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March 7

catgeory question

Special Categories

There appears to be a special way of formatting catagories that I am not familiar with. Two examples are Cornell University and Duke. At the bottom of their pages they have categories with university logos appearing above the category. In the code these appear as {{Cornell}} and {{Dukeschools}} respectively. Do you know how I can do this?24.131.239.43 05:54, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

THose are templates which have the categories included in them, so every article tagged with that template is automatically placed in that category. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:42, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

generating random text from source code

Is it possible to have the mediawiki software display a different inputted text from a list every time the html page is visited. For example, if the options were: hello, how are you today?, look over there etc, it would randomly chose one of these and display it, sort of like a template tag. Thanks! Think outside the box 10:29, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You should only use it in userspace, but yes, it is possible to generate a more-or-less random message (depending on things like the current time); see {{User:Misza13/Random}} for an example of how to generate random numbers, and m:ParserFunctions for how to use them to change between messages. The message will change on every page edit or purge, rather than on every view; this helps to reduce server load because it means that the page can be cache. --ais523 10:39, 7 March 2007 (U T C)

Joyce Hatto page

Will an admin kindly sprotect this page for a week? There seems to be one or more users using anon., dynamic IPs and who are intent on making statements that possibly violate WP:BLP, among other issues. Several users and I have reached consensus on this thing, and collectively reverted edits a number of times in the past 48 hours, but since it's not clearly vandalism, im out of reverts. Please sprotect it and hopefully this will force users to discuss the points on the Talk page. Thank you. --Otheus 10:56, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Most users who answer Help Desk questions aren't admins. If you want a page to be protected, semiprotected, or unprotected, you can place a request at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection, which should bring your request to the attention of administrators. Hope that helps! --ais523 11:11, 7 March 2007 (U T C)

So moved. Thank you. --Otheus 11:25, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Interwiki Atomic Betty

How I can link article Atomic Betty in this (English) version of Wikipedia with the russian version created by me? It must displayed in

in other language

tabU is for Unity 11:13, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You need to write an interlanguage link. At the bottom of the article, write [[ru:Атомная Бетти]] (if there are other similar links there, try to add it approximately in alphabetical order). Likewise, you can link the article back the other way by adding [[en:Atomic Betty]] at the bottom of the Russian article. Hope that helps! --ais523 11:17, 7 March 2007 (U T C)

(I note that linking the Russian article to the English article has already been done.) --ais523 11:18, 7 March 2007 (U T C)

Picture not showing correctly

Hi, on the Girls' Brigade page there is a picture of Image:ariselogo.gif, however it does not appear to be displaying correctly... Any ideas why? Thanks, Asics talk ^{Editor review!} 11:49, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gif images can't handle shrinking very well. There simply wasn't enough space to show the lettering. I've increased the image size by a factor 2. It works now. - Mgm|^(talk) 12:13, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, am I right in thinking it would work better if it was a JPEG? I will try that! Asics talk ^{Editor review!} 12:18, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

PNG and SVG are even better, but JPG is certainly better to use than GIF. - Mgm|^(talk) 12:23, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Blanking warnings from User pages

I assume that this is frowned upon. Is there a specific template to use to ask people not to blank warnings from their talk page? Heliomance 12:55, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I believe there is but WP:TT doesn't appear to have it. Either way, it doesn't have to have a red sign to be an official warning, so I guess you can word your own as long as it isn't worded as a personal attack or something. x42bn6 Talk 14:02, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Look for the

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed maintenance templates from Wikipedia. When removing maintenance templates, please be sure to either resolve the problem that the template refers to, or give a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, as your removal of this template has been reverted. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. series on WP:TT. Remember, however, that the act of blanking shows that the person has read it, and it stays in the page history. Sometimes it is better to let it go and follow up only upon further vandalism. Xiner (talk, email) 14:29, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Let's be real clear here: users are fully allowed to remove warnings from their user talk pages. Do not tell them they are violating policy by doing so. Do not revert their deletions. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 02:17, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, okay then. I assumed it wasn't allowed as it makes it harder for vandalism fighters to see how many warnings they have and so what warning template is appropriate to place. If someone deletes a final warning message, the next person to come trying to warn them is going to place a warning instead of reporting them to AIV. Heliomance 12:54, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Search Box Items?

How can I delete the items which automatically appear in the search box when I type the first letter?? Ive tried MS Internet Explorer Tools and delete cookies/delete files/clear history but the search box still prompts previous searches when I type in the first letter. Paul7218 13:45, 7 March 2007 (UTC)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Paul7218 (talk • contribs) 13:40, 7 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

You are looking for AutoComplete. In Internet Explorer, go to Tools > Content > AutoComplete > Clear Forms. Or you can highlight the search box, bring up AutoComplete, highlight your mouse over the top entry and hold down delete, watching all the entries for that box whizz away. x42bn6 Talk 13:56, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The editing of material

Good morning,

I was looking for some information and discovered that someone had printed the words, "you suckkkkkkkkkk" after a sentence. I had never logged in before or edited but I noticed that there was an editing tool so I clicked on it and erased those two words. I didn't bother reading the rest as I was only looking for a picture. I'm sorry I don't even remember which article I was looking at so that you can examine it for yourself. My question is, how do you avoid something like this from happening if anybody can just go in and edit like I just did? I'm not even sure if it was saved but this example made me a little leary about trusting any information from this website. How do you control such a thing from happening again?… —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.208.200.17 (talk) 13:54, 7 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

It's not really possible to prevent vandalism (unless we checked everyone and had some legal binding to users, and even then, that wouldn't stop all vandalism). Wikipedia is always subject to vandalism. We have a round-the-clock counter-vandalism unit that specialises in these things, several bots detecting the most obvious of vandalism, and users who patrol pages on their Watchlists for vandalism. By the way, thanks for removing vandalism. x42bn6 Talk 13:59, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the help. You may wish to read WP:REVERT for more info about reverting edits. Instead of manually erasing vandalism, it is preferable to click the "history" tab on the top of the page and find the last clean version of the page. Xiner (talk, email) 14:27, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia works because pretty much anyone can correct content, as well as vandalise it. Although some people don't have much respect for the content, many more people contribute useful changes (sometimes just typo fixes or removing vandalism like you did, sometimes more major). And yes, you should be wary about consulting Wikipedia or any other reference source for information. It's normally a wiser idea to consult the sources given in an article to check that it's correct rather than take the information at face value, due to the fluidity of the articles, although Wikipedia is usually correct. See Wikipedia:About for more information. --ais523 14:31, 7 March 2007 (U T C)

Popups

I've been using popups to revert vandalism lately, and its great, but for some reason the change subject always has the $1 $2 and $3 in there, I'm not sure what this is all about. Check my contributions to see the problem Special:Contributions/Inseeisyou

Those are parameters/variables that should be filled in by the script that you're running. As to fixing it, that depends on what tool you're using. You'd probably get the fastest and most accurate answer by posting on the talk page for that tool, rather than here. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 02:14, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Using Talk to contact other editors

I am new to Wikipedia, and can someone please give me a VERY basic, idiot's guide to how to use the Talk facility to send and receive messages to/from other editors.

Clmckelvie 16:44, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To send user messages relating to wikipedia to fellow editors then click the + when on the User talk page, type a header and your comment and type an edit summary then click Save Page. To receive messages from other users then they will leave a comment on your talk page (User Talk:Clmckelvie) and a rectangular orange bar will appear informing you of these messages, when you click on it, it will automatically take you to your talk page so you can read the comments. Tellyaddict 16:49, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also have a look at Help:Talk page. Cheers Lethaniol 16:50, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note: The "talk" is not an IM or online chat tool. It is just a page set aside for talking about articles on Wikipedia. --Kainaw ^(talk) 17:59, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Tutorial has a good section on talk page editing, too. --ais523 18:35, 8 March 2007 (U T C)

Problems with a WikiTable

I have created this table on my sandbox. No matter what I have tried in the table's coding, I cannot get the year 1883 to move to the next row for its proper placing. The year 1882 requires a rowspan of 4 in order to permit multiple names on the year. Could you take a look at the table and give me a suggestion on how to correct the problem? Thanks. Mphamilton 17:37, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please see my notes above your table on that page. --Kainaw ^(talk) 17:58, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Here's the issue, though. Both James French Patton need to be placed in Seat 3 for the year 1882. That is why I had originally expanded the year 1882 to rowspan=4. It was required in order to place both names within the same year at the same seat. I have reverted user:mphamilton/Sandbox if you have any further suggestions. Thank you again. Mphamilton 18:11, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You can put a table within a table - that is, a cell can consist of a table with two rows, if you want. This is called a "nested table" - see Help:Table for details. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 00:23, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New Account

I have aol and I have tried to use your and creat a new account the screen says a new password is e-mailed to to your e-mail address i checked and there isn't any new password there. Should I be more patient? Thank You, stargazer [email address removed - JB] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.244.30.101 (talk) 17:30, 7 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

If (a) you've lost the original password, and (b) you're not getting a new password via your request for an email, then it would appear that you've also put in the wrong email address, and the best thing in those circumstances is simply to create a new account.

To answer your question: - the email to you should be very quick; you might submit a request a second time if you don't get an email within a day after your first request), just in case it somehow got lost. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 00:20, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mistake in an article which has identified source

It's probably minor, but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bob_and_Sheri_Show has one, maybe two errors, and the source of the part of the article where the error(s) is (are) has a link to a source. But the source is wrong. I found the newspaper article that shows what one of the two errors is. I haven't had any luck with the other error because I'm not at a library where I can see the article for free. And, unfortunately, that means neither can you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vchimpanzee (talk • contribs) 18:03, 7 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

If you can reasonably be confident of the veracity of your source in preference to the existing source (and it sounds like you can), then feel free to edit the statement and re-source accordingly. You may like to add a comment on the article's talk page about the other error, requesting some input and/or research from other editors. Adrian M. H. 21:22, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tables not being sorted

For some reason the tables in WP no longer seem to obey the instruction class="wikitable sortable". Is this a known problem? JavaScript is not disabled on my system. -- NigelG (or Ndsg) | Talk 18:10, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It must be something to do with my WP Preferences, because the problem disappears when I log out. I don't remember changing anything in the Prefs, however: any suggestions? -- NigelG (or Ndsg) | Talk 21:56, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps it would help if I rephrased the question. What would I need to do (or have done) to disable the "sortable" property on my computer? -- NigelG (or Ndsg) | Talk 10:49, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not quite sure what could cause that. Maybe your browser cache has got confused; try bypassing your cache while logged-in. If that doesn't work, posting on the technical village pump may find someone who knows the answer. --ais523 18:38, 8 March 2007 (U T C)

Deleted pages

Is there any way for ordinary editors to access the (former) content of deleted pages, external caches (IA, Google) aside? Many deleted pages are well-written and useful for other places (even if Wikipedia does not accept them); can they be retrieved? --Shay Guy 18:12, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Wikipedia:Undeletion_policy. An admin will do it for you. Xiner (talk, email) 18:14, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

hi

can someone tell me what to do?

That depends. What sort of thing do you want to do? (To reply to this message click the Edit link next to "hi", and type your response at the end, then click Save Page. Notinasnaid 19:38, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Page a reasonable candidate for deletion?

What is the criteria for determining whether or not an article's subject is non-notable and, therefore, possibly open for deletion? I came across an article just recently created called socialbutter, and it doesn't seem like a webpage that is popular. I've checked Alexa and socialbutter's numbers don't seem that significant compared to other Wikipedia featured sites, but I don't know for certain if that qualifies the site as being non-notable or not. Any help is appreciated. --PoeticX 18:55, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WP:WEB is the guideline you're looking for. —Dark•Shikari^[T] 19:20, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the help. --PoeticX 19:50, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The site is a mere 2 days old. Not old enough to write a reasonable article about it, and indeed a lack of visitors or news coverage. Adding an entry 2 days after its creation appears more an attempt at advertising than anything else. I think a website needs to be at least 3 months old probably more to be included based on WP:WEB criteria, but that's just my opinion. - Mgm|^(talk) 20:34, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How to edit/upload images/logos

Hello -

I noticed on the Aprilaire/Research Products page that the logo is an outdated one and that the current image is off a product that we are ceasing the model number (Humidifier 550). I have edited text/content with relative ease but cannot figure out an easy way to update the image and logo.

Thanks,

66.222.125.34 19:17, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please see WP:COI and WP:IMAGE. Thanks. Xiner (talk, email) 19:39, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Blue dotted line

what does the blue dotted line mean

On which page? x42bn6 Talk 20:50, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Are you referring to the dashed blue line that makes a box around some text, such as at the top of this page? That is just a stylistic device, and has no meaning per se. Adrian M. H. 21:28, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Or if you're referring to text like this:

The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.

It's because the enclosed text has the <pre> element around it in the wiki syntax to make it preformatted. —Mitaphane _?|! 01:35, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Plagiarism???

I found a lot of similarities between the introduction on the wikipedia page for grappling and the FILA-Wrestling website.

Adding a citation and restoring the wording may upset many grappler advocates (see talk page for grappling) and I would prefer to get a second opinion prior to acting.

Where can I go to get this second opinion? Penciljunk 19:42, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Whenever I find evidence of plagiarism, I go ahead and edit the text into an original form, being careful to avoid changing its meaning. Such text can frequently be improved in the process. Then state your reason in the summary. Adrian M. H. 21:26, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the input. However, wouldn't it make more sense to cite the source and take the verbiage verbatim? Penciljunk 16:26, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Always be careful that it is the Wikipedia article that is plagiarism. It happens the other way around to. In this case, i think the website you mentioned is indeed the original. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:33, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the insight, I didn't think of that. Penciljunk 16:26, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why can't i edit text in a listing?

Hi, i am trying to edit the content of "Export Finance and Insurance Corporation" as the Minister listed is incorrect. When i click the edit link, the current text does not appear in the content editor so i am unable to change it? Am i doing something wrong? Thanks, Nikki —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Efic (talk • contribs) 23:04, 7 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

It was probably a server lag. Could you try again now? Xiner (talk, email) 00:11, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No i tried it again, it doesn't show the text in the listing, it just has the text below in the content editor? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Efic (talk • contribs)

Hmm, stumps me. Restart computer? Xiner (talk, email) 00:24, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The edit link only edits the section below. You probably want the Edit this page link at the top. Notinasnaid 08:04, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

March 8

Recruiting editors

I realize that recruiting editors to add weight to one's contributions violates policy. I want to recruit editors, but not for the purpose described above. I have found that Wikipedia is lacking in good articles about many of the significant figures in Pentecostal history. I propose to distribute materials to students at the Assemblies of God Theological Seminary suggesting names and topics related to pentecostalism that could be written about in Wikipedia. Before doing so, however, I want to be sure that such an idea does not violate any Wikipedia policies. Can you tell me if my idea is within Wikipedia guidelines?Will3935 00:27, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds like a cool class project, but I immediately began thinking about the less technically adept students. Editing on Wikipedia is more difficult than using Microsoft Word, which is hard enough for some. Perhaps a small assignment, concerning one or two paragraphs, would be a good trial run? Xiner (talk, email) 00:29, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Frankly I'm a little more concerned about the content quality of such articles than I am about the students' technical abilities. They all seem to be tech-savvy, but not all are great scholars (that's probably true at all seminaries). Perhaps I'll just recommend topics to certain students to do on their own if they like. It sounds like you don't think such a thing violates Wikipedia policy. Thanks for your prompt response!Will3935 01:27, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I see. Good idea. You can also ask your "less scholarly" students to create pages in their own user space and submit a link on the article's discussion page so that others can review their work and integrate any useful bits. Xiner (talk, email) 02:47, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rather than recruiting students to create new articles, a potentially dubious strategy if they are unfamiliar with the voluminous Wikipedia rules, I suggest finding such articles as do exist on topics they might know about, and try to direct the students to improve those articles. Getting one or two existing articles up to, say, good article status would be a tremendous achievement, and would be a good model for further article creation. You can request a peer review of an existing article, to find out what it needs. Wikipedia already has too many articles that aren't very good. By far the greatest need is to improve the existing articles. See what's out there in your topic of interest, and especially see if a WikiProject is active. Start with Pentecostalism; check the article's talk page: Talk:Pentecostalism. Aha, there is a Wikipedia:WikiProject Charismatic Christianity. I suggest you coordinate your efforts with theirs. The obvious advantage for seminary students is that they should have access to a decent library, for obtaining references. Everything in Wikipedia articles should cite its references. --Teratornis 04:23, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

When writing new articles, all that the students really need to remember is to cite sources and stick to the WP:NPOV policy. There are more rules but if you stick to those, you're unlikely to get into trouble. - Mgm|^(talk) 05:53, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Judging from the rate at which Wikipedia deletes articles, evidently it is not so simple for lots of users to follow those seemingly simple rules. Experienced people have a tendency, in every field, to forget how complex the learned skill was before they learned it. One advantage of trying to improve an existing article that has been around for a while without getting deleted already is that even unskilled attempts to improve it won't usually result in getting the whole article deleted. I'm just suggesting the lowest-risk strategy for the group of inexperienced student editors. Even well-sourced articles can get deleted if the sources themselves are not sufficiently notable, if the subjects are not sufficiently notable, if the sources are vanity press, and so on. There are probably some figures in a religious movement who wouldn't be notable outside the movement, and that might lead to problems. Wikipedia already has articles on most of the highly notable topics such as Jupiter, Microsoft, etc. The more articles Wikipedia has, the harder it gets to find new topics that can make the cut, and the more editing skill it takes to defend them. Back when Wikipedia did not yet have a Jupiter article, anybody could have started it, and nobody would question its notability even if it was full of unsourced statements. Obviously that article belongs in an encyclopedia, so people would fix it rather than delete it. The remaining topics to write about are increasingly marginal now. So it would be better to encourage more people to improve the existing articles, of which there are way too many (more than a million) that need improvement. --Teratornis 07:54, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, you have all been quite helpful.Will3935 11:57, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Different tab/window for an external link

what command should i used to an external link which when i click would open in a different tab or window? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.123.48.189 (talk) 01:09, 8 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

External links open uniformly on Wikipedia. Sorry.

and, is it possible for me to ask assistance to wiki users on creating a Bioinformatics e-learning course which will be uploaded on Wikipedia? Helps would include creating animation, graphic, photo, cartoon image. how could i ask help? thanks - From Enzo ereful —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.123.48.189 (talk) 01:19, 8 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Wikiversity would be what you're looking for. Xiner (talk, email) 01:25, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

On both Firefox and Internet Explorer, Ctrl+mouse click on a hyperlink will open that link in a new tabbed window. —Mitaphane _?|! 01:28, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just in case the reference to Wikipedia is not clear: Wikipedia's only aim is to be an encyclopedia, so there is nowhere in it to put an e-learning course. It sounds useful, I hope you will find a suitable home for it. Notinasnaid 08:02, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Diffrent tab/window for external link

On both Firefox and Internet Explorer, Ctrl+mouse click on a hyperlink will open that link in a new tabbed window. —Mitaphane ?|! 01:28, 8 March 2007 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk"

- thanks for this quick reply. But is there a specific command in wiki format to execute this? I mean, without pressing control key since my students, i assume, would be beginners.

The problem is there is no tab open command embedded with in a HTML <A> hyperlink element. That is a browser specific thing. There is a TARGET="_BLANK" attribute for <A> elements that will open new windows. Depending on whether your browser is set to have only one windowed instance, that would open a new tab. I suppose by messing around with the monobook.js file, you could have it rewrite external links to have a TARGET="_BLANK" attributes, but I'm not certain how to do that. —Mitaphane _?|! 01:58, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How to create an article

I have been trying for a couple of days now to create an article. But I just don't know where to click. I have referred the help page, but it just doesn't seem to help me a bit. It simply says something like "clicking on the CREATE PAGE, blah blah blah" But I couldn't find any CREATE PAGE in the whole of the site.Tell me, just how the hell can I create an article on a topic. And please try making it a bit more new user friendly. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vaphualization (talk • contribs) 05:25, 8 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

It's relatively easy, you can just type in your title of the article in the search box. If the article doesn't exist, there should be an option provided to create or edit a new page. Just edit the page and click save to create your article. Oh yeah, make sure your article meets Notability otherwise it may be deleted. Thanks. --- Hdt83 | Talk/Chat 05:32, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I believe new users have to wait 4 days from registration before they can make new articles; has it been that long for you? Anchoress 05:35, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Last time I checked that wasn't the case. Only moving articles had a wait built in. - Mgm|^(talk) 05:50, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry it is not more obvious how one can create an article. Before you get started, you might want to review some basic guidelines that are discussed at "Your first article." Also see "Articles for creation"; about half-way down the page is a big "Click here to start" button. Good luck!--Vbd (talk) 06:11, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Special:Logs

I have a few questions about the search functionality of the Special:Logs page. Left-most is a drop-down list where you get to select the type of log to search for. The next field is titled "User". In the case of, say, block logs, is this used to search for all blocks done by "User", or to "User"? And does "Title" only refer to article titles, or does it depend on what type of log is being searched for?

Also, if a user has been blocked and (a) the block has expired since; or (b) the user has since been unblocked - will the fact that the user was previously blocked, and for how long etc., still show up when searching, or will there only be results for users currently blocked?

Thank you. —Xhantar^Talk 05:42, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"User" is the user who did the action described in the log. In case of blocking the title field is name of the user being blocked prefixed by "User:". Special:Ipblocklist lists all current blocks, the Block log lists ALL blocks. - Mgm|^(talk) 05:49, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) The "User" field is the user who took the action. In the case of block logs, it's the user who blocked or unblocked another user. "Title" can refer to the title of an article in a move log or protection log, or it can refer to the user that was blocked or unblocked (when typed as "User:Foo") in a block log. About block logs: they will still be visible if the block is lifted or if it expires. Wodup 05:51, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

According to the blocked template placed on this one user's talk page here, the user is/was blocked, but when I search like this, I get "No matching items in log." Could it be that the blocked template was mistakenly placed on the user's talk page (unlikely), or am I missing something obvious (more likely)? —Xhantar^Talk 06:01, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Netsnipe (talk · contribs) appears to have handled the unblock request, perhaps he knows more. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:45, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It seems that the logs didn't move past the username change: [1]. Either that, or it was an autoblock. --ais523 09:28, 8 March 2007 (U T C)

Air hostess

university of cambridge validates air hostess academy for one year diploma in aviation and hospitality services . sir i want to know is there any degree course in aviation and hospitality services

Please direct this question to the reference desk. The help desk is for questions about Wikipedia itself. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:45, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Font change?

Just noticed that the font changed for me, all over wikipedia.. Text is much larger and possibly in a different font, anybody else having this? -Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 06:37, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not me. It may be your default font in your browser. You may want to check your font and text size. Wodup 06:52, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You probably have enlarged your text by accident... press Control + 0 to reset your font size to the default for this website. Spebi 07:00, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion process

I nominated a few articles for deletion in the course of my random wanderings this past week, but didn't keep a record of their titles. Is there some way to check if they were dealt with? I want to check if I'm doing it right. Clarityfiend 06:40, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I just looked at your contributions for about the past week. I looked into and found Neil Anderson-Himmelspach because of your edit summary. I found List of pairs of colleagues because you discussed it on this help page. Their PRODs haven't been contested yet. I don't know if there were any more (I'm not going to look at avery single edit for the past week). One way that you might be able to keep tabs on articles you nominate or propose for deletion is to use a descriptive edit summary such as Propose deletion - non-notable or Speedy delete CSD#G10. Another way (that should be in addition to, not instead of) is to keep the articles on your watchlist. Hope this helps. Wodup 07:04, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Technical question about renaming categories, etc.

Once a decision has been made via the Cfd process, I assume that a bot carries out the steps involved in changing a category's name. Is that correct? If so, how long does that process usually take? Here's why I ask:

A decision was made on March 7th to rename certain categories. One was Category:Faculty by university in the United States to Category:Faculty by university or college in the United States. From what I can tell, rather than renaming the category, someone simply created the new category and left the old category as is.[2] Is that simply a step in the process? Will the new category be populated by the contents of the old category when a bot gets around to it?

I am even more confused by the current status of the decision to rename Category:Alumni by university in the United States to Category:Alumni by university or college in the United States. The latter was created on March 7th and is well-populated, but the former still exists and it, too, is well-populated (with different schools). The latter now includes the former as one of its subcategories, which really defeats the purpose of the rename.

Please explain?! Thanks.--Vbd (talk) 10:22, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It might be a mistake. Not all categories are renamed by a bot. Sometimes it's done manually by administrators. It could be that one forgot to remove the old category when inserting the new one and also forgot to delete the old one. Also, since the decision was made just yesterday March 7, it could also be no one acted on it yet (which would explain why it's not fixed yet. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:16, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for your response. Someone has clearly acted in each instance; see here and here. But they either didn't finish what they were doing or they messed up. And from their user pages,[3],[4] it is not clear that they are even admins. How will this problem get fixed? A third category nominated at the same time was renamed by a bot, apparently without a hitch. Why were the other two done manually? Why aren't all renames done by bot?--Vbd (talk) 15:29, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - I've seen that name before - I believe Angus is an admin. In any case, have you asked the person? Xiner (talk, email) 19:51, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The work was probably in progress when you were looking. Categories that are in process of this type of activity can be found at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Working which is where the bot operators pick them up to make the necessary actions. Looking there now, I see that it has been logged as completed. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 22:45, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Latest Virtual classroom lesson needs proofreading

Number 5 on the list above just went active, but it still needs proofreading. It's a short lesson, so if you have a spare moment, please proofread/edit it. Thanks. The Transhumanist 10:53, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

displaying tags without them being active

How do I display, for example, the {{fact}} tag without it going live and linking off, so that it looks the same on the page as it does when editing? Think outside the box 11:12, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You can preview the page. Once the tag is saved onto the page, however, it's on there and active. Hersfold ^(talk/work) 11:31, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

By using <nowiki>{{fact}}</nowiki> which will produce {{fact}}. Any code between a <nowiki> and </nowiki> will not be enacted upon. Cheers Lethaniol 11:35, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Think outside the box 11:40, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to provide details about a tag as well, you can use {{tlx|the tag you want}} (that is, add 'tlx|' just after the opening {{); you get a link to the tag or other template you're describing (tlx in this case). --ais523 11:50, 8 March 2007 (U T C)

to know about Donna H. Groh, executive director of toastmasters international

Please give some information about the executive director Donna H. Groh of toastmasters interantional

All the information we have is at Toastmasters International. You may be able to find more by following the external links at the bottom of that article. --Cherry blossom tree 15:20, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Munsch

i'am in grade two at school and doing abook report on Robert Munsch and need some help the story is murmel and need to find out what type of story this is i have a hard time understanding to find out what it is.

If our article on Robert Munsch doesn't help then you can ask specific questions at the reference desk, or you could, maybe, read the book. --Cherry blossom tree 15:18, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

what are the required standard documents for a company

jaya —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.93.119.253 (talk) 13:51, 8 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

If you want an answer you'll have to be ask more specifically and do it at the reference desk --Cherry blossom tree 15:16, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Using parts of the wikipedia layout on another webpage

Hi!

I'm currently developing a drinks reciepe portal where the users can edit the reciepes themselves. Therefore I find the Wikipedia (or Mediawiki) design fitting to my purpose. The parts of the design that I'm thinking of implementing is the "Edit this page" tabs above the contents, and the navigation boxes to the left.

My question is how the licensing will be, and whether I'm allowed to do this? (I'm not sure if I placed my question in the right category. Please let me know if I didn't :))--83.94.178.171 15:09, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You can certainly either use our software (see www.mediawiki.org) or create your own implementation. There's a similar concept at b:Cookbook:Beverages. --Cherry blossom tree 15:14, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good. I have already made all the functionality, and ill like to use some of the CSS. What do I need to write on my page (and where) in order not to violate the mediawiki license? --83.94.178.171 15:18, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mediawiki is licenced under the GNU General Public License. I assume that this is also true of the CSS, but I'm not 100% sure. Try posting to the MediaWiki mailing list at mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org or using the IRC channel at irc://irc.freenode.net/mediawiki for more info. --Cherry blossom tree 15:58, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The current revision of the main CSS file for Monobook is here in the SVN repository; it's got all the copyright info at the top of the file in a comment. (Yes, it's GPL). --ais523 16:13, 8 March 2007 (U T C)

How To Remove the 'Content' List / TOC?

Dear All

When several ==headings== are added to a page, the 'Contents' / TOC module automatically appears at the top of the page. Is there a way to remove this, for a specific page only?

Thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 91.84.51.119 (talk) 16:00, 8 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Place __NOTOC__ anywhere on the page. Note that this is probably a bad idea in the article namespace, except in unusual circumstances, but it makes sense on some other pages. --ais523 16:05, 8 March 2007 (U T C)

Building Magazine article

I have put up an article to publish on Wikipedia, but as far as I can see it hasn't been declined. However, it also hasn't been published. This is the first time I've posted an article and I'm not sure what to do in order to get this published. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Alanhumca

Alanhumca 16:21, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There's a bit of a backlog at Wikipedia:Articles for Creation; not enough people are reviewing articles, and as a result it's often a while before they're accepted or rejected. As you have a username, you could try posting the article yourself (by clicking on this link: Building Magazine). Looking at your submission (Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation/2007-01-22#Building_Magazine), it seems reasonable, but the second source could do with being more specific (exactly where on that rather large website is the information you used?) I'd also suggest removing the ==section headings==, because they aren't really needed for the short sections. If you make it clearer why the magazine is notable, the article's less likely to be deleted as well. Hope that helps! --ais523 16:27, 8 March 2007 (U T C)

I've created the article (Building (magazine)) after editing it a bit. Could you define the term b2b magazine, please? Thanks. --Cherry blossom tree 16:31, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, you could always do a little bit of research on the magazine, or create the article yourself, which is possible. Try the article creating tutorial, thanks. Retiono Virginian 16:43, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

B2B = Business To Business i.e. the readers are businesses. Notinasnaid 17:21, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I've clarified the article. --Cherry blossom tree 20:52, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Extracting raw text data from Wikipedia

Hi! Is there an easy way to extract the complete collection of Wikipedia's English content as raw text data? In other words, no tags, no mark-up, no meta-data, just raw text. I understand I can download the content of Wikipedia as an XML file, but I'm not certain how to extract just the text information out of the XML file.

I'm a researcher in natural language processing and am looking to use Wikipedia as a corpus for some statistical NLP experiments.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

74.112.35.169 17:00, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think there's a raw-text database dump, but the raw text shouldn't be ridiculously hard to extract from the XML. (Just ignoring anything between <angle brackets> and anything that isn't an alphabetic character should do reasonably well, although you'll get the names of commonly-used templates like {{fact}} coming up more than they should do if you do that.) You might want to ask at WP:VPT for technical help. --ais523 17:08, 8 March 2007 (U T C)

WP:ACST might lead to similar studies; someone might mention their methods. If I were to tackle this problem from scratch, I would try to download (or get to) a local set of XHTML files for Wikipedia, and then I would spider through them with lynx, using the -dump option to spew out plain (markup-free) text. That is, get a dump from Wikipedia that you can browse as local XHTML files, and then there are several ways to extract the text content. Every search engine, for example, must be able to do that when it indexes pages. --Teratornis 18:00, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks ais523 and Teratornis for the responses. Unfortunately simply ignoring brackets from the XML dump does not work as there are various other meta-data (such as templates). I'll try the idea of extracting from XHTML as well as look into WP:ACST. Thanks again! 74.112.35.169 05:25, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

hmmm...

Based just on the google results I'm inclined to believe that Shirley Kaufer is the hoax, except that Welle4 (talk · contribs) who created the article has a couple dozen other edits which would need to be examined as well, whereas the article on Helen K. Garber was written by helenkgarber (talk · contribs) which brings up other issues--VectorPotential^Talk 17:21, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've flagged Shirley Kaufer for speedy delete under CSD-G1. The Helen K. Garber article will require some close inspection to make sure that everything is sourced and NPOV, since most of it was written by the subject. --Maelwys 19:43, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I started looking through Welle's contributions, and this wasn't the only time that he copy-paste an article, changed a few names, and called it a new person. This could take some cleanup... --Maelwys 20:15, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm also highly suspicious of Inflationary universe theory (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), given Welle's history of copying content from other articles I suspect that this content may have been taken from a much older revision of ~~Cosmic Inflation~~ Bingo, exact copy of Flatness problem--VectorPotential^Talk 21:03, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is nothing new, this sort of vandalism has been performed before. Helen K. Garber posted here a few days ago complaining about the current state of the entry we have on her. It has issues, but I'm positive Kaufer is the hoax. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:00, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Faking new articles by copying old ones and making a few changes is an act of vandalism and not acceptable. I've posted a little sterner warning. Is there a way we can have a bot check for this? - Mgm|^(talk) 22:10, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

referre report for medical student

content for referee report for admission in maters of physiotherapy in a australian university —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.145.128.5 (talk) 17:36, 8 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

I'm happy to hear that you are content. Do you have a question for us? Notinasnaid 21:10, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think Notinasnaid may have put the emphasis on the wrong syllable in the word "content." Assuming that you are looking for con-tent, you might want to check with the reference desk.--Vbd (talk) 03:05, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Text/Input boxes

Is there a way to insert Text/Input boxes into pages? Ajl772 17:57, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Only in some specific cases. You can do this:

or this:

but the general case is impossible. (See 'edit' for this section to see how I've done this, or m:Help:Inputbox for full information about the syntax.) --ais523 18:11, 8 March 2007 (U T C)

Popups

My popups script isn't filling in the $1, $2, and $3 symbols in the automatic edit summary. Would someone please tell me how to fix this. Thank you tons, Scottydude 17:57, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've just tested mine and it seems to work OK. This isn't covered in WP:POPFAQ so you might want to try asking at Wikipedia talk:Tools/Navigation popups and someone should be able to help you there. mattbr³⁰ 18:19, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You are using the latest version of User:Lupin's stuff, which some people are having problems with. From User:Scottydude/monobook.js (which is read-only for everybody but you)

   // User:Lupin/popups.js
   importScript('User:Lupin/popups.js');

Please check User talk:Lupin and look for the several discussion sections there. (Maybe search for '$2', the the section titles are pretty easy to spot,like Getting "revision $1 dated $2 by $3") There are a couple of workarounds, one of which I'm using and works (for now :-)

   // Try to use the fix mentioned at User_talk:Lupin
   // User:Lupin/popups.js
   document.write('<script type="text/javascript" src="' 
            + 'http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Lupin/popups.js&oldid=88729935' 
            + '&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s"></script>');

But see the discussions about trying to clear browser caches, etc., first before using extraordinary measures. Shenme 18:34, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks everybody, I'll look into it... Scottydude 03:50, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

open link in new window option

Is there an "Open Link in New Window" option that we can use, or do we have to right-click and choose it on the popup menu?

Ajl772 18:05, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Based on that comment, you seem to be using Internet Explorer; either that or shift-clicking are your best options. Internet Explorer 7 and FireFox both support tabbed browsing; in FireFox at least, you can open a link in a new tab (a similar effect to opening it in a new window) by middle-clicking on it. Hope that helps! --ais523 18:07, 8 March 2007 (U T C)

I actually was wondering about using something along the lines of java script or the like... Ajl772 17:45, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How do i actually MAKE the article? I see alot on the format, but nothing on where to go or what to do to intiate it.

Dear Wikipedia,

I just became a new member and the reason why is so that I could post an article about a scientific theory called the APD Theory. I can't, however, actually figure out HOW to make the article. Yea, I can see article and article after one another of what I should do when making an article, or how to make one, but NOTHING has yet shown me where I need to go to actually initiate making the article. I don't see an edit page, I don't see anything that I can type in, I don't see a save page, and I simply do not see any way of actually creating the article, just the format of which is should be created. Any help please? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Psinetic (talk • contribs) 18:14, 8 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

The most straightforward way, for a new user, is to go to Help:Starting a new page, type the page title into the box provided, and start writing. More experienced users might just type the name of the article they want into the URL bar of their browser, to go there directly - for example, if it says "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk" in your browser at the moment, you can just delete the "Wikipedia:Help desk" part and insert whatever you want. --Kwekubo 18:23, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ironically (and coincidentally), I just posted a create-an-article box three questions above... but probably the best way is to introduce a [[link]] to it in another article, and then click on that link. --ais523 18:30, 8 March 2007 (U T C)

Another simple way is to edit the address bar. just enter the name of the article you want to create at the end of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/. If the article does not exist it will provide you with the link to create it and some other options. -- Myth (Talk) 07:04, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I actually think that the easiest way is to type the article's name into the search box on the left of the page, and click Go. This will then take you to the article, and it should either present you with the article, or provide a link to search for the topic or create the article. Stwalkerster 15:04, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Long URLs

Hello all!

When you paste a long URL in the edit box, a horizontal scroll bar appears for the box. This makes editing harder, specially on wikis for right-to-left languages, like Hebrew or Farsi wikipedias. Is there a way to avoid this?

As far as I know one cannot break the URL to two lines (correct me if I'm wrong) and we are not allowed to post shortified links (for example those going to tinyurl.com or similar web sites. So I'm really unable to find a way arround this.

Please share your experience. huji—TALK 18:47, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Which browser does this? It doesn't happen for me on Internet Explorer 6. --ais523 18:48, 8 March 2007 (U T C)

Doesn't it? He's referring to the scrollbar at the bottom of the text field that appears when a long, unbroken URL/word/etc. is inputted (so long that it doesn't wrap around). -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 18:51, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm on firefox. I paste a fake url here for you, it makes a horizontal scroll bar to appear for me, see if it is the same for you:

Example link

huji—TALK 18:53, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No scrollbar for me; the line breaks, for the edit screen only, just after the question mark. Anyway, one possible solution would be to use commented-out line breaks, like this: Example link, which shouldn't make a difference to the URL. (By the way, use example.com for examples, as the domain name is reserved for that purpose; visiting example.com itself just gives a link to the explanation why it's reserved.) On the other hand, the horizontal scrollbar behaviour is probably a good thing as long as it affects only that line, because it saves worry about whether a linebreak is real or not. --ais523 18:57, 8 March 2007 (U T C)

All right. I updated the link I posted above, and voila!!

And I know the scrollbar is a good thing, but there are times we have to avoid it! ;)

And finally, please accept my many thanks for the wise answer. I have to pass it along to many people who are annoyed of that scrollbar thing! huji—TALK 19:11, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

PDF files converted into searchable files on the Wiki

Is there an easy way to convert a PDF file into the wiki searchable format?

209.97.228.10 20:19, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean by the wiki searchable format? Do you want to write a Wikipedia article, or something else? Notinasnaid 20:21, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What I mean by that is to be able to break down a file to be able to search it as if you were searching a page created on the wiki itself. 209.97.228.10 21:26, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think so. PDF's are more like an image than they are text. I don't think they can be converted. You might have better luck on WP:VP/T Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 22:03, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a file type that can be searched on wiki when uploaded? (If I was to upload it as a file) Would this most likely have to be done manually or copied? 209.97.228.10 22:12, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Google search can index PDF files for searching, when Google finds such files on the Web. If you upload a PDF file to a (public) wiki, and it is at such a URL that Google can index it (I have no idea whether Google could "reach into" the wiki to index PDF files uploaded to the wiki, but that would be easy to test if we know some examples), then Google would let you search into text content of the PDF file. See Help:Searching#Search engines for tips on using external search engines to augment the rather modest built-in search feature in MediaWiki. What wiki are you talking about? --Teratornis 22:24, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Getting away from the PDFs what is the easiest way to take a document and make it searchable on a wiki without having to manually do it? (i.e. saving it as a certain file) The thing with this is the document going up is going to change quite a bit. If I just put it up as a PDF then it is harder to search through. If I do it manually then that is a lot of work that has to be changed. (Let me know if this makes sense.)

Let me just try and understand one thing: you say "a wiki". By this do you mean a different wiki, that you are running or using; or do you mean Wikipedia? The reason to ask particularly is that you can't put a PDF up on Wikipedia. Notinasnaid 22:58, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is a separate wiki that I am using.

Ok, it's going to depend on the specific wiki software you use, but as a general rule I'd expect most Wiki software would only index articles entered into the wiki database, not additional files, text or otherwise. However, if you are using a wiki that allows PDF files, you might find that the software authors have handled this. Also, as noted, don't overlook Google. Google is a much better tool for searching Wikipedia articles than Wikipedia's own search engine, and you might like to consider this point for your own wiki.

By the way, there is nothing inherently unsearchable about PDF files. Some of them contain only scanned pages, and little software can do the necessary work to search them. But most PDF files contain real text, and a good general purpose search engine will search them. (Yes, the code has to be written specifically for PDF files). A wiki may not, however, contain a general purpose search engine. Notinasnaid 23:06, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For Google to search a wiki, it has to be a public wiki, that is, visible on the Web to Google. Many corporate wikis live behind company firewalls and are not visible to Google, and thus not searchable by Google. Some companies install their own internal search software such as ht://dig. You may be able to upload your PDF files to Google Base.

Existing files in various formats are a problem for wikis, since most if not all wikis use their own idiosyncractic wikitext markup languages which are incompatible with everything else (and not even standard among wiki software packages). For wikis to find truly broad use in business, they must come with fluent document conversion software allowing users to easily convert documents to and from wiki formats and all the common business formats, preserving as much markup and formatting as possible. See WP:TOOLS for a small start toward this. The whole world is probably not going to manually copy, paste, and edit all the Word documents and everything else to put them on wikis (although a market might someday emerge for outsourcing this grunt work of wikifying existing business content). On a large public wiki such as Wikipedia, there is less need for such compatibility, because Wikipedia is not attempting to fit itself into an existing community of users (such as a corporation) who have large volumes of information in other formats. --Teratornis 00:41, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If we're talking about corporate Wikis, where there is often a significant budget for goodies, it may be worth mentioning that you can buy your own Google appliance and use it on your intranet. This (or other spidering systems which come in less shiny packages) has the virtue that it can index across the whole intranet without needing to install software on any of the servers, and may be the only way to cut the gordian knot of inter-departmental turf wars and unify searching of the intranet. It also has the virtue that it may even be simple enough to explain to the people who manage budgets. Notinasnaid 09:15, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong informations

Thanks for such a good website where we can find all the informations we need. I cheers you for this great success,but there some mistakes you've done. First of all,your website has a link which is KURDISTAN. What i'm excited about and what is wrong is there is no such a country. There is NO KURDISTAN. This is the idea and dream of some terrorists which has killed my citizens and still killing. So, you are making their aim much easier. What you have done is wrong and illegal. Because of your this error people think there is a country like this and what the terrorist want is this. Please correct this mistake. This is really a sensitive subject for many people who are the families of martyred people. Kerem Yücelten from Turkey

We don't call Kurdistan a country, rather a "geographic and cultural region", which seems reasonable to me. If you have any issues then you can raise them at Talk:Kurdistan. --Cherry blossom tree 20:51, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

IPA font

Hello. When I look at Wikipedia articles, most of the text is easy to read, in a nice-size Arial font. But IPA pronunciations are not so clear. They show up in a very light serif font, and some of the strokes are so thin that they disappear. Is there any way to change the way IPA text is displayed? (I realize I asked this same question on the Help Desk before, but it was about nine months ago and there was never a response. I'm hoping maybe new people are looking at this now that didn't see the archives.) — Michael J 20:59, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry to hear about your question not being answered, we receiv many questions here and occasionally we do lose track of one or two. Do you mean then pronounciaton for a place when it is different font style and some letters are bakcwards. As far as I know there is no way to change this, however their could be but as far as I'm aware there isn't. However I could be wrong so keep checking back here within the next 24 hours and another editor may know how to or beable to give you further advice. Regards - Tellyaddict 21:07, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe if I show you a little screen-shot of what I see (from the article on Hawaii):

As you see, the IPAs are hard to read on my screen. — Michael J 21:39, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think you might get a good answer at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing so I've crossposted there. — coel acan — 03:48, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Updating Athletics/Track & Field Tables

I have tried to update two Athletics tables with times run by two different athletes. The statistics appear as I have typed them, but there is now a problem with the tables not lining up correctly. (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/world_records_in_athletics#Men and look at the "Indoor World Records" for "Men" and specifically the problem for how the 3,000 meter record is now stuck over in the right hand column of its own instead of appearing in the regular column with the other records) (see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marathon_world_best_progression and look under "Women" to see how Grete Waitz's time in London now sticks out on the right hand side of the page)

Could you correct the column problems for me and/or tell me how to avoid this problem in the future? I carefully typed everything just like all the other entries but somehow created column problems in doing so. Thank you.

Well, I fixed the problems. All I did was replace the dashes in the row breaks (|-) in the problem rows. Why that made any difference though I'm not sure. I believe there are 2 different types of dashes, maybe you used the wrong one in a couple places? Someone else could probably explain it better. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 21:17, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

Subcategories

How do you make a page a sub category? I've read all the category help, but I still don't understand. to make roses a sub category of flowers, you just put [ category:flowers] [ category:roses] ? Bouncingmolar 21:59, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think you mean putting a page into a subcategory? You would just use [[Category:Roses]]. However, the actual category hierarchy is Plants -> Angiosperms -> Eudicots -> Rosids -> Rosales -> Rosaceae -> Roses. If you want to make a subcategory, you simply start the "article" Category:xxyyzz where xxyyzz is your category you wish to create. You then put [[Category:Flowers]] to this new category. x42bn6 Talk 22:04, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify further, perhaps ... Let's say you want to create a new sub-category of Category:Dogs that you want to call Category:Dogs in TV and film (after checking to make sure that a similar sub-cat doesn't already exist). You will start populating this sub-cat with articles about "Lassie" and "Rin Tin Tin." One way to do this is to add the new category name to each of these articles. It will show up in red, as it does here. Click on it and enter the main category -- [[Category:Dogs]] -- on the edit page. The new sub-cat should then show up on the main cat page. Does that make sense?--Vbd (talk) 02:49, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

aha! that makes complete sense. the bit i missed what that you have to add the main category to the sub category page. CHeers. Bouncingmolar 07:25, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple AfD's

Is there an easy way to nominate multiple articles for deletion on the same page? Not just 5 or 6, a lot. Can I nominate all the articles in a category for deletion at once? Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 22:51, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion#How to list multiple related pages for deletion, unless of course you meant easier than that. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 23:29, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Creating new page

Hello -- this is Joshua Shapiro

I have heard about Wikipedia and visited before but I didn't realize that we could be active participants to help create it and add things

is there a manual that explains how Wikipedia works

like for example I visited Strat-o-matic which is a baseball game I play and I wanted to add our web pages for readers but then I saw that you use code a bit different then html

so I figured it might be easier if you have a guide I could read how everything works

and we are free to add other things ourself?

is there any rules about things of a commercial nature -- do you first read the editions before they go live

whoever invented this did a great service for the planet -- its amazing

Joshua Shapiro The Skokie Wolfman (for Strat-o-matic) A Crystal Skull Explorer

Note: I added a welcome template to the user's talk page. Xiner (talk, email) 23:49, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:COI, WP:RS and WP:N to determine what can be written about. You can't just add an article about anything - it needs reliable sources and a measure of notability. -Wo o ty Woot? contribs 00:04, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome! For a simple introduction, take a look at "Your first article." It has some other useful links for getting started and understanding the basic guidelines for contributing to Wikipedia.--Vbd (talk) 02:28, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is the most famous wiki, but it is actually a very specialized wiki (an encyclopedia). See WP:NOT. However, there may be another wiki which would welcome your content even if Wikipedia does not. Search WikiIndex for "games". Maybe: Encyclopedia Gamia. Many of these special-interest wikis are begging for more content, unlike Wikipedia, which deletes enough content to fill many small wikis. --Teratornis 20:40, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

SEARCH TERM IS BEING REDIRECTED TO WRONG SEARCH TITLE AND LIMITING INFORMATION

Dear Wikipedia Help Adminstrators,

Would you tell me how I can correct an error on a wikipedia main search term? When I type in a certain search term..eg. The name of an illness, it links to and brings up a subject matter which is only a small fraction of the Meta term I am searching for.

Hypothetical Examples: On searching the term BLOOD, PLASMA appears as the MAIN subject matter title.

This would be an error and a limitation of the concept [description]of what BLOOD is. WHEN THE TERM PLASMA IS SEARCHED FOR, THEN MOSTLY PLASMA SHOULD BE FIRST DESCRIBED ETC. WHEN 'BLOOD' IS SEARCHED FOR, MAIN SUBJECT MATTER SHOULD BE THE BIG PICTURE OF WHAT BLOOD IS.

Another example: You search for "hand" and what this brings up is "NAIL" and everything only about "Nail" but nothing about every thing else that the hand is.

SO MY QUESTION IS: HOW DO I DELINK THIS META TERM FROM THE SUBJECT MATTER IT IS BRINGING UP? [because the subject matter is limiting the meta term considerably and grossly preventing the true nature/concept of the meta term to be revealed]

Thanks,

Janya ((helpme))—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Loveyoumissyou (talk • contribs) 23:50, 8 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Don't hit "search", hit "go". -Wo o ty Woot? contribs 00:03, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What I think you are experiencing is the effect of a redirect. What this means is that there is no present article for the term you are trying to access, and someone in the past created it as an alternate name for the other topic. There's a great solution for this. Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that anyone can edit. If you'd like to create the article on the term, type it into the search field, click go, when you get to the redirected article, you should see at the top "redirected from (your search term)". Click on the term and you will see the redirect page itself. Now click edit and create the article. You might find it useful to take a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial first.--Fuhghettaboutit 00:13, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

March 9

Inserting Images?

Ok, this should be simple to answer, even though I should know where to find it. Anyways, could someone please give me the link to the page that tells me how to take a picture from Wikipedia Commons and put it on another wiki site? It'd be very helpful if you could help.--Fruit Boy 00:03, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Fruit Boy. I'm not sure where the instructions are, but just take the file name on commons and use it normally here on wikipedia as though it were already on wikipedia. The software will handle the "transfer" automatically. If there is already an image here on wikipedia with the exact same name as the image on commons, then there's a conflict, and I'm not sure which image "wins". Let me know if you are having this problem and I'll look into it further. Hope that helps, — coel acan — 02:06, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Try the section "Embedding Commons’ media in Wikimedia projects" for some guidance. Good luck!--Vbd (talk) 02:10, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Searching for images

Hi!

There is an image [[Image:Crossroads baker explosion.jpg]] (Cool! You know what happens when I don't "nowiki" that? :-) and I'm trying to find other images tagged "Crossroads". But when I search for "Crossroads" in the "Special:Allpages" "Image:" namespace or google "site:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image: Crossroads", I find other images but not this one.

What other images aren't they letting me see and why aren't they letting me see them??? :-)

Thanks. --Saintrain 00:21, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Saintrain! You're not finding the image because it's not on Wikipedia. It's actually on Wikimedia Commons, right over here. The general URL for commons is commons.wikimedia.org, and the purpose of Commons is to share images and other files easily across the many language Wikipedias (and other projects like Wikispecies). So if you go over to Commons and search, you'll find this image and hopefully other related images. There's a new search engine over there called Mayflower, by the way, it's more powerful and better at finding what you need. Hope that helps, — coel acan — 02:12, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Coelacan: Thanks for the quick response. Found it and bookmarked it. Nice interface, too. Thanks, Saintrain 05:38, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to link to an image without displaying it, put a colon before the word "image" in the link, resulting in a link like this: Image:Crossroads baker explosion.jpg --Teratornis 18:20, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

page diff syntax

[[5] is confusing to me. It seems like the page is almost being blanked looking at the diff, but everything is still there. What is going on? TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 00:48, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You may need to try scrolling across. For some reason, this diff was very wide on my screen. I can see that there is an edit on line 44. Good luck!--Vbd (talk) 01:58, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(Edit conflict) Hi Tony. It's really weird. Somehow, a copy of the entire article had been inserted inside the infobox template. You can see that by clicking "edit" here. Another editor came along and deleted the copy that was inside the infobox,[6] making the diff look like the whole article was being deleted, but leaving behind the copy that was outside the infobox. — coel acan — 02:00, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

MILITARY PAST INENTIONS DUCKSFEET

I'M LOOKING FOR INFORMATION AND POSSIBLE IMAGES ABOUT A THING CALLED DUCKSFEET USED ON TANK TREADS IN THE SECOND WORLD WAR.

First, please turn off your caps lock, that makes things very difficult to read. Thank you.

Next, the Help Desk is for questions about how to use Wikipedia. Your question would be best directed at the reference desk.

Finally, please sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~). Thanks. Hersfold ^(talk/work) 01:39, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

author

who is the author of this site and do you have valid credentials to present this info.do you have affiliations that might create a built in bios toward the information? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.2.14.53 (talk) 01:45, 9 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Hi! Wikipedia is a collaborative encyclopedia that anyone can edit. That means that you can, as well. The site was founded by Jimmy Wales and Larry Sanger, but they are not the primary authors of any pages on the site. There are over three million registered user accounts (see Special:Statistics) although most of those are not very active. Ideally, everyone's biases cancel each other out. That might not be true in every case, but I don't know a whole lot about the demographics of Wikipedia so I can't tell you what the systemic biases might be. You can assume that Wikipedia has a general bias toward the things that people who can afford Internet access might care about; beyond that, I'm not sure. If you're interested in helping out, see Wikipedia:Introduction to get started. — coel acan — 01:54, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Since Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, there's not much need for credentials. We only repeat already published information by other sources. If you want to know if an article is reliable, you should check its references. Mgm|^(talk) 05:46, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

capitalization workaround?

I would like to create the page ReelTime.com. But, it keeps coming up as Reeltime.com. I realize there are some rules in place to aid case-sensitive searches, but is there anyway around this? I figure there is, because, for example, the CinemaNow page uses a second capitalized letter in the title. I just can't find the info unfortunately. Any help would be appreciated.

Zosopedia 04:32, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Click on this link: ReelTime.com or ReelTime if you think that's a better title. *Mishatx*-In\Out 04:44, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reeltime.com is a redirect to ReelTime.com. Perhaps that adds to the confusion. Read Help:Redirect to learn how redirects work, if you have not already. --Teratornis 18:30, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is now, since Zosopedia set up the redirect after creating ReelTime.com *Mishatx*-In\Out 00:49, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Uploading SVG images...

I recently uploaded an SVG image Image:Pressure plot.svg. However it is not showing up properly on my browser. It works fine if I open it with an SVG editor (Inkscape, for example). Is that a problem with my browser (I tried using Firefox 2 and IE 7) ? Here is the PNG version Image:Pressure plot.png of the same image. -- Myth (Talk) 07:15, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What is the problem? Is it distorted or not showing at all? Transparency not showing? --TV-VCR watch 07:54, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I can see the problem in my browser (firefox). For anybody that can't see a problem then the problem I have is that none of the labels show up in Firefox. However, they do show up in Inkscape. I have seen this before and managed to fix it (more by luck than judgement). The way I did it before was to edit the XML in Inkscape. If you find the text labels then there is sometimes a node just before which seems to contain a rectangle. I assume the browser gets confused and draws the text and then a rectangle on top. Last time I had this I deleted the rectangles and the problem went away. However, I tried that here and it didn't work. My best guess is that something else is also being draw on top of the labels but I'm not sure what. I don't know anything about SVG (I just make educated guess on ways to try and fix something) so I'm not sure I can help much further. --MarkS (talk) 14:25, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I do not have much knowledge of SVG or XML format. This is the first time I have tried to upload a SVG image. On my browser I am not able to see the text and the arrow heads for the axes. I have noticed the same problem on IE 6 / 7. btw I am able to see other SVG images (those uploaded by other people). So could it be a problem with the editor (Inkscape) I am using to edit these images. -- Myth (Talk) 20:04, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki code help

User:TV-VCR

I am already very good with the code, but I've ran into a problem. As you can see on the user page, The second row ("bio", "admin", "contrib", "programme"), is split in the middle. I've tried several things but it results in causing a box to go below one of the others. Can a kind editor make it to where there is no opening there and the disclaimer below it touches the four boxes above? Thank you. --TV-VCR watch 07:52, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you want 4 boxes to span the entire screen they should add up to 100%. I've edited it so the break is gone, but I'm currently using a pretty high-res screen. If it didn't work, please post to my talk page and I'll check again when I'm on another computer. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:24, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I can't talk on your talk page because it is semi-protected! But this is what I get:

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/9938/83496532683dt6.jpg --TV-VCR watch 09:24, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected? Wonder why no one told me. I'll look into that. In the mean time: what is the pixel-width of your desktop and what version of firefox do you use? - Mgm|^(talk) 09:36, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
According to the logs, my talk page is not protected at all and I haven't seen any change since an IP last posted there. What message are you getting? Perhaps you can post a screenshot of that too? - Mgm|^(talk) 09:38, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am a new user, perhaps that is why. My resolution is 1280x960, ans my firefox is latest (2. something...) --TV-VCR watch 09:44, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Even if you're new, you should be able to edit an unprotected pre-existing page without any problems. Since I am an admin, I find it especially important all sorts of people can reach me to ask for help. I think the issue you are having with your userpage is either due to your screen resolution or a Firefox 2 bug. Can you try making the window smaller and see if it has any effect on your userpage? If that doesn't do anything, could you try another browser to see if it is indeed a browser issue? - Mgm|^(talk) 10:07, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
MacGyverMagic's talk page is unprotected at the moment. --ais523 11:10, 9 March 2007 (U T C)

I get the same as you have shown in your image in FF (but it fixes itself if you edit and then preview the page), but it's fine in IE. Maybe if you try using one table with 100% width and four columns with 25% width each instead of four separate tables, then it shouldn't break and stack like it is at the moment. mattbr³⁰ 11:16, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I just tried that and it didn't work. It it isn't fixed in IE. --TV-VCR watch 20:48, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

HEALTH/BLOOD

WHAT IF SOMEONE HAS 78400000mm3 OF ERYTHROCYTES? DOES IT INDICATE TO SOME INFECTION IN BODY? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.243.163.202 (talk) 12:03, 9 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Have you tried the Science section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here's the link to post a question there: click here. Please note that Wikipedia does not give medical advice, and you may wish to consult a medical professional. I hope this helps. mattbr³⁰ 12:18, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Organism Articles in Biology

Is there any unified policy in Wikipedia, as to the taxonomic level which deserves a separate article? Do all species deserve a separate article each, no matter how short these articles are? Or should we only describe the species in the article of the genus, in cases where there isn't enough information for a separate article about the species? Gidip 14:12, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There isn't a unified policy per se, although there are some style guidelines that may offer direction. For example, the guideline on merging two pages into one suggests that editors consider either expanding or merging very short articles. In the case of species, it's likely that most species have enough verifiable, reliable outside sources that the individual species articles could be expanded; whether to leave them short for now in the hope that someone will expand them soon or to merge them to a genus article and spin out later is probably an issue for the sound judgment of the interested editors such as yourself. You might want to take a look at the "Tree of Life" wikiproject, which is a group of editors working on organizing the articles on organisms, and to the various subprojects listed there. The talk page for the appropriate project is probably the best place to suggest merging some of the short species articles, and the editors there are likely to have a lot of expertise on the subject. Thanks, TheronJ 14:37, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks, Gidip 14:51, 9 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

You probably want to read Wikipedia:WikiProject Biology and Wikipedia:WikiProject Taxonomy. - Mgm|^(talk) 16:42, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tools page needs proofreading

I'm trying to make Wikipedia's most effective tools as easy to understand and as useful as possible. Please take a look at it and let me know on its talk page how I can improve it. And if there's an especially useful tool that I've missed, please let me know! Thank you. The Transhumanist 17:27, 9 March 2007 (UTC) [reply]

I'd place the Editing section further up the manual. That's a lot of effort you put in there. Xiner (talk, email) 00:03, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay to delete spam sections?

The passive optical network article has several sections of spam at the end of it. Is it okay to just delete these sections? Riick 19:42, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you're talking about the manufacturer links, then I think you'd be right to remove them. To be on the safe side, read WP:SPAM and be absolutely sure that what you're deleting is in fact spam. - Mgm|^(talk) 20:15, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Lovely spam! Wonderful spam! Spam spa-a-a-a-a-am spam spa-a-a-a-a-am spam. Lovely spam! Lovely spam! Lovely spam! Lovely spam! Lovely spam! Spam spam spam spam! -Wo o ty Woot? contribs 00:14, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure you do not mean Spamalot rofl. Cheers Lethaniol 00:20, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Article on Oplan Bojinka

I'm a newbie who has enjoyed using Wikipedia.

I wanted to contribute additional information to the article but did not want to upset the writer. How do I do this?

Is their perhaps an old hand you could guide me?

Thank you.

RajaMudaRajaMuda 20:45, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As far as upsetting the writer goes, no one owns an article. Any information you add, as long as it is factual and properly cited, it should not be a problem. Be Bold! Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 20:53, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You could always look into the article history page to see who wrote most of the article and talk with them about the additions you want to make. If you want some guidance from a veteran user, I can recommend WP:ADOPT. - Mgm|^(talk) 21:31, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thumbnail question

How can a non logged in user request mediawiki to view a specific thumbnail size of an image (even making it generate the thumbnail is it's not even there) without using show preview and just doing something like how http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&useskin=myskin will make mediawiki user a certain skin?

To put it another way, Is there a way to alter thumbnail preferences using a GET comment with the & options like how you can alter skins with http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&useskin=myskin ? SakotGrimshine 22:11, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Only logged in users can change the size in which images can display on screen, simply go to Special:mypreferences and click files and change the appropriate settings to how you would like it and click save and that shoud solve your problems. Regards - Aquasplash 22:14, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

tag <categorytree>

Where can I find documentation on using this tag? Nashville Monkey 22:49, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Looking like it is a type of html for wiki - see explanation on its use here [7]. Cheers Lethaniol 00:24, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually this is quite a cool function (I suppose it is to be used in talk/wikipedia space as a tool for east navigation). Note you need javascript enabled - then <categorytree>Pharmacy</categorytree> produces:

Clicking on the +/- expands or collapses the category tree. Cool Cheers Lethaniol

Thanks! Nashville Monkey 00:40, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

March 10

Deleting search history

when i type something into the search bar a list of all searches Ive made apperas below it. This is quite bothersome how can i stop this from happening?

In Internet Explorer, click Tools -> Internet Options..., click the Content tab, click AutoComplete and there are options there. Uncheck the box for "forms" (and "Web addresses" and "User names and passwords on forms" if you want) and click "Clear Forms".
In Firefox, to disable the feature go to Tools -> Options..., in the Privacy section, click the Saved Forms tab and uncheck "Save information I enter in forms and the Search Bar" and click OK and then click Tools -> Clear Private Data... and make sure Saved Form Information has a tick and then click Clear Private Data Now. It's up to you to determine what other data you want to clear. --WikiSlasher 00:41, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

National Anthem Project

Could this article please be made more secure? It concerns a highly controversial project that has been the subject of considerable scholarly debate in many publications in the fields of music and education. Some contributors have attempted to provide a balanced depiction of pro and con arguments regarding this project. Examine previous versions of this page and you will find lists of references to relevant books and articles as well as an explanation of opposing views. However, someone - presumably directly associated with the project - has repeatedly deleted everything and simply posted what essentially amounts to a propagandistic advertisement supporting the project. Today, once again, that is what has been posted on this page. Thank you very much for your attention to this matter. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.218.204.17 (talk) 00:31, 10 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

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 ::[[Reeltime.com]] is a [[Help:Redirect|redirect]] to [[ReelTime.com]]. Perhaps that adds to the confusion. Read [[Help:Redirect]] to learn how redirects work, if you have not already. --[[User:Teratornis|Teratornis]] 18:30, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
+:::It is now, since Zosopedia set up the redirect after creating [[ReelTime.com]]  <span style="font-weight:bold;">  [[User:Mishatx|<span style="color: Black;">*Mishatx*</span>]]-<span style="font-size: 10px;">[[User talk:Mishatx|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">In</span>]]\[[Special:Contributions/Mishatx|<span style="color: Red;">Out</span>]]</span></span> 00:49, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
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