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The result was no consensus‎. Star Mississippi 22:14, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Serfdom in Tibet controversy

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Serfdom in Tibet controversy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This is a fairly unusual XfD but I submit that this article is based in large part on original research, despite citing a decent number of sources. The entire article plays out as a tit-for-tat "China says this" vs "Tibet exile/apologist says that" and there isn't really an attempt to actually frame anything within the context of "what actually happened".

It's understandable to say "the issue is contentious" but when the entire article becomes a matter of paraphrasing different POVs, there's very little that a reader can actually take out of the article. The only "real" encyclopedic piece of work I can see is "Tibetan welfare after the Chinese takeover", which itself does not seem particularly germane to the question of whether serfdom existed in Tibet prior to 1951, other than, perhaps, insinuating that the Chinese government does not care about Tibet or rather that the Tibetan social structure is so rigid that reforms have only been partially successful. Regardless, it does not feel as if this segment is appropriate for inclusion as a matter of historicity.

The same topic is covered to some length in the article Social class in Tibet, which approaches a similar topic from a perspective much more aligned with the standards on Wikipedia. I understand that approaching an article entitled "Controversy" is understandably difficult, but articles like Investiture Controversy and Controversy in Russia regarding the legitimacy of eastward NATO expansion handle their respective topics with substantially more grace and include the proper historical context instead of devolving eventually to namedropping entities and/or historians and assigning respective quotations without any contextualization as to what they mean. Augend (drop a line) 22:07, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak keep & rewrite. Regardless of whether serfdom has or has not existed in Tibet, the topic has gained enough traction and is notable. A quick search of "serfdom in Tibet" on Google Scholar brings up loads of articles: [1]. Social class in Tibet is a suitable article, but I think this topic deserves its own page.
That being said, if this article survives AfD, it will need to be significantly rewritten. Definitely don't make WP:POV forks out of it, but then I agree that there must be significant effort to compare POVs into a coherent article. We can also jettison the "Human rights in Tibet" section. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 23:30, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep & rewrite. I'd mostly agree with The Lonely Panther's position here, that the debate itself deserves its own article, mostly even just to keep track of all the perspectives on the issues. The 'serfdom controversy' is significant enough on its own, as seen by the size of the literature, to deserve a separate article from Chinese administration in Tibet and the controversy over that.
Potential rewrite could for sure use a lot more definitions and information on the structure, prevalence, and development of class structures throughout Tibetan history. Additionally more detail on exactly which historical events contain 'competing versions of Tibetan History', such as the disagreements over the nature of the 1959 Tibetan Uprising, is vital. Literal sun (talk) 18:00, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 02:29, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gate.io

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Orphan article. Over 50 references, but how many of those actually constitute significant coverage in reliable sources? I'm not sure I've seen enough here to be convinced this passes WP:GNG. Uhooep (talk) 15:32, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: I didn't have time to review all sources, but every one that I did check was an obvious laundered press release, i.e. churnalism. Nothing independent of the source and frankly nothing that wasn't WP:MILL, just routine notices of a company doing company stuff. Nothing notable to see here. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 01:33, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus‎. This does not preclude a rename or speedy renomination at a time when input might be forthcoming. Star Mississippi 03:57, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Asian Swimming Championships

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The tournament is a youth (Asian Asian Group) tournament, rather than the main continental swimming championship. The previous tournament for the main tournament was in 2016 Tokyo (10th) while the previous edition for the actual tournament in Bangalore, India (10th Asian Age Group). There's a lack of resources to create an article for theAsian Age Group Championships that would satisfy WP:GNG either. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 11:22, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The WordsmithTalk to me 22:54, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a procedure to at least move this page to it's accurate title "2024 Asian Group Championships" while still under AfD, the page has been under a inaccurate title for too long. I have to emphasize that this is a different tournament than the senior Asian Championship yet again. In restrospect, I should have moved this first before nominating for deletion.Hariboneagle927 (talk) 03:22, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  1. REDIRECT Target page name

Afghanistan

Proposed deletions

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Azerbaijan


Bangladesh

Manzur Al Matin

Manzur Al Matin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Subject does not appear to meet WP:GNG. Article seems too frivolous and like a vanity page, in my opinion. More sources would need to be added for this to fully meet notability guidelines. CycloneYoris talk! 06:23, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Bangladeshi military coup

2024 Bangladeshi military coup (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There was no military coup in Bangladesh in 2024. The article's central claim is factually incorrect, which misleads readers and distorts the historical record. The resignation of Sheikh Hasina was a direct result of widespread student movements, not a military intervention. The student protests demanded her resignation, leading to her decision to step down. Sheikh Hasina was given a 45-minute window to safely exit the country, a measure taken to protect her from the potentially angry crowd. This critical context is missing from the article, which portrays the events inaccurately. For more information please see: https://www.prothomalo.com/politics/jvacuciaoy —MdsShakil (talk) 22:59, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This article should be merged with Resignation of Sheikh Hasina —MdsShakil (talk) 23:01, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Don't Delete, Rename Article: There are articles that have used the term "coup". Please refer google search results. The 45-minute window is the main reason for such claims in most of them (Examples: 1, 2 3). If that is not enough to justify, I would suggest to rename the Article and move it to another more appropriate title, instead of deletion. Waonderer (talk) 23:09, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Waonderer You misunderstood. The intelligence agency told her that angry protesters was coming to her residence and would arrive in 45 minutes. To leave the country safely, she had to resign within that time. Please read the Prothom Alo article. This article may now be considered a WP:HOAX and it might have been merged with the related article. —MdsShakil (talk) 23:16, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Undestood. Due to the language barrier issues, I hadn't referred it first. Just read the translation now. The sources I have referred say "The Army gave the ultimatum". Can't comment on reliability of all the sources. Even in that case, this should be merged with another article or renamed, not deleted. As this article contains information that is not present in other articles.. Waonderer (talk) 23:22, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    My personal impression is it is largely certain sections of the Indian media which are referring to this as a "coup", and international media tend to avoid the term. Probably in part that reflects geopolitical calculations–Sheikh Hasina was generally perceived as friendly by India, and there is concern in India about whether a new government will be as friendly. I think it would be reasonable for whatever article to cover the debate about whether it constitutes a "coup", but there is presently insufficient consensus in reliable sources to describe it as one in Wikipedia's own voice. SomethingForDeletion (talk) 09:11, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Isn't the rationale for calling it a coup is that it's the military that took control after the resignation over some other political organ such as the president or the parliament? I mean I've found a bunch of sources calling it or at least suggesting that it looks like a coup. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]. I can't really say anything about the reliability of those sources other than the NYT and Reuters but it's what I found. Yvan Part (talk) 23:26, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    State power is not vested in the army or armed forces; they still function under the President. An interim government is being formed to run the country and may be sworn in tomorrow. The army is assisting in forming this government. —MdsShakil (talk) 23:33, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's kind of like the coup in Niger in 2023, where its military listened to anti-France and pro-Russian protesters. This can easily be considered a coup. Block345 (talk) 18:19, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that this likely technically counts as a coup – but the reality is most RS aren't calling it one (at least not yet), and Wikipedia has to go by what RS are calling it, not the technical definition of the term. Personally I think the term "coup" may well become more accepted by RS over the time – but we'll have to wait and see whether that happens, and if so how long it takes. If, a few years down the track, the term "coup" becomes well-established, we could always consider resurrecting this article. SomethingForDeletion (talk) 07:51, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The new government has just been sworn in, so the rumors of a military coup or military rule are not true. —MdsShakil (talk) 15:40, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/bangladeshs-history-upheaval-coups-2024-08-05/
  2. ^ https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/India/what-led-to-violent-protests-in-bangladesh-army-coup-against-sheikh-hasina/ar-AA1ohSrO
  3. ^ https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/08/05/world/bangladesh-protests
  4. ^ https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/other/live-coup-in-bangladesh-pm-sheikh-hasina-resigns-lands-in-india-after-fleeing-dhaka/ar-AA1ofyJT
  5. ^ https://www.livemint.com/global/bangladesh-protest-coup-sheikh-hasina-flee-india-golden-era-relations-stable-neighbour-china-threat-11722873822431.html
  • Merge per nomination: while Bangladesh is not a stranger to coups in the past, it seems this time that the anger of the general public ultimately lead to Sheikh Hasina resigning, so it feels more like a revolution than a coup. Therefore the current title appears misleading, even though the protesters don't want the army involved (source: BBC News). --Minoa (talk) 07:01, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge/Redirect to Resignation of Sheikh Hasina. Some sources are already calling this a coup, but most are not. I think it is really going to be determined by how the military acts in the coming days/weeks/months. If they decide to remain in power for an extended period of military rule, then it is likely the "coup" term will eventually become mainstream. Conversely, if they quickly step aside in favour of a return to civilian rule, it will probably remain a matter of controversy whether it counts as one. In other words, WP:TOOSOON. If reliable sources start to consistently call it a "coup", we can always resurrect this as an article. SomethingForDeletion (talk) 09:05, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Some sources are calling this a coup. Keep it for for now. It was the top defence officials that gave her the ultimatum. The very same officials are forming the interim government. If a new government is democratically elected soon the article should be deleted. Parth.297 (talk) 09:05, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's just a report. There's no confirmation she was given an ultimatum. Many sources state she resigned due to the protests. Linkin Prankster (talk) 13:36, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
THIS IS VERY MUCH AN HONEST ARTICLE. IT'S ACTUALLY RATHER A MILITARY COUP SUPPORTED BY US. SO KEEP IT. 106.66.41.81 (talk) 09:13, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
keep this article 106.66.41.81 (talk) 09:13, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can some admin please strike this comment? POV isn't allowed on Wikipedia. Linkin Prankster (talk) 05:39, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ajob Premer Golpo

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Sources are unreliable. I cannot find anything better to replace in a WP:BEFORE. There are only two pages of hits on GNews and nothing that is reliable from what I see. CNMall41 (talk) 09:07, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Diamond Didi Zindabad

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Fails WP:GNG. With the exception of one source, everything falls under WP:NEWSORGINDIA. Churnalism and press releases as well as no-bylined articles. CNMall41 (talk) 07:49, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep - There is not even a newspaper name under WP:NEWSORGINDIA. And the page is well notable. So I think it needs to be kept.
103.127.222.50 (talk) 08:38, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Brunei


Cambodia


China

Wang Xiangbing

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Significant coverage not found Runmastery (talk) 09:58, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Taylor Ogan

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CEO of a small hedge fund, not large enough to lend notability to either; not long out of university, with few publications. The references are about related topics but not about Ogan, who is mentioned tangetially if at all. Searches find routine listing and social media (with insufficient followers to use that to justify notability). Klbrain (talk) 20:01, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Manchukuo Government

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This seems to have been a joke in 2009, and now it's over. WP:N isn't temporary, but 2/3rds of the sources aren't reliable or aren't primary about the topic, leaving what I count as three-to-five bemused NOWNews/Ming Pao pieces that read more like Buzzfeed than Buzzfeed News. Maybe that sounds like enough to others, but given the facile substance I really don't think they need an article. Remsense诉 10:45, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'm about to make myself late for work again so not really much time to look for sources etc., but my initial impression is a slight leaning merge to Manchukuo § In popular culture. Please remind me to circle back this week. I've got a lot going on and will likely forget. Folly Mox (talk) 11:18, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Merge. There aren't more sources. Everything I'm finding with keywords in English or Chinese falls into one of three buckets: 1. Wikimedia sites 2. "official" websites of the group 3. false positives.
    This does seem to be some kind of joke, or perhaps an earnestly serious effort by a half dozen college students with no self-awareness, that reads as a joke to everyone else. In any case, it certainly doesn't deserve treatment as a government in exile nor as a legitimate independence movement.
    It is – to me – extremely funny that the second emperor elected by the group was a kid in New York with no claims of ties to Manchuria, and I think the absurdity of this whole thing deserves preservation, probably against content guidelines, so I'm landing at merge, and like Microplastic Consumer's merge target suggestion below equally well as my own suggestion above. Folly Mox (talk) 11:30, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Noting for funsies that the zh.wp article is disambiguated with (Internet Country), and ==See also==s Micronation. Folly Mox (talk) 11:35, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Manchurian Nationalism, the government in exile doesn't seem to be very serious. Seems to be either run by trolls or Japanese nationalists as opposed to a serious independence movement Microplastic Consumer (talk) 16:29, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kerry Chen

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Fails WP:GNG. Non-notable entrepreneur who lacks in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources independent of them. Promo article. Fjnat (talk) 16:42, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1).None of the references cited in the article are reliable sources and most of them are written in a promotional tone, especially the Chinese ones.
2).The "Fortune China's 40 Under 40 List" is NOT published by Fortune Magazine, but by the Chinese version of the magazine. The Chinese version of the magazine is far less reliable than that of the English version. The "Fortune China's 40 Under 40 List" is far less influential and recognizable than that of the Fortune Magazine's 40 under 40 List. Being included on the "Fortune China's 40 Under 40 List" doesn't establish notability. As for the rest of the nominations and awards, they do even less to establish notability.
3).A further in-depth search also failed to show any reliable, independent secondary sources about him. Fjnat (talk) 12:50, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep it passes notability guidelines. This reporting by China Daily [2] and this from China News Network [3] are reliable and significant coverage to pass WP:GNG. Aadditionally, the subject has been listed in the Fortune China 40 Business Elites Under 40 and has also appeared in the Shanghai Top Ten Internet Entrepreneurs as well as being nominated for Green China Person of the Year 2020-2021. These are significant business notability particularly in China – a country of over a billion people. The Fortune China 40 Business Elites Under 40 is credible, reliable and notable in China and all count for the subject’s notability. Teto Amo (talk) 18:58, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep before search and review of the cited references show WP:SIGCOV in independent reliable secondary sources. Runmastery (talk) 09:20, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Georgia

List of Georgian regions by life expectancy

List of Georgian regions by life expectancy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I don't believe this article meets WP:NLIST. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 02:25, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:NOTSTAT Statistics that lack context or explanation can reduce readability and may be confusing; accordingly, statistics should be placed in tables to enhance readability, and articles with statistics should include explanatory text providing context. and per Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 03:24, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion


Manchukuo Government

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This seems to have been a joke in 2009, and now it's over. WP:N isn't temporary, but 2/3rds of the sources aren't reliable or aren't primary about the topic, leaving what I count as three-to-five bemused NOWNews/Ming Pao pieces that read more like Buzzfeed than Buzzfeed News. Maybe that sounds like enough to others, but given the facile substance I really don't think they need an article. Remsense诉 10:45, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'm about to make myself late for work again so not really much time to look for sources etc., but my initial impression is a slight leaning merge to Manchukuo § In popular culture. Please remind me to circle back this week. I've got a lot going on and will likely forget. Folly Mox (talk) 11:18, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Merge. There aren't more sources. Everything I'm finding with keywords in English or Chinese falls into one of three buckets: 1. Wikimedia sites 2. "official" websites of the group 3. false positives.
    This does seem to be some kind of joke, or perhaps an earnestly serious effort by a half dozen college students with no self-awareness, that reads as a joke to everyone else. In any case, it certainly doesn't deserve treatment as a government in exile nor as a legitimate independence movement.
    It is – to me – extremely funny that the second emperor elected by the group was a kid in New York with no claims of ties to Manchuria, and I think the absurdity of this whole thing deserves preservation, probably against content guidelines, so I'm landing at merge, and like Microplastic Consumer's merge target suggestion below equally well as my own suggestion above. Folly Mox (talk) 11:30, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Noting for funsies that the zh.wp article is disambiguated with (Internet Country), and ==See also==s Micronation. Folly Mox (talk) 11:35, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Manchurian Nationalism, the government in exile doesn't seem to be very serious. Seems to be either run by trolls or Japanese nationalists as opposed to a serious independence movement Microplastic Consumer (talk) 16:29, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

India

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Indonesia

Muhammad Noer (Pacitan)

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Biography of a person, not properly sourced as having any strong claim to passing a Wikipedia inclusion criterion. The attempted notability claim is that he was involved in the creation of mosques in a village, which is in no way an automatic notability freebie without WP:GNG-worthy sourcing to support it, but the only "source" here just tangentially verifies the existence of the region the subject lived in without ever once mentioning his name at all, and thus clearly isn't about him for the purposes of helping to get him over GNG.
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have any coverage in reliable sources. Bearcat (talk) 15:36, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Indonesia Proposed deletions


Japan

Japanese–Hungarian linguistic connection

Japanese–Hungarian linguistic connection (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The entire text has major WP:SYNTH and WP:FRINGE issues, and the topic doesn't seem to be notable on its own. There are (outdated, afaik) hypotheses such as Ural-Altaic in which Japanese and Hungarian would share a common ancestor along with Finnish and Turkish and lots of other languages, but the current text fails to establish notability for a Japanese-Hungarian connection in particular and I would be surprised if such an idea were notable even as a fringe theory. Botterweg14 (talk) 22:11, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. Comparing Japonic with Uralic, or Proto-Japonic with Proto-Uralic, would be a legitimate subject. In fact, this subject is already covered in Classification of the Japonic languages § Uralic hypothesis. But comparing Modern Japanese and Modern Hungarian directly, based only on superficial resemblances, as this article does, is not just fringe science (like any hypothesis that claims a relationship between Uralic and Japonic, including macrofamily hypotheses such as Nostratic – these are not demonstrably wrong, principally methodically nonsensical or not even wrong, but poorly evidenced, generally not accepted and even widely rejected) but flat-out pseudoscience, see Pseudoscientific language comparison (and indeed not even wrong, methodically ignorant and unacceptable). Anyone can do this with random dictionaries, and it proves nothing. As an illustration, you might as well compare Modern French with Modern Moroccan Arabic and come to the conclusion that they are related because of superficial typological similarities and shared words, but this would be obviously absurd because we know about the history of these languages and their ancient ancestors, which are attested meaning that we can compare them directly, were nothing alike. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 09:23, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. No WP:SIGCOV of the topic in reliable sources. The article has been marred from the start and still is with OR/SYNTH and misused sources that don't support the statements that they are attached to and that don't cover the topic of the article. There are certainly notable macro-family proposals (mostly of a fringe nature) that include Japanese and Hungarian, but for singling out specifically these two languages in a separate article there simply is no SIGCOV. –Austronesier (talk) 11:40, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nintendo Network Service Database

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Doesn't appear to be notable outside Wii no Ma. IgelRM (talk) 09:47, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]




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Shafirul Azmi bin Suhaimi

Shafirul Azmi bin Suhaimi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails GNG and CREATIVE. Only one RS in references, BEFORE has no further RS available. StartGrammarTime (talk) 06:39, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bukit Bintang Boys' Secondary School

Bukit Bintang Boys' Secondary School (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unnotable school does not satisfy WP:GNG, some editor decided to remove PROD with no improvements what so ever. N niyaz (talk) 00:45, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • This is one example a mission school set up by missionaries in the early days in pre-Malaysia days, not that 'rare' yes, but they are getting there. In the current and foreseeable future of political climate and increasing Islamisation of Malaysia the number of these type of schools are on the decline (462 nationwide, 227 in peninsular Malaysia in 2011 [1] down to 420 nationwide, 191 in peninsular Malaysia in 2024 [2]. [Not that many of these schools have wiki pages written]. These schools have contributed in the Malaysia's early days as a nation to produce current and former leaders/notable persons. [Bukit Bintang Boys' Secondary School] is no exception (see its list of alumni). Not many schools among the 10,000+ currently operating schools in Malaysia can attest to that. Bukit Bintang Girls' School (also was a mission school, but sadly no longer exists) a sister school involved in its founding of BBBSS has its wiki page preserved.C.M. Au Yong (talk) 03:59, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I still stand by my earlier reasoning for this page to remain, being: historical and a pre-Malaysia school that has contributed to the early nation-building.C.M. Au Yong (talk) 03:55, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The facts of significance you provided deserve a place at article such as Education in Malaysia instead of this school. The school is not inherent of notability because it has early contribution to humanities as a missionary establishment per WP:ORGSIG. The school is not inheritable of notability because it has notable alumni per WP:INHERITORG.
Issue with this article is the history and other notable events sections fails to WP:PROVEIT with reliable sources. Other part could be just WP:MILL content. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 07:58, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sections that doesn't have verifiable/sources should be removed those cases, not an outright entire page removal. It doesn't help the case that the name "Bukit Bintang" is extremely SEO unfriendly as a casual web search with those terms will refer to "Jalan Bukit Bintang, Kuala Lumpur" the tourist spot, instead of the school. There are sources out there but they aren't electronic accessible/one dead trees for the most part/or buried in older web archives.C.M. Au Yong (talk) 15:07, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is just barely some digital traces that remain to this day, eg. mentioned in passing: BBBS & BBGS as major mission schools in the country in its day[3]. C.M. Au Yong (talk) 16:16, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I assume removing them would leave nothing much left. A search at https://search.nlb.gov.sg/onesearch/Search?query=%22bukit+bintang+boys%22&cont=newspaper showing newspapers but irrelevant to article. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 04:26, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Being a mission school does not address the issue whatsoever, 420 or 191 is a big number to start with. Some of the sources cited in the article are also press releases and/or paid materials. And for your information, the enwiki is not for personal blogging and since it is the most spoken language it should be more stricter than mswiki. N niyaz (talk) 14:51, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Mission schools in Malaysia". The Edge Malaysia. Retrieved 2024-07-23.
  2. ^ "Directory of Christian Mission Schools in Malaysian (2024)" (PDF). Federation of Christian Schools Malaysia. Retrieved 2024-07-23.)
  3. ^ ""A Christian's response to ACIS seminar — Stephen Ng"". www.malaymail.com. Retrieved 2024-07-24.

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(420 or 191) Of that number not many have wikipedia pages (see List of missionary schools in Malaysia), the ones that do is rather incomplete/or not much to begin with (like Ong Kai Jin, has mentioned, not "much left"). They all need significant work. As for personal blogging comment (I have been on Wikipedia long enough to be aware of that, far longer than both of you persons commenting), I agree that some edits need not be in there. (I believe that's because of the comments, asking for school news updates on the article's talk pages).
Remember that most of these school wiki pages are likely came to be/created/edited by students or staff (during their years there). They likely don't monitor the pages unless they are a frequent/semi-frequent contributor with an up-to-date account on Wikipedia, If they aren't regulars they are even more so unaware of Wikipedia's editing/writing article standards. (So that's a really low bar to getting school articles deleted without much contest)
The school's article certainly does not satisfy Wikipedia's definition of 'notability', as it does not have easily verifiable records in the digital age. There hasn't been much coverage on the school in recent years.
I have said all I wanted despite the school's lack of notability according to WP:GNG, the school is notable to the general public in its time of founding among other notable schools of its time along the likes of Victoria Institution, Methodist Boys' School, Kuala Lumpur and should remain like its sister school Bukit Bintang Girls' School. As the school's alumni, I'll say, "Nisi Dominus Frustra". I'm done here, there is only so much one person can do to convince anyone. C.M. Au Yong (talk) 18:28, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I say that the newspapers of English-medium and Malay-medium in the country lacked representing voice on the development of the schools. See WP:SBEXT. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 11:03, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
First, your account although older than ours, your sole purpose of creating that account is to edit the article mentioned which most probably means you have a WP:COI. Also notability CAN NOT be brief, unless the subject receives significant coverage. N niyaz (talk) 09:08, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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A search of “武吉免登男中” OR “武吉免登国中” OR “武吉免登中学” on Google showed some newspapers in Chinese mentioning the school but did not discuss on the school,[1][2][3][4][5][6] and this newspaper in Malay also.[7] Ong Kai Jin (talk) 17:27, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "人民力量接投诉．国中仍发《连环扣》". 星洲日报 [Sin Chew Daily] (in Chinese (Malaysia)). 2012-01-08. Retrieved 2024-08-06.
  2. ^ "杨美盈：征地包括灵17区及19区排屋．促公布金白大道路线详情". 星洲日报 [Sin Chew Daily] (in Chinese (Malaysia)). 2014-03-19. Retrieved 2024-08-06.
  3. ^ "灵市长:推广环保清洁 放眼30%市民参与3R". 南洋商报 [Nanyang Siang Pau] (in Chinese (Malaysia)). 2017-10-07. Retrieved 2024-08-06.
  4. ^ 刘, 佩明; 卢, 淑敏 (2021-09-20). "雪18岁以下 快来接种 MSU中心至23日 为27校服务". 中國報 [China Press] (in Chinese (Malaysia)). Retrieved 2024-08-06.
  5. ^ "◤新冠又一年◢ 雪18岁以下快来接种 MSU中心至23日 为27校服务". 中國報 [China Press] (in Chinese (Malaysia)). 2021-09-20. Retrieved 2024-08-06.
  6. ^ 张, 慧慈 (2023-11-08). "推介《护航行动》经费补助计划　林鸿泰：鼓励更多学生学习华文". 东方日报 [Oriental Daily News (Malaysia)] (in Chinese (Malaysia)). Retrieved 2024-08-06.
  7. ^ Razali, Safeek Affendy (2016-02-28). "Dua mati, 2 parah kes serangan kumpulan kongsi gelap". BH (newspaper) (in Chinese (Malaysia)). Retrieved 2024-08-05.


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Gyankunj School

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No notability of any sort, fails verification due to lack of any reliable citation link. I did plenty of clean up but feel this article should be deleted. SalvadorhernandezNY (talk) 22:49, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Very Filmy

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Appears to fail WP:NTV and WP:GNG DonaldD23 talk to me 12:41, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pakistan grave necrophilia hoax

Pakistan grave necrophilia hoax (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not every hoax requires its own standalone WP page. To qualify, it must meet the NEVENT, which states that the events including hoaxes should have WP:PERSISTENCE / significant coverage and demonstrate lasting significance or impact, which is not the case here. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 08:03, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: The hoax pretty much spread like wildfire, and has PERSISTENTLY BEEN reported in many articles, including reputable ones like Dawn.
Here are some sources that falsely report this rumour:
Firstpost (which you argued for its reliability once) - https://www.firstpost.com/world/parents-are-locking-their-daughters-graves-in-pakistan-but-why-12516002.html/amp
Associated News International - https://www.aninews.in/news/world/asia/pakistani-parents-lock-daughters-graves-to-avoid-rape20230429124712
Times of India - https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/spotlight/web-stories/why-are-people-locking-up-womens-graves-in-pakistan/photostory/99838682.cms
News sources that report the case being debunked and false:
The Express Tribune - https://tribune.com.pk/story/2414436/indian-media-spreads-fake-padlocked-grave-image-to-discredit-pakistan?amp=1
Dawn- https://www.dawn.com/news/amp/1750493
NDTV- https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/story-on-pictures-of-padlock-in-pakistan-incorrect-grave-from-hyderabad-3990281/amp/1
WION- https://www.wionews.com/south-asia/why-are-parents-locking-their-daughters-graves-in-pakistan-587324/amp
ALT News- https://www.altnews.in/media-misreport-viral-photo-of-grave-with-iron-grille-is-from-hyderabad-not-pakistan/
India TV News- https://www.indiatvnews.com/amp/news/india/the-truth-behind-graveyard-with-padlock-story-pakistan-hyderabad-video-photos-waris-pathan-latest-updates-2023-05-01-868273 VirtualVagabond (talk) 08:20, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
VirtualVagabond, OK but you're still missing the point. As mentioned earlier, this coverage does not meet WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE. Also Wikipedia:Existence ≠ Notability and WP:WIDESPREAD states Don't create an article on a news story covered in 109 newspapers. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 08:26, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This page has been picked up by reputable sources, so I’d say it pretty much is notable. Not to mention that this topic is brought up quite a bit, even warranting an article that was made about it only a few weeks ago:
https://www.boomlive.in/amp/fast-check/viral-picture-grave-locked-pakistan-parents-necrophilia-daughter-claim-online-25859 VirtualVagabond (talk) 08:34, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kachela

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No evidence for or assertion of notability under WP:GNG or other guidelines. No WP:SIGCOV. I propose to redirect to Sindhis but bringing to AfD after PROD was contested and another editor's BLAR was reverted. Dclemens1971 (talk) 23:39, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Inter-Services Public Relations media productions

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Fails WP:NLIST. Mention insignificant work. WP:NOT DIRECTORY — Saqib (talk I contribs) 06:44, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chaudhry Aurangzeb

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At first glance, the BLP seems good with citations and the subject appears notable. However, upon closer evaluation of the coverage, it falls short of meeting the GNG. The coverage tends to be routine, interview-based, or promotional in nature, lacking sig/in-depth or even independent. Furthermore, as the subject is not a member of parliament, they do not fulfill the NPOL either. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 16:28, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The East Is Blue

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This is an article on an essay in a book which itself does not have an article. In all fairness the book itself is notable but no one bothered to write an article on it where I would typically suggest something like this be merged. The essay has a few newspaper articles taking note of it (still mostly in the context of the book, and largely before the book released, but outside of the times piece they mostly read as press release adjacent and are very short. I think the times piece is fine but it's the only thing), and nothing else except passing non-sigcov mentions, not enough for gng. Redirect to Salman Rushdie? Unless someone wants to write an article on the book? I probably would if this was about any other topic. I'm not particularly strong on delete but I feel this is a strange situation. PARAKANYAA (talk) 09:16, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Baloch genocide

Baloch genocide (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article has numerable issues, it relies on questionable sources, and as well as contains original research. But most of all, it seems to be a WP:POVFORK of Human rights abuses in Balochistan. It doesn’t have a really good verifiability argument. Any content that is reliable should be moved to the Human rights abuse page, as this page is better established and has more to say. This page just seems extremely unnecessary. VirtualVagabond (talk) 05:45, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep: The topic is worth keeping as it does appear in academic literature, the article does need an overhaul, and as some commenters here know (due to their active work in the article), we have already improved it from it's poor initial state. As some examples of of the literature, from a quick search:
  1. Sarwar, Azam (2024). "Living ghosts and the Laapata: the episode of genocide continuum in Pakistani art". Continuum: Journal of Media & Cultural Studies. 38 (2).
  2. Nawaz, Maryam; Akhtar, Shahzad; Asghar, Muhammad Faizan (2023). "Drivers of Ethnic Terrorism: Case of Baloch Nationalist Movement (BNM)". Global Social Sciences Review. 8 (1).
  3. Patel, Pinal; Sharma, Saurabh (2022). "Enforced Disappearances: A Major Human Rights Issue in Balochistan". Journal of Social and Political Sciences. 5 (4).
  4. Zeb, Rizwan (2020). Ethno-political Conflict in Pakistan: The Baloch Movement. Routledge. ISBN 978-0-429-31813-9.
  5. Muzaffar, Muhammad; Karamat, Sidra; Saeed, Khalid (June 2018). "Balochistan Insurgency: Causes and Prospects". Orient Research Journal of Social Sciences. 3 (1).
  6. Dashti, Naseer (2017). The Baloch Conflict with Iran and Pakistan: Aspects of a National Liberation Struggle. Black Lacquer Press. ISBN 978-1-948288-10-1.
  7. Mullick, Fatima; Cooper, Charlie; El-Badawy, Emman (2015). Shia Genocide: A Crisis in Pakistan (Report). Lord Avebury, All-Party Parliamentary Group on Human Rights.
  8. Grare, Frederic (April 2013). Balochistan: The State versus the Nation. Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.
  9. Prakash, Aarushi (2013). "Peace or War Journalism: Case Study of the Balochistan Conflict in Pakistan". Strategic Analysis. 37 (5).
  10. Dashti, Naseer (2012). The Baloch and Balochistan: A historical account from the Beginning to the fall of the Baloch State. Trafford Publishing. ISBN 978-1-4669-5897-5.
  11. Wirsing, Robert G. (April 2008). Baloch Nationalism and the Geopolitics of Energy Resources: The Changing Context of Separatism in Pakistan. Strategic Studies Institute.
  12. Bansal, Alok (January–March 2006). "Balochistan: Continuing Violence and Its Implications". Strategic Analysis. 30 (1).
-- Cdjp1 (talk) 20:07, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No source above deals with the topic "genocide" which this article is titled. The content here are mostly compilations from other pages such as Human rights abuses in Balochistan. Even the sources you've listed above do not have WP:SIGCOV of the topic and relevant content already exists at many related pages like Insurgency in Balochistan, First Balochistan conflict, Second Balochistan conflict, Baloch nationalism and the Humans rights abuses page etc, to which more of this can be added. The topic of this article simply fails WP:GNG for it to have a standalone article. Axedd (talk) 20:34, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Grodsky, Brian (2012). "When two ambiguities collide: the use of genocide in self-determination drives". Journal of Genocide Research. 14 (1). - also details the Balochi Provincial Assembly's accusation against the Pakistani central government in 2006 of genocide against the Baloch people in 2006.
In previous example sources they discuss the claim of genocide, or state the reporting of a genocide against the Baloch people. And again, these examples are from a very short cursory search. -- Cdjp1 (talk) 21:17, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Oops, my mistake! VirtualVagabond (talk) 03:12, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: After conducting a WP:BEFORE, it appears that the topic may meet the GNG, but the article is poorly written. TNT applies. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 07:56, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Delete I checked some of Cdjp1's sources and they only had passing mention of genocide, often just passing mention quoting partisan op-eds and the like. As far as I can tell Ethno-political Conflict in Pakistan: The Baloch Movement. doesn't mention the topic at all. There was nothing that could support a stand-alone article about "genocide" or debate over a possible genocide. (t · c) buidhe 00:36, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Cdjp1: can you respond to this? If you still think there is WP:SIGCOV, please provide the top two sources and indicate the number of sentences they devote to the genocide discussion.VR (Please ping on reply) 15:14, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect - I looked at Grodsky 2012 and Mullick 2015 (arbitrarily chosen), neither contained SIGCOV. From the article itself, I looked at Siddiqui's South Asian Press article and the World Without Genocide post. A redirect to Human rights abuses in Balochistan seems appropriate, as discussed above. Suriname0 (talk) 03:37, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Baloch yakjehti committee

Baloch yakjehti committee (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Questionable notability per WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. Note that this appears to be a rewrite of a declined draft about the same organization by the same author: Draft:Baloch Yakjehti Committee (BYC). The same issues regarding formal tone appropriate for an encyclopedia noted as problematic in the declined draft seem to afflict this version. Geoff | Who, me? 22:59, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I disagree. It does meet GNG; the sources just aren't in the article.
Source assessment table: prepared by User:CFA
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
https://www.dawn.com/news/1845830/baloch-yakjehti-committee-postpones-sit-in-after-agreement-with-govt Yes Yes Listed on WP:NPPSG as reliable Yes About the organization ✔ Yes
https://theprint.in/world/pakistan-baloch-yakjehti-committee-establishes-central-organising-body-mahrang-baloch-chosen-central-organiser/2131286/ Yes Yes Listed on WP:NPPSG as reliable Yes About the organization ✔ Yes
https://m.thewire.in/article/south-asia/a-baloch-national-gathering-against-enforced-disappearances-and-human-rights-abuses/amp Yes Yes Listed on WP:NPPSG as generally reliable Yes About the organization ✔ Yes
https://www.geo.tv/latest/556473-baloch-yakjehti-committee-sit-in-enters-third-day Yes ~ Listed on WP:NPPSG as "leaning towards reliable" Yes About the organization ~ Partial
https://www.newsx.com/world/baloch-yakjehti-committee-to-run-endbalochgenocide-campaign-against-pakistan-atrocities/ Yes Yes Not listed anywhere, but no reason to assume it's not reliable Yes About the organization ✔ Yes
https://www.aninews.in/news/world/asia/byc-urges-rights-body-to-intervene-amid-escalating-abuses-in-balochistan20240724190635 Yes ~ No consensus on reliability Yes About the organization ~ Partial
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/pakistan/baloch-yakjehti-committee-criticises-pakistan-for-atrocities-against-people-of-balochistan/articleshow/111632036.cms Yes ~ No consensus on reliability Yes About the organization ~ Partial
https://www.lokmattimes.com/international/baloch-yakjehti-committee-steps-up-efforts-for-national-gathering/ Yes Yes Not listed anywhere, but no reason to assume it's not reliable Yes About the organization ✔ Yes
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.
That is a source assessment based on significant coverage by major news outlets. Even if we discount the non-listed or no-consensus sources, there are still three reliable sources that offer significant coverage. They just need to be added to the article when it is rewritten. C F A 💬 23:24, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sources like ANI and Times of India are not reliable for the topic. WP:RSPANI Look here for further information. Any India related news site is unreliable when it comes to political topics about Pakistan as the govt has vested interest involved. Other sources do exist but they fail to demonstrate WP:SIGCOV as of now. Axedd (talk) 00:26, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, which is why I marked them as "No consensus" on the chart above. There are still at least 3 reliable, independent sources that offer significant coverage of the organization, which shows that it meets WP:NORG. We can't say something fails GNG just because other unreliable sources happen to have also covered the topic. C F A 💬 00:31, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello user:CFA. Can you add the above recent sources, plus Amnesty International, Arab News and The Diplomat, to your table as well? They need to be added to the article also. Balochpal (talk) 16:26, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Question: as per the Voice of America, a reliable and authentic source, the Baloch Long March was a past event, not a present event, that happened months ago. (The Al Jazeera news doesn't event mention the long march when discussing the BYC). How would you use it to cover the broader topic of the whole BYC? VoA: Late last year, BYC led a 1,600-kilometer march to Islamabad with families awaiting the return of their loved ones gone missing in the fight between the state and Baloch separatists. Protesters faced severe police action as they tried to enter the capital. Demonstrators, braving the cold for days, eventually left after authorities warned of an imminent security threat. Balochpal (talk) 14:03, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Philippines

Powerade-Team Pilipinas

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This is basically just the Philippine men's national team playing under a corporate sponsor's name. See Articles for deletion/Gilas Pilipinas program.

The team did not play as a club (like in the case of its iteration as RP-Hapee Toothpaste in the PBA that would warrant a separate article for this as a quasi-ballclub. Its essentially just a labeled national team which only purely competed in national team tournaments as Powerade. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 01:12, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lilingayon, Bukidnon

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This article fails WP:NPLACE as it lacks WP:SIGCOV only WP:TRIVIALMENTION. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 12:21, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of titleholders under ALV Pageant Circle

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There's no indication that these two pageants together constitute an encyclopedic topic and the article is WP:SYNTH. We already have articles on each pageant, namely Miss Grand Philippines and Miss World Philippines, plus as a quasi notable grouping, Philippines at the Big Four beauty pageants which is quite sufficient for the topic. N.b. ALV Pageant Circle is a redlink, this has the appearance of trying to bootstrap it to notability and/or provide WP:PROMO. ☆ Bri (talk) 16:36, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. It's needless repetition of information provided elsewhere. Sciencefish (talk) 16:50, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RP-S512

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I'm sure the creators are proud, but it's a pretty standard example of this kit plane, with a notable exception being (possibly) the first produced in its country.

In other words, there's no encyclopedic value, it does not pass WP:GNG. tedder (talk) 15:42, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maita Sanchez

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Fails WP:NPOL, WP:NACTRESS or WP:GNG. Nothing that satisfies WP:ANYBIO here. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 05:41, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Palawan National School

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Marked as needing sources since 2021. Almost completely unsourced, and the one source provided is WP:PRIMARY to document the mission of the school. Summarizes the routine activities of the school. 331dot (talk) 11:22, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Carla Guevara Laforteza

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Very highly advertorialized ("known for being one of the most fearless and versatile Premiere Leading Ladies", "She enjoys watching movies, baking, and absolutely enjoys Cake, Fried Chicken and Pizza", etc.) WP:BLP of an actress and musician not properly sourced as passing inclusion criteria for actresses or musicians. There are statements here that would be valid notability claims if they were referenced properly, but nothing so "inherently" notable as to exempt her from having to cite proper sources just because of what the article asserts -- but this was "sourced" almost entirely to IMDB pages, Wikidata items and other Wikipedia articles, none of which are acceptable or notability-supporting sources, and after stripping those out all that's left is three short blurbs that aren't substantive enough to get her over WP:GNG all by themselves if they're the best she can do for proper third party coverage.
I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody with much more knowledge about Philippine musical theatre than I've got can rewrite it neutrally and source it properly, but it can't be kept in this state of writing tone and sourcing. Bearcat (talk) 13:58, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please familiarize yourself with our conflict of interest rules, because "the person in this article is also involve now in the revision" is the worst thing you could possibly have said here. Bearcat (talk) 18:27, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
thanks just for the verification of the information, however the info is now being updated as per the article published by the news or legal website, please be patient.. thank you for your help. Jhenie1326 (talk) 18:55, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete or Draftify. I went through the references, which were inconsistent in formating, and reformatted many of them. I also checked to see if the refs support the information. They do not support the Education and Personal Life section. I also do not see indepth sources; most are brief "fluffy" bits. As it looks like this article is recent and is still being worked on, draftify may be the best solution. Lamona (talk) 03:46, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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DXBE-FM

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No evidence this radio station passes WP:NCORP. Sources are unreliable or WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS; WP:BEFORE search turns up no WP:SIGCOV. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:20, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Singapore

List of Singapore Airlines Cargo destinations

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Fails WP:NOT, WP:NCORP. Redundant.

WP:NOT is failed because this is a complete listing of the services of a company on a randomly-selected date of no significance. As such it is excluded under WP:NOTCATALOG no. 6 which states that "Listings to be avoided include [...] products and services". It is also an indiscriminate listing - all destinations ever flown to, however briefly,. are listed without any attempt to summarise them which is against WP:IINFO.

WP:NCORP (which applies to the services of companies as well as the companies themselves) is failed because none of the sources here are independent, third-party, reliable sources required by WP:ORGIND. Instead the article is almost entirely cited to SIA Cargo's annual reports/website, the sole exceptions being a one-paragraph report on Aircargonews.net (which is trade-press), a press-release from Copenhagen airport (a business-partner of SIA Cargo and so not independent) and a press-release from the Scottish Government about a speech at a dinner marking the start of services from Presswick (again, not independent).

The page is redundant because SIA Cargo's services completely over-lap with those of Singapore Airlines, and the destinations of Singapore Airlines are already adequately summarised at Singapore_Airlines#Destinations. FOARP (talk) 16:46, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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South Korea

Sky Hundred

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There are only two articles worth of media coverage on this record as of writing this and neither of them are even long enough to prove its notability. An alternative to deletion in this case would be to draftify this article and wait for more lengthy and meaningful coverage about this album. lunaeclipse ⚧ (talk) 17:04, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aoora

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The person is Not notable to be added in the Wikipedia. The article is entirely promotional. The references are just some 'fashion style' non reliable non notable sources.

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Vietnam

Vĩnh Hòa

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All of the entries on this dab page are redlinks, apart from one to the Vĩnh Hòa, Nha Trang location. This disambiguation page does not list articles associated with the same title. It is effectively being used as a category page, so it would be better converted to a category. Northernhenge (talk) 11:57, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete those red links will less likely to be created as it lacks notability or even mentioned in the articles per se so it clearly violates MOS:DABRL Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 12:11, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: It is not a problem if dab page entries are red links, as long as they include one blue link to an article which mentions the topic. I've cleaned up this dab page, and the remaining red-linked communes are all mentioned in their district pages (though not sourced in most/all cases). For all I know this means "North area" or something similarly generic, but it seems useful to offer a dab page given that this placename is used for so many identifiable communes. It's now a properly formatted dab page with valid entries. PamD 08:22, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks – I can see now that wp:PRIMARYRED could apply. I’ve added a link to Vĩnh Hòa, An Giang. I see there are other articles for similarly names places, for example
    but it would need a native speaker or subject expert to say whether or not they are the same name, and whether (as PamD says) the name is significant in itself. I still think a category would be a better way of grouping these together though via their larger province areas, given the unlikelihood of notability being established for each individual commune/ward. The articles we do have pretty much just say the places exist. --Northernhenge (talk) 10:03, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Not sure what you mean, as you can't have red linked entities in a category. You wouldn't want a category of "Districts which include a commune called Vinh Hoa". Given that these all get a mention on their district page, it seems a useful and correct dab page. PamD 10:21, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You wouldn't want a category of "Districts which include a commune called Vinh Hoa" – True! --Northernhenge (talk) 11:17, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Northernhenge I still don't understand what you meant when you said a category would be a better way of grouping these together though via their larger province areas. Could you clarify? PamD 12:02, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think it would have resembled "Districts which include a commune called Vinh Hoa" which, now I’ve seen it written down, doesn’t look sensible. --Northernhenge (talk) 16:40, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    And as you suggest, those of us who aren't familiar with Vietnamese have no right to make assumptions as to whether these other places are the same or different - but I've recently almost confused placenames Unsworth and Usworth in my own country, so there's no reason to suppose that they are the same. Best left well alone, as long as dab pages are correctly formatted and we don't have red links without a mention in a blue-linked article. PamD 10:32, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The Vietnamese vi:Vĩnh_Hòa_(định_hướng) has 14 blue links, of which 4+2 seem substantial (non-stub) articles. These are not the usual dab redlinks because of non-notability, but because of language barrier and (deemed) low importance for en-wiki. But that's not the problem of the Dab page, so I appeal to WP:IAR in this case. – sgeureka t•c 13:19, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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