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April 11

Template help

I made this template and, for some reason, "}}" keeps appearing at the top of the page. I don't know why. Thanks. ~ Richmond96 t • c 01:53, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

There was a superfluous pair of closing braces. I have removed them for you. Intelligentsium 02:11, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Need to change contact email address

Hello

I registered my email for my wikipedia account quite a while ago and that address is no longer valid - my domain name is no longer under my control.

Is there anything I can do about this?

Thanks in advance —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.45.202.173 (talk) 03:28, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Can you access your account? If you can, you can change your email by clicking on "my preferences" in the top upper-right of the screen when you are logged in. At the bottom of that page, you can change your email. However, if you can't access you account (I'm guessing that you can't, as you are logged out), I'm not sure. Hopefully someone else can answer that. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 03:30, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

No, I forgot my password D:

Thanks for your help so far, however —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.45.202.173 (talk) 04:59, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately, there's nothing we can do if you have forgotten your password and have no valid email address attached to the account. You'll have to create a new one. Someguy1221 (talk) 06:55, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Go ahead and create a new account if you can't access the past one. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 13:53, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Eric Tunney article google link.

Hi there... The Eric Tunney article was linked properly to Google a couple of days ago, and was coming up in the search engine, but now it seems that for some reason, it has been completely severed, and the Tunney article does not come up at all in a basic google search.Paradise coyote (talk) 04:20, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Um, that's google's problem, right? You can't change that. Kayau Voting IS evil 07:15, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it's Google that indexes the web pages when you search for them, and so if the Wikipedia article isn't coming up in the search results that's Google's problem with their web page indexing. Chevymontecarlo. 12:00, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Alright, I shouldn't be doing this. What the heck! Dear Paradise Coyote, why don't you yourself add the Eric Tunney article's complete html link to Google's web crawler? ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 13:50, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Table of Contents: Default Show or Hide?

Hello fellow Wikipedians - just a question about the Table of Contents: I'm currently working on a page containing many sections (currently my user page if you want to look). Because of this, the table of contents box is REALLY long, and looks really unattractive. I still do want it to be usable for those who want it, but is there a way to make it "hidden" by default, so when someone visits the page, they'll have to click "show" to see it? Or is it normally hidden by default? I'd just like the table of contents to be there - but not showing the entire expanded thing everytime someone visits.

Thanks! - user:TCWikiEditor 15:36, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

I think the closest you can come is {{TOChidden}}. You could also consider {{TOC limit}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:49, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Note that these are OK in userspace but should rarely be used in mainspace articles, especially {{TOChidden}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:53, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Some really long mainspace articles may use {{TOC limit}} to limit the TOC's depth to level 1 or 2 -- in other words, any subheadings of level 3 or below still exist but are not displayed. Remember, though, that these templates should be used sparingly. You can also turn off TOCs for yourself only by going to Special:Preferences, clicking on the "Appearance" tab, then unticking "Show table of contents (for pages with more than 3 headings)" under "Advanced options". Xenon54 / talk / 16:03, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

A quick glance at your article shows some problems. You have no sources other than the school's site, and you need reliable sources, see WP:RS for statements such as "established a name for itself in the Chicagoland community", " academic excellence", etc. Right now the page reads exactly like an unfinished brochure you'd hand out to prospective parents, not like an article in an encyclopedia. It has far too much trivial decade, eg " Letter grades are issued after every 9 weeks (one quarter)", the number of credits required, etc. You also have a conflict of interest I believe, please see WP:COI. TCWIkiEditor I presume means Timothy Christian Wiki editor, and the school's name is Timothy Christian Schools. Your article should look more like this one Timothy Christian School (Illinois) -- lol, I'm glad I decided to do a web search. I'm afraid you will have to abandon your article, as that's the school you are writing about. The existing article looks like it belongs in an encyclopedia and is not a brochure. Please don't turn it into a promotional article. The difference between the two is striking and educational. I think the two should be preserved as an example of the right and wrong way to write an article about a school. Please don't take this personally, you're new here and we don't expect new users to create great articles. Also, please sign with four tildes like this: ~~~~ - it would have made it easier to find your article. Dougweller (talk) 16:28, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

editing & adding

How am i supossed to know about Editing!? what if the info is wrong OR not True? How can i add my youtube video to a subject? can i add/embed a youtube video? Please let me know —Preceding unsigned comment added by Raymasaki (talk • contribs) 16:02, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

1. You just did. Take a look at the tutorial and please don't hesitate to come back here if you don't understand it.
2. We have a verifiability policy that require every piece of information to cite a reliable source. Any information that does not cite a source, or that is otherwise clearly incorrect, can be removed on sight.
3. You can't.
4. You can't. Xenon54 / talk / 16:05, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

To expand Xenon's last two points: Please see WP:YOUTUBE and WP:RS. --ColinFine (talk) 17:16, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

And to expand on Xenon's 2nd point: Truth is relative. As Pontius Pilate asked Jesus, "What is Truth?" - that is why we look for verifiability - see Wikipedia:Truth for an essay on the subject -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 19:38, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Colour coded edits

What do each of the colours mean when using the user script User:Ais523/topcontrib.js as I am confused with what each colour means what. Paul2387 17:44, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

It's Syntax highlighting. Amongst the colours that you might see, there are:

• black for reserved words
• brown for other words
• dark green for comments
• light green for arithmetic operators
• red for numeric literals
• blue for string literals

--Redrose64 (talk) 18:06, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

What I mean is the colours that appear on user contributions when using the User:Ais523/topcontrib.js user script. It uses the colours: Yellow, Green, Blue and Pink. Paul2387 18:38, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

"After you've implemented this script, rows where another editor was the last to edit have a light red background, meaning "most recent," or, if the same page appears multiple times, a light orange background. Those pages are the ones you may want to check. Pages where you were the last to edit have a blue background (for most recent) or a light blue-green background (if the page appears multiple times)." - stolen from The Missing Manual.  Chzz  ►  20:42, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

move from sandbox to article

How do I move and article from my sandbox to article wizard or post it? Mishacat (talk) 18:04, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

You account is not yet autoconfirmed, which requires at least ten edits and it being four days old. You have only made three edits, so you can't yet move a page and the move button is not visible to you at the top of a page. If you can't think of anything to do, you can always use the Wikipedia:Lists of common misspellings to find corrections to make to achieve the editing threshold in short order.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:28, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I see you did not create a proposed article in a personal sandbox but instead edited the talk page of the Wikipedia:Sandbox. I have created the page in your user talk space at User talk:Mishacat/Robert Neil Cavally. That is the page you would move once the article is ready for the mainspace (it is not yet ready). However, you might wish to start from scratch using this content but starting at the article wizard as you refer to above. Just go here and use the content from the subpage I linked. I suggest taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial first. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:39, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank youMishacat (talk) 19:28, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Alan Callan

Alan Callan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) was stubbed in January due to WP:BLP issues. It could do with someone to rebuild it with good sources. I'm sure Mr Callan will be grateful for anyone who can rebuild a good, policy-compliant article. Guy (Help!) 18:43, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

WP:CORP questions

I am thinking of writing an article about the C. Crane Company, but I've spent the better part of an hour looking at WP:CORP and I can't come to a conclusion as to whether it is possible to establish notability. Specifically:

• While there are surprisingly few sources directly dealing with the company itself, I have found at least a dozen about one of their products, a LED light bulb known as "Geobulb". Is a company inherently notable because one of their products is notable, or must I prove the notability of both company and product?
• In the past I have seen articles on software use reviews to claim notability when there are few or no other sources. (I think I even wrote one such article a few years ago.) Is this permissible for any product, not just software, or is it not permissible at all?
• One of the sources I found that directly deals with the company in some way is a Business Week interview with the company's founder. Can this interview help to establish notability when combined with another direct source or two, or does it count as a primary source therefore removing its ability to establish notability?
• Finally, if I establish notability using secondary sources, am I allowed to use primary sources -- including the company's website -- to verify basic factual information, such as the date of founding?

Thanks, Xenon54 / talk / 19:28, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

• Notability is not inherited for organizations, but such information can help establish its notability when included with sources directly related to the company.
• If the review is a full length article, then yes, I would say it is permissible for any product- especially if the review comes from a major news outlet.
• No, it is eligible. It would be considered a primary source if it was an interview contained in a press release and distributed to Business Week; However, if a Business Week writer voluntarily chose to interview the subject, it is useful.
• Yes. See WP:SELFPUB for information on acceptable uses of self published material. liquidluck✽talk 23:53, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

please fix wikisource article

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In our wikisource article on Roe v. Wade, we jump directly from Section II to Section IV. [1]. This typo is perpuated elsewhere (e.g. [2]), which is probably how we got it. However, it IS a typo -- see, e.g., [3].

I have never edited Wikisource before, will someone please take care of this for me, thanks. JD Caselaw (talk) 20:24, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

"Acceptable use"

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I am trying to find this information on Wikipedia but I couldn't. What is the the "acceptable use" of Wikipedia? Is it ok to use some automated programs that makes hundreds of queries per minutes to collect some kind of information? Please direct me to the correct page for this info...I tried to search for a while but I don't know what the correct search term is and I couldn't find the answer myself. I am not about to write a such program; it is for a school paper. Thanks. Rockvee (talk) 21:41, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

I really don't know a lot about this but see Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks#Remote loading.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:27, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

See also our robots.txt at http://en.wikipedia.org/robots.txt. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:24, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. Those pages are seem to be for other websites which would display content of Wikipedia on their sites (likely for profit). Is there any info on private/non-profitable use of scripts? Rockvee (talk) 23:39, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Hundreds of queries per minute is most likely not OK. Do your work on a local copy of the database in that case. You can also request a toolserver account, to make queries on a copy of the sql database. Perhaps you should explain what you want to do ? If you need real technical assitence, you can ask the wikitech mailing list, or join the #wikimedia-tech IRC channel on the Freenode network. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 00:20, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Like I mentioned before, I am not planning to write such a script. It was for a school paper; I am researching on the possibility of a dynamic learning AI which can learn by crawling the Internet - limitation on "acceptable use" might be some problem to such AI. I original question is more like "does this policy explicitly exist" and by the look of it ...it doesn't (at least it does not have a dedicated page for it). I am closing this now. Thanks for everyone who tried to help! Rockvee (talk) 01:52, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Admin power abuse

Dear friends, whoever is going to read my question and answer. My IP has been temporarily banned from not English (other language national)wiki with the justification of overly agressiveness and offensive behavior, actually for three days. I will live with it. However, I have the feeling that I myself have been unfairly offended and terrorized. All I had been doing was editing and writing new articles for the last 20 days maybe too vigorously and maybe I have been asking too many questions and doing suggestions because I just had some free time. I can't keep smiling while writing this, because as an educated adult I cannot assess the situation as something else than an unexpected practical joke. Whatever. Of course I think that the decision was wrong moreover I was in the middle of saving a whole article of three hour job when the ban came like a big bucket of ice onto my head. Funny really. It was so unfair.

Is there any possibility of appealing against the admin power abuse in any particular national wiki?

Of course I must prove that I am right. Unfortunately if it has been English site you would have read the proof and understood but in this particular case I am not sure whether anybody from the English site can read and understand my language of a rather small wiki (less than 10000)to go through the work that I have done in the course of the last 20 days and read my discussions in the community page to see that I have been simply debating maybe with a more eloquent educated language than the COMMUNITY of 5 male admins has been used to and they have become afraid of somebody having pretensions over their small brotherhood principality. That is true the discussion was merely between three admins and me however they do the banning and declamations on behalf of the whole community and exactly when I had asked them to justify how many votes are comprising the VOICE of community. They accept every different idea with sticks and "shutups". Of course the 3 days is not a big time and later I can just shut up and not participate at all in their collegial brotherly discussion but I am truly afraid of the situation that the admin abuse is going to take place again.And I am even afraid they will just mess up with the huge work that I have done in more than 25 articles just in the course of 20 days. Sort of ADMIN VANDALISM because I have the proof. This small brotherhood of admins is actually censoring the articles and deleting those which they consider to have nationally not dignified content. And as long as I am absolutely sure that my behavior has been normal and my contributions to the site have been of a certain value and will be in future whatever reaction of current admins is I want to know how to protect myself from the terrorism of admin conspiracy. I cant believe that I am writing this. --Lilit Gabyan (talk) 23:57, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Conflicts in a national wikimedia site need to be resolved and appealed there. In cases of gross abuse of a wiki by its maintainers, you might consider writing to the foundation or to jimmy wales, but prepare your statements well, because they get a lot of such appeals and hardly any usually has any merit or prove. In case you are not welcome, just move elsewhere. You are more than welcome to edit here, if you abide by the rules a bit. :D I note that you are active on the topic Armenia. That is never easy, because it can be a controversial topic that has a lot of history and some very combative editors try to mess with it at times. You might want to try and avoid such controversial topic until you are gigantically experienced with wikipedia. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 00:27, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I must insist that we remember they are not "national" wikipedias; each Wikipedia is language-specific, not nation-specific. An editor of the Danish-language Wikipedia might be an Uruguayan; an editor here in English might be a Gheg or a Minangkabau; and of course all of us at la Vikipedio de Esperanto have our own national affiliations. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:54, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I should also note that all Wikimedia websites, including the various language Wikipedia's are all independently run. No one site, even the largest (en.wikipedia), has any supremacy or jurisdiction over any other, with the exception of Wikimedia Foundation issues. Unfortunately, if you are having a problem on another language's Wikipedia, there is no way that anyone at English Wikipedia can help you resolve it. You can only resolve this at that particular Wikipedia. Your best option is to study up on the behavioral norms at THAT wikipedia, and abide by them. --Jayron32 00:37, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the good advice but you can not even imagine at this very moment there is going on a vivid discussion there on erasing all the work that I have done in the course of the 3 days, while I am banned and you cannot imagine how painful it is because I had truly contributed with the best of my mind and heart. What a waste of time!! How can they!! I cannot even imagine and I can do nothing just watch! Hours and hours of work. How can people be so cruel and ignorant and by the way I have not touched any historic or political matter I have translated more than 30 pages of Wikipedia missing articles and started the huge list of Latin expressions, And now all I can do is just watch how all this work will be ruined They are just now discussing how they are going to do it Ican't believe it now i do not smiel mor sure --Lilit Gabyan (talk) 00:52, 12 April 2010 (UTC) .

April 12

Will I be allowed to usurp an account?

I created my account here a month ago. When I decided to do so, I wished to have the username Magician, but it had already been taken and I had to work pretty hard until I found a synonym of this that wasn't the username of anyone. User:Magician has no contributions, and the date of the creation of this account is not on this list, which (I presume) should mean this happened long ago. The instructions on the usurpation requests page advise against posting a request if one's user account is "less than several months old, or barely used". Should I wait until the summer to make a request? And if I wait till my account is a few months old, will I be allowed to usurp the name without giving a reason other that "I like this better"? Also, what will happen to the accounts I have for other wikis? Will the renaming affect all of them? I hope not, and if not, I will ask the bureaucrats in the respective project (e.g. Wikipedia in Russian or Latin) to change my username to the local word for magician as soon as I decide to start contributing there. I will not use my account for the Bulgarian Wikipedia, because I already have one there with a different username since 2007. Thanks. --Магьосник (talk) 00:11, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

This is probaly correct. I would like to point out however that User:magician is the username of a user on the english Wikiquote and you can see here that his account was used as recently as 25 August 2009. This combined with the fact that this username has been used to edit multiple wikis, should make you want to think twice about picking such a username, because you can never have a fully unified login for such a name. I'm not even sure if you will be allowed to rename to such an account in the first place. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 00:41, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I think you got my idea a bit wrong. I don't care if I will have an identified login. I even set up a unified login just because I didn't know how to do otherwise, and I originally wanted to give it up and to use a separate account on every Wikipedia I edit. My idea was that I'd like to use the word magician translated into the content language of every project I contribute to. If this is impossible for the English Wikipedia for objective considerations, it's not that bad. I can quite easily live this way. :) --Магьосник (talk) 01:00, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Image not duplicating correctly from Wiki Media Commons

I'm hoping someone can help with a very minor image issue that's been bugging me for months: I noticed last November that the mission insignia (Apollo 13-insignia.png) in the Apollo 13 infobox was incorrectly rotated about 5 degrees to the right (in its correct display, the A in Apollo and the final I in XIII are level so that "Apollo XIII" is centered at the top). On Nov. 18, I uploaded a new version with the insignia straightened at Wiki Media Commons. That change did carry over to the image's file page on English Wikipedia, but it has never duplicated (propagated?) correctly to the article's infobox, nor to the other few articles where it is used. I raised the issue a few days later and was told it might take some time. Here it is five months later, and no change. Again, I know this is pretty minor, but given some of the other micro-issues raised I see raised here I thought I'd ask again (today is the 40th anniversary of the mission's launch, so I figured I might have some luck!).

Thanks for any help, RadioBroadcast (talk) 01:37, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I changed it to the svg version of the image and that seems to work. ~~ GB fan ~~ ^talk 02:00, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Well sure, but that is a pretty ugly version that does not reflect the insignia's real colors. Although I appreciate the effort, I have reverted it back and hope there can be a more elegant solution. RadioBroadcast (talk)

I purged the image on Commons, so new thumbnails should be generated now. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 08:31, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! RadioBroadcast (talk) 14:17, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Use an image as an external link?

I was wondering if it's possible to use an image as an external link. I'm trying to make a sort of "mosaic" of the icons of all the sites I exist on, and I was wondering if something like that would work, and if it follows Wikipedia's protocol. Hmmwhatsthisdo (talk) 03:27, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Are you referring to other Wikimedia user pages or sites unrelated to Wikipedia and Wikimedia? Wikipedia:User pages says: "You are also welcome to include a simple link to your personal home page". If you refer to many links unrelated to Wikimedia then it's not what user pages are for, and you shouldn't direct users to external sites they don't expect when clicking somewhere. The technical side is described at Wikipedia:Images linking to articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

MW syntax does not allow for images to be used as anchors to external links, sorry. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 10:24, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes it does. My link to Wikipedia:Images linking to articles shows an example. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:38, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Science question

why did /does some organic material not become oil or gas04:30, 12 April 2010 (UTC)~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Philjacobs100 (talk • contribs)

Try Wikipedia:Reference desk for answers to general knowledge questions. --Jayron32 04:39, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

But note that we will not do your homework for you. – ukexpat (talk) 13:31, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I can't find a guideline

I can't find the guideline that prevents (or frowns upon) a user reverting warnings placed in his talk page for disruptive editing. Any help finding it would be appreciated. Thank you, RaaGgio (talk) 04:48, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

WP:TPO. No preventing there. Funny huh? –Turian (talk) 04:49, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Actually WP:BLANKING specifically states that users may remove warnings from their talk page. "Policy does not prohibit users, including both registered and anonymous users, from removing comments from their own talk pages, although archiving is preferred. The removal of material from a user page is normally taken to mean that the user has read and is aware of its contents. There is no need to keep them on display and usually users should not be forced do so." (bolding mine). If you warned a user about something, and they deleted the warning, it means they got the warning. There is no need to keep it around. --Jayron32 05:03, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I knew this existed. Well, indeed Wikipedia "frowns upon" or discourages said action (like I had mentioned in the question), but does not prevent it. RaaGgio (talk) 05:10, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Please read WP:BLANKING again, it is definitely not "frowned upon", but actually permitted, subject to the cases specified: "Policy does not prohibit users, including both registered and anonymous users, from removing comments from their own talk pages, although archiving is preferred." – ukexpat (talk) 17:48, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Help with Preferences

I use an old browser (Netscape) on my awfully old computer. I can't view my preferences page. Is there a "simple HTML" option like that in Gmail that can be employed here? Purlot (talk) 06:08, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, in fact. In "my preferences", under "appearance", you can change the default appearance (skin) of Wikipedia. "Classic", "nostalgia" and "simple" perform better than others on older browsers. You will have to be logged in for this effect to remain. Someguy1221 (talk) 07:08, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh, whoop's. I didn't realize you can't view the "my preferences" page. Try viewing your preferences through this link., and changing your default appearance from there. Someguy1221 (talk) 07:11, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia's text has changed

Hi, the text on wikipedia has changed to some weird font. How do i change it back to Times New Roman? (The normal font)

This is almost certainly a problem with your web browser. Which one do you use? Someguy1221 (talk) 07:08, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I use Motzilla Firefox, Normal Internet Explorer kept giving me Virus's

Go to the tools pulldown menu, and select options. Go to the tab labeled "Content". There, you should see a dropdown menu for selecting font and font size. Hope this helped, Riffraffselbow (talk) 09:03, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Another thing worth noting: if you hit the "Advanced..." button next to the menu, you should see a popup. In the popup there should be a tickbox for "allow pages to choose their own fonts" or something like that. If it's not ticked, then you're not seeing the fonts Wikipedia uses.

Wikipedia does not define its own fonts to use. It simply displays in your browser's default sans-serif font. Go to the preferences, then Content, then click Advanced..., then make sure the sans-serif font is set to something readable -- the default on Windows systems is probably Arial. Xenon54 / talk / 10:15, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Hooghalen - an Illustration obscures text

I navigated to the Hooghalen page and found that an enlarged illustration (map) overlays the upper portion of the text. I have no idea what syntax will fix that map in place, though I'd be interested in revisiting that page again in edit view after it's been repaired (hint, hint :-) -- thanks, Deborahjay (talk) 11:27, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I fixed the bunching of the images and removed the image in the lower box that was a duplicate of the image in the upper box. – ukexpat (talk) 13:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Question

could you please explain to me, What use in a living society. what are the role of mosquitoes. thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.228.159.44 (talk • contribs) 12:16, 12 April 2010

This question should be asked at the Reference Desk. The Help Desk is for Wikipedia-related queries only. Orphan Wiki 12:19, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

You might also like to read mosquito, and use that as a starting point for your research.--BelovedFreak 12:41, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

But note that we will not do your homework for you. – ukexpat (talk) 13:23, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Edit to list of Gentlemen's Clubs

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I just happen to know the missing address of the Primrose Club (under Defunct or Merged Clubs). (I may have said this before). Can anyone be bothered to put it into the page for me? The address of the Club in 1902 was 4&5 Park Place, St James's Street. It is listed in the London Street Directory for 1902. Thank you.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.137.197.201 (talk • contribs) 12:27, 12 April 2010

Hello, please feel free to add the information yourself. Anyone can add information to (most of) the articles on Wikipedia. List of London's gentlemen's clubs doesn't appear to be protected against edits from anonymous users.--BelovedFreak 12:38, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Changing Page Name

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 – CraigZZR (talk) 15:33, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi,

I've been working on Glazebrook East Junction to Skelton Juction Line page and I noticed when I saved it the first time I had an error in the title. I've seemingly spelt Junction in the latter part of it wrong.

Is there anyway this can be changed?

Cheers

Craig— Preceding unsigned comment added by CraigZZR (talk • contribs)

User:Notedgrant has moved the page to the correct spelling. – ukexpat (talk) 15:26, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I've moved the page to Glazebrook East Junction to Skelton Junction Line--NotedGrant Talk 15:28, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Change the Author of a book

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It appears that there is some confusion regarding the Author of the book

"Hard Times in Ontario, A Pretty Story, Certainly." It is quite clear that the author was a James Shannon (1829-1903) and the book was printed at the Kingston office of the Daily News Office in 1872. The James Shannon that wrote this book is my Great grandfather on my mother's side.

James Shannon b Jun 2, 1829 Tobermore, Co Derry NIR

d Aug 9, 1903 Kingston, ON, Canada----— Preceding unsigned comment added by DougMartha (talk • contribs)

• I can not find either the book or the author on this site. Kittybrewster ☎ 16:00, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I suspect that this is an off-wiki matter that the OP is bringing here on the assumption that we can help. I have also just undone a couple of inappropriate but good faith edits by the OP to James Shannon (disambiguation). – ukexpat (talk) 16:23, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

It appears the OP was asking about this pamphlet by James A. Shannon, for what help that might be.User:LeadSongDog come howl 18:09, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Telenovelas

I would like to know, how I can purchase the recent telenovelas, Like Dona Babara, El Rostro De Analia, El Zorro and many others. I looked on the Amazon.Com but I did not see the ones that I want. I just love Christian Meier, would love to own some of his novelas!! Thanks Lydia Famelio —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.190.74.130 (talk • contribs) 17:12, 12 April 2010

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our roughly three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 TNXMan 17:32, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia Intranet

I would like to use Wikipedia to write articles, upload pictures, marketing material etc but, restrict the content to nominated personnel within my own organisation. I.e. to have the Wiki functionality but not make it avaiable to the general public.

Is this possible and if yes, how?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.158.139.100 (talk • contribs) 17:20, 12 April 2010

The MediaWiki software used by Wikipedia is free to download from http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download

Information about the software, the license under which it's released (GPL), and other requirements can be found at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_does_MediaWiki_work%3F

You will need your own servers and own internal infrastructure to support the software. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 17:24, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Hindu priests

I am Sarma Sasthrigal from Chennai, India. I am a Hindu priest and would like my name to be included in your site category. Please let me know what is the procedure? Thanks.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.64.183.164 (talk • contribs)

Are you notable as defined here? If not then I am afraid that you do not meet Wikipedia's inclusion criteria. If you are notable, then someone will write an article about you sooner or later. You are strongly advised not to create such an article yourself. – ukexpat (talk) 17:42, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Days

days of the week for specific dates— Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.152.86.108 (talk • contribs)

You can try typing the date in the search box on the left-hand side of the page. Or if you have a specific date, we may be able to help you. TNXMan 17:38, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

What you seem to be looking for is a perpetual calendar (online ones are linked at the bottom of the article). Deor (talk) 17:52, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

User Access Review

I would like to start a discussion on the user rights and groups as now and then I find user rights being discussed in a number of places such as Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship and Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals), and they can sometimes be discussed in separate threads making it hard to follow the discussion.

Therefore if a dedicated discussion was started it could focus more on discussing the improvements that could be made and how the User Rights/Groups have changed since January 2001.

The things that could be discussed would be:

• Reviewing Existing Groups one-by-one and discussing a way forward with each one
• Improving the assignment of User Rights (Blocking, Protecting etc.)
• User Groups that may be obsolete (No longer required - Founder being an example) to be discussed for potential removal
• Potential splitting of existing User Groups to create more realistic roles (An Example being Moderator for the Block tool and Janitor for the Protect and Delete tool's)

So if this is possible where would the best place be to start the discussion. Happy to be of assistance Paul2387 20:20, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

The best place to start this discussion would be the policy village pump. I will warn you however that the sort of far reaching changes you are proposing must be incredibly well thought-out and written-out to have any hope of gaining traction. Simply throwing out a proposal like this will get you nowhere. TNXMan 20:55, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Image info edit question

How do you edit the Comments section of an image file that you yourself uploaded?Rouder (talk) 21:25, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Click the edit tab at the top of the image information page, though be careful that you don't inadvertently delete information that has to be there, such as permission and copyright info. – ukexpat (talk) 21:53, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I see you tried to edit it in [4] but it was misformatted. Only edit the parts after the equal signs. See also {{Information}}. I have restored the original text and added the source in your edit. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:58, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

User page / Search page

Resolved

 – Article speedily deleted as blatant spam, username spamnameblocked. – ukexpat (talk) 14:28, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

When I log in the information that I put in is under the User page, but when I log out and search the title of my page (MLG Communities) it doesn't come up. Why?— Preceding unsigned comment added by MLG Communities (talk • contribs)

It can take a while for the internal search engine to index new articles. Please note however that your username is in violation of our user name policy and that I have tagged MLG Communities for speedy deletion as blatant advertising. – ukexpat (talk) 21:57, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:50, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Help with Coordinates in an Infobox

Resolved

 – 131.111.185.75 (talk) 22:44, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I created a sample page to test using a template for an Organization Info Box. The coordinates for the location are contained in a macro, and this is what the code within the info box looks like: |coords = "{{coord|40.725989|N|-73.99882|W|}}"

On the page, the coordinates look like this: "40.725989°N -73.99882°W
"

The problem is, when you click on the coordinates, the longitutde converts as +73.99882, which is EAST. All of the global services take you to Krygrzstan instead of New York City!

Here is a link to the page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:LoreMariano/samplePic

Can someone please tell me why the minus is converting to plus on the global services page? Thank you. LoreMariano (talk) 22:25, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

You have a double negative there (W implies negative, you don't need another one) - try 40.725989°N 73.99882°W / 40.725989; -73.99882 or, more obscurely 40.725989°N -73.99882°E
. You could also use {{coord|40.725989|-73.99882}} and the N and W will be added automatically. 131.111.185.75 (talk) 22:35, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you so much! That worked! LoreMariano (talk) 22:43, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

project banner problem

Anyone know how to fix a wikiproject banner so articles are placed in the relevant top category in addition to the specific class/importance categories? eg Category:South Asia articles should have all South Asia articles in it, but doesn't, so {{WikiProject South Asia}} needs fixing somehow. (NB this is to enable both Recognised Content bot (JL-Bot) and RecentChangesLinked from the category.) Rd232 ^talk 22:57, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I don't have experience with this but it appears from Template:WPBannerMeta that you need MAIN_CAT = South Asia articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:14, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

April 13

Who decides what a "fact" is...

I work with a band called FAMILY FORCE FIVE who found many errors on their Wikipedia page. They have asked me to change them. I tried to change them, but Spence "The Chef" told me I was wrong about what I changed so he reverted back to the old page.

He wouldn't let me take off a made-up genre that the band HATES just because there was a press reference from some journalist that made it up. It haunts every interview the band does - because journalists do research on Wikipedia to interview the band.

He wouldn't let me correct the label listing for the band. There were initial negotiations with Tooth & Nail records and the band used to be on the website, but they are no longer on the site and the band never was actually on the label. Wouldn't the band know this best? (or at least better than Spence "The Chef"?)

This is making the band and their manager insane and they, as a result, are making ME insane. Is there anything I can do about this??

-Jamie Roberts Big Machine Media www.bigmachinemedia.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by JaneSane (talk • contribs) 00:42, 13 April 2010

The band should know what has been written about them. They should be able to provide credible references that back any changes that they want made. They should also understand that anyone on the Internet could say "I'm working with the band" and demand that changes be made without any references to back it up. In the end, Wikipedia is not a set of facts. Wikipedia is a set of credible references. If the references are wrong, Wikipedia is wrong. -- kainaw™ 00:48, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

To reiterate what Kainaw says, Wikipedia is based on verifiability, not "truth". So any and all "facts" need to be backed up by references - so you need to find, credible references that note the correction. Also, a note that if you are associated with the band, you should read up on the conflict of interest guidelines to make sure that you avoid any claims of impropriety. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 00:54, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

I've taken this to talk:Family Force 5#Genre discussion. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 10:35, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Article into the news

The article Nuclear fuel bank covers a topic that will be hot at the Nuclear Security Summit (2010), but I don't see how to get it into the news. Method? Simesa (talk) 00:46, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

NVM - Going to start at [5]. Simesa (talk) 00:50, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

If you're talking about getting a blurb in the "In the news" section on the main page, see WP:ITN—in particular, the "Procedure" subsection. Deor (talk) 01:41, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Needing a copy of GED

I need to know how to go about getting a copy of my GED.Jpace69 (talk) 02:05, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps.Template:Z37 – ukexpat (talk) 02:20, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

How to edit

How do I edit pages? I would to help by I am not sure what to do? Do I need an administrator's permisson? If so how do I get it? thanks! -Mark—Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.255.164.54 (talk • contribs) 03:06, 13 April 2010

No, you do not need an administrator's permission. Be bold. And there will be an 'edit' tab at the top of every page. Hope this helps, --The High Fin Sperm Whale 03:12, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

And also take a look at WP:How to edit. – ukexpat (talk) 03:14, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Karl Duguid

I was looking at karl duguid's page and it said for colchester he made 386 appearances but on soccerbase it says he made 385. Im not sure. Gobbleswoggler (talk) 09:00, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Facts that are mentioned differently in reliable sources should be mentioned differently citing the sources on the wikipedia article page. If a majority of sources give one number of appearances, and a minority of sources give another number, then the appearances should get a similar importance in the main Wikipedia article. For example, the minority sources could be mentioned as footnotes... ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 04:39, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Gracie and Zarkov

I was wondering how I would go about finding out why an article has been restored after deletion. Is there an "AfR", (meaning Articles for Restoration, similar to the AfD) or what do I do? I contacted the Admin who deleted the page initially after consensus at WP:AfD (not the same one who restored) and he referred me to WP:DRV, which as I understand it is for reviewing article deletion, which is not what I want.

The message below is the one I sent the Admin who deleted the article initially after delete consensus. (User:Kevin):

The article Gracie and Zarkov was placed on AfD on 30 September 2009, and eventually, after being relisted twice, consensus was reached. The consensus of delete was confirmed by you when closing the discussion. Yet the AfD tag was then removed (this remains the most recent edit), and the article continues to exist, 5 months and 15 days after you closed the discussion. I was wondering if I have missed something here, or should the article be deleted after all? If so, would you mind doing the honours, as I am not an admin :P
Thanks in advance, -m-i-k-e-y-.

Thanks, -m-i-k-e-y-^{Talk / C} 09:40, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

The logs show that the article was restored on 28 November 2009. I'd think the admin (User:Anetode) who restored the article is probably best placed to answer this - have you tried to contact him/her? Gonzonoir (talk) 09:51, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Unless I'm missing something, you were directed to the right place. WP:DRV is a process to review articles which have been deleted, to see if that decision was correct. In many cases, the original decision is affirmed, and the article remains deleted, in other cases, the original decision to delete is reversed, and the article is restored.--SPhilbrickT 11:24, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

The article is extant at the moment, and I'm interpreting -m-i-k-e-y-'s question as one about why, specifically, it was restored. In this case he would need a link to a specific prior discussion at WP:DRV (if one took place) to understand why this article, which had been deleted following an AfD discussion, was brought back. So he's not looking to open a new discussion, but to find out whether one previously took place. I thought the restoring admin would be able to point the way. Gonzonoir (talk) 11:30, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

On reflection my initial advice here wasn't that good - I didn't realize DRV was so handily searchable, or I would just have looked for an archived discussion straight away and pointed -m-i-k-e-y- to that (or, finding none, suggested contacting the restoring admin). Sorry for the runaround! Gonzonoir (talk) 11:35, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

There also doesn't appear to be an archived case at WP:DRV relevant to this article, so again I think contacting the restoring admin will be the best way forward. Gonzonoir (talk) 11:32, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

YOU SAY YOU WANT HELP

You say you want help with your accuracy, but I have been trying for the past 30 minutes to add Maryland to your list of confederate states, as verified by your OWN acknowledgment of the Mason-Dixon line, and have come up with nothing but frustration. Do you have to be a web site developer to correct a listing???—Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeannevski (talk • contribs) 10:14, 13 April 2010

Take a look at our tutorial if your edit isn't looking like it should. However, I think a bigger problem is that what you are adding is not true. The Mason-Dixon line was never the Union - Confederate border. Maryland, Delaware and West Virginia are all below the line, and they all remained part of the Union despite the fact they allowed slavery. Xenon54 / talk / 10:21, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

The Confederate States of America are listed on many pages. Which page were you trying to edit? As Xenon54 says, Maryland was not Confederate. See Maryland in the American Civil War and Mason–Dixon Line. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:27, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Will I be contacted if my article is refused/deleted?

I submitted an article yesterday and I am curious to know how long it takes to be approved and if I will be contacted to confirm if it has been accepted or refused. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Henrim1980 (talk • contribs) 10:54, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Articles are not "approved" before being published; the page you have created at User:Henrim1980/The Mustangs will stay there unless it is moved. You will be able to do this yourself once your account is autoconfirmed. However, I can see that in its current form it is not yet ready to be moved; even after some copyediting the article still completely lacks reliable sources which could be used to verify the contents, and the tone is too promotional. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 11:07, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi thumperward, thanks for your feedback, im new to this and need all the help I can get, could you please let me know where in particular you feel the article is to promotional in tone, and also I need a little help with the resources area - henrim1980 13:20, 13 April 2010

Read WP:PEACOCK for starters. Phrases that catch the eye as unacceptably promotional are, "unusual on the blues rock circuit as their albums are made of entirely original material" (oh, really?); "came to national prominence"; "the famous Eel Pie club’s Search for New Blues Talent competition" "one of the most lauded blues rock bands in Britain today" (sez who?), "dynamic energy" "visible warm camraderie" "authentic, traditional blues sound"; and the use of choice favorable pull quotes taken out of context. This is a promotional piece, not an impartial article. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:35, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi there, I've made a few amendments, could you possibly take a look and let me know, if its any better --henrim1980 18:56, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

The references do not directly back up the statements made; you need direct links to pages which make the comments, not just links to the home pages of the publications. If the articles in question are not online, you can provide issue and page numbers. There's still some promotional tone problems, such as this statement:

Their concerts showcase singer Adam Norsworthy's dynamic energy, and often he runs and jumps about the stage throughout each concert, whilst maintaining a visible camaraderie with the other band members

Material which can be seen as interpretive should be avoided unless it can be tied to a source. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 07:59, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Can't add wikilinks under photo at Wake Island Conference

Hello, I'm trying to wikilink the names of the various military officers under the photograph at Wake Island Conference. However, when I do so, it breaks the photo. Is there a trick? (And, can you either perform the edits for me, or can you post a copy of your answer at the talk page of that article?) Thanks JD Caselaw (talk) 12:17, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Your edit [6] was missing a '[' before [Secretary of the Army Frank Pace|Frank Pace]]. 3 of the 4 links would be red so I don't know whether this would be good in a caption. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:32, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

I see Deor has linked the right targets.[7] PrimeHunter (talk) 12:34, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

New and in need of some help with my article

Please can you help me bring my article into shape so that it will be accepted, im told it has a promotional tone to it, please could you take a look at it tell me which bits are creating that tone also I need so help with regards to the reliable sources, how do I show them? henrim1980 13:48, 13th April 2010— Preceding unsigned comment added by Henrim1980 (talk • contribs)

Check out WP:PEACOCK and then look at phrasing like "famous", "most lauded", "visible warm camraderie", and "well received". You have relevant quotes from Musician Magazine, but no citations. See footnotes and WP:CITE for help.--SPhilbrickT 13:14, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

I have now amended the areas I'm told I was falling down in, please could you take a look and tell me what you think--henrim1980 18:24, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Wrong link on http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Portugal

The link to The Portugal News, (General Information, National newspaper in English) has now changed from www.the-news.net to www.theportugalnews.com To verify, please contact <blanked> Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulluckman (talk • contribs)

Please do not include your contact email in your query. If you think that the URL is incorrect, then be bold and correct it yourself. Kayau Voting IS evil 13:43, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Portugal is semi-protected but I see you became autoconfirmed shortly after posting here and have now edited the article yourself. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:09, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Huggle

What is the huggle whitelist? Immunize (talk) (talk) 13:49, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

It's a list of trusted users whose contributions are ignored by Huggle when identifying potential vandalism; you can find it at Wikipedia:Huggle/Whitelist. Gonzonoir (talk) 13:57, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Are all autoconfirmed users on the list, or are only administrators on the list? Immunize (talk) (talk) 14:11, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Huggle/Config says "whitelist-edit-count:500". PrimeHunter (talk) 14:56, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Which would mean all users (that means it excludes IPs) with more than 500 edits. Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 20:05, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Navbox

How can you make a navbox collapsible? 92.28.234.155 (talk) 15:14, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

See the documentation for the state parameter at your navbox link. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:39, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

There isn't one unfortunately, the only code I've got is:

{| style="width:100%; margin-top:1em; border:1px solid #999; font-size:90%; text-align:center;"
|-
! style="background-color:#3366CC; color:#FFFFFF; padding:0.2em 0.5em;" nowrap="nowrap" | {{{header}}}
|-
| style="padding:0.2em 0.5em;" | {{{body}}}
|}

As you can see, only parameters are for the header and the body. 92.28.234.155 (talk) 15:42, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

I assumed you referred to something using Template:Navbox when you linked there in your question. See Help:Collapsing instead. For example:

{{{header}}}
{{{body}}}

Which page do you want to edit and what do you want in the box? It may be better to use Template:Navbox or something else in Category:Navbox (navigational) templates. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:59, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

How can I wikify this page?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziad_Asali

What changes need to be made for it to be wikified?{{subst:unsigned}}

Consult our Manual of Style. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:12, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! I've actually looked over the Manual of Style a few times but can't find exactly what in the article I need to change. Could someone just take a quick look at it? Any advice you can offer is much appreciated.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Yzaerpoor (talk • contribs)

Places need to be wikilinked; the list of television appearances (highly non-encyclopedic) needs to go; the article needs to be stripped of gratuitous honorifics (i.e., "Dr."). Above all, you need actual citations with properly-formatted references. I'll try to help on few of these.--Orange Mike | Talk 18:31, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you Mike. I'll work on those changes over the next couple of days. --Yzaerpoor (talk) 18:44, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

I noticed all of your changes- thank you so much. You made [citation needed] notes for the universities where he's spoken and the different media stations where he's had interviews. Should I add links (as citations) to mentions of the events at each of these institutions?--Yzaerpoor (talk) 19:45, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, see WP:FOOT and WP:CITET in addition to WP:CITE. --Teratornis (talk) 21:02, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Continuous broken images after uploading first one

Resolved

Hey guys,

I just recently opened an account and now have the ability to post images. I've been working on an article (though it's not live yet), and I've been uploading images to my user page in the process. The first image I uploaded was fine, but every single consecutive one has turned out to be a broken image link. As soon as I hit the "upload" button, all I get is a broken link. The original is fine, but the others have never shown up. All of the images (including the first one) are JPEGs and are of similar size, suitable for the size limit.

I've double-checked the file names multiple times. It doesn't bring up an error message saying the file isn't there; the image simply shows up as a broken link. Here's an example:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Garbage_goat.jpg

I tried getting help via the IRC page, and everyone there claimed to see my images, while I do not.

(Just as a disclaimer, not all of my photos have permissions labeled on them, but I'm the process of doing so. Just so you know.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Llwrce/Spokane_Sculpture_Walk

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Llwrce (talk • contribs)

Follow the guidelines and see what happens :) --Lotje (talk) 18:40, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Not very helpful as the images have already been uploaded. I see them just fine in the draft article. Have you tried clearing your cache and/or doing a server purge? – ukexpat (talk) 18:47, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... upon using a different computer they look fine. I'll remember to try clearing my cache next time in case that happens. Thanks.

Bold text problem

Resolved

 – ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 04:33, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

The intro to Steve Reid has a formatting problem, where the bold is seemingly broken. The correct wikimarkup is being used, but not being rendered correctly. Currently, it appears to be rendering as:

'Steve Reid (January 29, 1944...

This edit is where it breaks. I could temporarily fix it by reverting that, but the edit itself was correct. (Someone else has temporarily fixed it with this edit, by adding nowiki tags. But that seems like a non-ideal workaround..?)

Any idea if this is a bug, or what needs to be done? I can escalate to VPT is necessary. Thanks. -- Quiddity (talk) 19:02, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Did this get it? TNXMan 19:15, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

That fixes it visually, but is it correct formatting to have the apostrophe-s in italic? I don't mind either workaround being used, if there is no ideal alternative; but if it's a bug that might effect elsewhere, then perhaps it should be looked at by a dev? -- Quiddity (talk) 19:43, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

I believe it is proper formatting to have the apostrophe-s in italics, but I couldn't point you to a WP page that says that. As for contacting a dev, I think "it's a feature, not a bug©". There is only one character for the apostrophe, however, the same character is also used for italics/bolding. So it's performing as programmed, they just happened to be typed next to each other and cause confusion. TNXMan 19:52, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Edit count

Resolved

 – ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 04:34, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Although the contribution page shows 12,000 edits my preferences page says I have 56 edits. Is this normal for a few days after a username change or is this an odd occurrence? Shannon^talk _contribs 20:46, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Your username is Shannonchan and X!'s edit counter is displaying the edit count for Shannon1. This is probably what you need, although you need to opt-in to see your edit count. TNXMan 20:52, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Whoops ... I forgot to change my sig after I changed my username. And I am Shannon1 because I changed my username recently. Shannon^talk _contribs 23:41, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Can't delete content

Resolved

On the page for film producer Stephen Woolley there's quite a bit of irrelevant info about a film director called Sandro Vakhtangov. I went to remove it but on editing it there's nothing there! Any ideas what's going on? yorkshiresky (talk) 21:08, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

I fixed it. Someone messed up {{Film-bio-stub}} which is transcluded into the article. I reverted the edit and that fixed the problem. ~~ GB fan ~~ ^talk 21:17, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Nice one, thanks for that.yorkshiresky (talk) 21:20, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

That is where the Related changes link in the left toolbox helps. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 21:27, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Gosh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_%28mind_game%29

This is a disgrace. O_O what do I do to delete it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.51.235.51 (talk • contribs)

WP:Articles for Deletion, but WP:IDONTLIKEIT is not a good reason to have something deleted. –Turian (talk) 23:00, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

what do you mean if I don't like it? It's a terribly written article and no one will ever be able to fix it. It's supposed to be a wikipedia article on how some people pretend there's a secret universal game that involves just not thinking about the game. Not written like it actually exists. 216.51.235.51 (talk) 23:20, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Well, feel free to try to improve it if you feel the problem is with the way it's written. As for deletion, it might be worth reading some previous discussions: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Game (game), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Game (game) (2 nomination), Wikipedia:Deletion review/The Game (game), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Game (game) (4th nomination), Wikipedia:Deletion review/The Game (game) (second DRV), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Game (game) (fifth nomination), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Game (game) (6th nomination) and Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2008 March 21, as well as Talk:The Game (mind game). --BelovedFreak 23:28, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Archiving

Resolved

 –  – ukexpat (talk) 01:56, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

I can't get my talk page to archive. If anyone can fix the code, I will owe you 1 internet. Pirate^Argh!!1! 23:22, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

I personally do it manually. And what the hell do you mean by owing me an internet? RaaGgio (talk) 23:31, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

One tube?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:34, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

I thought this would be less work, as I'm lazy. If you don't want the internet, that's fine, but you aren't going to earn any with that attitude. Pirate^Argh!!1! 23:40, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

I don't understand. Is that like an internet-slang term or something? I don't participate much in chats outside of Wikipedia. RaaGgio (talk) 23:46, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

I removed the <!-- --> around the mizabot template. That makes it a comment and the bot won't recognize it. ~~ GB fan ~~ ^talk 23:45, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Are you sure [8] didn't work? User:MiszaBot/config#After you have set up archiving says: "The bot runs once a day at a preset hour, or twice a day for WP:AN and WP:AN/I. Simply wait for the next cycle and you should see the bot's entries in the history list of your article". You commented out the code 2 minutes later so it seems MiszaBot didn't get a chance. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:46, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

yeah, the first time I did it I waited several days (but commented it out ), then I copied someone else's setup and waited. dunno why it didn't work

An "internet" and "series of tubes" are (childish) jokes that I never get sick of. Pirate^Argh!!1! 23:51, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

The first time in your above link you incorrectly set archive = User talk:Example/Archive %(counter)d. User:MiszaBot/config#Parameters explained says about the archive parameter: "the target page must be a subpage of the current page". The second time looked correct but you only waited 2 minutes before commenting out the whole code.[9] MiszaBot cannot find commented out code. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:12, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. Pirate^Argh!!1! 00:18, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Lost login details

My predecessor created an account for Business New Zealand - my employer. There is no record of the login details here at Busienss NZ office and I urgently need to update our deatils which are now way out of date.

Please can anyone help?

Stephanie Moakes —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.54.89.198 (talk)

Err, what? Pirate^Argh!!1! 23:41, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Deja Vu Pirate^Argh!!1! 23:43, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

I guess you refer to User:Voiceof who created Business New Zealand but you are not allowed to use the account per Wikipedia:Sock puppetry#Role accounts. See also Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations if you want to edit about your company. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:58, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Any account or unregistered user is able to edit Business New Zealand. You can create your own account but note the pages I linked. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:01, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Citing Wikipedia in Wikipedia

Is it allowed to cite all or parts of one Wikipedia article to prove information in another Wikipedia article - for example, if I am citing information from the Columbia River article which is a FA? Shannon^talk _contribs 23:42, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

As far as I know, no. Your best bet would be to find the similar ref and cite that. –Turian (talk) 23:44, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Please also see Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources#Primary, secondary, and tertiary sources, WP:CIRCULAR and Circular reference. In short, citing a Wikipedia article to verify information in another is referencing incest. You can, however, cite cited information from another article, using the third party citations the other article uses. --Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:53, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Shannon, Why don't you give a quick look at Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia? ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 04:19, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Submitting my name as an artist

Dear Sirs:

This is the copy I added to Kiwipedia before it was deleted. Please indicate what I need to add or remove before resubmitting my entry. Do I need to be published by any editorial source such as a magazine or newspaper before I can create an entry?

Robol— Preceding unsigned comment added by Robolsound (talk • contribs)

Collapsing for readability

(Mauricio Reyes 1969-) Mauricio Reyes was born in Mexico City in 1969. After many years of collecting music, specially electronic music he discovered a style of music called Concrete Music or Electro-Acoustic Music. As a graphic design student he was fascinated by computer programming and loved the name Cobol. The change of the first letter gave birth to the name "Robol." After many years of listening to experimental music by authors such as Pierre Henry, Iannis Xenakis and Bruno Maderna Robol released a first CD in 2010 called "Musica Metaphysica" Música Metaphysica explores the properties of dissonance and parallel dimensions in sound. Spirit and matter are different states of the same thing—like ice and water. Matter embodies inertia, weight, potential, and darkness. Matter must be imbued with spirit, which is energy, movement, light, and potency. A means of connecting both states is a technique in sound dissonance called Electronic Voice Phenomena (EVP), also known as Instrumental Transcommunication. EVP is utilized to receive messages from beyond this earthbound realm using electronic instrumentation combined with white noise. These instruments can include tape recorders, telephones, answering machines, radios, televisions, or anything else electronic. True white noise (with infinite bandwidth) cannot exist since it has infinite power. White noise is noise in which the intensity of the power spectral density is constant and independent of frequency. It is equivalent to saying that the signal power for a constant bandwidth, centered at frequency 'fo', does not change if 'fo' is varied. Disembodied voices have been heard in the séance rooms of mediums for the past 150 years in the course of modern Spiritualism. The late sitters Betty Greene and George Woods made it their lifetime work to copy their tape recordings of communications in direct voice at Leslie Flint's séance room and make them available for anyone who asked for them. Parts of Música Metaphyisca contain sound clips recorded during séance sessions, hugely amplified.Robolsound (talk) 01:51, 14 April 2010 (UTC) Música Metaphysica takes the listener through different environments and dimensions in sound. The basis of the recording is an artificial audio-redundancy that serves as the vehicle to enter such dimensions. By means of different frequencies and white noise the listener is put in a state of inertia. This state of “sleep” while the listener is awake is similar to the effects of Brion Gysin’s Dreamachine. Thus, Música Metaphysica combines spirit and matter in audible environments. Robol has dedicated Musica Metaphysica to the memory of the late Carl Sagan.

Do you mean Wikipedia or Kiwipedia.com? In any event, it's not written like an encyclopedia article, it's full of peacock terms and other flowery jargon artspeak and it needs references to reliable sources to demonstrate notability. And also read WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY. – ukexpat (talk) 02:05, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

You created it at Robol here at Wikipedia. Kiwipedia is another site not operated by the Wikimedia Foundation which runs Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:48, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh to be able to see deleted contributions! – ukexpat (talk) 03:10, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Then try your luck at RfA! I don't vote or nominate there but it appears you have several nomination offers. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:44, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

References

When trying to add references to an article it always says "Your edit includs new external links". I haven't ran into those ever since I joined Wikipedia almost two years ago. (I recently changed my username and my Preferences section says I have 56 edits while the edit counter page says I have over 12,000.) My username is Shannon1. Shannon^talk _contribs 02:55, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

You might be tripping a filter. If you could mention the article name (any name that you encountered this with) and the reference you were trying to add, it might be helpful. Also, you're right about the strange edit count being displayed. Just for info, your SUL shows that your enwiki account is neither your home account, nor is it attached to the other wikis. Just fyi ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 04:13, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

And it seems your 12000 query has already been handled here. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 04:25, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Some things take time to settle after a user rename. Your user rename was 3.5 days ago and accounts must be at least 4 days old to be autoconfirmed so maybe you are not treated as autoconfirmed when you add external links. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:33, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Account problems

Hi all there. Sorry for the inconvenience, but now, exactly today at 00:16 im stay in front of my pc reinstalling all my O.S. and softwares, with my favorite lists contents - sites, blogs and more, but in my page, in the wikipedia site, my login appear to me with no exist user message, but if i go to new user page, appear other message with "...too similar content with another account... NEO TOM".. ???? What occur with my account? My username was Neotom, and im using this with respect and seeing rules. Im helping with (no mutch, but any) help, reviewing any phrases and words errors, and more. Sorry , my english is poor and no mutch trainning .. rss..

Well, see my user and talk to me what´s the problem with it.

Thanks for listen.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.29.96.166 (talk • contribs)

The user logs show that User:Neo tom was registered at 17:26 on February 28, 2007, does that sound correct? If so, did you add your e-mail address when you registered? If so, you should be able to retrieve your password. There is no account with the name User:Neotom. – ukexpat (talk) 03:32, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Special:EmailUser/Neo tom shows User:Neo tom has email enabled so you can click the "E-mail new password" button at the login screen if you have access to the registered email address. I couldn't find any registered username with a variation of space and capitalization in User:Neo tom. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:22, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

I have a feeling the guy is a prankster. --White Trillium (talk) 04:42, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Image is horribly wrong

Can someone advise what to do about File:AverageIQ-Map-World.png? It's obviously some weird joke, because I can assure you - despite being upside down - the national average IQ of Australia is not 60 points. The blue version it references below seems to be much more accurate (and obviously so). I don't think it's technically CSD, but if someone can nudge me in the right direction? :) — Deon^talk 07:05, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

The image gets its data from a single source, and is used only for illustrative purposes in the article on that very source, Race Differences in Intelligence (book). Its accuracy is thus besides the point, so long as it remains only at that article and any others where the book itself is relevant. Someguy1221 (talk) 07:10, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Bring out Wikipedia in KANNADA Language

Sir/Madam,

Wikipedia is a very useful website and a great knowledge base. It is user-friendly in that people of many languages can use and refer to it in their own language. Many of the Indian Languages are also included. I request you to include KANNADA - a south Indian language and mother-tongue of nearly 60-70 million population- as a language medium to access and learn from Wikipedia.

Thank you

Dr.S.Nagaraj