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* ESA is listed, France is listed, UK is not listed. I understand this as: France has separate capability/launcher program from the ESA launchers. UK has no such separate program. If France has no separate program, but the meaning of listing it there is, because the ESA program has much of its design/manufacturing done in France - I think this should be explicitly mentioned, but also this borders on OR/POV, as somebody has to distinguish "much of" from "small part of" (for example Spain, Germany, other ESA states) - so it would be good if some sources are provided in addition to an explanatory footnote. [[User:Alinor|Alinor]] ([[User talk:Alinor|talk]]) 08:49, 26 September 2010 (UTC) |
* ESA is listed, France is listed, UK is not listed. I understand this as: France has separate capability/launcher program from the ESA launchers. UK has no such separate program. If France has no separate program, but the meaning of listing it there is, because the ESA program has much of its design/manufacturing done in France - I think this should be explicitly mentioned, but also this borders on OR/POV, as somebody has to distinguish "much of" from "small part of" (for example Spain, Germany, other ESA states) - so it would be good if some sources are provided in addition to an explanatory footnote. [[User:Alinor|Alinor]] ([[User talk:Alinor|talk]]) 08:49, 26 September 2010 (UTC) |
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When's the Global Aeronautics and Space Adminstration going to happen? What happens if the Klingons and/or Daleks decide to attack TOMORROW??? We're totally unprepared! |
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But seriously, if Humankind ever did attempt to reach out into the depths of the Solar System and beyond, it surely has to be a global effort. |
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I reckon that Humankind has the wherewithall to launch a probe to Alpha Centuri right now, if it had a mind to do so. Such a probe would HAVE to be launched in the name of all Humanity, wouldn't it...? |
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I don't know what I'm blathering about...an appeal for unity between all nations in scientific endevour, I guess... |
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Budget
The credibility of the budget comparison on the bottom of the page is very low without sources. Sources should be added or the section should be removed. MikkelR 20:22, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Erased publicity for some band
"Artistic space agencies"... erased
This list looks longer...
http://rhea.la.asu.edu/spl/data_resources/space_agencies/
Though it lacks any detailed information.
Another good source. Chadlupkes 03:19, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
Merge duplicate articles
Space Agency and Space agency are duplicate articles, I'll try to merge them later, unless someone wants to do it first. - Rudykog 13:25, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
- Great, right after I merge them, I find that there is a category for space agencies... - Rudykog 19:26, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
- Great work!! Chadlupkes 23:31, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
CSA
Croatian Space Agency, mentioned on the site, is not a space agency, it's rather a some kind of astronomical society. So, it should not be on this list. It's not a government agency. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.198.142.202 (talk) 10:36, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Pakistan Space Program
Removed vandalism.
Israeli 1.25 billion USD budget is ridiculous
This is an overstatement by more than 1000 times. The current budget of the Israeli Space Agency is a bit of one million USD. Themanwithoutapast (talk) 13:21, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
implicit colour scheme
i suppose the colour scheme is implicitly implying that "manned space flight" implies "launch capability" which implies "operates satellites"? perhaps something like "manned space flight + launch capability + operates satellites" would make this explicit. 82.6.96.66 (talk) 10:55, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, that's correct. Thanks for making the correction. Mike Peel (talk) 18:53, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
refs column
i'm not sure the purpose of the Ref(s) column? there is already a website column; if there is a specific fact that should be cited in the table, then shouldn't the citation be next to that fact, rather than in a separate column? the way it is makes it unclear what the references are referencing. 82.6.96.66 (talk) 11:01, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe... I was concerned that it might make the table too messy, with numbers scattered everywhere. Mike Peel (talk) 18:53, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Colour scheme
I don't like the colour scheme for the different capabilities. I think a sortable table with the different options as Yes/No boxes in columns would look a lot nicer. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 10:27, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe. But then the table would be getting rather wide... Mike Peel (talk) 20:02, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- The wikicode is limiting it to 100% of the page. If the country flags were removed, the founded date was only the year, the terminated column (which has very few entries) was removed, and the refs column had no "citation needed" the table could adequately accommodate three new y/n columns. This plan will sacrifice very little info. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 22:40, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Portuguese Spacial Company
This appears to be a link to a medical company in Portugal, should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.148.123.76 (talk) 09:30, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Other Agencies that should be added
ASAL - Algerian Space Agency (fr: Agence Spatiale Algérienne) - http://www.asal-dz.org/ CNT - Tunisian National Centre for Remote Sensing (fr: Centre National de Télédétection) - http://www.cnt.nat.tn/ CRTS - Moroccan Royal Centre for Space Remote Sensing (fr: Centre Royal de Télédétection Spatiale) - http://www.crts.gov.ma/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.148.123.76 (talk) 09:46, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
South Africa
Hi! What about South Africa's Space Agency? --68.239.72.76 (talk) 04:58, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
LOL
Theres some space agencies that need color like Nigeria. Mickman1234 (talk) 07:29, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
I beleive that we should add more space agencies.
we need to add more space agencies, so that we will know what has satilites, operates satalites, space launch capibality, manned space launch and probly moonwalks. Mickman1234 (talk) 15:42, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Mexican Space Agency
I deleted Mexico from the list of agencies with the highest budget (stated as $914 million) because the latest information published suggests that for its first year of operation, it will be assigned between $21 million and $60 million pesos = $1.5 million USD - $4.4 million USD. References: Sep/2008: [1]; Nov/2008: [2].
- The Mexican Space Agency (AEXA) does not exist. According to the official website of the Mexican Government: The Mexican Space Agency (AEXA) is in the process of being formed. It's expected that the end of the year the Mexican Senate make a final decision on this matter, so that the organisation obtains legal status. Consequently, we reiterate that it is still not possible to refer to AEXA as a legal entity as the agency as such does not yet exist. For this same reason no one has assumed any position inside AEXA and no one can claim that they are included in its budget.SEE REFERENCE
- So stop adding AEXA to the list of space agencies. Limongi (talk) 14:15, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
It was approved on November 04, 2008... the deletion is in regards to the budget... not the agency itself... see sources for your self. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AEXA
- The bill creating AEXA was approved by the Mexican Senate. But it still needs a confirmation vote in the Chamber of Deputies and an eventual proclamation by President Felipe Calderón in order to be created. So it doesn't yet exist. Ref When, and if, it comes to exist, then it shall be added to the article - as this article is about current space agencies. Limongi (talk) 19:05, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
As of 27 February 2009 the Mexican Space Agency does not exist and has never existed, but two users: BatteryIncluded and Jesusmariajalisco keep asserting the contrary using a fan site and an incomplete article from a newspaper that reports the results of a vote in the Mexican Senate (not about its creation). While we have provided plenty of evidence, they keep ignoring it, and have gone as far as giving it an official budget, an official logo (taken from a fan site's online contest) and even a date of creation.
Unfortunately, since the initiative has never left the Congress, most of the evidence is in Spanish except for a NASA status report dated 21 Feb 2009:
- The official Gazette of the Mexican Senate from 26 February 2009, encouraging the appropriate commissions on the lower chamber to approve the initiative and present it to the Chamber for a general vote: senado.gob.mx
- A press conference given on 26 February 2009 where they clearly state that the initiative was sent back to the Chamber of Deputies: senado.gob.mx
- A press article published today, 27 february 2009: "Llama Castellón a evitar que Agencia Especial Mexicana se pierda en archiveros de la Cámara de Diputados" Periodico Express
- A status report from Steven Gonzalez, Deputy, Advanced Planning Office of NASA, dated 21 February 2009: "our own astronaut, Jose Hernandez is working on a proposal with Mexico to establish Agencia Espacial Mexicana (Mexican Space Agency)." SpaceRef
- An article from El Universal from 4 November 2008: "El dictamen pasa a la Cámara de Diputados para que siga el procedimiento de análisis, discusión y en su caso aprobación, para posteriormente poder ser publicada por el Poder Ejecutivo si es que no hay cambios al dictamen enviado por el Senado." El Universal
- An article about the vote in the Senate (from 4 Nov 2008): La minuta fue devuelta a la Cámara de Diputados, en virtud de que sufrió cambios con relación a como había llegado de esa colegisladora. En caso de que los diputados ratifiquen las modificaciones, el decreto será turnado al Ejecutivo para su publicación en el Diario Oficial de la Federación. Crónica
If needed, I can add dozens more. Their claims are absolutely ridiculous. - José Gnudista (talk) 10:04, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
- If you think the newspapers are creating a hoax, take it to them. BatteryIncluded (talk) 16:10, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
- The newspapers aren't creating a hoax, you are the one. The only newspaper you are using is El Universal which, in case you missed it in the list I published above, asserts that the initiative was sent back to the Chamber of Deputies! Exactly what part of "El dictamen pasa a la Cámara de Diputados para que siga el procedimiento de análisis, discusión y en su caso aprobación, para posteriormente poder ser publicada por el Poder Ejecutivo si es que no hay cambios al dictamen enviado por el Senado." is the one that you don't understand? El Universal. And by the way, your second "reference" (the fansite) has published, as of 27 February 2009, "A call to avoid losing the Mexican Space Agency in the files of the Chamber of Deputies" ("Llamado a evitar que AEXA se pierda en archivos de Cámara de Diputados") [3] You have no sources whatsoever. - José Gnudista (talk) 20:32, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
- The entry is referenced and it comes down to your Point of View against Wikipedia's policies. Good luck. BatteryIncluded (talk) 02:47, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
- Wikipedia policies request material to be referenced, in short: that an authoritative third-party supports your exact claim, not to attach two links and claim whatever you want. - José Gnudista (talk) 03:19, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Request for comment on the legal status of the Mexican Space Agency
The Mexican Space Agency is a proposed federal authority contained in an initiative that is getting favorable votes in the Mexican Congress but is still under discussion (it was modified and sent back to the originating chamber). Two users (BatteryIncluded and Jesusmariajalisco) insist that, if an initiative is approved in the Senate, the institution is created automatically and provide no reference at all about such theory, just a pair of links that reports on the result of a vote. References on the contrary are provided above the RFC. - José Gnudista (talk) 03:22, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
- The Agencia Espacial Mexicana article covers the status of the proposal fine. And it is prima facie absurd to argue that a legislative proposal which hasn't yet completed its course constitutes the actual creation of an agency. Even when it is, it'll require executive action. It is not unusual for legislative initiatives to be approved, but never put into effect. Put it this way - if/when the proposal is passed, we can say that for an agency like this, until it has an official website, it doesn't really exist. Rd232 talk 14:08, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Four separate tables instead of one
Please have a look at the following proposed changes. By using four separate tables instead of one, according to the level of achievements of each space agencies, this will provide a clearer and faster picture to the readers. The previous table was overloaded and confusing while containing less information.
List of space agencies capable of conducting intermediate space activities | |||||||||||
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Space agency | Country | Founded | Terminated | Ref(s) | Capabilities of the space agency | ||||||
Name | Acronym | Launch capable | Multiple Satellites Launch capable | Operates Extraterrestrial Probe | Recoverable Satellites capable | ||||||
China National Space Administration (Chinese: 中华人民共和国国家航天局) |
CNSA | People's Republic of China | 22 April 1993 | — | [7] | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | ||
European Space Agency (French: Agence spatiale européenne) (German: Europäische Weltraumorganisation) |
ESA ASE |
31 May 1975 | — | [10][11] | Yes | Yes | Yes | No | |||
Iranian Space Agency (Persian: سازمان فضایی ایران) |
ISA | Iran | 2004 | [citation needed] | Yes | No | No | No | |||
Israeli Space Agency (Hebrew: סוכנות החלל הישראלית) (Arabic: وكالة الفضاء الإسرائيلية) |
ISA סל"ה |
Israel | April 1983 | — | [citation needed] | Yes | No | No | No | ||
Indian Space Research Organization (Hindi: भारतीय अंतरिक्ष अनुसंधान संगठन) |
ISRO इसरो |
India | August 15, 1969 | — | [citation needed][5] | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | ||
Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (Japanese: 宇宙航空研究開発機構) |
JAXA |
Japan | October 1, 2003 | — | [13][citation needed] | Yes | Yes | Yes | No | ||
National Aeronautics and Space Administration | NASA | United States | 1 October 1958 | — | [16] | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | ||
National Center of Space Research (French: Centre National d'Études Spatiales) |
CNES | France | 19 December 1961 | — | [citation needed] | Yes | No | No | No | ||
National Space Agency of Ukraine (Ukrainian: Національне космічне агентство України) (Russian: Национальное космическое агентство Украины) |
NSAU НКАУ НКАУ |
Ukraine | 2 March 1992 | — | [citation needed] | Yes | Yes | No | No | ||
Russian Federal Space Agency (Russian: Федеральное космическое агентство) |
RSA РКА |
Russia | c.1992 | — | [citation needed] | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | ||
Soviet space program (Russian: Советская космическая программа) |
СССР | Soviet Union | c.1955 | c. 1991 | [citation needed] | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
List of space agencies capable of conducting advanced space activities | |||||||||||||
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Space agency | Country | Founded | Terminated | Ref(s) | Capabilities of the space agency | ||||||||
Name | Acronym | Manned Spaceflight capable | Spacewalk capable | Space Rendezvous and Docking capable | Operates Space Station | ||||||||
China National Space Administration (Chinese: 中华人民共和国国家航天局) |
CNSA | People's Republic of China | 22 April 1993 | — | [7] | Yes | Yes | No | No | ||||
National Aeronautics and Space Administration | NASA | United States | 1 October 1958 | — | [16] | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | ||||
Russian Federal Space Agency (Russian: Федеральное космическое агентство) |
RSA РКА |
Russia | c.1992 | — | [citation needed] | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | ||||
Soviet space program (Russian: Советская космическая программа) |
СССР | Soviet Union | c.1955 | c. 1991 | [citation needed] | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
List of space agencies capable of conducting most advanced space activities | |||||||||||||
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Space agency | Country | Founded | Terminated | Ref(s) | Capabilities of the space agency | ||||||||
Name | Acronym | Unmanned Moon Landing capable | Circumlunar Manned Spaceflight capable | Manned Moon Landing capable | Operates Moon Base | ||||||||
National Aeronautics and Space Administration | NASA | United States | 1 October 1958 | — | [16] | No | Yes | Yes | No | ||||
Soviet space program (Russian: Советская космическая программа) |
СССР | Soviet Union | c.1955 | c. 1991 | [citation needed] | Yes | No | No | No |
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Soviet Space Agency
There seems to be a question as to whether the Mexican Space Agency should be listed or not, which hinges on the fact that while it is in the process of being set up, it does not currently exist. Why therefore is the Soviet Space Agency listed? The Soviet Space Agency does not exist anymore. It is important to have the agency listed as a historical agency, but if this page is only about current agencies, then the Soviet Space agency should not be listed. 68.148.123.76 (talk) 07:27, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
The budget numbers for European countries include both their ESA budget contribution and their own budget
For instance Germany contributes about 50% of its total budget to ESA and uses the rest for its own programs. A comment should be added to that effect.Themanwithoutapast (talk) 19:43, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- I know. The ESA portion should not be included in the country. Otherwise, this screws up the total. I have posted a few reliable resources in the section. Can someone verify? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.65.20.251 (talk) 02:38, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
ASI´s Budget
According to ASI´s page in wikipedia the budget of the italian space agency is $978 million, so it should be below India and China.--88.26.57.82 (talk) 01:11, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
private space companies?
Maybe we should compile a similar list with capabilities of private space companies? Alinor (talk) 12:56, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
PLEASE
There needs to be more info on space agencies :) Mickman1234 (talk) 06:22, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
some idiot
they listed as nasa currently operating a moon base, break out the tin foil hats. I corrected it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.61.204.112 (talk) 09:06, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
okay up date is needed
China has an astronaut and has launched a rocket and it's astronaut into space, so the info. needs to be up dated. Arizona86002 (talk) 15:44, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Astronauts
The classification of "Capabilities of the space agency - Astronauts" appears highly inconsistent. Some countries are listed "yes" whose nationals have only been trained and flown on other agencies programmes. In some cases even selected by other programmes but not yet flown and so that nation doesn't even have any actual astronauts yet.
For example Denmark and India. As far as I can make out no Dane has yet gone into space, but one was recently selected as a candidate by ESA's EAC. He isn't yet an astronaut and there is no certainty he will go into space. Similarly India's only astronauts so far have been a Russian-trained fighter pilot and a dual-national in Nasa's astronaut programme. These are just examples of what I mean, it applies for a number of other agencies listed as "yes".
But on the flip-side there have been a number of British-American astronauts who joined Nasa's programme, A British astronaut candidate recently selected by ESA just like the Dane and even a private citizen trained and launched by the Soviets. And yet it isn't listed. Again this is an example, if the requirement is simply for that nation to have or perhaps sometime in the future have an astronaut many more agencies should be included which aren't.
Also, while I can see that the ESA members that had their own astronaut corps are listed while those that didn't aren't, the ones that did don't now because those functions were transferred to the EAC so they don't have such "capability". And as I've already said this is inconsistent because other agencies are listed which never trained any of their own astronauts anyway. So either all ESA member agencies who have had astronauts should be listed or none of them.
As the category is "capabilities of a space agency", It doesn't really make any sense to include agencies that cannot currently at least train their own astronauts. Any agency can pay for their nationals to be trained by another country's agency, or have had their nationals (or more usually joint-nationals) fly as an astronaut in another space programme. To have astronaut capability should really only apply to agencies that can at least fully train them, if not actually launch them, as that is the only real distinction that implies any real capability. ChiZeroOne (talk) 03:22, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- I agree. About ESA - same for launch capability - see below. Alinor (talk) 08:49, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
Launch capable agencies (Iran, ESA)
- Iran is missing, but it is properly listed here.
- ESA is listed, France is listed, UK is not listed. I understand this as: France has separate capability/launcher program from the ESA launchers. UK has no such separate program. If France has no separate program, but the meaning of listing it there is, because the ESA program has much of its design/manufacturing done in France - I think this should be explicitly mentioned, but also this borders on OR/POV, as somebody has to distinguish "much of" from "small part of" (for example Spain, Germany, other ESA states) - so it would be good if some sources are provided in addition to an explanatory footnote. Alinor (talk) 08:49, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
GASA
When's the Global Aeronautics and Space Adminstration going to happen? What happens if the Klingons and/or Daleks decide to attack TOMORROW??? We're totally unprepared! But seriously, if Humankind ever did attempt to reach out into the depths of the Solar System and beyond, it surely has to be a global effort. I reckon that Humankind has the wherewithall to launch a probe to Alpha Centuri right now, if it had a mind to do so. Such a probe would HAVE to be launched in the name of all Humanity, wouldn't it...? I don't know what I'm blathering about...an appeal for unity between all nations in scientific endevour, I guess... 82.5.68.95 (talk) 05:29, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
- ^ Besser, Bruno (2004). "Austria's History in Space" (PDF). pp. 25–28.
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- ^ "Press release from Venezuela's space agency citing presidency decree directing to incorporate the space agency". Retrieved 2008-11-27.
- ^ "Presidency of Brazil: Law 8.854 of 02/10/1994 - "That creates the Brazilian Space Agency, and other measures"". Retrieved 2008-04-06.
- ^ Bulgarian Aerospace Agency (BASA) was founded in 1993 and the Bulgarian State is its member from the year of foundation. [6]
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- ^ a b JAXA official site "JAXA HISTORY". Retrieved 2006-12-05.
- ^ "朝鲜宣布发展太空计划抗衡"西方强权"". 民族网. 2009-02-08. Retrieved February 26th 2009.
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- ^ About NSPO/Heritage
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