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July 24

List of reptiles of Minnesota table sorting

Why are the tables (specific columns: Inches and Centimeters) at List of reptiles of Minnesota, under the "Snakes" header, sorting improperly? Albacore (talk) 01:08, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

I believe it goes by the digits listed. Ergo, to sort it properly, all columns need equal digits - which means some columns need leading digits. I added these in this edit, which now makes it sort correctly, however it is a little unsightly. I believe there is a more elegant fix, however I can't remember it at the moment. ^Avic_ennasis @ 03:09, 22 Tamuz 5771 / 24 July 2011 (UTC)

The other possibility is that it doesn't see the numbers as numbers, due to the hyphen - you could try separate columns for Min/Max length and just use numbers there (Which might allow proper sorting without a leading zero.) ^Avic_ennasis @ 03:17, 22 Tamuz 5771 / 24 July 2011 (UTC)

I have hidden the leading zeros with {{hs}}.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 03:28, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

I want to start a section of pages on Crosman Air Guns and Airsoft Guns and I was wondering if there is a template for that and am also wondering how I would create a page.

The above sentence is long, but I need a good amount of information on how to do this. I have the knowledge and have improved a previous page to a degree : Crosman P9 Airsoft Pistol but do not know how to create a page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Turtletechy (talk • contribs) 03:31, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Starting with WP:Your first article is probably a good idea. Dismas|^(talk) 03:33, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Crosman could certainly use some work. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 20:27, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles are not appearing at Special:NewPages

My last two have not appeared at Special:NewPages. Even if you do this search, the articles are not found. The articles are HMS Doterel (1880) and Allen Morris (tennis). I created them both in my userspace draft, could that have anything to do with it? Should I bring them to requests for feedback? Ryan Vesey Review me! 03:49, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

That'll do it. Both pages are in Special:NewPages for you, alright, albeit under Userspace. ^Avic_ennasis @ 05:55, 22 Tamuz 5771 / 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Ahh, is it supposed to be like that? I wish there was some way that will still get the pages sent to new pages. Ryan Vesey Review me! 09:45, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

I think it's an "undocumented feature"! I think it only shows up in New Pages if the page has never existed anywhere - if it was created as "x" and then moved to "y" then the "x" page is new, but the "y" page is not because it already existed, albeit at another location. As far as I am aware, there's no way round this without creating the new article through cut&paste rather than moving, and that causes history/attribution loss -- PhantomSteve.alt/talk\^{[alternative account of Phantomsteve]} 09:56, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)/Archive 4#New Page Patrol - moved from subpage / redirects for a recent discussion which could only refer to a feature request. If you are the only contributor then you are allowed to copy-paste. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:07, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

The time of the Lynyrd Skynyrd plane crash as reported in the biographie of Billy Powell.

In the Billy Powell biography the date of the fatal plane crash involving the Lynyrd Skynyrd band, the date of the crash is stated to be 3 days after the release of the album, in fact it was in August after the release of the Album, several months later. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.120.36.88 (talk) 04:11, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Do you have a source for that? Street Survivors says the album was released October 17, 1977, and Ronnie Van Zant and the bios of the other victims say they died October 20, 1977. —teb728 t c 05:47, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Numerous essentially indisputable reliable sources confirm the October 20, 1977 date of the crash (see e.g., [2], [3] and [4]) so the question is do you have a source for the release of the album showing it was a few months before? Note that this article says that the crash took place after the album had "just been released".--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:06, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Aha. This interview has Skynyrd's guitarist reporting in an interview on October 2, 1977 that Sole Survivors had not yet been released so, while this does not onfirm the "3 days after" information to a tee, your assertion is plainly incorrect.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:13, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

William Jennings Bryan

The reference in the article to Dayton should specify Dayton, Tennessee04:41, 24 July 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.118.28.181 (talk)

Thanks for pointing that out. I fixed it. —teb728 t c 05:33, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Image not visible in infobox

Resolved

For some reason, I am not able to view the image in the infobox in University of Lahore. This happens regardless of whether the image is png or jpg. Am I doing something wrong? Any help appreciated! Lynch7 14:08, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

It's been fixed. Infoboxes are unfortunately inconsistent in whether they need the full image syntax or just the image name. {{infobox university}} allows either, but they go in different parameters: |image= is for the full syntax, |image_name= for just the image name. So, you could have put |image_name=University of Lahore logo2.jpg. --Redrose64 (talk) 14:38, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Lotje and Redrose64; I was indeed confused between image_name and image parameters. Lynch7 14:47, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

template for remember mediation

I want to inform in a talk page about mediations regarding an issue. This template shold not be archived in order to keep the information for other editors. Sometime I saw such a template. Do you know it?. --Keysanger (what?) 17:15, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Depending on what you mean exactly, it may be {{Mediated}}, {{Mediation request}}, or {{Mediation}}. These are designed for article talk pages or the articles themselves (or subsections of it). If you meant a user talk page, I suggest you simply tell them about it.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 21:21, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Noah Wylie

Need to know if Noah Wylie plans to do anymore Librarian films.. I have worked in the media for many years and think this series had a bit of everything; James bond, Indiana Jones, the History Channel, romance, action, adventure....etc.. and he was the pyramid of all this. Can't seem to find anywhere where I can reach him or find out.. I figured if anyone knew it would be your people.. thanks, (Redacted) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.96.38.208 (talk) 19:38, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Have you tried the Entertainment section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:20, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Adding external links to multiple pages (not spamming)

I am adding an external link to the website for the Bare Knuckle Boxing Hall of Fame on the pages of all of the boxers that have been inducted. I got a warning about multiple external links being considered spam. Can I proceed? Should I only do a few at a time? what is the limit? Thanks! Im4bath (talk) 19:59, 24 July 2011 (UTC)im4bath

Hello. We will be able to help you better if you could specify which external links you are try to contribute and to what articles you plan to do so. That way we can confirm or deny your claim that your links are not spam. Happy editing, hajatvrc with WikiLove @ 20:23, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Why do you wish to add this particular link? Your every contribution has been to add a link to this site to multiple articles, this would appear to be spamming. If you are using it as a source you should bring it up at our reliable sources noticeboard to determine if the source is a reliable source and usable. Rehevkor ✉ 20:31, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

You should also bring this up at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Boxing and start a discussion on whether this award/hall of fame is notable enough for inclusion, you should not be inserting these links without consensus. Rehevkor ✉ 20:36, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Is there a special page to store private notes ?

Is there a special/ordinary page for user's personal use only like the one 'My watchlist'?? By saying "personal use", I mean to store some important notes for future use like to do list, future re-search plan etc. The user page is viewable to all it cant hold personal elements. Existing special pages like 'My watchlist' is not fully editable. Only the list can be edited. Theres no place to mark a page how much important is it for me or to make a footnote about the page. D!p 20:08, 24 July 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by D!p.computing (talk • contribs)

What you are describing is exactly what user pages are for. They cannot be made private, in the sense of others not being able to view them, but they they are generally "private", in the sense that others will not normally edit your user page except to remove improper material (e.g., a fair use image used outside the mainspace) or to revert vandalism by third-parties. You can also start subpages which are seen far less than even your userpage, though they are technically just as public. They have the advantage that you can research and write an article there at your leisure before moving it to the mainspace. If you really need a privately viewable document, then a text document of some sort stored on your hard drive is the place to keep it. You can always drop the text onto a Wikipedia page and hit preview to check if your formatting is working.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:29, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

As you probably already realized, be careful what you place in your userpages. Do not place personally identifying or sensitive information unless you fully understand the consequences of doing so. See Wikipedia:Wikipedia is in the real world and Wikipedia:On privacy, confidentiality and discretion. And yes, like Fuhgettaboutit says, what you described are usually what user pages are for. Most users (including me) use userpages for frequently used templates, notes on articles they are working on or planning to work on, drafts, experiments on formatting, links to commonly used sources, and other useful things for editing (See Wikipedia:User pages). Even if you don't actually 'own' it, as long as you aren't breaking any rules, no one will usually touch it for etiquette reasons (See Wikipedia:Etiquette).

If you wanted something more private, however, I recommend you do it off-site or offline. Bookmarking the articles and jotting down notes in pen and paper or a text-editing program usually works just as well.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 20:54, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

You can mark a page as "important for me", of course - with a note at the top, or use an {{mbox}} or something. But everyone will be able to see it, and edit it too.

That concept often seems odd to new users, but once you embrace the idea, it all kinda works. For example, I have User:Chzz/note which is just my own scratch-pad of reminders - anyone can see it; anyone could change it, but I'd probably just change it back.

Once you accept the 'openness', it's all rather nice, really.

For anything actually private though - it's best to just use a text note file on your own computer, or something like that; don't put private things on the wiki. And don't put your shopping list on either, or it'll get deleted as WP:NOTWEBHOST.  Chzz  ►  11:48, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

C-grade movies

i want to work in c grade movies can u tell me how i can join my e mail address is (Redacted) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.179.83.75 (talk) 21:03, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Can you clarify the question? Work in actual C-grade movies or work on articles about C-grade movies?-- Obsidi♠n Soul 21:09, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

I think actual movies, so I will respond accordingly: I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. An editor since 10.28.2010. 04:03, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Photographer credit in photo caption

Do we have a policy about whether we should or (I'm guessing this one) shouldn't credit the photographer in image captions? Saw one added to Olivia Bonilla. doomgaze (talk) 22:17, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Captions#Credits seems to cover that. Shouldn't be necessary. Rehevkor ✉ 22:30, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

But please see the current debate over image attribution at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Attribution of images.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:06, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

July 25

Mobile Wikipedia

I accidentally changed my mobile Wikipedia on my phone to the regular Wikipedia (like on a computer). How do I change it back to the mobile version? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.137.143.251 (talk) 02:48, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

If you go to Wikipedia:Enable mobile version on your mobile device and click on the link there, you will re-enable the mobile version. doomgaze (talk) 02:51, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Welcoming Template

Hello, can someone post a welcoming template onto my talk page? Thank you. -- 7D HMS (talk) 03:28, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

 Done Dismas|^(talk) 03:48, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Navbox with collapsible groups liststyle not working

Resolved

I have formated {{Time 100s}} using {{Navbox with collapsible groups}} but the liststyle parameter is not working for the background color, font color or spacing symbols.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:10, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

It is working, but only the "color:white;" part is effective, because the "background:red;" is overridden by the class="navbox-list navbox-even" or class="navbox-list navbox-odd" which are applied to the individual navbox rows. These force other background colours - white for odd rows, light grey for even rows.

As a side issue, I don't think that the {{•wrap}} which appears in the |belowstyle= is a good idea - try a # instead. I have fixed a <font /> which should have been </font>. --Redrose64 (talk) 12:50, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

If you add | liststyle = background: Red;color:white; as an explicit parameter to the two calls to {{Navbox subgroup}}, you can override the class="navbox-list navbox-even" or class="navbox-list navbox-odd". This gives you white dots and blue text links against a red background. Don't do it, it looks hideous! -- John of Reading (talk) 13:00, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

I am not trying to change the background and text of the list but of the row headings. How do I do that?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:03, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

As above, apply parameters to the {{navbox subgroup}}. The primary style for the |groupn= (where n is an integer in the range 1-20) comes from |groupstyle= - this supplements (and may override) |basestyle=. If special styling is desired for individual rows, |groupnstyle= may be used. For the |listn= the primary style comes from |liststyle=, which may be overridden for odd and even rows by the use of |oddstyle= and |evenstyle=, or for individual rows by |listnstyle=. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:22, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

I have tried list1style = background: Red;color:white; and group1style = background: Red;color:white; to get the row headings to have red backgrounds with white text and neither has worked. I am not sure what I am misunderstanding.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:51, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Did you ensure that the parameter was placed inside each relevant {{Navbox subgroup}}? If it's inside the {{Navbox with collapsible groups}} but outside the {{Navbox subgroup}}s it may not have the full intended effect. --Redrose64 (talk) 17:18, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Are you trying to change the colour of the year-by-year links? They are red because they are links to articles that don't exist. I don't think that can be changed by setting navbox styles. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:25, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Finally got it.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:35, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

How do I submit a new article

i Have written a new article in my user space and want to submit it to wikipedia. As a new user I don't seem to be able to do this. How do I do this/request that this is done? Thanks Baby.seagull (talk) 10:25, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

I suggest that you read the 2 useful links at the top of your article: So you made a userspace draft and Requests for feedback. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:32, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Standard advice follows:

A Wizard is available to walk you through these steps. See the Article Wizard.

Thank you.

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines with which all articles should comply. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article. You might also look at Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An Article Wizard is also available to walk you through creating an article.Template:Z26 – ukexpat (talk) 14:33, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Ritu Beri

The wiki article on Ritu Beri is incomplete. Ritu married an NRI and went to UK in the eightees. She had a bitter divorce and returned to India in mid-ninetees. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.99.186.113 (talk) 11:42, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

• Ritu Beri (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

You could add information yourself, as long as you have reliable sources for the info (e.g. books, newspapers) - but do be careful to reference everything - see WP:BLP.

For the facts you said above...how can we prove they're true? It'd need a very good reference; it has to be verifiable.

Alternatively, you could make suggestions on the discussion page, Talk:Ritu Beri.  Chzz  ►  11:53, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Format of links to items on other Wikimedia Project sites

What is the correct way to format a link to items on Wikibooks, WikiSource, Commons, Wiktionary, etc.? Roger (talk) 12:21, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

It depends on what you want to do but in general, just like regualr links we have starting and ending doubled bracket. Inside you place the name of the other project (certain shortcuts can also be used), followed by a colon, then the exact title there, then a pipe ("|") followed by what you want the link to display as. So, for example, to link to Wiktionary's entry for callipygian, you would type [[wiktionary:callipygian|callipygian]] or [[wikt:callipygian|callipygian]]. See Help:Interwiki linking. Note also that there are templates to display a notice in articles that announce that another project has material on a subject. See Category:Interwiki link templates.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:43, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Roger (talk) 13:31, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Question

Do you, by chance know - (Redacted)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pindrum (talk • contribs) 13:46, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25-- Obsidi♠n Soul 14:00, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Pesquisa Sobre a família Nolêto em Pontremolli

Gostaria de saber, se existem alguns membros da família nolêto em Pontremolli, região de Fivizzano, Lucca, Carrara. Será possível obter essa informação, o mais rápido possível? fico aguardando.

João Lourenço Batista Nolêto — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.42.3.168 (talk) 15:11, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Hello. Your question seems to be related to one of our sister projects. Please note that you are at the English Wikipedia, one of hundreds of projects hosted by the Wikimedia Foundation. Each project is operated independently of one another, including Wikipedias in other languages. This page is a help desk for asking questions related to using this wiki, so we may be unable to assist in matters concerning other Wikimedia projects. You may have more luck trying to find help at the project in question. Best of luck. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:27, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Esta página é para dúvidas sobre a utilização da Wikipedia. Por favor, considere fazer esta pergunta na Wicipedia:Y Ddesg Gyfeirio. Eles são especializados em questões de conhecimentos e vai tentar responder a qualquer pergunta no universo (exceto como usar Wikipedia, pois é isso que este é para Help Desk). Basta seguir o link, selecione a seção apropriada, e perguntar de distância. Você pode sempre tentar pesquisar Wikipedia para um artigo relacionado com o tema você quer saber mais sobre. Espero que isso ajude. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 17:10, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

I don't think there's a lot of point in directing a Portuguese speaker to the Reference desk on the Welsh Wikipedia! So I've struck the link out above. I haven't been able to find a Reference Desk on the Portuguese Wikipedia: it looks to me as if there isn't one. --ColinFine (talk) 18:41, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

How about pt:Wikipédia:Contato/Fale com a Wikipédia? --Redrose64 (talk) 19:02, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Well the question still seems to be a knowledge question though and I don't know how the volunteers at the portuguese help desk generally deal with that. Still he or she might have better chances to be directed to the right spot there. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 19:12, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Running the above question through Google translate gives "I wonder if there are some family members in Pontremolli Nolet, Fivizzano region, Lucca, Carrara. Is it possible to get this information as soon as possible? I'm waiting." It would appear that the IP is asking a genealogy-related question. Mjroots (talk) 21:26, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Adding copyrights/source information to a logo or image

I am trying to prevent an image of the company logo from being taken down, I have the source information and a statement for the logo. The logo currently is a registered trademark, and I have a document allowing me to upload the logo. I'm not sure how to add this information to the uploaded image template, please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crisscutfries (talk • contribs) 15:40, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

See WP:IOWN for more information. --Jayron32 15:56, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Exhaust gas emission

Some countries are now measuring gas emissions in G/KM. Would appreciate if one of your contributors would advise names of manufacturers of emission control equipments giving results in G/KM. Thanking you for your help.

Clovis Provencal Mauritius — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clopro (talk • contribs) 16:59, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps.Template:Z37 – ukexpat (talk) 17:52, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Article

I plan on creating an article on the Chohan family murders, that occurred in the UK on 2003. However, i am not completely certain that it meets the notability criteria. Here are the sources i plan on using. Any opinions? Joyson Noel ^{Holla at me!} 17:06, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

The sources at User talk:Joyson Noel/Chohan family murders look very good in my opinion. I see you also started a draft at User:Joyson Noel/Chohan family murders. Once you have developed your draft further and want additional feedback, you can list your draft at Wikipedia:Requests for feedback. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 17:21, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm a bit paranoid about it getting nominated for deletion later, thereby rendering my time and efforts wasted. As such, i would greatly appreciate further opinions regarding the event's notability. Joyson Noel ^{Holla at me!} 17:25, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

I haven't looked at every single of your sources, but the ones I looked at seem to support your article idea. However, it will be easier to comment if you had already written something. Nobody will delete the draft from your userspace, as long as it is not a clear copyright violation or a clear violation of one of the points at Wikipedia:User pages#What may I not have in my user pages?. See also Wikipedia:Your first article for a guide on writing an article. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 17:49, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

The sources look very good, I don't think you should encounter a problem. That many sources might not be enough if you were trying to write a bio, as a violation of WP:BLP1E, but you are writing about the event, so you shouldn't have a problem. As an aside, make sure to explain the term "supergrass" as I doubt many readers outside the UK will know the term.--SPhilbrickT 17:56, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the helpful comments, gentlemen! Joyson Noel ^{Holla at me!} 06:50, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Need a review for my article

Hi. I have written the article Stijn Van Cauter in my own userspace and then moved it after it has reached an "okay" size. Please review the article and remove the "Unreviewed article" template if you find it fine. Sentient Planet (talk) 17:55, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

I am not convinced that he meets the notability guidelines at WP:MUSIC. – ukexpat (talk) 17:59, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps you are not familier with him, but he is a very prominent artist, and somewhat a celebrity, in the doom metal scene. Virtually any metal website will have some acknowledgement of him (perhaps under some of his aliases. He has so many that it's possible you'll only find "Until Death Overtakes Me" as that's his most notable one). Sentient Planet (talk) 19:29, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

In the absence of significant coverage in reliable sources he does not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. – ukexpat (talk) 13:12, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Infoboxes, what is going on?

I was trying to expand the article Feed (Grant novel), and the first thing I thought it needed was an infobox.

So I went and grabbed a book infobox from another article to get the structure, and replaced all the content bits. But when I previewed that, it just showed the raw code. You can see what I mean in my userspace here: User:Gnfnrf/Feed.

I am stumped as to why it isn't doing its magic thing where it makes with the infoboxing. I thought that just happened, and despite doing a lot of editing, I've never really learned much about the process. I feel like I'm missing something simple and important, but I can't figure out what.

So, the questions are, I suppose: What's going on, how do I fix it, and how stupid will I feel when I learn what I did wrong? gnfnrf (talk) 19:16, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

I've fixed the syntax error. I can't predict how you will feel about it, though. A proper software environment would have told you what was wrong, of course. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:24, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. That's actually not as bad (from my stupidity perspective) as I feared. I was imagining the answer was something like "Silly editor, only Glooberwatsit class articles can have templates, and this is a Shitzerpiggle!" meaning some basic concept existed about templates and infoboxes that I had never heard of. This is just a typo. I make typoes all the time. I probably would have found it eventually, but I didn't even consider that a typo in the box could break the entire thing like that. gnfnrf (talk) 19:47, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Image Dump from Suisun Bay, west coast US Mothball Fleet, USS Iowa, pics taken yesterday

Hi, I have several dozen pictures such as this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1832211/suisun%20bay%20sample.JPG

And this, the image at the bottom (could someone better integrate it, please): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Green_Mountain_State_%28T-ACS-9%29

All relevant to this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suisun_Bay_Reserve_Fleet

Taken yesterday, while on a day cruise on the SS Jeremiah O'Brien. Our ship was about 150 feet away from the parked ships which may be unusual because ships and boats generally must remain 500 feet away, so these may be somewhat unique photos. In addition, the ships pictured are all scheduled to be scrapped within a year or two.

I've also got some very nice close-ups of the current state of the USS Iowa (BB-61) which is scheduled to be converted into a museum ship in LA - rent-a-cop and port-a-poty clearly visible on the deck, along with "Keep Back 500 Feet", and many more.

How crazy should I go with adding those current images to the article about Suisun Bay Reserve Fleet and about the various ships themselves? Should I simply upload all of them to wikimedia commons, and leave it to the Naval enthusiasts to integrate them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Earthpig (talk • contribs) 19:27, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

• You can definitely upload them to Commons. If you want to add them to individual ship pictures yourself, Wikipedia:Picture tutorial should help. If you would like other people to add them to appropriate articles; then you should perhaps notify relevant WikiProjects. Since these are all warships, a good place to start may be Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history which is a very active WikiProject. Just drop a note on their talk pages letting them know which files you uploaded to Commons, and they may very well have something useful to do with them. --Jayron32 19:33, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Policy re dropped criminal charges in BLPs

Do we have a policy regarding if and when it is appropriate to mention that a living person was accused of a crime, but charges were dropped (or something similar to that effect). I seem to remember reading something but can't find it now. I'm specifically asking about David Goodwillie but anything general would be appreciated too. doomgaze (talk) 19:47, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

WP:BLP and WP:LIBEL primarily, but also WP:V and WP:UNDUE. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:55, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Though it regards whether to create an article or not when someone has only been accused, so it's not applicable here, I wonder if the language you remember reading is from the last part of WP:PERPETRATOR? It's in the vein of what you were talking about. I was thinking also you might have seen WP:HARM#TEST. In any event, I agree with Redrose's links above.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:23, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Bingo, the little bit in WP:PERPETRATOR was what I half-remembered, guess it isn't really relevant to this situation after all. Thanks for your help guys, doomgaze (talk) 12:03, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

K&E drafting machine

I need help in locating an owners manual for a K&E PARAGON deafting machine. Any links, web sites, pdf files, personal contacts are most welcome and needed. [email redacted]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rtrg (talk • contribs) 21:17, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps.Template:Z37 PrimeHunter (talk) 21:26, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Broken page layout

en.wikipedia.org is broken for me on google chrome only, It is also fully functioning on other languages, the page font has changed to Times New Roman and the layout is nonexistent. How can I fix this? 86.174.91.88 (talk) 22:52, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Can you give more details?Jasper Deng (talk) 22:53, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

The page looks like this http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w263/kingfroggy/Untitled-1.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.174.91.88 (talk) 23:04, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

This is an incomplete page load. Simply refresh. Otherwise, something is stopping a complete page load.Jasper Deng (talk) 23:30, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Clear your entire cache. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:10, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Editing issues

Hi,

For certain articles, I have some problems with editing. Any time I try to edit an article, it says I have to download something or use some kind of software. This didn't used to happen before, and just started happening today. Any time I click the edit button, it downloads a file called "index.php", and it wants me to select whether I should download software to enable me to edit or to use software I currently have. I do not know what this is, and it's stopping me from editing.

--Bobjonespie (talk) 22:59, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Have you run a virus scan lately? What is the name of the software that it wants you to install? Dismas|^(talk) 23:04, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Go to your preferences editing tab, and see if "Use external editor by default..." is ticked. If it is, uncheck the box. See if that fixes the issue.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:12, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

July 26

Help with JavaScript

I placed code on my common.js page that was on my vector.js page, and now that code is not working! I'm going to move the code back to my vector file until I find an answer. Please help. --Nathan2055^talk 00:53, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

You may get a better answer if you ask at WP:VPT which tends to attract more technical minded people. --Jayron32 01:16, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

 Done --Nathan2055^talk 02:21, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

caverns in arkansas

How come beautiful Bull Shoals Caverns is not listed in Caverns in Arkansas, was opened in 1960. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bullshoalscaverns (talk • contribs) 04:39, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Items are not supposed to be included in list articles unless they are notable enough to to have an article in in Wikipedia. (I removed a couple entries from List of caves in Arkansas which no articles.) —teb728 t c 06:22, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

content

In the contents of a user talk page (or any page, for that matter), if a section on a page (say, “TESTART”) is created with a title, say “TEST”, and someone else creates a section named the exact same thing, and someone puts a link for “TESTART#TEST”, which would it link to? Neither? An editor since 10.28.2010. 06:03, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure that I completely follow what you're asking but if a page (Foo) has two sections titled the same thing (Bar), then a link to Foo#Bar will go to the first "Bar" section on the page. You can see this happen on the reference desks with some frequency. People will title their questions with "Question" and occasionally there will be more than one of them on the page. If you were to respond to any of them and save, when the page reloads it will automatically drop you at the first instance of that "Question" section. Dismas|^(talk) 06:12, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

If you try it out on a sandbox page in your user space, you'll see that if you create a second section with the same title, the anchor will automatically be modified to #Test_2 . - David Biddulph (talk) 06:19, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you An editor since 10.28.2010. 19:01, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

National Bank of Georgia

Hello, I have a question regarding the article i edited (National Bank of Georgia (country)). I received the following e-mail: "Dear Kakha123,

The Wikipedia page "User talk:Kakha123" has been created on 25 July 2011 by Grim Littlez, with the edit summary: General note: Removal of maintenance templates on National Bank of Georgia (country). (TW)

This is a new page. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kakha123 for the current revision.

To contact the editor, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Grim_Littlez

Note that additional changes to the page "User talk:Kakha123" will not result in any further notifications, until you have logged in and visited the page.

Your friendly Wikipedia notification system

--

This email notification feature was enabled on English Wikipedia in May 2011 - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Email_notification. If you would like to switch off your notifications, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences

Feedback and further assistance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Content"

I am a beginner in editing wiki articles, so it would be very kind of you if you will help me and give me advice what am i supposed to do? and how to contact User:Grim_Littlez? Thank you in advance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.227.255.196 (talk) 06:21, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

The easiest way to contact Grim_Littlez is to edit his user talk page. - David Biddulph (talk) 06:38, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

National Bank of Georgia (country) had maintenance tags: {{coi}}, {{notability}}, {{one source}}, {{primarysources}}, and {{refimprove}}, which indicate that the article has been edited by someone with a conflict of interest; it does not demonstrate the notability of the subject; and it does not adequately verify the content with references to independent reliable sources. You made an edit which removed those tags without correcting the underlying problems. Worse yet you inserted copyright violations copied from http://nbg.gov.ge/index.php?m=130&lng=eng. —teb728 t c 07:01, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

we need help

Dear sir, we are agroup of company and want to start a new ocean world or an amusement park here in orissa so we need your help to how and who are the company to help us to make our dream success . kindly response us with regards Mr. Robin — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.19.250.183 (talk) 06:30, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 —teb728 t c 06:42, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

waukegan, illinois

the potawatomi word for waukegan does not mean little fort it means the bay, because of the bay it sits on.. I am a language teacher of the potawatomi nation we would like this to be corrected .. Thank you.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.199.39.218 (talk) 06:46, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

I removed the unsourced derivation as "little fort". If you have a published reliable source for "bay", you can add it to the article. —teb728 t c 07:11, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

The official site for the town of Waukegan disagrees with you. Dismas|^(talk) 07:13, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

I have removed the section as a long-standing copyright violation. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:19, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Usurpation of an account with 35 edits

Hello! I'm Netraam, a user mainly of the Dutch wikipedia. I'd like to start contributing to the English wikipedia. For SUL reasons I'd like to usurp the account User:Netraam. However, this account has been used in the past, between 2006 and 2008. A total of 35 contributions has been made from this account, but it now seems to be inactive for over 3 years. Is it possible to usurp this account, eventhough a small number of contributions has been made from it in the past? nl:Netraam (talk) 07:34, 26 July 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.0.86.203 (talk)

Usurps are performed by a Bureaucrat, and they will consider any individual case - there's guidelines, but no hard-and-fast rules.

You need to make a request on the page Wikipedia:Changing username/Usurpations, and take it from there.  Chzz  ►  09:29, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Where do I ask if I just want some neutral people to add a page to their watchlist?

Where would I ask people to put Eatyourkimchi on their watchlist? There's suddenly a bunch of new edits, some of which might be tests. Cloveapple (talk) 07:45, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Posting here will probably do the trick. If the article keeps getting damaged by unregistered or newly-registered editors, you could try asking for protection at WP:RFPP. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:02, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Help with fixing Non-free media use rationale for a non-free file

I just uploaded File:Boerse stuttgart logo.png. In the non-free media use rationale, there are some pieces of text that seem to be generated automatically when filling in information for one of the parameters. For example, the description currently reads

"This is a logo owned by Boerse Stuttgart for The image is placed in the infobox at the top of the article discussing Börse Stuttgart. The purpose is to help the reader identify the institution in question visually which could not be achieved with word alone.. Further details: The official logo of Börse Stuttgart."

Similar problems occur in the text for 'Source' and 'Purpose of use' parameters. However I can't seems to figure out, what the correct wording of text for each parameter is supposed to be in order for it to appear correctly. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 08:33, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

I have fixed the duplication. The fields marked "ADDITIONAL INFORMATION" can usually be left blank, because the template gives you sensible defaults. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:58, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

(e/c) If you want to fill in all the fields, I would suggest using {{non-free use rationale}}. {{Logo fur}} was designed to provide boilerplate text (with limited overrides) for most fields. —teb728 t c 09:03, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

@John: Thanks for fixing.

@teb728: I somehow didn't think of using these blank templates and instead tried to modify an existing one to fit that article. I will use the blank ones in the future. Thanks.

Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 09:14, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

How do I work out what the problem is re Capitalization?

I am the author of 95% of an article Price action trading that just received a Capitalization warning so:

"Helpful Pixie Bot (talk | contribs) m (34,141 bytes) (Dated {{One source}}{{Capitalization}}. (Build p613))"

I read through the Capitalization section in the style guide but nothing leapt out at me that I'm doing wrong. How can I find out where the capitalization error is? --Ahardy66 (talk) 09:10, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

The easiest solution, when you're unsure why someone 'tags' a page, is to ask them. In this case it is a bot, but the bot is owned by Rich Farmbrough (talk · contribs) who is thus responsible for its edits, and should be able to explain the concern and reason for the tagging. (I know it's that user, because User talk:Helpful Pixie Bot redirects to his talk page)  Chzz  ►  09:22, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

The bot only dated the tag. It was added by Yworo (talk · contribs), so that's the person you should be asking. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:30, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Oops! Sorry, quite so. Thanks, John of Reading.  Chzz  ►  10:11, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

OK great, so it was human, not mechanical. Still getting used to this stuff. Thanks. --Ahardy66 (talk) 12:11, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Can't get wikipedia to email me when a page on my watchlist is edited - except for my own talk page

Is this possible? Under the account settings, there are only 4 options, none of which I think would help. The last option "Email me also for minor edits of pages" suggests that there is a way to tell wikipedia to email me for edits of all my watchlist pages (like this page for instance!). Have I just missed the obvious? Thanks --Ahardy66 (talk) 13:40, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

No, this is not possible. I believe this is a MediaWiki feature that has been turned off at the English Wikipedia for performance reasons. -- John of Reading (talk) 13:46, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

You may be able to find a workaround that works for you using the RSS feed of your watchlist or any other page, and getting email alerts from that (try this search] to for starters). —Akrabbim^talk 14:17, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

So is there a place to discuss reform of wikipedia editors and resolving revision tyranny's by editors?

A frequent problem I am coming across is that a lot of editors, rather than spending any time working *with* an edit by someone else (let's assume the edit is reasonable or close to it), they almost act like any change is unlawful and reversible instantaneously. Is there a place in wikipedia to discuss what can be done about editors who squat and claim pages as their own? Is there anything that can be done about undo-revision tyrannys by editors: Their first order of action is to undo something instantly and not contribute and work with a change in the discussion: Just outright UNDO/DELETE?PeterHarlington (talk) 15:15, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

You might want to give Wikipedia:Dispute resolution a read. 図 (talk) 15:30, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Have you raised the issue on the article's Talk page? That is where the process should begin, and hopefully end in a satisfactory solution for all involved. Roger (talk) 15:33, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Your account was created 2 hours ago, only had 7 edits before coming here, and you didn't yet know that new discussion sections go at the bottom or that Wikipedia uses a common time zone (UTC). Based on this I don't think you have enough experience for a general discusion of how Wikipedia works. See Wikipedia:Dispute resolution for ways to handle your specific dispute and DO NOT make threatening statements in edit summaries or anywhere else. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:36, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle and Wikipedia:BRD misuse.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 15:54, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

External link question

hello,

is it possible to remove the small image, which depicts a square and on the right corner of it a diagonal arrow, after an external link. Regards.--

♫Greatorangepumpkin♫_Never–^get–_out–^of–_these–^blues-_alive 15:44, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

See Help:Link#External links, but it shouldn't generally be done in articles. Where do you want to do it? Or did you mean to do it for all links for your own account? PrimeHunter (talk) 15:49, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

I guess you mean in your signature. Have you seen Wikipedia:Signatures#Links? PrimeHunter (talk) 15:51, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict × 2) You might want to take a look at the WP:MARKUP#External links. Take a look at the last entry in the table where it says Image markup only. This should do the trick. If you are talking about your signature, see PrimeHunters reply above. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 15:55, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Also, your signature at User:GreatOrangePumpkin/Signature/Blues is already way over Wikipedia:Signatures#Length which says max 255 characters. You have 720 which takes up half the edit box. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:02, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks everyone for the help. I reduced it, and will try to reduce it more. Regards.--♫Greatorangepumpkin♫_Hey^{it's me}_{I am dynamite} 17:53, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

University of London Logo

Recently, the University of London changed it's logo.

The emblem was replaced on its wikipedia page but in JPG format which distored the quality. Therefore, it reverted back to the emblem.

Could somebody now upload the new logo in PNG format which can be found here (much better quality): http://www.freeimagehosting.net/7137a

The image that needs to be replaced is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:University_of_London_arms.svg

Thank you!

86.5.71.198 (talk) 17:43, 26 July 2011 (UTC) Daniel

I already uploaded that logo at File:UofLondon_logo.png. The image at File:University_of_London_arms.svg is of way too high resolution to comply with Wikipedias Non-free content policy, in particular it fails WP:NFC#Policy 3 b.. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 17:54, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

I also already added that image to the article. The addition was reverted however by another user. I think you should discuss this at Talk:University of London first. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 18:00, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

I added a reply at Talk:University of London. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 21:57, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Template with exact edit count

I'm looking for a template (presumably a userbox) that will show my exact number of edits. Can someone please give me a link to one? TomUSA 17:58, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Is {{editcount}} what you need? TNXMan 18:01, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

You may also find something here that does what you want. TNXMan 18:04, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

This Help desk answer from December says this can't be done automatically. If this were available, I guess it might lead to performance issues: the cached version of your user page would have to be thrown away whenever your edit count changed. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:09, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

My first article "Penrose Prozess" was deleted within 2 minutes of it being online, help me get it back please

Hello!! So i have just uploaded my first article, which was supposed to be the German version of the "Penrose process". I don't know how to indicate a page being the same but the translated version, but i uploaded it anyway, trying to read it up and add a link back to the English version. Sadly within 2 minutes, my article was removed due to it being rated a duplicate as the title was obviously similar. Could anyone please help me and tell me how i can get my article re-uploaded ( i didnt save it :( ) and maybe indicate somewhere that it is a version of one article but in a different language. Thanks very much!!! MadameBruxelles (talk) 18:06, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

You may have noticed that all articles and communications here are in English, that's because this is the English Wikipedia. If you want to write a German version of an article we already have you should do so on the German Wikipedia--Jac16888 ^Talk 18:09, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Jac, as the deleting admin, you can access the deleted content to give to Madame Bruxelles so she can submit it to the German Wikipedia, can't you? —Akrabbim^talk 18:19, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

I have mailed a copy of the deleted article to MadameBruxelles along with this:

A German article should be created at http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penrose_Prozess

See also http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%C3%9Cbersetzungen and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Interlanguage_links

PrimeHunter (talk) 02:33, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Jonathan Tonge wikipedia entry

Jonathan Tonge (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I tried to edit this yesterday to provide a list of more representative publications, but it has mosttly been changed back today saying I need a 'citation' - which is nonsense. The citation IS my own work???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jontonge (talk • contribs) 18:25, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Hello, Jonathan. I know it seems odd, but the problem is that on the Internet nobody knows who you are. I could create an account called JonathanTonge, and post all sorts of nonsense about you, and claim to be you, and nobody would be able to disprove it except by reference to information which is publicly available. For this reason, the criterion for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth.

Where biographies of living people are concerned, we are even more careful to insist that data be supported by reliable citations. If there is information in the article which is false and unreferenced, you or anybody may remove it; but adding new information requires a higher standard of evidence.

There is a further issue: because of neutrality, people are generally discouraged from editing articles on subjects they have a close connection with. Not forbidden, but discouraged: see WP:conflict of interest for more information.

The course I would recommend is to post on the article's talk page explaining the information you want to change, preferably with verifiable references, and leave it to others to edit the article. --ColinFine (talk) 18:46, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

While you're at it also take a good look at WP:AUTOBIO about the perils of editing an article about yourself. Roger (talk) 19:00, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict)x2

Original research (i.e. 'personal experience' and such) are not acceptable, sorry. A key policy to Wikipedia is verifiability, and in order to be verifiable, you need to use information from a reliable and independent source that is accessible by someone else other than you (especially since everyone is basically anonymous online). Examples of such sources include newspapers, websites, books, academic journals, etc.

Especially in additions like the ones you did which just might possibly be self-aggrandizing. Promotion of any kind is forbidden on Wikipedia. Praising or criticizing descriptions are used if and only if they are backed up by multiple reliable sources, hence why your edits were reverted. Even then, they are toned down as much as possible. Lists of actual products (like publications) are also frowned upon and are often removed when their presence are not essential to an article.

Additionally, if you are indeed the subject of the article then you have a conflict of interest. Whether intentionally or not, it would be hard for you to maintain complete neutrality on the subject. It is usually recommended you don't edit it directly. Try and post suggestions in the talk page instead, along with sources that can verify them.

More sources are also important in proving notability - an essential criterion for whether users decide to keep an article or delete it. As it stands, the article does not show notability (i.e. it does not explain why the subject deserves an article in an encyclopedia), adding more reliable sources fixes this.

Please also read Wikipedia:Autobiography.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 19:05, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

HINDI TYPING PROBLEM IN WIKIPEDIA

Hello Wikipedia!

We love and like you very-very much.

Thanks for helping us in Hindi Language (India). But we could not type in my favorite style like Devlys font or Kruti Dev fonts. Please help us to type in our languages in Hindi to contribute more in Hindi Language.

For example- We can select font Devlys 10 in MS Word and can type in Hindi easily but we are unable to type in the style of hindi provided in Wikipedia. Thanks. Jai Hindi. .... An Indian — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.201.57.23 (talk) 19:53, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Hello. It's a bit complicated as fonts depend on a lot of factors, but this page might help: Help:Multilingual support (Indic). It has very specific instructions for whatever operating system you might have. You can also try looking for answers in the Hindi Wikipedia (मुखपृष्ठ) -- Obsidi♠n Soul 20:01, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Forbidden 403

Hi I just wanted to know why did I get a forbidden 403 page when I tried to search here on wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.202.243.109 (talk)20:08, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Can you tell us your browser name and version? Does it happen every time, or only when you search a particular item, or is it random? Does the problem go away if you bypass your browser cache? -- John of Reading (talk) 20:26, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

I searched ".net" because I wanted to know what it meant and I got this page that said 403 forbidden you dont have permission to access this server. Then I searched "net" and I was able to find it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.202.243.109 (talk) 20:33, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

OK, I'm glad you've found what you wanted. I've tried various kinds of search for ".net" without hitting the error; I'll watch out for anyone else reporting a 403 error. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:39, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Entering .net into the search field and pressing enter / clicking the magnification glass leads me to the article .net. What browser do you use and from where do you try to access the page (ie. from your home, from a public spot, from your mobile phone)? Are you sure you are viewing http://en.wikipedia.org/? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 20:46, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

I was on my mobile and went to wikipedia and searched .net and I got the error page 403 forbidden — Preceding unsigned comment added by 48azul (talk • contribs) 20:51, 26 July 2011 (UTC) Why did I get that error? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 48azul (talk • contribs) 21:03, 26 July 2011 (UTC) What does it mean? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.202.243.109 (talk) 21:26, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Ah yes, there is indeed a problem with the search box used by the mobile version of the site. This search reproduces the 403 error. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:40, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

You should be able to avoid the problem with a period at the start of a search by using quotes. When you said you searched ".net" I guess you entered .net in the search box and not ".net" including the quotes. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:17, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

This was first noted in April; see bug 28510. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:58, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Hiding the IP address

I have another question. I just created an account but I asked this question before creating it. How can I hide my IP with my new username? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 48azul (talk • contribs) 21:38, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

IP edits cannot be reassigned to an account. If a user is accidentally logged out when posting then they can request removal of the IP address from public view at Wikipedia:Requests for oversight but I'm not sure how an oversighter will respond to a request about an IP address from before an account was created. If your concern is others linking your IP address to your user account then a solution might be to abandon the account 48azul and create a new account without mentioning the connection to 48azul. This would not be a violation of Wikipedia:Sock puppetry when 48azul has only posted here. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:11, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Cardinal Mooney High School Principal

The Cardinal Mooney High School page (for the Sarasota location) says that Jim Morrison is the Principal. That is obviously not true. The Principal is Steve Christie. This information can be verified here: http://www.cmhs-sarasota.org/AboutUs/FacultyStaff.aspx.

Thank you for your attention to this matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.141.112.18 (talk) 21:35, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. The article had been vandalized. Jim Morrison was added by an IP address in Sarasota so I guess it was a student. I have reverted to a version saying Steve Christie. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:51, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

How actively is that page monitored?

How long will it typically take for a request at WP:THIRD to be answered? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 22:14, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Typically more than six minutes. --195.14.197.88 (talk) 22:46, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

I guess I will just wait then. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 22:57, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

private help availability

I need to discuss a special editorial request in a non-public forum. Can you refer me to someone or some place? --Ring Cinema (talk) 23:01, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Greetings. We will be able to help you better with more information. Is this a request for an edit to be made to a protected page? Do you have a conflict of interest with the edits you wish to make? Happy editing, hajatvrc with WikiLove @ 23:14, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Some avenues from Wikipedia:Contact us lead to a non-public email option but it's not for all matters. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:25, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm afraid I can't discuss the issue here because that would draw attention to the problem I'm trying to solve. Suffice it to say it's a privacy matter and would require the assistance of an admin. --Ring Cinema (talk) 00:36, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps Wikipedia:Requests for oversight is the place for your problem. I'm an administrator but not an oversighter. You can email me at Special:EmailUser/PrimeHunter but the response time may be more than 10 hours depending when you mail. There are other places where many volunteers can see mails and you may get a faster response. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:56, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

About pages that do not give a neutral point of view

I noticed that there are many pages that do not give a neutral point of view. In general there are 2 groups that oppose each others point of view and the result is in general that on of the group is hijacking the whole page, meaning that the page does not give proper information. A better sollution would be to give both groups their own page or part of that page so that the reader can make up their own mind. Thanks! Jorrit — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.153.23.7 (talk) 23:10, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Hello! Wikipedia is a work-in-progress, meaning it still has many problems that the thousands and thousands of faithful editors have not yet been able to solve. This should always be kept in mind when reading a Wikipedia article.

On the other hand, you are encouraged to make changes yourself toward Wikipedia's ends as opposed to simply pointing out flaws on this Help Desk! Happy editing, hajatvrc with WikiLove @ 23:20, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

July 27

ban

I heard you can get banned from editing at Wikipedia forever? Can you get banned from Wikipedia forever? An editor since 10.28.2010. 00:10, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

If you mean banned from reading Wikipedia, no, you can't get banned from reading Wikipedia. —teb728 t c 00:19, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you An editor since 10.28.2010. 00:25, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

also

Why is there a redirect here for WP:Y? What does that indicate or refer to? An editor since 10.28.2010. 00:13, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

You can find the answer to your first question at Wikipedia:Banning policy. I do not know the answer to your second. Happy editing, hajatvrc with WikiLove @ 00:18, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

No, thanks, I only want the answer to this question instead of “I do not know”. Also, I don't think you really understood my first question. Thanks anyway, An editor since 10.28.2010. 00:33, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Note: the above statement was not meant to be rude, suggestive, or offensive. Any references are unintentional and coincidential.

I imagine it is because "Y" is a homophone of "why", which is a common question here. --Floquenbeam (talk) 00:46, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

A method I often find useful when trying to figure out why something was done: First look at the page history [5] to see when it was done. If the edit summary doesn't explain it then look at the other contributions at the time for the editor who did it: [6]. By doing this I found this explanation. It was indeed "Y" meaning "why". (WP:Why redirects somewhere else so it's not optimal). PrimeHunter (talk) 01:43, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. I figured that it was “why”, I just wanted to check. I never ever thought of checking the history logs for the answer in an edit summary (that's cause I'm...wait for it...stupid). Thanks again, An editor since 10.28.2010. 04:17, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

also, again

How to apply for a WikiProject? An editor since 10.28.2010. 00:25, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

There is no application process for Wikiprojects. For example, if one wanted to join Wikiproject Music, one would simply sign Wikipedia:WikiProject Music/Participants by following the directions on that page. Happy editing, hajatvrc with WikiLove @ 00:33, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't think I explained correctly: I want to join WP:BASEBALL. How? There is no “join” link anywhere. An editor since 10.28.2010. 00:35, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Baseball/Participant list. --Floquenbeam (talk) 00:44, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

To join Wikipedia:Baseball, go here. There is a green rectangle down the left-hand side of the page entitled "Project". Go to the third paragraph, fifth line where there is a link to the list of participants. Click on the link. You will be taken to this page. Follow the instructions on the page to become a participant in the project. Bielle (talk) 00:48, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much An editor since 10.28.2010. 01:01, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Black page indicator link font color

I would like {{Time 100}}, {{Time 100s}}, {{Time 100s 2000s}} to have the black page indicator font on links when the link is to the page that the template is included in. How do I do that?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:20, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

It's automatic. For example, if I link to Wikipedia:Help desk (this page), the link is bold. Goodvac (talk) 01:05, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

See more at Help:Self link. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:25, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

It is not working because I have changed the color of the links (see 2009 Time 100).--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:22, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

It works in the "Time 100" box at 2009 Time 100. It doesn't work as you want in the "Time 100 selections (2000s)" box at 2009 Time 100 (that box has a white "2009" on red background in the left column). As you say, this is because you have manually set the color instead of letting MediaWiki do it. Black is the default color for unlinked text so MediaWiki doesn't really "change" the color of a selflink to black. It just omits making it a link and then it defaults to black if you haven't set the color. However, selflinks are also rendered as bold text. That "works" in your box but it makes no difference because the text in those fields is already bold. White bold on red background may not look like you expect for bold but see the difference: This 2009 is bold. This 2009 is not bold. I suggest you ignore that the special selflink formatting makes no difference in those fields. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:18, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

So there is no style command for selflinks?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:43, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Font size

Suddenly Wikipedia is appearing in font so small I can't begin to read it. In fact, I can't really read what I am typing here. How can I enlarge the font so that I can read it? It's got to be about font size 2. Please respond to me at [email redacted]

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.176.144.210 (talk) 01:35, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Check the zoom level of your browser. --Jayron32 01:37, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

We don't reply by email. In many browsers you can zoom with 'Ctrl' and '+'/'-', or with Ctrl and the mouse wheel. If this doesn't solve the problem then try to clear your entire cache. If there are still problems then what is your browser and does http://meta.wikimedia.org have the same problem? PrimeHunter (talk) 01:49, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes, as Jayron32 and PrimeHunter said above, you should check the zoom level, in the bottom right corner for Windows. You can also adjust by using Ctrl+(equals sign) and Ctrl+- (⌘ Cmd+(equals sign) and ⌘ Cmd+- for Mac). Also, is it tiny on other pages? If so, you should adjust you zoom. If not, clear your browser and cache. (As Jayron32 and PrimeHunter said) An editor since 10.28.2010. 03:59, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Problems using <math>

Problems with OSX Lion and the math processor in Safari. I can no longer use the <math> </math> environments in Safari. The only change is that I just loaded OSX Lion. Prof McCarthy (talk) 02:40, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Have you tried using {{math}}? Ryan Vesey Review me! 03:00, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for getting back to me. I contacted both Apple and the Wikipedia chat line. While the Wikipedia chat team and their helpmebot did everything they could to send me elsewhere, I think someone finally understood what I was saying, because within five minutes the math environment processor began working again, after being out for about an hour. Prof McCarthy (talk) 03:48, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Valasca

Hi! I created an article about a historical person named Valasca. Can someone please clean up the article? Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 03:06, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

I see the article is tagged for speedy deletion, “as a blatant and obvious hoax”. That is because there is no key information at all, and it is not written in encyclopedic style. And, rather than asking someone else to fix the article, it would be better for you to fix it yourself, being the creator of the article (remember, anyone can edit Wikipedia). If you feel that you must request someone else to do so, it should be placed on the talk page of the article. Also, this would be more appropriately placed on the article's talk page. An editor since 10.28.2010. 03:37, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

 Yeah, your article was deleted a few minutes ago. Thanks anyway! regard An editor since 10.28.2010. 03:54, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

I can't remember the content of the article completely, but I am not sure it was a hoax. I brought the issue up on the deleting admins talk page. Ryan Vesey Review me! 03:55, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

It was quite un-en-cyc-lo-pe-d-ic (Yes, seven! First seven syllable word typed by me ever!). It was about three to four lines on my browser window, and had a single “source” (not reference) A single internal link, and a couple of run-on sentences. An editor since 10.28.2010. 04:02, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Wow, that was a bad speedy. A tiny bit of searching by the tagger or the admin (e.g. [7] would have found that though the article was lacking a bit of context, this was not a hoax at all but an article about a figure of legend. When deleting as a "blatant hoax" one is by implication accusing the creator of bad faith and so care should be taken.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:02, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Fastily has given me the deleted content and I will be creating it at User:Ryan Vesey/Valasca if nobody objects. Anyone is free to help work on the article. Ryan Vesey Review me! 04:04, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too, Fughettaboutit. It was not a “blatant ... hoax”, it just lacks detail. RyanVesey I am going to try to help the article, if you don't mind. Thanks again, An editor since 10.28.2010. 04:14, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Neptune doesn't create hoaxes, but she does create shocking bad stubs about interesting but obscure topics, and then ask total strangers to clean 'em up. See her userpage for reason. I hope she hasn't caused too much trouble. Elen of the Roads (talk) 11:49, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Fatal Wikimedia bug has returned, crashing older browsers (Netscape 7-9, etc.) in new skin

References: bugzilla:23926 report (FIXED June 2010), previous report (fixed), original report

2011 update: This fatal bug was quickly FIXED (and there's an even easier fix, below) but has recently since returned, so I'm posting a note about it. Some older machines can't use Firefox; Regardless of browser being out of date, Wikipedia is a major international (and primarily text-based) educational tool and should not crash a browser in this particular manner. This bug was confirmed here on June 21 of 2010 as occurring on several versions of older Mozilla browsers and was quickly FIXED at bugzilla:23926.

However, it has recently since reappeared. Note that this is not a style or appearance glitch which is to be expected on an older browser. The page loads fine, just as in Firefox, THEN crashes when it attemts to access additional data from bits. (somethingsomething) .org. Previously it was wikimedia but someone was able to fix the problem relatively easily. It may be a related file, as the person who fixed it indicated that the problem might reoccur for additional wikimedia modules.

Note that the page loads just fine in Netscape 7 (and presumably 9, the last version, according to reports), as it appears in Firefox, then crashes when it attempts to load something from wikimedia after the entire page is up. That is the same problem that occurred before. I have just noticed this and will post a new topic.

Also note that this is only in the new Vector skin (or whatever it's called), not the classic (pre-2009) skin. The classic skin is compatible with older browsers. So the problem can be fixed by restoring the fix that was used for bugzilla:23926 and extending it to other recent Wikimedia-bits, restoring the bugzilla fix if it was deleted from the script, or else default to old skin for older browsers. (So as to avoid unnecessarily crashing the user's browser.)

Options for Resolution: (in order of immediacy / permanence)

1. Extend the bugzilla:23926 fix to recent bits from wikimedia that are causing the same problem.
The glitch appears to result from an error in how older Mozilla browsers read a certain specific command.

2. Block additional widgets from wikimedia (i.e. future add-ons and scripts beyond the basic engine) on unsupported browsers, or tell the browser
to ignore script calls containing the command that does not work. Worth considering as the current skin does appear fine -- until this glitch causes it to crash.

3. Revert to the "classic" (2007-2009) skin which works fine on older browsers, by DEFAULT for unsupported browsers.
If the above options will not work, this would be simple, global and effective.

Note that I don't have a bugzilla account and I'm stymied to create one, since I'd have to create a separate spamproof e-mail address for that sole purpose. But I can message you with a sample error report, if you wish. Note that this problem was already confirmed and fixed once; the error appears in the same fashion as before, but probably stems from recent updates to which the previous bugzilla fix was not applied. Yclept:Berr (talk) 03:22, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Additional piece of data: Just noticed, the problem does not occur on [meta.wikimedia.org] or [wiktionary.org]

(tested using same browser). Yclept:Berr (talk) 04:26, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia Appearance Settings - Darker Theme?

Hello. My apologies if this has been asked before - I have searched but can't find any specific references to this question. Also sorry if this isn't the right place to be asking.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who finds it tiring and uncomfortable to sit gazing into light bulbs for hours at a time. I find black text on white pages has much the same effect on me. My eyes aren't great anyway - they tend to strain very easily. At the risk of rambling, I've never really understood why so many major websites default to black on white, which is fine for reading things on paper, but not so good when what you're reading is glowing at you (and yes, I've turned my monitor brightness down but it doesn't really do much except make images too dark to see).

So my question is, are there any appearance options that would let me read Wikipedia in white text (or better still, grey) on a black background? I've tried all the themes included in Preferences/Appearance and they're all variations on a black-on-white theme.

I'd even be happy to have a stab at creating my own inverted theme - if that would be possible and permissible - if there's nothing in place already. But I'd need some advice on how to go about it.. Can anyone offer any suggestions please? Thanks - Silvensis (talk) 07:17, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

In the preferences screen there should be a "gadgets" tab. Under the "appearance" heading there should be a check box labeled "Use a black background with green text on the Monobook skin". As the text says, it only works with the "Monobook" skin. It may also be possible to write CSS style sheets that would have the same effect, but I don't know all of the codes for that.   Will Beback  talk  07:27, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

The gadget may work with the default "Vector" skin as well - give it a try.   Will Beback  talk  07:30, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

It does although not very well. There's a band of white at the top of every page that stops about half way down (cutting through) the WP logo. And the editing toolbar above this text entry window is still white. Oh yes, and there's also a jarring change where the page first appears white for a split second and then turns black with the green. Dismas|^(talk) 07:47, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

This old thread explains how to set the text and background colours using Firefox preferences - any use? -- John of Reading (talk) 08:00, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Going live

I created an article on my User Page under my user name. I then deleted my user name and moved the article to a page titled with the name of the person it is about - and saved it. This has not appeared on Wikipedia yet. I did it about 12 hours ago. Have I done something wrong or is it simply that there is a waiting time while it is checked. If so any idea what the average waiting time is?

Thank you..... Eva Meade (talk) 09:02, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

The page you created is at Christopher Bollas (Psychoanalyst and Writer). It needs a significant amount of work though. Dismas|^(talk) 09:24, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

symptoms of amoeboisis

This question has been removed. Per the reference desk guidelines, the reference desk is not an appropriate place to request medical, legal or other professional advice, including any kind of medical diagnosis or prognosis, or treatment recommendations. For such advice, please see a qualified professional. If you don't believe this is such a request, please explain what you meant to ask, either here or on the talk page discussion (if a link has been provided). --Jayron32 12:19, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

The question "Is loss of appetite a symptom of amoebiasis?" was not a request for medical advice or a diagnosis, but a request for information. Our article Amoebiasis should help answer that question. DuncanHill (talk) 12:27, 27 July 2011 (UTC)