Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States

See also: Discusión del Wikiproyecto Estados Unidos (Español)

Merging of projects and importance

This has led to a lot of articles, particularly Mississippi-, Kentucky- and Utah-related ones, being assessed as Top-priority that should probably only be Mid or Low here, as we generally agreed that broad umbrella topics or very important biographies or whatnot. This isn't the case right now; according to categorization, Egg Bowl is top importance here. I've started cleaning some of these up, but I'd appreciate some help Purplebackpack89≈≈≈≈ 19:03, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Your absolutely right. Some of these inherited the importance from the other project and need to be cleaned up. Being top importance for Utah for example does not automatically make them top importance for the US project. --Kumioko (talk) 19:42, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

New template

New template for Inline tags (tags added at the end of sentences) has been created that may be useful to project members.Moxy (talk) 22:42, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
{{Inline tags}}

See also: Template:Tools and Wikipedia:Template messages/Cleanup

Biosecurity in the United States

I created the Biosecurity in the United States as a split from the biosecurity article. It needs work. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 07:30, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

January 2012 USCOTM - The Star-Spangled Banner

Hello, WikiProject United States! The Star-Spangled Banner has been selected as the United States Wikipedians' Collaboration of the Month article for January 2012 and we are looking for editors to help improve the article. You were identified as an editor or WikiProject with an interest in the article and we thought you might be interested in helping out. Thanks!!!

--Kumioko (talk) 20:11, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Featured article review for Katie Holmes

I have nominated Katie Holmes for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Brad (talk) 17:18, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Abraham Lincoln proposal

Hello editors interested in Abraham Lincoln. I just created a proposal for a new WikiProject with a focus on Lincoln, similar to the WikiProject that exists for Barack Obama. Please feel free to comment on my proposal at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Abraham Lincoln‎. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:38, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Would you be open to creating more? Specifically, I think that Teddy Roosevelt should have one, considering his widespread impact on America and the world. 70.24.249.190 (talk) 00:52, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

This is interesting

This is really interesting — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.219.47.42 (talk) 03:49, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Are you referring to the Abe Lincoln project or some as of yet undescribed interestingness? --Kumioko (talk) 04:01, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Wikiproject Texas

I would appreciate it if interested parties would have a look at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Texas, specifically about the Redesign of the project's main page, and about it joining WikiProject United States. For all intents and purposes, this project has reached a comatose state of involvement. Editors are creating and contributing to Texas articles. But the project site itself has been pretty dead on its own for a long time. Anything anyone add to the current discussions on that page would be appreciated. Maile66 (talk) 21:07, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Population

Is there somewhere on Internet some data about all US states by race and/or religion? --84.245.231.134 (talk) 17:13, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

The Census Bureau doesn't release that sort of information for, like, decades IIRC. Achowat (talk) 17:15, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

See Demographics of the United States#Breakdown by state.--JayJasper (talk) 17:20, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

"Redtails"

With the failure of the requested move at Talk:Red Tails, it seems to me that the target of the redirect Redtails comes into question. People at the film article dispute that the Tuskegee Airmen are known as the Redtails/Red Tails, so should "Redtails" redirect to the African American fliers, or should it point to the film article, or the disambiguation page? (Note: several sources were brought up at the requested move showing that the Tuskegee Airmen were indeed known by that name, at least by a few people)

70.49.124.157 (talk) 10:03, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Complete nonsense by the anon; no one disputes that "red tails" identified the aircraft of the Tuskegee Airmen, but Red Tails is an article about a film. This is an example of Tendentious editing and a failure to Drop the stick and back slowly away from the horse carcass. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 19:42, 29 January 2012 (UTC).

Red tails doesn't exist. And if the film is at Red Tails, I don't see why the primarity of Redtails isn't also up for discussion, since it might just be better to point it at the film. 70.49.124.157 (talk) 06:06, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Leon Panetta as a United States Wikipedians' Collaboration of the Month candidate

Greetings, as a WikiProject that relates to this article, this notice was sent to let you know that the article, Leon Panetta, has been nominated to be a future Collaboration of the Month article. All editors interested in voting for or improving these article are encouraged to participate. You can cast your vote here. --Kumioko (talk) 16:37, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Question re bots for clean up

WikiProject Texas on its main page has a link for Clean Up listing by category. Therein, Orphaned Articles has a count of 377 articles. There are also almost 2,000 Texas articles that need coordinates. Does anyone know of bots that can do either of these tasks? Maile66 (talk) 12:56, 1 February 2012 (UTC) Conversation moved to Wikipedia Bot Requests. Maile66 (talk) 13:15, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

WikiWomen's History Month

Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:United States will have interest in putting on events (on and off wiki) related to women's roles in United States's history, society and culture. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch (talk) 23:50, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the heads-up.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 00:29, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

FA Review on Night of the Living Dead

I have nominated Night of the Living Dead for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. --George Ho (talk) 08:39, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Use of George W. Bush image, "shoeing" incident and WP:BLP

Your opinion is solicited for an ongoing discussion on the biographies of living persons noticeboard. The discussion is in reference to the use of George W. Bush "shoeing" incident images on a number of Wikipedia articles. [link to discussion] — Nearly Headless Nick {C} 15:55, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Reagan Day commemoration

WikiProject Conservatism cordially invites you to celebrate Ronald Reagan Day. On February 6 The Conservatism Portal will commemorate Ronald Reagan Day with a format specially designed for the holiday. The Conservatism Portal has recently been promoted to Featured Portal. – Lionel ^(talk) 03:27, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject embassy updates

WP:WikiProject United States/WikiProject embassy will need some updates. The U.S. Roads WikiProject has formed task forces for every state and territory lacking one, and consolidated all of the existing state-level subprojects into task forces of the parent project. The exception is that the New York State routes project remains as a subproject at this time. Imzadi 1979 → 12:58, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Your right thanks. I will work on getting that taken care of in the next couple days. Feel free to make the chanegs your self if you find the time. --Kumioko (talk) 14:37, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

I started working on updating that page today, still got quite a bit more to do though. I'll keep working on it over the next few days. --Kumioko (talk) 04:56, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

AFD for Luce–Celler Act of 1946

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Luce–Celler Act of 1946. RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 20:52, 7 February 2012 (UTC)Template:Z48 --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 20:52, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject United States History banner

{{WikiProject United States History}} and {{WikiProject United States|UShistory=yes}} exist, should the subproject banner be merged into the main USproj banner?

70.24.247.54 (talk) 04:38, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Not unless the US History folks want too and there is no requirement for them to do so. There are a lot of articles that both projects have in common so the US History was added to the WPUS so that the WPUS project can identify more easily which ones the 2 have in common. Some projects have differing policies on how articles are to be treated and this allows us to do things for some projects (like see redirects, templates, categories, etc.) that some projects don't care about. Its not meant to under cut them. Also, in some projects the scope of the project might go a little beyond "United States" (such as Pre texas, Pre california, Pre United States colonial America, etc.) personally its not a problem but it has come up as an issue to some users. with that said I would be perfectly happy to do that if the US History project wants too. --Kumioko (talk) 04:51, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

United States counties established in xxxx

I am a little surprised that the categories Category:United States counties established in xxxx, with xxxx being the year of establishment, do not already exist. As per this discussion on my talk page, I am no longer adding U.S. counties to Category:States and territories established in xxxx (example of one of those categories). What would the community think if I created the various Category:United States counties established in xxxx categories and categorized each U.S. county appropriately?

Please let me know if I need to clarify. Thanks! --Andrew (User:90) (talk) 22:30, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Unclosed {{Div col}} templates

Many articles in the xxxx in the United States series (example) are all jumbled up at the bottom because someone has used the {{Div col}} template for the birth and death sections without closing it. Our two options for fixing this are (1) close each instance of {{Div col}} or (2) remove each instance of {{Div col}}. Since there are only a couple items in each list, I propose we remove {{Div col}} entirely from these sections. Would anyone object to that?

Note: {{Div col}} is a template used to make a list show up in multiple columns instead of just one. It generally is not used unless there are a lot of items in the list. --Andrew (User:90) (talk) 22:39, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Requested articles

Natural Landforms

• Airman's Cave, close to Austin, TX
• Bartholdi Park DC
• Bote Mountain
• Chicago Wilderness
• Fairfield Lake State Park, Texas
• Hagerman Lake. Hagerman Lake, located in the township of Iron River, MI in the Upper Pennisula of Michigan.
• Ilio Point - on Molokai in Hawaii
• Indigo Lake, Ohio
• Keyhole Cave - A 20 foot long sea cave in Southwest Kauai, Hawaii.
• Lewis Lake, Wyoming, near Yellowstone Lake in Yellowstone National Park
• Melissa Coray Peak, on the western boundary of Mokelumne Wilderness, California
• Mytoge/Mytoges/Mytoge Mountain/Mytoge Mountains in the general area of Fish Lake, Utah
• Pemberton Point, Main Street, Hull, Massachusetts - Boston Harbor
• Palo Verde Valley - Southeast California valley on the Colorado River, south of Parker Valley, and where Blythe, CA is located. In Riverside County and Imperial County.
• Palo Verde Mountains Wilderness - Part of the National Landscape Conservation System, located in Imperial and Riverside Counties, California. Became notable in the death of MMA fighter Evan Tanner. Information here: http://www.blm.gov/ca/pa/wilderness/wa/areas/palo_verde_mountains.html
• Smut Island, Connecticut
• Salt River Canyon - Between Show Low, Arizona and Globe, Arizona; the U.S. 60 takes a dangerous route through the canyon. The Salt River Canyon is formed by the Salt River, hence the name.

Cities, Towns, Neighborhoods

• Barnum West History of Denver neighborhood
• Buena Vista County, Virginia see Buena Vista, Virginia; it's an independent city, so the two entities coincide.
• Chapel Hill, New Jersey, part of Middletown Township, New Jersey
• Fort Randall, Alaska
• Lake Havasu Estates, Yucca, Arizona A subdivision in Yucca, Arizona
• Alhambra Triangle, California, Neighborhood in Sacramento, CA
• Naked City Las Vegas - A neighborhood of Las Vegas, NV located near the Las Vegas Strip and known historically for the proliferation of drugs and prostitution.
• Prairie Shores apartment complex in Chicago
• Potomac Valley Potomac, West Covina, Los Angeles, California?
• Prairie Shores apartment complex in Chicago
• Rosedale, Washington, might be considered part of Gig Harbor, Washington, located in Pierce County. there's some info here: [1], and here is the page on it from Washington State Tourism: [2].
• Sawtooth Ridge, Colorado geographical and cultural info [ www.summitpost.org/sawtooth-ridge/156846] [www.14ers.com/routemain.php?route=bier4&peak=Bierstadt] [www.mountainzone.com/mountains/detail.asp?fid=1210256].
• Sign Pine, (historical,origin and/or ghost town of) North Carolina
• Southwest Detroit - A neighborhood in Detroit Michigan
• Spring Valley, New Jersey, part of Marlboro, NJ
• Touisset, Rhode IslandI think it's a historical name for Warren, RI. Alternatively spelt toweset in early maps.
• Trojan, South Dakota Former mining town by the Bald Mountain Mill in Lawrence County, South Dakota. Town was leveled and is now part of an open-pit mine. Information here: [3]
• Tucson Metropolitan Area
• Tuskawilla, Florida, maybe?
• Portal: Newark - as in Newark, New Jersey

Other

• Champions Square, The new concert plaza adjacent to the Mercedes-Benz Superdome in New Orleans, Louisiana
• List of US ZIP Codes by State
• List of Wards in Chicago
• Halo Farms Trenton, NJ
• Hickel Highway, Alaska - ice road
• National Capital Service Area
• Spanish land grants (in historic Mexico, modern California)
• Weracoba Park, the largest park in Columbus, Georgia
• Tropical America
• Escudilla Wilderness, Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest, Arizona
• Mount Baldy Wilderness, Apache-Sitgreaves National forest, Arizona
• Crook's Gap, Fremont County, Wyoming, USA - History, how it got its name
• Raven Knob Scout Reservation, Surry County, North Carolina, USA - One of the largest scouting camps in the country.
• Southern Missouri Southern third of Missouri is distinguishable from northern two-thirds, by dialect, history, and culture. Compare Southern Illinois.
• Bamberger Ranch, Johnson City, TX

This project's future

It seems that as of late the prevailing argument is that this project has become too big and the community has stated and continues to state that themembers of the project cannot dictate their scope nor tag articles they feel are in it. My bots tasks has been revoked which also means that the collaboration and Newsletter will stop because I simply don't have time to maintain those and manually do all the things the project needs. Weve done a lot of great work and we have come along way but I wanted to leave this message for those that might be watching that its very likely that the community will force us very soon to break apart. This means that each individual project that is supported by WPUS and makes up the common community will revert back into individual projects and that if a lwer echelon tag (such as a state tag) exists we won't be able to tag that article. This also means that the states can't tag the city articles and so on. So this means that this project will not be allowed to tag very much because almost all articles fall into one or more of the 100+ US related projects. --Kumioko (talk) 16:27, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

All this griping about what gets tagged as what is pretty silly, imo. Right now, we dual-tag many articles with WP:Kentucky and WP:Louisville tags, and I don't see a problem with that. I think one of the more useful things this project could do is develop a respected, highly-participatory A-class review process. Most of the state, city, and other projects under this one don't have enough regular contributors to sustain an A-class process on their own. Acdixon ^{(talk · contribs)} 16:36, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

(ec) Would you be so kind as to link me and other project members to the discussion where the community is going to force the project to break apart? Purplebackpack89≈≈≈≈ 16:40, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

I think this might be in more than one place. Here's part of it. And More on the noticeboard. Here's Big Hunk 'o it. Perhaps there is more elsewhere.Maile66 (talk) 19:10, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Should also point out that Kumioko (talk · contribs) just got blocked for edit warring over this project tagging issue. Not saying the block was justified or not (haven't looked into it) but just pointing out the user's inability to respond here for at least the next 31 hours or so. Acdixon ^{(talk · contribs)} 19:24, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes thats most of it. You can also see a small discussion on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Birds, User talk:Kumi-Taskbot and User talk:Markvs88. I got blcoked so I am leaving this one last post just to clear the loose ends. I apologize for the method I have to leave this but I have no choice and I'll probably get at least a block extension for doing it. I personally believe that I was blocked more to prevent me from fighting for the projects than anything else. With that said. If you want to keep the project running you are going to have to fight for it or else you may find that a minority of active editors will reduce its scope to nothing more than a shell and a noticeboard. I admit I find myself no longer desiring to participate in the pedia after it was made clear to me in multiple discussions by multiple editors that I was doing no good. Good luck. --Kumioko (talk) 19:26, 15 February 2012 (UTC)