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== Student signature ==
== Student signatures ==


I will ask students to remove signatures to their articles as requested, thanks for the heads up. Thanks also for additional resource links. FYI, the students will be working with me over the next week or two to clean up of references, etc. on the "Willow Bunch, Saskatchewan" page.
I will ask students to remove signatures to their articles as requested, thanks for the heads up. Thanks also for additional resource links. FYI, the students will be working with me over the next week or two to clean up of references, etc. on the "Willow Bunch, Saskatchewan" page.--[[User:Patricia W. Elliott|Patricia W. Elliott]] ([[User talk:Patricia W. Elliott|talk]]) 14:59, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

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Silvio Fazio, writer

Hello,I think now, it's okay. Bye, Perry — Preceding unsigned comment added by WHITEWHITE (talk • contribs) 14:44, 27 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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deletion of Faralyna_Idris

hi, may i know the user who set article Faralyna_Idris ? thank, it may help the article K9x (talk) 11:23, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It was Tizzaqyah (talk · contribs)--Jac16888 Talk 16:53, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Protection

What do you mean, "Pages are not protected pre-emptively", what's that suppose to mean? --Archcaster (talk) 13:44, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Jac, FYI this user has chosen to retire after I blocked them for edit warring. De728631 (talk) 14:47, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Seems pretty clear to me. No good reason = No protection, paricularly since you were clearly hat-collecting--Jac16888 Talk 15:43, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

User:Influencenyc

Hi Jac16888, the reason I tag this user as promotional is because the user's name is the company's name. Cheers.--I am One of Many (talk) 20:51, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You tagged the page as spam, which it is not, if you want to report the username then use WP:UAA, although as far as COI users go, this is clearly one of the good ones--Jac16888 Talk 20:53, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I see your point. The first sentence together with the user name is somewhat promotional, but the stuff he wrote afterwards is non-promotional. I'm not going to report the user name because he has not been around for several years and I agree with you that the name is not clearly connected with promotional content on the user page.--I am One of Many (talk) 21:27, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well no it's promotional, not really. If it was Influencenycisthebest, and the first line was "This is the user page of the amazing Mark Rose, Partner at Influence Consulting Inc., the best company in the world", that would be promotional, what is stated there is fact. And the fact he hasn't edited edited in nearly 4 years means that really going to the effort of reporting him for someone else to block or not is really just a waste of time since it doesn't achieve anything--Jac16888 Talk 21:34, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I will use stricter criteria in the future! Thanks.--I am One of Many (talk) 21:53, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Granata

Stubbing was a good idea! I'm reasonably proficient in Spanish, so I may do the re-translation myself at some point...just a matter of finding the time.WQUlrich (talk) 18:40, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. With articles like that stubbing or even deleting is almost always a better option. Despite what some people apparently believe tidying a poor translation is considerably more difficult than just translating properly.--Jac16888 Talk 18:43, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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update to KGCOE page

Hi, I would be like to know who you are and why you are updating the KGCOE page. I work for the college and would rather have people contact me about changes that need to be made. Please contact me at kmeeee@rit.edu

Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.21.11.137 (talk) 20:02, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It seems you are not aware of how Wikipedia works. Regardless of who you are the page does not belong to you, any editor is free to make any edits which are productive without having to notify anybody, particularly since you seem to be editing that page with biased content in violation of our conflict of interest policies--Jac16888 Talk 20:06, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A Journey for Return

Hi there,

Would like to know why have you deleted my page about a movie "A journey for return" ?

Because it did not indicate the notability of the subject, or in fact demonstrate that it was anything more than another internet video--Jac16888 Talk 11:15, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

OR dispute

Hi. If it's not too much trouble, could you comment at this talk page regarding an editor's OR addition to an article? Perhaps another consensus would benefit them and encourage more adherence to WP:NOR. Dan56 (talk) 21:57, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Deletion on Abhyuday School

Jac16888


I just saw you deleted Abhyuday School article stating it marketing article.

Would you please state me the detailed idea about why this is a marketing article even though there are many other India school's articles on Wikipedia


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daly_College http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayo_College http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delhi_Public_School,_Gwalior http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shemford

like wise I can give you numerous articles floating on Wikipedia. Its a community thing, information about a school. And education is a big thing in India. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhijeetsingh07 (talk • contribs) 06:53, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The content in that article was pure and blatant spam, the fact that there may be other articles about schools is of no relevance. I fyou want to write an article about the school please read Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools/Article guidelines, WP:BIAS and WP:REF--Jac16888 Talk 10:36, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Balinese cuisine

Hello Jac16888. Could you please move the Balinese cuisine list article that was deleted to my userspace or sandbox? I am interested in seeing what was there and working up a Balinese cuisine article. Thanks for your assistance. Candleabracadabra (talk) 20:05, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It was just a redirect to "List of Balinese cuisine", which itself was deleted because the only content was:
List of Balinese cuisine
--Jac16888 Talk 20:40, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Stop deleting my pages !! >:|

I want you to stop deleting my pages, if you do it again you will be blocked for a long time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Koolboy2001 (talk • contribs) 23:55, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

re Streptococal pharingitis

Thanks for the mail (and deletion).

The page should be in the sl corner. And it should not be created by me - I just translated the EN page you are mentioning for Slovenian language, long long time ago and finally got fed up waiting and barged in through the wrong door... Thanks for keeping the Wikipedia china intact, in spite of elephants like me dropping by (or better "dropping on it").

Regards

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Follow-up

Hi Jac16888, I am wondering if you could explain why this AIV report was marked staled and removed. Is there a time limit on addressing AIV reports? Best wishes Flat Out let's discuss it 21:02, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It was many hours old and had apparently stopped being an issue since the edits had stopped - AIV is for persistent vandals, we don't block an IP that stopped editing hours ago--Jac16888 Talk 21:09, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for taking the time to respond. If you don't mind I need a tip on how best to deal with this situation that arose at KRXI-TV. If you look at the last 3 pages of edit history there are dozens of edits from the same editor who is in the 75.15.*.* range, all without edit summary, and mostly deleting then re-adding the same content over and over. Every notice to the (many) I.P talk pages is reverted and article talk page is ignored. Flat Out let's discuss it 21:36, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
How very bizarre. I have semi-protected the page for a week to be going on with, WP:RFPP is the place for the future - just blocking ever changing IP's doesn't really solve anything--Jac16888 Talk 21:44, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I did put in a request for protection but withdrew it because I wasn't sure if it was over the top. Thanks again Flat Out let's discuss it 00:00, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Your deletion withdraw

This is not exactly a civil way to close a discussion, IMHO. -- cyclopiaspeak! 21:39, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And yet sadly accurate. There are far too many editors who spend their time playing the bureaucrat compared to those who are trying to improve things, even it makes burning the occasional dying tree to allow something new to grow--Jac16888 Talk 21:52, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
So you think you are the only editor trying to improve the encyclopedia, and everyone else is just being a bureaucrat to hinder your efforts? How sad.Edison (talk) 03:51, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"There are far editors who spend their time playing the bureaucrat compared to those who are trying to improve things" - Yet that's exactly what you did when you nominated the article for deletion: went for bureaucracy instead of improving the article. -- cyclopiaspeak! 11:43, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Not what I said edison, and read the full sentence cyclopia--Jac16888 Talk 17:22, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

jodhawat vyas is a true page yes I have some formate problem but its not fair to deleat artical like this at wiki please make is restore again it hurt fellings of all jodhawat vyas community . please restore it I will edit it with some good images and proofs. thanks

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Articles

Hi Jac 16888. Could you please move the Erich Schelling, ‎ Arturo Robledo Ocampo, and Miguel Angel Builes articles ‎to my userspace so I can work on them? Thank you. Candleabracadabra (talk) 11:29, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Steven D. Waldman and Steven D. Waldman, M.D., J.D.

Hi Jac16888, Please remove the full protection on Steven D. Waldman and Steven D. Waldman, M.D., J.D.; I have a new content for Steven D. Waldman and I would redirect Steven D. Waldman, M.D., J.D. to it. I made same request to Jimfbleak. Thank you. —JOHNMOORofMOORLAND (talk) 19:21, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The article was created multiple times under multiple titles and all as blatant spam. Before creating anything I suggest you create a version in your userspace, or at WP:AFC--Jac16888 Talk 20:36, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The Intern-DC mess

Thnaks. I got in over my head and wasn't sure how I was going to fix everything.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:03, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you

I am now aware that you helped fix an error-and so I just want to say thank you! I am clearly new to wikipedia-your help is greatly appreciated Intern-DC (talk) 14:45, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

St. Xavier's College, Kolkata

You had recently deleted the contribution link from the article. We had genuinely contributed to the same. Please let me know if this is by any means out out the policy. If so what are the other ways of making our contributions evident? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumesh Dugar (talk • contribs) 15:34, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Article contributors are shown on the history page, not on the article, thats all the credit you get - if we were to list all contributors to an article then there would be articles with lists a thousand entries long--Jac16888 Talk 20:35, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Marin Svemo Madunić

Why did you delete my first page so quickly? 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marin_Svemo_Maduni%C4%87

It was suposed to be a birthday present for my friend Was it realy necessary for you to delete it ?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matheo Lucić (talk • contribs) 22:10, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, because Wikipedia is not your personal webhost. If you want to make a joke about your friend I suggest you write it in his birthday card, it doesn't belong here--Jac16888 Talk 22:14, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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deleting roger j cheng

Why did you delete my entry Roger J. Cheng. The material written on that article is from me and Dr. Cheng. I own the copyright for everything that is cited there. I would appreciate having it placed back on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drittner (talk • contribs) 00:13, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I deleted it, and just did so again, because A) you have not gone through the proper channels to demonstrate that you own the text, and B) Even if you did we would not want the article as it stands, since it is blatantly promotional and you have made no effort to make it neutral and formatted correctly. Please do not restore it again--Jac16888 Talk 09:10, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Roger J. Cheng

You have deleted this twice. There is no copyright infringement. It is referring to my own copyrighted writing on the subject's Web page . You cannot infringe on your own copyrighted words. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.70.103.68 (talk) 14:21, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Cheng

Ok, I think I got it. Resubmitted. Thanks for your assistance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drittner (talk • contribs) 14:58, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Clearly you haven't, since the article is still overly promotional, written like a series of science journal articles, barely sourced and poorly formatted. Please read those pages again if you have not already done so--Jac16888 Talk 15:07, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There are 28 references to this article. What are you talking about poorly sourced. This is not promotional, it is a listing of the man's accomplishments. There are plenty of bullshit articles on this site that have less. There is no copyright infringement and if you google my name Don Rittner you will clearly see the sources are mine. They come from my articles and my encyclopedias. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drittner (talk • contribs) 19:11, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

All of the references are either to Chengs or, as you just admitted, your own work, please read our policy page about referencing which I have pointed you to repeatedly for what we actually need. The entire article reads more like a fluff piece bio combined with a few scientific journals than an actual encyclopedia article. Please read the various pages I have pointed you to on more than one occasion and try again, perhaps have a look at some other "bullshit articles" (perhaps some of those found here) and see what you should actually be doing, it's really not that difficult--Jac16888 Talk 19:19, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Venus Angelic

This is going to sound like an utter waste of time given the article is already up at Venus Palermo. However, could you move the deleted revisions of that page to the new title?--Launchballer 16:09, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Deletion of article सीरियाई गृहयुद्ध

Hi! I'd like to know why you deleted my article 'सीरियाई गृहयुद्ध' which I was simply developing as a Hindi translation of the page 'Syrian Civil War' to enable Hindi readers to benefit, too? Was it because I didn't cite references? I was planning to do that once I was through with translating the article. What you've given as a reason is "article that duplicates an existing topic: Syrian civil war". Isn't that what a translated article is supposed to be? Or is there a different procedure to translate an article? If yes, then what? Shalvi Garima Negi (talk) 11:41, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) This is the English language Wikipedia whose content shall be only in English. Articles in Hindi should be written at the Hindi Wikipedia. Therefore your article was deleted because it duplicated an existing topic on the English edition of Wikipedia. See also criterion for speedy deletion No. A10. De728631 (talk) 12:49, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I did create it in Hindi Wikipedia. At first I was making a mistake of creating it on English Wikipedia but then I did correct it and created it in Hindi Wikipedia. Thanks for the help anyway!Shalvi Garima Negi (talk) 14:17, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of article "Carmel (Car Service)"

Hello. This is Nir Kabessa, user nirkabessa. I was wondering what I need to do to NOT get my page deleted. It was deleted under the claim of unambiguous promotion. I am not doing this for promotion, I am genuinely trying to create an educational wikipage for the company my dad raised from the ground up. Look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hertz_Corporation. They do just as much to promote their company, if not more than I did on mine. What makes theirs stay up and mine deleted? Please give me feedback rather than deleting all my work. Thanks Nirkabessa (talk) 18:11, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Hertz page is written ina neutral, unbiased manner and demonstrates notability through the use of multiple 3rd party references. Since you have a clear conflict of interest here you should not be writing about your dads company anyway, if the subject is notable then somebody will independently write about it without your inherent bias--Jac16888 Talk 18:15, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You

Hi, Thank you for reviewing my userpage. Kindly redirect me to specific userpage guidelines. I would be more than happy to improve userpage as per policies and guidelines  :) AbhiSuryawanshi (talk) 18:15, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WP:UP#NOT is perfectly clear--Jac16888 Talk 18:17, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WHY

why did you remove the official page of Shekinah Ministries Suriname? By doing that you have put yourself under a curse it is a religious organisation which wants to help people !!!But anyway, thanks for spoiling our efforts of helping peoples — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leandro Mangar (talk • contribs) 18:35, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thats a good way to approach somebody. Anyway, reasons are: A) Not in English (this being the English Wikipedia), B) Nothing to indicate notability and C) Clearly biased and promotional--Jac16888 Talk 18:38, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Caldesia parnassifolia

Hi! I'd like to know why you deleted my article Caldesia parnassifolia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruppia2000 (talk • contribs) 00:50, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't, the page was moved to your userspace, User:Ruppia2000/Caldesia parnassifolia, for you to work on it. I simply deleted the link which was left behind--Jac16888 Talk 10:08, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Daniel Missen

Hello jac16888 I happen to notice that a article was deleted Daniel Missen (broadcaster) and I was wondering if you could get it back working again what had happen? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.170.127.240 (talk) 06:10, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I deleted it, because despite all the fluff there was nothing to demonstrate any actual notability--Jac16888 Talk 10:10, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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QubitTV

I notice you just deleted this. Are you sure that there was no explanation of its significance? I am not a Spanish speaker, but it appeared to me potentially to pass CSD, despite being in Spanish. If you look at my talk page I was trying and failing to upload it to the Spanish WIkipedia. Fiddle Faddle 16:47, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Meh, to me it didn't seem remotely notable, just an online video sharing servive. And WP:TRANSWIKI is the way you move a page to another Wikipedia, although you need special permissions to be able to do it--Jac16888 Talk 16:49, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Seems not to be the way to do it, but the ned has passed now :) That seems to be to other non WIkipedia things Fiddle Faddle 17:01, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

QubitTV article

QubitTV is an organization. Should we include more data in the Infobox organization? Regarding the language, we are about to upload the english version.

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AOL Radio

Please advise on the proper way to update the page with current AOL data. Jdzarlino[1]Kiwanis2015 (talk) 13:27, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not randomly posting an unnecessary link in the middle of sentence would be a good place to start--Jac16888 Talk 14:11, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Page removal

Hi, I am new to Wikipedia and a page I just created was removed soon after it went live:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_Montgomery

I would be extremely grateful if you could provide me with a more detailed explanation, so that I can avoid making the same mistake a second time.

Thank you so much for your time! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emitno (talk • contribs) 03:26, 12 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A)It was overly promotional and B) this is the English Wikipedia, i.e. English content--Jac16888 Talk 17:45, 12 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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BESTFRIENDS

16:25, 13 September 2013 Jac16888 (talk | contribs) deleted page BESTFRIENDS (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion) The bands bio is not promotional or advertising. Please explain your deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ttloree (talk • contribs) 19:50, 13 September 2013‎ (UTC)[reply]

It was very promotional, and there was nothing to suggest this group is at all notable. Hence the deletion--Jac16888 Talk 19:11, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The bio written for the band was from a neutral standpoint. From the claim you are making, you should be pretty busy deleting the rest of the band pages people have posted to the site. Though I also appreciate your music knowledge, as I am sure it is as good as your ability to delete pages, this band is notable, and you are not the say in whether or not they are anyways. If you would like to point out specific parts of the bio that was promotional, I will consider revision, but if not I plan on re-creating the page and it being allowed to stand, just like all the other band pages I see here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ttloree (talk • contribs) 17:37, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Write an article which is neutral, which has multiple reliable third party references, which is not written more like a press-release than an encyclopedia article, which is about more than just a label-less self-publishing duo and which, now that I look at it, is not a clear copyright violation, then we can talk. Recreate it as it was and I'll just delete it again, and lock it from being recreated--Jac16888 Talk 19:29, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

How to restore https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AEGON_Religare_Life_Insurance

Hi Jac 16888

We had made a page for AEGON Religare Life Insurance on wiki

Link for the same is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AEGON_Religare_Life_Insurance

Created it from username: anisbudye

Need your help only restoring the page.....we are ready to add/delete and modify content as per your requirement

Please help

Regards, Anis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anisbudye (talk • contribs) 11:40, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Since you're saying "We" I'm assuming you are part of the company - I'm also basing this assumption on the fact that the article was a blatant advert, written from the point of view of the company. Since you have a clear conflict of interest and therefore an unavoidable bias you should not be writing about the company at all. There was next to nothing in the article you created that would be of use in a new article--Jac16888 Talk 16:49, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

User:Ninathedentist/Alvaro Tamarit

Please can you move my contribution to my sandbox and invisible to the public or delete it permanently as when I google "alvaro tamarit", the page User:Ninathedentist/AlvaroTamarit comes up. I would like to translate the page properly and resubmit. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ninathedentist (talk • contribs) 19:39, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have moved the page back to User:Ninathedentist/ÁLVARO TAMARIT (WP:MOVE has a helpful guide by the way) and I've added a template to the page that will mean it eventually stop appearing on google, that won't happen right away though--Jac16888 Talk 19:50, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Too many deletions based on notability

I think you delete articles too quickly based on what you see as a lack of notability. Your other reasons for deleting (not in English, biased/promotional, etc.) are good, but in my opinion, it harms Wikipedia significantly to delete sourced articles because they don't meet a subjective threshold of notability. On some of these obscure topics, Wikipedia was the best source of information available anywhere on the internet, right up until the point when you deleted the page because you didn't deem it appropriately notable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:1998:860:1005:6569:A100:AF6E:8808 (talk) 19:49, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Presumably you are primarily referring to Around (album), an article I deleted 2 years ago via Prod (A system where the slightest objection means that it must have a discussion before it can be deleted). Nobody objected to the prod, nor has any attempt to restore the page been made in the two years since there, which seems to me a pretty clear indicator of how important this album is. Please read this page about our notabilty policies, and I would also like to point out that the article in question did not have a single reference or external link, or indeed any content beyond a release date and a track listing--Jac16888 Talk 20:49, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi and thanks for fixing the boo-boo on my edit on Cass Sunstein! Can you explain how my signature ended up in the article? (I'm kind of new to wikipedia) Costatitanica (talk) 20:11, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No idea, you probably just hit the sig button by mistake--Jac16888 Talk 20:20, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Tin Box

Thank you for your clean up of the Tin box note. Do you have any comments on the merge proposal on the talk page? Pkgx (talk) 15:49, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

LERATA Org Deletion

Hello! I see our page was deleted. This is the LERATA organization page.

We are a nonprofit, that has been in existence since 2012.

Under my direction, numerous years of events have been produced.

For LERATA specifically, we launched a project in Chicago called LEVEL this past September.

You can visit the website and go to LEVEL to see more information about this event. Or you can visit the many website that carried the same information, such as Bustler here: http://www.bustler.net/index.php/event/level_2013/ Architecture Chicago Plus here: http://arcchicago.blogspot.com/2013/09/chicago-under-dome-only-through-sunday.html Inhabitat here: http://inhabitat.com/the-level-2013-contemporary-art-and-architecture-festival-kicks-off-this-month-in-chicago/ And numerous others.

We are also planning a city-wide large event in Los Angeles called SKYLINE which is featured on Rhizome here: http://rhizome.org/announce/opportunities/59898/view/ Again on Bustler here: http://www.bustler.net/index.php/description/skyline_2014_los_angeles_new_annual_free_ten-day_architecture_art_and_techn/ Los Angeles Art Resource here: http://losangelesartresource.wordpress.com/2013/10/11/1011-calls-for-entry-3/

Just to name a few.

Our website lists all of the past and current projects here: http://lerata.org/

Do let me know what information is needed from us to ensure the page is active.

You can also visit facebook at facebook.com/lerataorg to see our recent event images/videos/sponsors and more.

We certainly exist - and as a nonprofit, having our name searchable and accurate is very meaningful to us.

Thank you for your help!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cadencejane (talk • contribs) 00:14, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You should not be writing about LERATA at all, as you have a clear and unavoidable conflict of interest, which causes an inherent bias. In addition the article had nothing to indicate any notability, in particular any reliable 3rd party references (i.e. not blogs or press releases). Please read Wikipedia:Your first article--Jac16888 Talk 00:24, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Dalian No. 8 High School

I had been translating it, mate. putting up that {{not English}} is just a habit being a patroller back in the wikipedia of my own lang. no reason for your speedy deletion. pls undo your deletion or at least put the last edition on my sandbox. best regards. Bluedeck 04:34, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WP:TRANSLATION is the correct procedure for that, what you did is not. I have restored the page to User:Bluedeck/Dalian No. 8 High School, please ensure it is properly translated before moving it to the mainspace--Jac16888 Talk 10:19, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Deletion of Article "Cam Meekins"

Hi, it seems to me that the deletion of the page Cam Meekins on notability grounds was unwarranted. Cam Meekins is an artist signed to a major label (Giant Records/Atlantic Records) with multiple records on iTunes and other online/brick and mortar music vendors. He has headlined at least one national tour, and recently won "Best New Artist" at the Boston Music Awards. It seems like an article on Wikipedia would be valid for the many people (like myself) who would like to know more about him.

I don't know how the impartiality/formatting of the previous article was, but 1) It appears to be deleted solely on the grounds of notability and 2) even if the article was sub-par, a better course of action would be improvement rather than deletion. Furthermore, he is referenced on his brother's page (figure skater Drew Meekins) which contains third party sources referencing Cam Meekins, and the list of current Atlantic Records artists page, and he's been the subject of articles in the Boston Globe. I appreciate your self-awarded position as the arbiter of notability, but I think in this instance the article should be restored. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.64.187.72 (talk) 05:50, 20 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It was very warranted. A) The page was blantaly promotional ("He also is the coolest person i know"), b) there was no indication of any notability, other than having made a few mix-tapes - none of the things you say above were mentioned, and having a famous brother does not make him notable, and c) there were no references to indicate any notability. I will not be restoring the article, if you think there should be one then you are welcome to use the WP:AFC system to attempt to write one yourself--Jac16888 Talk 12:40, 20 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Obviously having a famous brother does not make one notable, but those other pages do show the article was not an island. I don't have time to write a whole article from scratch, but I might have time to edit and improve an existing one. Regardless, the significance and references exist to make this article legitimate.
Well somebody else will have to create a new one then, as I have no intention of restoring it as it was--Jac16888 Talk 17:52, 20 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Adrián Sosa Nuez

Hello Jac. Im sorry if the article "Adrián Sosa Nuez" couldn´t be interested, but i disagree. I request to you to wacht better my sources in internet. The reasons are the numerous websites, the diary visits in mi book blog and the big posibilities with a wiki to read by the people a new versión of the "Artabán", I'd continue puting more and more information of my carreer and of new books that i will write, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adriansosa24 (talk • contribs) 23:00, 25 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:NOTE, WP:REF and WP:COI. --Jac16888 Talk 23:17, 25 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion under G2

Hello, Jac16888! Just out of curiosity: I noticed you recently deleted the page User:S.Krishnan with the comment “G2: Test page“, but the linked section says “This criterion does not apply to pages in the user namespace …“. Was this an accident, or are there exceptions not mentioned on the CSD page?—Odysseus1479 00:29, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Emailed you--Jac16888 Talk 10:02, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks; replied.—Odysseus1479 18:31, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sankararamank

Hello Sir This is K.Sankararaman. I Request You To Please Delete The Page S.Krishnan Because it is Unwanted Page for me it is not Useful so Please delete that page. —Preceding undated comment added 02:06, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

It has already been deleted--Jac16888 Talk 10:03, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Need help for article - Kaappi marangalkkidayile penkutty

Hello sir. Thanks for your work. May I know why the deletion and re-direct of this page happened. This book was a 'known'short story collection in Malayalam. May I request you, pls re-store the article, Kaappi marangalkkidayile penkutty — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikikl (talk • contribs) 05:24, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I redirected Kaappi marangalkkidayile penkutty because it showed no indication of notability, had no reliable third party references and no actual content beyond the list of titles--Jac16888 Talk 10:05, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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It wasn't another persons comment, the spoiler warning, that is — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pubserv (talk • contribs) 16:34, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You added text into the middle of anothers persons sentence, implying they wrote it, which is a major no-no. Besides, we don't do spoiler warnings (and I fail to see the spoiler in there anyway)--Jac16888 Talk 17:37, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Dude, where's my article?

Hi, I created a new article for Ty Granderson Jones. The article was deleted for copyright violation. However, the material I used was attributed, in the public domain, and had no copyright. I rewrote some of the article and and made the source more apparent:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Melwood19/sandbox

Does this cut the mustard (it's my first article, so I want a second opinion)? Melwood19 (talk) 23:04, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There is nothing on the page to say it is public domain content as far as I can see, you should have just written the article from scratch rather than trying to change copied text. The article itself does little to suggest any real notability, and has no reliable sources or references--Jac16888 Talk 23:38, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You wrote: "There is nothing on the page to say it is public domain content as far as I can see, you should have just written the article from scratch rather than trying to change copied text."
Check the specific link that I used as a reference in the deleted article. Then check the entire website that the link I used as a reference belongs to. It's not copyrighted. . . it's in the public domain. But I rewrote some of the material anyway.
You wrote: "The article itself does little to suggest any real notability, and has no reliable sources or references"
He was mentioned on other wikipedia articles as a cast member. Specifically, on CB4 and WIGS. However, he didn't have an article like the other cast members. This was one of the reasons why I created an article for him (I was going to create an article and link to it from those articles). How can all the other cast members be notable and worthy of an artlce, but not him? Melwood19 (talk) 00:42, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I can see nothing on that website to say that it is public domain, not saying it's copyrighted is not enough. The fact that he happened to be in another article doesn't make him automatically notable, references do, of which there are none.--Jac16888 Talk 17:50, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You wrote: "I can see nothing on that website to say that it is public domain, not saying it's copyrighted is not enough."
I agree with you that it's best to err on the side of caution and assume copyright. That's why I rewrote the article even though there was no mention of copyright on the website.
You wrote: "The fact that he happened to be in another article doesn't make him automatically notable, references do, of which there are none."
No references? Are you sure we're talking about the same article? As for notability, I wasn't suggesting that simply being mentioned in another wikipedia article was evidence of notability. Just making an observation. . .
Melwood19 (talk) 23:45, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Changing a few words here and there is not enough - you should be writing in your own words, and unless the content is explictly shown to be free to use, you can't use it. And yes we're talking about the same article, I see a few press releases and vanity pages - these are not reliable references in any way--Jac16888 Talk 17:15, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You wrote: "Changing a few words here and there is not enough - you should be writing in your own words, and unless the content is explictly shown to be free to use, you can't use it."

I didn't just change "a few words here and there". The article is appreciably different than the source. Here's the Duplicate Detector report:

https://tools.wmflabs.org/dupdet/compare.php?url1=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fw%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DTy_Granderson_Jones%26action%3Drender&url2=http%3A%2F%2Ftygrandersonjones.com%2Findex2.html&minwords=3&minchars=13&removequotations=&removenumbers

Even content written in my own words can't avoid using certain phrases (like the names of the films and TV shows he's in, etc.). As for the copyright issue, I already agreed with you in my previous comment that it's best to err on the side of caution.

You wrote: "And yes we're talking about the same article, I see a few press releases and vanity pages - these are not reliable references in any way"

No, apparently we're not talking about the same article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ty_Granderson_Jones). The article didn't reference any "vanity pages". The subject is not an author and didn't pay anyone to publish any book. The article does use his personal website as a reference which is in line with wiki guidelines:

"Living persons may publish material about themselves, such as through press releases or personal websites. Such material may be used as a source only if:

"1. it is not unduly self-serving; 2. it does not involve claims about third parties; 3. it does not involve claims about events not directly related to the subject; 4. there is no reasonable doubt as to its authenticity; 5. the article is not based primarily on such sources."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Using_the_subject_as_a_self-published_source

In addition, the article uses reliable third-party sources like Playbill, Canyon News, the UCSD website, and the Internet Movie Database (who's content is reviewed by a section manager). However, even if the article didn't use any reliable sources, I think an article should be allowed to be improved over time by the editors and not be subject to the arbitrary whims of an administrator per wiki guidelines:

"An article without third-party sources should not always be deleted. The article may merely be in an imperfect state, and someone may only need to find the appropriate sources to verify the subject's importance. Consider asking for help with sources at the article's talk page, or at the relevant WikiProject. Also consider tagging the article with an appropriate template, such as {{primary sources}} or {{unreferenced}}."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Third_party#Articles_without_third-party_sources

Melwood19 (talk) 21:22, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You don't have to keep telling me what I wrote you, after all I wrote it. All you have done is paraphrased the content, which still makes it a copyvio. Self published references are not enough to establish notability (point 5 as you noted above "Such material may be used as a source only if...the article is not based primarily on such sources", and the other references provided do not do so either, to break them down: IMDB is not a reliable reference (Wikipedia:External links/Perennial websites#IMDb), the alumni page is self-published and therefore of no value, as his own website, the Canyon news page allows anybody to submit an article as has clearly happened here ("This article was a contribution made by an outside agency or person. The content has not been verified by Canyon News.") it is clearly just a press release, the SAG page is just a cv and the playbill is the only one which is just about passable - and it only mention him in passing. Barring the copyright issue for now, if you are unable to come up with better sources than these I will have to nominate this page for deletion - as it currently stands there is nothing to suggest it belongs here--Jac16888 Talk 21:32, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You wrote: "You don't have to keep telling me what I wrote you, after all I wrote it."
I keep telling you what you wrote so you'll know what part of your comment I'm responding to. And because you have a tendency of being all over the place with what you write. First it was "copied text," so I rewrote the article. Then it was "no sources," so I pointed out the sources. Then it was no "reliable sources," so I showed how they were reliable. Now it's the source is "just about passable". So I'm obliged to point out that it's not "just about passable," but it is passable.
You wrote: "All you have done is paraphrased the content, which still makes it a copyvio."
The article is not a paraphrase of the source, it's substantially different. Again, refer to the Duplicate Detector report
You wrote: "Self published references are not enough to establish notability"
Only his website, the alumni page, and the iActor reference is self published.
You wrote: "the Canyon news page allows anybody to submit an article as has clearly happened here ("This article was a contribution made by an outside agency or person. The content has not been verified by Canyon News.") it is clearly just a press release"
The article is not based primarily on the Canyon News source, and it's clearly an interview not a press release.
You wrote: "Barring the copyright issue for now, if you are unable to come up with better sources than these I will have to nominate this page for deletion - as it currently stands there is nothing to suggest it belongs here"
Please do. And in the meantime, I'll take this up with the appropriate dispute resolution channels. Unfortunately, the weekend is coming to an end, and I don't have as much time to devote to this. Melwood19 (talk) 23:19, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
sigh You keep telling me what I wrote, and yet you don't seem to be paying any actual notice of it. The issue is not changing, the issue is all of them, it may be a copyvio and the sources are not reliable so there are effectively no sources. But fine, lets break this down:
"The article is not a paraphrase of the source, it's substantially different"
"Ty Granderson Jones was born in Tampa Bay, Florida after his family migrated from New Orleans' French Quarters. He's a protégé of the late iconic theatre director, Alan Schneider, and a former student of the late Lee Strasberg" is extremely close to "Ty Granderson Jones was born in Tampa Bay, Florida. His family moved there from New Orleans, Louisiana. He's a student of the late theatre director, Alan Schneider, and the late Lee Strasberg.". Different enough that I decided not to delete it outright, but still a little too close for comfort.
"Only his website, the alumni page, and the iActor reference is self published"
If you take away those that leaves only the playbill page and the Canyon page, neither enough to support the article
"The article is not based primarily on the Canyon News source, and it's clearly an interview not a press release"
If the page is not based primarily on this, and it is not based on the self-published sources shown above, well there are no sources left. And you miss my point when stating the disclaimer, I am saying that this article is not published by Canyon, it is published by "Contributor" a person who, judging by the promotional language of the interview almost certainly has a vested interest the subject.
I am not trying to threaten you here, rather stating that in my opinion, born of a lot of experience, the article does not currently belong on Wikipedia, unless more substantial references can be found--Jac16888 Talk 19:28, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You wrote: "sigh You keep telling me what I wrote, and yet you don't seem to be paying any actual notice of it."
I am taking notice of what you write. . . I just don't agree with it. In fact, I was closer to your point of view at the beginning of this exchange than I am now. But the more I read your reasons, or rationalizations, for deleting the article, the less I find myself agreeing with your point of view. (Note: I'm talking about the current article, not the previous one. We were in agreement about the defects of that one.)
You wrote: "The issue is not changing, the issue is all of them, it may be a copyvio and the sources are not reliable so there are effectively no sources."
It's not copyvio. But you're right when you say it's "a little too close for comfort". To play it safe, it should be rewritten (which shouldn't be difficult since it's just a sentence). Though someone already inexplicably deleted the entire section, not just that one sentence.
You wrote: "If you take away those that leaves only the playbill page and the Canyon page, neither enough to support the article"
Of course they don't support the article. How could one or two references support an entire article? One or two references can establish the notability of the subject and support a particular part of the article that is relevant to them. However, only in the aggregate can the references support the article as a whole. As I said in my previous comment, however, I think editors should be allowed to improve the article over time. Placing the appropriate template to alert other editors to what needs to be worked on, or improving it yourself, seems to be a better solution than just deleting it (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Third_party#Articles_without_third-party_sources). Isn't deleting an article when the problems (real or imagined) can be fixed by other editors a bit procrustean?
You wrote: "If the page is not based primarily on this, and it is not based on the self-published sources shown above, well there are no sources left."
If self-published material doesn't violate any of the conditions mentioned in the guidelines (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Using_the_subject_as_a_self-published_source), why can't it be used as a source?.
You wrote: "And you miss my point when stating the disclaimer, I am saying that this article is not published by Canyon, it is published by "Contributor" a person who, judging by the promotional language of the interview almost certainly has a vested interest the subject."
That's speculation on your part. And "almost certainly" is oxymoronic
You wrote: "I am not trying to threaten you here, rather stating that in my opinion, born of a lot of experience, the article does not currently belong on Wikipedia, unless more substantial references can be found"
And I value your opinion. I wouldn't have solicited your opinion in my initial comment if I didn't. But, after giving it some thought, I respectfully disagree with it. I wish you'd also value other editor's opinions as much as you apparently value your own. Melwood19 (talk) 16:04, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Green Eyed Monster

Your removal of my link comes across as an act of jealousy and vandalism. Pathetic to say the least. Djln --Djln (talk) 19:59, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Grow up. I removed it because links from the mainspace to the userspace are not allowed. Why exactly would I be jealous? Not exactly a big achievement for you to have a book that you had to pay to have published. Be grateful I didn't remove it altogether--Jac16888 Talk 20:09, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Quoting petty rules and regs just proves how pathetic and petty you actually are. Regardless whether my book was self published or not it was still published and made a profit. Have you had a book published ? I suspect not, loser. Djln --Djln (talk) 20:53, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well, you've caught me, having read your fantastic book I was overcome with jealousy of your talent, and the no doubt boundless riches it gave to you. As a consequence I decided I would punish you by not allowing you to link to your userpage. Although judging by the tantrum you've decided to throw if I had being trying to punish you I apparently hit you right where it hurts - in the space of 3 lines you've called me jealous, a vandal, pathetic, petty and a loser, all because I won't let you include a link which you're not supposed to include. And since you were kind enough to bring it to my attention WP:SPS is wikipedia policy, and as such I'll be removing the self-published, unreliable sources which you have attempted to add to Wikipedia--Jac16888 Talk 22:04, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oh my god ! Wow. Thats a rant and a half and it only goes to prove my point even further. If you believe my book is an unreliable source go ahead, remove it from sources and demomstrate even further what a pathetic loser you are. But I promise you I will appeal and you will end looking like the fool which you are Djln--Djln (talk) 23:55, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Please do go ahead and report me, you might want to read WP:BOOMERANG first though. Also [1] is absolutely hilarious.--Jac16888 Talk 10:21, 9 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I can honestly say that I have never seen a worse case of success going to one's head before in my life.--Launchballer 10:43, 9 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm not sure that your deletion of Tekken 7 under WP:CSD#G4 was appropriate. The discussion took place seven years ago. Surely, the situation for the game may have changed since then. (Admittedly, all I've seen are rumors and whisperings on various fan sites, which would certainly call for a deletion, but not under G4.) WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:57, 16 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies. I was not aware there had been a second discussion only a few months ago. Sorry. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:59, 16 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The two versions were identical in the sense that both were unsourced fan-speculation with nothing whatsoever to back it up, the only difference being that this time somebody decided to include a long list of made up characters/levels etc. Saw no reason to let this sit for another week so I killed it, G4 was just convenient--Jac16888 Talk 17:05, 16 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Would you mind assessing more broadly the way SHFW70 was behaving before you commented, and is behaving since you commented on his talk page. Thanks. --Epipelagic (talk) 00:44, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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