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== 1453 was an inside job ==

Long live Byzantium. Ottoman cannons don't breach Byzantine walls.

[[User:Will2022|<b style="color:#4B0082">Will</b><b style="color:#FF0000">20</b><b style="color:#0000FF">22</b>]] ([[User talk:Will2022|talk]] 12:34, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

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Zagori

Έχω αρκετές πηγές, απλά συγυρίζω την ελληνική wiki και με έχει πάει λίγο πίσω στο πρόγραμμα. Έγραψα και άρθρο για τον Ψαλίδα, τους Ζωσιμάδες, τη Ζωσιμαία, εννοιείται πως θα τα γράψω και στα αγγλικά. Θα γράψω το Κουκούλι, το Μονοδένδρι και το Τσεπέλοβο για αρχή. ελπίζω σε 1-2 μήνες να είναι ολοκληρομένα όλα. Επίσης λέω στην template να προσθέσω και τα μοναστήρια της περιοχής.Alexikoua (talk) 13:56, 22 October 2008 (UTC)~[reply]

Hi Michael. I put an infobox in the Zagoria article. Πίστευω είναι οκ. Προσπαθώ να φτιάξω πίνακα που να περιέχει τα χωριά της περιοχής ανά γεωγραφική υποδιαίρεση (ανατολικό, δυτικό, κεντρικό ζαγόρι), ώστε να είναι πιο εύκολη η πρόσβαση σε όλα τα χωριά. Θα εμφανίζονται έτσι και τα 44 χωριά πιάνοντας μίση το πολύ οθόνη. Ξέρεις καθόλου από πίνακες;Alexikoua (talk) 13:25, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Πρόσεξα ότι υπάρχει άρθρο με τον τίτλο Έλληνες της Αλβανίας, συμφωνείς να το μετονομάσουμε σε 'Βορειοηπειρώτες'?Alexikoua (talk) 19:46, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Καλή και δίκαια ιδέα μου φαίνεται. Εν τω μεταξύ, έλεγξε αυτό.Πήγαινε επίσης στην λίστα των μελών του WP:GREECE, και ξαναβάλε τον εαυτό σου στα active members.--Michael X the White (talk) 19:56, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Γεια πατριώτη! Βλέποντας την ιστορία κάποιον χωριών του Ζαγορίου βλέπω ότι ενώ η ιστόρια είναι λίγο πολύ η ίδια, ειδικά στην Τουρκοκρατία, υπάρχουν κάποιοι όροι που μεταφράζονται διαφορετικά στα αγγλικά, ενώ μιλάμε για το ίδιο ακριβώς. Π.χ. Το κοινο του Ζαγορίου, είναι και coalition και Leage και Alliance of Zagori. Εγώ θα προτιμούσα το League.

Θυμάσαι πως λέγανε την συνθήκη μεταξύ Ζαγοροχωριών και Οθωμανών το 1430; το site του Κουκουλίου την ονομάζει 'συνθήκη Βοϊνίκου', αλλά δεν το'χω δει πουθενά αλλού γραμμένο.

Αν θες γενικά, στήλε μου μήνυμα μέσω mail από την user page μου για να το διαβάζω κατευθείαν. Ενεργοποιήσε κι εσύ αυτή την λειτουργία να' μαστε πιο online--Alexikoua (talk) 17:11, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

MABH

Όποτε μπορέσεις ρίξε μια ματιά στο άρθρο:Μέτωπο Απελευθέρωσης Βορείου Ηπείρου, στην ελληνική wiki. Προσπάθησα να βρω όσο το δυνατό πιο ουδέτερες πηγές. Δυστυχώς δεν έχει γίνει ούτε μια δημοσίευση στην Αγγλική γλώσσα σε αυτό το θέμα. Μελλοντικά θα το μεταφράσω. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexikoua (talk • contribs) 10:39, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kitsos

Ήταν πράγματι πολύ μεγάλη μορφή, κρίμα που δεν μπόρεσα να πάω στο μνημόσυνο στην Ριζάρειο. Πολύ καλή δουλειά. Έγραψα για τον Μάνθο Οικονόμου. Αν θες ρίξε μια ματιά στην συζήτηση για τη Χειμάρρα. Κάποιος προσπαθεί να πείσει ότι η δημοτικότητα του ελληνικού κόμματος στην πόλη δεν έχει καμιά σχέση με το αν υπάρχουν Έλληνες εκεί. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexikoua (talk • contribs) 06:20, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pyrros

Έχω γράψει στην ελληνική wiki τους: Ριζάρηδες, τον Σπ. Σπυρομήλιο, και τον Ιωάννη Πάγκα (ευεργέτη από Κορυτσά). Θα γράψω και τις αγγλικές τους μεταφράσεις. Αν ενδιαφέρεσαι για επιπλέον βιβλία ενδιαφέρον είναι της Εκδοτικής Αθηνών: Ηπείρος, 4000 χρόνια Ελληνισμού που αναφέρει λεπτομερειακά τις πηγές που χρησιμοποιεί, ανά παράγραφο. Και η ιστορία του Ελληνικού Έθνους (1897-1918), από τις ίδιες εκδόσεις. Alexikoua (talk) 11:24, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ένα ακόμη κομπλεξικό που παίζει με τις λέξεις είναι ο emperordarius. Έιναι μια χαρά του άρθρο τώρα, το' χω βάλει και στην watchlist. Θα ξεκινήσω άρθρο για το 'Κουκούλι' και το 'Μονοδένδρι', για το ζαγόρι. Εσύ από πιο χωριό είσαι φίλε; Alexikoua (talk) 10:15, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Zagori

Sure, i come from Zagori (Κουκούλι). I'm interested in adding usefull information about the region of Epirus. Έχω βαρεθεί να σβήνω τις ασυναρτησίες που γράφουν ειδικά στο άρθρο Χειμάρρα. Φυσικά μπορούμε να συνδιάσουμε τς ενέργειές μας. Τις επόμενες μέρες θα προσθέσω υλικό για το θέμα των Τσάμιδων και σκέφτομαι να δημιουργήσω άρθρο με τον τίτλο Ηπειρώτες ευεργέτες. Χάρικα πολύ πατριτώτη ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexikoua (talk • contribs) 05:00, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Signing posts

Hi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. On many keyboards, the tilde is entered by holding the Shift key, and pressing the key with the tilde pictured. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you!

You won't have to keep writing it in yourself this way. :) Kafka Liz (talk) 16:57, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well,thanks:)! As a matter of fact I do sign all my posts that way (with the 4 tildes). I'd just like to know which article you're reffering to. Perhaps it seems like I write it all myself, because I don't have a user page yet, so a link does not appear.
Anyway thanks! Michael IX the White 14:43, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Solved the problem! Now the link appears! xd --Michael IX the White (talk) 17:20, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there. I didn't mean to ignore your question -- I'm glad it all got worked out! Again, welcome, Kafka Liz (talk) 14:15, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The WikiProject Greece August 2008 newsletter

The August 2008 issue of the WikiProject Greece newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.--Yannismarou (talk) 10:40, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Yanni.--Michael X the White (talk) 18:19, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Greece situates partially in Asia

You write here:

I agree with you in terms of geography. However, islands like these are considered to belong to the continent their country belongs.

What is the source e. g. that Bozcaada/Tenedos island is in Asia, but Symi as if in Europe? The owner of islands does not explain it, look at for example the Spain-owned Canary Islands (in Africa) and also the Italy-owned Pantelleria and Pelagie Islands (in Africa).
--PKo (talk) 19:21, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Look, I think you are geographically ( and geologically) right. If you also find and provide reference(s) to support your statement ( that the islands are in Asia ), there will be no problem in backing it in the article talk page.So please try and find a book that agrees with you and then it will be easier for the rest of us to do so,too.--Michael X the White (talk) 20:38, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New page

I have created the page: Greek minority in Albania. Please contribute.balkanian (talk) 13:10, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you.--Michael X the White (talk) 15:23, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. Is that the exact quote? And please give me the exact title of the book and its ISBN. Once again thank you.balkanian (talk) 16:41, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again.balkanian (talk) 17:18, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see. Thanksbalkanian (talk) 17:35, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I wonder if in Babiniotis is anything about Cham Albanians the etymology of the word, etc. Can you check it for me?balkanian (talk) 18:22, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanksbalkanian (talk) 19:53, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cham Albanians

Since you have Babiniotis's work, could you please help me (or help balkanian) verify and incorporate some extra information into the reference citations attributed to it? So far, the citations need page number, place of publication, and year of publication. I would greatly appreciate your help. Thanks. Deucalionite (talk) 23:39, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanksbalkanian (talk) 15:30, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Maps

The main question is what maps our sources offer us, in order to turn them into webmaps, which can be used by the project and the article. For instance, as I mentioned in the article's talk page, as far as the "Macedonia" section is concerned Vacalopoulos provides an excellent map in page 607-608. In page 618 there is another one about the retreat of the Greek forces, but two maps for one section is maybe overdue (unless we put them side by side). These are fine source maps for your friend to turn them into svg (or I don't know what other file he might use) maps that we can then upload to the project.

I don't know what the printed sources of yours may also have in terms of maps and how your friend could make use of them, but as far as Internet is concerned I did not manage to find something else except for Vacalopoulos. But I'll keep searching.--Yannismarou (talk) 08:23, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A little more help

Hi, User:Deucalionite asks if do you have "the page numbers for the reference citations you provided from Babiniotis? Also, could you provide any publication data (i.e. where the book was published, who published it, year of publication)?" Can you help us?balkanian (talk) 11:28, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ancient Greek

There is a debate between me and Future Perfect on a map he is creating where he insists on depicting ancient Macedonia as a conclusively and indisputably non-Greek speaking region. Please check it out for I am really tired to be treated as an ultra nationalist even when demanding the obvious... to even denote the possibility that ancient Macedonian was a Greek dialect, a possibility (probability) that Wikipedia of course accepts...

GK1973 (talk) 22:07, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Canvassing

This [1] type of canvassing will not be tolerated. Fut.Perf. ☼ 21:20, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I feel honored, this being the first time you threaten me!! Thanks!--Michael X the White (talk) 18:25, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Retard

You retard Gayreek stop displaying fake information like Pyrrhus(which clearly was Illiryan, not gayreek) or other racist fake stuff like saying that Molossians were Greek. So shut the fuck up and stop editing, fucking gayreek.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Emperordarius (talk • contribs) 21:39, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Classy. ·ΚΕΚΡΩΨ· 06:36, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

looking for input

Mike I've added a bunch of points on the Macedonian Dispute talk page (the section that refers to FYROM officials admitting they are not related to ancient Macedonians and others giving a contradicting story of their ethnicity. (which I don't think many people involved with the issues realize). I therefore think some (if not all) of the points would be a valuable edition to the article (especially the quotes). However, it needs to be fit-in somewhere logically. I'd appreciate some input. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crossthets (talk • contribs) 02:10, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

About minorities

Greece does not recognise that there are ethnic minorities in Greece. If Greece would recognise that there is a turkisht minority for example, than we would not disagree about the number, becouse it would be a result of a census. But, as long as Greece does say that there is no person of another ethnicity that is a Greek national, and other sources state that there are groups of other ethnicities that are Greek nationals (see factbook for example) than it isn`t we that question Greece`s position, but all others that question it. Just per talk, do you belive that there is no ethnic minority in Greece?balkanian (talk) 14:34, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


I do. And there's why: There are three claims of ethnic minorities:1)Albanian (Tsam) 2) FYROM (Slavs) 3) Turkish. Let's begin from the third, that I believe is 100% propaganda to push territorial claims later. For the Tsams, I think that even if there were ever any, they were sent back to Albania, and even if there may be (which I doubt) 100 or a little more Muslim Tsams who speak Albanian, they should not be considered a minority. If there are other Tsams (non-Muslim, not Albanian speakers), then they are 100% assimilated and also are not a minority. Well, most sources claim that there are lots of Tsams in Epirus that deny that they are Tsams or speak Albanian and self-identify as Greeks. We should respect their self-identification and not state that they form part of a minority (we anyway don't know if they do). Well, about FYROM Slavs, they're not even a nation. I think that there could be some Slavic villages from this side of the border but I think that they should have been assimilated by now. And, most of all, I trust the government's official position.--Michael X the White (talk) 14:55, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You know I am Albanian, but I may agree wtih you about the Cham Albanians, IF they really do not feel like Albanians, and self-identify as Greeks. I was in June in Igoumenitsa and I met with orthodox Greek citiziens, who spoke Albanian and said that we are Albanians in ethnicity but Greek nationals. So, I still am not sure how many Albanians ethnics, Greek nationals, live in Epirus. But, I am sure that there is a turkish minority in Greece, In Komotini, Ksanthi and Evros. They speak turkish, they say that are turks, and the only one who says that they are greeks is the Greek government. As about the slavo-macedonians, if you respect the motion of self-identification, you should respect that they are a nation. We all know that they are bulgars, but as long as they wish to be different nation, they may be, as per self-identification.balkanian (talk) 15:06, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, I do not trust any government.balkanian (talk) 15:13, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(I like the phrase "we all know they are bulgars!!) hehe:P.That's a very special case and not that simple.) I can't really tell you about Igoumenitsa, I don't really like the place and don't go often. (In general, when I'm in Epirus I try to stay in the borders of Ioannina Prefecture as much as possible). I respect yoour view about Turkey and maintain mine, probably because of the general distrust of any turkish action. Now, the people you met could either be those that I mention as 100% assimilated without saying that they are Greeks or immigrants (1990+). A lot of immigrants get baptised and change their names to find work more easily and become more easily accepted by the local society. Also, there is another matter. You are an Albanian, and if you approach one in Greece, they may admit to you that they are. I am Greek and if I do the same, they will mostly state that they are Greeks from N.Epirus. So we can't have an accurate view anyway. Also, many Albanian, baptised immigrants take citizenship after a period of time (I think about 6000 were given citizenship last year). But they are not part of a minority.--Michael X the White (talk) 15:28, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, no. I do not speak about Albanians that came in Greece after 1990. I speak about Greek citiziens, that have been born in Greece, long ago. One of these cases, was an Greek national, about 60, that was born in Igoumenitsa, not an immigrant, but a Greek national. I am sure that he, is considered an ethnic Greek by everyone, but he said to me that ethnically he is Albanian.balkanian (talk) 16:11, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't doubt you checked. Would his family, however, also admit they're Albanian?--Michael X the White (talk) 17:14, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I do not know about that, but my point is that exactly becouse "I do not know about that" there should be an "?" in Greece. While, in Albania there are statistical data of these individuals who self-identify as Greeks, in Greece there is no data of these individuals that self-identify as Albanians.balkanian (talk) 18:34, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Would they however, self-identify as Albanians versus the state?? And still the Albanian data is not reliable.--Michael X the White (talk) 12:26, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar!

The Barnstar of Racial Purity
For your tireless efforts in defending Greece against the lies of the Fyromians and other enemies, I award you the Barnstar of Racial Purity. In your short time here you've done some amazing work. 24.91.106.232 (talk) 20:31, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Thank you!--Michael X the White (talk) 21:13, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can you have a second look at the barnstar please? Someone played a joke on you (unless of course you do indeed agree with it, in which case don't expect any collaboration from me)--   Avg    21:36, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I know! I just leave it here for the record (like FP threats, Emperordarius's nonsense,etc.)--Michael X the White (talk) 12:21, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately open hate and propaganda directed at Greeks is becoming all too common these days. I wonder who it could be? --Crossthets (talk) 01:56, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It just makes no sense anymore. But somehow I feel nice they're offended by the truths we say.--Michael X the White (talk) 16:26, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Bad news

Thanks for telling me Michael. Hopefully Yannis will return and we can continue the drive. Kyriakos (talk) 12:03, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ευχαριστώ

Thanks, for your comments! Kapnisma ? 11:38, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

Ευχαριστώ για τα βραβεία, Michael:). It's been a long time since I last got one. --Hectorian (talk) 11:48, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Corroborated news

Hey Mike. I trust Greek news far far more to report accurately than FYROM news sources (whose excessive use of anti-Greek hyperbole essentially makes them hate outlets IMO). However, I don't recommend bringing up only one news source before discussing inclusion in an article (or heresy/rumours related to that one news source). Some times errors do happen. Corroborated reports are essential to accurate reporting. If it can't be confirmed from other sources (most importantly third parties) even honest mistakes will only end up making Greek attitudes take on an appearance of the current FYROM government. --Crossthets (talk) 17:05, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see.You mean the scandal about the US Embassy in the macedonia dispute talk? I share your concerns and if you find something, just show it there, it's the best thing to do. Personally, I posted this on Saturday, and it was an article in the Sunday press, so I'll wait one or two days more to find more sources and full answers from all sides (that's why I state "coming up"). But you can always do a little search of your own, too, if you think it's necessary ;). --Michael X the White (talk) 18:34, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'll keep my eyes open. Alas unlike some of the Greek-haters, I don't have time to dedicate too much time on my Wikipedia contributions. Sometimes I wonder if certain Wikipedia contributers (whose edits seem to consistently focus on some variation of "Greeks aren't Greek" or "Macedonians aren't/weren't Greeks").... are being paid full time to do so. Seriously, look at the diff times of certain contributers and you can see some of them literally work days on end on this. No jobs? Obsessed bigots? Paid ringers? --Crossthets (talk) 22:08, 20 October 2008

(UTC)

I've been thinking about the leaks...but a little on my views first to explain how I arrived to my conclusions as to what should be done about them on Wikipedia (and in general).
Bush obviously doesn't support Greeks. Nobody in political power is possibly so dumb as to be completely oblivious to so many signs of irredentism. Highly classified leaks don't always just accidentally happen... especially with such sensitive timing. Often they are intentional and their purpose is to stir up problems. The leak could just as well be a plant from the Bush administration on its way out. He can't come right out and say he's dissing a Nato ally (would make every other Nato ally question the use of it) so instead perhaps he's trying to create a situation where Greeks become hostile to the US just prior to Obama getting into power. A few Greek anti-American demonstrations/incidents in the news... maybe Greece-friendly Obama can be convinced to change his mind?
So getting back to the leaks. Regardless who is responsible... I am of the firm belief that no major policy decisions for/against American intervention should be made on the issue until Obama is in power and given a chance to reach a compromise. I refuse to jump on some fashionable American bashing bandwagon because of a few dirty politicians. Congress and the EU have been relatively supportive up to now (despite bumbling Bush and Blair) but if the inbound America executive doesn't quickly come on board next election... then I would reluctantly support Greece exiting NATO and realigning itself with Russia. Americans are great people but on a national level (and judging by the non-stop stream of open hate being directed at Greeks these days)...Greeks can no longer afford political relationships that might result in their ethnic group being wiped out of existence. Russians are desperately looking for some new friends these days and I believe they would enthusiastically welcome prime Aegean real estate for their nuclear subs at the expense of American ones.
Anyhow... the option is there...but I think patience is necessary to give Obama a chance first. (Not to mention I genuinely like the guy). So my personal recommendation is go easy with the leak issue. --Crossthets (talk) 05:05, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alright!So, briefly (!), you think that we should not include the scandal of US government' secret talks with Skopje, because you think that the leak might not be accidental, and we should not aid Bush damaging Gr-US relations via WP? So, if we include it we do Bush's favor in damaging GR-US relations? ( Please correct me if I am mistaken!!)

Well, the fact is there anyway, isn't it? There was a secret discussion and we can't change it. And as long as the US does not deny it, we have nothing to doubt it. I think we should be neutral anbd just state the fact of the document, whether it is accidental or not. We will anyway not influence the effects this leak has or Obama's decision. I say we include it stating that it was the Bush government that is responsible for it, and, if you find any good sources to back up your arguments, we could include them in the article, too. (You see, I don't disagree, but we need sources. ;) )

Just per talk, I think that Europe's way out of a lot of crises is now East, North-East. And that is because the American political and social system has become (especially the last 20 years) rotten from inside, because the balance was lost. I am certainly not a supporter of the USSR, but I think that the balance of the Cold War was a good think for the Earth. The last chance America has is now Obama. If he fails, or if they fail to elect him (they are totally capable of), then I don't see much future in the US as we once knew it. The way down will be even swifter. And I don't see any practical use of NATO any more. It's just there. Of course, I don't think GR should exit NATO, but, in the meantime, I highly support military treaties and alliance with Russia. And I think Russia is the natural ally of Greece and the two countries have a lot in common, historically and culturally. It seems a bit akward, but I think it's still Byzantine Politics. The E.Romans (/Byzantines/Greeks) converted the Slavs (the Rus included) to Christianity and and this has crafted an excellent friendship throughout the centuries. And Russia has never turned its back to Greece, but has always tried to help (with logical exception of the communist regime, that was not part of traditional Russia). To conclude, I think that Russia is also a much more trustworthy ally than the US could ever possibly be or become.--Michael X the White (talk) 18:34, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To hopefully clarify my position to your question...

you think that we should not include the scandal of US government' secret talks with Skopje, because you think that the leak might not be accidental, and we should not aid Bush damaging Gr-US relations via WP? So, if we include it we do Bush's favor in damaging GR-US relations? (Please correct me if I am mistaken!!)

The story should be mentioned on WP (its relevant news after all). However, at the moment all we really know is that some newspaper somewhere claims they have US classified documents. Legitimate questions are still unanswered.

  • Are they real?
  • If so how did classified US documents get into their hands?
  • And what of the motives behind those that gave fake or real documents to a newspaper of all places? (instead of the Greek government)

My point is Greeks should be careful not to become morality outraged at all Americans because their current President is a twit. I too feel betrayed by Bush but Congress has shown significant effort on the issue. In fact they went 180 degrees against Bush who recognized RoM (a point that needs to be added back in to the naming dispute article btw)

The world generally follows the US lead on most issues. When Obama wins they'll be no further reasonable justifications for delay. (I think we agree right?) --Crossthets (talk) 05:05, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I see your point! Yes, of course we agree! Obama has stated that he shares Greek positions so I think things will change (as he says!)!--Michael X the White (talk) 12:18, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Persecuted Communists

Speaking of communists, .an interesting article has arisen called Exodus of Ethnic Macedonians from Greece. From my standpoint the article appears to portray communists that tried to take over Greece (in particular the Slavic ones) as "persecuted" and non-communist Greeks as their "persecutors". I tried to remove the offensive comments but of course PMK1 kept reverting. I then discussed with an admin. Todd warned him about his reverts but he doesn't appear interesting in involving himself further on the issue.

Its been more than 24 hours so I could do another revert I suppose but I think a talk page discussion would be better suited for this purpose (as it will make what PMK is trying to do more evident) Based on our previous discussion I think we see eye-to-eye on the issue of communists so I was wondering if you could provide some input on the issue on the talk page? --Crossthets (talk) 04:12, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

...It's the old story again! Rather the wo of them! "Evil right-flank persecuting innocent left-flank" combined with "Evil Greeks persecuting minorities"! I'll see what I can do... But from a first sight I think half sources can be someway challenged.--Michael X the White (talk) 14:21, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think this should be nominated for deletion as soon as possible, and "Aegean Macedonia","Aegean Macedonians" should go for deletion review. --Michael X the White (talk) 21:27, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cham Albanians

Even if Helsinki is not RS, there is Vickers, a RS. Arvanites of Epirus are part of modern albanian nation, and for that there are a lot of sources.Balkanian`s word (talk) 20:33, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Technically, Arvanites only come from territories that today constitute the modern Albanian nation-state. They never declared themselves as ethnic Albanians regardless if they were able to communicate with Albanians utilizing their Arvanitika. It is more likely that they constitute a population of Albanianized Greeks given the fact that the Greek element in Epirus was quite pervasive since classical antiquity (despite the plagues, wars, and natural disasters that occurred there). If Greeks during the Ottoman period were able to adopt foreign linguistic and cultural norms for survivalistic purposes, then I wouldn't be surprised if ethnic Greeks in Epirus became Albanians in order to adapt to the changes "Illyricum" was facing. The changes I am referring to, of course, entail waning Byzantine influence and Albanian expansionism during the 14th and 15th centuries. Yet, even the so-called "Albanian migrations" into Greece consisted mainly of Arvanites given the fact that most migrants came from southern Albania, which has historically been populated and influenced by Greeks since classical antiquity. Of course, plenty of Albanian nobles settled in areas of Epirus. However, I wouldn't be surprised if documentary evidence attesting to these migrations contain exaggerations. Deucalionite (talk) 16:45, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

certain contributers claim that lack of Ottoman census data isn't part of Greek position

I tried to add the point that there is no official Ottoman census data that shows "Macedonians" to the dispute page. What appears to be a FYRoM national did a revert. Another Greek contributer added it back in (one I did not discuss the issue with).. and FP reverted again claiming "it is not part of the Greek position" I thought you might be interested in adding some input to this. --Crossthets (talk) 03:57, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Exodus of Ethnic Macedonians from Greece

An article that you have been involved in editing, Exodus of Ethnic Macedonians from Greece, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Exodus of Ethnic Macedonians from Greece. Thank you. Avg (talk) 20:55, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

download portable firefox

Hey Mike I noticed you were having problems with IE. I recommend downloading a copy of portable firefox which can be found here. Also make sure to add some popular extensions at Mozilla. A few of the more handy ones are cs-lite, no-script, foxmarks, ietab. If you need any help with it feel free to contact me on my talkpage. --Crossthets (talk) 02:23, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lempessis

Are you familiar with him? One of the most important, yet forgotten minds of right wing thinkers of modern era. You must definately read that essay of him. Kάπνισμα 19:10, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

mmm No, I haven't heard of him, but I'm looking forward to reading an essay written by him... Thank you anyway for mentioning him to me! Well... more or less all right wing thinkers were forced to be forgotten in Greece. You see, leftists were made heroes sooo much that the media, arts, literature and thinking (and more) has become their monopoly in the country. As often I say, that is one of the few bad remnants of the junta.--Michael X the White (talk) 20:28, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

News

Ρίξε μια ματιά στο Neophytos Doukas που έφτιαξα, σιγά σιγά να βάζουμε τους Ηπειρώτες στο παχνίδι. Αύριο θα βάλω το άρθρο για το χωριο 'Κήποι'

Ωραίως. Ετοιμάζω νέο teplate για τα χωριά. Λες να τα χωρίσουμε σε δυτικό, ανατολικό, κεντρικό; Ή ανάλογα τον δήμο:

Καλύτερα άναλογα τον δήμο (και τις κοινότητες) γιατί δεν υπάρχουν αρκετά στοιχεία για να βασίσουμε την διαίρεση γεωγραφικά. Μάλιστα, έχουμε δικαιολογία να ενώσουμε τα templates των δήμων και των κοινοτήτων, εφ'όσον υπάρχει η κοινή ιστορία και η συζήτηση της ένωσης των δήμων (Καποδίστριας 2).--Michael X the White (talk) 21:17, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Ετοιμάζω Τσεπέλοβο. Κάνε copy paste από την σελίδα μου την contacting me παράγραφο, να σου στέλνω απευθείας στο μαϊλ. Μεταφράζω και από την ελληνική βικι την μάχη του Μπιζανίου.Καλό σαββατοκύριακοAlexikoua (talk) 20:05, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

E να στείλε μου από δω κατ' ευθείαν: Special:Emailuser/Michael IX the White.--Michael X the White (talk) 09:41, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]


political refuges of Greece

Since you contributed to the article about “political refuges of Greece” have a look at the talk page! I also re-written the opening paragraph and I have serious concerns about the sources that were used! Have a look! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Political_refugees_of_the_Greek_Civil_War http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_refugees_of_the_Greek_Civil_War Seleukosa (talk) 21:33, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Έχεις απόλυτο δίκιο για της πηγές. Όσο και άν ζητάω είναι αδύνατον να εμφανιστούν τα αποσπάσματα που να επιβεβαιώνουν τα γραφόμενα. Ειδικά στις Ελληνικές πηγές! Για να δούμε εάν εμφανιστούν ποτέ! Seleukosa (talk) 16:33, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Babiniotis

Hi, how are you? I think that you have Babiniotis dictionary. Can you find me the etymology of Ioannina, please? Have a nice dayBalkanian`s word (talk) 11:58, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Sorry for the delay, but I just checked the etymology and it is a bit too long. I don't really have time to properly translate it at the moment, but I'll probably have done so the following days.--Michael X the White (talk) 16:27, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok thanksBalkanian`s word (talk) 16:32, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ETYM.μεσν.αβεβ. ετύμου. Τόσο η ετυμολογική προέλευση όσο και η εποχή ιδρύσεως της πόλης παραμένου ανεξακρίβωτες. Κατα μία άποψη, η μονή του Ιωάννου του Προδρόμου αποτέλεσε τον πυρήνα του συνοικισμού της πόλεως, ενώ άλλοι ανάγουν την ονομασία σε ομώνυμο Βυζαντινό αυτοκράτορα. Έχει υποστηριχθεί επίσης η άποψη (Μ.Φιλήντας, Δ.Καμπούρογλου) ότι το τοπωνύμιο ανάγεται στην τουρκ. λέξη ayan "άρχοντες", που "εξελληνίστηκε" και παρετυμολογήθηκε προς το κυρ.όν. Ιωάννης (ας σημειωθεί ότι επί Τουρκοκρατίας, οι άρχοντες της περιοχής αποκαλούνταν συχνά Αγιάνηδες < ayan).

ETYM. medieval, uncertain etymology. Both the etymologic background and the foundation date of the city remain uncertified. According to one view, the monastery of St.John consisted the main centre of the city's conurbation, when others relate the name to a Byzantine emperor. It has also been said (M.Philentas, D.Kambouroglou) that the name comes from the turkish word ayan "lord", that was hellenised and misrelated to the given name "Ioannes" (note that, during the Turkish occupation, the lords of an area where usually called "Αγιάνηδες"<ayan).

I know I can do better than that in translation (:p) but at least that's the essence!!Haha --Michael X the White (talk) 19:07, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Haha, no thats great. I`m going to use it on Ioanninas page.Tanks.Balkanian`s word (talk) 11:45, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Michael for copying this out, this is what I had also found. Trouble is, the ayan etymology is so obviously a-historical that it's almost impossible to take seriously, since the name Ioannina is attested long before the Turkish period. The two authors cited (Philindas and Kambouroglou) seem to be not particularly reliable sources. I've seen both mentioned elsewhere with other rather weird and naive etymological claims. Babiniotis does not bother to give a proper bibliographical source for them, and I haven't been able to identify one either; Babiniotis rather neutrally describes the hypothesis as "it has also been claimed ...", which may well be compatible with "... but that's pure nonsense", although - untypical for him - he doesn't bother to actually spell out his own judgment on it. It's rather puzzling in my view. But given that Babiniotis is at least not overtly endorsing that hypothesis, and we haven't pinned down a reliable source that actually does, I'd actually suggest we use our common sense and ignore it. It's just too obviously wrong. What Babiniotis seems to be actually endorsing is that the connection to the proper name Ioannes is not seriously in doubt, and that the only open issue is which Ioannes was originally meant. Fut.Perf. ☼ 17:39, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's right, I agree with you. Even mentioning them means that he does not endorse their opinion but rather just refers to it so that he is covering everything. He certainly gives more wight in the etymological connection with Ioannes, whether that is via the monastery of St.John or an Emperor. --Michael X the White (talk) 18:06, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vikos

Look at this [[2]]. I will try to make an translation, nice places... right?--Alexikoua (talk) 23:08, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly!...--Michael X the White (talk) 16:10, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's finally on DYK.Alexikoua (talk) 12:10, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I noticed! Good job that one!!--Michael X the White (talk) 17:43, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Protections applied

Thanks for the note, NawlinWiki (talk) 19:34, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Matter of style

Just saw you do this [3], right after I had gone through the article and removed over-linking. Can you please keep in mind, as per WP:MOS, we should avoid redundant links. Each target article ought to be linked to ideally only once from the same article. Here, you have Karatzaferis mentioned twice within the same section. Only the first time should be linked. (I'd remove it myself, but I guess I'd probably be violating 3RR :-) Thanks -- Fut.Perf. ☼ 22:47, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh,sorry I didn't note that actually. I just put the link without thinking.--Michael X the White (talk) 23:10, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Greek police

Criticism of the police

Greek police have been for long discribe as brutal. Greek TV have disclose a case where greek polices with rioters' clothes are destroying store in order cut the social support for younth.[1]

The youtube video is important, since it's a direct evidence of Police implication in shops' destructions, accordingly, it should be hadd to the article.

After... if we consider that 'Critics on police' is, de facto, all along the article => then you were right by reverting me ;)

Regards Yug (talk) 21:43, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I also encourage you to read the article Tang Taizong, to get one more name into your user page's list... Yug (talk) 21:48, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the article reference!! I basically reverted because the "2008 Greek riots" were characterised as anti-police, and because criticism on the police can be covered in criticism on the government. Anyway, the problem with Youtube is that we cannot use it here because of licencescand RS.--Michael X the White (talk) 22:22, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rename riots into unrest ?

Hello, your opinion is requested : Talk:2008_Greek_riots#RENAME_NEED:_Riots_vs._Civil_Unrest.3F Yug (talk) 09:13, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey

Hi Mike check this out http://www.in.gr/news/article.asp?lngEntityID=972263 --Der Blaue Reiter (talk) 16:06, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's the way! A huh a huh I like it! ! !--Michael X the White (talk) 19:36, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
yes i'd like to see the T. Air Force try to disrupt those exercises--Der Blaue Reiter (talk) 13:50, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think that the exercises actually are talking place in the areas they dispute! But they've already gone mad the last few days! I'm curious to see what's next. Do not forget one of the Russian ships is an aircraft carrier... Thy could take part in our exercises too!--Michael X the White (talk) 16:18, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
do you think they'll escallate this http://www.ekathimerini.gr/4dcgi/_w_articles_politics_100010_08/01/2009_298454 further?--Der Blaue Reiter (talk) 15:40, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well... I do not know if they are stupid enough to do so...--Michael X the White (talk) 18:57, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

well i don't think they're stupid either ,but i still think they could escallate (http://www.ethnos.gr/article.asp?catid=11378&subid=2&tag=8777&pubid=2170761) if you think about it the timing is perfect. plus this is not good news --> http://www.in.gr/news/article.asp?lngEntityID=973865&lngDtrID=244 .--Der Blaue Reiter (talk) 17:37, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Of course it is good news!! It is obvious that this was the Greco-Russian move to calm them and give and end to this! --Michael X the White (talk) 19:13, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

i have to say that i didn't think of that possibility. my thoughts were something along the lines of they tried to keep a policy of equal distances among us and them and maybe even an effort to gain another client for Russian military systems.--Der Blaue Reiter (talk) 14:27, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Irrelevant information

how is the incidents you removed from the 2008 civil unrest article irrelevant? because at least according to the sources they are relevant to the whole situationSadbuttrue92 (talk) 12:55, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I did not remove any incidents, with one exception (attack on Kaloyannis) that is not directly connected to any protests/riots/demostrations or whatever, and the source did not support connection. I'm going to do more "cutting", because the article is so long that it will not interest the reader.--Michael X the White (talk) 16:48, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

you also removed the shooting of the second teen and the attack against kaloyannis was part of the rioting according to greek media. if you're doing any cutting you shouldn't do it on provenfacts but on the parts that are redundant. How would you like it if I helped you with the "cutting" of not very interesting information?--Sadbuttrue92 (talk) 16:54, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Check again, the second shooting was not removed. Useless information, on the other hand, was removed (gun type etc.). We do not have space enough for details.--Michael X the White (talk) 16:55, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I could use some help! --Michael X the White (talk) 16:56, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, please check the talk page before reverting.--Michael X the White (talk) 17:16, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

so now that i read the talk page can i revert your edits and return the article to it's previous - better stage?--Sadbuttrue92 (talk) 17:59, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
i'm going to wait since it's been 1 hour after my previous post. Then i'm reverting. If you wish to "cut" things from the article please open a related section on the article's talk page where we can discuss the changes and agree on what should or shoudn't be removed.--Sadbuttrue92 (talk) 18:37, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Check closer. On top of the article there are two banners. Have a look at them. Check the archive,too. Also, if you disagree with the changes, you could open a section in the talk page. There is no need to open a section in the talk page every time we edit. (Especially on justified matters that have also been discussed before)--Michael X the White (talk) 19:33, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

Hi, Mike it's been a while. hehe! i'm not returning completely to Wikipedia however i'm planning to make another update to the 2008 Civil unrest in Greece article, in about a week or so. If you'd like some help with any other article or issue, feel free to ask me. Der Blaue Reiter (talk) 00:14, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

BTW have you seen this [4] [5] [6] [7] Der Blaue Reiter (talk) 14:00, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Heeeey!! I think this actually deserves an article and more than that, it desreves ITN before it is too late, don't you think?--Michael X the White (talk) 16:05, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here are the sources about Kalloyannis

[8] [9] [10] [11] as you can see they include the burning of the car with the vandalism and riots of the 2008 Civil unrest in Greece--Sadbuttrue92 (talk) 15:52, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm back from Super Bowl weekend! Sorry, was out of the house mostly. I take the above sources to mean that you guys are getting along better now? Or is there still something you'd like me to look into? Master of Puppets Call me MoP! :D 04:28, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Υes, it's ok...now...Thank you anyway,Michael X the White (talk) 16:16, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Τι Έγινε;

Mike τι κάνεις; υπάρχει κάποιο πρόβλημα; χρειάζεσαι βοήθεια σε κάποιο άρθρο; Η ενημέρωση του άρθρου που ανέφερα πιο πάνω αναβάλλεται λόγω φόρτου εργασίας. Der Blaue Reiter (talk) 15:57, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Take a look at the Cham Albanians, you can be a Cham! (noone knows)Alexikoua (talk) 00:04, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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I have asked a peer review about Cham Albanians. Please join.Balkanian`s word (talk) 16:23, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A proposal

Please can you see the proposal I have made in Talk:Chameria page.Balkanian`s word (talk) 15:52, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, I've nominated Autonomous Republic of Northern Epirus for 'GA' status, feel free to take a look and make comments for possible improvements. Thank youAlexikoua.Alexikoua (talk) 09:11, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi there,

Seeing that you have participated in the name debate over this city in the past, I was wondering if you would be interested in doing so again, in light of the fact that new evidence has been brought forward at Talk:Vlorë#Name consensus. --Athenean (talk) 17:43, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mention of "Romania" in the Eastern Roman Empire article

Thank you very much for your support in that debate. Cody7777777 (talk) 23:05, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

) Cheers!--Michael X the White (talk) 19
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These ain't a consensus about your change!! So please revert it.--Kreshnik25 (talk) 19:00, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That version was well-sourced. There needs to be a sufficient discussion in order to be clear to change it.--Michael X the White (talk) 19:37, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 greek sources, and another copying them is not "reliable". But it's pointless to discuss it, because you' re more. And that's the truth, ruth. --Kreshnik25 (talk) 07:30, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You're more? Huh?--Michael X the White (talk) 09:57, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was working on this wp:ani case from yeasterday, already told that on User_talk:EdJohnston#Souliotes, but it's ok, I added some comment.Alexikoua (talk) 21:14, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Selloi are ancestor of arvanit/albanian Souliti

So were all Epirotet now Greek speaking like you , so are the figures that you admire the most Albanian..If you are think belong to the group so called Romei you must never ignore the role of native people of Greece and Albania,even the culture that they were able and capable to produce always ...


Selloi from where the hellens took their name are nothing else but ancestor of original Albanian Christians of Souli, i think this explain all the picture ...

The (Souliotes), also known as Souliots/Suliots and anciently as ί (Selloi), are the inhabitants of (Souli) in the mountains of Mourgas in Epirus in northwestern Greece. They are the villagers of the (Τetrahori -- four villages) who made themselves famous in the 19th century by their resistance to the Ottoman Empire.

Ptolemy (Geographica, 3, 15) calls Epirus "primordial Hellas" and Aristotle (Meteorologica, I.352a) reports that an ancient cataclysm was most severe "in ancient Hellas, in between Dodona and the Achelous river [...], the land occupied by Selloi (or Helloi) and Graeci who later came to be known as Hellenes." The Souli were addressed by the Greek poet Andreas Kalvos (1792 – 1869) as the modern descendants of the Selloi, in his ode "Eis Souli" or "To the Souli". In support of the poet's belief, a Greek historian, Constantine Pantazi proved that the area that is currently Epirus in northwestern Greece was populated by one of the first ancient Hellenic tribes, the Selloi since 800 BC. The area was called Thesprotia by the Selloi. About 1600 AD, the Souliotes migrated from the plains of Thesprotia up into the mountains of Mourgas, where a confederacy of clans presented a united front to the Ottomans —Preceding unsigned comment added by Artemisa ne adenice (talk • contribs) 16:57, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry pal, you just mix things a lot.--Michael X the White (talk) 20:09, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

no i am just trying to figure out what you have mixed and transformed even here in wiki...greek albanians like you !!

Mediation of Byzantine Empire

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See here.--Anothroskon (talk) 17:00, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Oh you.

So you support the independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia but oppose that of Kosovo, recognized by 98 UN countries already and growing? You "greeks" really funny, just like when you claim to be descendants of Ancient Greeks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.78.68.140 (talk) 14:47, 14 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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ArbCom elections are now open!

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Ἡ Βικιπαιδεία ἑλληνιστί

Hi there, I am contacting you here as this seems to be the wiki you are most active in. There is currently an ongoing proposal with regards to having an ancient Greek Wikipedia, accompanied by an active incubator wiki that has plenty of articles already. I thought I would let you know as you have an interest and knowledge of ancient Greek, so you're more than welcome to participate if you find it worthwhile. Gts-tg (talk) 10:20, 16 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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1453 was an inside job

Long live Byzantium. Ottoman cannons don't breach Byzantine walls.

Will2022 (talk 12:34, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ See Cops are breaking shops in greek riots 2008. note: if you know the TV who broascasted this, thanks to notice it in the article itself.
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