Talk:Hillary Clinton

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Inaccurate statement in edit history

In the edit history, I made an incorrect assertion about another's edits. I claimed that an editor removed material and references (see this diff - [1]). This is incorrect. The editor only removed a small of amount of text and did not remove any references. I was confused by three edits in a row, where it appeared to me that text and references had been removed. I apologize for saying references were removed. At the same time, I think it was appropriate to restore the removed text because no rationale was given for its removal. Thanks. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 07:25, 15 December 2016‎

Semi-protected edit request on 27 April 2017

I need to edit some things about her email Nazipageprotecter (talk) 14:03, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. EvergreenFir (talk) 14:05, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 May 2017

2601:19C:4502:9BFB:C0B:3450:AEBB:11EE (talk) 16:09, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format.Crboyer (talk) 16:15, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

The Subsequent activities section should be minimal

I took the liberty of snipping Clinton's comments on several Trump antics/actions. I heartily voted for Mrs. Clinton last fall, but she is not a currently-serving Democrat and being an ex-presidential candidate with no intentions of running again is really not a leading party position. She is not the voice of the Democratic opposition to Trump and her opinions on current political affairs are that of a private citizen, albeit an incredibly famous and still-popular one. ValarianB (talk) 19:35, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Her "subsequent activities" should be weighted appropriately based on their significance in press coverage. Your opinions of her aren't relevant, and the media coverage of her suggests that her opinions still matter. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:56, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

I agree with Muboshgu. Tvoz/talk 06:08, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Further, @ValarianB:, it seems she's not done with politics. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:58, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Legitimacy of presidency

There is a wide perception, especially here in Europe, but probably also in other parts of the world, that Hillary Clinton won the election. In Europe Clinton is more or less universally considered to have legitimately won the election, both because she actually won the largest number of votes (which in most parts of the world translates to: won the election) and because of the documented Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections. The lead should take this into account to a greater degree, because this is not USpedia, but a global encyclopedia, and the article needs to reflect a global point of view, not just a US point of view. Even if a particular person is declared as the "winner" of an election within his own country, the world might not always agree and consider the election to be fair or legitimate if there are genuine concerns, typically such as another candidate having actually received the largest number of votes, but also if there have been such things as Russian interference in the election. We have seen this countless times when the election or appointment in question took place in Africa, South America, Asia and other countries Putin likes to mess with – in fact the Unites States has voiced such views with regard to other countries' presidential elections or appointments many times. Political scientists and international observers agree that the US electoral system is rather deficient compared to those of advanced democracies e.g. in Europe.[2][3] In 2016 and 2017 the world does not seem to agree that Donald Trump won the election in his country in a legitimate or fair way. There are a lot of reliable sources to be found which discuss whether Trump was legitimately elected and whether Clinton won the election. Even within the US, even within its parliament, many commentators and sources hold this opinion[4] --Tataral (talk) 17:58, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

The perceived "deficiency" in the Electoral College does not delegitimize Donald Trump's victory in the election, and I have personally seen no major rejections of the legitimacy of Trump's presidency from, as you put it, "the world". Notwithstanding that, I don't see how the legitimacy (or lack thereof) of his presidency is directly relevant to Hillary Clinton herself or the article bearing her name. I would suggest, however, that you raise this topic in the talk pages of either the actual election article or in its sister page describing international reactions to the election. Frevangelion (talk) 00:35, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

You would need not just examples of people saying that but a secondary source that explains how typical that view is. Bear in mind too that outside the U.S., the Democratic candidate has been favored 4 to 1 for decades at least. TFD (talk) 04:43, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Americans have been Constitutionally electing presidents under the Electoral College system for over 200 years, longer than many European nations have been electing their heads of state (some still don't). What you're saying is like me saying that the Queen of England or the King of Belgium aren't legitimate heads of state because they aren't popularly elected, or that the various prime ministers elected by parliaments rather than by popular vote aren't legitimate heads of government, or that the European Commission isn't a legitimate legislative body because it isn't democratically elected by the people of Europe. In other words, it is nothing more than an editorialized personal opinion and does not belong in an encyclopedia article. Trump won, Hillary lost, get over it already. Rreagan007 (talk) 06:49, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Please close this topic. There is no such "wide perception," only a mild delusion among some liberals. Trump won; he is the President; HRC lost; please get over it and move on.Zigzig20s (talk) 09:28, 2 June 2017 (UTC)