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United territorial communities

Oh, Aleksandr! It seems there with the recent addition of the "united territorial communities" (OTT) to the Administrative divisions of Ukraine by Yulia Romero, it throws the page back into chaos. I was discussing with her about this new form of government, and she linked me to an article (https://www.radiosvoboda.org/a/28757609.html), and the article - if my translation was correct - seems to imply that these are in fact not voluntary. It also appears the new law creating them totally redid the administrative divisions of the country. It says the law splits the country into only three divisions, now: Regions, Counties (though, maybe this is still Raion?), and the "Communities." At the same time, it seems that a district would have to meet a certian population threshold to become a "united territorial community". So, in districts that didn't meet the requirement, they'd still be divided into the existing counciles (i.e. cities of district significant, settlement councils, and rural councils). It's also not entirely clear even in those districts that meet the threshold if EVERY community merges into one another, or if each community has a choice to join the OTT. And in that case, what would be the "county" level which oversees the cities left out of the OTT?

I'm probably reading this wrong. If you could read this and let me know what the new law did and didn't do, that would be great. In fact, it'd be nice to see a copy of the law, itself, as that would answer all of these questions. --Criticalthinker (talk) 00:53, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yea, it has been ongoing since 2015 as part of the administrative-territorial reform. It is pretty confusing. But it is not just about the numbers. There is a process that take place behind a scene. One has to follow closely on updates for that certain community that goes through the administrative-territorial reform. I do not really follow on that subject. I might be too sceptical, but it looks to me like as the process with the police reform that was supposed to make impact, but instead turn out to be a change of label and more funds deficiency out of the state budget. About those communities, Ukrainian Wikipedia has pretty good articles with tables and stuff. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 02:55, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Criticalthinker, that is a great article. It is written by former parliamentary and deputy minister Doctor Technical Sciences Mykhailo Pozhyvanov. He points out to the fact that the law goes against to what it is stated in the Constitution of Ukraine. It is pretty clearly proscribed. He also points to what I find awkward that those communities are being created within a district (raion) with the old system of administration. Also those districts could have both and those communities as well as the old councils. According to Dr. Pozhyvanov those new communities are not like community organizations, but rather as organized crime groups that are being united under a bigger landowner who is in the parliament. It sounds simply like a political speculation of someone who is bitter about a loss of something, but there could be some grain of truth. (here is a wikilink to the Ukrainian Wikipedia article about the new and greatest united communities uk:Список об'єднаних територіальних громад України). Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 03:20, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Criticalthinker, the whole administrative territorial reform was supposed to take place with the adaptation of the Constitution of Ukraine back in 1996, but was constantly postponed (just like the Ukrainian census that was taken only once in 2001). Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 03:25, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Criticalthinker, here is the copy of the law. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 04:46, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Honestly, what I'm interested in is whether the administrative subdivisions page (in English) needs to be updated further to reflect any changes to the existing units at this level (i.e. cities of district significance, settlement councils, and rural councils). What I'm still unsure of is kind of what I talked about above including:
1. Does this level of government merge the existing lower-level councils in the districts that become OTTs, or do they retain their local governance?
2. How exactly is it decided (at which level) which districts become OTTs? Must each constituent council vote affirmatively, or is it decided by a vote of the entire population of the district in a majority vote?
According to Yulia's update of the page, 252 districts have already chosen to become OTTs and have thus already voted in a new council. Elections for another 226 are coming this year and next year. What I'm concerned about is whether the cities, settlements and rural councils in these OTTs cease to exist or not, because they would require a lot of work in updating numbers and such. I want to ask DDima about this, but he doesn't appear to be active at the moment from what I can gather. --Criticalthinker (talk) 05:55, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
So, I have translated down to Article 8 of the law you linked me to. Unfortunately, online translators really stink at English to Ukrainian translations. But what I got is that initially while the existing councils within a district continue to exist, that after a certain amount of time, the OTT can begin to abolish the city, settlement and rural councils within the new territory. As to the question about who and at which level it is decided for a district to become an OTT, this is something less clear to me as the translation is power. It both sounds like that an OTT doesn't have to include every local council in an existing district, and that it can actually include local councils in adjacent districts. So it sounds like the districts aren't necessarily the building buildings of an OTT, rather the local councils themselves. What confuses me is that say every local council but a single on in a district decides to be an OTT; what happens to the district goverment after the other communities become an OTT if there is only one local council left in that former district? Are there any cases of all of the councils of a district wanting to be excluded from an OTT, who becomes the district council over them? Yes, I guess what would be easiest to pick a particular example of an OTT, and see how it was formed and from which local councils it was formed. This would explain a lot. --Criticalthinker (talk) 06:25, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Criticalthinker, you are correct. It is not fully and explicitly proscribed. At this time it is decided to allow local councils to reform into those united communities, and after that we will think about. The main point is that either local councils nor united communities are proscribed in the Constitution of Ukraine, therefore there is no conflict. Supposedly the next step is that those communities will be organized into counties (povits) to replace districts (raions). However, those districts are mentioned in the Constitution as part of the administrative-territorial system in the country. So, in order to start to form those counties, a constitutional reform should take place. Waging a semi-concealed armed conflict with Russia that invaded territories of eastern and south Ukraine, the government of Ukraine avoids to start the constitutional reform. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 15:28, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Criticalthinker, it is not districts that are being reformed into united communities, but rather local councils that are part of districts. The local councils are being encouraged to merge with others becoming united communities. The word «united» is not a random word, it also carries a certain meaning. There is a demographic problem in the country and many local communities are becoming less populated which causes certain issues in regards to public services such as hospitalization, fire services, and other. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 15:35, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Are there any examples of current OTTs and how they relate to the districts of which they are/we a part of? For example, when a city (of district significance) unites with most of its surrounding settlement and rural councils, does the district's government cease to operate? Or does that district's government continue to exist along with the OTT? It sounds like at least initially, the newly formed OTT council is still an administrative level below a district/raion council, but that after the other lower-level councils within the OTT are abolished that it rises to district level? Again, an example of an OTT to see what it's current status is would be very helpful in this discussion. --Criticalthinker (talk) 11:09, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Criticalthinker, I already provided you with an article from the Ukrainian Wikipedia higher. Here it is again: uk:Список об'єднаних територіальних громад України (List of united territorial communities of Ukraine). It looks like someone does follow on the subject and updates the list pretty consistently. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 14:54, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Please read WP:COPYWITHIN before copying large chunks from one article to another; better yet, consider how much is really needed at the destination, and summarise. Pinkbeast (talk) 14:22, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Pinkbeast, involvement of Russian so-called "volunteers" (or little and very polite green men) in Bosnian conflict is known very well throughout the post-Soviet states. There is a very well established euphemism of those state-sponsored "volunteers". Yet the article completely lacks that fact. How is that possible? Instead of being added to the main article, information about Russian "volunteers" is only mentioned in some side article. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 16:14, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
This has nothing to do with what I said. Please read WP:COPYWITHIN.
As regards the rest, even the giant block of text you added did not in any way suggest the Russians were not volunteers. I'm not saying they were! I am only too well aware that meddling in the rest of Europe did not begin with Vladimir Putin. But if the infobox is going to say it, the article must say it, and if the article is going to say it we must have cites to support it. Pinkbeast (talk) 21:45, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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I am really amazed that after having made 100K edits you still have no idea how WP:V and WP:RS work, but your edits in Alexander Zakharchenko completely disagree with these policies. I reverted the edit.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:04, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This citation

Ex-militant Prilepin: Zakharchenko categorizes himself and residents of Donbas to Ukrainians (Экс-боевик Прилепин: Захарченко относит себя и жителей Донбасса к украинцам). Fakty.ua. 12 July 2018

Does not support the following claim (which you gave it as a citation for):

Zakhar Prilepin who took numerous interviews with Zakharchenko and claimed that Zakhachenko is one of the most popular politicians in Ukraine.

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Toddy1, OK, but that citation shows how Prilepin describes Zakharchenko, does not? Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 19:19, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Back in 2017-2018 there was a strong political campaign of Prilepin in promotion of Zakharchenko as one of most influential politicians in Ukraine, without any consideration of how goofy it sounds. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 19:20, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Toddy1, the fact of political promotion of Zakharchenko by Prilepin could be traced on media resources in Ukraine, in Russia, as well as one published by pro-Russian activists. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 19:24, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Are you saying that what you have done is to make an analysis of media, to draw a conclusion that is not stated in the media you cited?-- Toddy1 (talk) 19:34, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Toddy1, I updated it, how is that? Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 19:39, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Toddy1, now check this citation

"Russian resigns to make way for Ukrainian as new head of 'Donetsk People's Republic'". the Guardian. Retrieved 9 February 2015. How does that support this scribble "He graduated from technical college and then worked as a mine electrician. Zakharchenko successfully traded chicken legs and broilers in the market almost all his life until Russia began the operation of Novorossia in Donetsk." And after that Ymblanter is accusing me in incompetency. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 19:49, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I stated that your edits do not comply with a number of fundamental Wikipedia policies. Concerning that citation, I did not add it. If it does not support the text, the text can go.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:52, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
One of the problems is that people add new statements in front of existing citations. Then other people move stuff, and an article with good citations gradually becomes crap. The answer is to move citations to the statements they support.
Deliberately adding statements with irrelevant citations only makes it worse.
Please do not create a situation where you force people to go to ANI. Wikipedia is infested with paid Russian editors who would love to see our side discredited. We win by showing the truth.-- Toddy1 (talk) 19:58, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Toddy1, I returned Prilepin influence on Zakharchenko rephrasing and carefully choosing refs. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 20:47, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I see that you have been careful to choose references that are relevant to the statement they are citations for. Thanks.-- Toddy1 (talk) 21:25, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Aleksandr, I have a few more questions I realized I don't think were ever answered concerning the administrative divisions of Ukraine:

1. Within Cities of Regional Significance which are divided into urban districts, do the urban districts cover the entire territory of the City of Regional Significance? In other words, is there ever any territory within a city like this that lies outside of an urban district?

2. Very similarly, in Cities of Regional Significance which are divided into urban districts, can there also exist subordinate subordinate rural, settlement and city of district significance councils? If so, are these subordinates settlements always contained within a single urban district, or can they cross urban district borders and exist in more than one? This is to ask whether a person, for example, might live under the jurisdiction of, say, a rural/settlement/city (of district significance) council which is under the jurisdiction of an urban district, which itself is under the jurisdiction of a city of regional significance?

3. Finally, I've seen plenty of cases where a city of regional significance has under its administration rural settlements/village councils. But do you know of any examples where a city of regional significance has under its administration a city of district significance?

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Criticalthinker, most of divisions like regional level (oblasts and other), district level (raions mostly), and individual settlements (villages, smaller cities, urban-like settlements) are all regulated and created by the Verkhovna Rada (Ukrainian parliament). Urban districts within cities are voluntary units created by city council where they exist and not regulated by the parliament but allowed existence of such under separate legislation. The same goes for community councils like village councils (selsoviet, silrada), city councils, others.
Now if you look at the administrative division of Donetsk, it has smaller cities and other settlements that exist within the city's urban districts. On some of maps (created by Oleg Zima) those settlements depicted as an oscillated entities, however the area around them does belong to the same urban district as well, the reason why they shown like that is to better show their location in reference to the main city, while it also shows the city limits of the main city. So, those urban districts could stretch outside of the main city's limits. There also could be exclaves. The Irpin city council has its urban-like settlement of Kotsyubynske located with the Kiev city and surrounded by Svyatoshyne Forest. The city of Inkerman is a separate entity located within the city of Sevastopol, while the city of Balaklava located far away from Sevastopol urban area around the Balaklava Bay was dissolved. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 21:46, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Though I was very specifically asking whether, say, a city of district significance within a city of regional significance could have territory in multiple city districts? --Criticalthinker (talk) 15:17, 25 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Criticalthinker, frankly, nobody really knows the purpose of those cities of district significance and why those places really differ from urban-type settlements. Usually those are smaller cities that may or not be administrative seats of raions (districts). Now, urban districts of cities of regional significance if exist usually bigger that any cities of district significance. There are actually no examples of populated place being located in two or more districts regardless whether those are regular or urban districts. Agricultural lands around populated places often are not part of those places, but are included into community councils (silrada, miskrada, selrada, others). Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 01:16, 26 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. So, do you know of any Cities of Regional Significance that include within their borders Cities of District Significance? I guess what I'm still unclear of is that in regional cities which are also divided into urban districts, in the case that district city exist within one of those urban districts, is it suboridinate to the urban district council or the regional city council? This is a long way of asking which level of significant is a district city when it is also within the boundaries of an urban district, or is the district city not covered by the urban district? --Criticalthinker (talk) 05:49, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Criticalthinker, some of examples, Inkerman in Balaklava District (Sevastopol), Vynnyky in Lychakivskyi District (Lviv), Mospyne in Proletarskyi District (Donetsk), and others. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 10:32, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, then. So urban districts are another layer/overlay above the levels of city of district significance council, settlement council, or rural council. That is to say that a person that lives in Vynnyky, a city of district significance, also is said to live in the Lychakivskyi urban district and thus is under the jurisdiction of both and then Lvivi as a whole. So then an "urban district" is a half-step above the level of a city of district significance, urban-type settlement, or rural settlement. Got it. --Criticalthinker (talk) 20:46, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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