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"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing". – Attributed to Edmund Burke.

A barnstar for you!

The Minor barnstar
For doing minor AWB edits to a few articles on my watchlist. I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 03:39, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@I dream of horses, I’m not sure I’ve interacted with you before now, I probably have and I can’t remember, but for the longest time, not only have i admired your username, I literally have admired everything about your personality and how you edit and this has been from 2016 when I registered, thanks for the Barnstar, I also want to commend your activity at the WP:APAT PERM venue. Celestina007 (talk) 06:10, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
A major thanks to Primefac who gave me a chance to serve in this capacity as well. Celestina007 (talk) 06:12, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Whip Gate - Incidents During the Biden Administration

There are now five Wikipedia articles that link to the articke above. Thanks for the heads-up

Hey there

I've followed you for quite some time and your efforts at pointing out socks and paid editing. I wonder if you could take a look at something and just give me your advice as to what you see?

In conversation on User_talk:Torterra_Ketchum_5999, Itcouldbepossible made a claim that an IP editor is in fact Amkgp, even acknowledging they were blocked but edits on Wikipedia as an IP[1] to "help others". The editor, Torterra_Ketchum_5999, has been asked to either confirm or deny whether they are a paid editor which includes direct payment for article creation or simply an employee of Magic Moments Motions Pictures. Something that, at this point, they have not addressed. I will admit that, in both cases, the circumstantial evidence is there. @Torterra could just be a fan but they do seem to have some inside knowledge. In the case of the IP, it is possible they edit within a range of IP's but their knowledge of Wikipedia, as evidenced on User talk:Shinnosuke15 is alarming, including being directly addressed as Amkgp[2]. Amkgp had a history of editing while logged out even before being blocked and it continued after they retired User talk:Amkgp. Also disturbing is @Itcouldbepossible's attempt at canvassing through this conversation. [3]. Thanks for looking at it and offering insight. --ARoseWolf 17:22, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ARoseWolf, hello there, this is an interesting one, yes Nick noted a long time ago that Amkgp was in the habit of logging out to edit on AN as an IP. I’m not really sure I understand what is going on here but if Itcouldbepossible is stating categorically that the IP is Amkgp and goes on (to subliminally) hail Amkgp as an editor who “helps others” then that only makes it worse for Amkgp, as invariably they would have been evading a “block” which is abysmal I must say. As you noted, this, is really all shades of strange, but I believe this anomalies should be given special treatment at SPI, if Amkgp's behavioral pattern can be juxtaposed with the named editors then I think a loud quack can be sufficient enough for a clerk to endorse and a sysop to evoke an indef block. Celestina007 (talk) 23:00, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Whoa!!! I just cannot imagine things would have gone so far. Anyway, it is best to clear misconceptions before they go to far. Well, let me tell you celestina that AMKGP has been evading a block since really long. I cannot link all the diffs, but the fact is true. And I am not hailing Amkgp in anyway, and there is not a reason to do so. But, I said the quoted thing because, its really true that he helps newcomers, and same goes for me.
Now, let me clear what the thought that you are having, that I am a sockpuppet of Amkgp. First of all, do you know that I was once blocked, by Blablubbs? Maybe you didn't. Now let me tell you why I was blocked. Well, this Amkgp we are all now taking about and whom you think I am a sock of, he filed a spi case against me, stating at I was a sockpuppet of DasSoumik. He provided some evidences, and that got me blocked for good. Later, Yamla unblocked me, with full consent of Blablubbs, because the technical details did not match at all. Thanks to her, because the evidences that he provided against me were enough for an indefinite block. Now why did Amkgp suddenly go crazy on me. The fact is that he created Ambarish Bhattacharya during "one of their loutsocking stints" as Blablubbs says on his talk page reply, which I have already linked previously. Now why would you think, I would have gone for deleting my own creation, which is applicable if you call me "the sock of Amkgp"? Secondly, why will I (if you consider me to be Amkgp) file a sockpuppet investigation case of another account that I created, especially when I know that the reasons I am giving would block me? Wouldn't it be counter productive to create an account, and then nominate my (if you think I am Amkgp) own article for deletion, and then file a sockpuppet investigation request against that account? I can give you more evidences if you want. I complain extensively about Amkgp on my talk page, and even ask administrators to block off his whole IP range. Then why will be doing that? Why will I be blocking myself (again if you think "myself" to be Amkgp)? Here Amkgp gives me a warning for one of my wrong edits which I had made while reverting vandalism (whereI myself had vandalized the article in an attempt of reversing vandalism, which I think can happen, because at that time I was new), then can you explain me why I (if you thing I am Amkgp) would be giving me a warning? I also give a stern reply to Amkgp, where I threat him, that I will complain against him at WP:ANI, if by any chance he does anything that I don't like. Again, why will I threat myself to complain at WP:ANI? You may not have answers to this questions, as you just made a wild guess against me, with just one evidence (that too a diff), and without investigating the matter in detail.
But, slowly I understood that Amkgp is not bad and would not be troubling me, and I saw that he follows me everywhere (which I did not like at the beginning), and helps me out when I do wrong editing (like messing up with wiki tags, or markups), and he even helped me reuse a reference in one of the articles that I had been developing. See this. And also he left a note on my talk page, on how to reuse references properly. And also he used to make good faith edits while editing, like adding citation to unreferenced things, and also adding trp details (along with citations), to Bengali TV shows. And from them on, I understood that he is good, and tries to help others out if he can. And that is why I said "helps other", with which you are thinking wrong things about me.
Well now to speak the truth, I never knew Rose Wolf would get so much violent, with such a small thing. Wonder what he /she has done? He / she has brought up the issue on Blablubbs talk page!!! Now really, that is somewhat funny. Anyway, I wrote a huge message just to make things as clear as possible. You can also put yourself in my place and think what you would have done is such a case. Imagine, I calling you a sockpuppet of someone else, just relying only one or two things. Ok, to sum up, I apologize for any misunderstanding that may have been caused. I think RoseWolf would be able to understand what I said, and clear any misconception that they might have of me. May you have a great editing career ahead. Thanks and regards. ItcouldbepossibleTalk 14:20, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Itcouldbepossible, I’m afraid I do not understand you, my sole comment pertaining to this ordeal is this very one you are literally replying to, no where did I ever state that you were a sock of anyone, so I’m puzzled as to why you’d think I’m assuming or thinking that you are Amkgp, in-fact it was you who has expressly stated twice now that Amkgp is evading their block to which my advice to ARW was to take this to SPI, this is easily substantiated as my advice (is literally above), thus my amazement as to why you are making statements such as “if you call me "the sock of Amkgp"?” what are you saying? who called you a sock? and where? I’m assuming good faith here but please do not cast such aspersions next time. Celestina007 (talk) 21:20, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I apologize for opening this up to you, Celestina. I have no idea where this editor is getting the baseless claim that any of us have said they are a sock puppet of anyone. I am not at all concerned with this editors past with a potential block evader. I am only concerned with what appears to be multiple issues all around this particular subject which is disruptive to our collaborative effort. We have a potential editor with an undisclosed coi creating articles only related to a specific television production company in India but to this point has not said anything confirming or denying this. We have an IP editor that has stated they have used multiple random IP addresses to edit for the past 9 years engaged in placing warnings all over said users talk page for the same exact edits which border on WP:HUSH concerns to me. This same IP has been accused of being an editor that has been indefinitely blocked from editing, a claim they have only just now said is untrue but never refuted it in any of the other cases where they were accused. If that is the case then the accuser owes the accused a big apology as they have repeated this claim over and over. And you have this editor that claims that I have gotten "violent" because I sought the guidance of an experienced editor in this community which had no ties to this situation at all and that of an admin which has had some ties to it on the periphery but I believe can discuss things objectively as they haven't taken sides in this particular case. I am dumbfounded, perplexed and disturbed by the aspersions cast here by @Itcouldbepossible and I humbly ask them to apologize to you for these accusations. I will restate this. I do not believe this is a small thing. the integrity of Wikipedia is under assault from all angles. Whereas we can not treat Wikipedia as a battleground and we are to assume good faith, something I have called for on multiple occasions in regards to these editors, we also must protect the integrity of the encyclopedia by educating ourselves and others on the core principles of Wikipedia and how to execute them properly as a community and when necessary take the steps to ensure said principles are being followed through collaboration, dispute resolution and enforcement mechanisms. --ARoseWolf 16:32, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
ARoseWolf, ARW, you do not need to apologize, your actions have been in accordance with policy, I am no stranger to both ad hominem or editors casting aspersions, since Ritchie333 closed the last ANI case I was involved in concerning my approach to unethical editing, I have consciously always chosen my words very carefully when conversing with editors thus I pay no mind to aspersions being cast on me as I know I haven’t erred, however if it continues I know the best route to follow to handle such cases. Back to real business, honestly I appreciate and understand perfectly your frustrations when you have raised concerns about a particular editor and the relevant institutions do not take action, for example, see this, they note the behavioral evidence is there, but technical evidence isn’t (oh well, I’m no Checkuser or clerk but I can tell you expressly how Checkuser works, through email) I do not necessarily blame sysops for this sort of inaction(s) rather i believe it’s a systematic problem, in the past, some bold sysops who took “bold” actions, paid dearly for it, thus sysops are (extremely conscious) or (are very conservative) about taking bold actions, and this isn’t necessarily a good or bad thing but oh well (it is what it is), if you have reported a particular editor for their problematic actions be it at COIN, AIV, AN, or ANI, and nothing was done, what you want to do is, if the pattern is re-occurring is file a new report show diffs and in your new report reference the former report you made, wait for input, then propose a sanction. That usually works. Another way may be to email the Checkuser team directly, although sometimes I prefer working with Arbcom when it involves personal data, and even sometimes even if personal data or outing isn’t a problem, I find them efficient. Celestina007 (talk) 19:25, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent advice! This is why I came to you. Thanks again. --ARoseWolf 19:29, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
ARoseWolf, ARW, please continue your goods works, I’m always available(even via email) if you need more in-depth responses to nebulous statements I have made. Thank you for your good works ARW, we are grateful to have you here. Celestina007 (talk) 19:36, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Celestina007 Ok Celestina. I did not cast asperations on you just like that. You said this anomalies should be given special treatment at SPI, if Amkgp's behavioral pattern can be juxtaposed with the named editors then I think a loud quack can be sufficient enough for a clerk to endorse and a sysop to evoke an indef block. What did you mean by 'named editors'? You are talking about indef blocking, whom were you taking about blocking? You were saying about a loud quack. Who is your opinion is loud quacking here? Natually, I thought you were referring all those to me, since only I am a 'named editor' here, who is involved in this matter. That is why I said that you were thinking I to be a sock of Amkgp. Or what else? Did I mis understand you? If yes, then please correct me. Miscommunications can always happen.
Ok, in the second case, I accept my inefficiency in choosing words, and the I accept that 'violent' does not go here. It was not wrong from her part to ask experienced editors for help. I just wanted to mean, that she was taking matters too far, when they could be solved more easily. Next you are talking about emailing the Checkuser team, which I don't have any problem in, but my question is if you don't suspect me to be Amkgp, or whoever, they why are you telling about Checkusers? These things are not really clear to me. Again, it could be the fact that I might have misunderstood what you have written, so I am seeking you to clarify what you write.
And regarding this 'Amkgp matter', I am not sure if he is Amkgp or not. I always think him to be Amkgp since he filed my SPI case when I sent one of their articles to AFD. And that was again from that 2402:3A80 range. Though the range is big, but he always used it, but there can still be many others who uses that range. So again there, I cannot say it surely that he is obviously Amkgp. Secondly, it was only on TorteraKetchum's talk page where he denied the fact that he was Amkgp, and no where else. I had accused him to be Amkgp in many places, but he denied none of them. So naturally, when one doesn't deny an accusation that has been placed on them, then we can accept the fact that they accept what is being said. Right or wrong?
Anyway, I think all this dispute type thing should stop here, since we are just fighting for nothing relating to us. And all this trouble started when the IP, issued his view even after issuing an warning. So, please lets stop here.
And, I might be as well as wrong, about the identity of the IP, so I think I owe him an apology.
Respected Mr. / Mrs. 2402:3A80
I Itcouldbepossible, am really sorry for calling you Amkgp repeatedly, and insulting you here and there. I thought you were so, because you had never denied the accusation before. But, you are really Amkgp, then let me tell you that even if your edits are good faith, and you are trying to help other, and keep Bengali TV show related articles vandalism free, but you are actually evading a block. But, if you really aren't Amkgp, then I am really really sorry for calling you so, and saying all the things I said above. So, please forgive me.
Yours sincerely
Itcouldbepossible.
PS: I am sorry Celestina for writing all this here, but I think it is the best place to write, since you can also see my apology. I am the IP editor will also see this, since he follows my contributions. ItcouldbepossibleTalk 07:21, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

One to keep an eye on

I smell a UPE farm. Also Sockery. Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Kiambu1 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 19:49, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Timtrent, I have added them to my watchlist, the duck quack is extremely deafening. Celestina007 (talk) 20:04, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Timtrent, and as usual anti spam / upe has triumphed over unethical practices, thanks to you and every other editor out there ensuring only credible and honest articles are retained on mainspace. @Bbb23, a big thank you to you as well. Celestina007 (talk) 22:52, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed it has, and always will, though we are under increasing pressure.
You will likely wish to make an assessment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Solomon Kinuthia of whether I am correct or incorrect in my deletion rationale. I am, of course, content with either or neither. FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 22:55, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I have weighed in on the AFD and !voted a Delete accordingly, as I can’t see NPOL met. Regarding your first comment, I have a saying, that no matter how sophisticated an editor is in evading scrutiny, in due time they would get the appropriate sanction invariably coming their way. I am yet to see where dubious editing triumphs over good/Truth. Furthermore kudos to sysops such as Blablubbs, TheresNoTime, MER-C, DGG, Rosguill, Drmies & a host of others I cant seem to remember right now, Also, a major thank you to prestigious & special editors like Kudpung who basically is the original anti UPE editor & Praxidicae who is beyond special & extremely intelligent. I’m very much appreciative of their efforts in tackling UPE, it is indeed a strenuous place to work in, but a very necessary sacrifice if we desire to keep the integrity of the collaborative project. Celestina007 (talk) 23:27, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Bless them, a new head has sprung up. I do hope we are not going to see a sudden surge of socks. FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 09:26, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Servare et Manere

Dear Celestina007, thank you for the warning. Sorry, I'm not interested in continuing editing. I'm really tired of it. In my opinion, the Draft:Servare et Manere site is in order, written in a comprehensible way and contains true information. I discussed it with the editor who flagged the page as inappropriate. I have edited all the details, but it has been re-tagged. So when I told the editor who marked the page as "an adept to deleting" to edit what needed, he told me it wasn't his job. His job was only marking the site for deletion. It is very unfair and I am really tired of it. It is very easy to mark and damage. That is why I refuse to return to this subject. Do what you want with the Draft:Servare et Manere site. I've had a lot of work with it and it's useless. I lost interest. Best wishes, Marek

I’m not sure why you are leaving me this message, i wasn’t the one who left the tag as you stated above, the draft seems to have been deleted by a sysop, so let’s do a recap, it wasn’t I who tagged the article, it definitely wasn’t I who deleted the draft, I do not have the ability to do so, so why exactly are you leaving me this message? Or did you erroneously do so? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Celestina007 (talk) 22:11, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Request to move Sreeleela page to main space

Hi, Thanks for your suggestions/ guidance for the betterment of Wikipedia platform.

Sreeleela is an Indian actress working in Telugu and Kannada language films here in india with huge notability. I have written this Wikipedia article with all reliable sources and i have just updated the draft file and submitted based on your suggestions now.

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Request to move Sreeleela Page to mainspace

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Thank you

Hello, Celestina007,

I wanted to thank you for attempting to mediate a situation the other day. I do hope things improve. What happens is, basically, from 00:00 UTC to 06:00 UTC on Wikipedia, the other editor and I are stepping on each other's toes as we undertake some of the same admin responsibilities. The only solution I see is to give each other space.

You know, it's a big, big project but when you are drawn to similar time-specific tasks, you can find yourself and another trying to do the same action at the same time which just leads to frustration on both sides. Imagine if two AFC reviewers were reviewing the same draft at the same time...there would probably be the same result but it's a bit of a collision which is why I think AFC has safeguards in place to prevent this from happening. Any way, I appreciated you trying to make peace, hopefully, it's lasting and our calmer selves will prevail over our more prickly selves. Stay well. Liz Read! Talk! 23:31, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Liz, yes you are correct about afc, if I’m in the process of reviewing an article I can always indicate so, and the next reviewer would move on to another article in the pool. Indeed when I observed the misunderstanding between the other editor and yourself I made an educated guess as to what the issues could be. I agree that a mutual understanding between yourself and the other party could be pivotal in resolving any potential misunderstandings moving forward. Celestina007 (talk) 15:36, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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21:14, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Y’all call it a Quack?

See this Roibagger and Fatai01: a coincidence in creating a single article? I do not know. So, if you can, look into it. Calling it quit for today. --Reading BeansTalk to the Beans 19:55, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like it has been handled, sorry for the late response, i have been rather busy with my real life work. Celestina007 (talk) 23:17, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:Teahouse § From the WikiProject desk at The Signpost

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Teahouse § From the WikiProject desk at The Signpost. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 17:16, 9 February 2022 (UTC) 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 17:16, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello my friend

Just to let you know, I will not be making further edits to the Teahouse for the time being. Hopefully I will be able to return to helping others there soon. --ARoseWolf 14:38, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ARoseWolf, Oh my! It’s always a big blow when regulars who know policy are taking a break, But I perfectly understand, I myself haven’t been as active as I want to, due to taking up more roles “behind the scene” Ah! I do hope to see you back to editing sooner than later💗 Celestina007 (talk) 19:16, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@ARoseWolf That goes for me, too. Nick Moyes (talk) 16:34, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Anupam Pandey (Software Engineer) (07:33, 12 February 2022)

Hi --Anupam Pandey (Software Engineer) (talk) 07:33, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes you can. See WP:CHU. Celestina007 (talk) 10:07, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Capital letters

Thank you for your input on new articles. However I've been trying to say in summaries that there's a reason why you're finding degree subjects capitalised, and it's the same reason that I just wrote capitalised - it's British English. University of Oxford, p. 6: "Capitalise the name of a subject when it is used as part of a course title, but not if it is used in other contexts". University of Nottingham: "Capitalise the name of a subject when it is used as part of a course title, but not if it is used in other contexts", St Andrew's: "Use capitals when referring to degree titles". Unknown Temptation (talk) 00:59, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I understand your point. Celestina007 (talk) 01:25, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

An Update On Spamming and Undeclared Paid Editing (Exponential Dearth Of UPE/COI)

There has been an exponential dearth in less than ethical practices such as COI & UPE in the English Wikipedia and this is so because the English Wikipedia has done so well in combatting unethical practices, we possess an artillery of external clandestine anti spam/UPE tools making dubious editing on the English Wikipedia next to impossible to perpetuate without being caught. What is happening now is most of this spammers are in a dilemma and have had no other choice than to move to the Simple English Wikipedia or other sister projects with less scrutiny as correctly stated by Timtrent below, to continue spamming but fortunately for us and unfortunately for them, we have grandmaster anti spam editors like MER-C & TheresNoTime holding down the forth on other sister projects while myself, Dan ardnt, Timtrent, Praxidicae, DGG and a plethora of other anti spam editors are holding down the forth here on the English Wikipedia. Celestina007 (talk) 20:36, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

They also use less well policed places such as Wikiquote and Wikidata, both of which are annoying. FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 20:43, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
DGG, DGG I believe it is a function of time and willingness to do so, if you have the time to do so, then yes it is worth checking simple also but if not you aren’t under any obligation to do so. Although You might like to take a look at this spamming (on English and Simple Wikipedia) i nabbed and reported here which I filed to ANI, of which no admin patrolling ANI thought it wise to do something about probably because I didn’t propose any sanctions so I guess I’m to blame for that being archived with no action. it is worth checking simple too, but I wouldn’t classify as mandatory. Celestina007 (talk) 12:57, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Furthermore it was MER-C who alerted me to this new trend. Yesterday I was pinged my MER-C about a serial spammer see here. To be honest the trio of MER-C, Blablubbs, & MarioGom are really proving to be a very effective impenetrable wall of defense against spamming on sister projects. Celestina007 (talk) 12:10, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Whilst speaking on our success against less than ethical practices, I would also mention GSS & TheAafi. Celestina007 (talk) 15:24, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hey thanks Celestina007 for giving me a place. This was one of the reasons that made me gain consensus in getting a patroller group created on Urdu Wikipedia. I recently discovered a user, and they had even written a self-vanity page on the Simple Wikipedia (it is being considered for deletion currently on that Wiki); SPA, self-promotion and UPE are areas where possibly we need a cross-wiki effort, because this is a cross-wiki abuse. I'd be glad in providing any assistance if required on the Urdu Wikipedia. Regards, ─ The Aafī (talk) 16:46, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
m:Wikiproject:Antispam. MER-C 18:49, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
MER-C, just wow. I added my contact over there. ─ The Aafī on Mobile (talk) 20:51, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
As I understand it, nofollow prevents the links inserted in a WP article from counting in pagerank. It does not prevent google from indexing the page. That's NOINDEX, and pages in mainspace are accessible to INDEXING--we want people to find them, for the details of that see WP:NOINDEX DGG ( talk ) 01:18, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Your understanding is correct. In general spam links are inserted in the hope of increasing SERP rather than getting direct visitors. A part of SERP is the number and 'quality' of independent inbound links, best delivered to a page that is not a site's home page. Wikipedia is seen as an excellent neighbourhood by search engines, so nofollow negates that inherent advantage.
I run MW and other software based sites and have set the default to be nofollow to all links. FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 09:51, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
nofollow doesn't stop the article from getting to the top of Google, which is the point of UPE. MER-C 19:48, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
One of the improvements I would like to see in AfCH is a notice with a submitted draft whether there is a corresponding article in another WP. This would be useful in both directions;It would catch at least some ofthe cross-wiki spamming. It would also help us not lose articles which are merely low quality unacknowledged translations or even decent quality translation that don't include the references. There are of course problems from the names in different languages, but we have wikidata to identify at least some of these. DGG ( talk ) 01:18, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I wonder if @Enterprisey and other developers would find that easy. It sounds a worthwhile enhancement FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 09:53, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds like a good idea, for the reasons described. I would imagine this would be better placed in the template, instead of the script. I don't know who to ask to get that changed; probably WT:WPAFC is a fine default. Enterprisey (talk!) 07:12, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mohona Maiti

Hello, Celestina007,

I wanted to alert you to kind of a fluke that exists. For some reason, when User:Ts12rAc moves a page from main space to draft space, he doesn't leave behind a redirect but a blank page. He is also listed as the page creator of that page and makes the only edit to it. But the page should be tagged as a CSD R2. We're not sure why this happens when he uses the Draftify script but it might have something to do with his status as a global rollbacker. As far as I know, he is the only editor who this happens to but it can be confusing and since you do so much patrolling, I thought I'd alert you to this peculiarity. Thanks for all of the work you do, Celestina007! Liz Read! Talk! 00:18, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Liz, thanks for the notification. I believe it’s a technical related issue, are they using a mobile device? Are they distraught about this? Perhaps VP(Technical) can be of help. Thanks for the heads up Liz. Celestina007 (talk) 00:57, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • To be honest, I don’t even think I’ve been doing much patrolling of late. For a while now, I have been doing more back end technical related activities, but I still make it a habit to glance through each day, just in case I observe spammers spamming. Celestina007 (talk) 00:17, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for helping to make my article better!

The Typo Team Barnstar
Dear Celestina, you are a gem! Minard38 (talk) 22:47, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Whilst I’d gladly accept this, it would be disingenuous of me not to mention it was semi automated, so whilst It was I who gave the technical command, it was a semi automated tool that did the heavy lifting. Celestina007 (talk) 23:19, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Really sweet of you to call me a gem.😊 Celestina007 (talk) 09:02, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

WP:AFC Helper News

Hello! I wanted to drop a quick note for all of our AFC participants; nothing huge and fancy like a newsletter, but a few points of interest.

  • AFCH will now show live previews of the comment to be left on a decline.
  • The template {{db-afc-move}} has been created - this template is similar to {{db-move}} when there is a redirect in the way of an acceptance, but specifically tells the patrolling admin to let you (the draft reviewer) take care of the actual move.

Short and sweet, but there's always more to discuss at WT:AFC. Stop on by, maybe review a draft on the way? Whether you're one of our top reviewers, or haven't reviewed in a while, I want to thank you for helping out in the past and in the future. Cheers, Primefac, via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:59, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

New message from OakRedwood

Asking Advice

Hello, I just saw your name as a host on Teashop, and you looked like a good person to talk to. I am wanting to create my first Wikipedia page, and was hoping for your advice on notability and conflict of interest.

Firstly, here is a summary of the person I’d like to write about. Do you think this meets the criteria of notability?

- He began his career on BBC Radio London as a producer, where he presented a weekly programme on religious current affairs and news. He also hosted two phone-in programmes, one of which was a request programme with a live Salvation Army band. He later became a full-time radio and television news journalist for ITV, while also continuing non-stipendiary work with the Church of England.

He was made a Canon of Ely Cathedral, and also received an MBE from the Queen for his work for the Church and the Community. This community work involved running a charity from his home for people with autism. Through this charity, he raised over one million pounds to fund a home for autistic adults in Cambridgeshire. This was the first such service in the county.

Secondly, I need to ask you about conflict of interest. As I am related to the person I wish to create this page for, I believe it would be improper for me to create it myself. However, I have gleaned numerous citations about his work, and believe there are many others that could be accessed.

Do you know of someone who could stand in for me when it comes to creating this page?

Many thanks. OakRedwood (talk) 14:14, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello OakRedwood and sorry for the late response, hey, moving forward there is a precise manner in which you are to leave me a new message, I detail it at the top of my User-page, that way your message is correctly placed at the bottom of my TP indicative of the most recent message left on my talk-page. To your question, if you have a conflict of interest with the person you want to create an article for, you are strongly advised not to do so, rather, going to WP:RA and listing this individual there would prove helpful as a volunteer editor would create the article on your behalf. Celestina007 (talk) 00:03, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Addendum; this may take a while, but invariably, in due time it would be done. Celestina007 (talk) 18:27, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Hi, I need clarity on citation/references. The articles I produce are somewhat always tagged with Notability and Unreliable sources, it worries me a lot. On your point of view without referring from what other editor thinks, are articles Mvzzle, Rethabile Khumalo, Judy Jay and Mall of the North poorly sourced? Neoinsession (talk) 00:20, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Neoinsession, hey, what I am able to see almost immediately is that the tone of the article is not in accordance with what an encyclopedic article should (sound) like, this is somewhat inconsequential as it can be easily fixed but our team of fine copy-editors however, what this does, is that it brings [close] scrutiny to the article, upon which loopholes are bound to be found. Unfortunately notability and the reliability of the sources are indeed of concern. Take for example this article; Mvzzle when I check the sources I see sources with no reputation for fact checking and some without a clear editorial oversight. You may choose to see what constitutes a reliable source in WP:RS, and for notability criteria as a general concept and notability guide for musicians, see WP:GNG & WP:MUSICBIO, respectively, One of the aforementioned articles, namely; Mall of the North has already been marked as reviewed by MB so I am unclear as to why you bring it up, although I note it was draftified in late 2021. If you are unable to write an article properly it isn’t a big deal all you need do is simply use the WP:AFC route to submit articles, that way the reviewer can help out in pointing out potential problems with the article be it the tone, sources, MOS, grammar, relevant policy and whatnot, that way, by the time the article is accepted it would read like an encyclopedic article. Celestina007 (talk) 17:54, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jean D'amour Mutoni

Unilateral move to main space after you draftified it. Another "Entrepreneur", but may just be notable FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 11:25, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Timtrent, ah! I see our famous “entrepreneurs” are at it again. I’m currently at my place of work so I’m unable to do much & probably may not bother to use any anti spam tools on this one, checking for cross wiki spamming might be worth it but I don’t believe I have the mental energy to pursue this one, contacting a trusted editor at WP:RWANDA to do a source analysis might be a move I’d be willing to take as soon as I log out of work for the day. Celestina007 (talk) 13:21, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I tend to forget that I am retired! I was never, though, an entrepreneur! FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 13:25, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I encountered a BLP recently who at the time was a "serial entrepreneur", I wondered if he had been convicted or something. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:41, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Gråbergs Gråa Sång, oh my days. I’m literally chortling as I type this. Celestina007 (talk) 18:24, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe a typo by the kink of cornflakes? Cereal entrepreneur, perhaps? Nick Moyes (talk) 21:45, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

James Koblah Bruce Vanderpuije

This is interesting. Moved to main space WAY before ready by an apparent schoolkid. This smells of fish. I am wondering about a UPE sock farm, under the schoolkid, who has been here longest FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 22:08, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Deo Gratias Photo Studio may be notable, but has been put into mainspace by some of the same players. FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 22:22, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AfD: Nominated for deletion; see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donna Johnson (mayor)

I nominated Donna Johnson (mayor) for deletion. While you only did some minor edits, I am informing you as you did edit the article--Mpen320 (talk) 05:15, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Skepticism and coordinated editing proposed decision posted

The proposed decision in the Skepticism and coordinated editing has been posted. Please review the proposed decision and draw the arbitrators' attention to any relevant material or statements. Comments may be brought to the attention of the committee on the proposed decision talk page. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:00, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Change notification

See Template:HZM Line 1 -- ZandDev (msg) 15:45, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there, I’m sorry, is there something you are trying to reference? Or is this message meant for another editor here? Celestina007 (talk) 16:21, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This was a notice for you. I'm trying to show you the changes which led me to undo your edit. -- ZandDev (msg) 19:11, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Un-do my edits? Can you show me a diff? Sometimes I use semi automated tools to edit, but I need a diff in order for me to grasp totally what you may be trying to imply or just tell me what article was affected. Peace Profound. Celestina007 (talk) 14:54, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How to remove banner for RABI (artist)

Hi there thanks for helping me add artist to the page. Can you tell me what needs to be removed to make the page stronger? I came up on some more links that are strictly about the artist and will add those as well.

Thank you in advance!! Romanstuff (talk) 23:07, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there, by banner I presume you mean the {{notability}} tag right? It was introduced by Slywriter, in this edit, I’m afraid I am unable to remove the tag, I think communication with Slywriter is the better route to follow. But you can improve the article by reading WP:RS and citing relevant reliable sources in the article. You can tell when a source is reliable by checking for editorial oversight or look up the source itself and check to see if they have a reputation for fact checking. If either is absent it may be a good idea not to use the source. I’m here if you need me to expatiate on any anything I have just (said). Celestina007 (talk) 23:13, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Romanstuff, The issue was and remains that the sources are virtually all interviews. So much of the information fails WP:V as no independent source has vetted. It all falls under WP:ABOUTSELF. If independent sources, not more interviews, can be added then please do so.Slywriter (talk) 01:07, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
(Also, best to move further discussion to article talk page. Just realized was on Celestina's page)Slywriter (talk) 01:08, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Created page doesn't show up on Google

Hello Celestina

I'm freshman in Wikipedia, so I have questions. As my knowledge, you're the mentor. I've recently created a page. You can check out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kateryna_Gornostai

When I search this article through Google, it doesn't show up. Even I searched by the words 'Kateryna Gornostai wikipedia'. The result was in only French version. This French version is, I'm sure, the copy and translation of my article. It was created even later than mine.

So can you please explain what is going on? Is it something wrong with article (I mean with the codes)? Is there anything, please let me know. I really want my article will rank on Google.

Kind regards, Kamron — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kamron99 (talk • contribs) 10:25, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kamron99, hello there, there is nothing wrong with your coding. What you are experiencing is perfectly normal, when an article is created by an editor without Autopatrol rights or has not been marked as reviewed by a new page reviewer, the article wouldn’t be indexed on the (google) search engine until the expiration of 90 days. What this means is, your article is currently in the new pages feed queue and is awaiting assessment by a reviewer, once the article has been vetted and no problem identified it is marked as reviewed & then it would “pop up” on the search engine almost instantaneously, but unfortunately if it isn’t reviewed by a reviewer it may take up to 3 months before it automatically indexes. If you are unclear about anything I have just stated please do let me know. Celestina007 (talk) 13:15, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Again me

First of all, thank you for your quick response. I really appreciate it.

You mentioned a reviewer that has to review my article. Who can be a reviewer, special Wikipedian, or anyone? If it is anybody, I think, it's not a hard thing to ask a friend for a favor or to create another account just for making reviews? Please, clarify my thoughts.

@Kamron99, hey, next time you can just continue the conversation with me by editing the entry you made and continue asking questions, “You mentioned a reviewer that has to review my article. Who can be a reviewer, special Wikipedian, or anyone?” A reviewer can be anyone who is at least 3 months old and has made at least 500 uncontested edits to mainspace, but it is more complex than it sounds, typically it involves an editor having more than satisfactory knowledge of our WP:notability standards, our WP:DELETIONPROCESS but that is something for much later, as it still goes a lot more in-depth than I can explain in a day, You may choose to see NPR “If it is anybody, I think, it's not a hard thing to ask a friend for a favor or to create another account just for making reviews?” Please, No, no, the other account wouldn’t have the NPR so “it isn’t just anyone”, secondly, except for legitimate purposes, you may not use more than one account to edit Wikipedia that is major breach of our policy, it is called WP:SOCKPUPPETRY and may cause you to have your editing privileges revoked. You have done your part, it is time for you to sit back and relax and allow new page reviewers do their part by patrolling and reviewing articles. Unfortunately, there is no way to speed up the process you just have to wait. Furthermore do you see the links(words in blue?) please click on them and they would lead you to a page which gives you more in-depth information. Celestina007 (talk) 14:06, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Celestina for your support — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kamron99 (talk • contribs) 14:57, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Re ACC

Hello, Celestina007. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 16:27, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I've sent an email, instead of posting here, as it relates to the ACC tool. Just wanted to clarify things regarding some of your defers to the CU queue. Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 16:27, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

State Spamming?

See Special:Contributions/Ebubechukwu1, and dig down for their editing colleagues. I hear quacking ducks FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 19:12, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Timtrent, to be honest, I’ve observed this for a while now, I’m not so sure now but I think it started as a contest or something along those lines until what it has morphed into I would take a more pedantic look into it today now. Celestina007 (talk) 19:33, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2022-09

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Recent changes

  • When searching for edits by change tags, e.g. in page history or user contributions, there is now a dropdown list of possible tags. This was a request in the 2022 Community Wishlist Survey. [6]
  • Mentors using the Growth Mentor dashboard will now see newcomers assigned to them who have made at least one edit, up to 200 edits. Previously, all newcomers assigned to the mentor were visible on the dashboard, even ones without any edit or ones who made hundred of edits. Mentors can still change these values using the filters on their dashboard. Also, the last choice of filters will now be saved. [7][8]
  • The user group oversight was renamed suppress. This is for technical reasons. You may need to update any local references to the old name, e.g. gadgets, links to Special:Listusers, or uses of NUMBERINGROUP.

Problems

  • The recent change to the HTML of tracking changes pages caused some problems for screenreaders. This is being fixed. [9]

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22:58, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

New to Wikipedia

Hi Celestina007,

It's glad to be assigned as a mentee to you. I am new here and have little idea how to begin on projects.

I know I must go by the tasks that your message asked me to volunteer with, but should I first begin by editing pages related to topics from my local area?

I would like to know your opinion on this matter and more on how to get better started and contribute to make Wikipedia a better place and myself a better writer.Bprs68 (talk) 02:50, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bprs68, Hello, and welcome to the collaborative project, also, thanks for leaving me a message, hey, can you confirm it was “I” you were assigned to? I do not see you listed as assigned to me, but that is no problem as I can perfectly be of help, although I do note something on the logs, and I presume you mistake or misinterpret some technical work I did for you, as automatically meaning you are assigned to me, however, like I stated earlier you are free to ask me any questions you want to.
From your first question, I think yes you are at liberty to do so, but start slowly, check for those type of articles and look out for minor errors such as spelling or grammatical related problems and feel free to remedy such. Hey! did you see WP:HI & WP:TUTORIAL yet? If yes, good job! and if not, checking those out is a good idea as a (general prerequisite to editing on mainspace) if you want to just “play around” a bit to check out how good your editing skills are developing/have developed, please see WP:SANDBOX. So yes that’s what I think, I need to also mention that at this stage bookmarking the WP:TEAHOUSE page is a brilliant idea, generally the idea is to ask & ask & keep asking, I recommend asking at the TEAHOUSE as a good idea because a plethora of editors are there to answer your questions round the clock, this is good because if you observe, you’d note that it took me a little while to see and reply to this message due to my day job, but the TEAHOUSE never sleeps. Welcome to collaborative project once again. . Celestina007 (talk) 14:28, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello sir, how I can report you an active paid user who created a few pages? I already sent an email to info-en email but how I can send you the details?

Hey there IP user, I’m not sure I can be of much help, i can only presume it may contain sensitive data, if you have sent it to over to info-en, I might take a look at it, unfortunately I really can’t do more than that right now, as I’m not sure I wield the mental energy for that at the moment. However, thank you for your contributions and thanks for stopping by. Celestina007 (talk) 14:07, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm pinging @Smallbones here, because I'm pretty sure I remember him inviting editors to report to him about paid users. Dutchy45 (talk) 09:14, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Dutchy45, I’m not sure pinging Smallbones or anyone, is a good idea. If the message the IP user sent to info-en contains sensitive material, discussing it on mainspace especially if it may contain information that may reveal a users identity is a very egregious transgression. See WP:OUTING. Celestina007 (talk) 22:18, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm afraid I don't see the problem. Smallbones is such an experienced editor, he knows better than almost anybody on WP how to handle a situation like this with sensitivity. Apologies if I"m wrong, but your reply makes me question if you know who Smallbones is. He is the editor-in-chief of the Signpost. Dutchy45 (talk) 01:29, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Request for help

Hello Celestina007, I read the signpost and I noted in article "10 years of tea" you said you enjoy teaching, so I was wondering if you can help me out? I have a fairly technical problem. I'm not a new editor (4+ years and 6000+ edits across the projects). Ofcourse I would understand if you're too busy. Dutchy45 (talk) 09:14, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dutchy45, hey there, are you having technical difficulty? Might I interest you in visiting VPT I believe that is a better venue for obtaining technical guidance. Celestina007 (talk) 17:24, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, will do! Dutchy45 (talk) 01:30, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Skepticism and coordinated editing closed

An arbitration case regarding Skepticism and coordinated editing has now closed and the final decision is viewable at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:

  • Rp2006 (talk · contribs) is warned against a battleground mentality and further incivility.
  • Rp2006 is indefinitely topic banned from edits related to living people associated with or of interest to scientific skepticism, broadly construed. This topic ban may be appealed after six months have elapsed and every six months thereafter.
  • A. C. Santacruz (talk · contribs) is reminded to remain collegial in editing and interacting with others.
  • Roxy the dog (talk · contribs) is warned to remain collegial in editing and interacting with others.
  • GSoW is advised that a presence on English Wikipedia, perhaps as its own WikiProject or as a task force of WikiProject Skepticism, will create more transparency and lessen some of the kinds of suspicion and conflict that preceded this case. It could also provide a place for the GSoW to get community feedback about its training which would increase its effectiveness.
  • Editors are reminded that discretionary sanctions for biographies of living people have been authorized since 2014. Editors named in this decision shall be considered aware of these discretionary sanctions under awareness criterion 1.

For the Arbitration Committee, –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 05:04, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Discuss this at: Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard § Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Skepticism and coordinated editing closed

Another Victory for Anti Spam/UPE + Obliteration of a Nigerian UPE Ring

Following this report which I filed after observing due diligence and making use of my vast anti spam tools, it appears i was apt as usual, almost all members of the UPE ring have been blocked. It is indeed another victory for anti spam Celestina007 (talk) 21:10, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Creation of New Article on Jennifer Uchendu

Good day, Celestina how do you do. Regarding the creation of a new article on Jennifer Uchendu, I have seen it has been created before and nominated for deletion. I request for reconsideration of a new article and following all rules about been notation, reason for requesting for this is due to the ongoing edit tha thon in progress of wiki for human. I await your responses.

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dammy Kaka (talk • contribs) 15:04, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dammy Kaka, not sure that’s a good idea. Please see this. Celestina007 (talk) 15:35, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mandava Sai Kumar

Hello, It seems the timing was same of the placement of tags on Mandava Sai Kumar, I had opened a discussion on his page as the Times of India profile seems he has some sort of work profile available, please feel free to correct me Thanks Suryabeej   ⋠talk⋡ 18:32, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Suryabeej, hello there, please see WP:CSD#G11. Celestina007 (talk) 18:35, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Redirects

Hi Celestina007 I was wondering if you could help me with something, I’ve seen your edits and I want to know how to create redirects. Could you please create a redirect from Charity Shop Sue to Shane Meadows as this is a tv series he has written and produced. Thanks Rockchick09 (talk) 21:30, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there I’m afraid that wouldn’t be attainable. Celestina007 (talk) 22:21, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi can I ask why not? I have read the rules on redirects and If a series isn’t notable enough for a page on its own why can’t it be redirected to the creator which mentions the series on his page. ThanksRockchick09 (talk) 23:17, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Rockchick09, because at the point you made the request/left the message on my tp the title was a red-link(yet to be created) thus It was literally impossible at that point. all that is sorted now. Peace Profound. Celestina007 (talk) 20:37, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • There was a problem with some interface labels last week. It will be fixed this week. This change was part of ongoing work to simplify the support for skins which do not have active maintainers. [10]

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  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 March. It will be on all wikis from 10 March (calendar).

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21:15, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello

Hi, Celestina007,

I feel the need for some Celestina007-style positivity and inspiration. How are you doing these days? Biggest news here, besides the war, is that our mask mandate lifts here on Saturday. I've been wearing a mask for so many months, I'll feel naked without it! Stay well! Liz Read! Talk! 01:30, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Liz, you know Liz, I was going to call you a night owl and talk about how bizarre it is that we both hardly sleep, then it hit me, i presume it’s barely 6pm in the city you reside in and it is 3:07am! in my city, so I guess I’m the one doing the night-owling, and the joke is on me :) I’m doing good Liz and thanks for asking, hope you are too. About the mask, I can relate, but you could always choose to put it on regardless. Good health and peace of mind are paramount and take preeminence over any other thing. Here’s a little fun fact for you before I get back to Netflix binging, I’m a firm believer in always putting on a mask and getting vaccinated, here are some fun facts which would make you chortle. (a) most people from my city have never worn a face mask since 2020 till date as they believe the weather is too hot for the virus to survive thus they are auto immune. (b) The covid vaccine is seen by most people in my city as the biblical “mark of the beast” / “Anti-Christ”. I swear I’m not even saying this to make you laugh, take a look. Oh boy! I love my city and their hilarious and unique perspective(s) and approach to most things. Nice to hear from you Liz, please do stay safe always. Celestina007 (talk) 02:13, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Well, if COVID-19 is seen as the "mark of the beast", you'd think they'd do whatever they can to not catch it! I'm a cancer survivor so I am still wearing my mask although my elderly mother couldn't wait to stop wearing hers! She's more vulnerable than I am because of her age but she's a survivor and I think her attitude is "If I lived through wars and depressions, a virus isn't going to kill me". I hope I have her spirit when I'm her age! Take care, Liz Read! Talk! 23:33, 17 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Liz, I’m sorry about that Liz, over mail we have discussed about ailments. By all means please continue to wear a mask, I cannot remember a time from 2020 till date were I haven’t worn one. Coincidentally some of my relatives share the same philosophy as your mother does, although their excuse or, rationale is “Jesus Got us (Spiritually) protected so we can’t catch the virus” & I’m like what??? But truthfully, even though I wear the mask all the time, I still pray for my health and pray for world peace. Tbh, I’m also spiritually inclined but that doesn’t give me an excuse not to put on one. Honestly I always wear one. Your mother's spirit is a strong one, i like her spirit, I have no doubt that when you are her age you’d have the same spirit, perhaps even stronger. Celestina007 (talk) 00:26, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2022-11

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  • There was a problem with the collection of some page-view data from June 2021 to January 2022 on all wikis. This means the statistics are incomplete. To help calculate which projects and regions were most affected, relevant datasets are being retained for 30 extra days. You can read more on Meta-wiki.
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Email

Please respond at your earliest convenience -- TNT (talk • she/her) 17:13, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

TheresNoTime, Replied TNT Celestina007 (talk) 18:43, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Gokulsedai on Suagpur (04:38, 16 March 2022)

Hi --Gokulsedai (talk) 04:38, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gokulsedai, hello there , my name is Celestina007, you have been assigned to me and forthwith you have become my responsibility, you are free to message me anytime you feel like it and ask me every question you have pertaining Wikipedia. I have gone ahead and welcomed you on your talkpage and have left some useful links that would prove helpful to your editing career, my job is to see to it that you fulfill your utmost potential so please I’m always available. If you find some of the links I provided to you on your TP to be confusing just let me know or just ask a specific question. Thanks for joining the collaborative project we are glad to have you. Celestina007 (talk) 08:44, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Suwagpur is real please chage the name in this place Suagpur to Suwagpur - Hello please publish my page. Gokulsedai (talk) 08:50, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Gokulsedai, I’m sorry I am unable to do so, on Wikipedia we work with what is verifiable please see WP:V and not truth. How do we ascertain verifiability on Wikipedia you might ask, we do this via the use of reliable sources please see WP:RS thus if you want to move that article to a different name you should provide some reliable sources that establishes the fact that the article's WP:COMMONNAME ought to be “Suwagpur”. Please See WP:CITE & WP:REFB to aid you in sourcing.
However, I want to add that this sort of editing is something we might want to drop for now and circle back to after you must have read some of our basic policies and guidelines. I’d like for you to begin by reading WP:TUTORIAL & WP:GETTINGSTARTED. I am currently at work thus I might not be available to answer your questions in the next 30 minutes to 1 hour, so if you have any pressing questions you might want to ask, please directly do so at the WP:TEAHOUSE or contact Nick Moyes directly. Celestina007 (talk) 10:52, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question

How do you make the box where you insert the userboxes on your userpage? Dinosaur TrexXX33 (chat?) 13:08, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

DinosaurTrexXX33, hello please see WP:UBX. Celestina007 (talk) 14:37, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Edyreuben

Edyreuben is an interesting-looking account. Not sure if there's socking, or just UPE, but I haven't got enough to go on. Maybe one to watch, with your all seeing eye?! Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 15:06, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Curb Safe Charmer thanks for stopping by, I would look into it. My all seeing eye you say Nahh not mine but that of all the editors engaging in fighting spam. Let the record reflect MER-C, TheresNoTime, Drmies, Blablubbs, DGG, TheAafi, Praxidicae, Timtrent, Dan ardnt, Rosguill and a plethora of other editors who aren’t coming to my mind at the moment, They are also just as hardworking as I am in our fight in obliterating spam and UPE. I would give you a feedback about the account you have reported to me. Curb give 30 minutes to look into this. Oh and yes indeed we are always watching and looking out for Spam/UPE. Celestina007 (talk) 15:48, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Curb Safe Charmer  Done and dealt with. They are clearly an spa for promotional purposes only. I agree with you that socking & UPE might be a factor here, in-fact I explained this in WP:TRIO. After this response to you, I’m putting on my anti spam lenses to look for more vital information. Depending on the complexity I might encounter, in 60 minutes i should have completed an extensive search and would give you the details. Celestina007 (talk) 16:25, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
well, I believe they're explicitly not here to build the encyclopedia. I personally suspect Amosflash given their article Wofai Samuel and Edyreuben uploading this image as an own work on 22 December 2021, several months after Amos was blocked for sockpuppetry. I might be wrong but that's what came to my mind. ─ The Aafī (talk) 17:06, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
See this and look at the articles history more. There you find one St theresa01 editing User:Eddysocial/Spax (producer). That is to say, this Edy might be Eddysocial? It is possible. ─ The Aafī (talk) 17:14, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
TheAafi, Very brilliant work there. @Curb Safe Charmer, we are probably dealing with socking and undeclared paid editing. The user is a WP:SLEEPER or a sock account and may be that of Amosflash and is probably connected with the editors named Deplug1, St theresa01 & Eddysocial. The aforementioned editors have a history of engaging in less than ethical practices and all of the aforementioned accounts have been indefinitely blocked. I have flagged the account. This is one giant sock farm or UPE ring engaging in Meat. I have forwarded the WP:NOTHERE evidence to MER-C. Celestina007 (talk) 17:30, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
100% of their Commons contributions are now up for deletion as copyvios or improperly licenced files. It's always pleasant to find things like that FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 17:59, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Timtrent This is quite infuriating I must confess, I have indeed dealt with this sort of (probable) spamming in the past, the idea is usually to inundate the reviewer with citation overkill so much so that the reviewer sees it and just “walks away”. I am however thick skinned and would follow this up to the point where no REFBOMB is present. I’m currently removing their ref bombing, I think at the point this report was made the article had about 75-80 references with some of them blatantly unreliable and some sheer rehashing of other existing sources in the article. Celestina007 (talk) 18:08, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Notexactlytaylorswift (16:25, 17 March 2022)

i want to make a page about the Potato bean kelp of the new forest, how do i do this? --Notexactlytaylorswift (talk) 16:25, 17 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Notexactlytaylorswift, I am so sorry for replying late as I’m actively executing other things, please can you kindly not create any article just yet? Please read WP:TUTORIAL & WP:GETTINGSTARTED before we discuss anything about article creation, please pedantically read them, or, an alternate is this; how about you just read WP:YFA and when you are done reading it let me know. Celestina007 (talk) 00:45, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ah ok, i wont make anything just yet. thanks Notexactlytaylorswift (talk) 12:53, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

More Progress At Anti Spam & Warning

A report was made to me yesterday by Curb Safe Charmer. Immediately I got to work, as I did so, dedicated anti-spam editors Timtrent, & most especially TheAafi who did a beyond brilliant job which I must commend them for, joined me in tackling this and in the end, it was a win for anti spam as MER-C executed their duties perfectly. “The All seeing eyes of anti spam & UPE” shouldn’t be mistaken for a gimmick that much I can definitively & expressly promise you, there isn’t any single spam or dubious-looking article that goes by, without at least one of our dedicated editors at anti spam flagging the article. Furthermore, WP:WPSPAM shouldn't be mistaken for a gabfest without action, because you best believe that we take serious actions. Having said, we are a peace-loving people who want the reputation of Wikipedia to remain unbesmirched, we aren’t actively hunting for spammers or undisclosed paid editors, No! that isn't what we do, we at anti spam edit in sensitive and contentious areas which has led to conflicts amongst the suspected dubious editors and one or more of our editors at anti spam, we know conflicts, we have seen a great number of conflicts, we do not want conflicts, but if you have come to cause conflict by creating dubious articles, engaging in meat puppetry, engaging in cross wiki spamming, creating sock accounts, engaging in undisclosed paid editing at the English Wikipedia and its sister projects or in any way attempt to harm our reputation, we at anti spam can promise you one thing, you would never accomplish that, and if you persist after several warnings, that you would be indefinitely blocked is not only a promise we always keep but an inevitable eventuality. Celestina007 (talk) 21:29, 17 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

They do seem to present themselves to us! Maybe we are all unbelievably attractive? FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 23:18, 17 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Timtrent, haha oh my days!!! 😂 Celestina007 (talk) 00:11, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from AwesomeAlex261 (15:43, 18 March 2022)

can people see the page(s) i put out? --AwesomeAlex261 (talk) 15:43, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AwesomeAlex261, hello there, by “pages” I presume you mean articles? If yes, then, it depends, if you share the url of an article you created then yes they can see the article, but conventionally if it has not been reviewed by a new page reviewer it takes about 90 days for the article to be indexed by google. Feel free to ask me more questions if you need further clarification. Celestina007 (talk) 20:11, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks AwesomeAlex261 (talk) 15:37, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Draft: Rhea Fossils

Hey Celestina007! Thanks for helping me with that article! I have another one which I helped make, called Rhea Fossilis. Could you help me get it published?--Puffin Crazy (talk) 18:45, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Puffin Crazy, hello there, it seems as though both in draftspace and in article name space that the article is not present could you cross check and see if you missed something? Celestina007 (talk) 20:19, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
User:Puffin Crazy - You mean Draft:Rhea Fossilis. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:59, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You haven't submitted it for review. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:04, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! I just submitted it for review. Puffin Crazy (talk) 15:13, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Poco Lee

I had just finished analyzing the references in the article in order to take it to AFD and then you moved it to user space. You moved it to user space rather than draft space because there is already a draft. When there are both a draft and an article by the same author or by associated authors (same employer or same human), it is sometimes due to ignorance but at least as often due to gaming the system to prevent moving the article to draft space. If it turns up in article space again, please don't move it again because I am ready to take it to AFD. There are a lot of sources and none of them are significant and secondary. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:58, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

But thank you. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:04, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • No, not quite, see WP:UFY as an alternative. Now, it technically couldn’t be moved to Draftspace as the draft was already in a Draftspace of a different account as you mention. So it wasn’t technically possible to move to draft, leaving it on mainspace would have been a bad idea also thus the reason it was userfied. For the SPI report, See here. Do what you must, honestly it is my candid belief that the article doesn’t appear to be legitimate. Once you create the AFD I’d weigh in and if a source analysis is required of me I’d do that too. Gaming is a factor here, probable COI, as aforementioned if you are having troubles with any of the sources, please do ping me. Celestina007 (talk) 02:08, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Ntheking (17:10, 19 March 2022)

I want to write on my poem collection,please help --Ntheking (talk) 17:10, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ntheking, hello and welcome, my name is Celestina, and to answer your question, I’m afraid Wikipedia doesn’t work in the way other websites do, that is, you cannot arbitrarily write about something and publish it, we are a collaborative project and we only publish material that is deemed notable, see WP:NOTABILITY. Furthermore another problem is we do not encourage the act of publishing materials in which the editor or author of the article has a conflict of interest in the article they are publishing, see WP:COI in this case this would be you publishing your book or poem as you have a vested interest. I’m sorry that this isn’t the response you were hoping to get. I am moving ahead to welcome you officially on your talkpage in that welcome message you’d see a number of links to relevant policy and guidelines that would aid you in understanding what Wikipedia is all about. You are at liberty to always ask me any questions any time you feel like it. In due time of your book/poem is notable enough a volunteer would create and publish it. Celestina007 (talk) 19:40, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Mohammed ibrahmraza hassanal on Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Submitting (20:46, 19 March 2022)

draft title problem --Mohammed ibrahmraza hassanal (talk) 20:46, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mohammed ibrahmraza, could you please tell me what the problem is? do you want to submit an article or do you want to change the name of a draft article? Please what precisely is the problem? I need to know the specific nature of your problem in order for me to determine the best approach to use in solving the problem. Celestina007 (talk) 20:55, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The wisdom in striking through

Nice edits at the RFA. Every one of us gets excited sometimes and reacts when we should hesitate. Me especially. Thanks for striking through and offering understanding where you chose to self-identify as a real human being. Thanks again. I like writing with people who frequently demonstrate good judgement, even when it may take them look less than stellar (perhaps especially so). BusterD (talk) 21:02, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

BusterD, thanks for the kinds words BD , I really do appreciate it. Thank you also for the good and arduous tasks you perform site wide. Celestina007 (talk) 21:09, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It is likewise always good to see your date stamp. I feel like a total amateur (and quite lazy) compared to some around here. Plus there are people who should swing the mop, but have due to their boldness may never be handed the mop. When trusted people own up to their humanity it makes this pedia a nicer place to create (and a larger community of trust). BusterD (talk) 21:19, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
BusterD, this indeed is very much correct. My thinking is, ego plays a major factor in editors refusing to own up to their mistakes or take responsibility for their actions, I for one, always make it a point of duty to acknowledge my errors and tender my apology to the relevant editor. If individuals could keep their ego aside when editing here, as you correctly put it, it does indeed make the collaborative project a nicer place to create / work in. “Sorry” is a magic word, apologizing is indicative of maturity, I really don’t know why people would let ego rob them of an opportunity to learn and grow. Celestina007 (talk) 21:38, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, (to me) that last assertion is a new way of expressing this. Sounds like something a Shaolin monk might say on 1970's tv show. Or one might hear at twelve step meeting. BusterD (talk) 21:44, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
BusterD, lmao, the part where you say “Or one might hear at twelve step meeting” got me & yes! you are apt that is literally what a Shaolin monk or a mystic guru would definitely say. Coincidentally I used to be a chela(student) of an oriental sadhguru. Celestina007 (talk) 21:56, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2022-12

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Question from AwesomeAlex261 (15:51, 22 March 2022)

hello Can I create multiple articles and put them on my user page --AwesomeAlex261 (talk) 15:51, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AwesomeAlex261, hello and welcome, I’m sorry for the late response I’ve been indisposed in the last 40 hours it so happens that my blood pressure is elevated, things have stabilized now, Alright! So to answer your questions, no you may not, I am afraid that wouldn’t be a good approach, what you may want to do is use your WP:sandbox or WP:Draftspace to “Draft the new article” then upon completion, submit it via the WP:AFC method. Having said, might I ask you if you have read WP:YFA, WP:GNG & WP:RS? If not please put all ideas of creating new articles on hold, read the aforementioned, and when you are done, do well to let me know. Please it is important that you read the relevant links I have pointed to you pedantically. Celestina007 (talk) 11:53, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
OK thank you! hope you feel better! @Celestina007 AwesomeAlex261 (talk) 14:51, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • AwesomeAlex261, thank you for the kind words, my health has indeed improved, please when you are done reading the aforementioned please let me know, if you find reading all the links too cumbersome, please just read WP:GNG after which I beseech you to message me, telling me you have done so. Thank you once again and remain safe. Celestina007 (talk) 16:41, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question From Ebubechukwu1

Good morning sir/ma,I'm Ebubechukwu a new editor from Nigeria and have been directed to your talk page to learn more about Wikipedia notability guideline because literally all the article i created get moved to draft for just one that reason.I'll be so glad to learn ma/sir. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ebubechukwu1 (talk • contribs) 06:27, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ebubechukwu1, I note this by NinjaRobotPirate, please do not take second chances for granted. To be honest, In order for me to answer your question I need to understand precisely why you are binge creating articles on Nigerian government agencies almost all of which are non notable? Pinging Timtrent if they have any questions or inputs they’d like to make. Celestina007 (talk) 12:17, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Ebubechukwu1 I have precisely the same question. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 12:20, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Ebubechukwu1 So Please do feel free to answer this concerns raised when or if you feel like it. Celestina007 (talk) 16:40, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      Good evening ma/sir.I'm working on a project concerning Lagos state parastatals and Ministry called WikiLagos and i Wanted to give my contributions to the project.
      I'm sorry about the way i replied @Star Mississippi.
      Thank you. Ebubechukwu1 (talk) 17:20, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      @Ebubechukwu1 I think it would be advisable for you to use the WP:AFC process, whcih has iterative reviews.
      This process is not compulsory. I cannot insist that you use it. What I can do is suggest that you will receive a benefit from using it. You will have drafts that are good enough accepted. Those that are not yet good enough are pushed back to you for more work, and can be re-submitted. Those that will never be accepted on the grounds of lack of notability will be rejected.
      This will save you work and save you from disappointment. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 17:43, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Responding here so it's in one place. Ebubechukwu1 there's nothing to be forgiven for. It takes a while to learn but please take @Timtrent:'s and my advice about draft space. Regardless of whether you have a COI, and I'm AGFing that you don't, it will help you. Star Mississippi 19:01, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Sel polisi (23:53, 26 March 2022)

Hello how can i create an edit for my grandpa that passed away --Sel polisi (talk) 23:53, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sel polisi, Oh my! I’m sorry to hear that. Per your question, there are certain things to consider, have you read WP:NOTABILITY? Have you read WP:GNG? If you have gone through the aforementioned, and you feel your grandpa was a notable individual, we then face another hurdle which is; Wikipedia frowns at creating articles on someone or something you are too close with. Please see WP:COI. There are two ways to approach this, the first is to read WP:COIDISCLOSE, then ensure to submit the article using the AFC method. Another manner is called WP:RA, when you go there just include the name of your grandpa (assuming he is indeed a notable figure) and someone here would create the article accordingly. I’m sorry for your loss & I’m deeply disheartened by your current predicament. Celestina007 (talk) 00:55, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Nothing will happen

Though I have followed some accounts to (eg) commons 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 21:22, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t know, maybe, maybe not, but yeah it’s probably going to be closed with a warning to them. To be honest I don’t know if it’s a natural predisposition or an affinity, id say it’s the former as I’ve been combatting UPE since 2016 even before I knew what “UPE” meant. Thus far there is no editor I called dubious who didn’t end being dubious, perhaps only on a few editors was i wrong, I remember making a report to ArbCom about an editor I suspected of being sketchy and it took two more years before they realized & this is what I had seen over two years old prior. I know dubious when I see dubious if it’s s natural talent I really don’t know, I remember sometime ago I wrote somewhere on how to spot UPE, it was so mind blowing Kudpung told me expressly to remove it less I inadvertently teach them how to BEANS, & I replied Kudpung telling them that BEANS or not they weren’t getting away with it. In the end I removed this method because of the respect I have for him, I mean he is the original anti UPE editor and wrote and created NPP thus my respect for him is more than words can explain, forgive the digression Timtrent what I’m trying to say is that it is my belief or opinion that Atibrarian isn’t genuine, I might be wrong but that is how I feel, I’m recusing myself from that discussion. Celestina007 (talk) 22:02, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Celestina007 and Timtrent: Thank you for the kind words, Celestina. Would one of you please consider running for adminship to plug the hole I left? Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:58, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Kudpung, it really is flattering to hear you say I should RFA but I think I gave TheresNoTime (One of our finest at anti spam) the reason I’m reluctant to, perhaps our friendly neighborhood anti spam editor Timtrent can change their views on adminship and RFA. Celestina007 (talk) 18:36, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I must apologise if I gave you that impression Celestina007, its most certainly not the case 😊 ~TNT (talk • she/her) 18:41, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I completely misread your message above Celestina007, I am so sorry! I thought you were suggesting that I wouldn't want you to run! ~TNT (talk • she/her) 18:59, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
TheresNoTime, I figured as much, here’s something funny, yesterday I took pain killers due to my knee injury and and I remember the doctors expressly telling me to just go to sleep immediately, I figured I’d just do some minor work on Wikipedia, I swear to you I was trying to converse with Timtrent and it seemed like rocket science to me, my brain couldn’t just coordinate properly, if you ever want to laugh please check my contribs, I think I made every spelling and grammatical error ever known! I felt so ashamed of myself this morning re-reading them😂. On a more serious note it’s a shame after almost a year the reason I couldn’t RFA then is still the same reason I can’t RFA now, someone needs to be a “sysop without the tools” in order to combat the dirty game of UPE. Celestina007 (talk) 19:11, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not going to change my own views, my friend. I find the checks and balances by my not being an admin are better for Wikipedia. Have the minor disadvantage of not having admin goggles, but that is trivial. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 20:51, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Chukwudi Onuamadike (Evans)

Last year we had some discussions on my user talk page about whether the page Chukwudi Onuamadike should be moved to a title such as Evans (kidnapper). I understand that Evans was indeed convicted of kidnapping (see [23], for example) last month. So if you want to move the page to Evans (kidnapper), I believe that would be appropriate now. If you do so, please make sure to update the lead so that it says that he is a convicted (instead of "alleged") kidnapper. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 00:11, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Metropolitan90, I do remember the conversation. I was going to decline this, because in the back of my mind, I felt like doing do so would be interpreted as doing a controversial page move but seeing it was just you who expressly wanted it to retain its current title(now previous) and now that you are asking for it to be moved, it doesn’t appear so controversial (at least to me) Alright then I shall proceed as you have suggested. Celestina007 (talk) 00:27, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Metropolitan90,  Done thanks for bringing this to my notice. Please do stop by more often. Celestina007 (talk) 00:36, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Southcoastdeaffc (19:11, 2 April 2022)

Hi , am new here what to do --Southcoastdeaffc (talk) 19:11, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Southcoastdeaffc, hello, i note you asked this question three days ago, I haven’t been available for a while now, so please when ever you ask me a question and I don’t reply that very day please go straight to the WP:TEAHOUSE and ask the question there. Alright, about your question, you see, what you want to do is do a self analysis, what brought you here? Why do you want to become an editor? What topic areas interests you? The first two questions are rhetorical and as for the third, you may or may not share with me but insofar as you have an answer to all three then navigating to the relevant topic areas and editing there wouldn’t be a problem, the idea is for you to start small, for example; correcting grammatical errors, spelling errors and easy endeavors like that. Also, please see WP:GETTINGSTARTED & WP:TUTORIAL, you should have read both before anything else. Furthermore, testing your editing skills before editing (any) live article in any capacity is a great idea. Please see WP:SANDBOX, that is basically a place to test your editing skills. Check out WP:5P too & that is pretty much how you start learning. It’s simple, please keep asking questions as much as you like until you are satisfied. Celestina007 (talk) 22:27, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Prince Julius Adewale Adelusi-Adeluyi

Hi! If you have the time/inclination, mind an eye on this? It came to me via SuggestBot and I'm not clear whether it's UPE or just someone promoting their CV. I trimmed the worst and my gut is he's notable, but it's hard to make heads or tales of. Thanks either way. Star Mississippi 20:04, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not Celestina but whewwwww lawd, that article is total garbage. Notable or not, that's some serious spam sourced to blogspot. CUPIDICAE💕 20:06, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oh and it's a copyvio. Fun. CUPIDICAE💕 20:06, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I giggled at whewwwww lawd, so much more polite than what I said when I saw it. Thanks to you,@Timtrent for flagging copyvio. I'll wield the rev del brush but wouldn't be opposed to it disappearing as a G11 as that was clear intent. Star Mississippi 20:18, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Honestly it was a g11/g12 candidate. As it stands now it's basically an unsourced resume, so I say delete it. PS: the nice words I said were not the ones I said out loud ;) CUPIDICAE💕 20:20, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Star Mississippi was mainly @Praxidicae. I just nuked a paragraph! 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 20:21, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Depressing. This gentleman seems to satisfy WP:NPOLITICIAN, but it needs stubbing more. I may have a go in a minute 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 20:26, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
but I'm sure he was such a nice altar boy!
I swear we need character limit for new articles. There are many articles that need to into great depth, but bios are so rarely in that category. Misguided new editors cram every factoid they can in, which leads to more frustration. Thanks both, and Celestina for hosting this conversation Star Mississippi 20:35, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I have reduced it, as has Praxidicae, to a stub. Regrettably the remaining references are dead links. All they have to do, all, is to assert and verify notability, then leave it alone 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 20:39, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Star Mississippi, Praxidicae, Timtrent, Sorry for the late response, of recent I have been more withdrawn than usual, alright straight to business, Star, In my honest opinion I think I agree with Praxidicae that the article could was a good candidate for G12/G11 and could have been disappeared under any or both of the aforementioned, and to answer your question Star, from my experience, article's as this are more of a CV/Resumé article than it is UPE, as it stands we have an article on mainspace that has 0 RS/ (or any source for that matter for WP:v purposes) which is just bad. An archetypical example of an article that shouldn’t be on mainspace. If Timtrent says they meet NPOL then someone can at least add a source that substantiates the veracity of the claim to the article. I believe I’m a tad bit too scatter brained (right now) to be the one to do it. Thanks Star for bringing this article to my notice, at least I have added it and the creator to my watchlist. Celestina007 (talk) 22:09, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm being pedantic. An article about something that is inherently notable is entitled to be here even with no references. I find that bizarre, but at the same time reasonable. Wikipedia is a paradox at times.
I will take no part in any deletion discussion if anyone chooses to nominate it to go. I have pruned it too hard to be seen as neutral. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 22:14, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Timtrent, I respect that, Please let me clarify that I did not imply that since it was you who stated that it met NPOL hence it should be you who provides the relevant source, no, that was more of a general comment aimed at no one. Furthermore an unsourced biography or a biographical article sourced to dead links are very much discouraged, hypothetically speaking if an article on a supposed inherently notable individual(who is still alive) were to be created, and moved to mainspace and left without sources, irrespective of NEXIST or whatever a WP:blpprod may apply. Lest I digress old friend, a biographical article must be sourced at least WP:v thinks that. However I’m really indifferent about this, having said, if it were nominated for deletion I would !vote to delete, but I respect your work ethic nonetheless and I also appreciate what you & Praxi did. Celestina007 (talk) 22:48, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, as always, for your .02 on these matters. I understand what @Timtrent is saying. We're in a moment of but vague wave at policy at AfD of late which is annoying when something should be sourced, but is allowing to fly when it's not, because vague wave and sources exist because this position is notable. But that's a rant for another time.
Likewise grateful for the work done to solve the issue, which was a mess in mainspace that was not helpful to the reader. Star Mississippi 01:28, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I never said I approved of the weird "notable items that are not sourced may have articles" concept, and Celestina, I truly never thought you suggested I ought to find a source. I imagine someone will send it for deletion at some point. I approve of that because it will allow the community to decide. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 07:09, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Star Mississippi, Timtrent, indeed you both are apt. Allow me use this opportunity to once again thank you for attending to Nigeria related articles that appear disingenuous, I really do appreciate the vigilance, and do not take it for granted, the creation of dubious looking articles from the Nigerian space and editors engaging in less than ethical practices have been appropriately addressed and dealt with accordingly due to hard working editors like yourselves, MER-C, Praxidicae, DGG, TheresNoTime, Blablubbs, Sdrqaz, Dan ardnt, Rosguill, TheAafi, there are a lot more people that I’m not remembering right now, the truth is if it was I who did the (initial shouting) by (Pointing out a possible Nigerian organized syndicate engaging in a systematic creation of dubious Nigeria related articles & engaging in less than ethical practices such as sockpuppetry), it was via the help of you individuals that my dream of obliterating any form of UPE practices in Nigeria is gradually becoming a reality and at large our collective dream of totally obliterating unethical practices not just in Nigeria related articles alone but from the entirety of the English Wikipedia, Truly to have served in this capacity with you lot has been my greatest achievement. Thank you, we are eliminating this sort of unethical editing, there is still work to be done but we are indeed seeing exponential progress. Celestina007 (talk) 13:45, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • There's an exception to "an article about something that is inherently notable is entitled to be here even with no references. I find that bizarre, but at the same time reasonable. Wikipedia is a paradox at times." -- this is a BLP, and needs a RS. But it does list two; however, at least for me, neither of them work.
But there's another exception--we don't accept spam for any subject, and no matter how notable; if it fails NOT ADVERTISING, it will be removed unless someone fixes it. The question then, faced with the original, is whether it is worth fixing. Beyond a certain amount of spam, I'll delete even in my favorite field, notable professors, unless they are actually famous. As a politician, he may qualify as notable, but certainly not as famous. There is of course no rule requiring any of us to fix an article, or decide not to fix an article. I've fixed many and had others tell me I shouldn't have bothered, and I've seen many fixed where I would have said the same. It might be different if we had time to work on them all. DGG ( talk ) 23:19, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
DGG, you said it best and indeed have summarized accurately the whole situation better than I could ever attempt to. Celestina007 (talk) 13:26, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Join Us At Anti UPE/Spam"

I'm intrigued by your userpage piece on anti UPE. I see the group on meta that you suggest editors could join as being a cross-wiki effort that requires involvement in sister projects. Is that correct? Do you think there should be an en.wiki specific home for anti-spam such as a wikiproject? Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 14:11, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I made a typo. I meant anti-UPE. You've written some good advice on your user page but I think it would benefit a wider audience on a WP: page as an essay or guidance in a wikiproject. I've reported UPE to paid-en-wp@wikipedia.org but it is only accessible to checkusers and isn't read that often. I've reported it at COIN a few times before, but COIN seems powerless to do much unless an admin passes by who is interested in UPE. Maybe if there was a project, or even a category it would be easier to identify "Administrators willing to investigate UPE". Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 15:47, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • Curb Safe Charmer, you raise a valid point, and i understand you perfectly when you say COIN is powerless except an admin passes by & yes more often than Bbb23 seems to be the only one taking action AFAIK in that aspect. I also understand you when you say sometimes sending a mail to the relevant parties isn’t always effective, I understand what you are saying first hand. You are also correct when you say a Wikiproject for UPE May be helpful you are indeed apt but I honestly do not even have the mental energy to start to develop such at the moment, i am mentally fatigued to be honest. Furthermore you are also apt about making my views to be more visible to the community I have written some essays and I have some about three essays saved and drafted on my electronic device but unfortunately I do not believe i have the mental will to create them into proper essays at the moment, Kudpung has indeed suggested this very same ideas you are suggesting. You have raised very salient points but I really don’t have any mental energy for much, combining my day job plus Wikipedia of recent hasn’t been easy for me thus the much I can do like this write ups on my UP, I try to do so, you are really making a lot of sense as MER-C has literally been the only admin who is an ARV for UPE, and your ideas can indeed reduce their workload, UPE isn’t an enjoyable place to work as it is mentally draining, sometime in the past I spoke to MER-C and he told me he hasn’t the energy or time to attend to UPE matters and I totally understood what they meant at that point in time, you have made great points but tbh I have grown a little weary, this is ephemeral but as of now I am mentally tired, that is the reason I appreciate Praxidicae, Timtrent & DGG, they do not tire in their bid to tackle spam/upe. Lastly the part where you mention “Administrators willing to investigate UPE” that would be a great idea if administrators aren’t being stifled or pilloried, I feel bad for sysops at the moment, and I totally understand why many aren’t interested in UPE which is as controversial as they come, judging from antecedent, almost every admin who attempted to tackle UPE almost ended up de-sysoped & some outrightly de-sysoped, my thinking is an idea Bradv, Beeblebrox and DGG gave me last year which is basically taking down all articles from possible dubious editors and in time this would frustrate them out of business, so far so good. Once again thank you for the bright ideas. Celestina007 (talk) 16:38, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Please take care of yourself and your mental health, Wikipedia will still be there when you have your energy back. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 21:01, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Curb Safe Charmer, that’s so kind of you, it’s not so much that querying or carrying out my duties is a problem in-fact as we speak I’m addressing two articles I believe may be disingenuous this & this what I was trying to say is I don’t have the will power for anything “big” right now but it doesn’t incapacitate not impede me from executing minor anti spam/UPE/COI work on mainspace, you know, just like I am handling the aforementioned sketchy looking articles. Celestina007 (talk) 21:48, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Celestina007 , I unfortunately have to say that I am indeed getting tired--and bored-- in my work to tackle spam. This is not what I became an admin to do; I became a admin to rescue articles that had been overlooked or inadequately written, and the admin function I expected to use the most was viewdeleted sand undelete. But I now delete about 1000 pages a year, and undelete only about 400--not counting the thousands of pages a year I look at, but delete by letting G13 remove them. I have been gradually restricting the subject range I will even look at--I now just do professors plus the few on medieval or ancient history. But even so I am increasingly falling behind. In an effort to keep the work to what I can handle, I no longer try to fix the questionable - if it's basically good enough I will pass the Draft and hope they get fixed at afd; if they need significant work, I will ignore them and let them get deleted until someday someone will be prepared to do it properly. One exception: If theres a paragraph or two of junk, i will remove it, to givei t a better chance. Celestina007, our hope to continue is in new people. The current ones likeme and even you can keepat it forever. DGG ( talk ) 07:44, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      • DGG, I love that you mention this, we old heads are getting fatigued from combating spam, although mine is ephemeral and I can never be permanently tired of fighting spam as it utterly disgusts, motivates and reenergizes me, however our hope is in the newer editors, we are now at an impasse as I am yet to see a new generation editor with a knack for anti spam, furthermore this weakness you feel isn’t from combatting UPE alone (although combatting UPE is very stressful) but I believe it is editing in general, please read this it just goes to show how editing in general can tire one out. Celestina007 (talk) 15:07, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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19:43, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Question from Domfarolino (02:53, 12 April 2022)

I just made my first edit. Does it not need to be reviewed? --Domfarolino (talk) 02:54, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Domfarolino, hello there, not quite, your first edit doesn’t necessarily need to be reviewed by anyone, however, reading a few of our policies and guidelines and practicing your edits in your own WP:SANDBOX are quite helpful as a prerequisite for editing any article already on mainspace. Celestina007 (talk) 18:59, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from FilmFanMG (08:07, 12 April 2022)

I understand I can edit Wikipedia pages but can I create one because there isn’t some that I think are important --FilmFanMG (talk) 08:07, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • FilmFanMG, hello and welcome, please it would benefit you more to start slowly and begin to learn the policies and guidelines of this community prior thinking of article creation, contrary to conventional belief, article creations aren’t hard but aren’t easy either. Celestina007 (talk) 19:10, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from SinhaAarush (12:03, 12 April 2022)

Hello, (((Looking at our logs, it seems your IP address is either shared or part of a large range that has been blocked to prevent an abusive user from vandalizing our site. Unfortunately, while this adequately protects our site, it does affect a large number of innocent users. You can, however, still edit while logged in with an account. I'm assuming you don't have one already, so you can request one at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Request_an_account To speed this up, it's a good idea to check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth to make sure that the username you want is not already taken. Apologies for the inconvenience this causes, but I assure you large blocks like this are a last resort.)))

The above statement was given by https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Deepfriedokra

I had a conversation with the previous owner of this mobile. I think he used multiple accounts and gave unsourced content.

I just want a protection for using the presently blocked IP address. As he told me his account want searched using IP address. I am a editing addict so I need protection. I am not responsible for the works of the previous owner. I will violate any Wikipedia Rules as I am a old editor. --SinhaAarush (talk) 12:04, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

SinhaAarush, hello and welcome, sadly, I don’t believe I can be of any help as unfortunately I can’t make heads or tails of what actually it is you are trying to say, courtesy ping to Deepfriedokra, in case they want to comment on anything. Celestina007 (talk) 19:07, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@SinhaAarush: Oh, my. You've opened a can of worms saying you know the previous owner of the device you are using. That raises the question of how intertwined to two of you are. (Let's not go there.) Did you create this account or did the nice folks at account creation? If the latter, then you should be fine. If the former, the question is whether your editing convinces the Community that there is some connection that needs looking into. If not, ISP's reassign IP's fairly often. At one point, the IP my phone was using was blocked. Not that I can ever use the thing to edit. I'm gonna assume good faith and not worry about those things and tell you not to worry either. (Don't state the IP. That's a private matter, and we do not link IP's to accounts openly.) --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:32, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You @Deepfriedokra SinhaAarush (talk) 06:08, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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HandsomeBoy, Replied, I also discuss about occultism there 😂. Celestina007 (talk) 22:31, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

awb

Hi friend! I think some of your AWB settings may be a little off, as I saw you tagged some disambig pages as stubs and orphans. The pages in question are K94, K96, and K99. Curbon7 (talk) 03:53, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Curbon7yes indeed, sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused & yeah i do agree you are indeed Twitter famous. Celestina007 (talk) 19:05, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Expose Facts (09:58, 15 April 2022)

Hi,

I want to know what can I do? If I saw a Wikipedia user altering information on a page & the altered information is fake and not real. How do I report such user? How to prevent vandalism from such users? --Expose Facts (talk) 09:58, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Expose Facts, you report vandalism at WP:AIV after you must have warned the editor in question. Celestina007 (talk) 10:02, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Blocks

How do I avoid getting blocked That guy in the corner of the room (talk) 18:25, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Simply stop making stupid, pointless, disruptive edits. Theroadislong (talk) 18:31, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Like what That guy in the corner of the room (talk) 18:49, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Like your edits to this talk page. CUPIDICAE💕 18:53, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
💀💀💀💀💀 That guy in the corner of the room (talk) 22:58, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I'm a week early. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:38, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ad Orientem, wowwwww! Celestina007 (talk) 19:08, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Even handed handed even

RE: your query about GenoV84's false assertion that Editors aren't allowed to remove sourced informations with references from the encyclopedia — WP:DUE and WP:ONUS are, in fact, largely intended to mitigate that flawed notion. As an aside, Islamic scholars (or any other religious scholars) are still scholars in the field of religion and theology. Mine or yours or GenoV84 (whoever)'s view as to the value of that scholarship notwithstanding. It is consensus which determines that. Consensus in the wider scholarship as well as project-wide, and wherein hopefully, the two align. El_C 19:47, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

El_C, E, I do understand you and like i mentioned to them I didn’t even bother looking into why they were at ANI, I see you have served them a two week time out, well that’s too bad for them, but their edit summary caught my interest as I did see it word for word somewhere in 2016 and since then never saw it again, let me correct something, GenoV84 (they aren’t pinged) wasn’t being outrightly dishonest but more misrepresenting information as the latter part of that statement reads "if the information is from a biased source" or something along those lines, Infact, the reason I sought the source of the information was because I knew dishonest editors were going to invariably use that as an excuse to write garbage on probably paid jobs but since I found the latter part of that statement I now know in entirety what that statement meant in the relevant context, thus why I refer to their actions as a misrepresentation or misinterpreting information, Look I’m in agreement with you, heck! Even WP:Unreliable source dispels such notion my goal was to find the source of the statement, they did show me the source of it and I’m appreciative of them for that and that’s that for that. I’d take a closer look into their ANI and see what all that noise was for. Celestina007 (talk) 20:24, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I'm not following a lot of that. But, though I said that their misrepresentation of policy is concerning, that wasn't the main reason for the block. Anyway, just trying to answer your question by explaining why that isn't a thing, why it wouldn't be workable. El_C 20:49, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
El_C, and I do firmly agree with you that indeed it isn’t a thing & such a notion is absolute rubbish. Celestina007 (talk) 20:56, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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RE: Badri Lal Yadav

Just letting you know I moved this article you draftified back to mainspace, as the issues that led to the draftification (i.e. broken formatting) were fixed, and it is notable. Curbon7 (talk) 00:29, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Good one. I don’t think anyone mentioned anything about notability, ironically the mere act of drafitication means the reviewer believes the article can be mainspace worthy in the future, if certain things are addressed so yeah like I said good one. Anything else? Celestina007 (talk) 01:17, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Uploading Images to Wikipiedia

Hi Celestina007 I have been in wikipedia for near to 1o months. I have got majority ideas on editing and still working on my sandbox to improve. The only problem I'm facing is uploading images. I basically do the articles on Malayalam movies. I wish to upload the images that are shared by the crew members or production house official social media pages. Can you please guide me in this? Uploading images from social media. I have gone through many articles and I can't understand it fully.Paavamjinn (talk) 17:44, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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this tamzin RfA

The Whatever, high atop The Thing... let it rest :) but then, what shall I joke about? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 09:20, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

it seems you're on an unexpected wikibreak; i hope you're all right, and back soon! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 03:40, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Theleekycauldron, You are so sweet, Yes indeed, it was impromptu, I lost a family member so I travelled to U.S, Utah specifically to pay my last respects. Celestina007 (talk) 12:10, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2022-17

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22:54, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Question from Bikash patel office on Wikipedia:User access levels (15:11, 26 April 2022)

Hi how are you dear friend --Bikash patel office (talk) 15:11, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please look at Peter Obi

Tag team probable vandalism: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peter_Obi&action=history 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 22:08, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Seems like it has been taken care of. Reading Beans Talk to the Beans? 05:13, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Some flowers for you, dear

Pink azaleas for Celestina

Hello, I've missed seeing you around the past week and am wondering how you are doing. Here are some very happy and healthy pink azaleas for you from my tiny urban garden. Netherzone (talk) 22:54, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RE: MAKAYLA MALAKA

Hello Celestina,

Trust you are well.

Do you mind checking my draft work on Makayla Malaka as I have made some changes in the referencing as you advised earlier. Thank you.

N.B: I am yet to submit the article.Karissa 247 (talk) 12:22, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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