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Arbitration

I edited Abraham Lincoln and slavery and another editor undid my edit. I explained on his Talk page the reason for my edit; he has not explained his objection to it. I know not to turn this into an editing war, so would someone explain the arbitration procedure, please. For details, look at User talk:Alanscottwalker, # 82, "Booth's comment." Maurice Magnus (talk) 17:49, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again @Maurice Magnus. I think you're looking for Dispute resolution procedures. However, there's generally a prerequisite of discussion on the article talk page; I'm not sure whether a dialogue between just the two of you on their talk page will meet the requirements. You can always try, though. The best avenue here might be WP:3O. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 18:04, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Arbitration explicitly does not handle content disputes. You want to take it to 3O or MedCab next. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 19:24, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Maurice Magnus, the proper place to discuss this content dispute is Talk:Abraham Lincoln and slavery, which you have not yet done. Taking the dispute anywhere else will be declined unless you discuss it thoroughly at the article talk page. That always comes first. This dispute is not appropriate for ArbCom. Cullen328 (talk) 03:29, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please see my comment titled "Quoting versus Paraphrasing" at Talk:Abraham Lincoln and slavery. Maurice Magnus (talk) 13:14, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Getting an article published

I'm having trouble finding the right sources to get an article published. It's a series of novels from 2013 and the issue is that it was published independently through an author with very little internet presence. The book did have a sizable impact on fandom culture and a lot of associated books do have pages. The series is All for the Game By Nora Sakavic. Nv1213 (talk) 18:14, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Nv1213, welcome to the Teahouse. It's entirely believable that the novels have popularity in online communities. However, until independent, reliable published sources cover the series in depth, notability will not have been achieved. If there are no reliable sources, then it could be WP:TOOSOON for a Wikipedia article. Fandom coverage is user-generated and therefore not considered reliable. If, however, the Fandom situation gets coverage in reliable sources, notability could result. Quisqualis (talk) 19:52, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Have you come across this Publisher's Weekly article yet? McCARTNEY, J. (2016). The Game Changer. Publishers Weekly, 263(43), 41. -- asilvering (talk) 02:41, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pardon me for this question, but is Publishers' Weekly a publisher? Club On a Sub 20 (talk) 15:51, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's a journal - see Publishers Weekly. -- asilvering (talk) 15:58, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Publishers Weekly is a trade publication for the book industry. It publishes about 9000 book reviews each year. The reviews are short, averaging about 200 to 250 words, and the reviwers are paid as little as $25.00. In my opinion, such a review contributes very little toward notability. Cullen328 (talk) 03:40, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I did have that article as a reference when it was rejected. Nv1213 (talk) 04:37, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you'll need more than just that - at least one other, usually more. -- asilvering (talk) 05:46, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Random Promotion rather than historical fact?

The article on the Ivoryton Playhouse, a National Register site in Connecticut, has a lot of what I'd consider extraneous marketing detail (e.g. what times and days are the present management's children's show performed). I do not want to get into a dispute with the theatre's current management. Is there a more neutral edit could be made? Blue Water (talk) 22:07, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Example: "its productions were an artistic success from the start", unreferenced. Blue Water, please feel free to prune this thing ruthlessly. Don't refrain from doing so merely in an attempt to spare anybody's feelings. -- Hoary (talk) 01:13, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have pruned it ruthlessly and moved it to be an article about the building rather than the theater it contains. ~Anachronist (talk) 17:02, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Anachronist I strongly disagree with your renaming an article that has existed as Ivoryton Playhouse since 2007, and is far better known as a well-known theater than as a historic building. I recommend you revert your name change and restore content about the theater, albeit without the laudatory phrases. David notMD (talk) 20:24, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your objection is noted. I strongly disagree with you. I have moved this discussion to Talk:Comstock-Cheney Hall. ~Anachronist (talk) 02:21, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Distinguishing blue and black text

On my Desktop PC at least blue (linked) and black (plain) text are hard to distinguish. I am forced to squint.

How can these colours be made more distinctive? ----MountVic127 (talk) 09:09, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You can edit Special:MyPage/common.css to change the style. For example, to turn blue links yellow, you could enter:
```
a {
  color: purple;
}
<!--
```
, and similarly for other colours. You can also use RGB codes, for example #00ff00 for green. ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 09:17, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

-->

Thanks for your help. :-)

Green for links still has poor contrast compared to black.

Works with bolded black such as Distinguishing blue and black text if same as file name but not file sections.

Orange is already used for unresolved disambigs such as WTO (disambiguation) . . . another Teahouse person helped me with this.

Yellow over white has no contrast.

will try brown or purple.

What are all the named colours, such as lightgreen? ----MountVic127 (talk) 18:50, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is a list at Web colors § extended colors. You can also copy the hex values from this table and tweak them; the first two characters are the red part, the secon two the green, and the last are blue. They're hexadecimal, so 0 is the lowest and F the highest proportion. ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 18:52, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again. I think that green/black contrast if fair enough and I will get used to it in time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MountVic127 (talk • contribs) 19:29, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

MountVic127, the standard (for now) Vector 2010 skin has a fairly dark blue for links. If you're using that, you could try Vector 2022 which I has a lighter shade. You can change your skin at Preferences – Appearance. On the other hand, if the lighter blue doesn't help, just stick with the custom green. You could also consider underlining links rather than relying on color alone. Could be helpful, could be distracting – Wikipedia articles often have a lot of links, so it's a balancing act to make them “prominent enough but not too prominent”. Have you encountered many other sites where the links are difficult to distinguish? ⁓ Pelagic ( messages ) 06:20, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I HAVE CHANGED BLUE TO green which is an improvement. ----MountVic127 (talk) 09:56, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Druware article

Hi helpful friends! I've been lazily but lovingly working on an article about Druware, a brand of cookware that was wildly popular (at least in New England) in the middle of the 20th century. I'm still working on dredging up additional sources to meet the bar of notability, but I'm wondering how to manage one aspect. There's a very active world of collecting midcentury enameled cookware, and Druware specifically. Unfortunately, Le_Creuset, Cousances, and Descoware get all the glory in Wikipedia, despite a paucity of high-quality references in their articles. (Not sure how those snuck into article space, but I'll try to suppress my jealousy for now.)

There are zillions of Pinterest boards, and hundreds of pieces of this cookware for sale at high prices at any given time on auction sites such as eBay. I'd think that this modern, observable activity could help support notability (some day, someone will look back on those auction pages and use them as sources to prove the popularity of the collection trade today)...but I'm not sure quite how to manage referencing the observable popularity that currently exists. Citing eBay search URLs doesn't seem particularly strong as evidence, due to their ephemeral nature. Is this activity at all relevant now, or shall we have to wait for the patina of history to give it gravitas? Thanks for any advice you might have. Kerri9494 (talk) 14:17, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Kerri9494, welcome to the Teahouse. Activity/popularity/sales are only tangentially relevant to notability. Sometimes those things generate coverage in reliable sources which we can then cite, and which might contribute to notability, but not always.

As for how those other articles got into mainspace - it was 2005, 2008, and 2007. I've heard those called the wild west days of Wikipedia. ;) 199.208.172.35 (talk) 14:26, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

WP:WHATABOUT applies to draft reviews as well as for deletion discussions. Just because you create something that has the same level of sourcing as an established article, doesn't mean it will pass the notability tests. Those other articles may fail if put to the test. And since you've pointed them out, I'm going to give them a look to see if they shouldn't be examined by the community at WP:AFD. Thanks! - UtherSRG (talk) 14:46, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know about Druware, but all the others are very well known. I will add the sources needed this weekend to blunt UtherSRG's valiant but entirely gratuitous sniping expedition in wanting to have them deleted. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 15:09, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I actually don't want them to be deleted. I want the sources found and added as they should have been years ago. One of them was tagged 11 years ago, one in 2017, and one never was, though definitely should have been. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:41, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I've added two for descoware for a start; will look for the others, including druware. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 16:41, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@UtherSRG I appreciate your point, but I'd like to clarify that I'm not asserting whataboutism to support a notability claim, I'm seeking advice on whether or not the current popularity of collecting Druware is relevant to a notability claim, and if so, what's the best way to include that information. I'll keep plugging along and do my best, and would still appreciate any advice you might have on that question. If the article doesn't reach notability, it doesn't reach notability. Thanks. Kerri9494 (talk) 15:27, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As it says in the draft's submission header, the sources must be in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject), reliable, secondary, and independent of the subject. Read the info in those links to help guide you to what's needed. (And I'd say that Not sure how those snuck into article space sounds a bit of whataboutism to me.) - UtherSRG (talk) 15:39, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@UtherSRG My apologies. I expected my light-hearted orthogonal comment about the challenge of fairness in such an enormous corpus as Wikipedia would be met with similar levity in a "friendly place" designed to "get help", not find me chastised for whataboutism. Consider me appropriately admonished.

After having read the guidelines you've linked, I am still interested in some specific guidance regarding the issue at hand (modulo the helpful point about popularity being tangential to notability from @199.208.172.35) -- the role of popularity in relation to notability. It's pointed out in the discussion of notability that popularity "may enhance the acceptability of a subject" if it meets other notability guidelines (which I shall continue to work on).

While ephemeral auction links don't seem to be specifically addressed in any of those topics, to someone such as myself -- who is admittedly not as experienced with Wikipedia's bar for sources -- this information does seem to be somehow relevant. An eBay link with 229 listings (and perhaps more importantly, a consistent volume of hundreds of such listings at any given time, over the span of decades) doesn't seem like a passing mention; it seems reliable as it's a source from a decades-old company (considering the admittedly narrow but relevant Wikipedia:VENDOR use case for Wikipedia:Verify); it's secondary and independent in that eBay has no primary relationship to Druware, but yet clearly communicates -- simply by the persistent existence of its copious listings -- that there is brisk interest in the subject.

But on the other hand, it's an ephemeral eBay link. Which seems...weird as a source. But relevant. But still weird. I suppose it's possible that I'm the only who feels a bit of cognitive dissonance here, but I've seen weirder things cited in other indices, abstracts, and fact books. I'm just not sure how one would treat such a consistent but ephemeral source. Kerri9494 (talk) 16:42, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Kerri9494, a link to an eBay listing - or to hundreds of eBay listing - is very rarely going to be useful as a source. Not only are we in WP:VENDOR territory, but also WP:SELFPUB, not to mention original research if you're trying to use them as evidence of either popularity or notability. I think your time and energy would be best spent looking for better sources. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 17:00, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, and consider me equally admonished for harshness in a friendly pub. Fowler&fowler is working on getting better references for the other articles. You can take a look at what they are finding and see if you can find similar references for Druware. You could also try building up a Google search by starting with "Druware" and then slowly applying various -website-name minuses to narrow in on possible helpful references. UtherSRG (talk) 17:28, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly, after my first post to this friendly pub resulting in three reasonable articles being marked for deletion, requiring editors to scramble to improve them within seven days or risk them being removed from article space, I should probably go back into hibernation. Kerri9494 (talk) 14:00, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Kerri9494: I hope you don't. That wasn't on you. Creating new articles is the hardest part of Wikipedia. Your desire to create the Druware article is commendable. We failed you by failing to ensure similar articles were up to snuff so that you'd have an easier time seeing what your goal should look like. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:22, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling errors: how does one quickly, efficiently correct them?

I'm new and I'm a linguist and careful speller - in UK and US English (I see various articles use one or the other - a mix). However, the modest contribution I can offer is - for the time being - limited to pointing to spelling errors, or at least spellings that strike me as erroneous. For instance, on the page The Birth of a Nation, there is an illustration of a battle scene from the film in question, describing the action as "leaded" by a certain historical character. This struck me as odd, as "leaded" is a description of a process for enhancing fuel combustibility and not used in relation to the verb "to lead" (i.e. take a lead, form the leadership of), whose past participle is generally taken to be "led". Is there is simple path to correcting such errors, since the learning curve that appears to be needed to make even that small contribution strikes me as "steeped", if you'll pardon the irony? Jeepvee (talk) 02:08, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Just make them, and note in the edit comment that you are correct a spelling issue. Note that changing an article from one English variety to another is not allowed, though if the article has a mix and you are trying to adjust it to one or the other, announcing that on the talk page before you start can be helpful. - UtherSRG (talk) 02:29, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

hi @Jeepvee and welcome to the teahouse! Be bold and don't worry if you make a mistake! it's very simple to undo these mistakes by yourself or others, and we give a bit of space and time for new editors to understand and get accustomed to the many policies we have since it shouldn't really be expected one would be able to read and understand them, so if one ever makes a mistake, we'd rather help them understand what they're doing wrong and how they can make it right. happy editing! 💜 melecie talk - 02:41, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merci! No, it would indeed be disingenuous to alter articles from one spelling convention to another simply for convention's sake. However, one does sometimes need to keep the dictionary to hand for more esoteric usages of language which remain confined to a particular region of the globe. In such cases, I might advocate in the case of, say, a reference to a "trunk" to add as a note: "(UK-EN: "boot")" (i.e. of a motor car) where confusion might otherwise reign. I shall boldly go where many have gone before ... Jeepvee (talk) 03:01, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you mean on a technical level, just hit "edit source" on the section the typo is in, fix it, preview/see changes to confirm you didn't make any inadvertent changes, type up an edit summary, and hit publish. You may also find the Wikipedia:Typo Team project a good read for guidelines about terms of which sorts of typos should be corrected (or not), their thoughts on ENGVAR, how to find typoes, and suggestions for edit summaries. Hope to see you around. Skynxnex (talk) 02:42, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks for your guidance! Which of "typos" and "typoes" is correct I shall leave to one side for the moment :-) Jeepvee (talk) 02:52, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Jeepvee, on Wikipedia, we spell it "typos", from what I have seen. If there is a commonly-misspelled word, feel free to use the Search box on any page here to find pages with that particular "word". Also, when other editors misspell or typo anything on a discussion page, avoid correcting it at all costs! It's against the rules, for a variety of reasons. The Typo Team may have other tips and tricks up their sleeve.--Quisqualis (talk) 04:33, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hence the ":-)" Jeepvee (talk) 04:34, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, I understood @Jeepvee's intent (and I was inconsistent in my spelling) but I think @Quisqualis's advice is useful going forward, even if it's tempting during meta-discussions. :) (Apologies if excessive pings.) Skynxnex (talk) 05:13, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jeepvee The same way you search for things on any website on the internet by pressing and holding CTRL then pressing F

It usually brings up the Wikipedia search box automatically although it's not working for me tonight for some reason (so it might depend on what browser or computer you're using).

However you can get to the search box manually by pressing the three horizontal lines button (which is to the left of the pencil edit button), then pressing find and replace button, then type the word you want to replace in the top box, and then type the word that you want to replace it with in the bottom box, then press Done. Danstarr69 (talk) 22:37, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You can also take a look at WP:COPYEDIT for advice on simple copy editing (which includes correcting things like spelling, grammar, and punctuation). Check out the Guild of Copy Editors as well, since there is no shortage of this kind of work! WPscatter ^t/_c 04:37, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

i am trying to write an article about myself but whenever i complete it, it gets deleted i dont know i have been trying since yesterday please help me resolve this issue or it will be better if you can correct me

Account creation failing Bayuski (talk) 04:47, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Are you trying to create an account, or are you trying to write an article? You appear to be logged in to an account right now, are you trying to create a new one? WPscatter ^t/_c 04:58, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes i am trying to write about myself and achievements. i already created an account and i am a new user Bayuski (talk) 05:01, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's very unlikely that an article about yourself will be accepted. Wikipedia subjects must meet a threshold of notability, and on top of that it's very difficult to maintain a neutral point of view when writing about yourself. If you believe you are notable enough for an article you may request one be written, but please review the notability guidelines before doing so. WPscatter ^t/_c 05:05, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You started by trying to create an article about yourself at your User page, which is the wrong place, hence deleted. See WP:YFA for how to create and then submit a draft. That said, unless you strongly believe that you meet the notability guidelines, you will fail. David notMD (talk) 10:09, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You may want to read Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not and Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. If an article about you is ever published on Wikipedia that article won't belong to you, and anyone who finds a reliable reference about you can add information to it, even if the edit contains something you don't want to be included. Are you certain that having an encyclopedia article about yourself is something you really want? Best wishes. Karenthewriter (talk) 22:50, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I would pay attention to what has been said to you by the previous editors. There have been many instances of people basically writing about themselves only to have it bite them on the ass later on. See Charlene McMann for one. Established notability and did something monumentally stupid later on. Subject and various sockpuppets have been trying in vain to scrub the page for years now. Regards, Aloha27 talk 23:40, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Links

I was pressing the random article button (more times than I want to admit) and I came across an article. There was a template saying that it needed more links to integrate into Wikipedia and looked through the article it appears to have enough articles and I am not quite sure if I can remove the template. The article is Lob Bomb. Wikiwow is just W0W!! (talk) 05:03, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I meant enough links. Sorry Wikiwow is just W0W!! (talk) 05:04, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiwow1102,

Removed. Next time, I invite you to be bold. — ^Clyde!_Franklin! 06:16, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

About my autoconfirmed

My account didn't become autoconfirmed even after having more than 150 edits and my account is 4 days old can any one explain me about this Why is my account not confirmed? Jisshu (talk) 05:14, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your account isn't yet 4 days old. It won't be until 08:21 2022/11/05 (UTC). —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 05:16, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jisshu, it takes 96 full hours. Is there a reason why you are in a hurry to become autoconfirmed? Cullen328 (talk) 05:48, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I see that you created MC STAN directly, without going through AfC. Be aware that Draft:MC Stan, by different editors, has been Declined several times, and earlier versions Speedy deleted. It is possible that your version does not meet the critera for notability for musicians, and is at risk for AfD. Your other draft (Draft:Emiway Bantai (rapper)) has been rejected. I recommend that for any other articles you intend to create, you go through the AfC process. David notMD (talk) 10:35, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your effort now at Draft:MC STAN. David notMD (talk) 15:27, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Creating Article Page

To whom it may concern,

Hello, how can we create some articles on wikipedia. We'd started by creating one authors socialist biography which is not publish yet. We're new to wiki so can you guide us to contribute some informations realated. How much time its take to confirm our account?

thankyou. Nepaliabhilekh (talk) 05:38, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nepaliabhilekh, you already have an account. It's the username "Nepaliabhilekh". You say "we". A username may only be used by one person. A second, third or other person may not use "Nepaliabhilekh" but may instead create, and edit as, a different username. Wikipedia does not want socialist biographies, or conservative biographies. It wants reliably sourced, neutral biographies of notable people (who of course may be, or may have been, socialist or conservative or apolitical). If you're thinking of submitting Draft:Aashish Jung as an article, please do not do so until you have done much more work on it. Currently, its very first paragraph -- Subject's complete name (birthdate – death) can be a lead-in to the subject's popular name. Describe the subject's nationality and profession(s) in which the subject is most notable. Provide a description of the subject's major contributions in the immediately relevant field(s) of notable expertise. -- is enough to disqualify it, and it has additional problems. -- Hoary (talk) 06:20, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@nepaliabhilekh:

Hello, how can we create some articles on wikipedia. We'd started by creating one authors socialist biography which is not publish yet.
is this about Draft:Aashish Jung/User:Nepaliabhilekh/sandbox/Template:Aashish Jung (आशिष जंग)? please stick to improving one version, preferably the one with "draft:", and don't do it on the page with "template:". i have nominated the template for deletion.

the article will absolutely not be accepted, as it is highly malformed. it tries to use the template you created (don't do that) and has a lot of spelling and grammatical errors. the lead is just the default text too.
We're new to wiki so can you guide us to contribute some informations realated.
read up on help:your first article.
How much time its take to confirm our account?
to gain the autoconfirmed right, you need to have made at least 10 edits and your account must be at least 4 days old.

lettherebedarklight〔晚安おやすみ〕ping me when replying 06:23, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A) Please see Wikipedia:FIRST.

B) Please see Wikipedia:BIO, Wikipedia:NPOV and Wikipedia:VERIFY.

C) For your account to be autoconfirmed, your account needs to be atleast 4 days old, and it needs to have atleast 10 edits. ██ Dentsinhere43 is a new Wikipedian. 06:28, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Where to report vandalism?

Hi, A IP user did vandalism here [1], by deleting properly sourced paragraph. Due to many edits inbetween I'm not able to undo it. Someone her do undo that edit and stop that IP form further Vandalism.Rock Stone Gold Castle (talk) 09:46, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, @Rock Stone Gold Castle! Welcome to the Teahouse. The place to report vandalism would be at WP:AIV. ‍ ‍ Your Power 🐍 ‍ ‍ ^{💬 "What did I tell you?"}
_{📝 "Don't get complacent..."} 09:49, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Your Power, be careful when answering questions here to investigate and make sure the answer you're giving is the right one. What is called vandalism here is certainly not (though it does remove a valid citation, it seems like a good faith edit), and even if it was, AIV should only be used for repeated, persistent vandalism, ignoring at least 4 warnings beforehand. Pointing new and frustrated users there is only going to waste the admins' time. WPscatter ^t/_c 17:55, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Wpscatter: Oh, well, I messed up there ... my bad for not checking the linked diff any further 😓 I was under the assumption that the deleting was being repeated. Anyway. Now while the editor could have indicated why the paragraph was removed in the first place, I do agree that calling it vandalism at first glance is at best poor judgment

And ftr, the four-warnings guideline is not always a requirement especially with very egregious vandalism. Some folks skip straight to level 3 or 4 warnings, or go directly towards requesting a block. ‍ ‍ Your Power 🐍 ‍ ‍ ^{💬 "What did I tell you?"}
_{📝 "Don't get complacent..."} 23:18, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Your Power:, I did not understand how to report there. Atleast two IP user : 122.162.146.102 did this [ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1120119991] vandalism many times. He writes his name in article. He should be blocked for editing, his name possibly is Digvijay Yadav, that's why he is writing it. Anathor IP is this - 49.37.241.79, He removed match-fixing done by Mohammad Azharuddin here [ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1120040896]]. I suggest to block these two IP users, to protect article from vandalism.Rock Stone Gold Castle (talk) 10:03, 5 November 2022 (UTC) @Hoary:, Hi, can you solve this matter?Rock Stone Gold Castle (talk) 10:15, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rock Stone Gold Castle, what you report is not vandalism, and should not be reported as vandalism. On Wikipedia, vandalism is used to mean "editing (or other behavior) deliberately intended to obstruct or defeat the project's purpose". When someone expresses an opinion you disagree with, it is not vandalism. You should discuss the issue on the article's talk page. Maproom (talk) 11:52, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rock Stone Gold Castle, I second what Maproom has written. Though you've already rather messed things up on the article's talk page with your comment "IP did vandalism". Please rethink what you have written there. You should not remove it, but you might consider striking it through. (~~Like this.~~). -- Hoary (talk) 12:22, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Hoary: But the IP deleted large of amount of content without discussing on talk page, he didn't written a single word, why he did it. I just noticed in history some fishy thing, so tried to put infront of other editors. If removing reliable sourced data without discussing is appropriate? But what about other IP, he is adding his name as Board of Control for Cricket in India's CEO, often? @Arjayay:, @Wjemather: many times reverted his edits, earlier called it Vandalism [[2]]. (talk) 14:22, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

1929 Major League Baseball season

Hello and good day. Go to following article above. Go to Statistical Leaders infobox. How do I adjust National League header so it runs straight across like American League header on left? Please advise, cant figure out how to fix this. Thanks for your help. Have a good day.``` Theairportman33531 (talk) 12:28, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Theairportman33531: done. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 12:47, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It still wraps for me if I zoom a little. I see no good reason for that table to force a specific width so I have removed it.[3] PrimeHunter (talk) 23:45, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please remove all inappropriate external links?

First artcile. Looks like I picked the wrong category for submission - musician. But, I finally hit an editor with some specific advice which I really appreciate! "Please remove all inappropriate external links from the body of the article"

How can links to a musician's past performances and song credits be inappropriate? This is what a musician does and is what makes the 'notable', right? I guess I was equating the links to citations.
Why don't the editors give SPECIFIC advice, like 'please remove the link to ........' Does Wikipedia have a markup function where the editor can actually mark items for suggested changes like most other document apps have?
How can a new contributor learn if no specific advice or examples are given by editors? Very frustrating.
Isn't 'notability' inherently subjective? Prior to doing my first article, I researched other musician pages, some of which have been up for years, and many were lacking the high level of notability seemingly expected currently. Is one editor's notability another editors notable?
Maybe I should try another less stringently moderated subject as my first article or contribution. Or, just give up and move on.

LPDan (talk) 14:01, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@LPDan: Hello LPDan! First, you've started out doing one of the hardest things on Wikipedia which is creating an article. It's usually recommended to have edited pre-existing articles first prior to making your first. Second, you can read about what is and isn't an appropriate external link here. I'm not really suited to answer your other questions unfortunately, but i hope this at least helps somewhat. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:10, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

LPDan: just "Jack Berry (musician)" would be enough for disambiguation. All external links from the main text of the article are unacceptable and should be removed. To establish notability, you need to cite sources, with <ref> tags. Maproom (talk) 15:48, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, LPDan. Content about performances and song credits may be appropriate, but should be verified by properly formatted bibliographic inline references as opposed to external links. Also, performances and song credits do not make a musician notable. Instead, reviews of their performances and recordings published by independent, reliable sources help make a musician notable. External links do not belong in the body of an article. You can create a dedicated external links section at the end of the article, which normally contains a link to the subject's website or main social media site. Cullen328 (talk) 20:23, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Avoiding page history complications

The content on Hedgepeth and Williams v. Board of Education was pretty much entirely plagiarized from its original sources (some are now dead links, but they're still accessible through archive.org). I made a mistake in copy-pasting my revisions to a user sandbox (User:Galactic-Radiance/sandbox2) instead of moving the original article, and between that and the blatant copyright violations of the original page, I'm not sure what the next steps are for avoiding problems with the page history and attribution. From digging around, the first two options seem to be:

Speedy-deleting the original Hedgepeth and Williams page due to the copyright violations and moving my sandbox version over to it. Wipes out the versions that are copyright violations, but also potentially results in attribution problems.
Copy-pasting my revision over to the original page, requesting a history merge from my sandbox to the original article, and then requesting revision deletion of the plagiarized versions.

I've been around here long enough to know that there's a multitude of tools, policies, and request pages for edge cases like this. Is there a simpler option that I've overlooked, or would one of the above options be the best way to handle it, give or take some extra steps? –Galactic-Radiance (talk) 16:00, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Galactic-Radiance: Both options can be done. Speedy delete with the appropriate tag linking to the copyrighted content, and replacing it with a fresh article. Alternatively, I can move the non-copyvio revisions from your sandbox over the original article, which would effectively delete it by replacing it. Drop me a note on my talk page when you're ready for this. ~Anachronist (talk) 02:25, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mehmet Oz

A minor inconsistency on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmet_Oz It regards the length of time that Dr. Oz served in the Turkish Army. In the wikipage introduction, it states six weeks to maintain his Turkish citizenship. But later on in the article, it states two years: "Oz served in the Turkish Army during the 1980s for six weeks of mandatory training specifically for citizens who reside in foreign countries, to maintain his Turkish citizenship."

"spent two years in the Turkish army after college to maintain his dual citizenship."

Did he serve twice or is this just a typo, and, if so, can you pass this on to the editor? I attempted to send this information to the page editors but am not sure that I succeeded. Thanks, Ron Hines Ronaldhines (talk) 16:46, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Normally we'd want this discussion at the bottom (the most current) post of Talk:Mehmet Oz. Do you mind if I post this valid question there? I am looking into it and you may have a point. BusterD (talk) 17:28, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have asked the question at Talk:Mehmet Oz#Sourcing for Turkish military service. I imagine there are sharp eyes on that talk page this weekend. Expect a reply and thanks especially for raising the issue here, since you weren't sure. There are 6 million plus articles and only so many eyes. We appreciate yours. Don't be shy about helping out. If you'd like to do so, keep coming back and asking good questions. BusterD (talk) 17:47, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The bit about serving "two years" was not supported by the provided source and I've removed that from the Oz article. This source says he served for 60 days. Its being "six weeks" isn't supported by provided sources either. —ADavidB 19:39, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

en.wiki not picking up changes at commons

The article Greenwich Mean Time (and others) invokes File:Time Zones of Europe.svg from Commons. Recently, a Russian editor 'revised' it (on Commons) to show Crimea as part of Russia. The disruptive edit has been reverted and, as may be seen from the example (right), is displaying the correct [according to international law] information. But for some reason I don't understand, the GMT article is still showing the vandalised version. I have tried completely shutting down my computer and restarting with no effect. Can someone check the GMT page to see if it is a general problem or should I just take it personally . If it is, how can it be resolved? (Null edits to the affected articles?)

[It must have worked before else the vandalised version would not have made it through.] 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 17:32, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It looks fine to me on Greenwich Mean Time. Have you tries WP:BYPASS? ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 17:42, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

These things can take time to update because of technical things like web caching. It appears correctly on the page now. WPscatter ^t/_c 17:48, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hah! I just KNEW it was personal! "Infamy! Infamy! They've all got it in fo' me! "

Yes, thank you Maddy, that resolved it. Exit, pursued by bear. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 17:55, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, are you certain this edit was disruptive? According to this 2014 article, Crimea changed to Moscow's timezone in that year and I can't find a more recent source saying they changed it since. [4] WPscatter ^t/_c 18:00, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not for me to say but I guess it is the de facto v the de jure problem. Right now, Crimea is occupied and controlled by Russia and declared by them to be part of Russia, so obviously all publically-visible clocks show Moscow time – or else. But by international law, Crimea is part of Ukraine, which observes Eastern European Time. Conventionally, such disputes are shown on maps using stripes or checker-board pattern. You would have to raise it at Commons.

Meanwhile a tid-bit for history fans: n parts of Ireland, Catholic rebels (until their defeat in the Nine Years' War) kept the "new" Easter in defiance of the English-loyal authorities; later, Catholics practising in secret petitioned the Propaganda Fide for dispensation from observing the new calendar, as it signalled their disloyalty. (Adoption of the Gregorian calendar#Adoption in Protestant countries) Nothing new under the sun. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 20:36, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I see that the equivalent image at Eastern European Time has been replaced by File:Time zones of Europe (Crimea disputed).svg, with Crimea striped. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 20:42, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Notability verification for a recent biographical entry

Hi there. I am an academic, and someone other than myself produced a biographical article on me. The article has recently been flagged with the following note: "The topic of this article may not meet Wikipedia's notability guideline for academics. Please help to demonstrate the notability of the topic by citing reliable secondary sources that are independent of the topic and provide significant coverage of it beyond a mere trivial mention. If notability cannot be shown, the article is likely to be merged, redirected, or deleted." I read through the notability guidelines, which lists being editor of a established academic journal in my subject area as one of eight sufficient conditions for establishing notability. I am Editor-in-Chief of such an established journal in my field of research. (It has been published since 1971, and has an international readership.) My question is: can anyone guide me in how I should notify the relevant Wikipedia Editors that (so far as I can tell) I meet the notability guidelines? With thanks! 24.60.151.5 (talk) 19:13, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Notability is judged solely on the subject being discussed in multiple independent and reliable sources. Perhaps you could provide a link to the article in question so that editors here can make an appropriate judgement? Thanks Velella ^{Velella Talk} 19:28, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, Velella, WP:NACADEMIC says Many scientists, researchers, philosophers, and other scholars (collectively referred to as "academics" for convenience) are notably influential in the world of ideas without their biographies being the subject of secondary sources. and it also says Academics meeting any one of the following conditions, as substantiated through reliable sources, are notable, and one of those criteria is The person has been the head or chief editor of a major, well-established academic journal in their subject area. NACADEMIC is an exception to your otherwise accurate explanation of how notability is judged. Cullen328 (talk) 20:03, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I stand corrected, but, nevertheless, we do need confirmation that the Journal is indeed a "well established academic journal" that is headed by this person. A little more detail would help enormously. Velella ^{Velella Talk} 20:26, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Cullen328 and Velella, thanks so much for your responses. In response to Velella's request, here is a link to the article in question: Mitch Green (professor)

It's easy confirm that I'm Editor-in-Chief of a journal, as can be seen by following this link. https://www.springer.com/journal/11406

(The other E.-i.-C will step down from that position at the end of 2022).

I look forward to hearing any further advice you might be able to offer, and appreciate your time. 24.60.151.5 (talk) 20:28, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have added a reference verifying that you are editor-in-chief and removed the tag. Cullen328 (talk) 21:06, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much, I greatly appreciate that. 24.60.151.5 (talk) 21:08, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nate Oliver

I was on the Nate Oliver (baseball) page. At the bottom of the article in the personal life section, it gives his date of death last month. The top of the article shows him as still alive. I did a web search for his obituary and cannot find anything. This is the first time I have seen this on Wikipedia.

I use Wikipedia to help write autograph requests. It is impolite to send auto requests to the family of someone who has passed. TideFanDan (talk) 19:11, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy link: Nate Oliver ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 19:15, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, TideFanDan. Another editor reverted the unreferenced claim that Oliver has died. I searched online and could find no evidence that he has died. He commented to a TV station in 2020 about the death of Joe Morgan so reporters know how to reach him. If you run across this again, just remove the unreferenced claim of death. Erroneous reports of death can be quite distressing to the subject and their friends, relatives and fans. Cullen328 (talk) 19:52, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Adding images of letters to navbox

I have just created a draft page for Tje (a ligature of Cyrillic Te and the Soft sign). As Tje is not yet in Unicode, I am wondering if and how it should be put into a navbox. (navbox: Template:Infobox Cyrillic letter) SlimyGecko7 (talk) 20:26, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@SlimyGecko7: I think "ТЬ" would do. Adding a zero-width joiner – &Tcy;&zwj;&SOFTcy; (Т‍Ь, looks same for me) – has the right semantics, but doesn't (yet) render as a ligature. Could be worth asking at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Writing systems? ⁓ Pelagic ( messages ) 10:06, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Freezing the first row/column of wikitable

Is there a solution/possibilty that could freezing the first row/column of wikitable just like the function in Microsoft Excel? Unnamelessness (talk) 03:43, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it is possilbe, what you are going to do is go to preferences then gadgets. Then you will go to testing and development when you see that, click the box where it says Make sure that headers of tables remain in view as long as the table is in view (requires Firefox v59 or Safari). `~HelpingWorld~`^(👽🛸) 06:53, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

On the subject of Blackbeard the pirate.

2601:204:C502:7220:0:0:0:A357 (talk) 04:42, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

see blackbeard. lettherebedarklight〔晚安おやすみ〕ping me when replying 07:55, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Finding the coordinates of Baugh Creek idaho

So I am creating a page called Baugh Creek, and I put the coordinates of the supposed creek but it shows Oregon not Idaho can someone help? The source is https://www.topozone.com/idaho/blaine-id/stream/baugh-creek-2/ and thats where it says the cords the page im creating is User:HelpingWorld/sandbox. Thanks!`~HelpingWorld~`^(👽🛸) 04:51, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, co-ords, but you might find some other usable material (e.g. land ownership, maps) in Shahverdian et al. 2018 [5] ⁓ Pelagic ( messages ) 09:29, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@HelpingWorld: Wikidata to the rescue? Baugh Creek (Q49847470) says 43°30'33"N, 114°3'25"W, based on USGS GNIS 377046 ⁓ Pelagic ( messages ) 09:36, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@HelpingWorld: Actually, the mouth of Baugh Creek (its confluence with the Little Wood River) seems to be a bit south of that, at 43°30′20″N 114°03′26″W / 43.50562°N 114.05714°W, or about 43°30′20″N, 114°3′26″W. It's clearly visible on the Google aerial map. Sometimes the course of a stream can change or the GNIS data can be a bit off for other reasons. Deor (talk) 13:04, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Concerning wikipedia and BlackBeard

Blackbeard the pirate was said to light wicks on his hat to instill fear into his enemies. I think he light wicks on his hat prior to battle to have a source of fire to ignite things like his pistols (for example if his flints fell out), or a cannon fuse or rifle etc. as well as to instill fear. Readily available fire comes in handy and bic lighters (or zippo's) where not available in the 17th century. Thiebaudster (talk) 04:52, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Thiebaudster, you can discuss this on the article talk page, where editors familiar with the article can help out. You will have to provide reliable sources to verify the information provided. Kpddg ^(talk) 06:08, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Cannot login

Hi, I am very sure this time I didn't forget my password. Yet when I try to login today after a long time of not editing. I now get a message saying something is hijacking my login process and so I cannot log-in at all. I am however able to make a new account but prefer my old one if possible. Is there a simple fix for this? Simpleshooter999 (talk) 05:59, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

H:RP should help! It tells you how to reset your password and get your account back! `~HelpingWorld~`^(👽🛸) 06:49, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Simpleshooter999: Are you blocking cookies for Wikipedia by any chance? The login process needs cookies in order to work. HelpingWorld, I do not believe your reply is helpfull. If you input an incorrect username/password combination into the login form and hit the submit button, the system is going to tell you that you inputed an incorrect username/password. I believe the particular error message the OP is describing is the result of when a hidden CSRF token, which the servers add to all login forms (as well as other forms, including edit, but those use a distinct token), is not present or invalid when the login form is submitted. Victor Schmidt (talk) 08:05, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Homosexual Serial Killers?

Is it ok too talk about homosexual serial killers? Simplystart (talk) 06:05, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Going to assume you have good intentions. Do you mean if it's okay to 'edit' articles about homosexual serial Killers like Jeffrey Dahmer? Well am not an expert here but seen other experts reject your questions before. But as long as such additions are noteworthy and relevant. I don't see why you cannot as long as you keep it appropriate for an encyclopaedia. Simpleshooter999 (talk) 06:26, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Policy stating that you're not supposed to edit on others' behalf

Does such a thing exist? If so, where can I find it? I think I've seen something similar to this on WP, but I cannot remember where it is and cannot find it. I'm asking this because an Uncyclopedia editor with a vanished WP account (and doesn't want to unvanish for some reason I don't think I've heard about) keeps finding things here and asks people to do stuff for them. ARandomPage (talk • contribs) 06:56, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Was it in WP:COI because it talks about similar things to that. `~HelpingWorld~`^(👽🛸) 06:59, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi ARandomPage, WP:PROXYING might be relevant. I believe in this situation it is probably allowed as long as you take responsibility for those edits. Justi yaya 07:17, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, ARandomPage. Please see Wikipedia:Sockpuppetry#Meatpuppetry. Cullen328 (talk) 07:48, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify, they're not trying to use "meatpuppets" in the sense that WP:MEAT implies. Usually, they just find some form of error or vandalism or something on Wikipedia that they just can't fix due to the reasons I said above. ARandomPage (talk • contribs) 16:18, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I do think this is relevant here. The Uncyclopedian did have their account vanished. I do believe I have my own reasons for carrying out a few of their edits (so far just one), so I think I'll be alright. ARandomPage (talk • contribs) 16:18, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

WP:MEAT? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:56, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My page is rejected , how to contest and get approved

I have been working in climate challenges to create awareness and sensitise . so I created my page, but , I have received a message saying may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may not be retained. Ramesh shivanna (talk) 09:45, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you are talking about your thrice-deleted user page, you need to read about the purpose of a user page. You also need to read the advice against autobiography, and realise that Wikipedia is not for promotion. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:43, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Record Label Roster

I am trying to update the current roster of Flightless Records, however, due to lack of official word from any acts or the label itself, i am unable to cite the article. I am trying to add Amyl and the Sniffers, Babe Rainbow, King Gizzard & the Lizard Wizard, The Murlocs and Tropical Fuck Storm to the alumni section of the article. All recent releases from these acts have been on other labels. How can I remedy this to get the correct roster?

I don't believe that there will be any official word regarding this as it has been a while since they have left the label without saying anything, and I have personally spoken to one of the members of Tropical Fuck Storm and they stated it was a private matter so there won't be anything public regarding that. Beatlebyrd050 (talk) 10:06, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Beatlebyrd050, Amyl's ARIA listing for their self-titled debut (https://www.aria.com.au/awards/news/2019-aria-award-winners-announced) says Flightless Records, though AllMusic only lists the ATO catalogue numbers. I haven't looked at the other bands. ⁓ Pelagic ( messages ) 10:24, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes their self titled debut was on flightless, but their subsequent release is not on flightless, and is listed under virgin on ARIA. Beatlebyrd050 (talk) 10:33, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

listed here under the album of the year noms. the problem is for most of the artists, there is no word saying that they have left the label, despite all new releases from these acts appearing under other labels Beatlebyrd050 (talk) 10:35, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Short of creating a new section "bands known to have recorded for Flightless but now with uncertain relationship status", I think you'd be okay listing them under alumni. Amyl don't seem to be mentioned in the Flightless article at all, currently. Better to add them under the presumptively-correct section than to have them missing, IMHO. One person's WP:SYNTH is another's WP:SKY. Seems that an IP recently removed some bands from current roster but didn't add them to alumni. ⁓ Pelagic ( messages ) 11:23, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Berdia Diant

Original post:

ایجاد مقاله
چندین بار مقاله ای جهت سرشناسی بیشتر بازیگر بردیا دیانت ایجاد کردم ولی حدف شد،راهنمایی بفرمایید لطفا 5.116.245.234 (talk) 05:42, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

Machine translation:

Create an article
I have created an article several times for the better recognition of the actor Berdia Dayant, but it was not enough, please guide me

Hello, IP! This appears to be about https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/بردیا_دیانت deleted in Farsi Wikipedia? Please ask them there. Few people on English Wikipedia would be familiar with policies on Farsi WP. ⁓ Pelagic ( messages ) 10:44, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

...in addition, each language of Wikipedia is functionally separate from one another, with different processes, policies, and people involved, so we're not really able to help here. apologies, and happy editing! 💜 melecie talk - 10:46, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"for the better recognition of the actor" is not an appropriate justification for creating a Wikipedia article. Wikipedia is not for promotion. Please take advantage of social media or wikis with less stringent screening criteria to spread the word about Dayant. Quisqualis (talk) 18:38, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

About

Can I add source in which was available in Hindi Language Jisshu (talk) 12:37, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Jisshu hi. I think you can, but it’s good to provide a translation too. From what I read at WP:RSUE Blanchey (talk) 12:42, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Error 503

I frequently encounter "Error 503" when editing Wikipedia with Norton Smart Firewall installed on my computer. However, as soon as I deactivate Norton, editing becomes normal. Debug result points to proxy issues. Is there a fix? RPSkokie (talk) 12:49, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@RPSkokie: This might be a better question to ask at WP:VPT. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:58, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Blaze Wolf thanks. I am heading out there now. RPSkokie (talk) 16:47, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Minor edits

How to know if an edit is minor or not? Are talk page and user page edits considered minor, and should I provide an edit summary for these edits (these referring to talk page and user page edits)? Quantum XYZ (chat) 15:16, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Quantum XYZ and welcome to the Teahouse! WP:MINOR provides the following rule of thumb: ‘edits consisting solely of spelling corrections, formatting changes, or rearrangement of text without modification of the content should be flagged as minor edits.’ The same goes for user and talk pages— it all depends on the content of the edit. Adding a new comment on a talk page wouldn’t be minor, but adding a punctuation mark would be. When in doubt, I wouldn’t mark it as minor. As for edit summaries, you’re not required to use them, but it’s considered good practice.

◇HelenDegenerate◆ 17:09, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@HelenDegenerate: Thanks for your help! Quantum XYZ (chat) 12:24, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Patrol/Reviewer

To become an NPP/NPR, an editor would need experience in reviewing new pages, which is what NPPs/NPRs do. How can I gain this experience without being one in the 1st place? Quantum XYZ (chat) 15:18, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Quantum XYZ Having general experience in the core principles of WP:V, WP:NPOV and recognising WP:RS are the main things you would require. Then head over to WP:NPP to find out how to apply. Given that you have only been editing from your account for a couple of months and that the NPP is, surprisingly, not heavily backlogged now, I suggest you spend your efforts elsewhere for the moment. You need 500+ mainspace edits before you can join their school. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:18, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Michael D. Turnbull: Thanks for your help! Quantum XYZ (chat) 12:25, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Translation work from English/Spanish into Greek

Hello everyone! I am a Greek Archaeologist-Museologist and I am interested in doing some translation work from English or Spanish into Greek in Wikipedia. However, I cannot figure out how I can do. I definitely need step by step guidance. I have created a profil where only editor job etc (except tranlsation option) is stated. I have also visited Wikipedia: translation page/pages needing translation but I still have troubles in finding the way to further proceed and do the job.

I would appreciate if you could provide relevant information and instructions.

Best, Alexia Ntousaki Alexntous (talk) 15:18, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Alexntous. Please read Wikipedia:Translate us which should get you started. Attribution is very important. Cullen328 (talk) 16:46, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Found an issue in a semi-protected article that I can't edit

In the article Web design, the first letter of the sentence beginning as "In November 1992" seems bold for no reason.

I'd be very thankful if someone with the authority to do so could fix this. Raizael (talk) 19:01, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Fixed. Feline Hymnic (talk) 19:13, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Just so you know for the future, you can make edit requests on the talk page of protected pages, as long as they're specific (i.e. not just "can someone fix this article please"). If it's a reasonable change that would improve the page (as this one was) then it will probably get done quickly. WPscatter ^t/_c 22:12, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

upload jpeg graphics

Greetings, I'm attempting to upload 2 jpeg files. I'm currently in the sandbox. After the files are uploaded I want to publish to wikipedia. Wordworkin (talk) 20:04, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, and welcome to the Teahouse. Before uploading images or other media files, you must find out what the copyright status of the two files is. The english Wikipedia only accepts media files which either, demonstratibly:

are in the public domain because of age, simplicity or other reasons,
freely licensed or
meet all of Wikipedia's non-free content criteria.

Public domain and freely licensed media should be uploaded to our sister project Wikimedia Common, while non-free files most be uploaded locally.

I assume this query is about User:Wordworkin/sandbox, to which I have done a few formatting changes, however, I am not convinced it is ready for article space yet. For example, all references seem to be web content, however, zero thereof have a URL that would allow me or anyone else to look at the sources without engaginga search engine. Please read Wikipedia:Your first article, if you haven't already. See also WP:So you made a userspace draft. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 21:23, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wordworkin, you haven't submitted User:Wordworkin/sandbox as a candidate for an article, but as I look at it I have trouble imagining that Herd House will be shown to be notable (as notability is understood in Wikipedia). Without the demonstrated notability of its subject, a draft won't be accepted. Addition of photographs or other images will do nothing toward making Herd House seem more notable. You'd better work on the text and the references. If the draft is ever accepted, you'll then be able to add photographs (as long as you own their copyright). -- Hoary (talk) 22:33, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Correcting an article

An item in the Wikipedia article about historic houses in Ashland, Kentucky has an error. In the list of National Register homes there is mention of the "Edward Poage House" at 1016 Winchester Avenue in Ashland. That house was on the National Register but the home was owned by Edwin Poage, not Edward. Mr. Poage was my grandfather and his daughter my mother, so I am entirely familiar with this matter. 47.187.7.102 (talk) 21:55, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Which article are you referring to? In any case, if it was on the National Register, that is what must be on the page, and it can't be corrected without reference to a reliable, secondary source. Correcting it based on your personal knowledge is original research and is not allowed on Wikipedia. If however there is a reliable source confirming this, then feel free to correct the article by adding a citation to it. WPscatter ^t/_c 22:09, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mayim Bialik humanitarian efforts

I'd like to add more details to Mayim's page about the work and/or partnerships she has done or is doing with many different organizations but for at least one, and I'm pretty sure there were a couple more, all I could find was a quote from her on the organizations site. Is it impossible to add those at all, would I need to just not add a link? I'm new to this and I'm unsure how to best to proceed. Hotpotato75 (talk) 22:16, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hotpotato75 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia is intended to summarize what independent reliable sources say about a topic. To include charitable work of Mayim Bialik in the article about her, there must be independent sources that discuss it- her talking about her own work is insufficient. 331dot (talk) 22:34, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not to mention that such sections tend to be magnets for laudatory and opinionated editing. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 23:00, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's what I thought but I just wanted to be sure. Most people I know seem to care about what charities and humanitarian efforts their favorite celebs are supporting so I would like to add what I can even if that means there is nothing to add at this point for the ones I personally follow. Hotpotato75 (talk) 20:05, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How do I (propose to) start an Entry - "Westcoast Black Theater"

A friend of mine went to the "Westcoast Black Theater," which is mentioned in Sarasota, Florida but is without a Wikipedia entry. I would like to get develop an article for submission so I started to write down some thoughts here; User:Flibbertigibbets/sandbox#Westcoast Black Theater Troupe I was hoping to be pointed in the right direction, get some input about the draft, and get the entry started. I am trying to "hit" quite a bit above my weight class so any help or suggestions (or even constructive criticism) would be much appreciated. Flibbertigibbets (talk) 02:49, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Figured out how to create a draft page - "I am trying to "hit" quite a bit above my weight class so any help or suggestions (or even constructive criticism) would be much appreciated."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Westcoast_Black_Theatre_Troupe Flibbertigibbets (talk) 03:44, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Flibbertigibbets, Wikipedia has little or no interest in the "mission" of the subject of an article, or in what the subject has a "commitment" towards, unless either has been discussed by reliable sources. Reliability requires (among other things) independence from the subject. What have reliable sources said about WBTT? Summarize, of course specifying your sources. -- Hoary (talk) 03:53, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks.. I will address that issue; the primary source issue, and the copyright issue. I guess that it would be easy to fall into "researching" Flibbertigibbets (talk) 04:06, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You need clarify what the subject of the draft is. At present, some of it is about Jacobs, some is about a troupe (a bunch of people who put on plays, right? Is any of them notable, in Wikipedia's sense?), and some is about an organization with a board. And you say above that your friend went there – so maybe it's an actual theater, a playhouse? Maproom (talk) 08:14, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That is a really good point. Flibbertigibbets (talk) 12:36, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Flibbertigibbets This source [6] may be useful. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:15, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see you had that in the draft. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:30, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for all the help! and Thanks for All the Fish! (<-that is a joke, could not resist!)

https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&title=Draft:Westcoast_Black_Theatre_Troupe&url=

Draft:Westcoast Black Theatre Troupe Flibbertigibbets (talk) 16:57, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

what is basketball

? 173.217.199.21 (talk) 03:57, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to the Teahouse. Does the basketball article help? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:15, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

i need help with making an article

greetings, i am tsu! truly impressive, isn't it? i'm new to the whole editing gig, and i only signed up to make an article of smth, have any tips? Tsuthehottest! (talk) 05:58, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I recommend you do some minor edits first (e.g., copyedit and referencing) before you make your first article. Make sure the topic follows notability guidelines. ██ Dentsinhere43 is a new Wikipedian. 06:04, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

tysm!!! Tsuthehottest! (talk) 06:06, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome! Creating a new article is a tall order, and you will have better luck if you get a feel for the encyclopedia by editing existing articles first. A guide on creating your first article is available and very helpful, but it too recommends you don't jump straight to creating an article before contributing to the wiki in other ways. WPscatter ^t/_c 06:05, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

alright, i'll start by editing other pages, but i kinda need help with putting in numbers like [1] Tsuthehottest! (talk) 06:07, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

oh btw, tysm!! Tsuthehottest! (talk) 06:07, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Those numbers are citations, and here is a guide on using them. Make sure your sources are reliable. WPscatter ^t/_c 06:14, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ty!!!! Tsuthehottest! (talk) 06:18, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kuru Footwear Resolution (Support or Oppose)

Prior discussion on this Draft got archived without a resolution. Please see here. I have taken the recommendation of all involved and revised to reduce anything promotional. I have also removed the medical claims and changed it so that it says which publications have stated the benefit of the shoes. In addition, changed the all CAPS spellings to lowercase. Could we please have just a Support or Oppose vote? Support means the page is OK now to go live. Oppose means, it is not ready and needs more work or should be just declined. @melecie @Hoary @Cullen328 @Tigraan @MrOllie @SMcCandlish @Helloheart Downinit9 (talk) 09:05, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The draft was rejected and won't be considered again, time to WP:DROPTHESTICK. Theroadislong (talk) 09:07, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is not the purpose of the Teahouse. Cullen328 (talk) 16:44, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Theroadislong I would really appropriate if you can post some specific reasons as to why? Have you checked the prior discussion? Several people have agreed that it can be improved and it just sounded promotional. No one has yet raised an issue with provided citations. I have now improved the article, so it needs another look. Downinit9 (talk) 19:24, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Many people raised issues with the citations, I was one of them. This article inherently makes medical claims, and the sources do not meet the required WP:MEDRS standard. Attributing the claims does not fix that problem. MrOllie (talk) 19:41, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The medical claims have been removed and revised. It is now just saying "According to publications..." and what they have stated. There is no medical claim anymore. Plus a shoe that is made for better walking conditions and health is hardly a medical claim. It is not a pill or medication. It has been rated in top 10 of walking shoes or shoes that help certain health conditions on multiple notable publications which also have Wikipedia pages, so they are coming from reliable publications. If what you say was the case, then many other shoe pages on Wikipedia should be removed that make similar shoes. Downinit9 (talk) 20:02, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That is where you are wrong. Literally EVERY claim that would have a direct impact on human health or the practice of medicine REQUIRES sourcing that meets WP:MEDRS claims. It doesn't matter if the subject is a drug, a medical procedure, equipment, or clothing. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 20:05, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Even if it is the case, there are supporting sources from Wired, Men's Health, Well+Good, Footwear News, the Philippine Daily Inquirer, ABC, Self. all of which are credible publications with Wiki pages. Downinit9 (talk) 20:36, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I looked at a few of those, but they were short mentions in listicles '18 best shoes for bunions' and so on. They don't meet WP:CORPDEPTH. Trivial mentions of the company aren't enough. - MrOllie (talk) 21:10, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Per_Leth-Nissen

Hi,

The above mentioned article got dismissed.

I have two questions that I hope you can help med with.

How do I cite all the music records, that I have produced or engineered, when Discogs.com is unacceptable?
Another wiki user (an internationally famous author) wrote the text to the article about me - and that what's I have published. I am totally new to writing articles on wiki - so where do we go from here? Edit the text og letting him upload the article or?

Really hope that you can help me.

Kindest

Per SHAPEYourFuture (talk) 09:57, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello SHAPEYourFuture! To aid question 1, there's a list of recommended sources for music related Wikipedia articles at Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Sources. Hope that is of some help to you! Take care, LooksGreatInATurtleNeck (talk) 10:33, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, SHAPEYourFuture, ahd welcome to the Teahouse. One thing to realise is that Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. Another is that An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. Please also have a look at why writing about yourself is so strongly discouraged.

My suggestion would be that you drop this draft, and work on other existing articles that interest you. On the other hand, if your only purpose in editing Wikipedia is to write an article about yourself, then I suggest you find another outlet that accepts promotion: Wikipedia does not. ColinFine (talk) 12:26, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

allmusic.com is acceptable per Wiki policy Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Sources. Do you have credits there? If not, I suggest you request them to add your credits and then try. Downinit9 (talk) 19:35, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Source

How to identified independent Sources can you please explain in simple words Jisshu (talk) 09:58, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

For information about independent sources, try reading WP:Independent sources. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:02, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jisshu (ec) Independent sources are those that are not connected to the subject in any way, and where the source chose on their own to write about the topic, without prompting by the topic. This would not include things like an interview, the subject's social media, or anywhere where the subject is speaking about themselves or just announcing what they do. There are times when such sources can be used, but never to establish notability. I would highly suggest that you use the new user tutorial. 331dot (talk) 10:06, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Term for too much written about an insignificant thing?

Hello, I could swear there was a policy/guidance about writing excessively about something insignificant within an article, but I can’t remember the name. What is the name for this? Asperthrow (talk) 10:53, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe WP:TRIVIA. Shantavira|^{feed me} 11:02, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also Wikipedia:Due weight. ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 11:13, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

And if you mean putting in an article on topic A lots of text about a barely related B, then possibly you think about a WP:COATRACK...? --CiaPan (talk) 12:31, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The word "cruft" is sometimes used for this, as in WP:FANCRUFT or WP:GAMECRUFT. WPscatter ^t/_c 16:46, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Vs Life

What's better? Editing Wikipedia or being alive? Surely Wikipedia's morals are not really applicable in real life. I can't be neutral and assume good faith all the time. Or can I? Isn't it all a pretence, this kind of writing, and that this is not really as people are? The way this place is does not elucidate fully on the extremity of humanity because words in this tone consistently cannot convey the depravity and madness one may sense or be enamoured within. Or not? ButterCashier (talk) 11:53, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@ButterCashier Given that you have contributed to the Project productively in the past, your post suggests you may need to take a WP:WIKIBREAK. Relax.... Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:16, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ButterCashier, we are here to build an encyclopedia, not to engage in philosophical musings or to bemoan the state of the world. There are countless websites where such discussions are welcomed. This isn't one of them. Cullen328 (talk) 16:50, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

edits not useful?

Why are my edits not useful? the information on the wikipedia page is very out of date and I am trying to update it with more relevant information. Harriseen (talk) 12:04, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Harriseen Welcome to the Teahouse. Your only major edit from your account was this one, which removed large chunks of information and references. It was reverted but if you think it was made correctly you need to discuss this on Talk:Net 1 UEPS Technologies as part of our standard WP:BRD process. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:13, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How to delete draft

Draft Jisshu (talk) 12:27, 7 November 2022 (UTC) How to proposed a Draft to be deleted[reply]

@Jisshu: If you are referring to Draft:MC STAN, which you put a PROD, you might want to use {{Db-g7}} since it is mostly your work. – robertsky (talk) 12:32, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Duplicate article

I was trying to make some minor changes to Wikipedia articles that needed them, just to contribute to Wikipedia. I came across George Appert, and it's a pretty empty page. I did some researching to find out more about this person, when I found a second page, Georges Appert, a biography about seemingly the same person. An external source on the page of George Appert proved this. Can I merge the two articles or delete one of them? DesolatedMelancholist (talk) 12:39, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @DesolatedMelancholist: Welcome to the teahouse! In this case, I believe a redirect would work if no one else has the same name and has an article. The course of action to take would be: 1. find the more correct name (Georges or George), 2. merge the other article into the correct name, and 3. make the other article a redirect to the correct name. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 12:42, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The articles appear to be about different people. They just happen to have the same birth years. I think more research is needed. Esolo5002 (talk) 14:58, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah. When I looked at the pages someone erroneously added "painter" to Georges Appert. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 15:12, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I checked translations of George Appert and it has a Russian translation stating he wrote the book Ancient Japan which Japanologist Georges Appert also wrote. DesolatedMelancholist (talk) 15:29, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This does seem to be a case of "more research needed" - checking what the sources in each article say and evaluating their reliability would be a start (other language versions of Wikipedia are not reliable sources). It's possible that the dates in one or both articles are incorrect; the similar names may have led to confusion elsewhere. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 15:50, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Suicide

If a user on wikipedia mentions very serious topics like threats of suicide or self harm (or are telling that they're gonna kill themselves) , what is generally the first step should you take? Wikipedian10282 (talk) 12:49, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:Responding to threats of harm. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:50, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Wikipedian10282 (talk) 12:53, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

BLP dates related policies and guidelines?

Are there any help/ policy/ guideline / essay articles or previous discussions regarding dates mentioned in BLP articles such as Birth / marriage / death dates.

Question came to my mind after reading of synopsis of this linked dispute , any ways I wish to have more general answer for referring to policies in other BLP articles too for my own knowledge too.

Bookku (talk) 13:34, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have looke at the policies and guidelines of WP but found nothing of the sort. Maybe there is something, but i just didn't find it, sorry. MrYellowWatermelon (talk) 16:23, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

For the linked dispute, Iskandar323 is right, a source from 2011 can't be used to make claims about the present. For the presumed death of Rajavi in 2016, I think we should wait for the confirmation, as the death of someone is important. MrYellowWatermelon (talk) 16:26, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please help me improve an article?

Good day,

I hope you’re well? An article I created Draft:Neo Rapetsoa was recently moved to draft space. The editors reasons were that 1. There is a conflict of interest and 2. The subject is not notable?

The article has been reviewed before and the editor(s) said that the sources were good enough and that the article was well written.

Could someone pls help me navigate what to do to get the article published?

Thank you Alien Superstar (talk) 16:36, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Previous discussion: Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive_1164#I need assistance with an article?. From what I can see, Draft:Neo Rapetsoa was moved to mainspace thrice, each time by Alien Superstar, and into draft by MrsSnoozyTurtle and Onel5969. @Alien Superstar:, do you have a conflict of interest or paid edits relationship either of which would need to be disclosed? Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 17:14, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I was asked by the actress’s media team to create a page for her. Is there a way that I can declare this on the article? Alien Superstar (talk) 17:24, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Alien Superstar, please review WP:COI. You can place a declaration on your user page, which is easiest for everyone to see; there are also templates which can be used on the talk page of the draft/article. Others can place the latter for you. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 17:30, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Alien Superstar Please clarify "I was asked by the actress’s media team". Why would they do this? Are you being compensated for doing so or just helping out? Compensation would trigger the required paid editing disclosure. Note that Wikipedia has articles, not pages. This may aid your mindset. 331dot (talk) 17:35, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@331dot thank you for your kind message and also noted about the correct Wikipedia jargon! Editor @199.208.172.35 has already explained how I can disclose that I was paid by the client to write the article for her. Alien Superstar (talk) 17:57, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for this! Alien Superstar (talk) 17:53, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you click the words "paid editing disclosure" in my post above, it will take you to the policy which provides instructions on how to disclose. If you find the coding too challenging, you may simply write a statement on your user page (User:Alien Superstar) to the effect of "I, Alien Superstar, have been paid by (who is paying you) on behalf of (who you are editing for, if different) for my contributions to Wikipedia". 331dot (talk) 19:48, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please help me improve an article?

I hope you’re well? An article I created Draft:Neo Rapetsoa was recently moved to draft space. The editors reasons were that 1. There is a conflict of interest and 2. The subject is not notable?Wikipedia:Conflict of interest Mr DC London (talk) 18:24, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Are you Alien Superstar, or are you just repeating the question above? Sarrail (talk) 18:25, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Sarrail I am just repeating the question as part of the training, thankyou Mr DC London (talk) 20:20, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What exactly do you mean as "part of the training"? Are you being paid to edit Wikipedia and do you work with Alien Superstar at all? ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 20:21, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Mr DC London, welcome to the Teahouse. Do you have a question about editing Wikipedia? You've never edited the draft you mentioned. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 18:35, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am just going through the wikipedia adventure programme, thankyou. Mr DC London (talk) 20:22, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm confused. TWA should not be asking you to repeat a question someone else asked on the Teahouse. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 20:25, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

help

can someone please help me figure out how to use the Yi syllable Wu (Yi iteration mark) in my signiture? go to unicode and scroll to "Anomalies" to see it. also maybe help with the U+2118 and the U+FE18 ones Allaoii ^talk 18:31, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How to see in linked pages if the link goes to a heading?

For redirects, it says redirect to page#heading but for links in pages, it doesn't show. is it possible to show? because on List of north–south roads in Toronto - Wikipedia, there a numerous page that i created a redirect for just a bit ago. I found numerous pages that rather than linking to the redirect(Because i just made them), linked to say List of north–south roads in Toronto#main street rather than main street (toronto), which i just made. In the event main street (toronto) becomes a standalone page, some pages would just go to the undetailed version on the list. i want to find them and change them before this could ever happen. Humulator (talk) 18:38, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify, are you asking if there is a way to see links to a specific page heading, as you can see links to a page by clicking "What links here"? In any case, the preemptive editing you wish to do seems unnecessary; in the event that Main Street (Toronto) does become its own article, then the section on List of north-south roads in Toronto would get a hatnote that looks like this:

And anyone following a link to the page heading would be able to get there easily. WPscatter ^t/_c 18:46, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, what you said is what i am asking, i understand it may be unnecessary, but I still would like to see if its possible. it may be useful for other reasons and many times i wanted to see it out of curiosity. Humulator (talk) 18:51, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If there is a way, I don't know how. I just checked the links for Foul (basketball); Coach's challenge has a link to Foul (basketball)#Coach's challenge, but the link from Coach's challenge is lumped together with the rest of them. Narrowing the search by heading didn't remove the other links either. WPscatter ^t/_c 18:57, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

welp, there's is almost certainly a way, probably with 3rd party things, but thanks for trying. Humulator (talk) 19:01, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Warren Beatty, Shirley MacLaine and A. A. MacLeod

Both the articles Warren Beatty and Shirley MacLaine mention their uncle A. A. MacLeod but while the Beatty article has "Canadian politician" the MacLaine article has "a Communist member of the Ontario legislature in the 1940s". I'm wondering if the details should be added to the former or deleted from the latter. While neither article mentions MacLeod again his includes "Both Beatty and MacLaine have referred to the MacLeods as a major influence on their own liberal political philosophy. One of Beatty's biographers has commented that his aunt and uncle were "the private inspiration" behind his portrait of Louise Bryant and John Reed in his 1981 film Reds." so perhaps both should.

Incidentally, the MacLaine article refers to MacLeod as "her mother's brother-in-law" while the Beatty article has "uncle by marriage". MacLeod's article describes his wife as the sister of their mother. Mcljlm (talk) 18:54, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Copied Text

Hi! I'm quite new to editing and have done well so far, and I am planning to write some additional information on a specific wikipedia article. Before I start however, I was wondering - if I copied the exact text from a different website to add to an article (and obviously gave citations for it), would that put me in trouble regarding copyright? Or do I have to slightly modify the original text before adding it in and publishing? Any help would be appreciated, thanks! Wikipedian10282 (talk) 19:15, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:PARAPHRASE: "Editors should generally summarize source material in their own words." Indeed copying large amounts of material from sources, even if they are cited, can be a copyright or plagiarism issue. Don't think of it as "slightly modifying" the original text, or aiming for a threshold at which there is no copyright issue; instead, you should aim to convey the information the source provides in an encyclopedic tone. Sometimes the appropriate wording is very similar, and sometimes it's very different. However, red flags should be going off if you're copying several lines of text verbatim from a single source. WPscatter ^t/_c 19:22, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, that clears up everything! Wikipedian10282 (talk) 19:30, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Using the auto citation button

I'm currently trying to make an article on the genus Archangelia, yet I can't seem to be getting any result from the auto-citation machine when I try to input this citation into it https://www.researchgate.net/publication/336319358_UPPER_PRECAMBRIAN_AND_CAMBRIAN_PALAEONTOLOGY_OF_THE_EAST-EUROPEAN_PLATFORM_CONTRIBUTION_OF_THE_SOV1ET-POLISH_WORKING_GROUP_ON_THE_PRECAMBR1AN-CAMBR1AN_BOUNDARY_PROBLEM, is there anything wrong that I'm doing? If I turn it into a dead link on the article, I'll be converting it to an actual citation once I get a response telling me what is wrong. Rugoconites Tenuirugosus (talk) 19:28, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Where do you have your draft of the article? - UtherSRG (talk) 19:50, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Podcasting as a reliable source.

Here is the question I want to ask all of you:

Are all podcasts a reliable source?

I wanted to ask that because I hardly see people citing podcasts as a source in articles they edit.

And I'm sure that news media organization does podcasting.

So, would you please explain if podcasting is reliable or deprecated source on Wikipedia? -- 204.129.232.195 (talk) 19:57, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think that podcasts can be reliable as long they contain factual information. —2600:1010:B12A:AE74:F835:F68:51C5:4C62 (talk) 20:01, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As a general rule podcasts are considered to be usable under the same circumstances as op-eds or blogs - if its showrunners are subject-matter experts and the podcast is focused on their area of expertise. Otherwise, podcasts generally lack editorial oversight. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 20:02, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If the podcast is an interview with the subject (which usually is), then it would be considered a primary source and cannot be used. If it is just commentary about the subject, then it can be used, as long as it is from a established and notable podcaster. Downinit9 (talk) 20:09, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Jéské Couriano @Downinit9 But, would you elaborate even more? I wanted to go in-depth in podcasts. -- 204.129.232.195 (talk) 20:20, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what further information you are asking for, IP user. The format of a source is pretty well irrelevant, whether it is text, video, or audio. What matters is who published it. If it was published by an organization with a reputation for editorial control and fact-checking, then it is probably a reliable source. If it was published by the subject of the article, or somebody closely associated with the subject, it is probably reliable, but not indepedent, so can be used only for limited kinds of information. If it was self-published by a recognized authority as Jeske said, it can probably be used. Otherwise, no. ColinFine (talk) 20:37, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Does that mean that I should cite podcasts as a source, if I want to edit articles to add information in each topic like culture, tourism, politics, history, science, comedy, geography, popular music, and health? Or may I might use blogs instead as a source? -- 204.129.232.195 (talk) 21:13, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sherry Sherrod DuPree entry send in over 12 months ago

Topics: African American Holiness Pentecostism; DuPree Pentecostal collections; Rosewood Massacre; Civil Rights; Atrocities Amil1825 (talk) 20:06, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You need to provide context; as it is this is a collection of unrelated words. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 20:19, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Amil1825, welcome to the Teahouse. There seem to be no other edits from this account. If a draft was created over 12 months ago and subsequently not edited for a six month period, it would have been automatically deleted. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 20:42, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It sounds as if you are asking about what has happened to a Draft or an attempt at an article. We have an article Rosewood Massacre, but I can't find anything about the other terms. If you are asking about a draft or an attempt at an article, you need to tell us the precise name of the draft or article. ColinFine (talk) 20:44, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]