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April 4

Flagging a page for deletion

How do i flag a page for deletion, specifically White House Office of Political Affiars, note the incorrect spelling. I have altered all the links and blanked the page but I don't know how to flag it for deletion, and I can't seem to find the answer, which I know is somewhere but I am too lazy to carry on looking Benny45boy (talk) 16:12, 14 April 2009 (UTC) Ignore question, I have found out how to do it Benny45boy (talk) 17:05, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My talkpage TOC formatting disaster

Hi. My talkpage was getting too short, so I manually added a table of contents. However, since I have a hidden list at the top, the A-Z (1-26) are taking up too much room in the TOC! Is there a way I can make the TOC so that the hidden list does not show up? Thanks. ~A H 1^(TCU) 01:41, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm seeing a TOC that says "You clicked my blue A..." etc., which appears to be a box. Is this the TOC you're talking about? I'm asking because your talk page and mine look very different - but I'm using a particular skin. I don't see any lists that go from A-Z. How does a page get too short? I'm confused!LeValley (talk) 02:35, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would suggest that instead of a hidden transclusion of User:The Transhumanist/List of country outline government sections that you link to it. That way you could visit it when you want, but its sections would not appear in your TOC. As it is, the TOC is doing what it is supposed to. —teb728 t c 04:59, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you don't mind if they're not actual headings, and just want the look & feel of them, you could also always use ;A or <big>A</big> instead of ==== A ====. hmwith τ 21:13, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed the template to a link, and to visit my talkpage, please click the "T" and not the "A". ~A H 1^(TCU) 01:15, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

To write with International Phonetic Alphabet

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Zoo Fari 21:06, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if this is the right place to ask. Does somebody know how to write "Steinway & Sons" and "Steinway" with the International Phonetic Alphabet (Wikipedia:IPA)? Fanoftheworld (talk) 02:20, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Based on WP:IPA for English, wiktionary:stein and wiktionary:way, I would go for {{IPA2|ˈstaɪnweɪ}} (IPA: [ˈstaɪnweɪ]), or perhaps IPA: [ˈʃtaɪnweɪ] if you feel the initial S should take the Germanic "sh" sound. Personally I would not bother explaining the "& Sons" part in an English encyclopaedia, but it would be IPA: [ˈstaɪnweɪ ænd sʌnz]. I am no IPA expert, so corrections are welcome. Certes (talk) 14:09, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for helping! Fanoftheworld (talk) 22:12, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Style on Wikipedia

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Zoo Fari 21:06, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is it against the rules to make the lead paragraph of an article somewhat interesting, as opposed to an etymological/linear entry? I'm not being facetious or rude, I hope. Specifically, I'm talking about entries in very broad categories, like Anthropology or...well, lots of other topics. I know everything is supposed to be verifiable, but as a copyeditor, we're asked to pay attention to tone. People often say the "tone" of the article is too dry and, while informative (in my example, the reader learns that "anthropos" is Greek for "human being" early in the article), may linger too long on less interesting stuff. Anthropologists study modern and ancient cannibals, using everything from mythology to mtDNA to fossilized feces (coprolites). That's interesting and truthful - but apparently we're supposed to lead with..."The ancient Greek root..." (except that of course the word wasn't invented until way after the Greeks lived - along about the 18th century...in use by 1781 when Kant used it...(etc.) Is all that dry stuff about Greeks and Kant necessarily first? Or are there degrees of freedom in editing Wikipedia? I am in favor of some sort of "happy medium," but I also think the "medium" would be different, based on article topic. Anthropology is broad and interesting, inviting various kinds of leads whereas an entry on "centimeter" or "Ionian mode" isn't quite the same. Oh - and if someone can direct me to where discussions like this are already taking place, that would be very helpful. LeValley (talk) 02:31, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The instructions for the lead section can be found here. There is no 'order' that the information is presented in, but we should use common sense to determine the most suitable way to present the information. Unless there is an established format for the articles at WikiProject Anthropology, this should be ok. But make sure you don't use unnecessarily decorative language (no peacock or weasel words etc). I suggest you try at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anthropology if you need a more detailed answer, since the people interested in this subject area would know about this more. Cheers. Chamal ^talk 02:49, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Check Category:Anthropology for other articles relating to anthropology that might be better suited for emphasizing whichever aspects you care about. I'm not familiar with our anthropology articles, but I know that in other topic areas, a common misstep is to try to pile everything into the top-most article for the topic area (such as Solar energy), instead of breaking out subordinate ideas into the many related subordinate articles. (See WP:SPLIT and WP:SUMMARY for guidelines on how we divide up large topics into several articles.) If you have some new take on anthropology that Wikipedia doesn't already cover, you might be able to start a new article about it (although starting new articles and getting them to stick can be difficult). The top-most article in a topic area usually gets the most views and the most edits, which can make it much harder for getting your edits to "stick", since so many other editors might have a different idea for the article. Look at the article's history to see the frequency of edits - an article that gets edited every few minutes becomes harder for any individual editor to reshape. If you want to do something major to an existing article, discuss it with other editors first on the article's talk page. If you want to rewrite an article completely, you can make a user "sandbox" page to practice (almost) anything you like by clicking here: User:Levalley/Sandbox. That can be helpful for showing other editors what you have in mind, with less chance of someone deleting it out from under you. In general, the more of Wikipedia's articles you read in a given topic area, the more indications you may see that other editors did not necessarily read all the related articles - you may find contradictions, redundancies, and absences of informative links. Before editing the Anthropology article, it helps to be very familiar with what's in the related articles. Wikipedia often has extensive coverage of major fields, so it can take some study just to catch up to what's here, before you are in good position to break new ground. --Teratornis (talk) 07:57, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, guys. I have read every page in the Anthropology project that I can find, and talk pages of many of the editors. I am thinking of trying to rewrite the article completely or substantially in my sandbox, this time. Anthropology is meant to be a pgae on anthropology-in-general (which in a sense, doesn't exist, but which is always a goal in the field), there are dozens of pages that represent various subfields in anthropology, to which that page should be linked. I am indeed finding contradictions, redundancies, etc - no one's fault, just part of the process. It's exciting to try and fix it. I'll stop editing bit by bit and try my sandbox.Levalley (talk) 19:05, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How to set up disambiguation

As noted in the talk page about The Grail Movement, there is a need for disambiguation, and I'm unclear about how to go about this. The Grail Movement that is portrayed in the article is neither the only or the first Grail Movement. There is one that precedes it that is a women's organization not characterized by the inflammatory charge on the page. I would like to disambiguate the two different Grail Movements (they are completely unrelated). I can't find directions that help me to do that.

Here is verifiable information about the Grail: http://fore.research.yale.edu/religion/christianity/projects/grailville.html

02:43, 4 April 2009 (UTC)Prairiefyre (talk) 02:43, 4 April 2009 (UTC)prairiefyre[reply]

This page has the instructions for disambiguation pages. Please feel free to come back here if you need further help with this. Chamal ^talk 02:52, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

about the place

I am a volunteer from india working in indonesia, flores island, ruteng, would like to add information about ruteng, i live here more than a year, i can provide information about social, culture, entertainment, touristic places , food, staying etc., hope right now there is nothing about Ruteng, i can update information, which will be very useful for tourists when they want to visit this place. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Raviridwi (talk • contribs) 04:10, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Information included in Wikipedia must be published in reliable sources. Unfortunately information based on unpublished personal knowledge cannot be included. —teb728 t c 04:27, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

However, if you can provide written sources for the information, please do contribute. We don't have much about Ruteng; indeed, our coverage of the whole area around East Nusa Tenggara in general is poor. Please examine other articles to see the kind of information we seek, which should be neutral in point of view, not the kind of advertising calculated to attract tourists. See WP:CITE for rules on citing your sources of information in verifiable publications. --Orange Mike | Talk 04:30, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to start a new article, see Wikipedia:Your first article. —teb728 t c 05:31, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is one major exception to the "no original research" rule: you are allowed (and encouraged) to take photographs and add them to Wikimedia commons, and then add them to articles in Wikipedia. We consider Photographs to be their own reliable sources, since someone else could actually go to the location and verify them (in theory.) Please take some pictures for us. If you need help adding them to commons and thence to Wikipedia, please come back and ask -Arch dude (talk) 15:55, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

For more information about uploading images to Commons, see Commons:Commons:First steps. If you upload images from your area, you can categorize them in Commons:Category:East Nusa Tenggara. If you find Commons difficult to figure out, you can upload your images to Flickr and license them as CC-BY-SA which makes them relatively simple to upload to Commons from there. (I suspect Flickr may be somewhat easier for more people to figure out because it has about 3 billion images compared to the 4 million on Commons.) See the Indonesian Wikipedia which may have some information that nobody has translated to the English Wikipedia yet. If you are bilingual, you might consider helping with translation. --Teratornis (talk) 07:35, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How to write my something to WIKIEPEDIA?

Hello guys, I am new and confused. Can someone tell me how to add my definition into the WIKIPEDIA world, as well as description of that definition so everybody can search for it? Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by AlexanderMoroz (talk • contribs) 04:18, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

By "my definition" do you mean something new, a neologism or something you just created? Because Wikipedia is not for things made up one day. We are a reference guide to things already notable. --Orange Mike | Talk 04:24, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Even if you are talking about the definition of an established word, Wikipedia is not generally a place for definitions of words. The related dictionary project (for established words) is Wiktionary. —teb728 t c 04:35, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to start a new encyclopedic article, see Wikipedia:Your first article. —teb728 t c 05:33, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you can find an existing article where your definition of the word fits in (as part of or an improvement to an existing definition), that's always good. If you want more help, leave a note on my talk page - I'm a newbie too, but I've gotten a few articles up, sometimes we n00bs are good coaches for each other.Levalley (talk) 21:56, 19 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Request copies of files: File: Outline map metro and rail Brussels.svg and File: Metro Brussels.svg but with new lines

Hello, Is it available to copy the files: File: Outline map metro and rail Brussels.svg and File: Metro Brussels.svg but changing the lines? Why? Because on Saturday, 4 April 2009, the STIB changes its lines. Metro lines 1A, 1B and 2 give them up to 4 lines. If you do not know the new subway lines, it is these 4 new lines following:

1 Gare de l'Ouest - Stockel (purple color)
2 Simonis (Leopold II) - Simonis (Elisabeth) (orange color)
5 Erasme - Herrmann-Debroux (gold color)
6 Roi Baudouin - Simonis (Elisabeth) (steelblue color)

Info: 4 color lines such as the example of Modèle:Métro de Bruxelles (in French). Note: In addition, the station Simonis has changed its name: Simonis (Leopold II) is the station on the upper level of the station Simonis (formerly served by the line 1A), and Simonis (Elisabeth) is the station's lower level of Simonis Station (where the terminus of line 2 done). TravauxSTIB

I think the best place to discuss this would be on the Brussels metro talk page. The editors there should be more aware of the situation and the best way to approach the images. TN X Man 12:30, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How do I bring up an alphabetical list of each article I have have edited?

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I did this yesterday, and it was very easy to do, but I can't seem to duplicate it. Its very frustrating. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. KevinOKeeffe (talk) 12:21, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Try this tool which shows the articles you've created. Not sure if this is what you were looking for, but you can access this from your contributions page. The link is at the bottom of the page. Cheers. Chamal ^talk 12:55, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If your acount is set up (in preferences) to add every page you edit to your watchlist, an alphabetical list is available by clicking My watchlist > View and edit watchlist. --Kateshort forbob 16:36, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You can also see your most edited articles using this tool to see your most edited articles, but that's the closest tool of which I'm aware. If you do remember one that lists every page, let me know. hmwith τ 20:53, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Campaignbox Pakistan attacks

Pl correct this [1].yousaf465'

I don't see any obvious problem with the template. What do you want us to do? Chamal ^talk 16:29, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I wanted to add the latest attack.It's o.k.--10:32, 5 April 2009 (UTC)~~

main logo in upper left of every page ...

why is the wikipedia logo blurry?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.15.11.44 (talk) 16:44, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It looks fine to me. Is it a browser problem or display error, perhaps? Try purging your cache. tempodivalse [☎] 17:44, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

nope, just blurry. cache purged, different monitors and display resolutions ... all blurry. seems to be a theme on this site ... compared to sites like google or yahoo! this site has blurry images/logos (user uploads not included/excluded from this observation).

TROY DOUGLIN

Troy Douglin did not work for Charlton Athletic Academy in the USA he worked for BE Soccer Academy in Seattle USA.

Thanks

Stewart Brown BE Soccer Aacademy Director (phone number removed) (email removed) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.208.229.132 (talk) 19:17, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have hidden the OP's phone number and e-mail to deter abuse. NonLeagueDaily and Rushall Olympic think Troy Douglin was with Charlton. Could he have worked for both, perhaps in different years? Certes (talk) 19:33, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you have reliable sources stating that he did work for BE Soccer Academy, please add it to the article. hmwith τ 20:45, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Where should I ask for removal of full protection?

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Thanks! —Pgecaj (talk) 21:12, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WP:RPP. – ukexpat (talk) 21:18, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Question on IP block vs account

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Zoo Fari 21:24, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the time on Wikipedia, I am on a public network with a shared IP. I have decided to create my own account instead of anonymous IP editing. Today at some point, the IP on this network was blocked for editing. But it seems that my account is ok. Does this IP block in any way affect my account that is currently in good standing?Ivtv (talk) 21:44, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, you should still be able to edit via your account. As long as you didn't cause the block on the IP using the account is perfectly acceptable. GARDEN 21:59, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, I do not vandalise which is why I created the account to begin with. Thanks for clarification.

Ivtv (talk) 22:02, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you still can't login, try seeking an Wikipedia:IP block exemption.Smallman12q (talk) 13:22, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Comment to Article

Can you tell me why my edit to an article ws deleted? Isn't it appropriate for the administrator to give a reason?≈≈≈≈Grandparent

This was already addressed at User talk:Grandparent. —C.Fred (talk) 22:23, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

April 9

Request for assistance due to my own stupid mistake

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—Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:50, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks I just tried to make Template:Infobox Bibliography and it didn't go quite right:

Two sections - Pamphlets and Scripts - won't display the number, but rather their name surrounded by curly brackets
For several sections - but not all - the "link" text appears in the infobox instead of the number
When I actually inserted it into a page, the caption and image fields do not work properly, although they show up just fine in the documentation.

Clearly, I am not a templates whiz, but I was even worse at making one than I thought. If someone wants to help me fix this, I'd appreciate it. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:50, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Parameter names shouldn't have spaces in them, or you'll get trouble. Updated the template. Doc needs to reflect changes, as well as any place where the template is used. Good luck! Equendil Talk 14:58, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll have to correct myself here, parameter names are fine with spaces in them, what caused havoc was specifying the size parameter without a value. Equendil Talk 18:06, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

CAL photo transfer

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Under22Entreprenuer (talk) 22:39, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I am working on the article Capital Allocation Line (CAL), which has no pictures. However, There is a picture @ Wikimedia Commons here: [2]. I wish to transfer this file to the article. How can this be done? --Under22Entreprenuer (talk) 02:38, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Place anywhere in the article [[File:Capitalallocationline.jpg|thumb|caption text]]. For more information see Wikipedia:Images. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:40, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! --Under22Entreprenuer (talk) 02:43, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Anytime.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:44, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, so I added the photo. Any other suggestions? --Under22Entreprenuer (talk) 02:48, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I moved the article to Capital allocation line - sentence case in accordance with Wikipedia's naming conventions - did a little more clean up of the formatting, and added a stub template. – ukexpat (talk) 15:24, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou ukexpat for doing do!--Under22Entreprenuer (talk) 22:39, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion to make 'cancel' button more noticeable for newbies

Hi, Is this the right place to make a technical-ish suggestion?
Mine is as follows:
When I was first using Wikipedia (it can be overwhelmingly confusing at first if you're not used to looking at lots of mark-up!) I used to accidentally miss the cancel button quite frequently, and sometimes ended up clicking on 'save page' or 'show preview' instead! (Then having to undo it, I think. It's all a bit of a blur, honestly, but I know I kept missing the cancel button.) So I think it might be helpful if the cancel button was as noticeable as the 'save page' and 'show preview' buttons. Probably leave it where it is, but perhaps change the color to red or pink or something &/or put it in a box like the 3 currently to its left? Just a thought. Thanks very much. (p.s. Wikipedia is great! I love it! Go Wikipedia!)--Tyranny Sue (talk) 03:10, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sue. A better place for this is at the proposals section of the Village Pump. We answer questions here mostly and the page I referred you to is exactly for suggestions such as this. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:38, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Can you tell us why you didn't you just navigate away from the page instead of hitting a button to avoid a save? - Mgm|^(talk) 10:35, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think I got quite confused & overwhelmed by all the new info (mark-up, boxes, symbols, etc) that I kind of panicked or something. (It was a steep learning curve for me, I guess. Yes, I was, & possibly still am, a total mark-up reetard.)--Tyranny Sue (talk) 02:59, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- I think Sue is making a good point that may explain a portion of the non-malicious but otherwise bad edits by newcomers. It's possible that some non-technical newcomers are afraid that they will delete an article they are editing if they don't save it. ike9898 (talk)

The word "save" has a somewhat different implication on Wikipedia than on most other application software people are used to. This can certainly confuse the new user. It's too bad we don't conduct Wikipedia training classes with live or videoconferenced human teachers in every town. A glance at Special:ListUsers shows that only a tiny percentage of our 47,909,007 registered users have managed more than a few edits. Evidently the new user faces a very high hurdle to get started here. However, a comment to the original poster: from reading between the lines in your suggestion, it sounds as if you were making test edits to Wikipedia and previewing them. This is fine, but to avoid the accidental save problem, it's best to make your test edits in what we call the "sandbox", or in your own user subpage. For example, you could make your own user sandbox by clicking this link: User:Tyranny Sue/Sandbox, and then edit and save (almost) whatever you like, without fear of wrecking someone else's work. --Teratornis (talk) 18:43, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that, Ike9898 & Teratornis. I never really understood how the sandbox was supposed to work & assumed I wouldn't be able to save my work there (thinking it was like a communal page or something - I just realised that this assumption of mine was based on how a 'sandbox' in a mud game I used to play worked). Maybe if the sentence "For testing, please use the sandbox instead" said "your sandbox", that might help with that? (Assuming I understand it correctly now.)--Tyranny Sue (talk) 03:13, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The sandbox Teatronis is talking about is a private sandbox at a subpage of your userspace. It sounds like you may be thinking that this is the same as the Wikipedia:Sandbox; that is a public sandbox which is cleared every 12 hours and other users will be overwriting your material with their own test edits, which will not happen in a sandbox you make in your userspace. Any material you made in the public sandbox can be retrieved using the page history, but you will not be able to build a stable version of anything there given the overwriting.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:23, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

James Cawley

I have tried to add corrections to James Cawley page and at this point the article is locked. When I showed proof, I was told it was not good enough. Now I found an article where James Cawley himself says that he is an extra in the new Star Trek movie and the same person will not add it. Will someone unblock the article or add that James Cawley is an extra in the new Star Trek movie. His statement can be found at:

http://trekmovie.com/2008/11/12/editorial-james-cawley-on-the-new-star-trek-movie/

121. James Cawley - November 12, 2008 To those of you who feel I have sold out etc. You are dead wrong. NO ONE loves The Orignal Star Trek more than me. No one is more devoted to it’s look and feel, for Christ’s sake, I own a full scale bridge set and play Kirk in my spare time! I have poured more of my life into classic Trek than I care to discuss. Being an extra in the film has nothing to do with my opinion either.173.55.27.133 (talk) 11:54, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No. I, and I dare say most regulars here will agree with the multiple users who have reverted your edits and explained to you the requirement that you cite to reliable sources (not blogs or fan wikis) that verify the information you are seeking to add and remove from this article. This is all the more true since the content you are pushing is to some extent negative and the article is a biography of a living person. Please also see WP:BURDEN ("The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material. All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be attributed to a reliable, published source using an inline citation") and Wikipedia:Canvassing regarding your appeal to people here.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:21, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Article about a greek author

Dear Wikipedians

I would like to ask you if it is acceptable to write an article about a greek Author. He has received various awarsd for his work but his books are not translated. Is this something that can be included in the english Wikipedia?

Thanks in advance Jianmarin (talk) 12:44, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. TN X Man 12:50, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also note that the inclusion guidelines for English Wikipedia do not depend on the language of the sources. If someone is notable in Greek, he is also notable in English. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:24, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tables

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– Zoo Fari 22:41, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I've looked everywhere, but how can I get tables to sit next to each other? Currently If I use wiki markup they automatically go underneath each other like this:

Table 1
row 1
row 2

Table 2
row 1
row 2

I want them like this:

Table 1	Table 2
row 1, Table 1	row 1, Table 2
row 2, Table 1	row 2, Table 2

But as two separate tables. Thanks in advance VJ (talk) 13:29, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's not terribly orthodox, but you can achieve that using "div" HTML markers to encapsulate your tables, I edited your sandbox for an example. Equendil Talk 14:11, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, you can just set the styles directly in the table headers, updated the sandbox. Equendil Talk 14:16, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Table 1
row 1
row 2

Table 2
row 1
row 2

You can also use a blank column which is quite inelegant in table code like so -

Table 1		Table 2
row 1, Table 1		row 1, Table 2
row 2, Table 1		row 2, Table 2

Nanonic (talk) 14:13, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks guys VJ (talk) 15:21, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Patrolling new pages, second opinion

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Thank you! Thrane (talk) 23:49, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

When patrolling new pages, I sometimes need a second opinion before taking direct action, e.g. proposing for deletion. Is there anyway I can tag an article so other editors know a second opinion is needed before marking as patrolled, or should I simply leave the article unpatrolled, taking no further action? --Thrane (talk) 14:29, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My feeling is, if you're not sure what (if any) action needs to be taken, then take none. If you leave it unpatrolled, another patroller will come along. Arakunem^Talk 14:38, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That said, there's usually no harm in placing a maintenance template on an article if you're not sure what to do. That's part of what New Page Patrol is anyway... not always delete-or-keep. If you think an article may not be notable, but aren't sure if you should prod or csd, then tag with {{notability}}, for example, which states there may be an issue, but doesn't call for its outright deletion. A full list of those sort of templates can be found at Wikipedia:Templates#Article-related_namespace. Hope this helps! Arakunem^Talk 14:43, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The fairly general {{cleanup}} tag may serve your purpose.Livewireo (talk) 20:43, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Army CAC Card

Hi,

Would you please let me know where we go to fill this form and how we get the card.

Your help is really appricated

Regards Fahrudin Nuhic —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sidekick002 (talk • contribs) 14:55, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps.Arakunem ^Talk 15:01, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Editing the TITLE of an article

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– TN X Man 15:27, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The following article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Brothers_and_Sisters_of_Canada

should be entered as "Big Brothers Big Sisters of Canada"

("Big Sisters" not "and Sisters")

I cannot see a way to correct the title. The title as-is makes the search term "Big Brothers Big Sisters of Canada" come up blank.

Can anyone help with this change or explain how to make the change?

ref: http://www.bigbrothersbigsisters.ca website —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.124.199.68 (talk) 15:15, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You click on "move" at the top of the page, but I'm not sure you can do it without creating an account. TastyCakes (talk) 15:18, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Correct, in order to rename a page, you have to "Move" it to the new title. As an un-registered user, you do not have that button. I went ahead and moved it for you. Please confirm that all is well with the new title. The old title will redirect to the new, in case anyone does search for the old title. Thanks! Arakunem^Talk 15:19, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much guys. I feel a little bad as I found the Help area about being logged in to MOVE the page in order to change the title (after I posted this). By the time I created my account, you'd already fixed it! Talk about a fast response!—Preceding unsigned comment added by BBBSC (talk • contribs)

The article needs work, please see the issues tags that I have added. – ukexpat (talk) 15:30, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wierd things happening when I edit

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– tempodivalse [☎] 19:56, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

For several months two things have been happening when I edit an article:

sometimes when I paste text into an edit window, the pasted text is in a huge font
sometimes when I'm working in and edit window, the cursor will disappear and I can't type; this problem is resolved (at least temporarily) by hitting preview

This has happened on three different computers, so I think it's a problem local to the machine I'm using. Ever heard of these problems? ike9898 (talk) 16:15, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You probably have WikED enabled. To disable, you can either remove the gadget by going to your preferences > gadgets > editing gadgets and uncheck the box or just by simply clicking on the icon at the top right corner next to "log out". I would do the second method because it allows you to enable it the same way when you need it. Zoo Fari 16:38, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, this is one of the side effects of WikiEd. If you want to avoid the big text when you paste stuff, just remove the space at the very beginning of the text you pasted and things should be back to normal (at least that's been my experience with it). As ZooFari said above, if you want to temporarily disable it, just click the WikiEd logo at the top of the screen, near the "log out" button. Hoped this helped, tempodivalse [☎] 15:24, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

PhD dissertation

Who is the publisher of a dissertation? The individual or the university? I suppose originally the author, but if it is now hosted on that university's website, is it them? Grsz¹¹ 17:14, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I guess you are asking what to put in the publisher parameter of a citation template such as {{Cite web}}. Before citing the dissertation, try searching for refereed journal papers by the same author, which sometimes you can find by searching with {{Google scholar cite}} and then cite with {{Cite journal}}. If the material in the dissertation has not appeared in a journal, then I guess you could use the university as the publisher. This probably isn't a big deal. The publisher parameter is optional, and lots of editors omit it, although I agree it's better to include a citation parameter if you know the value. Having more complete citations makes them easier to repair in the case of link rot. --Teratornis (talk) 18:30, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why was the Declaration of Independence written in the first place?

Please put answer in fourth grade form of understanding. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.195.30.159 (talk) 18:01, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. This is the Wikipedia Help Desk, where we answer questions on using Wikipedia. While we would typically refer you to the Reference Desk, your question appears to be a homework question, and they will not do your homework for you. You may wish to read our article on the United States Declaration of Independence to answer your question or head on over to the Simple Wikipedia and search there. If you have any other questions, please let us know! Livewireo (talk) 18:12, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

But please note, we will not do your homework for you. – ukexpat (talk) 18:19, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please do your own homework. Welcome to the Wikipedia Help desk. Your question appears to be a homework question. I apologize if this is a misevaluation, but it is our policy here to not do people's homework for them, but to merely aid them in doing it themselves. Letting someone else do your homework does not help you learn how to solve such problems.

Please attempt to solve the problem yourself first. You can search Wikipedia or search the Web.

If you need help with a specific part of your homework, the Reference desk can help you grasp the concept. Do not ask knowledge questions here, just those about using Wikipedia. Math Cool 10 ^{Sign here!} 00:18, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Simple English Wikipedia article at simple:United States Declaration of Independence. Math Cool 10 ^{Sign here!} 18:31, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

missing links to files

here on this page 1900 Summer Olympics medal_table there is a missing picture of the mexico flag..which is here..[File:Flag of Mexico.svg] and I want to repair it.. how do you do something like this?(Off2riorob (talk) 18:08, 9 April 2009 (UTC))[reply]

It looks like this version would be acceptable, as far as I can tell from some quick research. Grsz¹¹ 18:15, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually all those flags are produced by the {{flagIOCteam}} template. There is no documentation for that template so I have no idea how to fix it. Maybe the Olympics Wikiproject folks can help. – ukexpat (talk) 18:18, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A little drilling down indicates that {{flagIOCteam}} is just a wrapper that calls individual templates for each country. In this case you evidently need to edit {{Country flag IOC alias MEX}}. The template code looks straightforward, as it has an entry for a flag file name for each Olympic year. --Teratornis (talk) 18:22, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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thanks..not really sure how but it works.(Off2riorob (talk) 18:37, 9 April 2009 (UTC))[reply]

To understand how it works, you would need to read Help:Template and possibly some of the help pages it links to. Template coding on Wikipedia can be difficult to learn if you have not previously learned another programming language. If you are an experienced computer programmer, then template coding on Wikipedia is fairly straightforward, once you get used to the extremely compact syntax. Most modern programming languages are designed to be easier for humans to read, by using wordier structured programming constructs. Wikitext chops everything down to the fewest possible characters. This makes wikitext easier to type fast (the word "wiki" means "quick"), but not always so pretty to read. --Teratornis (talk) 18:52, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

thank you User:Teratornis I'll have a little read of those links to understand a bit more (Off2riorob (talk) 19:02, 9 April 2009 (UTC))[reply]

The {{flagIOCteam}} template in this situation illustrates how on Wikipedia, we simulate having subroutine calls by making one template transclude other templates. If you examine the source of the {{flagIOCteam}} template, you can see how the template uses its parameter values to construct the name of the country-specific template to transclude (i.e. "call" in most other programming languages) to get the name of the flag file for the country and year. There are several layers of abstraction going on here, so it's sure to be confusing. Unfortunately, we don't have a template debugger, which you could use to "single step" through each transclusion and parameter substitution. If you learn a scripting language such as Perl, the debugger is a vital tool for observing how a computer executes a Perl script, step by step. For more about templates, see the links under WP:EIW#Template, and don't expect this to make sense quickly. Computer science is a highly developed profession, like engineering, medicine, law, etc. However, to get started with computer science, all you need is a computer, some spare time, and the willingness to read manuals and try stuff. I recommend keeping notes on a user subpage with links to what you are studying, otherwise you are likely to overwhelm your short term memory if you try to do it all in your head. --Teratornis (talk) 19:12, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resending question on uploading map of K street

I feel the article on K street, Washington DC should have a map. I slightly edited a small section of MapQuest as a .JPG file, but I am unable to upload it or even send it to someone who is allowed to do so. I've kept the MapQuest logo on the map : does that still violate any copyrights? What's the position? 19:31, 9 April 2009 (UTC)19:31, 9 April 2009 (UTC)~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Piercan (talk • contribs)

The Mapquest website bears a copyright notice (©2009 MapQuest, Inc. All rights reserved.), so yes, irrespective the presence of the logo, I think it would be a copyvio. – ukexpat (talk) 20:15, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean unable to upload are you sure you saved it to your PC, if you haven't it can't be uploaded... Assuming you do have the file, you have to go to either Wikipedia:Upload or Special:Upload and use that to upload the file. But before doing that, I suggest you read Wikipedia's copyright policy and non free content policy. I hope this helps. 143.43.10.143 (talk) 20:20, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What 143.43.10.143 says is generally how you upload an image to Wikipedia. But since your image is non-free, and since as a map it is replaceable with a free map, Wikipedia cannot accept it. —teb728 t c 20:42, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why don't you use OpenStreetMap instead? That's a collection of free street maps. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:21, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How do I make a quotation box?

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– TN X Man 20:53, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to create a box with a quote in it. I would like the regular text of the article to be printed around it. Where can I find out how to do this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nbahn (talk • contribs) 19:42, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

--NBahn (talk) 19:44, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think you may be referring to <blockquote>, which does pretty much exactly what it says. You can see more at Help:Wikitext examples. TN X Man 19:49, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the info!
--NBahn (talk) 20:50, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Additional information on existing widipedia site

This site (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Saunders) mentions Clarence Saunders' patent for a self-service grocery store.

I know of a lawsuit filed by Piggly Wiggly Stores, to whom Sauders assigned his patent rights.

I know the details surrounding that suit, including its outcome. However, the only source for my information is word of mouth from my father, who was the founder and majority holder in the defendant coroporation. He is now deceased.

Is this source of information sufficient to tell the story as an addition to the above Wikipedia site? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Manerewski (talk • contribs) 19:51, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, no. Wikipedia only properly publishes material that is able to be checked by our readers against already published sources. The policy for this is at Wikipedia:Verifiability. However, many lawsuits leave quite a paper trail in their wake. Sometimes this is accessible to the public, and sometimes it is not. If you were to post to the article's talk page, disclosing when the lawsuit was commenced, in what court and where, a user might be able to dig up a reliable source that is accessible. Note, though, that just because information exists doesn't necessarily mean it belongs in the article. One policy that speaks to this is WP:WEIGHT. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 19:59, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How

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– ukexpat (talk) 20:11, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Do I cite a book? Which template do I use? 143.43.10.143 (talk) 20:02, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I believe {{cite book}} is the template for which you are looking. TN X Man 20:04, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your assistance. 143.43.10.143 (talk) 20:06, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Height of a table

Hi,
I would like to know if it's possible to fix the height of a table (or a cell) without filling someting inside the cell ? Thanks. — Riba ^(talk) 20:45, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

For me it usually works to include & nbsp ; in the empty cell (a non-breaking space)? Get rid of the spaces and you should have an empty cell with the same height as the one next to it. - Mgm|^(talk) 20:56, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
adding something like style="height:100px" to the table/cell markers should do the trick. Example (table forced to 200 pixels, first raw to 100 pixels):

Table

Equendil Talk 21:04, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank! But I want to do is to put a table in another table and to fix the height of the little one at 100% of the space of the cell. As if in this table I wanted that the cell "a" took all the place :

a

b

c

— Riba ^(talk) 21:13, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is no HTML or style to do it . . . but you can make it look like it is happening, for example(?):

Table

Inner Table
a1	a2	a3	a4

b1

c

b2

b3

If you cannot get the above to work in your context, create some more explanation here and I will see what I can do. Peet Ern (talk) 13:24, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Broken links in an article

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Spotter223 (talk) 20:25, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If I find a link that is broken, what is the proper way to fix it? Edit it and remove it, or somehow note the broken link (possibly using strikeout) and allow others to test the validity of the link before removing it in the event it is a local and not a global situation? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spotter223 (talk • contribs) 22:40, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fix it. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 22:41, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If the webpage existed a few months ago or earlier, you could link to its archive on the Wayback Machine. There's also the possibility that the external website has been reorganised. If so, you might be able to search for the new URL or an equivalent page to be linked instead. Otherwise, just remove the link. Tra (Talk) 23:07, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you are talking about links to external websites then you can follow the guidelines at Wikipedia:Dead external links and WP:DEADREF, for dead internal links see Wikipedia:Red link. Nanonic (talk) 23:10, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your responses! I made the corrections using the Dead Link and Wayback templates. Great advise! Spotter223 (talk) 20:25, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

sabotage

i am trying to find a new job and i think my ex employer is sabotaging my future applications. i need to find articles on this issue —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tbutterfly (talk • contribs) 23:03, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is an encyclopedia. You won't find how-to articles or methods/tips to deal with personal problems. See Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not Zoo Fari 23:06, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Interestingly, Fred Brooks wrote about what he calls "negatively productive people" and advised employers to place such people with competing companies (a strategy similar to Fidel Castro's Mariel boatlift). Conversely, if your ex-employer is trying to sabotage your applications to other companies, and if your ex-employer is as smart as Fred Brooks and Fidel Castro, perhaps your ex-employer sees you as an asset of such great value that they don't want you to be helping the competition. That's what you might mention in job interviews. Why else would your ex-employer not want you to work for the competition? --Teratornis (talk) 06:29, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Problem with Template:Convert/to(-)/AonSoffAnd

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You have a problem with Template:Convert/to(-)/AonSoffAnd in Sea of Azov#Hydrology and hydrochemistry. I don't know what that template does so I can't fix it. Thanks, someone from the Hebrew Wikipedia :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.179.22.124 (talk) 23:45, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed, thank you. Equendil Talk 23:51, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

April 10

Help

I was look for a title called "old Man Logan" I found it while ago but not I can;t find it. And the one that shwoing up dose not match what I saw... Do u have any idea why or if I can see it? I didn't make it I was readiing it tho. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.68.56.27 (talk) 00:20, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was look for something I was reading called "old Man Logan" And the page that show up now is not the page I was reading. Is their anyway u can help? I didn't make the page.... A fan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.68.56.27 (talk) 00:24, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The article formerly at Old Man Logan was merged into Alternate versions of Wolverine#Old Man Logan. The last version of the article can be seen here. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:05, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RFC: Notability of free open source software

Wikipedia is currently missing a standard of notability for free open source software. I wrote a proposal at Wikipedia:Notability/RFC:Notability of free open source software and would welcome your comments. Thank you, Dandv (talk) 04:48, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the invitation. ZooFari 05:35, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

hOW TO SELECT SOLID STATE RELAYS

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hOW TO SELECT SOLID STATE RELAYS —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.246.215.5 (talk) 06:16, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You might want to try at the reference desk, since this page is only for help on using wikipedia. And btw, you might want to make your question a little more clearer there. Cheers. Chamal ^talk 06:34, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

To make the question clearer you need to state your project requirements, such as what type of circuit you are building, and where you are going to install it. Our Solid state relay article lists some advantages and disadvantages that you can compare to your project requirements. If this is a homework question and you are earning a degree to equip yourself for professional work, then it would probably be a good idea to learn some search skills along the way. For example, if you are studying to be an engineer, an engineer should know how to look up answers to questions like this. Often you can type questions straight into Google and get useful answers. --Teratornis (talk) 06:38, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

web technology

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hi..... i need an answer for this qeston pls help me out. What is meant by ditributed database?mention the advantages and disadvantages of it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.241.141.31 (talk) 06:51, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This forum is for questions about using Wikipedia. You might find some information in the distributed database article. Otherwise they may point you to an answer at the Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing. They answer general knowledge questions there, but they will not do your homework for you. —teb728 t c 07:20, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Our article about a Distributed database may also be of use. TNXMan 13:14, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Image upload

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– ZenerV (talk) 17:15, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Could someone please upload [3] (taken from http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/apr/10/darwin-egg-cambridge) to Tinamou egg of Darwin's collection ? Thank You.

-ZenerV —Preceding unsigned comment added by ZenerV (talk • contribs) 09:00, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly not! That's a copyrighted image. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:12, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This post is great because I learned a new word by visiting the link. "Cackhandedly". Cool word. (Admitted word nerd→) Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:39, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

We Brits have plenty of colourful words like that. As a word nerd, this link comparing US and British usages may make you chuckle! – ukexpat (talk) 17:48, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the response..the page can live without the image then.

-ZenerV

Actually, you can upload copyrighted images under some circumstances, for example if the copyright owner agrees to release the photograph under a suitably Free license, you can follow the procedure in Commons:COM:OTRS to verify and archive the copyright holder's written permission, and upload the image to Commons. But first, you might search on Commons to see if someone else has already uploaded that image, or another photograph of the same egg. See Commons:Category:University of Cambridge. If the egg is going on public display in a museum, someone might photograph it and upload the image to Commons. You can search for Commons users who self-report as living in the general area, who might take requests for photographs. The University Museum of Zoology Cambridge Web site displays a copyright notice; it is unfortunate that institutions which historically existed to discover and disseminate knowledge have often not yet embraced Copyleft. --Teratornis (talk) 20:48, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

dots in pagenames

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I am setting up a new MediaWiki site and would like to allow people to create a page for their business domain, the trouble I'm having is I can not create a page with the "." in it, for example "pagename" works fine but "pagename.com" does not, obviously your site has overcome this obstacle with MediaWiki, Do you know how this was solved? if not you who else would be the best person to ask, thanks for your help with this Njec1979 (talk) 15:45, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think setting up a new project in the MediaWiki is up to the founders. ZooFari 16:53, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I think the poster is asking how he can create page names that include a dot (like Pets.com) on his own Wiki. I'm not sure how it's done, however, the village pump would probably have the answer. TNXMan 17:40, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Questions about running your own MediaWiki wiki belong on mw:Project:Support desk, although unfortunately that page is not always as responsive as this one. Many answers are in mw:Manual:FAQ, but I don't see an answer to this particular question there. The {{Help desk searches}} template includes some {{Google custom}} searches that are useful for MediaWiki administrators, namely:

The above two sites have lots of information about MediaWiki, and the MediaWiki site administrator must become adept at searching them. Also see the links under WP:EIW#MediaWiki. The second search leads to mw:Manual:$wgLegalTitleChars which does not list the period character as being one of the illegal characters for a page title. Thus I do not understand why you cannot create a page with a period character in the title. Check your LocalSettings.php to see if you have set this restriction somehow. --Teratornis (talk) 19:54, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: if any of the above answers seem confusing or do not apply to your situation, that's because this Help desk is for questions about using Wikipedia (namely, the English Wikipedia). The Wikimedia Foundation gives away the MediaWiki software that powers Wikipedia, so anyone can set up their own wiki. The similarity between such wikis and Wikipedia can create confusion when someone asks questions about them here, because our Help desk volunteers are thinking first about Wikipedia specifically, and then secondarily about other Wikimedia Foundation wikis. If your wiki is completely outside the WF project family, then you are largely on your own - but there is a lot of documentation online, see my reply above. --Teratornis (talk) 20:10, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The solution to having a ShortURL and allowing pages with dots in them (example: http://yourwiki.com/pagename.com)

Hopefully this will help someone out there with the same problem, simply do the following

Create a .htaccess file and upload it to the root of your mediawiki:

 RewriteEngine On
 RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
 RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
 RewriteRule ^(.*)$ /index.php?title=$1 [L,QSA]

Add these few lines to the localsettings.php file:

 $wgScriptPath           = ""; 
 $wgScript               = "$wgScriptPath/index.php";
 $wgRedirectScript       = "$wgScriptPath/redirect.php";
 $wgArticlePath          = "$wgScriptPath/$1";
 $wgUsePathInfo = false;

Thank you to the people that tried to help me, it was greatly appreciated :D Njec1979 (talk) 04:37, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Font family?

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– ZooFari 16:55, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif" is one of the codings I use to construct my talk page. But I hate the Trebuchet MS, and would prefer something else. Is there actually a list for this? -- A ^talk/_contribs 15:48, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Web-safe fonts has a list. You can theoretically use any font but not all will show up on everyone's PC. GARDEN 16:14, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, very much. -- A ^talk/_contribs 16:18, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My Wiki is not found on the internet!

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– ZooFari 16:57, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am a Wiki Noob, and i know nothing about how to navagate Wikipedia or how t works! I created a new Wiki for Bow Ever Down by trial and error and it is under the talk page and in the project page too, I cant see my results when i search fir "Bow Ever Down"

what did i do wrong? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bow Ever Down (talk • contribs) 15:56, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This was a spamusername; the only edits were to create an advertising for this "dark electronic [music] project" on the user and talk pages. Blocked; notified; ads deleted. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:12, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

To the original poster: you may want to check the Alternative outlets or look on the Music category of WikiIndex for other wikis which may accept your work. --Teratornis (talk) 20:26, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Update main information - need help

I'm looking for help on updating my company's listing on Wikipedia. For example, in the main section, it has wrong information for our CEO and such. When I click the "edit" button, it only let's me start editing in the "recent awards" section. Does anyone have a tip for me on how to administer company fact changes / updates? Your help would be appreciated! TrailerParkContent2009 (talk)Kim —Preceding undated comment added 16:57, 10 April 2009 (UTC). -[reply]

You are clicking "edit" in the section. To edit the whole page, you must click the "edit" tab located at the top of the page. ZooFari 17:00, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cannot connect to En Wikipedia

My home computer will connect to the non-English versions, but not to English. This started happening a few months ago; attempts to connect since then are NEVER successful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.186.35.11 (talk) 17:35, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How curious. What did you do to connect in order to post this question? TNXMan 17:39, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hehe :) ZooFari 17:49, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean that you have an account but cannot log in? Did you forget your password? – ukexpat (talk) 17:52, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Since the questioner posted the question from a computer at Iowa State University, it is very likely that the computer the questioner is using is not the questioner's "home computer". Problems like this are usually the result of settings in the hosts file (lhosts on Windows, I believe) or a firewall program. Neither are easy to troubleshoot without physical access to the computer. -- kainaw ™ 17:58, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

An editing icon

One of the editing icons above is Embedded file. I would expect that to be an internal link to a text file, presumably another Wikipedia page, one which I wish to construct. Please advise on the purpose and use of this icon.Doctorbas (talk) 17:51, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This button is normally used to embed an image into a page. For example, [[File:Face-smile.svg]] will produce this image:

If you want to make a hyperlink to another Wikipedia page, use [[Example|link text]] which will produce link text. Tra (Talk) 18:01, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. You have resolved my query. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doctorbas (talk • contribs) 08:43, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No access to archive picture

I just saw I couldn't access the old pictures on File:Kandinsky_WWI.jpg. ([4] & [5]). Perhaps accessrights aren't set well for the english picture-archive? Note: I came from nl-wp; It could take a very long time for me to come back here... Sumurai8 (talk) 19:10, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mistake

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– ZooFari 19:31, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I made a mistake on Icredibad, please don't kick me it was a mistake, thank you. :D —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.248.81.10 (talk) 19:21, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've reverted it so you should be able to try again (don't forget to use the "preview" button). Cheers :) - Kingpin13 (talk) 19:23, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In the future, if you want to undo you an edit you just made, i.e. if it was a mistake, you can simply go to the "history" tab at the top of the article you edited and then hit the "undo" button that should be at the top line in the list of recent edits. Then, save the article. Everything should be back to the way it was before. Hope this helped, tempodivalse [☎] 03:09, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mahjong Titans

I want to purchase this game...is that possible? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sublettbf (talk • contribs) 19:23, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it is possible, but only if you aren't broke. But it is impossible to purchase here at the help desk. It is only for questions on Wikipedia. ZooFari 19:32, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Mahjong Titans article says the game comes with Windows Vista, for example the Home Edition. Therefore, one way to purchase this game would be to buy a copy of Windows Vista. That's easy enough to do at any computer store of the bricks and mortar or online shopping variety. Assuming you have enough money. --Teratornis (talk) 03:32, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unable to create an Acrobat copy of any Wikipedia article

There are many times when I would like to be able to download an article from Wikipedia into Adobe Acrobat. When I attempt this action on the Wikipedia website, I receive a "General Error" message and my attempts are therefore unsuccessful. I suppose I could print the article, but that seems like a waste of resources. What do you suggest? Noatakkobuk (talk) 21:58, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If the PDF version in the sidebar fails, you could try PrimoPDF, cutePDF or pdf995 as a sort of fake printer drivers to "print" a PDF file to your harddrive. I use the first of the programs I've listed. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:32, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Request copies of file: File:Outline map metro and rail Brussels.svg and file:Metro Brussels.svg but with the new metro lines

Hello, Now that the file: File:Outline map metro and rail Brussels.svg has been modified, it remains only to change the file: File:Metro Brussels.svg by changing the lines as an example of the file: File:Outline map metro and rail Brussels.svg. TravauxSTIB —Preceding undated comment added 22:21, 10 April 2009 (UTC).[reply]

You can make your request easier for other people to understand by linking the images you refer to:

You should be able to make these changes yourself by editing the second image with an SVG editor such as Inkscape and uploading a new revision. If you don't know how to do that, you might find some help by seeing the links under Commons:COM:EIC#Inkscape. You could also leave a request on the talk page of one of the Wikimedia Commons users in the File history section of Commons:File:Metro Brussels.svg who have uploaded revisions of the image. Clearly, at least one of those users is editing the SVG file. --Teratornis (talk) 03:47, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Improvement of a just created article

Hello. I have just created the article UCC-1 financing statement minutes ago. it is still on the requested business/finance articles page. As you will note, it still has the underconstruction template on the page. Is there any way to improve this article? And while you're viewing it, please add the necessary invesment stub templates and other signs. Oh and by the way: I am getting off the internet in a couple minutes, so don't expect an answer till tommarrow. Thanks a bunch. --Under22Entreprenuer (talk) 23:20, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

chicken chops

MY STEP DAUGHTER,RECENTLY PURCHASED, CHICKEN CHOPS. SHE ASKED ME HOW TO COOK THEM ,I SAID I NEVER HEARD OF OF SUCH A THING. COULD PLEASE ADVISE. THANK YOU . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.20.145.250 (talk) 23:32, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you type chicken chops into Google, you'll get several different recipes that may be useful. Also, please don't type in block capitals as it comes across as shouting on the internet. Tra (Talk) 23:39, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Are there actually Internet users who get upset when they see someone who is obviously new to computers typing in all caps? If someone is not aware that someone else might think they are "shouting," then most likely they weren't shouting. On Wikipedia we assume good faith, which in the case of CAPSLOCK would be to read it as if it were proper case. --Teratornis (talk) 03:24, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'd think the person typing in lower case was NOT upset, while the person typing in ALL CAPS WAS UPSET. That's just the way most of us read, on teh internets. Anyway, I think it's nice to let new people know how they come across, especially here on the HALP page. But, to me, Tra came across only as instructive, not upset.Levalley (talk) 16:57, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What is proper case? The whole point of capital letters is that they should be used only sparingly. I can't imagine any sort of situation in regular conversation where it would be appropriate. If the person doesn't know about the shouting thing, they're still using bad spelling and grammar. - Mgm|^(talk) 07:48, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

April 11

Putting a dot on a map

I would appreciate greatly help concerning a technical issue. I'm trying to make infoboxes on windmills, but I've got the problem that even if I have the coordinates I don't know how to place it on a map of Norfolk incorcopated in the infobox. See Lambridge Mill. The awnser is obviously fulling indications map_locator_x and map_locator_y. Could somebody help me explaining the nature of the process, possibly with practical illustrations (I can be quite dense when it comes to technical issues)? Thanks in advance for any help that can be provided!--Aldux (talk) 01:31, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Did you read the instructions at Template:Geobox/legend#Maps? --Teratornis (talk) 03:28, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Even after losing my mind on it, I hadn't been able to find it; I've found this: "Semi-automated locator dot. The map field contains background map, whereas locator_x and locator_y contain relative coordinates of the locator dot (as a percent of the map width, inserted without the % symbol), this system can be used when the map is not (or cannnot be) calibrated for the automated locator dot." Unfortunately, I don't get how the latitude and longitude I know translates in a 1-100 x number and a 1-100 y number. I tried to simply put lat and long numbers in its place, but the mill ends well in the Atlantic Ocean; and I don't think it's a coordinates problem, as the grid sends me just a few metres from the item in question. I just don't get how to materialize the words "relative location dot position in percent of the map width, without the "%" symbol". Any ideas?--Aldux (talk) 13:20, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How to file request to have current content removed?

Silly question perhaps as im not one to complain, but i really need this answered so i can bring awareness to the fact that there is a picture of a suicide scene( which is real, and was released as the cover of a bootleg cd of the band "Mayhem") and thought that would widely be considered unnacceptable for such a website... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Michaelk1992 (talk • contribs) 01:32, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Dawn of the Black Hearts already has some discussion of this issue. I was shocked to see that some of it is rather incivil as I would expect only collegial behavior from death metal fans (right?). See WP:NOTCENSORED and WP:NOSEE. While I cannot predict the outcome of a particular discussion on Wikipedia, I can tell you that Wikipedia displays a number of images that are exceedingly offensive to large numbers of people (for example, our Depictions of Muhammad). This does not mean anything goes; a particular offensive image must have some sort of encyclopedic value to remain here. Since almost all album covers are under copyright, one possible (longshot) way to remove this image (and almost all other album covers) would be to persuade the English Wikipedia to adopt the no fair-use images policy of Wikimedia Commons. However, that debate has been raging for years so it would probably be hard to shift the present consensus. Depending on how motivated you are to pursue this, see WP:EIW#Dispute for lots of links to documents that describe the dispute-resolution machinery on Wikipedia. Wikipedia has lots of arguments about lots of things, so I wouldn't underestimate the possible complexity of getting the outcome you want here. --Teratornis (talk) 02:47, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Silly image use quesiton

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– tempodivalse [☎] 16:25, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Another editor has received permission from a photographer to use a picture on Wikipedia but nowhere else. I have looked around the image and copyright pages but cannot find if this is OK and if so what the correct tag(s). Any help or even just pointing me to another page for this question is much appreciated.Cptnono (talk) 01:36, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The question is not silly; it goes to the heart of what Wikipedia is all about. Restricting re-use of images uploaded to Wikipedia is contrary to Wikipedia's mission to be a source of free content. Wikipedia gets mirrored and redistributed widely. The Wikimedia Foundation and its commercial partners republish Wikipedia's content in several forms, for example as low-cost CDs and DVDs for use in low-income areas where Internet access is scarce (for example, much of Africa). Placing arbitrary restrictions on content uploaded to Wikipedia interferes with Wikipedia's mission, which is to (eventually) make a free encyclopedia available to every person in their own language, and not every person has Internet access. It would be much better for the photographer to release the photo under a free license such as CC-BY-SA. See File:BD-propagande-2 (en).jpg for the cartoon version of the above information. --Teratornis (talk) 02:34, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And see Wikipedia:Non-free content if the photographer will not release the image under a free license. --Teratornis (talk) 02:50, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the assistance!Cptnono (talk) 07:05, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bulbs

Hi help desk, I have been reading about Plants, when I got to this article I noticed it has a tag that was placed on it way back in 2007. Is this tag still nessesary? And should it be updated?--Slateglass (talk) 01:38, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the tag is still necessary because the reference section doesn't have any sources yet. SeeWP:REFERENCE. ZooFari 01:56, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is it useful to blank a page before it gets deleted?

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– ZooFari 07:33, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Many of the articles that are created daily do not meet our criteria of notability; therefore, a user places a tag, after which an administrator removes the article. Until then, however, the article is part of Wikipedia, and as such it can be read by people, and ultimately confuse them. Since users like me cannot delete these articles, but only request deletion by putting the appropriate tag, I was wondering if blanking such articles is (a) allowed, and (b) useful. --Pgecaj (talk) 03:53, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It depends. If you are the creator of the article, you can just blank it or request speedy deletion by the author using {{db-g7}}. However, blanking pages that were made by other users aren't appropriate. Not blanking helps keep the data as evidence that it supports the speedy tag. ZooFari 03:58, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your answer ZooFari! --Pgecaj (talk) 04:02, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome! ZooFari 04:07, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Additional input:

Copyvios and attack pages should be blanked. The documentation for {{db-g10}} details this, whereas {{db-g12}} does not but the same rationale of minimizing the viewing of legally actionable bad content applies.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 07:17, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

{{Copyrighted}} does tell the user to blank. - Mgm|^(talk) 07:42, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Finding it impossible to add a (properly formatted) Radio show infobox to an article

Hi,
I'm working on This Sporting Life (radio program) and have twice tried adding a Radio show infobox at the top (of which I copied one example from From our own Correspondent) but the formatting keeps coming out wrong (although the mark-up looks exactly the same to me). (I also tried another infobox from a different radion show.) Could anyone please help?
Thanks very much!--Tyranny Sue (talk) 08:20, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Can't find a diff of your attempts in the history. Equendil Talk 09:05, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please delete the last sentence in the opening content related to article about India

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– This was an instance of vandalism, thanks for pointing it out, has been removed. tempodivalse [☎] 14:36, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The sentence "India is a filthy, scavenging, third world little shit hole, its an extremely POOR country and will forever be" should be removedPnkj80 (talk) 10:34, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done, thanks for pointing that out. Tra (Talk) 10:53, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Most accessed Wikipedia Articles

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– tempodivalse [☎] 15:23, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a place where I can see the most accessed wikipedia articles? --Demertius840 (talk) 13:57, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See here.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:13, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template creation

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– Anti venin 12:54, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Anti venin 12:54, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Can I create my own templates with generic messages (for the Help Desk, for example) even though that template might not ever be used by anyone except me? If so, should I create these 'personal' templates in the Template namespace, or can I create it in my userspace or something? Anti venin 14:36, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If the template is not likely to fill a hole and be useful for many users then yes, you can and should create it as a subpage of your userspace rather than in the template space. Each template has to be made as a separate page. You simply create an intuitively named subpage, create the text, and then can place it using {{User:Antivenin/name}}. Though you listed it only as an example, note some existing templates for the help desk at {{Help desk templates}}. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:48, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ZOMG! You are teh coolness. =D +10 points for you. Anti venin 15:16, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

User subpages are a handy way to test templates while you are developing them. That way if you get stuck for a long time before you get a template to work, it is unlikely to get deleted, as a broken template in the Template: namespace might. To test a template you are developing, you generally need two subpages: one subpage for the template itself, and another "sandbox" subpage in which you transclude the template to see how it is working. --Teratornis (talk) 18:01, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the assistance. =) Anti venin 12:54, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Foreign Language Sources

Hi, I'm relatively new to Wikipedia and I was wondering how I would go about citing non-English sources. WP:NONENG states that editors should avoid using non-English sources, but it doesn't mention anything about how to cite them when necessary. Should I use the best English translation possible for the title and author, or should I simply just leave the title and author in the original language? --Ecruos (talk) 15:41, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I recommend citing both. Just make two footnotes at the same location in the body text of the article, one for the original source, and the other for the translation. Depending on how motivated you are to look for a more "definitive" answer, WP:EIW#Citesource lists lots of links to Wikipedia's internal documenation about citations, and you can search the Wikipedia talk:Verifiability archive for "foreign". However, I doubt anyone would complain if you cited both sources in separate footnotes. I've done something similar when I cited a scholarly work which featured in a popular press account. I cited the news article and the original paper in two separate footnotes. That way the citation becomes more robust against link rot. --Teratornis (talk) 18:14, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I may have misunderstood the poster, but it's probably worth clarifying: If the source you want to use is only available in another language, then of course you cite its title and author in the original language. If the original language uses a non-Latin script such as Chinese or Cyrillic, then you can use the original script, a standard transcription into Latin letters, or both. --Hans Adler (talk) 15:22, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

keeping or making the port green

my question is that i live in the developing world and people have no idea or no interest in keeping the world environmentally clean.i had been working in re-cycling industry in saudi arabia .the first of its kind in this part of the world and got fasinated with this job . i feel it is agreat job and help humanity because the effect of environmental clean or decrease the green house effect is cumulative.my effort or our effort helps humanity in improving the condition by small proportion but it is better than doing nothing or doing something bad.i am in a position to change the environmemnt condition of one of the port in the arabian sea area and if success ful might be able to change the condition in three major ports.i want to give slogan --GO GREEN- TO PORT ACTIVITY-.I NEED A CHECK LIST OF ALL THE THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE TO KEEP PORT GREEN AND ENVIRONMENT FRIENDLY AND CARRY LITTE BIT OF WASTE MANAGEMENT IN THE PORT AND PORT AREA NOTE-I AM EX GRADUATE OF FORT RUCKER ALABAMA AND LEARN HELICOPTER FLYING FROM THERE AND HAVE GREAT HOPES FROM THE REAL AMERICAN PEOPLE AND NOT POLITICIANS.PLEASE HELP ME EX -CAPT KHALID HELICOPTER PILOT FRM HANCHEY ..-- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.103.234.30 (talk) 15:50, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Science reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. Anti venin 15:58, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Email address removed as per policy. BrainyBabe (talk) 20:59, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

permanent link for running Reference Desk threads

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– Sundardas (talk) 18:49, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Are there permanent links for unarchived/running threads on WP:RD? Sundardas (talk) 16:12, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If I understand the question: Go to the WP:RD, click on history, pick a version that contains a desired thread, click in the TOC on the thread you want to link to ... and the pera-link will be in your address bar. — Ched : ? 16:54, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

questions/doubts on the article...where??

where do i ask questions on any particular article or a topic? more importantly, who do i ask them? is there any sort of a forum or discussion panel here? the questions we ask here are supposed to be technical questions, isnt it? or can i ask content related queries here too? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dustbite (talk • contribs) 16:51, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This desk is for questions about using Wikipedia. If you have a content question, the reference desk is the best place to ask. If you have a technical question about Wikipedia that cannot be answered here, check out the village pump. TNXMan 16:54, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Normally your best bet is the talk (or discussion) tab on the page you're interested in. As Tnxman mentions, this particular page is more for asking general questions on how wikipedia in general works. Since some topic pages may be a little stagnant, and on occasion you may even find the talk page completely barren - I often found help by going to a users talk page that most recently edited that topic. If the topic falls into a certain category, you may also find some assistance on a related Wikipedia:WikiProject. example: Dale Earnhardt would be a part of Wikipedia:WikiProject NASCAR — Ched : ? 17:04, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Each article has a discussion page for commenting/debating the merits of the article. Just look near the top of the page for the "discussion" tab, click on it, click "create new section", title your comment and type away!--Levalley (talk) 17:11, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines for rules about what is and isn't allowed on talk pages. If you tell us the article you have in mind, we can tell you where the relevant discussions might be. If the article's subject matter is complex or specialized, it's good to read all the related articles on the topic, and read all the past discussions about the topic, before starting a new discussion. You can find related articles by following links from the article, and looking at the categories the article is in. Some articles (such as Barack Obama, Depictions of Muhammad, Global warming) are controversial, and their talk pages tend to get cluttered with repetitive comments from relatively new users who haven't read the previous discussions. When you see an issue and you want to comment on it, it's good to know whether other people have already discussed it. It's also good to look at the article's history - an article which gets few edits is very different than an article which gets an edit every few minutes. In general, the more active an article is, the more likely you are to run into other editors who are actively watching it, and the more you have to understand about what they are doing to avoid getting into conflicts with them. --Teratornis (talk) 05:21, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tryna delete user & disc pages but stalker keep reverting

I am trying to delete my userpage and discussion page. Everytime I do I am reverted then blocked with the reason being vandalism. This WP:UP#OWN says I am allowed to do delete my pages. Please help. 70.108.68.176 (talk) 17:08, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Are you asking for help with the ongoing dispute at User_talk:70.108.93.13 and User talk:Lilkunta? --Teratornis (talk) 17:56, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it is about 70.108.93.13& my previous ips. No it isnt about lilkunta. A bunch of editors have banded 2gether 2 abuse me & have accused me of being lilkunta. I asked for evidence & still they havent provided it. Instead they just block. Im tired of it all. So Im tryna delete but they come after & revert. 70.108.68.176 (talk) 18:38, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You mentioned a userpage; which userpage are you asking about? Neither 70.108.68.176 nor 70.108.93.13 has a userpage. —teb728 t c 20:21, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Question about proper use of pictures

Hi. I am trying to figure out if I did something wrong or if someone was overzealous in undoing my edit. On the Wally Cox article, it was noted that contrary to his public persona, he was adventuresome and athletic. I put a picture of him from the Mission: Impossible pilot in as a thumbnail that helped validate that point. My edit was reverted with note "rv gf edit: it's not even recognizably Cox". I guess I understand the point of the person who reverted my edit. But before I shrug and walk away, I figured I'd run it up the flagpole and see if anyone agrees with me on this point or I just get a bigger beatdown on this. ;-) Thanks in advance for the help. BillFromDDTDigest (talk) 18:30, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Images are intended to enhance the content, not to prove a point. I have to agree with the other editor: my first guess would have been Woody Allen. --Gadget850 (talk) 19:13, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

overhead line

Dear, my query is simple.I would like to know in long distance transmission line,AC or DC is using higher size of conductor size? please explain with reasons Rajesh —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajesharyadevan (talk • contribs) 18:40, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried the Science section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. TNXMan 18:44, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This sounds like a school or college test question and we don't do your homework for you. – ukexpat (talk) 18:46, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

We have a pretty good High-voltage direct current article, which contains an important clue, but since this smells like homework I will let you read the article and find the clue yourself. --Teratornis (talk) 05:08, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

External link formatting problem

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– Tomaterols (talk) 20:23, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

On my user page I have a short "article" under the heading "When Facts--Aren't!" In the article there is a link to the Cathedral Church of St. Luke that I just can't make look right. The link functions perfectly, but the icon (the little square with the diagonal upward arrow) that usually appears after the link name is not there and there are several additional spaces in the text I can't remove. I've spent and hour or two fiddling with this, recreaating the link, adding and deleting spaces before and after the link, etc. and nothing seems to work. If anybody could look at it and tell me what I've done wrong I'd really appreciate it. All of the links I've created seem to be fine. --Tomaterols (talk) 19:57, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It appears fine to me. hmmm.... - Jarry1250 ^{(t, c)} 20:01, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The link seems to be all right to me as well -- the diagonal arrow indicating an external link is there, and there doesn't seem to be any spacing problems. Is this perhaps a browser display error? tempodivalse [☎] 20:02, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If it's a "browser display error" does that mean it looks O.K. to everybody else? Does everyone else see the problem or is it only me? As I say, all my other links, internal and external look and work fine.--Tomaterols (talk) 20:09, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It' the browser. I just opend the page with Firefox (vs. Internet Explorer) and it looks fine. Thanks for the tip.--Tomaterols (talk) 20:24, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Which speedy deletion tag should I use?

Hello, today I came across two different pages that needed to be speedy deleted, however I didn't know which CSD tag to use.

The first one was for a videogame that already had an article, except that the new article title had a spelling mistake. So I needed a tag that says something like "duplicate article".
The second one was for a non-notable martial arts, i.e. an article that falls under WP:MADEUP.

So which CSD tags should I use for this kind of articles? Any suggestions? Thanks! Laurent (talk) 20:15, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles that are duplicates of existing ones and only differ by a spelling error are usually redirected. Whether an martial artist is non-notable is usually a matter of opinion. They could fall under CSD A7 for people, but it's usually a better idea to get community feedback. The same goes for made up people. Unless their non-existence is blatantly obvious to the majority of readers (which would be CSD G3), a stint on AFD to make absolutely sure that's the case is the better option. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:15, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How many views does the Main Page get each day?

I tried searching internally, and found the FAQ that the page counter had been disabled for performance reasons. I tried the excellent Wikirank but it doesn't recognise terms such as "main page". I want to know about how many people see the main page on an average day, and how many click through to the main article (and, ideally, how many click through to subsidiary articles such as the day's anniversaries). Any ideas if this information is available? BrainyBabe (talk) 20:38, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The data is available here. If you want to see page view statistics for other pages, you can obtain them by going to the history tab of the page you're interested in and clicking on the 'Page view statistics' link. Tra (Talk) 21:09, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for pointing me to that tool. It answers part of the first question, but it doesn't seem to give me any information about click-throughs, so I've removed the "resolved" template for now. It would be interesting to see the spike caused by an article becoming the featured one of the day, and for how long that spike-effect lasts. Of course I could look them up individually, but I wonder if anyone has compiled this information somehow? The other point is the first question. The tools seem to indicate the number of page views. If I understand correctly, this could be by the same person returning several times to the main page in one session or one day -- I know I do. Is there somehow a more precise way of measuring how many people see the main page on an average day? Newspapers have a formula, whereby they multiply sold copies by the number of people their research tells them will read each copy (e.g. 1.3). Does anything like that exist for Wikipedia? BrainyBabe (talk) 14:44, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstars

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– tempodivalse [☎] 02:31, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I would like to award this editor a barnstar for his major contributions to an article that was, before his revamping, a scrawny little thing. Anybody know where a collection of barnstars to hand out is kept? --Under22Entreprenuer (talk) 22:25, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that WP:Barnstars has what you need. TNXMan 22:33, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Talk page emergency

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– tempodivalse [☎] 02:28, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

All right, it's not really an Emergency. But I the problem want it fixed ASAP: I heavily modified my talk page, but everything on it is now flushed to the right, as you'll see here. Can somebody correct this for me and tell me what went wrong? Thanks a bunch. --Under22Entreprenuer (talk) 23:15, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I played around with it a bit, (but didn't save) and I think it's in the following line:

{| class="infobox" width="300px" ...

when I changed it to read width=800 - it spread it out. I'd have gone ahead and changed things, but I'm not sure exactly how you want it. Good luck, and happy editing. ;) — Ched : ? 23:36, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is definitely what Ched said. Don't change it to 800px though. I would get rid of the whole width option instead of modifying it. The reason being is that people have different screen widths. Removing it will flow the templates automatically when viewed in a different monitor. ZooFari 00:08, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind. Just to save a few headaches, I've reverted my page to its original format. Thanks's for your help, though. :)--Under22Entreprenuer (talk) 02:04, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

April 12

CHANGING THE COLOR OF MY WIKI SKIN FROM WHITE TO BLUE OR GREY

HI! I really want to know what Java Script(?) or whatever you call it to type into the box under the "changing skins" tab for personalizing my Wiki experience *grin ... I am a person who isnt into staring at bright white computer screens (one of my pet peeves)over extended amounts of time because bright light really does promote migraines in people. Infact this is why I use http://www.blackle.com/ as my starting page because black webpages are more energy effecient than white ones aswell as they dont promote migraines or burn out my eyesockets when surfing them.

I kinda wish ALL WEBSITES WOULD GO GREY OR BLACK FOR THOSE REASONS!!!!

Anyways, PLEASE, can someone tell me EXACTLY what code or commands to type into the box under "preferences - my skin" so I can from now on surf and read a darker blue or grey page so its easier on my eyes and not cause headaches???

I would greatly appreciate this helpful information!

(thank-you Wiki people for this awesome phenomenon called Wiki!!)

G2thef (talk) 02:00, 12 April 2009 (UTC)G2theF[reply]

I think you're looking for Special:Preferences - (or My Preferences up on the top line of the page). You'll see a skins tab there that will let you tweak your "Wiki Experience" ;) — Ched : ? 02:14, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you use Firefox you can code it so that every page on the Internet will display by your preferences and there's no monobook java playing around or molting of your skin needed. Go to: Tools -> Options -> Content tab -> Colors -> Change the background color from white to black; change the text color from black to white or other light color; and uncheck the boxes for "use system colors and "allow pages to choose their own colors". You may also want to change the color of links from dark blue to soimething lighter, as well as for visited links. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:24, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fuuhhgg buddy ommggg THAT IS SO AWESOME AMIGO!!!!! MAN I WANT TO THANK-YOU FOR THAT TIP LOL!!!

Thing is, you 2 people didnt answer my question though ... I'm not sure if I am going to browse the net WITH EVERY PAGE ALWAYS THE SAME COLOR ...

I asked for the java or html(?) code to type in the box of the "change skin" page so I can from now on surf ONLY Wiki with a darker color to save my eyes

SO IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE THAT KNOWS THIS TO HELP ME?

Thanks.

G2thef (talk) 02:51, 12 April 2009 (UTC)G2theF[reply]

Go to your preferences and put a check in the box marked "Use a black background with green text on the Monobook skin" (the last box under "User interface gadgets"). Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:26, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fuhghettaboutit, YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!!

I'm sure there is a way to change any skin to colors I'd prefer but I won't be fussy and so will use these green and black colors I guess.

Thanks very much.

G2thef (talk) 03:39, 12 April 2009 (UTC)G2theF[reply]

See Help:Skin#Customisation (advanced users) for more customizing options. --Teratornis (talk) 04:57, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ya Teratornis thanks but I had already found that page and realized I dont know what to type for the Java or Html(?) code and so I asked how to do it but so far people are giving responses that don't answer my question. I thought someone would know computer stuff here but I guess noone does.

I'm actually getting used to this green and black anyways.

G2thef (talk) 06:53, 12 April 2009 (UTC)G2theF[reply]

Creepy photo

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– tempodivalse [☎] 02:56, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So on the left side of the screen, by the Wikipedia globe this creepy picture of Jimbo Wales keeps coming up. It is just his face and it leans out, the eyes move around (as if he is looking around), then the face will lean back off the screen. What is the deal with this?? TharsHammar^Bits and^Pieces 02:16, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You mean something like this? – ukexpat (talk) 02:21, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, what the heck is that and why does it show up on random pages!?!? TharsHammar^Bits and^Pieces 02:26, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There was an AfD on April Fool's Day involving Jimbo Wales' user page (or something like that), intended as a joke. It featured that animation. Was that what you were looking at? tempodivalse [☎] 02:26, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Random pages? Do these include articles? Please let us know if this shows up on articles. They aren't supposed to. ZooFari 02:28, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, could you tell us what pages, specifically, you saw this on? They shouldn't be in articles in the mainspace. tempodivalse [☎] 02:38, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I figured out what it was from and where I saw it. I was looking at an IP address's talk page, [6], and it appears that a user is embedding the image in their signature [7]. I was wondering if it was specific to a page, or if it was a wikipedia wide problem, now I know its a userbox that was added to talk pages. TharsHammar^Bits and^Pieces 02:43, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It was this userbox. I think he screwed up the coding and has it going past April fools day. TharsHammar^Bits and^Pieces 02:47, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

wait a second - someone called a photo of our exalted leader "creepy"? .. ;) — Ched : ? 03:04, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dang, I missed it. Sounds hilarious!--Tyranny Sue (talk) 03:10, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just hope you don't find Jimbo walking across the help desk "naked" someday. Then you would call it "creepy" :) ZooFari 03:08, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

lol .. I really didn't need that image introduced to my sub-conscience this close to bed-time. Now I'm gonna be having all kind of strange nightmares! ;) — Ched : ? 03:37, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

lol :-) ZooFari 04:08, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This animation would be more interesting if it also included some of the young women who helped to finance Wikipedia in the early days. Let us never forget our proud heritage. --Teratornis (talk) 04:52, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Find an article for me?

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– Chamal ^talk 03:31, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I'm here asking questions for a change... :) Do we have an article on the recent hostage rescue operation carried out by the French military (the pirate thing)? I can't seem to find it, so I'd appreciate it if someone could direct me to the article if it exists. Chamal ^talk 03:27, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Action of 9 April 2009. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:28, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. We should make some sensible redirects to that. Surprised to see it's not on ITN... Chamal ^talk 03:31, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. The name was so unituitive so I moved it to French Navy yacht rescue operation.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:38, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Partisan Warfare

I have a question, is a partisan attacking another partisan really a noteworthy controversy? On Bill O'Reily's criticism page I tore out a bunch of controversies mainly b/c they were limited to Media Matters, Al Franken, Keith Olbermann, FAIR, a few other left-wing organizations/individuals, or any combination of the aforementioned. None of the controversies had links to non-partisan sites or sources reporting on them, except in cases of "evidence" of Bill O'Reily's alleged wrongdoing. Basically, it was just a bunch of 'events' that were confined to a very select group of individuals and didn't seem to be real controversies but typical partisan bickering. Soxwon (talk) 03:27, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would suggest bringing this up on the Bill O'Reilly talk page. That's the place to discuss content issues and what should/should not be in the article. TNXMan 03:32, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, my question is in general. If it's only necessary to have a partisan commenting/attacking it, wouldn't that mean every liberal article would be covered in Limbaugh, Hannity, Free Republic, and other conservative pundits? Soxwon (talk) 03:36, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it's hard to extrapolate from one article to others. Each article is written (and sourced and edited, etc.) on it's own merits. If the consensus is that the Bill O'Reilly article should have a controversy section, then it does. But it sounds like you're already on the right path, which is to make a bold edit, see if someone reverts you, and if so, start discussing. If you're successful with this article, then you could try the same thing elsewhere. TNXMan 04:14, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

spelling or correct usage

which is the correct spelling - time table or times table or the usage of the words.

I've always said "times tables" (as in "learning my 5 times tables"), but I bet the people over the language reference desk would know more. TNXMan 04:11, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

On the other hand, if you are asking about a schedule, then I think it is called a "time table." —teb728 t c 04:49, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've always referred to it as the "multiplication table" if talking about multiples, and "time table" if talking about a time sheet or schedule. If I had to choose though, "times" sounds more reasonable because people say "5 times 5" not "5 time 5". In any case, saying "time(s)" table is a big slangy if you ask me. --Poet Talk 05:44, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Image source not valid

I have a question about an image I ran into today. It was a copyrighted and unlicensed image that qualified as "fair use". A valid rational was given and everything was in order EXCEPT for the source (which led to a broken internet page).

Does this mean that the image no longer falls under the blanket of fair use anymore? Should it be marked for speedy deletion or should a tag such as {{no source}} be added?

I guess I'm getting confused because the terms of fair use are no longer valid, but they WERE valid at one point in time. Does that even matter? Everything I read seems to explain that it should be tagged for no valid source and deleted after 7 days, but generally that's regarding images that were uploaded with no source at all. I think I'm slowly answering my own question here. --Poet Talk 06:05, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

On a similar thought, if I could find a new source for that exact same image, could I substitute the source for the new source that I found? Would a new image/fair-use rational need to be done? --Poet Talk 06:10, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Finding an alternate source for the same image to replace the broken link would be the better solution of the two. Personally, I see no problem to begin with. We assume something is copyrighted by default, so from there to finding proper fair use reasons is really nothing complicated. Being copyrighted is the whole point fair use would need to be applied for -- not having source doesn't change anything about that situation, but I'm not a lawyer. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:30, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A problem with references

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– Equendil Talk 13:25, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I am working with the article about Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan. When I wanted to add the two last references, they turned out pretty curious. (Please, take a look!) I dont know how to correct them.--Tellervo (talk) 10:45, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Two problems here: References are numbered automatically from the <ref></ref> pairs in the body of the article, so you basically *don't* want to attribute a number to references added manually in that section. As for why they turned out blocky, that happens if you start a line with a space character. Equendil Talk 10:56, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oskar, oskar, ''oskar''

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– Celefin (talk) 14:06, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I tried to move the page Oskar to a lower case italic version as appropriate for a Drosophila gene name. However as you see it didn't work out so well and went to ''oskar'' which I can't even work out how to link to :) How should I have done it and how should I clear it up? Thanks Celefin (talk) 12:06, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Due to technical limitations, the first character of the name of a page cannot be lower case (though it can be displayed in the title as such using a template as described). Italic or other formatting is not possible either and probably against naming conventions. So basically, the page should go back to Oskar and the new page deleted (you can request deletion using the {{db-author}} template. Equendil Talk 13:39, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I always thought the first letter would be capitalized, but then I ran across moe.. How did that happen? TNXMan 13:41, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Display trick, the actual page name is "Moe.". Equendil Talk 13:43, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would also suggest you comment on the talk page why you think the title should be displayed in lowercase. Equendil Talk 13:46, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting! I found {{lowercase title}}, which I did not know existed before. I'll add it to my list of handy templates. TNXMan 13:46, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the help. I was just beginning to realise that italics in titles is work in progress. To summarise: for a lower case first title character use Template:Lowercase. For italic titles: in the case of biological species names this is now done automatically by the taxobox. There is also Template:Italictitle. However at this point it seems that the lowercase and italictitle templates cannot be used together, which is needed for gene names in certain species. See also this discussion. Thanks again for the assistence. Celefin (talk) 14:06, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Languages Problem

Hey, I am curious as so why in the Wikipedia: About section, in the languages part, "Bosanski" is in the 20 000+. It should be in the 50 000+ since it is the same language as "Srpski" and "Hrvatski", which are both in that category. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by BioInk (talk • contribs) 13:10, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Bosnian language Wikipedia (Bosanski) is here and has 26,588 articles. The Serbian Wikipedia (Srpski) is a separate Wikpedia, as is the Croatian Wilkipedia (Hrvatski), so the number of articles is counted separately. The section you refer to in Wikipedia:About does not refer to different languages per se, but to different Wikipedias. My reading of our articles on the Serbian, Croatian and Bosnian languages is that they are all mutually intelligible, but are separate dialects. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:34, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Firefox freezing on page histories

For some unknown reason, since yesterday I've been having a problem with Firefox (3.0.8) freezing when I go onto a page history. I'd never come across the problem until yesterday but now it seems to be happening nearly every time. It seems to be fine on pages with only a few edits in the history but anything more and it has a problem. I've tried searching for help on this but couldn't find anything. Anybody know what's up?--Thetriangleguy (talk) 14:33, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've seen several mentions of this, along with complaints of session data loss and other items. I don't know the technical reasons behind the problem, but I think this extends beyond your computer. It seems to be more of a Wikipedia problem concerning servers and perhaps bandwidth rather than your individual settings, browser, or computer. There have even been complaints and problems mentioned via the IRC channel. Hopefully it will be resolved soon, if it hasn't been already. — Ched : ? 15:03, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is a related discussion at WP:Village pump (technical)#History pages taking forever to load with javascript enabled. I suggest continuing there to keep everything in one place. --Hans Adler (talk) 15:08, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Question on corrections/additions to existing articles?

There is an entry for Cedar Beach NY. It says that it exists in Babylon, Long Island, NY - which is correct. However, there is another Cedar Beach on Long Island. It is in the town of Mt. Sinai. How can this get posted?Physicalgrafitti75 (talk) 15:13, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How to make columns?

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– 190.17.201.142 (talk) 18:13, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How can I format a personal page to have 3 columns. For example: in this links page. Gracias. 190.17.201.142 (talk) 15:15, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See Help:Columns, which gives instructions on how to do this. Please feel free to ask if you need any more help. Cheers. Chamal ^talk 15:18, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

To make it more clearer, your format should be;

Text of column 1

Text of column 2

Text of column 3

Hope that helps. Chamal ^talk 15:23, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. No way to make them automatically so that they adapt as new content is added I guess then? 190.17.201.142 (talk) 18:13, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Where can I find a list of pictures I created here on Wikipedia?

Ra agg io 15:19, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here. This is provided as the "Files uploaded" link at the very bottom of your contributions.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:22, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It Isn't Working

I was trying to edit Rational Numbers so it would show "a over b, where a and b are elements of the set of integers and b does not equal zero" mathematically, but I got this "Failed to parse" stuff, like this:

Failed to parse (syntax error): {\displaystyle \frac{a}{b}, a, b \in \mathbb{Z}, b ≠ 0}

Can anyone show me the correct way to show this, please? Thanks!99.179.26.161 (talk) 16:17, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

{\frac {a}{b}},a,b\in \mathbb {Z} ,b\neq 0

--Teratornis (talk) 18:01, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See the "Relations" entry under m:Help:Displaying a formula#Functions, symbols, special characters. You have to use \ne rather than the character ≠. --Teratornis (talk) 18:04, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Willie "The Lion" Smith

I'm a newbie and I tried to make a major edit to the Willie "The Lion" Smith site. They have him marrying the wrong Blanche Merrill. I knew the right one very well and tried to include quite a bit of her biography as well as the circumstances under which they married and separated which I learned first hand from the correct Blanche Merrill.

The edits I made disappeared when I tried to save them. Have they gone to the original authors of the site for verification/acceptance or rejection, or have did I just been inadvertantly delete them. Please let me know before I try to do it all again.

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crowebobby (talk • contribs) 16:41, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is your only edit with your current account, so it is difficult to understand what article you are referring to; there are several articles on William Smith. --Gadget850 (talk) 16:51, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Surprisingly, I found Willie "The Lion" Smith. You should discuss this on the article talk page. --Gadget850 (talk) 16:54, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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