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December 13
how to edit
i was wondering how to edit this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Newsted
It says his Birth Name was Jason Newsted, When it actually was not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.249.20.251 (talk) 00:08, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- Hit "edit" at the top. CTJF83 00:15, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
I see that you tried to add a comment within the article [1], but that was removed; comments like that are not appropriate within the article itself. You could comment on the discussion page, Talk:Jason Newsted.
I tried to find a reference for the name "Brown", but I couldn't see anything. This biography book, and various other places, just say "Newstead". If you can provide a reference, we could add the information. Chzz ► 09:50, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Adding a "Themes" section to a movie article
Hello,
I added a "Themes" section to a film article and an editor removed it, but I disagree with his reasoning and believe he has a conflict of interest. He told me I should take it up with a film Admin. I am a new Wikipedian. Can you tell me how to do that, please?
Amyluna13 (talk) 04:06, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- That's ludicrous; there are no such "film Admin[s]" that have "the power to over-ride an editor". So long as the themes are sourced to reliable sources and your discussion of the themes does not deviate to off-topic tangents, it is fine to include them in the article. Goodvac (talk) 04:19, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for your reply. He is saying that "themes are not pivotal to the film" and so the entire section is not appropriate. He sent me links to other Film articles that didn't have a "Themes" section as proof that "Themes" are not relevant. I was careful to only quote direct dialogue and scenes from the film and to cite reputable sources. Since it clearly states on the Film Style page that a "Themes" section that is based on reliable sources is appropriate, I replaced the section and he deleted it again. I didn't want to start an edit war, so I tried to convince him and showed him the Style page, etc. but he's not havin' it. If I put it back, I think he'll just take it down again. Also, he is personally connected to the events in the film (his own admission) so I think he has a conflict of interest. What is the next level of appeal? Amyluna13 (talk) 04:27, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- Themes sections are eminently encyclopedic and exactly the sort of content we do want in our film articles. Though sourcing them can sometimes be tricky since you can't just make up your own analysis.
The next level of appeal is me yelling at him. (Well, not me specifically, and not yelling, but rather, getting other editors to explain that he's wrong.) Level after that is... shouting for an admin or trying the conflict of interests notice board. --erachima talk 04:32, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- Themes sections are eminently encyclopedic and exactly the sort of content we do want in our film articles. Though sourcing them can sometimes be tricky since you can't just make up your own analysis.
Ah, there actually is a problem here: your themes section seemingly has no sources discussing the themes of the movie in question, instead just having sources about the themes outside the context of the movie. This is flying afoul of Wikipedia:No Original Research, one of our key content standards. --erachima talk 04:38, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- how is that different from this entry in the ''All Quiet on the Western Front'' book entry?
One of the major themes of the novel is the difficulty of soldiers to revert to civilian life after having experienced extreme combat situations. Remarque comments in the preface that "[All Quiet on the Western Front] will try simply to tell of a generation of men who, even though they may have escaped shells, were destroyed by the war." This internal destruction can be found as early as the first chapter as Paul comments that, although all the boys are young, their youth has left them. When on leave from the front, Paul feels strongly isolated from his family and removed from daily life. Another topic concerns how soldiers' lives are put at risk by their commanding officers who seem unaware of the trauma of their charges. (emphasis mine)
- this article doesn't cite outside sources commenting on theme...I'm confused... If I find an independent source commenting on these themes, then can I add my section Also, theis article already cites PTSD as a major theme. Aren't I just illustrating that in more detail, like the book article I cited above? I'm confused...Amyluna13 (talk) 04:44, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- That's the basic idea, yes, and I've given a somewhat more detailed explanation on Talk:In the Valley of Elah. No comment on how All Quiet on the Western Front does things, as I haven't read it and don't know if it's correct or not, but seeing as All Quiet on the Western Front is standard highschool lit. material it wouldn't surprise me if it slacked on sources (specifically, in-line sources) in places simply because its themes are common knowledge to most editors and therefore unlikely to be questioned in practice. --erachima talk 05:00, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi. How did I do this?
So, hi. I was page-stalking ClueBot Commons for the ClueBot NG team and accidentally {{included}} Cobi's userpage instead of using [[brackets]] to link to him (the edit in question can be seen here). My question is this: How on earth did that little mistake manage to warp all of the text to use right-to-left? (Look at the preview of my edit as opposed to the diff.)
Thanks, -- SnoFox(t|c) 06:28, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- Look at the source code of Cobi's user page. The reverse is part of a trick Cobi uses to prevent someone from editing the page. —teb728 t c 07:04, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- Oh that's ... Awesome. Thanks. :P -- SnoFox(t|c) 07:37, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
re: "incomplete" list of Italian Films.
Question:
eg. As you know, one can search an "incomplete" list of 'Films of Italy' by a given 'Year'. This list of films includes many film titles, in red text, in Italian - these are the "incomplete" films? (Or do you mean, there is some films 'not listed on this list' - and thus this list is incomplete) Please clarify.
Much appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.180.183.67 (talk) 08:25, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- Possibly both, but more specifically, not all films are listed. CTJF83 08:28, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- When an entry is blue, then when you click on the title you will be directed to a page about that specific film. When the entry is red it means no page about that specific film exists yet (see Wikipedia:Red link for more information). Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 08:32, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Where can I get feedback on my handling of an AfD?
I'm wondering if I'm doing the right thing at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Francisco Sanchis Cortes and Francisco Sanchis Cortes. I've deleted the unreferenced and NPOV content - which is all of the article, basically, although I haven't technically blanked it, AFAIAC. I did so with the expectation that the 'pro' editors would make some effort to restore material with references, but this hasn't happened. Where's the best forum to post this query - or, alternatively, could I be given some feedback here? With thanks, Colonel Tom 08:48, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- "but this hasn't happened"... I'd give it longer than 35 minutes, for a start. Tigerboy1966 (talk) 09:26, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- I meant it hadn't happened from my initial edit back on 5/12, not after my edit today. I take your point, though, Tigerboy1966. And I thank you. Colonel Tom 09:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- I see what you meant now. It always seems strange to me that some people obviously spend ages putting an article together and then never lift a finger to improve it. That being said, the original article does have a whiff of auto-translation about it. Tigerboy1966 (talk) 10:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- Seems quite reasonable to me (to delete that content). One would hope other editors assessing things would check the history. The admin who assesses/deletes it certainly should (and almost certaily will). But it looks like nobody can find references - I couldn't find any - so I imagine it should be deleted. Chzz ► 09:40, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks to both of you for the feedback. It's much appreciated. I'm reassured that I haven't been too heavy-handed. I'll let the AfD run its course. Colonel Tom 22:17, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- I meant it hadn't happened from my initial edit back on 5/12, not after my edit today. I take your point, though, Tigerboy1966. And I thank you. Colonel Tom 09:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Looking for 'On hold' template
I want to put a request 'On hold'. I know there is a specific template for this, listed on a page with a bunch of other such templates like 'Approved', 'Done', etc., but I can't remember the location of that page. Can someone point me to it? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 09:51, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- I guess you are asking about Articles for Creation. After discussions (here, and in later sections), the "on hold" status was removed. "Declined" submissions can of course be re-submitted at any time, as the notice explains. Chzz ► 10:00, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- No. I made a proposal at WP:VPR#Bot to maintain and auto update a list and another user prematurely made a request at WP:BOTREQ#Bot to maintain and auto update a list. I want to put that request on hold, until there is a consensus at VPR. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 10:11, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- How about {{On hold}}? -- John of Reading (talk) 10:25, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. I guess I could've found it myself by simply searching for 'On hold' in the "Template:" namespace via the search box, but hey... Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 10:31, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- How about {{On hold}}? -- John of Reading (talk) 10:25, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- No. I made a proposal at WP:VPR#Bot to maintain and auto update a list and another user prematurely made a request at WP:BOTREQ#Bot to maintain and auto update a list. I want to put that request on hold, until there is a consensus at VPR. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 10:11, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Posting images
I would like to post some images to articles I have edited. They are jpegs in windows 'my pictures' I cannot find out how to do this
Can I just say that I think Wikipedia is missing a trick! There are lots of people like me ( I think) who know quite a lot about history, literature and the other humanities, but are not terrifically computer literate. You should have an idiot's guide to contributing, because we have knowledge which we would like to share, but are defeated by abstruce technical jargon in your instructions10:15, 13 December 2011 (UTC)Radegunde (talk) 10:15, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, I'm sorry that images are complicated. That's because the first step is to check the copyright status of the images, and copyright law is complicated. If these are pictures that you took yourself, then you should upload them to Wikimedia Commons using this form. Then, to add the images to an article, have a look at the examples in the Picture tutorial. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:23, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Name change needed to article
I was just wondering if one of the moderators could please change the name of an article. The article Victorian Public Transport Development Authority needs to drop the "Victorian" tag. The official name of the agency is the Public Transport Development Authority. The "Victorian" bit is entirely unnecessary and confusing. The article itself establishes that the agency is Victorian. That should be enough. So, if someone could please change the title, I'd be most grateful. Merci, Transaus (talk) 11:50, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- Done. You could, in fact, have moved it yourself; for future reference, the move function is hidden below the down arrow button in the row of tabs at the top of the article. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:37, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Calculation of articles needing cleanup
On http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Articles_needing_cleanup (internal link does not work here, however) you can find the number of articles needing cleanup. For now, there are about 71.000 of them. Does anybody know how this count is calculated? Although there is the note that the articles are placed in this category by a clean-up tag (and not only by Template:Cleanup), i am pretty sure that not only every 50th article has a certain flaw. There are listed about 400 templates to tag an article for cleanup (Wikipedia:Template messages/Cleanup), for instance Template:Unreferenced. But even this template occurs about 253.000 times (Wikipedia:Database reports/Templates with the most transclusions). So, which templates are considered in the calculation for articles needing cleanup?
Best regards, rabu — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rabu3082 (talk • contribs) 13:36, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- The internal link is Category:Articles needing cleanup. Maybe you missed the preceding colon [[:Category:Articles needing cleanup]], in which case it tries to put this article into the category. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:39, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- The most common one will probably be {{Multiple issues}}, which can add an article to Category:Articles needing cleanup and/or to other categories, depending on which "issues" are listed as parameters. This search displays all the templates that mention the phrase "Articles needing cleanup", though not all of them are used for tagging articles. -- John of Reading (talk) 13:57, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Prison breakouts
I have read the the article about prison breakouts and the links to wanting more true infomation , I don't. Know how to contact you privatly , I have searched and searched for my name to come up for scaling nottingham prison in 1976 , the only person before me was alfie hinds who was made a hero for escaping , i went oout of the roof and over the wall,, but nothing said obout it , nowhere at all , how do i tell my story Charliechan222 (talk) 14:06, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- First get it published by a reliable source such as a mainstream newspaper or magazine with a good reputation for checking facts. Then, if the story is notable enough, someone might write about it on WP. If you can point us to already published news reports about the event that might help. Roger (talk) 14:15, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- To expand on what Roger says: Wikipedia does not accept any information unless it has already been published somewhere else (and somewhere reliable at that). Alos, there is no "you" to contact privately: the Wikimedia foundation has a small number of employees, but Wikipedia is run entirely by volunteers all over the world. --ColinFine (talk) 00:19, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
GENERAL SIR CHARLES ASGILL
How can I resurrect a discussion which was going on last month, which has now been archived and appears to no longer be 'live'?
The page on General Asgill has undergone extensive revision in the past weeks and I hope that it is now as good as it can be, thanks to the help given by several editors, including myself.
I trust that it will be self-evident, now, why it would be my wish to give some public acknowledgement to the treatment dished out to Asgill in 1782 - and again in 1786 when he was denied the right to a voice.
On 20 December 1786 he wrote to The New Haven Gazette newspaper and his letter was never published. While I had originally hoped that some particular focus could be placed on the General Asgill page on 20 December 2011 (the 225th anniversary of the non-publication of his letter) I imagine there is insufficient time for the various approvals to be achieved by then?
Failing that date, might consideration be given to next years main dates, which are:
May 2012 - 230th anniversary of an innocent man selecting the lot to be sent to the gallows December 2012 - 230th anniversary of being sent home on parole
I am hoping that there will be a Wikipedia contributor/editor who would be prepared to do whatever has to be done to achieve this aim as I am afraid that the process is beyond my abilities and I don't even understand the technical language used. If I am left to do this myself I am sorry to say that I will have to walk away from it. Thanks to anyone out there willing to help me. Arbil44 (talk) 14:15, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- The article can only "give some public acknowledgement to the treatment dished out to Asgill in 1782 - and again in 1786 when he was denied the right to a voice" if it is covered by reliable sources. The article should not be used to right what may be perceived to be historical wrongs, unless the available sources reflect that. So with that in mind, if you have such sources, you could discuss them on the articles' talk page and see if anyone else wants to add them to the article. – ukexpat (talk) 16:32, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- I imagine that Asgill's letter itself would do the trick, wouldn't it? I tried to upload the image of the first page of that letter from my photobucket account but this website wouldn't let me do that. So, how do I show a copy of the letter Asgill wrote here? Your assistance would be appreciated since I think I have already made it clear that I find it difficult to negotiate the technological side of this endeavour Arbil44 (talk) 16:57, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- Actually Asgill's letter would not be sufficient as it is a primary source, and as it is not published, cannot be verified. Uploading it would not really help as we have no way of verifying that it is a letter that he wrote. You need reliable secondary sources that deal with this issue. – ukexpat (talk) 17:21, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Before I send a link to this page to the university professor who acquired a copy of the letter for me, what do I need to ask him to provide to satisfy the criteria here? Or does history have to go on repeating itself and this is a never-ending circle of conspiracy to silence a man's human rights? Catch 22 or what? Rather like young people today who cannot get jobs because they have no experience and their experience will only be gained by getting a job.Arbil44 (talk) 17:48, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- Wikipedia by purpose and design is not a place to publish new information and research. Rather, we are a tertiary compilation of information already published in vetted reliable sources. If this letter changes how Asgill is viewed, then somebody will need to publish it in a reputable historical journal, where it and its meaning can be explored by scholars. Then and only then is the information ready for a Wikipedia article. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:53, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Just looked at this: "Overview Articles should be based on reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy." Could you please tell me then that History Today is not a reputable third-party? They requested to view a copy of Asgill's letter before publication of the article, and were entirely satisfied, in collaboration with the said professor, that it WAS Asgill's letter - hence a section of it appears in their hard copy magazine, the December 2011 issue. That is not the case with the on-line version here: http://www.historytoday.com/anne-ammundsen/saving-captain-asgill Arbil44 (talk) 18:01, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- It's perfectly OK to use History Today and what it says about the letter as a source, but it is not OK to use the letter itself. The letter is a primary source and History Today is a secondary source. Also please note that Wikipedia is not a soapbox for a campaign to broadcast Asgill's alleged mistreatment. – ukexpat (talk) 18:14, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
I have to say I am really taken aback that what happened to Asgill can be described as "alleged mistreatment". Innocent of any crime - sent to the gallows - voice silenced thereafter classified as "alleged mistreatment". OK, I withdraw from Wikipedia and everything to do with it, that's fine, but could you first point me to the right soap box so that I know where I should tout my wares?
Meanwhile, of course, Wikipedia benefits from a £200 image of Asgill paid for by me.Arbil44 (talk) 18:21, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- With respect, you are completely overreacting. The point is that if the secondary sources discuss the (alleged) mistreatment, the article can reflect that, but it must be done from a neutral point of view and with appropriate weight. You cannot use Wikipedia to publish your own views and research. Take a look at the Encyclopedia Britannica and its various articles about, say, World War II. I bet that in its discussion of the causes of that war, it draws only from theories already appearing in secondary sources but does not posit the authors' own theories that are not supported by those sources. Mutatis mutandis, same point here. – ukexpat (talk) 18:29, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Given that there has been only ONE point of view expressed on the subject, for the past 225 years, namely the slant put on it by WASHINGTON in his published papers on 16 November 1786 - from which ALL subsequent accounts have been drawn, I am surprised that Wikipedia would not welcome the opportunity to balance the scales. After all, History Today was pleased to do so and they also, for CONTRAST, re-published their 1957 article which had the usual "slant" as dictated by WASHINGTON - that can be found, now digitised, on the same link as given above.
Imagine a world where the ONLY account of the Second World War was that of Adolph Hitler.
The mind boggles.
So, where do I take my quest, if not here? Answers please.....anyone? Arbil44 (talk) 18:37, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is a neutral reference work, and is not here to promote your noble cause. I'm sorry if this causes you distress; but we do not exist as a soapbox for the promotion of ideologies, faiths, demands and petitions, or any other causes. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:43, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- I have already said that you can use History Today as a source. I don't think I can be any more clear. Perhaps someone else can try to explain. – ukexpat (talk) 18:41, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Why has the December 2011 issue of History Today been removed from the list of Further Reading on the article about General Sir Charles Asgill? It is the latest work on the subject and is the culmination of ten years research - now it only comes up as a Footnote. Arbil44 (talk) 18:57, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- If an external site is used as a reference within the article, it is not appropriate to also list it as an external link. – ukexpat (talk) 19:20, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
The following is a direct quote from the earlier discussion, and it leaves me wondering why on earth any time was spent on improving the article...by others, it is true, but certainly I tried my best to conform with requirements and put in a lot of time doing so:
"If you want to get the article featured on the main page, you will have to go through this process. I hope this helps, and best regards, CharlieEchoTango (talk) 14:24, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
- "Those who have the article on their watchlist will be interested to see the recent additions, and more so if the History Today link becomes readable without subscription. The article does need some improvement to meet Wikipedia's standards; in particular the inline external links need to be removed, and replaced by references. Appropriate reading matter includes WP:EL and WP:Referencing for beginners. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:24, 25 November 2011 (UTC)"
It would have been better never to have tried to do as requested. Arbil44 (talk) 19:27, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- Further reading is "further" because it goes beyond the scope of the article, the section is generally used for a listing of books and materials which are not directly referenced within the article due to the writers not having time or space to incorporate them. Now, could you please calmly explain the problem you're having? --erachima talk 19:47, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
I have three problems:
1) I was previously told that if the Asgill article conformed to Wikipedia requirements that it would then qualify to apply for front page attention. Some considerable amount of time has been wasted doing just that, from others as well as myself, but now I am told it wouldn't qualify anyway. Why two different positions on this matter?
2) Is there any reason why I could not reinstate the History Today article (December 2011) in Further Reading and at the same time remove it from being linked to the footnotes? Any casual reader on the page will not now be aware that, after 225 years, there IS an ALTERNATIVE account to that which has been peddled exclusively up to now. I am still finding it extraordinary that that does not seem to appeal to Wikipedia at all.
3) If Hitler was the ONLY one allowed to put his papers into the public domain, thereby making his account the ONLY account of WWII - would that be a good thing? Arbil44 (talk) 23:42, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- Hello, Arbil. I believe that your frustration comes from the fact that you are still trying to use Wikipedia for a purpose which is expressly contrary to its policies; viz promotion of a particular viewpoint. We understand that this is a matter of considerable personal importance to you, but for Wikipedia it is just a scholarly dispute.
- CharlieEchoTango pointed out to you what the process was by which an article can be a featured article; but reading the page he linked to (WP:Featured article candidates) makes it pretty clear that this is a process by which an article can be nominated and must then be selected by consensus. The aim of Wikipedia editors in general is to make the quality of its articles as good as we can, and the featured article process is part of that: again, you have a different purpose for wanting this article to be featured. The work you and others put in has not been wasted, as it has improved the quality of the article - it is only your different purpose that makes you count it wasted.
- If you removed the reference in the footnote, then the material that it supports would be unreferenced and should be removed, so the answer to that question is "no". However, in my view it would be appropriate, given the great difference in the views, for the article to say explicitly that a new account has been published in 2011 (with reference) that runs counter to the traditional view, and to expound and distinguish these two views, as long as the article does not attempt to draw a conclusion about the two views (which would be WP:SYNTHESIS and forbidden). If in time other publications pick up the new view, it may be that the weight of reliable citations will then justify treating the traditional view as a past error, but at present that would not be justified by the sources.
- The question about Hitler is a rhetorical squib of no significance. The issue is not public domain, it is public accessibility, and "good thing" is nowhere invoked. You are seeking to use Wikipedia, a large consensus-driven organ and community, for a purpose which the community has decided is not consonant with its purposes. You have taken a step towards achieving your goal by publishing your article in a reliable organ, and Wikipedia may therefore certainly take cognizance of the article. But Wikipedia is not for the purpose of promoting new theories, however laudable.
- Insofar as you are contributing to the quality of Wikipedia with your contribution to the article and the image, we thank you, even if the work is not immediately satisfying your own goals. --ColinFine (talk) 01:00, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- More apt than your Hitler question: If Wikipedia had been around before the time of Galileo, Wikipedia would have to say the sun goes around the earth, for that is what reliable sources said then. And if Galileo had tried to present his heliocentric theory first in Wikipedia, it would be removed as original research. The standard for inclusion is not truth but verifiability in published reliable sources. —teb728 t c 01:12, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Insofar as you are contributing to the quality of Wikipedia with your contribution to the article and the image, we thank you, even if the work is not immediately satisfying your own goals. --ColinFine (talk) 01:00, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Thank you ColinFine. The comprehensive response you have given me has helped greatly. As you surmise, I certainly do want to draw attention to the new information published in History Today. I have really already done so though - in the section on "The Asgill Affair". I will go back to the article in a moment and simply state that "The information above, taken directly from Asgill's letter, has thrown a completely different light on an event which was, at the time is was unfurling, a cause célèbre in the new world as well as the old. Further information can be found in the December 2011 edition of History Today." I hope that will be acceptable, although of course the Asgill article in History Today will not be freely available online for very much longer (once the January edition is published I imagine Asgill will have had his fifteen minutes of fame)!
P.S. I have just had a thought - would I be able to put a pdf. document of the "Saving Captain Asgill" article in my Photobucket account and somehow link to it on the Asgill page - that way anyone could read the article, as printed in the magazine (which is much better than the online version) at any time and even after it is no longer freely available on-line....if permitted....how do I do it? Arbil44 (talk) 02:58, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Frankly, I am still having difficulty over the issue of 'verifiable sources' when I have Asgill's letter in front of me, but thank you and good night (as it is late in my neck of the woods)! Arbil44 (talk) 01:26, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- A verifiable source is something that can be verified by anybody. Something you have in your personal possession but which isn't available for other people to view is not verifiable in that sense. If you look at this from other people's point of view you should be able to appreciate it better: I could say that I have a letter which proves Asgill was guilty, but unless you can check the letter's contents and verify that Asgill wrote it, then you won't accept that. It's not that we don't trust you, it's just that we need to have procedures to stop incorrect information being posted. --Colapeninsula (talk) 10:35, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Thank you Colapeninsula. Your comments, and more so those from much earlier in this thread, prompted me to speak to the professor who acquired a copy of Asgill's letter on my behalf. I have talked to him about what has been happening here and he has given me his blessing and permission to fully divulge his details and to say he will confirm that the letter from Asgill is genuine and he has a copy of it still. These are his details http://www.hist.cam.ac.uk/directory/rpt1000@cam.ac.uk
1) Please could someone advise me as to how best (and/or where) to include this fact into the Asgill article - or do so for me please?
2) Would I be able to put a pdf. document of the "Saving Captain Asgill" article in my Photobucket account and somehow link to it on the Asgill page - that way anyone could read the article, as printed in the magazine (which is much better than the online version) at any time and even after it is no longer freely available on-line....if permitted....how do I do it? Afterthought. Photobucket will not upload pdf. documents - only jpeg. Can I link jpeg to the article somehow - but unfortunately the article is 6 pages long, so it has to be 6 links.
Advice would be appreciatedArbil44 (talk) 12:20, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- The professor's views are obviously important, but in order to verify them properly, they must be published in a reliable source. We do not verify by e-mailing individuals and asking them for confirmation. To repeat, there is no reason why the external link to the History Today article cannot be used as a reference. References do not have to be online, and references behind a paywall may be acceptable. – ukexpat (talk) 16:12, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Catch 22 - or between a rock and a hard place. I cannot see any light at the end of the tunnel - certainly not within my lifetime. However, having spent an enormous amount of time doing my utmost to meet Wikipedia's demanding requirements (and finding the technological aspects very nerve-racking), is there any chance of the page receiving a decent rating at the end of all this? Arbil44 (talk) 16:57, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Page view statistics
For the past 48 hours I have been unable to get the page view statistics link to work. It takes too long and then times out. Is there an obvious solution please? Arbil44 (talk) 17:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
I am still getting the following message: "The connection has timed out
The server at stats.grok.se is taking too long to respond."
could someone tell me how to get round this problem please? Arbil44 (talk) 23:50, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
I am still unable to access this facility and would much appreciate an explanation...has the facility been 'locked' for some reason? This message continues to come up: "The connection has timed out
The server at stats.grok.se is taking too long to respond." Arbil44 (talk) 17:01, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
SABC Program Line-up
what on earth is the reason for such shocking DSTV program Line Ups. There are millions of DSTV Viewers that pay every single month to watch TV and we get this continous rubbish on TV. There is not one movie from 2011. Every single movie shown is between twenty and thirty tears old. All the same old series are repeated over and over again. Who is running the show? And may we know where our subscriptions are goong to. Is this just another dishonest governmental department? Please show the viewers where the money is going to. It iis not worth watching anymore... Always increasing the subs but have nothing to show for it...... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.48.157.162 (talk) 14:20, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Roger (talk) 14:25, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
IPA help wanted
I need help with adding an IPA pronunciation guide to the article Sophiatown. It is pronounced to rhyme with "so fire town" but without the "r" in "fire". The stress is on the second syllable Sophiatown. Roger (talk) 14:22, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Getting To and From Busan
There are ferries to and from Busan four times a day with a journey time of approximately 50 minutes, with additional services from the next port town, just south of Okpo and just a short taxi ride, called Jangseungpo. " (this information is old... there are no ferries to Okpo or Jangseungpo anymore. only the freeway with a bridge. This correction needs to be done on the Okpo-dong page 211.220.149.132 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:30, 13 December 2011 (UTC).
How to edit the facts/stats box on a City's Wiki page?
Hello. I'm with the City of Raymore (MO) and noticed some out of date information on the City's Wiki page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymore,_Missouri) that I'd like to update. Most fields appear to be editable, but the info box of stats located on the right side (box features the City seal, state map, etc.) of the City's Wiki page doesn't appear to have an edit option. A lot of the information in that box is several years out-of-date (population, councilmembers, etc.) and I'd really appreciate the ability to update this information. Please advise how I may edit this box. Many thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CityOfRaymoreMO (talk • contribs) 15:21, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- Enable Preferences → Gadgets → Add an [edit] link for the lead section of a page and save. When you edit the lead section, you will find it uses the template {{Infobox settlement}}; read the template documentation. that type of template is an infobox. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 15:33, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- ... or otherwise just click the "Edit" tab at the top of the page. Also, rather than showing the internet url http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymore,_Missouri as the link in your question, you can just use the wikilink [[Raymore, Missouri]] to give the link Raymore, Missouri. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:19, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Making a counter proposal to an active VPR discussion
Would it be okay to start a counter proposal to WP:VPR#Call talk pages "Talk" to rename the namespace from Talk: to Discussion: or would that be considered disruptive? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 16:34, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- I wouldn't call it disruptive but if you feel strongly about the change you'd like to make, then go ahead.
- Can I oppose in advance? Rcsprinter (chatter) 16:45, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- Let's see how the discussion to rename the tab to "Talk" develops first. I guess starting a similar discussion while that one is still open would be a bad idea. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 09:58, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
A FUNNY THING HAPPENED ON THE WAY TO THE MOON. This entire Wiki is not true and insults every person who worked on Apollo. Refrences: The Air & Space Museum of the Smithsonian, The National Geographic Society and the History Channel. Nothing in the above named Wiki is verifable. The following not only is true, it is verifable by every scientific museum in the world. There were 450,000 people working on Apollo for 23,000 contractors such as Boeing, IBM, North North American Aviation and more. Then there is NASA of course. The author is a convicted criminal and we have his police record. The proof that our Astronauts walked on the moon was just proved without a doubt by the pictures taken by a Japanese flyby close to the moon's surface. Clearly seen are three Lunar Landers, three Lunar Rovers and many footprints all around the equipment. During the moon walks, many scientific experiments were left to remain on the moon. I know, I was part of one. This particular one used a laser gun to measure the distance between the moon and Earth. It has been active for 40 years. This person was taped on the evening news assaulting Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong. I would post the 2 min video if I knew how. I have an Honors Degree in Mathematics and Astronomy. I was an engineer on the Saturn V during Apollo. I worked on the Trident Nuclear Missile Submarine. <advertisements redacted> I knew Dr. Wernher Von Braun. Sara Howard — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sara1861 (talk • contribs) 16:50, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- The article makes it clear that it's about a movie, and that it isn't to be taken very seriously. Acroterion (talk) 17:02, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Wikipedia is a wiki. What you are complaining about is an article in a wiki; an article about a notorious liar and/or nutcase. This help desk is for helping you use Wikipedia; it is not a venue for refuting a particular lie published in a bogus film years ago. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:56, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Request clarification in Example: close paraphrasing repaired
My query on close paraphrasing is here. Would appreciate if somebody answers it. Thanks. --Tinpisa (talk) 18:23, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Is this a copyvio or not?
See the discussion at Talk:Oolated Luck#Rule violation. User:Lots42 claims a retelling of the story's plot in the contributor's own words violates copyright, while I think only a direct copy-paste or scans of the actual comic would be a copyright violation. What is the situation here? JIP | Talk 18:46, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- Copy-paste descriptions or close paraphrasing are copyvios, but a summary in a user's own words is not. However, a summary shouldn't cover every little plot piece, since that can be considered a copyvio (See WP:Plot summaries#Avoiding violating copyright). You might also wish to see WP:PLOTSUM. Also, the article in question consists almost entirely of a plot summary, and I've tagged it as such. - Purplewowies (talk) 19:54, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Specific Commercial on 12/12/11 @ 6:47pm
There was a perfume commercial on TBS last night 12/12/11 at 6:47pm. I would like to know the name of the song which played during that commercial. Please and Thank you. Jill Ryan <contact details redacted> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.166.161.61 (talk) 19:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 19:18, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- As it explains at multiple points on this page, and the page you went through to post your question, this is the help desk for assistance with using and editing Wikipedia, not for asking questions about life in general. Sorry. Try Wikipedia:Reference Desk, though you'll probably need more information than just what time it aired in order to get an answer. --erachima talk 19:20, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
bio
a few people have made a page about me, along with about 10 articles written in various newspapers. Most of the data is correct (99%), yet a large yellow box explains that the data might be flawed or that there aren't enough postings to verify, etc.
bottom line, if its going to be up, and it has been for 3 years, how does my team get the yellow box down as the data has obviously been vetted by the public. otherwise, it looks like i did it to get attention and makes me look like less of a businessperson.
thoughts/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.228.213.136 (talk) 19:42, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- What is the title of the article - we can't help much without that. In addition, your "team" has a conflict of interest and is strongly advised not to edit the article. Changes to it should be discussed on the article's talk page. – ukexpat (talk) 19:47, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
i dont know how to use any of this so i am doing my best.
the page is "BLAKE WHITNEY THOMPSON"
don't worry about my team as they couldnt figure it out either. we just want to make sure it either goes away or appears accurate/legitimate. i have no idea where people got some of this data, but it is correct (ie mom's name).
thanks for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.228.213.136 (talk) 20:47, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- Blake Whitney Thompson (edit | visual edit | history) · Article talk (edit | history) · Watch
Category:Jin Yong characters' family tree error
There's a typo in this category, instead of Category:Jin Yong characters' family tree I typed free. Please help correcting it. (NeoBatfreak (talk) 21:00, 13 December 2011 (UTC)).
- Moved everything. A {{db-c1}}. should be added to the old category in 4 days.Naraht (talk) 21:14, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- I have deleted Category:Jin Yong characters' family free per WP:CSD#G7 (author request). PrimeHunter (talk) 21:24, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Image Use
Please help-
I am working on an article on a renowned biblical scholar, John L. McKenzie, SJ. 1910-1991. I have a photo I would like to use that must have been a publicity photo of some kind. He signed the photo and presented it as a wedding gift to a couple, personal friends of his. Other than that, I can find no way to identify who created the image. It does not appear in any of his published works. The WIKI policy on use of images is so convoluted and sometimes so lacking in internal consistency that I cannot resolve how to proceed, and I cannot afford the Philadelphia lawyer who might or might not be able to wade through this morass. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trixa J. Bombe (talk • contribs) 21:21, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- Is there anything on the photo to indicate when it was taken? Image use on Wikipedia is complex, but I am afraid that is a result of the complexity of copyright law. – ukexpat (talk) 21:43, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- Since the person is dead the image would qualify under the non-free use rationale if there are no free images that could exist. Otherwise we could add the image in 100 years and be certain that is is no longer copyrighted :) Ryan Vesey Review me! 21:53, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Spelling errors in section links (anchors)
Hi all,
In a nutshell: why do misspelled anchors appear as blue links, not red ones?
I came across a section link (since fixed) which contained a spelling mistake as the result of this sort of thing:
[[Spelling#Mispeelings|spelling mistake]]
which - slightly confusingly - takes you to the lead rather than the desired section. Obviously when you are editing, doing a preview will flag the error if you get the name of the article wrong (unless you are Dan Quayle):
[[Speeling#Misspellings|spelling mistake]]
but if you don't actually check the blue link because it appears to work like the Reel Thing™ (and if you ignore your browser's spell-checker), the result may be somewhat misleading. It seems that only your browser's status bar will indicate the nature of the problem when casually viewing the article itself.
Is this a bug/'feature'/not a common problem/just not worth worrying about/just fix it whenevs, OK? It seems to be related to Bugzilla reports on redlinks to deleted articles and redirects and changing section names, but I lost the will to live as soon as I saw the dreaded letters API. >MinorProphet (talk) 22:48, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- It's not so much a bug as a limitation of the existing Mediawiki software. It doesn't store a separate table of the anchors in each article, so in order to verify an anchored link it would have to search through the full text of each linked page. That's much more computationally costly than simply verifying that the page exists, which is the only test that is performed for turning a link blue or red.
- I agree that it would be a nice feature, however—are there any devs who want to jump in and add it? TenOfAllTrades(talk) 23:11, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- See bugzilla:16561: Make links to nonexisting sections being easy distinguishable. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:53, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- It is a rare joy and a pleasure to find such timely, concise and helpful answers as these. Thank you. I expected something as non-trivial as the task outlined in bugzilla:16561, and the remarks about making the software more *usable* are very much to the point. The JS fix on Polish Wiktionary seems interesting (can't do that either). I'd better create that Bugzilla account after all: I may be some time... >MinorProphet (talk) 04:18, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
"Connecting to bits.wikipemdia.org"
"Connecting to bits.wikimedia.org" for a minute. On every single page wikipedia serves. I know you use geodns, meaning that most the the users from this part of the world have been having this problem for over 2 weeks now.
Any plan on fixing it? Or at least, remove the dead server from the round robin DNS system please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.37.185.92 (talk) 23:31, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
December 14
Source requests
Is there a central location for me to requests sources that I am having a very hard time finding? A place where I can get in touch with the fastest and most proficient Wikipedia source hunters here? --Alatari (talk) 00:15, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Cool, thanks. --Alatari (talk) 00:18, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Image thumbnail spacing question
At List of Category 4 Pacific hurricanes#Category 4 Pacific hurricanes, I want to group the images on the right so there is equal space between them and there isn't excessive whitespace below them. Is there a template that can fix this? Thanks, HurricaneFan25 01:17, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Template:Multiple image may be what you want. The example given at Wikipedia:Picture_tutorial#Co-aligning uses two images, the maximum is ten. >MinorProphet (talk) 04:54, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
erasing username
I have being confused by errors on mobile site while creating username so when realizing what the problem is really - was too late to correct my username of my first choice. I tried to change or erase , but I can't see the option; either can't create "Boleslaw Komar" username as its too close to the one I have bein forsed to choose while geting an error on m.site for my Blackberry
So the question is - can I change user name or erase it so I can create new user name of my choice ? Boleslaw-komar (talk) 01:56, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- You can make a request at Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:02, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Donations
I read the appeal from Maryana Pinchuk and I entered all of my credit card info to make a donation. When I hit "continue" I got an error message that said "please provide a valid email address" and I could not go further. I double checked and there was no field provided to allow me to imput an email address! Plus, why not take donations without an email address? No one wants more spam. Anyway, with this programming error you won't be getting many donations, which is unfortunate. I love your site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.254.249.250 (talk) 02:11, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for your interest in donating. On the donation form with a Continue button, I have a field saying "Email address" in grey text before I write in the field. The grey text may not always be displayed when the field is empty. The field is right below the country selector. I'm not involved in fundraising and don't know details but you can email problems to donate@wikimedia.org (I see the dilemma in that if you don't want to give an email address). PrimeHunter (talk) 02:49, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
When I am logged out on google chrome
Whenever Wikipedia logs me out on google chrome it crashes the browser. Wondering if this can be fixed either by 1) not logging me out 2) fixing whatever it is that is crashing Chrome. Doc James (talk ·contribs · email) 17:01, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- I don't see any other users reporting the same problem with Chrome from Google. It may be all on your end. Have you tried clearing out your cookies/cache, restarting the browser, turning off modules, the usual stuff? -- Obsidi♠n Soul 19:26, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks will give it a try. It has been doing this for a couple of weeks now. Is there a way to just stay logged in all the time?--Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:12, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I personally don't use Chrome, but try clicking the "Remember Me" (or was it "Keep me logged in"?) tickbox when logging in, and make sure Chrome retains cookies even after you close it (in Firefox, this option is under the Privacy settings). Note however that it's not recommended for public or shared computers.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 13:01, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks will give it a try. It has been doing this for a couple of weeks now. Is there a way to just stay logged in all the time?--Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:12, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Content duplicated between pages
I noticed that the text in Amazonas in the Colonial Epoch is identical to the section Amazonas Region#The Colony. What's the policy here? Is it OK to have duplicated text or should it be removed from one or other place? Neither has any references, if that matters. --Colapeninsula (talk) 10:52, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I have redirected the former to the latter. – ukexpat (talk) 14:56, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Use of BCE and CE by Wikipedia rather that the proper use of the historically correct BC and AD
Can you please tell me why Wikipedia uses BCE and CE rather that the proper use of the historically correct BC and AD for dates. Use of BCE and CE is just a recent pc/secular trend which attempts to deny the historical traditional use of BC and AD. BCE and CE still use the date of birth of Jesus Christ for determining the date, so why try to deny this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.43.230.88 (talk) 11:52, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Wikipedia doesn't have a set policy on this. Some articles use AD/BC, some use BCE/CE, depending on what the editors of the article in question have decided is best. See WP:ERA. --FormerIP (talk) 11:55, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
I have a follow-up question. Can you please tell me why Wikipedia uses BC and AD rather that the proper use of the politically correct BCE and CE for dates. Use of BC and AD is just an obsolete historical/Christian practice which attempts to deny the modern trend towards use of BCE and CE. BC and AD are fully compatible with the earlier style and less offensive to non-Christians, so why try to oppose the trend? Hans Adler 12:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- See WP:ERA. If you have more questions, please discuss on that talk page. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 12:24, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
CSD R?
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/20px-Yes_check.svg.png)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/18px-Face-smile.svg.png)
Is there a speedy deletion criterion for redirects created by moving a page to the wrong title that was then moved to another title to correct that? Would that be a CSD R3? I feel I made a bit of a mess (see my contribution history). Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 12:15, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- CSD G6: "This also includes pages unambiguously created in error." If you haven't broken something
as an adminat least once, then you aren't doing anything. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 12:21, 14 December 2011 (UTC)- Thanks. Whom are you referring to with your last sentence? (Just wondering, since I am not an admin). Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 12:26, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Define English Person
Typing Define English Person into Google returns a link to a rude word. (See you next Tuesday). Can you tell me why this is? The Wikipedia entry in question must have contained "Define English Person" at some point in time when the Google index was created. If you want to know what I mean type "Define English Person" into Google. Can you help by removing this entry altogether? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.254.210.59 (talk) 12:35, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Google's search rankings do not depend entirely on the page content, but also on other sites that link to that content. This is sometimes manipulated to produce these strange results, as described in the Wikipedia article "Google bomb". Deleting the article would only harm the encyclopedia. Google may sort itself out eventually, but this is up to the folks at Google. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:44, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- You only get a Wikipedia article as result if you omit the quotation marks in "Define English Person". I see no sign that the article has contained that phrase. It contains the three words in different places and Wikipedia has a high PageRank so a Wikipedia article is often the first result in Google searches. I don't think a Google bomb would be needed to produce this random looking result. Wikipedia has no control over Google. The only way I can see we could probably prevent this result is to remove all occurrences of one of the three words from the article, but that would be silly when they all have good reasons to be there in their current context. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:54, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I reckon they will sort it out fairly quickly. Quite probably, the person responsible has already been sacked and is currently sitting in the Wikimedia Foundation offices waiting to be interviewed for a job. --FormerIP (talk) 13:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Wiki Page Layout
Not a question as such - but I suggest that you think about changing the page layout so that the main article title does not appear directly beneath the photo in the 'advert' asking for donations. Eg. I am pretty sure that Jimmy Wales 'et al' do not really want their photos directly above large bold titles such as 'Adolf Hitler', 'idiot' etc. Maybe I'm wrong, but just a thought ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.19.130.227 (talk) 13:17, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Just see what happens when you ask Google for the definition of an English person! --FormerIP (talk) 13:36, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Have just realised that this issue may not be visible to Members because they may not get the donation request at the top of their pages. Examples of the issue can be seen here - and yes, these are 'clean' and relatively amusing examples compared to some that arise, including Jimmy Wales et al's pictures directly above the 'answer' to Google's suggested best answer to the question 'define an English person' (which, btw, is racist in the extreme and would likely have been fixed in nano-seconds had it been the answer to the definition of an American person). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.19.130.227 (talk) 10:24, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I seem to have asked for help in the wrong part of the Village Pump
Is requesting new reports a technical issue? I posted at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#New_reports and seem to be getting ignored.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:27, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Editing the Article on "Circumcision"
I logged in, then tried to edit the Wikepedia article on "Circumcision" -- but the article has no EDIT button at its top. How do I edit portions of the article? Rabbi18 (talk) 15:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- That page is semi-protected so your account must be autoconfirmed before you can edit it. You can discuss your intended edits on the talk page until you are autoconfirmed. – ukexpat (talk) 15:13, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- You can also click the "View source" tab for information. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:25, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
New Horizons Governor's School
I and other of my staff have edited the listing at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Horizons_Governor%27s_School_for_Science_and_Technology. I need to prevent changes to this listing or remove it if that can not be done. Information was edited and added that was libel to staff, incorrect, racist and antisemitic. Thank you.
Winston Greenwell Network Administrator New Horizons Regional Education Center Governors School for Science and Technology
520 Butler Farm Road Hampton, Va. 23666 (Redacted) www.nhgs.tec.va.us (Redacted) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nhgs.admin (talk • contribs) 15:46, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Please see WP:OWN and WP:COI - neither you, nor anyone else, can control the content of an article. Under certain circumstances, articles can be locked to prevent editing, but at the moment that would not apply to this article. I have undone your changes as I do not see anything libellous, "incorrect, racist and antisemitic". Please use the article talk page to discuss any changes that you propose. – ukexpat (talk) 15:52, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Help as i good like to upload a picture that might help with an a article about Geograpic Toungue.
Hi i am 15 years old and have a Geograpic Toungue, and i would love to upload a picture to help the article as the article doesnt really say much about my type of Geograpic Toungue. As my Geograpic Toungue has spilts all over it. i tryed to read the page about information we have to email with our picture but couldnt really understand it. Please help as i would really love to send my picture though. (: Kindly Lacie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.226.65.130 (talk) 16:23, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Hi Lacie. We already have pictures of geographic tongue, but you can always upload another one by going to this page. But we can't promise to put it in the article. Try to make your picture as high-quality as you can, then it might stand a chance. Post at Talk:Geographic tongue once your picture is uploaded to let editors know it is available. Cheers.--FormerIP (talk) 16:31, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Systematically search for readlinks
Is there any tool that can be used to create a list of all redlinks on Wikipedia? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 16:29, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Go to Special:WantedPages and you will see them listed from the pages with the most redlinks to the ones with the least. The list is far too long for anyone to look through every entry. -- kainaw™ 16:45, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- That page is two years out of date. Wikipedia:Most wanted articles is newer, but not exactly what you are asking for. Perhaps ask at Village pump (technical)? -- John of Reading (talk) 16:57, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. I will bring up the question at VPT. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 17:29, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- That page is two years out of date. Wikipedia:Most wanted articles is newer, but not exactly what you are asking for. Perhaps ask at Village pump (technical)? -- John of Reading (talk) 16:57, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Template problem outside of my expertise
If you take a look at Special:WantedPages, there's a cluster of names beginning at around #40 with Jim Malley that seem to be there, not because thousands of redlinks in articles link to the names, but (I believe) because those names are embedded in some template or other (in Malley's case, one of two or three Ireland-related templates) and thus generate false reports of redlinks for every talk page which includes the template in question. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:01, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- If you click the number, then filter on Template space, you will see the templates responsible (for example Template:WikiProject Belfast). — Edokter (talk) — 17:07, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Food Grade Alcohol - I just want to know the list of names for alcohols that are food grade because I want to avoid petro alcohols in my shampoo, etc.
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There are many different types of alcohol, that have many different names. I just want to buy all my shampoo, conditioner, hair dye, and body lotions with only food grade alcohol. Therefore I need a list of the names. It might also be helpful to give me a list of petroleum based alcohols so I can avoid them, as they are carcinogenic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.191.190.22 (talk) 17:38, 14 December 2011 (UTC) |
- We cannot help with that type of question here, sorry. You could try reference desk, but please bear in mind the medical disclaimer. Best of luck, Chzz ► 17:40, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
why Basil Soufi
When I looked up Daphne Oz I got a picture of Basil Soufi with Daphne Oz's name under it. Why? Do I have to look him up to see her picture? (Redacted) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.214.250.16 (talk) 18:21, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I think you were seeing the fundraising banner. – ukexpat (talk) 18:36, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Problem with wikipedia title
I have just written an article for Wikipedia about the Presbyterian Historical Society. I posted it yesterday. For some reason, the very top heading given by Wikipedia that i can't edit says "Presbyterian historical society". How do I edit so it reads "Presbyterian Historical Society"? Dkoch76 (talk) 18:44, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I think I fixed it by moving it to Presbyterian Historical Society. You can read how to move a page by clicking the blue text that says "moving" before this (right after "fixed it by"). HurricaneFan25 18:46, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing it. It works now. Dkoch76 (talk) 20:03, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
This sucks badass
Sorry for this thread. I should have posted about this problem with a bit of a 'cooler head' than I did. And I agree that I shouldn't "fight against the way the system works". Lets see whether the VPR discussion leads to something. Thanks for the input to this discussion. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 09:40, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
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I try to paste the reference links from Boeing 777 to a page in my userspace. I cannot save the edit however, since one of the links triggers the spam filter. I want to paste the links to a subpage in my userspace to archive them. The edit filter preventing me from saving the edit however is a major annoyance. Is it possible to get a whitelisting from the spam filter for my account or something? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 18:59, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Do I have a chance to pass RfA when I only want to have the ability to circumvent the spam filter without a real need for the other tools? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 19:35, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
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RfC started
I started an RfC regarding this at WP:VPR#Create a new userright. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 20:48, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
all my posts have been deleted
All my posts have been deleted. Shouldn't there first be some discussion? All was truthful and had references. I thought Wikipedia generally was more open. If someone has gone in and removed everything, have I been branded and don't even know it?L509alumni (talk) 19:56, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- All your posts have not been deleted, here is a list of your contributions that haven't been deleted, Special:Contributions/L509alumni. In fact only 5 of your contributions have been deleted, 4 related to Lifebox and 1 related to Ralph waters. If you click on those two redlinks you will see an explanation of why they were deleted. Both were deleted because you did not explain in the article why these two were significant. GB fan 20:08, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)There are quite a number of posts and links on your talk page. Have you read them? Most seem to have to do with WP:SPAM. Have you read that link? You have not been "branded" but some editors may be on the lookout for your edits. Dismas|(talk) 20:10, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- What he means to say is that most of the content he has added has been removed. This is because there was issues with his references.--Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:13, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
RS?
Would this be considered a reliable source? I uploaded it to Commons; it originally came from the NOAA, was forwarded to the University of Illinois, and was re-published in Google Books. HurricaneFan25 20:06, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'd say no; it has no provenance. (And Google Books does not publish anything.) --Orange Mike | Talk 20:35, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Er, yes they did; I'll add the URL. :/ HurricaneFan25 20:45, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Meh, there's no permalink. :( HurricaneFan25 20:48, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- He means that Google Books doesn't publish them in the sense that they are not a book publisher. They make books published by other sources available (or partially available). It's like being able to read parts of a book on Amazon before you buy it. Amazon didn't publish the book, they only made a previously published book available for you to preview. - Purplewowies (talk) 21:15, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Hmm, this is it. HurricaneFan25 — 21:24, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- You can cite that book like this: <ref name="Center(U.S.)1958">{{cite book|author1=National Climatic Center|author2=National Climatic Data Center (U.S.)|title=Climatological data: Oklahoma|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=dE6Tptbj7VQC&pg=PA100|accessdate=14 December 2011|year=1958|publisher=National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, Environmental Data and Information Service, National Climatic Center|pages=100–}}</ref>, derived using this tool. – ukexpat (talk) 21:44, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Hmm, this is it. HurricaneFan25 — 21:24, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- He means that Google Books doesn't publish them in the sense that they are not a book publisher. They make books published by other sources available (or partially available). It's like being able to read parts of a book on Amazon before you buy it. Amazon didn't publish the book, they only made a previously published book available for you to preview. - Purplewowies (talk) 21:15, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Meh, there's no permalink. :( HurricaneFan25 20:48, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Er, yes they did; I'll add the URL. :/ HurricaneFan25 20:45, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Article
I am writing a page about a former Original Harlem Globetrotter Charles "Choo" Smith and it says I need to edit 10 pages before I can submit it. Is there any way around that. Thank You.
Dwalsh87 (talk) 20:39, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- That restriction does not apply to creating articles. I suggest that you create a draft in a user sandbox -- User:Dwalsh87/Sandbox -- where you can work on it until it is ready to be moved to mainspace. – ukexpat (talk) 21:12, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Or use the Wikipedia:Article wizard to help create the structure of a new article. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 21:19, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Your article is at User:Dwalsh87/Charles "Choo" Smith though in its current form is not acceptable as a main space article. There is still much work that needs to be done for it such as adding references, wikilinking, etc. Please read what has been posted to your talk page and view some of the links posted there. Dismas|(talk) 21:54, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Also the only reference is a self-published page, which is not considered a reliable source. —teb728 t c 22:37, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Please Remove Article not submitted or signed by me. Thank you.
Aloha Wikipedia Editors:
Aloha. This morning by coincidence I stumbled upon your article Zhou (Chou) Dynasty (see below) I believe was submitted by my brother Lester DK Chow and not by me. Although he is my brother, my family and I do not accept his views on this matter. He seems to mix historic events with his fantasy. I am the Director of Military Appreciation for AllForceMil.us Military News Magazine www.allforcemil.us Please delete my name from this article as it states that I was the one that submitted it to you (as published in Wikipedia: Keith D.H. Chow, User:KDHChow). I did not. This is totally inaccurate. Thank you and mahalo.
Professionally yours,
Keith D.H. Chow Director of Military Appreciation AllForceMil.us Military News Magazine www.allforcemil.us — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keith D.H. Chow (talk • contribs) <stale material redacted>
The material you dumped on this page is old discussions from Talk:Zhou Dynasty, dating back to 2007. None of it is attributed to you in any way.--Orange Mike | Talk 21:36, 14 December 2011 (UTC)- Sorry; it appears that you are claiming that User:KDHChow is an impersonation of you? We try to prevent somebody from impersonating you; but in some cases, you will need to prove you are who you say you are. You can do this by sending an e-mail to info-en@wikimedia.org; be aware that the volunteer response team that handles e-mail is indeed operated entirely by volunteers, and an immediate reply may not be possible. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:09, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Where is water measuring puzzle page?
You know those puzzles where you have two containers of different sizes? And you have to use them to measure out a certain amount of liquid? I know Wikipedia has a page for that. I read it long ago, and I see no reason why it should have been deleted since then. But I can't find the page for it. I've searched with every phrase I can think of, and looked all through the puzzles category pages. I can't find it. What is it called? Could someone link to it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.98.178.89 (talk) 21:58, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I know I've seen it as well but can't find it right now. I thought it would be linked off the page for the film Die Hard with a Vengeance since it was used in that film but the link is gone. Maybe this link will be satisfactory for you. Dismas|(talk) 22:11, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
How to create a shortcut if using same source?
On the Doha International Airport page, i am trying to source United Airlines's service using the same source but I keep getting an cite error tag" message. I went ahead and duplicated the source. How do I create a shortcut for the same source without duplicating it? Snoozlepet (talk) 22:02, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- You would "name" the reference. In the first ref tag you would put something like "<ref name=foo>{{cite template| blah blah}}</ref>" And then in each subsequent place where you want to use that reference, you would simply put "<ref name=foo />" Dismas|(talk) 22:06, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- You had missed out a double-quote character. I have added it. -- John of Reading (talk) 22:15, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Uhhh, i tried it and it still doesn't work. Snoozlepet (talk) 22:30, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Nevermind, now it works. Snoozlepet (talk) 22:36, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Unable to log in to my Wikipedia account
I have forgotten my password to my Wikipedia account. My username is AaronL. I have my password saved in my browser, but it is apparently not the correct password. I also no longer have access to the email address associated with the account, so I cannot receive email instructions for resetting my password. What can I do to recover my password and get access to my account again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.214.235.92 (talk) 22:44, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Can you use a YouTube video link as a reference or source for information for an article?
Can you use a YouTube video link as a reference or source for information for an article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rui78901 (talk • contribs) 23:10, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Generally, no. What are you trying to document? --Orange Mike | Talk 01:02, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- It depends. Content on official channels can be used for certain references, as can government videos and others. You can ask about a specific video at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 01:34, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Help with new article
I am somewhat new to Wikipedia, though i did author a number of articles. Can someone help me with Franklin C. McLean - particularly with putting it in proper categories. Dr. McLean is a notable physician but also active in de-segregation of minorities. I was actually surprised that no article existed of someone of his statue. Please help - feel free to go and the article yoursef :-) Standard2211 (talk) 23:10, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
I meant he was not that he is since he died in 1968. Apologies. Standard2211 (talk) 23:11, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
December 15
Working for Wikipedia
Hi,
I'm a great fan of Wikipedia. I was wondering if you sometimes hire researchers to help with the writing and research of your site's various articles?
Thanks for your time!
Cheers, Robert Inglis — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.224.233.233 (talk) 00:28, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- No. Wikipedia:Wikipedia is a volunteer service. Nobody gets paid. Jim.henderson (talk) 00:51, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Deleting my monobook.js page?
Is it possible to have this deleted? I created it earlier today, then decided I didn't want it anymore and that I wanted it deleted. Since it's a code page, it doesn't seem like adding the db-g7 template would do anything. Thanks. - Purplewowies (talk) 00:35, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- I believe you need to add the db tag to the talk page. Яehevkor ✉ 00:38, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- It is gone. GB fan 00:41, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. - Purplewowies (talk) 00:43, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Edit incorrectly attributed to me on Hindi Wikipedia
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I just discovered that an edit on the Hindi Wikipedia (creation of an English warning template [3]) appears on my global contributions history. I never made it, and in fact I doubt that I ever visited the Hindi Wikipedia before. The account was shown as "SUL: Account unattached", yet when I went to the Hindi Wikipedia I was automatically logged in as the user who made the edit. Since then the account is shown as attached.
This looks like a potential serious bug to me, but I don't know who to contact about it. Any ideas? Maybe somewhere on Meta? Mail to developers? Hans Adler 00:50, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- It looks like they transwikied {{Vandalism warning warning}}, but when they did so they only imported it from the single revision you made to the local template, rather than importing the complete history.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:59, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks! I completely forgot that one can import edits as well as pages, and I forgot that I had ever seen that template. Now it all makes perfect sense. Hans Adler 01:17, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- Anytime!--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:23, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks! I completely forgot that one can import edits as well as pages, and I forgot that I had ever seen that template. Now it all makes perfect sense. Hans Adler 01:17, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Unfair Practice
6 months ago I contact Wikipedia to see if Black Fig Vodka could be article created. I was told after 48 minutes of various editors talking on line that I could not without over a million dollars in sales for this vodka. Now I see Bacon Vodka listed and they have nowhere near a million dollars in sales. I now again appeal to Wikipedia to create an article for Black Fig Vodka. All should be treated equall and you are not. Thank you and I appreciate if this is revisited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.233.120.152 (talk) 01:26, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- Sales has little to do with the matter. What matters is whether Black Fig Vodka meets our notability and verifiability requirements such that an article can be created with cited information derived from reliable sources that are independent of the vodka brand and its promotion and which discuss the product in some detail. Where was this discussion? It sounds like it might have been on IRC but was it written out on this site? What was the name of the page if so? Meanwhile, most articles are created (if they should be at all) because someone is interested enough to sit down and start writing. Since we are all volunteers, even if Wikipedia could and should have an article on this topic, asking here for one to be created is not likely to get action. There is a forum for requesting articles but when last I checked it was not very well staffed. One can also write an article as an IP through Wikipedia:Articles for creation or you can signup for an account and attempt to write it directly. However, please note our conflict of interest page (I suspect you may be involved with this brand), and also note that if an article is written like an advertisement, and fails to cite to reliable sources, it may very well be deleted rather quickly.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:22, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Help please with a new article
I created a new article Rufus Cole. I am new to wikipedia, and would appreciate the help. Thank you Standard2211 (talk) 02:22, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Birth date discrepancy
On Matthew Moy, the birth date seems to have triggered a dilemma for verifiability. Someone keeps putting 1984 (honestly, he doesn't look 27), with no source, when it used to say 1994, sourced from a Twitter post (Moy said "Turning 17 today") But a user added a note claiming that he was not serious about 17. So, now I have hid the info, until a source is provided. I also made a comment on the talk page, but wasn't sure if there'd be any feedback. What is the best thing to do? Tinton5 (talk) 02:57, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- Until you can find a reliable source, there's not much to do. See for example, WP:DOB. Dismas|(talk) 03:13, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- A (non-reliable) source for 1984 is http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3211555/ —teb728 t c 03:30, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- As noted, IMDB is not reliable. For more on that, see WP:RS/IMDB. Dismas|(talk) 03:44, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- A (non-reliable) source for 1984 is http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3211555/ —teb728 t c 03:30, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Update abd correction to a user article about my enterprise
Dear Wikipedia Help Desk,
Please refer to URL link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Liwumi/Ecco2_Corp
The current article shows a few statements that are not fact or out of date.
<-----CURRENTLY THE WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE DISPLAYS----->
ECCO2 Corp. is a Texas based non-profit organization dedicated to assisting in climate control in the US and globally. The company recently gained accreditation from the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change. Under the sister company of DBS Distributor the product lines of ECCO2 and ECO Systems are manufactured and distributed. For the past 9 years, government agencies worldwide have used ECCO2's patent technology to reduce greenhouse gases output by all motor vehicles, fossil fuel generators, and boilers. Major carbon emission reduction projects are in development in Haiti, Austria and Nigeria. (www.ecco2corp.org)
ECCO2 Haiti: A program developed to reduce greenhouse gases, create employment and help to rebuild the nation of Haiti. Working in conjunction with the Prime Minister to accomplish mission of economy restructure.
ECCO2 Nigeria: A program developed in efforts to reduce greenhouse gases, carbon emissions, stimulate the Nigerian economy, and increase confidence in Kyoto Protocol. Working with Nigeria Minister of Environment John Ogar Odey to achieve goals.
<-----END OF ARTICLE----->
<-----THE ECCO2 ARTICLE SHOULD READ AS FOLLOWS----->
ECCO2 (acronym for Environmental Control of Carbon Dioxide) is a corporate interface for universal clean technologies that are sustainable, reduce carbon emissions, and energy efficient in residential homes, commercial buildings, and transportation.ECCO2 solutions consist of multiple partnerships with active companies that manufacture late stage technology grids that have displayed several years of proven results in the marketplace. The company has partnered with major job recruiters such as Manpower Corp in anticipation to create thousands of new jobs opportunities; something that is currently much needed in the US and many other parts of the world.ECCO2 brand is associated to for-profit entity, DBS Distributors, Inc. and non-profit sister companies, Fuel Concepts Pty Limited (Australia), ECCO2 Corp, and Center for Climate Change and Environmental Studies (Nigeria), that are also observer organizations for United Nations.
The company's highlights from the past two years include project development in Haiti (ECCO2 Haiti Foundation), which was supported by both, Haiti President Michel Martelly and Prime Minister Jean-Max Bellerive. Earlier last year ECCO2 formed alliances with non-governmental organizations and government agencies in Africa for clean development mechanisms to generate carbon credits that would be used as a source of financial aid for ECCO2 projects in developing countries.
The company has been seen in Wall Street Journal, featured in Forbes Magazine, and several other major media outlets such as MSNBC, CNBC, CNN, USA Today, and Yahoo News.
<-----END OF ARTICLE----->
ECCO2 has many more news releases and editorials that can be found on our media/news page at http://www.ecco2tech.com/news.html
Other facts about ECCO2
Headquarters: Austin, Texas Year Founded: 2009 (Sydney, Australia) Founder: Cary Lee Peterson President & Chairman: Cary Lee Peterson — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.28.82.19 (talk) 04:23, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- The page you refer to is a draft article being written by User:Liwumi. If you have any proposed improvements, you could suggest them at User talk:Liwumi, together with references to reliable sources (like the Wall Street Journal or Forbes Magazine or CNBC (but not when they print press releases)) that verify your proposed change. Bear in mind that the organization and its press releases are NOT reliable sources. You should also know that if your version were in an article, the article would be speedily deleted as promotional. —teb728 t c 05:05, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Sons Of Anarchy Founders
The article about the tv series "SONS OF ANARCHY" lists several names as the founders or "First Nine" of the club. I would like to know who authored that information, because as a fan of the show and I own the three seasons that have come out in dvd, there has not been any mention of the founders except John Teller, Clay Morrow, Pierpont "Piney" Winston, and Keith McGee. Could that author substantiate that information? Thanks! Joe Thornton <email removed> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.130.119.105 (talk) 04:37, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- Look back at the old versions of Sons of Anarchy from its version history. The version history shows the editor of each version. —teb728 t c 05:34, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Joe Arpaio
I've tried to enter a response to another comment about Sherrif Arpaio. It was TOTALLY generic, it simply said "agreed" to a comment I was trying to reply to which originally said "my hero" about Sheriff Arpaio. Upon trying to enter my SMALL comment, entering ALL the information that was asked for, and my ONE WORD RESPONSE, which could hardly be considered incendiary or inflammatory or insulting, I got a message that said my email address had been PERMANTLY deleted from the site. May I ask why?
Mark Manozzi [details removed] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.127.140.90 (talk) 05:01, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- The removal of your email had nothing to do with your comments. Your email was removed for your own safety; publishing your email address on a public website like this means that it will be used to spam you, or steal your identity, or to otherwise invade your privacy. To prevent this from happening, emails, and other personally identifying information (phone numbers, house addresses, etc.) are removed. You did nothing wrong, per se, except to ignore the warning pasted at the top of the page where you posted your message, explaining exactly that. --Jayron32 05:13, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- I suggest you create a user account. Then, people will be able to contact you via email through Wikipedia, without you needing to reveal your email address. Chzz ► 09:19, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Upload resume
I want to upload my resume and history of my City in Nigeria. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.127.54.75 (talk) 05:47, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm afraid you are mistaken. This is Wikipedia, an online encyclopedia and not a place to host your online resume. You may be looking for a website like LinkedIn instead. --Jayron32 06:03, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- But you are very welcome to contribute historical information to an article about your city (or even create such an article if it doesn't exist), provided that all the information you add is referenced to independent reliable sources and is not original research or copyright violations. --ColinFine (talk) 08:09, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
black listed
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The user name "IKnowEverythingAboutAnything" has been banned from creation as it matches one or more blacklisted character strings.
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this message pops up when i try to log in to the commons. why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by IKnowEverythingAboutAnything (talk • contribs) 06:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- They might be able to help you better at Commons:Commons:Help desk. You don't need to be logged in to post there. Mention that you do have this account on English Wikipedia. —teb728 t c 07:29, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- I think, probably, the question can best be answered by a Bureaucrat on Commons - so I have asked on Commons:Commons:Bureaucrats' noticeboard#"IKnowEverythingAboutAnything" blacklisted. Chzz ► 09:06, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- The answer from Commons is that a username there cannot have more than 30 characters, including the User: namespace prefix. —teb728 t c 01:55, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Rollback links in watch list
Is there a way to disable the rollback links in my watchlist? They don't play well with a touchscreen and fat fingers. Yworo (talk) 08:24, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- One option is, of course, to remove the 'rollback' permission from your user account. But maybe you want it, just not on that one page?
- I think that's a bit tricky, so I'll ask over on the Village Pump/Technical...please see over there for replies...
Chzz ► 08:58, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Cary Capparelli
There is a public interest page titled: Cary Capparelli
It included information on him as a candidate for political offices.
Within the last 3 weeks someone changed the photo. There is now a photo of Mike Quigley who was an opponent in one of the elections. The information was also changed to generic information about Quigley winnning a congressional seat.
The photo needs to be removed as it is not Cary Capparelli and the information should be returned to its former copy - OR - change the title of the page to Mike Quigley. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.34.22.142 (talk) 08:55, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
There was an article titled R. Cary Capparelli (or Cary Capparelli).
It was an accurate article and professionally written.
About 3 weeks ago it was removed. One can assume it was removed by a political opponent.
This article should be returned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.34.22.142 (talk) 08:59, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- On 21 November, Jerzeykydd (talk · contribs) "merged" the article on Mr. Capparelli into the election article, by changing it into a redirect, with this edit. That's fine (we encourage bold editing) but, because I cannot see any discussion about it, I have undone that [4], which has restored the article Cary Capparelli.
- Please discuss it on Talk:Cary Capparelli#Merger. Thanks, Chzz ► 09:12, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Logged out of facebook on my PC ,GRAND SON LOGGED IN
My grand son used my PC and is loged into my facebook. How do I remove him off my PC and re-log into my face book ON MY PC HAVE ALSO FORGOTTEN MY PASSWORD -this Granny needs help- Mrs Christine Erasmus Many thanks ,much appreciated — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.177.50.118 (talk) 10:21, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
"Second 2011 Editor Survey"
I'm an experienced user, so I'm baffled to be baffled.
I had a message appear at the top of a user talk page I was editing, mentioning the "Second 2011 Editor Survey" and telling me to click "here", warning it may be the only time I see the message. When I clicked "here", the message had indeed disappeared, but I was back on the user talk page I'd started at.
After a bit of head scratching, and searching, I have no idea what's going on.
Any ideas? --Dweller (talk) 11:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- Does this article in The Signpost help any? The banner was taken down shortly after it began to appear. RJFJR (talk) 15:31, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- Think the article is about a different banner, RJFJR. --FormerIP (talk) 15:35, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- I am still investigating this issue. If anyone else experiences this, please report it at meta:Research_talk:Wikipedia_Editors_Survey_November_2011 Also, as PowerIP pointed out, this survey is not related to the Harvard/SciencePo study in any way. Akhanna (WMF) (talk) 21:01, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Personal Appeals
This could be the wrong place to post this message, but I find your personal appeals at the top of the page a bit creepy. It looks like a scam. I'm not sure if its the graphics or what, but I feel like you are pressuring people for money every time I go on your website! Admittedly I use wikipedia quite a lot to quickly gain information, but do not feel I should have to pay a monthly fee to access this! If I wanted to spend money I would not be on the internet, I would be in a book shop buying an encyclopaedia. If wikipedia didn't exist, it would just take a bit longer to trawl through other websites to get information. No biggie. I think you should take a leap out of Facebook's ideas. Probably the most used website in the world, and the adds don't bother me AT ALL. I use it everyday, facebook makes money, advertising companies are happy. Every one is happy. Just whack some adverts on your site to break even! you don't have to do it for profit. No-one will care!! I know you have your morals, but have some business sense!
Hope this helps,
C
(Could you pass this on to the right people if this is the wrong place to post it? Thank you kindly) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.19.126.18 (talk) 11:23, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- I will certainly pass your message along to the Wikimedia Foundation, yes.
- However, it's really the Wikipedia community which has - after lots of discussion - rejected adverts. Part of the reason is, because we strongly want to keep it neutral. You can see some of the reasoning in WP:PEREN#Advertising. Chzz ► 11:36, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- I have now copied the above to Meta:Talk:Fundraising_2011#Comment re fund-raising copied from English Wikipedia help desk. Chzz ► 12:06, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Convert to excel
I would like to take a table on one of your articles and put it into an excel table. Copying and pasting did not work. Is there an easy way to do this?174.254.192.231 (talk) 13:45, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not aware of a converter for the special wiki source syntax used to generate tables. and simply copy/pasting from the displayed article doesn't seem to work. However, if I save the article in HTML format, Excel can then open it and does correctly translate the tables into rows and columns of cells. DMacks (talk) 17:07, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
How can I use GLNF inside an infobox without screwing it up?
Is there a way to use {{GLNF}} without screwing up infoboxes? See for example this edit where I replaced an infobox image with the GLNF template. Is there a solution that makes this template work with infoboxes? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 15:45, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- No, I don't see how it could be used with infoboxes such as {{Infobox scientist}} where the "image" parameter is just the name of the image file. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:55, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
why is my FACTUAL edit of IPPOLIT wikie deleted and BLOCKED
IPPOLIT (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
if the one who blocked me will come forward they might learn something useful and FACTUAL NOT in the wiki instead of acting like some jumped little HITLER
THESE ARE FACTS Source codes are released by the authors / makers & Decemberists . In Febuary 2010 windows compiler Peter Pan brought Ippolit to Worlds attention when his compile (mod63 )of Decemberists source code IvanHoe 999963 Beta became the fist MP Engine to break Rykba 3 domination of computer chess by becoming the then worlds strongest chess engine Note * Decembrist-57703 and VadimVolkov were instrumental in making the original source code that Peter Pan compiled for windows (other windows compilers ie Leonardovinci , Vlad0 , K.L.O and more have continued to keep Ippolit /IvanHoe on centre of world computer chess's stage Ippolit ( Robbolito )derivative Houdini is presently the Worlds strongest chess engine — Preceding unsigned comment added by Angels 77 (talk • contribs) 16:39, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- This may very well be factual, but we don't add material to articles without published reliable sources to back them up. Find these, and it can go in the article. And on the subject of 'learning something useful', after you have read WP:RS, read WP:NPA. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:45, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Login Unification
I have been making edits for some time as Tearaway in en.wikipedia.org and I just made a Wiktionary edit and wanted to unify my accounts to be able to indentify myself for this and any other future Wiktionary edits. Apparently, I can't unify my account since the same user name "Tearaway" has a home account at de.wikipedia.org.
Is there any way around this? I would be OK with changing my own user name, but would like to preserve my existing account, rather than starting a new one, if possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tearaway (talk • contribs) 17:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- You are in luck - according to this report you only need to make four more edits to overtake the German account. Once you've done that you should be unify your accounts; you will then own the "Tearaway" account name in all projects except the German one. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:08, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Great, thanks! I'll make the edits tonight, I have some I have been sitting on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tearaway (talk • contribs) 17:25, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Need help creating/requesting a page for a book
Not sure if im asking this in the correct area, but I am unable to find a wiki page for the book "Young Years: Best Loved Stories For Little Children" I wanted to ask someone to make one or help me make one as i'm not extremly good with these things, but i couldnt figure out how to request it... Thanks in Advance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.21.30.4 (talk) 17:21, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- Firstly, please read Wikipedia's criteria for notability for books. If you believe that those requirements are met, please provide reliable sources to justify that contention. If you are contemplating writing your first article, try reading WP:Tutorial and WP:1st. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:30, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Ive tried reading all of that plus quite a few other links but i dont understand 95% of it which is why i asked for help actually doing it rather then attempting it myself — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.21.30.4 (talk) 18:16, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- If you are trying to convince someone of the subject's notability in order to persuade them to write such an article, you might care to note that while a Google search for the phrase "Young Years: Best Loved Stories For Little Children" finds only one relevant hit, if you change the search phrase to "Young Years: Best Loved Stories and Poems For Little Children" you will find many more results. You might try adding your request to Wikipedia:Requested articles/Arts and entertainment/Literature, but you will see how long the queue of requests is. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:34, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I want this pic deleted
Hi i was just experimenting and never intended to upload this picture [5] but unfortunately i got confused and uploaded it at wikimedia commons...can you PLEASE delete it right away? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SoapJar21 (talk • contribs) 18:07, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- I have tagged it for deletion. You may get some automated messages at your talk page; just ignore them. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:25, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Account unavailable
Why is my account temporary unavailable?please help — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.0.8.224 (talk) 18:24, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm afraid this isn't enough information for me to answer properly. For help with logging in to a Wikipedia account, see Help:Logging in. If the account is at some other website, then you will need to look at that website's help pages. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:28, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
AD's on WikipediA
It is SO Freaking hard to find out how to simply ask a question or comment on this site! I see that I'm not alone in the matter. Someone else quoted it a "Maze". Agreed. Anyway as a loyal reader, I wouldn't mind advertisements on your site. Then members can choose to block them, where as non members would have no choice. If donations do not do so well, Please, Please consider selling AD space to save WikipediA. I'd rather a stupid banner... then NO WikipediA at all. PLEASE Don't just take my word for it: Set up a petition and ask the people (Ad's or NO WikipediA), I bet you'd be surprised. Keep up all your great work everyone! Digital Hunny — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.7.188.67 (talk) 19:01, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- You are apparently assuming that the donations are not sufficient. They are. There is no need for ads. -- kainaw™ 19:10, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- Additionally, I don't know why everyone has such a hard time about a banner at the top of the site every few months. The donation scheme has worked for National Public Radio here in the States for decades as well as for other non-profits. I really don't see the problem. And adding an advertising department would just add to the overhead of the organization. You'd have to have people making phone calls and knocking on doors to sell the space, those same people would have to field questions about "Why was my ad put on such and such article?!", and then there'd be all the coding involved. With a simple banner, all they have to do is throw the banner up there and then point people to the donation software to accept payments. Am I the only one who saw the header for the section and thought "What's an AD?" and then tried to work out some sort of acronym involving Administrators? Dismas|(talk) 19:20, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- I am interested in why you found it hard to ask a question. We have lots of pages, each for asking different kinds of questions but, by now, I would hope our guidance would lead you to the right one. Where did we fail? Rmhermen (talk) 19:49, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not quite sure why people who object to banners at the top of the page every few months are all in favour of replacing them with... banners at the top of the page all the damn time. Additionally, Digital Hunny, if you set up a petition and asked the people who actually do the "great work" of which you speak whether they wanted ads or no further work on Wikipedia, I bet you'd be surprised. Although I'm a low-level editor, I certainly can't see myself sticking around if the WMF gave in to advertising agencies trying to monetise the project. Brammers (talk/c) 00:06, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
- See also Wikipedia:Advertisements, which is an FAQ-ish page about why there aren't AD's on WikipediA. --Colapeninsula (talk) 11:29, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Case sevsitive
because case sensitive restrictions limit information to users on searches and re: in this common era, please stop with the case sensitive restrictions on searches. these case sensitive restrictions on searches add unnecessary heartache time waste and unneeded frustrations. thank you for your consideration on this matter. i am an english teacher. kevin c. watkins san francisco, ca [details removed] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.10.71 (talk) 20:46, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- If you press the "Search" button, case doesn't matter. The "enter" key on your computer defaults to the "Go" button, which will take you to the article or redirect with that exact name. If there isn't one with that name, it takes you to the search results page. - Purplewowies (talk) 03:41, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
"Jack" McCall
So Called Jack McCall was my great uncle and your article on him is riddled with errors. I would like to correct some of those errors but don't know how do do that. Would you let me know how to do that?
His name was Julius (he had a twin sister named Julia) and his sister Mary Jane was my Grandmother.
I would be happy to supply you with complete information on Julius McCall if you will tell me How to do it.
Thank you,
Howard C. Hallford [details removed] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drofllah (talk • contribs) 20:49, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for your concerns Howard. We are indeed interested in getting it right. Assuming your great uncle is the same Jack McCall that killed Wild Bill Hickock, the article at Wikipedia could certainly use some help. The one thing it absolutely needs is reliable sources (please read Wikipedia:Reliable sources so that any information in the article will be verifiable (see Wikipedia:Verifiability. What we need is good sources to cite. The idea is that Wikipedia should not be a publisher of original research (See Wikipedia:No original research), but rather should merely aggregate or collect information which is published elsewhere. If you have access to written, published, and reliable source material (books, magazines, journals, reliable online sources, etc.) which have more accurate information about Jack McCall, you can add pertinent information (in your own words, of course) and then cite those books or magazines as the source of the information. If the technical aspects of doing so are daunting for you (it can be for new users), then you can leave a message at Talk:Jack McCall with the updates you would like to make and the sources of your information, and another person may come along to work your information into the article. We are quite interested at Wikipedia in "getting it right", and we're always looking for other people to contribute who are as well. --Jayron32 21:09, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Help is sought with a new article.
Please help with new article - thank you in advance Standard2211 (talk) 21:47, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for your creation of this superb article! I have done some cleanup and proofreading. If you have any specific questions, feel free to post here again. Goodvac (talk) 23:10, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
CONCACAF Women's Gold Cup
I am trying to change the title to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CONCACAF_Women%27s_Gold_Cup
The CONCACAF Women's Gold Cup took place in 2000, 2002 and 2006. Starting in 2010, the tournament was called the CONCACAF Women's World Cup Qualifier (it was not called the Women's Gold Cup). How do we change the title of this article?
We also need to change the title for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_CONCACAF_Women%27s_Gold_Cup
Thank you Richard Scott National Teams Communications, Canadian Soccer Association, <redacted> (editor's note - yes, I was there and brought home the trophy to Ottawa, so I can send a picture to confirm that this was not a Gold Cup tournament / the last Women's Gold Cup was in fact 2006). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.210.173.222 (talk) 22:24, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
December 16
more help is sought with new articles - feel free to edit them as you please
Tables with multiple consecutive conditional rows
Hello, I can't figure out how to make multiple rows on a table conditional when the default for each of them is blank. In this example, Two/Three won't work because Two will have an extra line break whenever Three is absent and misalign the text. Five/Six won't work because Six won't recognize its first line break because it's before the text. Eight/Nine won't work because Nine won't recognize the line break in the default of Eight without any text in the parameter. What should I do in these cases? Thanks.
{|class="wikitable" |- |One {{#if:{{{2|}}}|{{!-}} {{!}}Two|}} {{#if:{{{3|}}}|{{!-}} {{!}}Three|}} |- |Four {{#if:{{{5|}}}|{{!-}} {{!}}Five|}}{{#if:{{{6|}}}| {{!-}} {{!}}Six|}} |- |Seven {{#if:{{{8|}}}|{{!-}} {{!}}Eight | }}{{#if:{{{9|}}}|{{!-}} {{!}}Nine|}} |}
—Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 00:01, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
- You should always start a result on the next line:
{|class="wikitable" |- |One{{#if:{{{2|}}}| {{!-}} {{!}}Two|}}{{#if:{{{3|}}}| {{!-}} {{!}}Three|}} |}
- The problem with that is that it doesn't recognize that the result has started until the first character, ignoring all spaces and line breaks before the first character. It reads the {{!-}} as a pipe on the same line, and then a hyphen, giving me "|One|-", which resolves as a hyphen with the style "One" applied to the column. It then starts a new line with "|Two|-", and a third line with "|Three", resulting in this table:
- | - | Three |
—Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 04:12, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia logging me out
I have tried different methods to keep Wikipedia from logging me out on chrome as every time it does it crashes the browser. Is there anyway to keep Wikipedia from logging me out a couple of times a day?Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 04:00, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
- Are you clicking the stay logged in for 30 days box? - Purplewowies (talk) 04:09, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
- Did you see the reply to your question at #When I am logged out on google chrome? —teb728 t c 05:59, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
asp.net
on button clicked there are two process i want to give first preference to particular process than how i do it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.170.7.47 (talk) 04:36, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Computing reference desk. They specialize in answering computer questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. —teb728 t c 05:55, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
External links
I was recently editing a page, and put a link to facebook (this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Styn) my whole edit was taken down by the bot. I undid it and took out the fb link, as that was the only thing listed. Is the rest of it fine? I was looking over the page of another favorite author, and saw that they had a link to a facebook fan page. Is linking to that okay? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pizzamancer (talk • contribs) 04:59, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
- Most but not all facebook links are inappropriate. See the guideline at WP:FACEBOOK. —teb728 t c 05:47, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
- The rest of the edit looks fine, adding an infobox and some referenced information. I have removed the second external link, though; the Wikipedia content guideline on External links is stricter than many editors realise. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:42, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Picture
Hi..i was just experimenting with this pic [6] on Wikipedia. Now that i have, could it please be removed straight away? I am aware it isn't suitable and violates copyright etc. etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luckygambi (talk • contribs) 05:45, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
- You could tag it {{db-author}}. —teb728 t c 05:50, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
- Deleted. An optimist on the run! 07:52, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
What is Wikipedia
hi am lalitha what is meant by wikipedia. what type of information we get by using this. and by the by wht kind of questions should we ask. please inform me about this — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.248.164.209 (talk) 09:13, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia built by volunteers over the internet. In order to read more, please see Wikipedia:Introduction. This page (the help desk) is for all kinds of questions regarding using, editing and reading Wikipedia. If you have any further questions, please feel free to ask. 217.91.113.188 (talk) 10:03, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
- See also the Wikipedia article on itself. —teb728 t c 10:46, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Inserting Umlaut and Accent symbols
How do I insert the German Umlaut symbol or the French Accent above letters when editing English text? Lankyrider (talk) 11:39, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
- When editing, click on "Special characters" which is just above the edit window. You can select accented characters from there. Alternatively, you can configure your computer to allow you to type them directly. For example, on my Windows 7 PC I can press ALT-CTRL-e to get é and, with the 'language bar' enabled and Japanese installed, I can switch to hiragana and type だいじょうぶ. The input methods will depend upon your specific computer software. Chzz ► 11:43, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
- Hmm, I get €. But I have my keyboard set to US International. Typing accents is then automated, e.g. type an accent sign, then the letter will produce the right character. For example, typing ' then e gives é, and typing " then o gives ö. — Edokter (talk) — 12:11, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
- (e/c) You can access numerous characters like this by going to the drop down menu below the save page button when you are in edit mode. See the Latin menu especially. We also have article on many characters (e.g., É, Ě, Ë) and you could bookmark the category they are in, Category:Specific letter-diacritic combinations which contains many. Maybe better, try Category:Writing system templates which contains for example {{Latin alphabet}} and {{Diacritical marks}}. These can also be placed by looking up their HTML codes. See this site.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:21, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonshine partial undeletion request
The reference list has been missing after two revisions after 12.35 GMT 16/12/2011. Can the page with previous reference list be restored? Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gobechara (talk • contribs) 13:28, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
- I figured out that you don't mean the article Moonshine, you mean the article Moonshine by country.
- The problem was, you'd inserted a <ref> with no corresponding </ref> at the end of it.
- References should be placed directly after facts, within the main body-text. The system automatically lists them as numbered references. For example,
Chzz is 98 years old.<ref> "The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. </ref>
- See WP:REFB for help with that.
- I have undone your two edits, so Moonshine by country looks OK again now. Cheers! Chzz ► 13:39, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
How do i email an article i like — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leebeeb (talk • contribs) 13:37, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
- Send the other person an e-mail with the URL of the article you like. As a matter of policy, Wikipedia doesn't have any Facebooky features for social-media-style "sharing" of articles. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:43, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
- See User:TheDJ/Sharebox for an optional feature for registered users. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:39, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
moving a page
I am trying to move the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savasana to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shavasana but I can't quite figure out either A) how to do it or B) how to request that it be moved by someone smarter than me