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I wrote this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Abhijeet_Sinha_Sinha/sandbox but it got declined due to inadequate reliable sources. I edited it again and attached reliable sources. But Its not getting any response from editors, I don’t know how to send it or make it visible to editors. Please help.

Abhijeet Sinha Sinha (talk) 20:57, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Organizing aritlces in sandbox

Wh46 2013 (talk) 17:28, 20 January 2013 (UTC) I created an article(Wassim Michael Haddad) in sandbox and it has been published. However, I mistakenly created several other same pages(User:Wh46 2013/Sandbox, Wassim M. Haddad, Wikipedia:Wassim Michael Haddad). Can anybody help me to delete or remove them? I already put proposed deletion. But I still want the deletion faster, as they are really confusing.

Another question. The wiki link for the published article is "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wassim_Michael_Haddad". Can someone help me to change it to "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wassim_Michael_Haddad"? Wh46 2013 (talk) 17:28, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Hey! Thanks for the new article! I've taken care of the redirects by removing the redirects, and requested that the one page beginning in User: be deleted, as that user doesn't exist. Don't worry, your article should still be fine. If you have any other questions, don't hesitate to ask me! gwickwire^talk_edits 17:54, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

I didn´t found the way to ask for a English to Spanish translation of an article and need help to do so.

Hello,

I´ve read Emmanuel Jal´s Wikipedia english version article, but I am spanish speaker, and thing it will be useful for spanish language natives to access a spanish version of the article.

In "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Translation" I found that sentence: "To request a translation of an English Wikipedia article into another language, click on a sidebar link to do so at the appropriate foreign-language Wikipedia."

Following that indication I went to "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Jal" looked at the sidebar, and under Languages didn't found a "Spanish" Link. How my I preoceed to ask for that traduction then ?

I aknowledge in advance any help you can bring me on this,

Cordially Marcelo Mas, Montevideo,Uruguay 190.135.23.40 (talk) 14:32, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello Marcelo! I'm not exactly sure on the Spanish Wikipedia's policies regarding translation, as I only do work there sparingly, but it should be fine to use the article in the English Wikipedia to translate it into Spanish. When it meant a sidebar link, it meant on the Wikipedia:Translaton page, not on the original page :) That should to take you to es:Wikipedia:Transliteración or something similar. Then you can request it there. gwickwire^talk_edits 17:57, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

This was an easy confusion to have given the language in the banner at Wikipedia:Translation, so I have made this change (we'll see if it sticks).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:29, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Formatting Wikipedia articles

Where can I learn easy to use formats for pages, that can be given a more attractive look? Does Wikipedia offer any course for such a need? Ajayupai95 (talk) 13:15, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Ajay, do you mean your user page or article pages? If it's article page then how they look and are laid out is guided by the Manual of Style and you should follow the layouts laid out there. If it's your user page you want to style then you need to check out the User page design center which will probably contain most information you want. NtheP (talk) 14:34, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Inventing a Wikpedia bot language

(Discussion moved) --Carrot Lord (talk) 07:40, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Carrot Lord. Your thoughts and efforts are appreciated, but this is a forum for answering newcomer's questions, and as such, this would probably be better posted at the Village Pump. Thanks. Gtwfan52 (talk) 07:48, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Ah sorry about that. I wasn't aware that was what the Village Pump was for. Thank you. I will remove this content and move it over. --Carrot Lord (talk) 07:59, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

About subpages and user pages

I have taken a look at Wikipedia:Subpages. However, I am confused on a few points:

1. Is there a limit to the amount of data that you can hold inside subpages of your user page? For instance, right now I only have 1 or 2 sandbox-style articles that are not my own user page, but would there be a maximum limit on the number of articles a user space can hold?
2. Is it really possible to edit common.js to change the way your user page and subpages work? How would you execute custom JavaScript? Is that possible on Wikipedia?
3. Do content forking rules, such as "don't make a fork of some article to avoid NPOV" apply to sandboxes?

Thanks for the help! --Carrot Lord (talk) 05:59, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello Carrot and Welcome Back.

Sandboxes and Subpages are places where you can make test edits that cannot be added to the article space. Most users also use them to develop articles (that would otherwise be deleted at that time) to meet Wikipedia standards and then move them to the article space.

No. There is no upper limit on the amount of data/ number of sandbox/user pages that you can have.

I have no idea about how common.js works. You may try and look at the codes of the Common js [ages of a few users to see how it works. Here is mine

No. The user page is your own and you have absolute liberty over it, save a few boundaries (like hoax, vandalism etc). So you need not worry about those rules. But if you are developing a page to send to the article space, it would be a good idea for you to meet all the rules and guidelines while your article is in the userspace (Or you might have it deleted once you take it to the article space)

Hope it helped.

Cheers,

TheOriginalSoni (talk) 06:10, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi, again, Carrot Lord. You can use your userpages pretty much as you wish, but remember, no matter where you are writing, be it your userpage, your talk page or in a sandbox, everything on Wikipedia must conform to BLP policy. Wikipedia is very insistent that anything written about a living person be sourced to reliable sources. Gtwfan52 (talk) 07:52, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

However, fictional items such as fictional people and fictional cities would not require any sort of BLP, right? (Note: still talking about user sandboxes, and not actual articles) --Carrot Lord (talk) 08:24, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

No. Fictional people do not have BLP. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 08:32, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

How to replace/update an existing image without creating a new page? i.e. adds to chronology/thumbnail instead

This is to do with a problem with the graph chronology for next UK election. Note: when a small image appears, hover over it with your mouse to read the complete the sentence.

Ok, so this page has always had a chart but due to the continuous updates with the addition of new polls the chart needs updating every once in a while. This has meant that there are now an abundance of unwanted/out of date files on wikipedia, which should really belong in the chronology of the . As you can see from the chronology all is well for the chronology of that page until it stops at May 2012, the final update.

The next image to be uploaded was a , this chart and the were used simultaneously for a period. That is until the data for 2011 and 2012 was updated to the 30px|talk page to accommodate the new format (due to the addition of UKIP's column). This is a recent occurance. I was the one that uploaded the new data a few days ago, I also created a to see us through until we could get a new version of the favoured chart to cover May 2010-Present Day.

A exists, this preceded my chart, it was made in error, I discovered the lines were too thick for interpretation, therefore this image needs to be deleted, as it is in effect a duplicate. I do not know how to delete this image, or suggest deletion, can someone help/delete it for me? I'll see to it that there are comments on that page.

Since my chart was uploaded, I have uploaded the data to the talk page, for User:Wavehunter to update the chart that preceded mine to include the data from 2010 and 2011. The reason for this is that Wavehunter's chart was the one that had consensus. In the meantime Impru20 has uploaded . Since then Wavehunter has uploaded his updated chart which is now (by consensus) the .

To summarise what I need help with doing/for someone to do for me:

All of these listed graphs need to be added to the chronology of the and not be as separate pages. In chronological order the follow should be added to the chronology:

• (or deleted)
• 
• 
• (current)

Note: Please do not include: the as it is useful on other pages and does not fit in the chronology (as does not include 2010or11!

I would really appreciate someone doing this for me, as I am likely to make a mistake with it being multiple edits and my 1st time doing this. Could you also leave a note explaining how to do this for future reference on the talk page for the benefit of myself and future editors.

I also want to know how to do this so that I can use my new skill on another page, I have another picture that I need to replace/update but I want to do it properly! So once I know what I'm doing and once someone has done this for me I will be able to see to things like this in the future.

Many ThanksSheffno1gunner (talk) 21:55, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Sheff, welcome to the Teahouse. There are a number of things that could be done. One would be to create a category that contains all these images so they could be seen together. Another, and this maybe what you are referring to is to upload a new version of an existing file. This is an option for any image and at the bottom of the image page you get a thumbnail view of all the previous versions. The advantage is that you don't have to keep changing the article the image is used in as the image file name remains the same. The disadvantage is if someone wants to maintain a static link to one of the previous versions of the image elsewhere. I'd suggest that if you want to do this you raise it on the talk page of a candidate image page and leave a note at the original editors talk page as well. NtheP (talk) 16:20, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

This didn't answer my question! I was indeed talking about the 2nd thing you described with thumbnails. Could you please tell me how to link all these images under 1 tittle with one set of thumbnails as you described. All you have done is described back to me what I had described to you, except in better terminology! That was not at all helpful! I will ask this for the 4th time on wiki (in various places) HOW DO I DO THIS? Please cut the crap and just tell me! I'm not studying for a degree in bullsh1t so please spare me the opening lecture!

All images apart from the 2012 image need to be included as they replace one another! How do you this? Or could you do it for me?Sheffno1gunner (talk) 05:44, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Replied on the talk page TheOriginalSoni (talk) 07:48, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

How to link to sections of sections?

Hi, I'm new to Wikipedia, and I have a question regarding section links.

I already know how to provide links in Wikipedia articles to sections of other articles, but how would I create a link to a section within one of these sections, such as one with a heading of "===(text)==="?

I would greatly appreciate your response.

JPaestpreornJeolhlna (talk) 04:35, 20 January 2013 (UTC)JPaestpreornJeolhlna (즈팻프럴느 젏흘나)JPaestpreornJeolhlna (talk) 04:35, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi, JPaestpreornJeolhlna. Welcome to the Teahouse. The easiest way is to click on the section title in the Contents of the article. For example, in the Article National Audubon Society, the society's journal, Audubon magazine, is last in the Contents box. Click on Audubon magazine and then look at the link shown in your browser. You will see: "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Audubon_Society#Audubon_magazine" Use the part after "/wiki/" as your link. The link "National_Audubon_Society#Audubon_magazine" is used in several redirects. If you put Audubon (magazine) or Audubon magazine or Bird Lore (a former name of the society's magazine) into the Wikipedia search box, you will end up at the same place. Hope this helps, DocTree (ʞlɐʇ·cont) Join WER 05:21, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to Wikipedia,

The procedure for linking one of the sections inside the section is the same as the one for the sections themselves. See where this link goes - Earth#Weather_and_climate.

Hope this helped.

Cheers,

TheOriginalSoni (talk) 05:23, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

I definitely recommend you read WP:ANCHOR which outlines several ways to accomplish this, and encourage use of the {{anchor}} template because section headers are changed at times which would break the link while an anchored link remains functional. --My76Strat (talk) 05:45, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

How do you make background information box

Tedakaemod (talk) 01:31, 20 January 2013 (UTC) With color and no inner lines.Tedakaemod (talk) 01:31, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

how would I look at existing usernames?

for signup, how would I look at existing usernames? example wwwqwww 69.248.170.139 (talk) 00:16, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I'm glad to see that you're interested in creating an account! You can go to Special:ListUsers and search for the username there. In this search you can see that wwwqwww was created in 2008, but hasn't edited at all. Ryan Vesey 00:23, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Square brackets in URLs

I am having trouble getting one of my references to format properly in the page that I am working on at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Mandolin Society. The URL has square brackets in it. I've tried both the usual "ref" format and the "cite" format, and the whole URL is not being accepted, only the part up to the square bracket. Is there a trick? —Anne Delong (talk) 21:59, 19 January 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anne Delong (talk • contribs) 21:57, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Anne, welcome back. As you've realised the square brackets in the URL mess up the reference formatting. The trick is to replace them with a percent-encoded code. For square brackets replace [ with %5B and ] with %5D. If you have problems with these or any other special character have a look at Help:URL or come back and ask here. NtheP (talk) 22:33, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Anne. I had fixed them and was coming her to tell you how I did so and NtheP beat me to the punch. The answer to this issue is also provided in the documentation for the citation templates. See e.g., Template:Cite news#URL. See also Percent-encoding. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:38, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia video tutorials (Feedback welcome)

watch?v=Swund4B3-2k&list=PLO-lWlZQoUgvnAwawLZRZAOGEbi5ZOzb9

Put www.youtube.com/ in front of that page query. This is a playlist on YouTube describing how to use Wiki Markup.

Constructive criticism is welcome. Would this be useful for people who have not tried MediaWiki markup, or not? What can be improved?

In this video, we construct a new article known as interdimensional being, add some scholarly citations, and much more. We encourage newcomers to begin by editing existing articles, and then move on to creating articles (notable ones) only when they are experienced enough.

2 out of 4 videos have been uploaded as of this writing.

Thanks for any responses. --Carrot Lord (talk) 15:28, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Could not really understand the sound, as it was too soft. You might also want to see this - Outreach Bookshelf, Video Tutorials and Videos on Wikipedia --TheOriginalSoni (talk) 15:52, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

How loud is your volume, and which operating system are you applying?

I usually use a Windows 8 with 51% of the maximum volume (live speakers). Do not attempt such a level of volume if you have headphones or earphones. --Carrot Lord (talk) 15:55, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Full volume and on speakers. W7. Doesnt really happen with other videos. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 15:57, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

That is extremely weird. By other videos, you mean YouTube content by other people, correct? --Carrot Lord (talk) 15:59, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Yes indeed. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 16:01, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

References - question

If the same reference is used several times in an article, how do you format to prevent duplication in the reference list? Case in point: Sarah Reinertsen Sportygeek (talk) 08:06, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Sportygeek and welcome to the Teahouse. References can be given a "name" by adding <ref name=Test> to the reference tag. For example, instead of...

<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.challengedathletes.org/atf/cf/{10e89006-a432-401e-bc75-805e68ce5c27}/SarahReinertsen.pdf|title=Sarah Reinertsen|publisher=Challenged Athletes Foundation|accessdate=18 Jan 2013}}</ref>

...it could be...

<ref name=ChallengedAthletes>{{cite web|url=http://www.challengedathletes.org/atf/cf/{10e89006-a432-401e-bc75-805e68ce5c27}/SarahReinertsen.pdf|title=Sarah Reinertsen|publisher=Challenged Athletes Foundation|accessdate=18 Jan 2013}}</ref>

After a reference is given a name, they can be added again anywhere in the article by clicking "Cite" → "Named references" in the editing toolbar. See the screenshot below for an example. For more information, see WP:Named references. The Anonymouse (talk | contribs) 08:54, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

I found that one (and will use next time!). It's not really ease of adding references I'm concerned about, tho - more an unnecessarily long (because of duplication) reference list. Would named references fix that? Other ways? Sportygeek (talk) 09:37, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

After naming a reference, it can be used anywhere again with the code <ref name="Test" /> without being duplicated in the reference list. Basic steps:

1. Name (all of?) the references
2. Replace the duplicates with <ref name="Name of reference" />

Sorry if I can't explain this well – it's rather technical.

The Anonymouse (talk | contribs) 09:47, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

I'll try it and see what happens. I understand naming things (done some web design/basic web dev), but I'm a total Wikipedia newbie. Sportygeek (talk) 10:10, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

I have tried to remove some of the duplicates. See if you can make sense out of them!

Cheers,TheOriginalSoni (talk) 10:23, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Note: you can use the 'Error check' button (see toolbar image above). ~E:74.60.29.141 (talk) 07:14, 20 January 2013 (UTC) P.s.: It found one and I repaired it. ~:74.60.29.141 (talk) 07:22, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Major Revisions

How appropriate is it to make major revisions to an article? I've been looking at trying to revise the article Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act for at least an hour now, and I'm not exactly sure where I should begin, since this is my first real attempt at trying to fix up a Wikipedia article. Part of me just wants to get in there and go all gung-ho English Professor on it, but I'd like to get some feedback from the rest of the Wikipedia community before I just start fixing huge chunks of an article. Henrythekittie (talk) 07:15, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Henrythekittie and welcome to the Teahouse. Here on Wikipedia, we have a saying "be bold", which means something like "just do it!". You can make as big of changes as you want, and any mistakes can easily be corrected or undid by you or other users. Also, if you need any specific editing help, feel free to ask here, or contact me at my talk page. The Anonymouse (talk | contribs) 07:29, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Another possibility is to discuss the changes you want to make on the article's talk page, where people interested in that article are likely to see it. --ColinFine (talk) 12:33, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

How long before unaccepted articles are deleted?

I have tried 4 times to get a Wiki page accepted for the Bosman Twins. They are accomplished, EMMY Award Winners and are respected musicians within the Jazz Genre. Wikipedia has allowed pages for other jazz musicians with much less in terms of history and credentials. I am so confused. What am I doing wrong? I put a lot of work into the article and I don't want to lose this valuable history. How long can I keep the article in the sandbox as I find additional 3rd party sources to support my case?

108.203.30.123 (talk) 02:27, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi there and welcome to the Teahouse! There are many criteria an article must try and meet to remain on Wikipedia. Where is the copy of the article that you are currently working on? Which sandbox are you using? You can, in theory, keep your content in the sandbox for as long as you need but if other people come and use the same sandbox your content will be overwritten (you will still be able to see it in the history tab). It might be a good idea to create an account and then create a user subpage for the article and work on it there. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 02:40, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

It exists at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Dwayne and Dwight Bosman. Ryan Vesey 02:44, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

So, the good thing is, articles created through articles for creation aren't deleted while they're there so you have forever to work on it. The article needs a bit of work to match Wikipedia's tone and style, it reads a bit promotional right now. I did some checking and I'm fairly certain they're notable, so I asked for some elaboration from the editor who most recently declined it. By the way, I listened to their music on their website and it's great. Ryan Vesey 02:57, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

I think it really depends, if WP:SPEEDY is applicable. My first article on Wikipedia was nominated for speedy deletion in approximately five seconds after page creation. Right now, that first article has been reduced (again!) to stub status. --Carrot Lord (talk) 15:08, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks so much for the help and for welcoming me into the community. I was beginning to feel really defeated. I can continue to work on the style and hopefully get it accepted next time. 108.203.30.123 (talk) 18:54, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

How do I get the footnote numbers to appear in the "Notes" section?

If you take a look at the article on "Solomon Kimball House (Wenham, Massachusetts)" you'll see that the footnote reference numbers appear inline with text, but don't appear in the "Notes" section. What am I doing wrong?108.20.20.229 (talk) 01:03, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi there! Welcome to the Teahouse. I am guessing that you mean in regards to Solomon Kimball House (Wenham, Massachusetts) which looks like you have just managed to add the references section. To get the list simply add either <references/> or {{reflist}} to the bottom of the page and this will add your reference list with numbers! ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 02:33, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

How did you manage to do that? Anything within reference tags will create a big red YOU DID NOT PUT A REFLIST OR REFERENCES AT THE BOTTOM

warning. Anyway, <references /> can have a space between the slash and the word, just like in HTML5. Moreover, please do not forget that references is plural. MediaWiki will not understand <reference />, which is singular. --Carrot Lord (talk) 15:04, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Donation system

I am very confused about how to donate to Wikipedia. The system does not accept my credit card, no matter what.

I have started editing Wikipedia in order to try to improve it using my "time" instead of my "money". However, this does not give the same feeling of achievement when some of your money goes into bettering Wikipedia.

Does anyone else have this issue? Or does anybody know how to help? --Carrot Lord (talk) 23:39, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

• Hi Carrot Lord, thanks for stopping by. I went to this page for problems with donations. There could be several problems like your bank flagging the transaction or something else. Check out the page and see if any of these address the issue. You can also e-mail donate@wikimedia.org if none of those solutions apply. Also, thanks for donating! I, Jethrobot ^{drop me a line} (note: not a bot!) 00:52, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

article for deletion

Hi, could you help me to improve this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Leonard,_Jr ? It has been considered for deletion. Thanks Dishv80 (talk) 20:51, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Dishv80! Welcome to the Teahouse. I think the article you mean is Earl Leonard, Jr.? (you left out the period after Jr :) ). I'll be happy to take a look and will get back to you! Gtwfan52 (talk) 21:19, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Yes, my mistake. Thanks a lot.Dishv80 (talk) 21:33, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi, again. I took a look at the article, and the problem as I see it is it does not have any references that would show his notability. In order for an article to be on Wikipedia, there is a requirement that others have written about the subject in reliable sources. As you were told at the AfD discussion, there doesn't seem to be any. He has to have been discussed in some sort of media that has a vetting or fact checking process in place. That is generally newspapers (or their websites), magazines, books, or radio or television news websites. I know who this guy is and it seems weird that there aren't any sources out there. You may have to go to a library and look through old business magazines or newspapers. But unless you can find some reliable source references to show his notability, I don't see much future for this article. Gtwfan52 (talk) 21:54, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

OK, I understand. Thanks a lot agaiin. I'll search again Dishv80 (talk) 21:59, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

I found a citation in a book attributed to him. The book was written by President L. Johnson, but I can't say as I understand what the document being cited is or whether it would be usable. [1] Perhaps one of our college student hosts can be of some help? I would suggest that whatever you search, you make sure you search without the "Jr.", too. Gtwfan52 (talk) 22:07, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

News Sources (many are pay to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution) [2] and [3]--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:23, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

list of article in different language

hi any one no atool that gives you a list of article in different languages Thanks for your help ثامر مبارك (talk) 20:26, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, ثامر مبارك! There's no special tool to give you the list, but there is a way. Go to any article you want to see in a different language. Look to the left, where it says "Wikipedia" and has the logo. Keep looking down until you see the word "Languages". There will then be a list of the different languages it is in, with links to get there.

For example, if I went to the page Simon Delestre and looked to the left, I would see the word "Languages". Under that would be the words "Français" and "Deutsch". If I clicked on "Français" I would be directed to http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Delestre. Happy editing! öBrambleberry of RiverClan 20:35, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

You could use the Global Wikipedia Article Search tool but it is of limited usefulness because it will only find articles at the exact same title as the title entered (though if the other language article has a redirect from the title, it finds that). It may occasionally find entries that users (and bots) have missed when compiling interlanguage links.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:43, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK Criteria

Hi,

I've read that articles nominated for DYK need to be written in the last 3 days. Does it still count as the last three days if I work on an article in userspace for more than three days, then move it into article space, then nominate it for DYK, would that still be OK?

Thanks,

^King Jakob _C 18:41, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, King Jakob C! The answer is that yes, it counts. The article just has to have been released in the article space in the past three days for it to count. Keep in mind that this is not the only DYK criteria and you may have to change some more things about your article. Happy editing! öBrambleberry of RiverClan 18:42, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

It's five days, not three. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:05, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

A lil help with making decisions...

How can I find out whether the source I quoted and added as reference was found to be useful and noteworthy.... How can I receive feedback about my contributions and edits???Ajayupai95 (talk) 18:22, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Ajayupai95! Generally, if your edits aren't removed and you aren't notified that something you did wasn't useful or trustworthy, it was useful and trustworthy. You shouldn't worry about whether each and every edit you make is helpful, because if they told you that every edit you did was helpful, your talk page would probably fill up. If it makes you feel better, would you like to show me the contribution you're referring to? öBrambleberry of RiverClan 18:46, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Cleaning out sandbox

I drafted an article in my sandbox that was published (Daniel James (Businessman))but my sandbox still has this article in it and it is synchronised or "redirected" with the publishd article. I do not want to delete the sandbox article without checking with someone in case it damages the main article. Can someone help?

Sidpickle (talk) 17:34, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello. Deleting or removing Redirects does not do anything to the page where it is redirected. You may freely remove the redirect link from your sandbox. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 17:37, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

I have removed the redirect for you! Cheers! TheOriginalSoni (talk) 17:38, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Oops replied to wrong reply. Thanks for your help

Ted

Sidpickle (talk) 17:43, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

How do u delete an article?

Hello, I am new to Wikipedia page and I was working on adding an article on an organization called Scarborough Arts. Somehow I ended up making the title of the page as User:Faizaarts instead of Scarborough Arts. I was looking for help to change the title and when i read that i could redirect the ARTICLE. I have even done that. As of now, I want to delete the article and start a new one. Can someone guide me to delete the article? Thank you Faizaarts (talk) 17:23, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Does everything look fine now? The article is here -Scarborough Arts TheOriginalSoni (talk) 17:35, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello Faizaarts. What you need to do is to move the article, not redirect it. There's an option in the top menu under the little triangle to "move" the page. See the image at right. That should cover the technical aspect of moving the article. However, the question you didn't ask, but should have is "Is it a good idea to move what is written here to the article space". The answer is an unambiguous no. If you did move that to the article space, it would quickly be deleted, as the article gives no indication it meets Wikipedia's minimum standards for inclusion, and the tone is wholly inappropriate for an encyclopedia. I suggest you read Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations which will help explain some of the problems. --Jayron32 17:31, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you Jayron. Since I am new to wikipedia and only 2 days old. I dont have the authority to move the page. I have wait for 4 days and do 10 article edits. Thank you for the help overall. Faizaarts (talk) 17:42, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

I have moved the article to Scarborough Arts TheOriginalSoni (talk) 17:47, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Deleted as a copyright violation. I will explain to the user, and will also explain why, as Jayron32 says above, this is not an encyclopedia article anyway. JohnCD (talk) 19:53, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Suspicions and concerns about Priory School, Isle of Wight

On Priory School, Isle of Wight, there are a lot of problems. Most of the references appear to be closely affiliated with it, and the edit history shows that most of the edits come from users who make a lot of edits in a short time to this one article, and have no other contributions on Wikipedia. There are also some formatting issues, but every time I add template messages, they get removed by the same editors I mentioned before. I've put something on the talk page, but so far I think the only people who view it are those same suspicious editors.

Am I reading too much into this, or is there something fishy going on? It looks to me like maybe a person closely associated with the school is promoting it (lots of the content seems to be along those lines), or maybe students doing school assignments or something. Could somebody take a look, or tell me what else I can do about it? --Kierkkadon ^{talk/contribs} 15:29, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

I think you're right. I've commented on the article's Talk page. but it does read like an Ad-! Basket _Feudalist 15:51, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Kierkkadon. Welcome to the Teahouse. I have added the page to Wikiproject Schools. If you go to their page here, they maintain a list of artticles that need emergency attention. Thaat should get you some help with watching it. Gtwfan52 (talk) 16:58, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

This is getting out of hand - I have requested that the article be semi-protected temporarily.--ukexpat (talk) 17:11, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

WP:BLP1E

I am a little confused with regards to the policy WP:BLP1E. I think I read somewhere that sufficient notability would override the 1E rule, which is why we have articles on chubby aviator wannabes who kill John Lennon one fine day. Then why is it for some cases, similarly (or even more) notable people like Dr. Conrad Murray (who definitely gained worldwide recognition for killing Michael Jackson) don't deserve their own article? What's the distinguishing? Cheers. Bonkers The Clown (Nonsensical Babble) 13:50, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Heya Bonkers, welcome back. The distinguishing difference is the focus of the writing in the source material. Does source material sufficiently cover the life of the person in depth, or does all source material only cover the event, and mention the person in superficial detail. Now, Mark David Chapman is certainly always connected to the Lennon assassination, however as evidenced by our article, there's sufficient source material about his life outside of that one event for use to use to fill out an article about it. It isn't that he's only famous for one thing, it's all about the source material available to fill out an article. BLP1E isn't about why a person is famous, it's about what is known about a person: if all we know about them is that the did that one thing, and nothing else about them, then there's not enough reliable source information to build a fully-fleshed article. --Jayron32 14:16, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

That policy has been at the center of discussions of Victoria Leigh Soto, the teacher caught up in the Newtown school massacre. Ultimately it was decided that she was worth an article, based on the massive amount of news coverage. Coretheapple (talk) 15:29, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

How do I recover deleted article

I posted an article into arabic version and it was deleted as it is not suitable how do I recover my text, the message that I got

هذه الصفحة تم حذفها. سجلا الحذف والنقل للصفحة معروضان بالأسفل كمرجع.

07:11، 18 يناير 2013 Zaxo (نقاش | مساهمات) حذف الصفحة رهيف حاكمي (مقالة غير موسوعية: المحتوى كان: 'الدكتور المهندس رهيف حاكمي رجل أعمال سوري و يشغل حاليا المناصب التالية: * رئ...)Rahif Hakmi (talk) 08:46, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Rahif. We have no ability to take action at the Arabic Wikipedia which has its own processes and administration. Here's a few links that might help: ar:ويكيبيديا:بوابة_المشاركة/قاعة_الشاي/أسئلة is their Teahouse; ar:ويكيبيديا:مراجعة نقاشات الحذف is the Arabic equivalent of what we call here deletion review; ar:ويكيبيديا:سياسة_الحذف is a page that explains deletion policy; and ar:ويكيبيديا:إخطار_الإداريين is their administrator's noticeboard. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:26, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

It was Shariapedia Basket _Feudalist 13:59, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

How do I fix the formatting on my inline citations?

I'm a new contributor to Wikipedia and my first article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meyer_Malka) has a note saying my inline citations aren't properly formatted. Can someone help me figure out what is wrong with them and how to fix them? Lagirl24 (talk) 06:51, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

• Hey Lagirl, thanks for swinging by The Teahouse. It looks like there's some details missing about the references in your article, which should be included in footnotes when possible.

There is a "Cite" toolbar at the top of the edit window which allows you to automatically generate the required wiki code.

You click one of the templates, e.g. "book", and fill in the details.

More information can be found in Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners or the citations tutorial (the below video will play best in Firefox or Chrome):

Hope this helps, I, Jethrobot ^{drop me a line} (note: not a bot!) 07:36, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

How can I help?

Hey, is there a way I can help Wikipedia? please leave your answer on my talk page here Thanks- Fishtank1 (talk) 00:47, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

• (I've responded on their talk page as requested). I, Jethrobot ^{drop me a line} (note: not a bot!) 07:25, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Finding image of a notable person

I am working to improve a page on an author born in my region (1915-1981). I have seen newsphotos and photos on the dustjackets. How can I locate an image that can be used on Wikipedia?Maineshepp (talk) 00:42, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Maineshepp. You can try Free Image Search Tool, a Wikimedia Toolserver bot to "Search for free images to add to Wikipedia articles" (tool link). ~ I haven't tried it, but it seems like it would be helpful. ~Eric F 74.60.29.141 (talk) 03:44, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Sportsperson infobox

I'm obviously made a mistake in formatting this one: Clare Cunningham (athlete). Compared my markup with similar boxes that are working, and can't find the problem. Can someone help? Sportygeek (talk) 23:07, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

urgh - I did not mean for that page to be live immediately!! Obviously belongs in AfC or userspace. Signed, embarrassed newbie. Sportygeek (talk) 23:12, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi and welcome to the Teahouse. The problem clearly lies within the medal templates, as I've removed them and the infobox shows up fine. Not to worry, I've moved your wikicode for the medal templates here, so it's not lost. I am not an expert in these kinds of things. Hold on a minute. Go Phightins! 23:15, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Sorry. Real life issue. Can someone else mess with this please? I have a RL problem. Go Phightins! 23:17, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Sportygeek, it's fixed for you. Fourth line from the bottom you had {{MedalGold| 2009 Gold Coast | TRI 4 - this just needed closing with }} to sort the issue. NtheP (talk) 23:28, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I've got a related problem I need help with now (sorry). Person who was both a medal-winning athlete and a contestant on The Amazing Race. I can manage to get either one of those things to show, but not both at the same time. Sarah Reinertsen Sportygeek (talk) 05:11, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Sporty, looking at how the article is now it looks like you are trying to use |television=The Amazing Race 10 to show her appearance on the show? There's only one problem with that and that is that the template {{Infobox sportsperson}} doesn't support the parameter |television= - the best I can manage is to use |other-interests=The Amazing Race 10 although the output doesn't look so great to me. I'd be inclined not to include this information in the infobox at all, it's mentioned in the text and there is the navigational template about Amazing Race contestants at the bottom of the page anyway. Infoboxes don't have to record every fact about their subject just the highlight/headlines. NtheP (talk) 14:01, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

When I first looked at the page, the info box didn't any sport info in it, just The Amazing Race. At one time, the page was actually nominated for deletion due to non-notability. Ummm... not quite. *shudder* Sportygeek (talk) 14:13, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

IP address

I accidentally made an edit using my IP address and I was wondering if there was anything I could do about that? The Giant Purple Platypus (talk) 22:51, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Hey, and sorry about that, it happens to the best of us. See WP:Oversight for information on how to have the edit taken care of. You'll need to send them the link by e-mail, and they'll take care of it. :) gwickwire^talk_edits 23:02, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Purple Playtpus. That advice is useful if you want to hide personal information. But if you are asking how to have the edits re-attributed to you, that can no longer be done. If you are willing to make your IP address public, you can make a dummy edit in which you identify yourself as being responsible for the edit you accidentally made with an IP.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:41, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Adding a personal page? Deleted twice :-(

My daughter has been part of two movies and her name appears both on IMDB and in Swedish Filminstitute database. The moviepage (Once upon a time in Phuket) has her name and when I tried to add very basic information about her this was deleted twice even though I made reference to both the sites. Why is this? All the other actors and actresses have their personal page so what is different? Erfo02 (talk) 21:14, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello Erfo02, and welcome! The standards for maintaining a stand-alone Wikipedia article are not based on what someone has or has not done in their life, but rather on the existence of reliable source texts which we can use to help us write the article. Websites like IMDB and the Swedish database aren't anything more than directories: they prove that a) your daughter exists and b) that she has had jobs. There's nothing at either site which represents reliable scholarship about her life beyond those two facts. Now, if there are extensive biographies written about your daughters life, and those biographies were written by respected scholars and published in respected sources, then you have some good sources to use to write the article. This concept at Wikipedia is explained at Wikipedia:Notability. The entire point is that Wikipedia articles need to be based on reliable scholarship so that people can verify the contents of Wikipedia articles. If the major facts of your daughter's life aren't published anywhere except Wikipedia, then later readers will have no way to verify anything that is written here. That's why we need good sources, and having a name in a database isn't enough of a source to hang an entire article on; most of the Western world has their name listed on a website somewhere, but that doesn't make every employee of every company listed on every website automatically valid subjects for a Wikipedia article. Does this help answer your questions? --Jayron32 21:25, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

I agree with Jayron, except for one quibble: it doesn't have to be scholars and scholarly work. In-depth articles in reliable newspapers ormagazines would be just as good. --ColinFine (talk) 12:23, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

How do I determine an article's "Class" for a WikiProject template?

A number of articles related to one of the WikiProjects I'm part of seem to have outdated information in the WikiProject template on the talk page, i.e. class =Stub even after the articles have been expanded and improved. I would like to change the class, but I can't find any guidelines to help me determine what is a "C," what constitutes a "start" and so on. How can I tell what the appropriate rankings should be? Sarasays (talk) 19:56, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Sarasays! If you follow the link to the Wikiprojest that is also in that template, there will be there somewhere a guide to assessment, which tells you the criteria for each level of quality for an article. It is the same for every project, so you will only have to look once. Gtwfan52 (talk) 19:59, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

A-ha! Here it is. Score! Thanks Gtwfan52! --Sarasays (talk) 20:07, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Closest

I know nothing comes close, but whats the nearest rival to wikipedia in terms of collaboratively edited, free Internet encyclopedias with a general scope? Pass a Method talk 19:28, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Don't ask ...it's probably a p*rn site!!! Basket _Feudalist 19:47, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

On a [more] serious note, as an example of how WP has the market cornered, try Goggling 'rivals too Wikipedia', and welcome to an entire page of WP links containing the word "rivals", but not addressing the specific query! Fair enough eh... Basket _Feudalist 19:51, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Free access or free reuse? Does it have to be in English? Baidu Baike and Hudong are in Chinese and have free access but not reuse. Both have more articles than the English Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:52, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

how to upload picture in article

how to upload picture in article 106.222.132.252 (talk) 18:37, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi and welcome to The Teahouse. Help:Introduction to uploading images has the information you need. If you are the person who took the photo or have permission to use it for any purpose, not just on Wikipedia, you may upload it to Wikimedia Commons. If you can justify fair use of the photo, you need to Wikipedia:Upload to Wikipedia, which requires you to sign up for an account and be autoconfirmed, meaning you need four days and 10 edits from the time you sign up.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 22:23, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Article rename / infobox alteration.

Hi Teadrinkers, just a quickie, re: this article Martin O'Connell (Irish republican).

• It needs to be renamed as per WP:COMMON to Joe O'Connell (Irish republican) as Joe rather than Martin was the name he was familiarly known by (as the image shows)- I tried moving the article to a new page but it wouldn't let me;
• Also I tried C&P & editing the Martin McGuinness infobox (there's a suggestion box at the top of the page for one) into this article but a lot of the sections don't show up. But I couldn't find a specific template.

Thanks for the help!

Basket _Feudalist 16:16, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello Basket!!! I have done the latter - It is now displaying all sections. For the former, it needs the help of an admin - Someone who can help delete and perform the move. I have added a CSD tag on the page thats holding up the move, but you can also use a {{admin help}} to speed it up.

Cheers, TheOriginalSoni (talk) 16:27, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Soni! Appreciated. Where would I put that tag? Basket _Feudalist 16:28, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

On your talk page. You put that tag and describe your problem - in this case to perform the move. Then an admin takes care of it. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 16:30, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Will do then. Many thanks again for your help. Have a good evening! Basket _Feudalist 16:36, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Verifying an article in the sandbox

I've recently had an article removed as it was deemed too promotional and not ambiguous enough, is there an editor who could check my sandbox before making the article Live to check it is inline with the Wiki guidelines?. Thanks, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Murklemark/sandbox (Murklemark (talk) 15:33, 17 January 2013 (UTC))

Hello Murklemark and welcome to Wikipedia! The main problem I can see with your article is that it does not tell us why the company is famous. Unless there is a specific reason why the company should have an article (if they are well known or made some news), they cannot be added. So do add any secondary sources before trying to get the article into article space.

(Secondary sources are those sources which are not related to the article subject. So your company's website will not be a secondary source, but a major newspaper will be)

TheOriginalSoni (talk) 15:38, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi TheOriginalSoni, thanks for your input, the company is famous throughout the UK specifically within it's industry but also within the (and my) local community. I've seen a number of other companies with similar pages but no secondary sources so I was wondering if there was anything else I can do to see if it is OK to go live.

Thanks again for your help! (Murklemark (talk) 15:58, 17 January 2013 (UTC))

Is there any way you can show that? Maybe a newspaper or a journal or a magazine? Anything from that specific industry which might show that the company is noteworthy? If not, then I dont think it will be possible for your article to survive the article space.

Do you mind linking a few of the companies you are speaking of? I might like to check how we can have articles without any secondary sources or established notablity. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 16:06, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Are you able to reference printed articles / journals or do they have to be web articles, I'm sure I can find something from within the news or industry journals. One of the articles I was looking at was B. Braun Melsungen which looks to be a similar company, but most of their references don't work so I wondered why my page was different as I originally had more live references.

Thanks, (Murklemark (talk) 16:26, 17 January 2013 (UTC))

They can be anything- Print/Journal/Web. As long as it is reliable, its allowed.

As for the article you mentioned, it probably will need to be deleted. It does not look like it meets our notablity guidelines. Do tell if you find any other similar articles. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 16:37, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

We should be careful not to equate "fame" with "notability". For Wikipedia, notability is the key and the guidelines for the notability of companies can be found here.--ukexpat (talk) 19:51, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi TheOriginalSoni and ukexpat, the article was speedily deleted straight out of my Sandbox while I was editing it for review as it was deemed too promotional, again I searched for similar article such as ICU Medical and Medtronic and baed my style of referenced information based on what these article displayed. I'm surprised it was deleted straight out of my sandbox before it was even finished. Thanks, (Murklemark (talk) 15:47, 20 January 2013 (UTC))

How to resolve issues on a new wiki page

The wiki entry Women Live is an attempt to archive a women’s magazine. Because I was involved in the magazine it seems that I have a too ‘close connection ‘ to the subject. How can this be overcome?

How does one achieve apparent objectivity when involved in setting up a wiki page, when one has been connected with that project??

Gillian Young (talk) 12:50, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Welcome, Gillian, and thank you for asking the question. Wikipedia's guidance on such cases of conflict of interest is at WP:COI. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:56, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

... and I've changed the internet url in your link to a wikilink to make it more readable. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:54, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

The phrase "attempt to archive" is problematic. Wikipedia is not a web host for random stuff, it is an encyclopedia with strict content rules. Roger (talk) 09:54, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

I am struggling to understand the responses* which seem ignorant and a little arrogant. All written by men. ‘Notable’ means worthy of attention or notice. To anyone studying subjects such as: autobiographical writing and the development of women’s magazines would find this item relevant within that context. The Women’s Library (see link) agreed to house the archive exactly because it recognises it within a historical context.

I am trying to get advice as to how to make the Women Live article comply with standards - and am gobsmacked that people can ignorantly suggest it should be ‘deleted’. More useful would be some SIMPLE suggestions as to how to strengthen it in terms of Wiki standards. Please note some of us struggle to comprehend these processes.

• A magazine that cease publication after six issues can hardly be notable. If it had been notable, it would no doubt have continued being published.

Gillian Young (talk) 13:58, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

How to upload a picture?

Well, Ive been having trouble uploading a picture to my own wikipedia page "Koolade" (on a croatian producer). I wanted to upload my logo, but had trouble explaining that the .jpg is my own personal property, and that i hold the copyrights to it, and therefore couldn't upload the pic. Because none of the given options of description fit my case exactly. What should I do? thks! KooladeusKooladeus (talk) 10:51, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello Kooladeus. Without trying to get too complicated, in cases where you need to establish that you have the right to license an image for Wikipedia use, there's a fairly simple procedure described at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials that explains how to do this. It involves sending an email to the Wikimedia foundation to establish your identity and right to license the image for Wikipedia use. I hope that helps. --Jayron32 14:00, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

how can i find the name of the school i attended in lincoln city uk in 1946

how can i find the name of the school i attened in lincoln city uk in 1946 - 1950 it was close to rookery lane lincoln and also i think to boulham park lincoln city uk86.168.107.211 (talk) 06:47, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello 86, and Welcome to the Wikipedia.

The Teahouse is a forum to discuss things related to Wikipedia, and not to help find things on Wikipedia. Hope you'll keep that in mind the next time.

Yet I did try to find the name of the school that you requested. Unfortunately, most of the links on lincoln city refer to the one in Oregon. I am afraid that unless you know the name of the school, it would not be possible to find it.

However, you could try other methods, like the "Yellow Pages" or a Map of Lincoln City, or just call their city office and see if they can help.

I hope my reply helped you find the school. Do ask here if you have any further questions. Also did you consider Contributing to the project?

Cheers,

TheOriginalSoni (talk) 07:22, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

You could start by looking at List of schools in Lincolnshire, Template:Schools in Lincolnshire, Category:Schools in Lincolnshire, and the latter's variouis sub-categories including Category:Defunct schools in Lincolnshire. This Google map might also help. Many schools may have merged or changed their names since you were there, but the current articles may give you an idea of the history. Good hunting! - David Biddulph (talk) 08:30, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Delete An Image (I require an administrator, right?)

Image in Question

I would like to delete the image referred to by that talk page. It seems that I cannot do this without an administrator. Could I get administrator help for deleting an image?

The reason I would like to delete this image is because I can create a free-media image to replace it instead of keeping the Fair Use Rationale image. --Carrot Lord (talk) 23:13, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello Carrot and welcome to Wikipedia!

There is already a non-free tag on the image. This image shall be automatically deleted after 18 January 2013.

If you already have Twinkle, you can easily tag any image for deletion by using the CSD template. Otherwise, it is also possible to manually place those tags as per the criterion on WP:CSD.

Here the tag will be {{db-author}} which is when the creator of the file/page wants to delete it.

Hope my answer helped! Cheers, TheOriginalSoni (talk) 23:21, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Carrot Lord, welcome to the Teahouse. Awesome name. You can create, upload, and use the image you want on the page. A Fair Use image that is not linked to a page will be deleted automatically. A helpful hint about links: if you are linking within the Wikimedia projects (Wikipedia, Wikimedia Commons, etc.), you can use two brackets around the namespace (File: in this case) and page name to create a small clean link. Thanks for your additions to WIkipedia! heather walls (talk) 23:48, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

I see. Is this an extension of the article pluralization system? [[dog]]s would just create a link to dogs, but you could also abuse this to do things like [[fiction]]al, which is not actually a plural word. --Carrot Lord (talk) 01:08, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

It's not directly related to that (though that's not as who should say "abuse"; it's just another variant on what's called link piping). More importantly, though, Heather isn't exactly correct (sorry, Heather!). In most cases, she's right: you create links to pages using the square brackets (so that [[Wikipedia:Teahouse]] becomes Wikipedia:Teahouse). But for files, it's different; the normal syntax for a link (like [[File:Teahouse button.png]] will actually insert the image itself into the page. If you're just trying to make a link to the image, rather than incorporating the image itself, you need to put a colon in front like so: [[:File:Teahouse button.png]] becomes File:Teahouse button.png. Does that make more sense? Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 01:38, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

As an aside, I've deleted the image, per your request and as it's a non-free file not used in any articles. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 01:41, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Too true! Thanks for correcting me :) I did it in the example but didn't explain it. :) heather walls (talk) 01:40, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Non-online sources

Hello,

I have been asked to create a wiki article for a Russian artist -- Mikhail Biryukov. He is not very well known internationally, however he is recognized as a great artist of the former Soviet Union. I was given books, which are written in Russian, as sources to write this wiki. There is a large amount of information about the artist and his influence on Russian art at the time. I was wondering if there is any way I can present these books as the sources for the wiki article, or do they have to be online?

Thaelton (talk) 18:52, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the question. There is no requirement that sources be online, but we do require them to be cited in such a way that a reader of the article could, if they so wished, find the hard copy sources, say in a library, and verify what they say. For that purpose we have several citation templates to make the job a little easier - in this case {{Cite book}}. If you take a look at the documentation (click that blue link) you will see how to use it. You should also take a look at referencing for beginners. Please also consider using the articles for creation process to create your article in draft so that it can be reviewed by other Wikipedia users before it is moved to the main article area. Hope this helps.--ukexpat (talk) 18:58, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Regarding the template referred to above, note that two of the less common parameters you might want to use for these sources, in addition to the standard ones, are trans_title= (place there the English translation of the Russian title) and language=Russian.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:05, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

How to contact editors?

Is there a way to contact "editors" NOT in a talk page? Bonus Q: if there is a template that suggest "an editor has suggested..." is there a way to address that person or group? Wikikd (talk) 16:36, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

If a user has enabled email then when you are looking at a users page there should be link in the left hand panel to "email this user". I think you also have to have enabled that function too. Note anyone you do email is not obliged to reply or if they do chose to reply they may chose to do so publically e.g. at your talk page. Please see Wikipedia:Emailing users for more information. NtheP (talk) 16:53, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Wikikd. A few more things about email on Wikipedia.

1. If you email a user, you should leave a {{YGM}} (You've got mail) template on the talk page of the editor you mailed, as many folks here have an email account just for Wikipedia that they don't regularly monitor.
2. You will not see the other users email address if you use the Wikipedia email service, but they will see yours.
3. If you reply to an email you get thru the Wikipedia email feature, the recipient will see your email address.

Gtwfan52 (talk) 18:01, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Why cant i edit ind the infobox in the article called "WW2"?

Why cant i edit ind the infobox in the article called "WW2"?

Kysterskartel (talk) 16:28, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

I can't see any reason why you can't, unlike the article the infobox template isn't protected. Whether you should or not is a different question. It's a high profile template so if you are considering any that might be controversial then you should discuss it on the talk page first. NtheP (talk) 16:45, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

But where can i click to edit the infobox? (what we are talking about is the big box with pictures of ships and flyingsmachines, with lists of the allied, axis, and all the leaders)

Kysterskartel (talk) 17:08, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Kysterskartel, welcome to the Teahouse. If you click the "Edit" tab at top of World War II then you see the code {{WW2InfoBox}} near the top. This means a template is being transcluded. It can be edited at Template:WW2InfoBox. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:12, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Removing this from above the image? File: frameless|alt=

How can i remove this above the photo used in my article?

File: frameless|alt=

Eashleyfox (talk) 14:20, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Eashleyfox, welcome to the Teahouse. The {{infobox}} template in which the image is sited has its own image syntax coded in; therefore you don't need to add pictures in the [[File:...|thumb|caption]] format. If you take a look at the page now, you'll see that I've fixed it for you. Yunshui 雲‍水 14:26, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

changing username

Hello everyone, I have been absent from Wikipedia longer than I would have liked, but now I'm back and eager to continue being a Wikignome:-). A question I have asked once before and which was cordially answered, but unfortunately I can't find the answer in my Talk section: how does one go about changing a username? I combined mine out of the main languages I work with, but it doesn't look too attractive. Would be grateful for a (repeated) tip. Thanks in advance! WikiGnome2012 (talk) 10:21, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Greetings Wikignome. If you head on over to the username change page and submit a request there, it will be dealt with by the relevant people. --Skamecrazy123 (talk) 10:45, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

How create a new article in wikipedia

I am new one in Wikipedia, so i have no idea about how to add new article. I would like to add an article about Dr. VelukuttY Arayan, a multifarious genius who marked his foot prints in the history of Kerala. He was a social reformer, scholar, editor, litterateur, scientist, and physician who practiced all branches of medicine. An article in Wikipedia is very helpful to people to know more about Mr.Velukutty Aryan. So please help me to add a new article in Wikipedia.Paikrishnan (talk) 05:29, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Paikrishnan. Welcome to the Teahouse and to Wikipedia. There is a helpful page on creating your first article at WP:CREATE. You can create an article at WP:AFC, where your article will be reviewed prior to being published to the encyclopedia. Looking through your contributions so far, I would suggest the AfC route, because you have had a large number of your edits so far reverted. Wikipedia is a vast abyss of rules, policies and guidelines, and they take a while to get the hang of. If you take your article through AfC, it will be reviewed as many times as necessary. A large number of first articles created directly in the encyclopedia are deleted; going through AfC will let you avoid that heartache. Reliable sources and notability are just two of the areas in which you have to be knowledgeable to create an article that will stick; if you want to write about a person, especially a living person, you will have to understand biographies of living persons too. Using a review system like AfC will be of great assistance in creating a good first article. Gtwfan52 (talk) 07:17, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks so much!WikiGnome2012 (talk) 09:26, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Name change = change title of article?

Swimmer Marieke Guehrer was recently married. She now races under her married name, Marieke D'Cruz. Should probably change article title and redirect, as done with Libby Lenton/Libby Trickett, but I don't yet know how. 49.176.35.249 (talk) 02:01, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi 49 and welcome to the Teahouse! The easiest way would be to move the article. Click the arrow next to the star at the top of the page and click "move". Change the title and the old title will become a redirect to the new title. Hope this helps! JHUbal27 ^{Roar! :-)} 02:14, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Edit-Please do not move the article, as neé has already been added. JHUbal27 ^{Roar! :-)} 02:22, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

The determining factor in what the article's title should be is what the sources are referring to her as. And it is a topic that should be discussed at the article's talk page. I just looked at her personal website listed on her article and there is no mention of her marriage, so what she is calling herself is at least somewhat in question. I would suggest you start a discussion at the article's talk page and mention whatever sources you have seen referring to her by her married name. Gtwfan52 (talk) 08:14, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

list of contributions for multilingual contributors?

Hello fellow Wikipedians, Is there an easy way to see all the contributions made by someone that contributes/edits in more than one language? (ie. on the english page I can only pull up my english contributions, but can't see any of the others) Thank you! slv 23:34, 15 January 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slventura (talk • contribs)

Hi, Slventura! Welcome to the Teahouse. Other than going to the article on the other language Wikipedia, I don't know how you could. That, perhaps, is an issue you should raise at the Village Pump, another forum on Wikipedia for the discussion of policy. Gtwfan52 (talk) 00:37, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Click "Global contributions" at the bottom of their user contributions page, or achieve the same by entering their username at http://toolserver.org/~luxo/contributions/contributions.php. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:04, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Gtwfan52, I have yet to check VillagePump! next on my list. Thanks for the tip PrimeHunter, it worked!
slv (talk) 19:55, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, slv, but I misunderstood your question. I thought you were asking about contributors to an article translated from another language Wiki. Prime Hunter gave you the spot-on answer. Gtwfan52 (talk) 20:26, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

neutral language and the Mandolin Society of Peterborough

Hi! I've been working on a page about the Mandolin Society of Peterborough. I decided to put it through the Articles for Creation process to see what others thought about its notability. It didn't get that far, however. It was rejected because the reviewer said it sounded like an advertisement. I have read it over, and can't find any biased language or unsupported praise, so I'm not sure what I need to change in this respect. I'd welcome any advice. The page is at Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Mandolin_Society. I've added a few more references since it was reviewed, and reorganized it a bit. Thanks, —Anne Delong (talk) 18:30, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

It does read like a press release rather than a Wikipedia article. Take the same material and organize it differently. Describe the society in the opening section. Then write a history section. Leave out the history of mandolin groups. Provide a wikilink in the text to Mandolin orchestra instead, in the first paragraphs. What motivated Curtis Driedger to found the group? When did they start giving concerts? The group participates in many events. That probably didn't happen all at once. Introduce them as part of the history. Introduce the smaller groups and the reason they were formed as part of the history too. Are any of your guest artists well known? Make a guest artists section. Then look at Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Criteria for musicians and ensembles to see if you can make the case for notability for the group. Good luck. StarryGrandma (talk) 03:43, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

And references don't need to be online. Maybe someone in the group keeps a scrapbook. StarryGrandma (talk) 21:21, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Of course the scrapbook itself would not be a reliable source, but any newspaper articles therein could be cited appropriately with {{cite news}}.--ukexpat (talk) 21:29, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the hints. I will try to reorganize as suggested. And I found a newspaper clipping and a printout from a web site that has since changed in my own file drawer! (duh) —Anne Delong (talk) 21:45, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

How to replace/update an existing image without creating a new page? i.e. adds to chronology instead

This is to do with a problem with the graph chronology for next UK election. Note: when a small image appears, hover over it with your mouse to read the complete the sentence.

Ok, so this page has always had a chart but due to the continuous updates with the addition of new polls the chart needs updating every once in a while. This has meant that there are now an abundance of unwanted/out of date files on wikipedia, which should really belong in the chronology of the . As you can see from the chronology all is well for the chronology of that page until it stops at May 2012, the final update.

The next image to be uploaded was a , this chart and the were used simultaneously for a period. That is until the data for 2011 and 2012 was updated to the 30px|talk page to accommodate the new format (due to the addition of UKIP's column). This is a recent occurance. I was the one that uploaded the new data a few days ago, I also created a to see us through until we could get a new version of the favoured chart to cover May 2010-Present Day.

A exists, this preceded my chart, it was made in error, I discovered the lines were too thick for interpretation, therefore this image needs to be deleted, as it is in effect a duplicate. I do not know how to delete this image, or suggest deletion, can someone help/delete it for me? I'll see to it that there are comments on that page.

Since my chart was uploaded, I have uploaded the data to the talk page, for User:Wavehunter to update the chart that preceded mine to include the data from 2010 and 2011. The reason for this is that Wavehunter's chart was the one that had consensus. In the meantime Impru20 has uploaded . Since then Wavehunter has uploaded his updated chart which is now (by consensus) the .

To summarise what I need help with doing/for someone to do for me:

All of these listed graphs need to be added to the chronology of the and not be as separate pages. In chronological order the follow should be added to the chronology:

• (or deleted)
• 
• 
• (current)

Note: Please do not include: the as it is useful on other pages and does not fit in the chronology (as does not include 2010or11!

I would really appreciate someone doing this for me, as I am likely to make a mistake with it being multiple edits and my 1st time doing this. Could you also leave a note explaining how to do this for future reference on the talk page for the benefit of myself and future editors.

I also want to know how to do this so that I can use my new skill on another page, I have another picture that I need to replace/update but I want to do it properly! So once I know what I'm doing and once someone has done this for me I will be able to see to things like this in the future.

Many ThanksSheffno1gunner (talk) 21:55, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Sheff, welcome to the Teahouse. There are a number of things that could be done. One would be to create a category that contains all these images so they could be seen together. Another, and this maybe what you are referring to is to upload a new version of an existing file. This is an option for any image and at the bottom of the image page you get a thumbnail view of all the previous versions. The advantage is that you don't have to keep changing the article the image is used in as the image file name remains the same. The disadvantage is if someone wants to maintain a static link to one of the previous versions of the image elsewhere. I'd suggest that if you want to do this you raise it on the talk page of a candidate image page and leave a note at the original editors talk page as well. NtheP (talk) 16:20, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

This didn't answer my question. I was indeed talking about the 2nd thing you described with thumbnails. Coud you please tell me how to link all thesem images under 1 thumbnal. All images apart from the 2012 image need to be included as they replace one another! How do you this? Or could you do it for me?Sheffno1gunner (talk) 23:36, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Basically in short: I want to know how to replace an image. There are a number of images on wiki, that replace one another other. I.e. instead of loading up a new seperate file (which is what I've been doing), I want to know how to just replace the existing, so that the old image isn't left lieing around, it is dumped as a thumbnail at the bottom of the page. An example of what I want to do can be seen here: (File:Euro_accession.svg) under "File history". I want this instead of having seperate files. If your struggling to understand my above text because there are bits missing, just hover over the graphs and you'll see the text.Sheffno1gunner (talk) 06:07, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello and the first question

Moved from Wikipedia talk:TeahouseGtwfan52 (talk) 17:30, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello, I am Marina and I hope I will be able to contribute to our community. Could anyone tell me whether all pictures found o Google images have free license?--Martina Moreau (talk) 17:23, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Marina, welcome to Teahouse! This should have been asked at Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions and I will copy it there so others can learn from the answer. This page is for asking questions about the Teahouse itself. No worries! Most pictures on Google images are not of a compatible license with Wikipedia. I hope this answers your question. Gtwfan52 (talk) 17:27, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Marina. Welcome to the Teahouse and English Wikipedia. To answer your question, only a small portion of pictures found on Google images are freely licensed. To find freely licensed images in Google, click on "Options" (the small image of a gear in the upper right screen) and choose "Advanced search". At the bottom of the web page that opens, look for "usage rights" and choose "free to use or share, even commercially" to show only those images acceptable in the English Wikipedia and Commons. Hope this helps. Take care, DocTree (ʞlɐʇ·cont) Join WER 11:20, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

That is actually very helpful. Thanks!--Martina Moreau (talk) 13:53, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Her name is Martina, not "Marina". Read nicks with more attention or simply use copy-and-paste, guys. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 11:44, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

My apology to Martina and thanks to Incnis Mrsi for pointing out my error. I actually did cut-and-paste but from "Hello, I am Marina...:" rather than reading carefully to her signature. I will be more careful although I suffer from fat finger syndrome and too frequently tap the wrong key. Take care, DocTree (ʞlɐʇ·cont) Join WER 01:04, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

That's ok. My name is Marina, but I just really like to be called Martina, hence the nickname :). No offence taken anyway: "a rose by any other name would smell as sweet"--Martina Moreau (talk) 13:53, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

What am I missing in Sandbox?

I am part of a group working on content for a new Wiki page. I will not be submitting material but thought I should learn the editing process to be able to participate in refinement once a page is established. To that end I have been reading the edit tutorials and went to sandbox to get started.

Where in sandbox is there a "read/write" window on which to type? For example, to correct a typo such as a mispelled word, I assume word processing conventions are used such as those at work in this textbox. I cannot enter or select any portion of sandbox that accepts the cursor. I cannot make changes. On one page there is a phrase to the effect "edit below this line", bolow which the window is blank. Although I can type in this area, there is no text there to revise.

What am I missingCrodney (talk) 00:48, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Hey Crodney. Welcome to the Teahouse. The sandbox should be able to be edited just like any other page.--Skamecrazy123 (talk) 00:51, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

• Hi Crodney, you need to open the edit window by clicking the "edit" tab at the top right of the screen. That'll let you play around in your sandbox. The save button is below. Sadly, using Wiki isn't as easy as using a word processor yet. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:47, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

"using Wiki isn't as easy as using a word processor" - it is if you remember WordPerfect for DOS :-) NtheP (talk) 09:47, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

It is also much easier than my old Royal and White-out. Gtwfan52 (talk) 04:40, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

There is no "edit" in upper right. There is an edit tab, and there are other "Edits" and "Heres" as well. None of these activate text for read/write. I was able to activate the blank area of the window - I wonder how I did that. I typed a sentence and hit preview. A long incomprehensible explanation of an editing conflict displayed including a mysterious reference to Copy and Paste??

Possibly, am I to copy material I wish to edit, paste it into the blank area, then proceed to edit in that presentation? I could spend my life in this trial and error. Is there no ABC narrative for learners that lays out the architecture of editing? I cannot understand Sandbox without an explanation much less serious editing. I fear this editing process was assembled by computer techs. Where were the English Majors? Crodney Crodney (talk) 03:59, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Looking for jobs? J/k. Gtwfan52 (talk) 04:40, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Seriously, though...I am guessing you are using the communal Sandbox. You should just make your own and you won't have any edit conflicts. Click this redlink: User:Crodney/sandbox and follow the instructions to "Create this page". For your first edit copy and paste this template into it and save: {{User sandbox}}. Now you have your own sandbox! Gtwfan52 (talk) 04:44, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Gtwfan52

Thanks. I'm working on it. The real problem is cultural. At 83, there is an underlying chasm for many elders that the digital world will never understand. We are not privileged with time to bridge that chasm. My universe allowed me a "professional" contributing life experience without keyboard skills, with no computerization of analysis or anything else for that matter and no digital media of any kind. I have no effective contacts for explanations, learning or "tech services". Consequently, navigation and protocol for Wiki editing is more obstacle than aid. Sadly, the tool is so foreign and complex for the ignorant that participation may be impossible. Crodney (talk) 18:14, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Crodney. Have you looked at WP:Tutorial/Editing? Does that help? --ColinFine (talk) 12:02, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

helping

Is there a way that i can help on Wikipedia? I am currently working on Wiktionary's requests for photos, is there something i can do here? Venomxx (talk) 00:04, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Venomxx! Welcome to the teahouse. Pictures are very needed here, too, and if you upload them to commons they can be used in both places. Other areas that always can use help are copyediting and possibly AfC, if you feel confident enough to review new articles. Gtwfan52 (talk) 00:49, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, is their a page for me to start? Venomxx (talk) 01:03, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi, there are lots of things you can do. See Wikipedia:Requested pictures but all help is welcome. The interaction box to the left has a link to Wikipedia:Community portal. Wikipedia:Maintenance has more. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:15, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks again, I know all help is welcome, but I work best with pictures. Venomxx (talk) 01:16, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

I checked the hyper-link out and it wasn't on my level i am old/new to Wikipedia helping i wanted a black and white list Venomxx (talk) 01:31, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean. Are you talking about black-and-white photos (I don't think we make requests for that) or simpler instructions or something else? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:20, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Venomxx, I too am unsure of what you are looking for. On Wikimedia Commons, the site that houses most of Wikipedia's images, there are a number of things you can do. For instance there is a list of images that need various cleanup, and a giant list of requested images from all the Wikipedia languages. Keep in mind that you would be working on what is technically a separate wiki, but all the images link and show onto the Wikimedia projects (you may already be aware of that). Another thing you could do if you want to donate photos, is to look around at articles you care about and see if they need an image, I have done that for a few things local to me. Good luck! And thanks for your hard work. heather walls (talk) 06:54, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

prime hunter, i meant a normal list of hyperlinks Venomxx (talk) 05:47, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Hyperlinks to what? Category:Wikipedia requested photographs and its subcategories have links to pages with photo requests. Is that it? PrimeHunter (talk) 20:06, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

If you know how to edit photos, there are Graphics labs (and specialized workshops) on both the English Wikipedia (Wikipedia:Graphics Lab) and on Commons (commons:Commons:Graphic Lab). – Philosopher ^{Let us reason together.} 02:31, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Gtwfam mentioned copyediting as one area where help is needed. That's one area where I feel I can be of help. Can anyone point to points of entry for that, apart from just randomly perusing articles of interest? Coretheapple (talk) 14:59, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Basic copyediting. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:35, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I hadn't seen that. Coretheapple (talk) 20:49, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

i am trying to say this; is there a hyperlink list of pages that need pictures on them? wiktionary has one; http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:Requests for photographs Venomxx (talk) 03:10, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

It might be confusing because there are so many. If you start here Wikipedia:Requested pictures and go to Category:Wikipedia requested photographs there are both more categories AND lists of wanted pictures, the list of pictures you will find lower on the page. You can also continue to drill down into categories Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of places to Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of architecture each one has both more categories and more lists. Sorry it is not more simple than that, but at least you can choose a direction to your liking. heather walls 03:22, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

IW's messed up at WP-hr

Can someone help with the iw links at hr:Naglasak? I am trying to fix confused iw's across 60 projects, but the WP-hr article has been protected; that one project will disrupt all the rest once the iw bot starts. (The confusion is accent = stress vs. accent = regional speech. It's a real mess.) Thanks, — kwami (talk) 00:53, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

I made a mistake on interstate rose ouarter max station i edited it but it still showed the mistake on the page what do i do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dfgg (talk • contribs) 07:56, 20 January 2013 (UTC)