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Help with article and username

Hello There :)

Sorry - I am unsure if I am writing in the right place or not... but I wanted to meet and chat with other much more experienced wiki editors than myself. I have an issue I would love some help with. I recently wrote a neutral article (my very first article on here) about a soccer player, who was the first Australian to ever be 'drafted' to the Major League in USA. Anyhow, long story short, I simply opened the laptop with this idea, as I was researching this player as he plays in Germany, and I found all of his information was so diverse and in so many different languages, I though this surely needs to be on wiki. I went ahead, (foolish as a beginner, and made a username and password) and I made my username almost letter for letter the player I was referring to... as I didnt expect I would be able to actually submit anything, I didn't know a thing about wiki. Anyhow I submitted and article was approved by a very fair, nice person who looked at the sources and approved immediately almost. Then however, as if it were a personal attack, I started getting messages claiming that the article was likely written by the subject himself, and that the article was promotional. I would love to invite you to look at the article I presented as my first article, please search James Georgeff in wiki. The article is up for deletion on grounds I am unsure of. I have argued that notoriety is the ground on which the rules state something should stay as an independent article, yet I feel the admin who started this deletion process has been working against me, and for lack of a better term, using his contacts to add to the discussion in an unfair manner. Is there a way I can present my case, or talk to someone or an admin independent of emotion and personal bias. The admin even told me in a message that if I kept accusing him of personal attacks that I would feel a 'boomerang' effect from him. For me, being employed in legal services and being an expert on the subject I wrote about, and providing over 15 sources from independent sources... I feel this has turned slightly personal. Where do I get help? What do I do? (Samej1902 (talk) 09:21, 15 August 2013 (UTC))

• Hello and welcome to the Teahouse Samej1902! I've moved your question here and given it a section title so that more helpers may find it and give you and answer. :) I do want to give you a heads up that using the word "legal" on Wikipedia has gotten a few people in trouble, so be careful. Is the article you need help with, James Georgeff created by Georgeff9 (talk · contribs) (I assume is your other username and I've taken the liberty of noting that on your userpage that you have edited under that name so that you won't be accused of sockpuppetry), which is up for deletion on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Georgeff? If so, GiantSnowman is fairly versed in all things football, and hates to see football related articles deleted if there is any chance of keeping them. I suggest asking him on the AfD page if he would be willing to USERFY the article for you since this appears to be an upcoming star and he may grant you that request. Technical 13 (talk) 11:45, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

The article will be considered on its merits at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Georgeff, and the contributors there will be free of "emotion and personal bias". You say that you are an expert on the subject you wrote about, but that isn't of any direct help, as what Wikipedia is looking for is verifiability by references to published independent reliable sources. If those do not demonstrate that the subject meets Wikipedia's notability requirements, your own knowledge or original research doesn't help. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:48, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi - Thanks for the notice. I was just assuming that a very notable event coupled with numerous significant sources on the James Georgeff article more than suffice as per WP:NCOLLATH. The commentary all over my talk page is referring to rules not relevant to the article for some reason.

delete

how do you delete a page. i ant to delete one of my drafts .jjbernardiscool (talk) 11:18, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

If you are the only substantial contributor to the page & its talk page, then you can tag it for speedy deletion by adding {{db-author}} at the top of the page, see Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#G7. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:38, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello Jjbernardiscool and welcome to the Teahouse! If the draft is in your userspace, simply blank the page and place {{db-U1}} on the top of the page. Anything in your userspace can be most quickly deleted as CSD U1 criteria. Happy editing! Technical 13 (talk) 11:49, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Is there a public place for editor commendations/recommendations?

Hi, I'm pretty new to WP and like some other newbies I've had the misfortune of coming across a pretty abusive editor as one of my first WP experiences, whose only goals, it seems, are to bully and block any forms of progress. Thanks to the Teahouse, I was able to gain access to an editor who was the complete opposite (professional, courteous, productive, and informative), and I wanted to know if WP has a place where I could publicly post commendations/recommendations for this editor? My Best, --FGuerino (talk) 02:57, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

If he's a bully, it might be best to raise the issue at WP:AN, the admin noticeboard. -- ^t numbermaniac ^c 02:59, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

For the helpful editor, you may wish to give out some "Wikilove". If you go to the editor's talk page, you will see at the top of the page a small red heart. Click on this and you will see some cheerful graphics and messages to leave on the page. —Anne Delong (talk) 04:05, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

A caveat regarding Anne's reply: whether you see the "Wikilove" feature at the top of a user's talk page depends on how you have your preferences set at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-misc. - David Biddulph (talk) 04:22, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks to ^t numbermaniac ^c and David Biddulph for your help. I'll take a look. My Best, --FGuerino (talk) 12:03, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

I think I know which editor you are referring to, FGuerino. If I am right, then I must point out that he has goals other than to "bully and block any forms of progress". This editor is a prolific creator of Featured Articles, Good Articles and Did You Know articles highlighted on Wikipedia's home page. Although he has rough edges, he has cheerfully assisted many editors, including me, in improving a wide variety of articles. Please assume good faith of other editors. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:32, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Cullen³²⁸, I suggest you reread your response. You're publicly implying that one should look the other way on someone's poor behavior, like bullying, because the person who's behaving badly has a great body of work. Now ask yourself... If a person abuses someone you love, like your mother or child, would the abuser's body of work really mean anything to you?

It's my opinion that, while unintentional accidents happen, there's never a good excuse for intentionally being abusive, disrespectful, and unprofessional, because when you are you tarnish or destroy the value of your body of work. It's also my opinion that such behavior is a very poor representation of what the public thinks WP stands for. I'd think that a person who does have such an impressive body of work should act like (and be expected to act like) an ambassador and a positive representative for WP, fostering people to "want" to develop their skills and publish more on WP. Also, keep in mind that children can and often do visit or log into WP in order contribute and/or learn, and they may be exposed to the same nonsense.

This all being being said, keep in mind that when a person bullies someone from behind the safety of their computer, thousands of miles away from the person they're bullying, they're usually painting themselves as a coward as well as a bully. Now, I'm a very patient person and I'm very willing to cordially and professionally work with him to see if we can get past such nonsense because, honestly, I do believe there's a tremendous amount for me to learn from him (based on that impressive body of work). However, his documented history of such patterns with many other people tells me it's probably just not in his nature to be nice. I hope I'm wrong. My Best, --FGuerino (talk) 12:03, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Your submission at AfC Lindsay Bell (August 8)

My submission at AfC Lindsay Bell (August 8) I was told this is in the queue for review but it seems to be taking a long time. Is there anyway to get some feedback and an ETA? Thank you.Norstat (talk) 02:17, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Norstat, welcome to the Teahouse. Right now, the oldest AfC submissions are 13 days old, and your submission is old 5 days old, so it may still be a while. Howicus (talk) 02:23, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello Norstat. I took a look at your draft article about at politician who is a former city council member and mayoral candidate in Prescott, Arizona, a city with a population of less than 40,000 people. I believe that this person fails to meet our notability guideline for politicians. Even if the article makes it through the AfC process, I believe that it is at high risk for deletion. A better solution might be a neutral article about the Prescott mayoral race, describing all of the candidates in an even-handed way. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:43, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

No References Banner

I added sources for the Jonathan Greenblatt page, can I remove the banner at the top? If so, how? Aesco77 (talk) 02:17, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Aesco77, welcome to the Teahouse. Since the banner was for "does not cite any references", and you added references, feel free to remove the banner by deleting the top line that's in {{curly brackets}}. Howicus (talk) 02:21, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Wrong PageTitle

Hi I have really made a mess of starting with Wikipedia. Whilst researching Forest school, I found a wiki answer of forest schools which is a trade mark of a company and not the title of an ethos to which forest school is. I looked at previous editing and tried to reinstate one that clarified the difference between the two very different things. I had a message which I am not sure was implying I have an inappropriate interest or the original editor of the section (I don't but do have knowledge of the subject matter). The clarifing has been removed leaving a page title inadvertently advertising a company and not informing on the subject matter. I don’t want to seem dogmatic on just one subject, but it was something I felt I could confidently contribute to with some accuracy. The best outcome would be to re-title the page "forest school" this could then be adjusted to truely represent the subject area. The forest school association I also had problems with? It is an organisation which is likely to be key to the success of forest school from a grass root's movement. it is soon to be a charity and representing and protecting the forest school ethos. The page was taken down, yet trade union pages remain, I didn't understand this rule either. Treat me gently, I am feeling a little fragile now. I was hoping to do some good but have failed in my first attemps and obviously not grasping the rules at all. Wanakeepbees (talk) 00:48, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

I cannot see any trace of this in your editing history, so it's hard to offer advice. What account were you using?—Kww(talk) 00:52, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes sorry I had different username which I was asked to change, Didn't mean to break that rule either. It was Whatthefeck. Wanakeepbees (talk) 01:01, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

When I look at Forest school, the article looks a bit lopsided towards the commmercial interest, but not overwhelmingly so. People seem to have interpreted your insertion of the trademark information as an attempt by the trademark holder to claim ownership over the articles, but, after a few changes, the information has been retained (it's towards the bottom of the page now). If you believe that it is still excessively lopsided towards the trademark holder, edits to correct that would be welcome.

As for your article on the Forest School Association, what it really needed was some references to independent sources (newspapers, magazines, or similar entitities) that show that the Forest School Association is considered important by third parties. If you can provide those, it stands a far better chance of being retained.—Kww(talk) 02:09, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Constructive review of User:FGuerino/Information technology industry?

Hi, I'm trying to work on content that will hopefully either become a totally new page "Information technology industry" or which will somehow be merged in with the existing page "Information technology". The page I'm working on is still a work in progress, as I have a list of things I still want to do before peer review, but I was hoping I could please impose on the community to kindly get some constructive feedback. The page is located at: User:FGuerino/Information technology industry. PS: It would be helpful if you leave any feedback/reviews on my talk page. Thanks for any help you can offer. --FGuerino (talk) 21:53, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

I've done a copyedit of about half the draft. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:01, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Fuhghettaboutit, I have to say there's a lot of great work in your edits. I'm pretty new to WP and I feel that there's a tremendous amount for me to learn, just by comparing all of the edits in your version against the previous version, including patterns in my editing that I can work on. I appreciate the help and especially the notes in your changes, where you took the time to explain things. Thanks for taking the time to help. I'll start to address some of your notes and try to apply the same types of corrections you made to the half you couldn't get to. My Very Best, --FGuerino (talk) 02:08, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

reference

I have tried to place many references on that page I've created, however I might be doing something wrong, and the references are not being accepted... how should i proceed? Vsdr92 (talk) 21:18, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Vsdr92! You needed to add the reflist instruction at the end of the article. Charlesdrakew added it for you - you can take a look at the text they used and use that yourself next time. 184.147.136.32 (talk) 21:29, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Vsdr and welcome. I have added a reflist template to your article so the references show. The more independent sources you can find the better. I suspect you are writing about yourself here so you have a conflict of interest and should read this linked page.--Charles (talk) 21:33, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

I made a Huge accident.

I need help. I was editing the AC/DC album "Let There Be Rock", and I was adding singles to it. And when it was done, the singles weren't there so I kept trying. Then suddenly the whole infobox was gone, no cover, no extra cover. So can you ask someone to put all those things back because I don't know how to. Thanks. Bye.IGotProof (talk) 14:32, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Done, IGotProof. next time it happens, you just have to go to the History and undo the last change you made :) Happy editing! Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 14:40, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Argh, that was almost certainly not your fault. WP:VisualEditor is having difficulty with a couple of the most complicated infoboxes, and sometimes it decides to just make them "disappear". I hope that this problem will be fixed later today, but if it happens to you again, then please let me know. I'll check back here, or you can leave a note at WP:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thanks, Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17:09, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Looking for Users

A few months ago I found a link to a page where I could fine all users in wikipedia (e.g. I typed Miss and all the usernames with a Miss in there). I was wondering if anyone could tell me which link it is :) Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 13:21, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Miss Bono. If you pick 'Special pages' from the sidebar, you'll find there are lots of pages of that sort listed. --ColinFine (talk) 13:24, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

ColinFine See how Wikipedia looks like for me File:No_Interface_Wikipedia.png. I have no special pages menu :( Please, delete the picture when you see it. Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 13:42, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Special pages. - that's a lot of tabs :) --Onorem (talk) 13:45, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Hey Miss Bono! The specific special page you're probably looking for is Special:ListUsers. Note that there's also Special:GlobalUsers, which isn't limited to this Wikimedia project. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:21, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia shortcut

I just wanna know how to make a shortcut link on a page to go another Wikipedia page.

Cheers in advance.Kamel86969 (talk) 12:58, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Kamel86969, I think you're just asking about using [[]]. See the H:Cheatsheet and let us know if that's not what you were asking. Best. Biosthmors (talk) 13:07, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Hey Kamel. I edit conflicted with Biosthmor above, and he or she may be right about what you are seeking. The words you used implied something else to me. If you are talking about an actual shortcut, and not how to make an internal link, then the way that is done is to create the shortcut title as a redirect. For example the shortcut to this page is WP:TH/Q. Visit that link to see what's there as an example. The way to then add the boxed link at this page to provide notice of shortcut name is with the template: {{shortcut|NAME}}. There are also specific ones depending on the type of page the shortcut is to, such as {{Policy shortcut}} and {{Template shortcut}}. Note that this is not done for encyclopedia articles in the mainspace. If you meant instead how to make an internal link, just ignore this. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:17, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Cheers. Just new to Wikipedia and didn't know how this was done,Kamel86969 (talk) 10:27, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

How do I control Image Size?

Hi, I've inserted an image into an article I'm working on, called User:FGuerino/Information technology industry, but the size is too large and I'd like to change its size attributes. How would I go about doing so and (more importantly) where can I find the WP page that describes how to work with and control images that we place in articles? -- My Best, --FGuerino (talk) 11:49, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi FGuerino, welcome to the Teahouse. See the guidelines for image syntax for some more details. To make it smaller you need to add the |thumb| parameter and then the pixel size so I changed yours to [[Image:IT Industry.png|thumb|150px|right|The Information Technology Industry]] to demonstrate. Cabe6403^{(Talk•Sign)} 12:03, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Cabe6403thanks very much for taking the time to help. I appreciate, both, the pointer to the reference material and your actually taking the time to change the image size. My Best, --FGuerino (talk) 12:39, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Adding additional information about the organisation I work for.

Hi there.

I have been reading the Wikipedia guidelines on conflict of interest, given that I would like to improve the information available about the organisation I work for (the Office of the Police Ombudsman for Northern Ireland).

Best practice seemed to suggest proposing an edit on the talk page, which I have done here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Police_Ombudsman_for_Northern_Ireland

I'm just wondering what now is the process for inviting an editor to review the suggested amends? Many thanks in anticipation for any help you are able to provide.

194.32.31.1 (talk) 10:18, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi there, welcome to the Teahouse. You've done great so far by proposing the edit on the talk page. Have you got any editor(s) in mind specifically or are you looking for a general review? If you have someone in mind then it's perfectly acceptable to post a message on their talk page informing them of that. Cabe6403^{(Talk•Sign)} 10:25, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks Cabe for the welcome and helpful advice. I haven't really anyone in particular in mind, in fact I'm not really sure how to identify an editor and make the request. Oponiinfo (talk) 10:46, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Oponiinfo, I've had a look at the content and it seems fine to me. Feel free to go ahead and insert it into the article. Have a read at WP:BRD, you'd be taking the bold step of adding the content, if it is reverted then prepare to discuss it on the talk page but I see now reason that would happen. Cabe6403^{(Talk•Sign)} 10:51, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks again Cabe - I'll do that. 194.32.31.1 (talk) 10:55, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Note, if you're trying to reach a larger audience of people interested in a topic, you could try posting at the Talk page of the appropriate WikiProject, like Wikipedia:WikiProject Law Enforcement or WP:WikiProject Ireland (which I believe covers N. Ireland as well). MatthewVanitas (talk) 22:57, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Editing For a New Company

hello sir/mam, I want to ask you that can I edit some new IT companies in India in your wikipedia with compelte information?122.161.241.90 (talk) 08:46, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi there, welcome to the Teahouse and thanks for your question. I would encourage you to read our policy on notability for organisations and companies which should contain all the information you need. Rather than re-explaining it all here I'll let you have a read then if you have any questions feel free to ask and I'll do my best to clarify it for you. Cabe6403^{(Talk•Sign)} 09:20, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to the Teahouse. I apologise if this is me misunderstanding you, but editing for a company is never acceptable on Wikipedia. Wikipedia contains neutral articles about notable subjects, and any kind of promotion is forbidden. --ColinFine (talk) 09:50, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

ColinFine if he is associated with the company then, yes it's a conflict of interest however it's not actually forbidden, just discouraged. There's some advice for users with a COI which shed some light on the matter. So long as the company meets WP:NCORP and his editing maintains a WP:NPOV and avoids adding WP:SPAM then their is little in the way of an issue Cabe6403^{(Talk•Sign)} 10:04, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Cabe6403: I agree with what you say. The phrase "editing for a company" sounded to me as if the purpose in coming to Wikipedia was to promote the company, but as I said, I may have misunderstood. --ColinFine (talk) 11:16, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of article

Hello all! I was told that I should rewrite an article about a company called Animoto by another wiki editor because the old one was too promotional- and it was. But another wiki editor deleted the article before I could even finish it. How can I avoid this from happening again? Now I can't write an article about this company. What happens in this case? Messier83 (talk) 23:38, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Messier83! You should message Deb on her talk page and ask her to "userfy" it for you. Just a word of caution though. That article has been deleted 5 times. You really want to make sure you have the references to show notability before you re-submit it. Gtwfan52 (talk) 23:57, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Is there any way to allow editors to look at the page before I submit it? Messier83 (talk) 00:05, 14 August 2013 (UTC)Messier83

You could submit it for creation at WP:AFC by adding {{subst:submit}} at the top of the page. -- ^t numbermaniac ^c 02:56, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

@Messier83 - Sorry that I wasn't around, but I notice you have now got the text in your sandbox. I'm afraid I protected the article to prevent creation because you just kept recreating it without taking note of the issues. That protection can be removed by an admin when the article is ready to be restored. Deb (talk) 10:02, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

@Deb - Thanks Deb! I just found out what sandboxes are for. How do I have an admin check the article in the sandbox so that the article can be recreated? Messier83 (talk) 16:37, 14 August 2013 (UTC)Messier83

In the box at the top of your draft there is a link saying: "If you are writing an article, and are ready to request its creation, click here. If you click on that link, then the draft will be submitted to the review process to determine whether it is acceptable as an article. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:49, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

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Deleting an account

I created an account back in 2010 when I'd think that Wikipedia was for socializing, I never used it, though. The name of it it's User:U2 Girl. I didn't do any edit in Wikipedia and I want to delete the account. Is it possible? Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 17:28, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

No action is needed, Miss Bono. Forget about that account and leave it alone. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 19:32, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

ok. Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 19:33, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Probable Vandal

Hey, this might not be the place for this question, but are we supposed to take it upon ourselves to warn vandal ips? Or do we just ignore them or report them (or etc) ? KatCheez 17:13, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

H3ll0 :) I think you should revert the changes and place a post-it note :) warning them. IMHO. Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 17:16, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Post it note? It was on a talk page for an article. They do not currently have a talk page. KatCheez 19:28, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Kat Post it note was a joke for a warning message at the IP talk page. They do have one. Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 19:42, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I get a Creating User talk:[ip address redacted] when I click the talk link. I didn't want to accidentally warn someone and create their talk page at the same time. Wouldn't that count as Biting a newbie? I'm not 100% on that policy and I don't want to look like a jerk. KatCheez 19:46, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Kat What's the IP address? Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 19:48, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

46.115.81.141 The edit was on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Barton_Fink. KatCheez 19:52, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Kat I reverted the vandalism and I will add a not in its talk page. Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 19:59, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I know a little about policy from wikistalking for the last year, but I want to be cautious on anything I'm unsure of. :) KatCheez 20:14, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

No problem. I was trying to find some warning template but I am running out of time. Maybe some other editor can post it in the ip talk page, otherwise I will do it tomorrow morning (my time ) Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 20:19, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Hey Kat. Yes, you should warn vandals and report them if they persist. You can report obvious and persistent vandals at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism, but before posting there, a final warning in an escalating series should have been posted to the user's talk page. Some example of the last in some common warning series are {{Uw-vandal4}}, {{Uw-spam4}} and {{Uw-speedy4}}). See Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace for more. What is implied by the template name is that the prior warnings you would give are the same templates in lower numbers, e.g., {{Uw-vandal}}, then {{Uw-vandal2}}, then...You don't always need to start with a first level warning though. It depends on the nature of the edit – how egregious it is.

Generally, in order for a block report to be acted upon, the user must have vandalized within the last few hours, including after the final warning was given but I would block for a single warning if the edit is bad enough, such as for racism. Your block request is unlikely to be acted upon unless you follow these steps. Cases that are not simple vandalism can be reported at WP:AN/I. Of course, in conjunction with warning against and reporting vandalism, you have the ability, mandate and are encouraged to revert all instances of vandalism you find yourself. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:46, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Hey, Kat! If you want to simplify all this a bit, you can go to your preferences and enable Twinkle. All editors are eligible to use it to revert vandalism and it allows you to revert the vandalism, opens the editor's talk and gives you a menu of warning templates. It also automates reporting to WP:AIV and several other notice boards and in addition, automates the notices and reporting for any of the three deletion processes. Gtwfan52 (talk) 22:16, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

• The edit in question does not look like vandalism to me. It looks like an expression of enthusiasm regarding the subject of the article. It's not useful in any way, so blanking it from the talk page does not do any harm, but it's not vandalism. (See WP:NOTVAND.) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:15, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Editor of the Week

Hey there! What is it about? Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 17:05, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

@Miss Bono: Welcome back to the Teahouse! The Editor of the Week Award is typically given to obscure editors who do great work somehow, somewhere. ^King Jakob _C2 17:17, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

@King jakob c 2: Wao! Thanks :) Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 17:25, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Hey there, Miss Bono! EoW is a project that started at the editor retention project. The purpose is to recognize under-recognized editors. As much as you seem to like helping out here, I think you would be a great addition to WP:WER. Would you consider joining? Please follow the links and take a look!Gtwfan52 (talk) 17:26, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

@Gtwfan52: Awesome. Thanks for the invitation! :) I will. I will ned someone covering my back, just in case I mess something up :) Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 17:30, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

As a recipient, its a cool thing to have and yes, being proudly obscure has its moments, honestCoal town guy (talk) 17:40, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

I will nevere know that :( Coal town guy Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 18:02, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Well Miss Bono, if you ever need to know about a small obscure populated place in North America, drop me a line........Coal town guy (talk) 00:13, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Coal town guy I'll do. Do you mean West Virginia? Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 12:09, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Miss Bono Pretty much anywhere. I am working with some kind folks at the Geographic Name Information System to update their records for the post office in Spotted Horse, Wyoming at the moment. While Spotted Horse has a population of two at the moment, data is dataCoal town guy (talk) 12:27, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

TwO pEoPlE???? No way! :D Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 12:29, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Certainly, they are rather polite when serving a beer after a long day of cycling. My moms town has 11 people, and I do believe Thurmond, West Virginia has 2 as well, I am not certain because I used to know the family who lived on the hill. I have watched some places become de populated in totum, and some meet a bulldozer and disappear, its rather eerie. As I grew up near these types of places, I have found Wikipedia MOST accepting of having them documented in some fashion. It beats watching TV...honest. Coal town guy (talk) 12:39, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Question About Over Aggressive Deleter

Hey guys, thanks for your help. Myself and a few other supporters of Kyle McMahon took great care in creating his article. We began by using the Wikipedia Live Help to see if it was even possible to do. We used the editors at Live Help to help us create the article before we submitted. Throughout the whole process, we went to the editors at Live Help to make sure we were doing everything correctly. The article was approved by 2 editors recently and published. The article was then marked for deletion by a user who claims that the subject has no releases and is a "back up dancer only". None of that is true, so it seems that the deleter has not even read the article. Subject has 2 national / international releases, one with Tina Turner. Subject has been on Oprah 4 times in the last 3 months, trended on Twitter, has gotten airplay on MTV within the last 3 months, was MTV's Rock The Vote artist for Delaware, was featured in a documentary on ESPN for managing a golf Pro at the US Open and has started a campaign against fatherlessness with two other public figures (who also have their own wikipedia articles). We took great care in sourcing everything (over 35 sources) and again, used the editors at LiveHelp to make sure we were doing everything right and subject was good to publish. Is there anything that can be done about this? Thanks for your help guys! FeerTheDeer FeerTheDeer (talk) 15:54, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Dear FeerTheDeer: The best way to keep the article from being deleted is to point out articles in which independent journalists or authors have written about the subject in published books, magazines, news reports, etc. In your defense of the article at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kyle McMahon, you should add links to the references that back up the notable activities that you mention. For example, if he was on a TV show, you can't use the show for a reference; you have to find an article written about the show by an author that is not connected with him or the show. Also, the person who nominated the article won't make the decision to delete it; an administrator will decide, based on a consensus among various editors who comment. Leaving a notice to let people know about the discussion is a good idea, as long as you realize that they may not all agree with your position. —Anne Delong (talk) 16:58, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks so much (talk) You're amazing! FeerTheDeer (talk) 18:04, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Photos or videos.

As you may understand already I am new to all this. So the question is how can I import photos or videos in the article

Thank you Tirooriroo (talk) 12:06, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Tirooriroo. This is one of the tricky areas, for two reasons. First, it is a two stage process: the media must first be uploaded either to Wikipedia or (preferably) to Wikimedia Commons, and then can be wikilinked in an article. But the point that often gives problems is that Wikipedia is very very strict about copyright. To cut a long story short, most pictures and videos are copyright and may only be used if the copyright owner explicitly releases them under an appropriate license ('permission to use on Wikipedia' is not enough). There are certain circumstances in which copyright images may be used without permission, but they are very restricted. So if you or somebody you know owns the copyright and is willing to licence them, then go ahead and upload them; but for most images found on the internet you may not. See WP:IMAGES for more information. --ColinFine (talk) 13:58, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

If you publish an article can you later update, correct or revise text?Tirooriroo (talk) 12:01, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

If you publish an article can you later update, correct or revise text?Tirooriroo (talk) 12:01, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes absolutely. You just do it in the same way that you've been editing the page in your user space. Valenciano (talk) 12:04, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Updation made and session expired

Hello WikiPeople

I was updating an article on Small Business Software. Since I am new to editing article on Wikipedia, I spent almost two days in updating this article, collected definitions from many external web sources and wikipedia references and tried making it informative article.

Since I was editing from last two days, without shutting down my laptop, so when I completed edit and saved the changes, it floated message "session timed out" I exit and tried saving again, it showed the success message. But I felt the article editing was not saved by my name.

Please let me know how to update it.

Also I having problem in citing the sources I have used in the reference section. I studied help section but there are many solutions since confusing.Priyanka Berry 11:14, 13 August 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by PriyankaBerry18 (talk • contribs)

Hello PriyankaBerry18 and welcome to the Teahouse. Unfortunately, it sounds like the "session expired" error is something that is happening on your machine and/or web browser and not the wiki software. I'm afraid any edits you were drafting are probably lost. In terms of editing, you should be able to edit as normal. If you are doing a large revision of an article, you may wish to save the page after you've completed each paragraph - this is a perfectly acceptable way of editing and would reduce the risk of the situation described above occurring.

As for referencing, our best guide is WP:Referencing for beginners. Please let us know which bits of this guide you would like clarification on. --LukeSurl ^{t c} 12:12, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Lukeurl,

Thanks for the immediate reply.

Currently I am browsing through Reference for beginners.Priyanka Berry 12:39, 13 August 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by PriyankaBerry18 (talk • contribs)

This is actually caused by the Mediawiki software. PriyankaBerry18, it would be very helpful to me to know the exact name of the page you were working on and whether you were using the new WP:VisualEditor editing environment or if you were using the older "wikitext" one (this page uses the wikitext editor). Both of them can cause this error, but in both cases it ought to be possible to save your changes correctly. Thank you, Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:55, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

How do you create multipe sandboxes?

Hi,

I'm trying to create and submit three articles: one about a politician/campaigning journalist, and two about commercial organisations he has been involved with.

Can I create multiple sandboxes to develop these, and if so, how?

Thanks

Christopher Sean Webb (talk) 09:51, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Christopher. Yes, you can create multiple drafts. Use names such as User:Christopher Sean Webb/article title, putting the relevant title in place of article title. Before you submit them for review, make sure you read WP:1st, and WP:Referencing for beginners. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:06, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks David - I've looked through articles you recommended but they don't seem to answer the 'how' part of my question. Any ideas on where I can find that?

Christopher Sean Webb (talk) 10:21, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Click the red link above & change the article title to what you want, or otherwise put User:Christopher Sean Webb/article title into the search box, change the title, & go from there where it should give you a "Start the User:Christopher Sean Webb/article title page" option. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:33, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

• Hello and welcome to the Teahouse Christopher Sean Webb! I've been working on a template that makes creating multiple drafts in your userspace a cinch. I've taken the liberty of adding my userbox to your User:Christopher Sean Webb/sandbox page. All you need to do is type in the name of a draft that you want to create and click the button. A new page will load up for you all named and ready to go with the {{Userspace draft}} template and some other basic instructions and you can start creating. The nice thing about my template is that every time you go back to User:Christopher Sean Webb/sandbox, there will be a nice neat list of all of the sandboxes you have been creating which makes it super easy to find them all. :) Happy editing! Technical 13 (talk) 12:03, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Renaming an article

Hi, I want to expand a biography-stub on a 19th c. actor called Frederick Robson. At present the article is wrongly named though (a mix of Robson's stage name, real name and a small typo.) How do I best correct this?RLamb (talk) 06:08, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Check out WP:MOVE. It explains how to move a page to a new name. RudolfRed (talk) 06:41, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I've moved it but not yet completed clean-up. I will come back to this as soon as I can.RLamb (talk) 07:44, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

2 queries re: use of tables

Hi I have the following questions about tables:

1. I am reviewing articles on Ayyubid dynasty rulers. Most have a table at the bottom with names of all dynasty members, but the entry for the father of the dynasty, Najm ad-Din Ayyub, doesn't. I'd like to copy the table from the bottom of the article about his brother, Shirkuh, into the one about Ayyub. I just wanted to check in case this might violate some principle of how information is organised, meaning the table ought not really to go there.

2. Could someone please point me to instructions on how to copy and paste a table from one article into another?

Many thanks Mccapra (talk) 03:22, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Mccapra, and welcome to the Teahouse. I assume this is the table you were referring to: Template:Ayyubid dynasty. To add it to an article, just put {{Ayyubid dynasty}} at the bottom of the page. Also, you might want to add Najm ad-Din Ayyub to the table. To do that, click "edit source" on the template page, find where Ayyub goes, and add him. Howicus (talk) 03:39, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Thanks for your quick response. Yes it was that table I meant. I see what to do now. Many thanks. Mccapra (talk) 06:03, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Salem (Days of our Lives)

I read the WP Article Salem (Days of our Lives). My opinion of the article is this, it is terrible. It reads like a fan site. I don't think there are sources for anything in the article. The article also has one of those This article has multiple issues boxes dating from September 2009, which is almost four years old. I agree with all of the multiple issues but I cannot even imagine where to start. If I removed everything that did not have a source,there would not even be an article at all. Can someone look at the article and give me some tips on what I can do to improve it? I would file an AFD but I don't know how. The article is full of fan cruft statements. I know the prose of the article is bad. I think Salem (Days of our Lives) should be trimmed down and merged to the Days of our Lives WP page. How do you merge an article to another article? Does there have to be a voting process? I'm not in a rush to do work on the Salem article,since I'm still working on the Dance Moms article,but since the Salem article is so bad,and has been tagged with issues for four years I plan to start on it next so any tips on where to start would be appreciated.BeckiGreen (talk) 02:21, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

How do I remove the citations and verification disclaimer?

Hi!

On my biography page there's a disclaimer from 2010 that reads as follows:

! This biographical article needs additional citations for verification. Please help by adding reliable sources. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately, especially if potentially libelous or harmful. (March 2010)

Very recently I added numerous citations for verification -- one for each statement of fact -- so can the disclaimer now be removed? If so it would be much appreciated. Here is the link to the page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Hornaday

Thank you in advance for your help!Jdh3777 (talk) 02:03, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes, you have added tons of sources. Only problem is that many are not reliable sources (especially IMdB), and the ones that are are not independent of the subject. The #1 citation is the only one that shows notability. I would not remove the tag, as the article still needs help. Gtwfan52 (talk) 02:44, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Jeffrey. As the subject of the article, you have a conflict of interest, and so should not be editing the article directly at all, except to remove any information which is both wrong and unreferenced. Your best course is to find sources that have written about you which are both reliable and independent of you (i.e. not your agents, promoters, employers) and add a section on the article's talk page explaining anything you think should be changed, and giving the references to the sources. --ColinFine (talk) 10:20, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Can't change title!

Hi,

I created a page here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Riqiv23 but the TITLE is "User:Riqiv23"

I didn't realize "saving" the page in my personal sandbox would make it appear online! It appears I don't have enough "edits" to move the page myself.

From: "User:Riqiv23" > "Richie Vitale"

Can I somehow change the TITLE to: Richie Vitale

That is preferred . . . otherwise if should be deleted.

I also asked this same question here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#Can.27t_change_title.21 as I am not sure where the correct area is to beginner questions?

Thank you! Riqiv23 (talk) 00:54, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

I am guessing you are not "Autoconfirmed" yet. Only autoconfirmed editors can move pages. In any case,  Done Gtwfan52 (talk) 02:01, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Does that mean: I must have had the account for four days and made at least ten article edits with it)? Riqiv23 (talk) 02:08, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

exactly. Note tho that I moved it for you! Gtwfan52 (talk) 02:10, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Also please note that the page you created it on (which is now gone and could be recreated by you) is not your "sandbox". That was your userpage, a page that allows you to put some info up that tells other editors what you are about on Wikipedia. If you want a sandbox, just for experimenting in or as a place to start a new article, you generally create a separate page in userspace. See WP:UP for all the rules on userpages. If you click the following link and put {{user sandbox}} on the page and save it, you will have a sandbox! User:Riqiv23/sandbox Welcome to Wikipedia and happy editing! Gtwfan52 (talk) 02:17, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

---

Wow, you are super awesome!
Thx for putting the article up and changing the name!
I will review WP:UP for all the rules on userpages.

Riqiv23 (talk) 02:41, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

User:Amellondon/sandbox

Hello,

The article i am editing at present in my sandbox looks like this [1]

Please would you review and could you kindly tell me how the article formats in to Wikipedia layout ie: with a picture etc? is this something that's done once my article is finalised and ready to go live? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amellondon (talk • contribs)

Hello Amellodon, welcome to the Teahouse. I don't really understand what formatting you mean. A picture isn't really necessary, and can wait until later. Could you provide an example of the formatting you're talking about? Howicus (talk) 22:34, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Amellondon. The article could maybe use an infobox, but that isn't required. What is required, however is some proof of notability. All biographical articles have to have references, to independent, reliable secondary sources to show notability. The specific requirements for musicians is at WP:NMUSIC. If independent, reliable sources haven't "made note" of a subject, then that subject is not eligible for an article. You will need to add some references showing where your subject is being talked about in detail in either newspapers, magazines, radio or TV news, books, or reviewed academic journals. Gtwfan52 (talk) 02:08, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Changing name of an image

I mess something up. I uploaded a new logo for a new wikiproject but instead of naming WP NCIS Logo I named it File:WP_U2_Logo.jpeg I need some help to change it :) Pleaseee Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 18:18, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

I have moved it to File:WikiProject NCIS Logo.jpg without leaving a redirect on the misleading name. WP usually means Wikipedia and could cause confusion. jpg is far more common than jpeg. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:24, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you so much. Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 19:26, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Article hasn't been edited yet...been weeks

Hi, I submitted an article using The Article Wizard to be edited, and that was weeks ago. I don't know where it is in the editing process at all. I talked to someone online last week about this, and the said it was being edited as we were speaking. This is very frustrating, no one seems to know where the page is and this has taken weeks.

Mtully95 (talk) 18:00, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

This is what was said on the question I asked that was archived:

Hi, I keep trying to create an article for this mail client that I use--Inky Mail. Everytime I create the article it gets deleted right away and is said to be too promotional. In my opinion it doesn't sound promotional--it sounds just like all the other articles. I would like to send my article to someone and have them edit it--is that possible? Because I'm not getting direct answers from the people that keep blocking me and deleting my articles. Mtully95 (talk) 15:05, 1 August 2013 (UTC) Mtully, welcome to the Teahouse. it wasn't written in a neutral tone, that's the essence of the problem. You can't use terms like "is known for its unique smart views and relevance sorting" and "has been embraced by the press". The first response to these types of claims is "says who?" Ok so there was a reference to Forbes that sort of supported the second claim but it's not enough, there need to be far more references and the language needs to be toned down. What is needed are more reliable sources that comment upon the software. NtheP (talk) 15:54, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your response! Inky has been written about by notable magazines---am I supposed to include every article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mtully95 (talk • contribs) 16:05, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

You can include as many as you feel necessary to establish that it's a notable product and if you're going to try and justify flowery language (and to be frank I wouldn't bother) you'll need several for every claim. You also need to make sure it's balanced so if there is criticism you need to include that too, not just the good stuff. So if several reviews have said it's relevance sorting is great but a number of others have said the rest of the UI is pants, you must be even handed and included both. NtheP (talk) 16:15, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay great--thanks! I submitted my article for review, but when I go to my profile it says that I've submitted nothing. Is there a way for someone to check and see if what I submitted was received? I know it won't be edited for a while though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mtully95 (talk • contribs) 17:53, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Inky Mail was declined, because you submitted it without including any content. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:58, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

You should only submit the article once it is actually done :) -- t numbermaniac c 06:19, 3 August 2013 (UTC)"

I am so confused at this point because I submitted it with all of the content. I submitted it with everything. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mtully95 (talk • contribs) 18:04, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Mtully, assuming this is the article in question, the problem is you haven't yet submitted it for review. Until you do that, it is unlikely others will work on it. When you are ready for it to be published (which is up to you - make sure you have addressed all the feedback), click the green button that says submit for review, and it will be reviewed. Sorry for your frustration; hope this helps. Go Phightins! 18:07, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

That said, reading the article, make sure you write it from a non-promotional, neutral point of view. It sounds to me like an advertisement of sorts. Write about it using a tone that borders on boring - the article should be informational not promotional. Go Phightins! 18:08, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Another obvious problem with the article is that the quotes are external links. An article like this should have only one external link, at the very end of the article, to the software's official website. The quotes should be cited to the sources, and those references can link to the source. Please read Referencing for beginners for an explanation of the proper techniques for formatting these references. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 19:34, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

I failed the article because it again sounds too promotional. Also, articles should never be written in second person. More notes on the actual page. -- ^t numbermaniac ^c 03:06, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:TWA

It is not working for me. Whe I click Mission1 2 3, etc. I doesn't show anything. What is wrong? What it does supposed to do? Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 13:29, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

The place to as would be Wikipedia talk:The Wikipedia Adventure, but did you read the bit at the top of WP:TWA that says: "You do need Visual Editor and Javascript enabled for the tour to work properly."? - David Biddulph (talk) 13:37, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Oh, thanks dave. I didn't read the VE part ;). let's see if it works if i enable it. Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 13:40, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

it did nothing :( Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 13:42, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Miss Bono, what browser are you using? VisualEditor doesn't work on Opera or Internet Explorer. öBrambleberry of RiverClan 15:10, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Mozilla Firefox. Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 15:11, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

It's likely this is a Javascript problem, as VE is only required for TWA to make some of the editing lessons make sense. Since you're on Firefox, I have no clue how you would turn on Javascript. Someone else may be able to help with that :) ~Charmlet ^-talk- 15:16, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Reference section; Wellsville, Ohio page

When I try to edit the REFERENCE section of the Wellsville, Ohio page I do not see the information that is already on the page. Thank you FDLeyda (talk) 12:26, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi FDLeyda. When you are reading an article and see a references section near the bottom populated by a series of numbered citations, you might think that if you edit the page, or that section, you will see those citations typed in that section and be able to edit them. However, normally what you will see is code similar to this:

     ==References==

   {{Reflist}} or <references/>

The text of citations is actually in the body of the article, directly next to statements or paragraphs the citations support, using <ref>(citation)</ref> tags, which display as footnotes (e.g.^[1][2]) when you are reading an article. The template code shown above in the references section collates and displays all of the citations within the article in a numbered list in which the numbers correspond to the footnote numbers in the text. By clicking on the ^ symbol next to a citation display, you can easily find exactly where in the body of the article the citation text appears in order to edit it. For more, please see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:39, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

How to resolve multiple issues?

Hi, we appear to have 'multiple issues' with our Wikipedia entry:

"This article has multiple issues. Please help improve it or discuss these issues on the talk page. A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject. (July 2013) This article appears to be written like an advertisement. (July 2013) This article relies on references to primary sources. (July 2013)"

I'm not sure how to resolve each of these?

Thank you!The Case Centre (talk) 10:33, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello The Case Centre, and welcome to the Teahouse. I'll start with the first one. Your username is the same as the name of the article, The Case Centre. User names that promote a company or organization are against Wikipedia policy, because Wikipedia editors are supposed to be neutral individual authors, not representatives of organizations. It's going to be hard to get rid of this tag, because it's true. Changing your user name to a personal one is the first step. —Anne Delong (talk) 10:53, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your help. I've now changed the user name. I'm not sure if I need to do anything else in relation to the multiple issues? Many thanks again, DeborahThe Case Centre (talk) 11:07, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello again - that was quick! Articles that are written in a promotional instead of neutral way, especially those which use an organization's own web site for references instead of neutral sources such as news reports, magazine articles, books, etc., and particularly those which are written by members of the organization, are usually deleted from the encyclopedia. To prevent this, you need to quickly find and add some references. Alternatively, you could move your article to your sandbox (of your new user name), and then submit it to WP:Articles for creation, where reviewers will keep asking for improvements until the article is satisfactory, but won't delete it as long as it's not a copyright violation. —Anne Delong (talk) 11:16, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Deborah, your user name appears to be the same. Did you log out and log in with the new name? —Anne Delong (talk) 11:21, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you again, Anne. I appreciate your help. I tried logging out and logging in with my new user name, but it didn't recognise it. Perhaps a time lapse? I filled out the form etc as instructed. Thanks again. DeborahThe Case Centre (talk) 11:39, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

The form is not actioned instantaneously as soon as you fill it out; it requires human intervention I believe. From the current contents of Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple it seems not to have been done yet. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 11:46, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, Anne. You've been really helpful. I found one external link and added it. We're a not-for-profit organisation and registered charity. Hope we're not taken down! Kind regards :)The Case Centre (talk) 12:07, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

...and thank you Arthur! :) The Case Centre (talk) 12:50, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Deborah. Wikipedia makes no distinction between commercial and non-commercial organisations: the issue is whether the organisation meets the criteria for notability, and whether the text is written from a neutral point of view, not how worthy the organisation is. --ColinFine (talk) 17:11, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Deborah! One thing you should be clear on. All Wikipedia articles are required to show notability, a term that is quite confusing to newcomers. Notability has nothing to do with fame or importance; instead, it simply means that the thing you are writing about has been "noted" (by independent, reliable sources). It is a long explanation as to why that is, but as tertiary sources, all encyclopedias have the same requirement. If secondary sources are not writing about your subject, it cannot have an article. All the sourcing on your article right now is primary, that is it is all coming from the organization's website. If that does not change, and fast, the article will be nominated for deletion. Have newspapers, magazines, radio or TV news done stories on the organization? Have books been written about it? Have academic papers been written on it and published in reviewed journals? If the answer to all those questions is no, then you do not have an article. If it is yes, please cite them. Good luck! Gtwfan52 (talk) 01:27, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

How to publish a translation

Hello. I would like to know how can I publish an English translation of an article that already exists on Wikipedia in German. Thank you. Curnau (talk) 10:05, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Curnau. See Wikipedia:Translation. If you are unsure how to create the actual page then see Wikipedia:Your first article#How to create a page. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:24, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

How to get independent sources into my article?

I am creating the english version of an article about an Austrian organization (German article already exists): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/HOPE%2787 However, it got rejected repeadetly as it is lacking "independent" sources. I don't quite know what to do now, because as for facts about the organization (like mandate, structure etc.) there is no other sources than their own webpage and activity reports. I have looked at a lot of similar pages and they all refer to the organization's own webpages and publications... For all other things, like partnerships, legal seals, affiliation with government institutions etc., I've already added sources. Could you give me some advice on that?Christie16888 (talk) 07:08, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Most of your article is description, much like an organization would write on its web page. An encyclopedia article is different. We need to see what the organization has done, with dates, probably in chronological order. This will have been covered by newspapers and other news sources. Use these as reference. Replace the description with a brief summary and references to the material on their web site. Then put in what they are doing, with references. Good luck. StarryGrandma (talk) 10:30, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Marking Content For Deletion?

Hi, How does one properly mark specific content (at the sentence level, the paragraph level, and/or at a whole section level) for deletion? I've specifically found things like individual references, sentences, paragraphs, and even whole sections that don't meet WP policy standards and, rather than just deleting, was wondering if the right approach is to mark things for deletion. Any thoughts on the matter are greatly appreciated. -- My Best, --FGuerino (talk) 03:47, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, FGuerino. If you believe that a portion of an article violates policy so completely that the material is of no value, then simply remove it, explaining your reasoning in an edit summary. If another editor reverts, adding the content back, then discuss the matter on the article's talk page, and try to reach consensus. If the problems are less severe, such as the lack of a reference to a reliable source to verify the information, then you can add a {{Citation needed}} tag to that material. If the material is not written in appropriately, from the neutral point of view, then rewrite it to comply. If it is unclear, then rewrite to clarify. The bottom line is that you can be bold, and solve problems on your own, always guided by our policies and guidelines. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:35, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict)::Hi, FGuerino! This is a great question. You do not need to mark parts of articles for deletion, you just do it and leave an edit summary as to why you did. Just remember, that according to WP:BRD (an essay describing our basic editing model), when you Boldly change an article, someone else may Revert it; at which time you go to the articles talk page and Discuss it and form a consensus as to what the edit should look like. In other words, if you take it out and someone puts it back, do not just take it out again; start a discsussion on the talk page and form a consensus that all the involved editors can live with. Gtwfan52 (talk) 04:44, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

My thanks to both of you (Cullen³²⁸ and Gtwfan52). I appreciate your taking the time to help educate me on the matter. -- My Best --FGuerino (talk) 12:47, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

How would I request an assessment?

While working on disambig links I found this article it states is an un-assessed article. How would one tag it for assessment? And what exactly does that mean? Does it mean so it could be categorized as stub/start class etc? Thanks TattØØdẄaitre§ lĖTŝ tÅLĶ 16:47, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Nice to see you at the Teahouse again, Tattoodwaitress. Any editor can assess an article as Stub, Start, C, B or A, and this is usually done by applicable Wikiprojects. The top assessments, namely Good article and Featured article, are formal processes done by groups of editors. The article is already tagged for assessment, and you can click the blue link at the top to learn more about assessment. You can see that it is assigned to Wikiproject Dentistry on the article's talk page. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 18:46, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much Cullen, and I shall go and check that out. I am having a hard time... how do i tell that it has already been tagged for assessment? Thanks Tattoodwaitress♥LetsTalk 18:47, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Tagging it as unassessed, which has been done, amounts to a request for someone to assess it. It shows up on lists of unassessed articles, which are used by editors who like to work on assessments. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 18:55, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Oh so it doesn't have to be tagged like this one Classic Car Journalist Tattoodwaitress♥LetsTalk 21:34, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

I am seeing a red link and don't see that article even without capitalization. Can you clarify which article you mean, Tattoodwaitress? Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 22:34, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Ah I believe the article was deleted already. (ah yes: "A page with this title has previously been deleted.") Sorry so late in replying Cullen, I didnt realize you had responded again. Tattoodwaitress♥LetsTalk 23:58, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Can I jump onto this thread and ask is it the same for assessing the importance (Low, Mid, Top) of articles? I can't find policy on this anywhere. Thanks, Tomásdearg92 (talk) 01:45, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Tomás. It is pretty much the same; you can leave it as unassessed if you want someone else's input, or you can decide on your own. When I rate articles for importance, I generally err on the side of less important if I'm not sure which one to do. I, Jethrobot ^{drop me a line} (note: not a bot!) 02:14, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a mill User:I Jethrobot, much appreciated. Tomásdearg92 (talk) 02:26, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Teahouse in other languages?

Tim Moritz Hector and Lydia Pintscher of WMDE talked at Wikimania about porting the Teahouse to other languages. They want to try to do it for de.wp in 2014. I will present the idea to my fellow board members at the board retreat two weeks from now. We want to learn from your experiences and we need your help. Ad Huikeshoven (talk) 10:02, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Ad Huikeshoven, and I hope you are enjoying Hong Kong. I visited there 21 years ago. Please note that SarahStierch is attending Wikimania and was instrumental in the early days of the Teahouse. Please discuss the idea with her. You can ask me any questions you want about being a host, but I kniw little about the "back office" or technical aspects. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 19:07, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Cullen. I'm back in Europe now. I have talked to SarahStierch before Wikimania aboout this subject. At Wikimania I attended the Fun is Serious Business talk by Heather and Siko which included a huge section about Teahouse research. Thanks for your kind words. I'll do my best to become a nice host. Ad Huikeshoven (talk) 17:58, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Ad Huikeshoven I suggested a Spanish Teahouse at the Spanish Wikipedia but they disagreed. Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 18:01, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Userboxes?

I have created 2 userboxes in my user page. But how can I make it a template?? BenisonPBaby 06:54, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

• Hello BenisonPBaby and welcome to the Teahouse! I've taken the liberty of moving your userboxes to their own user space templates. I've also added a little template I've been working on that should maker creating userboxes easier.

Your two boxes are:

Code	Result
{{User:BenisonPBaby/userboxes/Proud Indian}}	User:BenisonPBaby/userboxes/Proud Indian	Usage
{{User:BenisonPBaby/userboxes/Real Madrid}}	User:BenisonPBaby/userboxes/Real Madrid	Usage

The other template I mentioned is on User:BenisonPBaby/userboxes and all you have to do to create more new userboxes is type in a name for the userbox and click create, wait a moment and a new edit window will come up, fill in the template parameters, and finally click save. Happy editing! Technical 13 (talk) 13:26, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Review Poaching editing history and Talk:Poaching to see if I am off base.

I am very new here nad seem to have gotten myself involved in an editing war almost immedialtely. I am concerned that undue weight is being given to one particularly broad definition gleaned from acedemic sources. I did come in kind of heavy at the very first but I attempted to regroup and work on a solution that included as much of the source material as possible. I do not feel my efforts are yeilding a ballanced lede. Could someone please take a look at what has been going on and let me know if I have missed something. I am having a really hard time with assuming good faith. Thank You Economic Refugee (talk) 02:02, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello Economic Refugee. I think you may need some more specialized help. Have you thought of contacting a Wikiproject to find other editors who are knowledgeable about this topic? Wikipedia:WikiProject International law, maybe? or Wikipedia:WikiProject Extinction? —Anne Delong (talk) 12:00, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Anne Delong, I am fairly knowledgable about the subject, but being new here I am unsure if the conflict is typical. I am also concerned about my own neutrality and was hoping someone would look at the nature of the conflict. I do not really want to ask for arbitration or administerial help until I feel more confident that I am doing this in the best way I can. As I said, I am very challenged to keep myself in the "assuming good faith" state of mind. I have given few responses that could be interpreted as less than civil and I am seeking advice while I search for my balance here. Thank you Economic Refugee (talk) 00:19, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Dear Economic Refugee: From time to time there is definitely conflict, as there is in any community with a large number of people. It's worse when there are only two people involved, because it's all too easy for each of the two to assume that he or she is in the right. If a dispute goes on to the point where people are repeating themselves or realizing that they can't agree, it's time to get other opinions. Name calling, etc., never helps. The trick is to find interested editors. Many editors have their favourite Wikiprojects on their watchlist, which is why I suggested leaving a message there. Also, you could look at the article's history and see who has worked on it before and leave them a message. However, if the dispute goes on and you feel that the article is being damaged, you can ask for help at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard. I hope this helps. —Anne Delong (talk) 01:03, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Economic Refugee! I am a Junior Wrangler here at the Teahouser, and I have assessed your contributions at Talk:Poaching. Having seen your commentary, "Bullshit!!! I am sick of yor arrogant attitude. You obviously do not understand what an encycopedia is, neither do you understand colaborration niether do you understand neutrality" on that page, my recommendation would be that you choose a different topic on which to contribute. Perhaps one about which you do not feel so strongly. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:26, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I admitted to being uncivil and asked for advice on how to deal with the conflict. I feel strongly about all versions of accuracy. It will not matter what the subject matter is. I deleted the uncivl message, I hope that is ok. Thanks for looking. Economic Refugee (talk) 02:30, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

One thing to keep in mind when editing here. It doesn't matter what you know, or what you believe is true. All that matters is what you can prove by referencing reliable sources. You may find WP:TRUTH enlightening. As you can tell from the responses you have gotten, we at Teahouse don't get involved in editing disputes. We just tell you how to go about resolving them. Happy editing! Gtwfan52 (talk) 02:53, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Category pages

I'm trying to create the category pages for the Article importance grading scheme of the new WikiProject NCIS and have already created the Category:Top-importance NCIS articles. I'm having trouble figuring out how to attach the category to the talk pages of the appropriate articles, and none of the links seem to be working. Can someone please explain how this should be done? Thanks. --1ST7 (talk) 03:56, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Those should be added automatically by your {{WikiProject NCIS}} banner template. You will probably need to ask for someone at WT:COUNCIL to help you make the banner work correctly. WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:00, 13 August 2013 (UTC)