User talk:Mark Arsten

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Mahusha

Can I edit the article India. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahusha (talk • contribs) 03:20, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes you may. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:23, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

PPACA

Hi Mark Arsten, thank you for your help fully protecting Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act a week ago. The full protection period has expired, and I was wondering if you could restore the article's indefinite semi-protection, which it had before being fully protected (see diff). Thanks! –Prototime (talk · contribs) 23:20, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I've semi'd it. We really need to get the protection settings fixed so full and semi-protection can run at the same time like PC and semi do. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:44, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Agreed. –Prototime (talk · contribs) 00:44, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Tuerxun Jumabieke

Deleted Tuerxun Jumabieke? Why!? Dumbass! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 179.197.47.183 (talk) 04:54, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

The article was deleted because it appeared that he did not meet the WP:NMMA guideline, sorry. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:00, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Dipendra

Hi, Mark! I wonder would you help me to get rid of File:Dipendra.jpg ([1]), which I uploaded almost three years ago. Now, there is a Commons-uploaded file with the same name ([2]), which can't be used until my non-free version is deleted. As an admin, can you please speed it up because "speedy deletion" isn't so speedy after all... Thanks in advance! --Sundostund (talk) 00:01, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Looks like someone beat me to it! Mark Arsten (talk) 18:42, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

hi

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	hi how are you Stuartjw (talk) 10:06, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm fine, what's up? Mark Arsten (talk) 18:43, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Stockton Beach RFPP

I'm a bit confused over your response at RFPP. There's no actual edit-warring. I reverted the editor twice but gave up and have been tagging the OR as it's added (and there's quite a lot of it). I don't see how this could be reported to WP:AN3. --AussieLegend (✉) 21:17, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I thought you had reverted him three times, I guess I miscounted. Anyway, since it's only one user who will be autoconfirmed in a few days, semi-protection won't be of much use here. Mark Arsten (talk) 21:20, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protection for 3 days might at least get him to talk since he won't be able to edit the page until then. Otherwise I don't know what to do. --AussieLegend (✉) 21:24, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Well, you could revert him and then ask for a third opinion about the additions. Mark Arsten (talk) 21:25, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

If I revert him, he's just going to revert again. He's restored the same content that had previously been reverted, once as a single edit that also added more OR,[3], and then as a series of edits that added even more.[4] It was at that point that I started tagging the OR. he clearly understands what I'm saying, but claims he doesn't know how to reply,[5] even though he clearly knows how to post. I'm trying to avoid an edit war but he clearly thinks he doesn't have to comply with WP:NOR.[6] WP:3O doesn't seem an option. It clearly states "Before making a request here, be sure that the issue has been thoroughly discussed on the article talk page. 3O is only for assistance in resolving disagreements that have come to a standstill." We haven't discussed because he refuse to (I don't believe his claim that he doesn't know how to post a response). --AussieLegend (✉) 21:40, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

November 2013

Hi Mark, I think you are unnecessarily harsh. You could have added "citation needed" as was done to the previous paragraph. I don't immediately have time to look up the appropriate citations, but if you know anything about hygiene, you should also know that I am right. As soon as I've found the citations, I shall add them. Dogo (talk) 00:34, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Sorry if I came across as harsh, but health-related information really needs to be cited. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:35, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

You are not only harsh but you also seem to judge texts by different standards. This whole section to which I added my text, does not contain citations. So why had the other text not been removed? I don't say anything more revolutionary than in the previous two paragraphs. A lot of it is basic biology. If every sentence has to carry a citation, more than half of Wikipedia will have to disappear. Keep my text for the time being and I shall look up the references, even the one that is currently being requested. Dogo (talk) 10:45, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

It is true that much of the encyclopedia is poorly sourced, but we should try to avoid making the problem worse by adding more unsourced or poorly sourced content. Maybe some of the article in question should be removed, I'd have to check to see for sure. But anyway, when adding information about human health you should make sure you include a suitable source with your changes. See WP:MEDRS for details. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:51, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

WP:FAG

You asked to be contacted if this were created. It has been. Fiddle Faddle 08:40, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. Is there a consensus about what to do with the lower-case version? Mark Arsten (talk) 16:53, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

It appears that no-one has been brave enough, so far, to close it. It will be an interesting consensus to analyse. Fiddle Faddle 21:36, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I'll wait to see what they do with that one before acting on the upper-case version. Mark Arsten (talk) 21:37, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Makes perfect sense to me. If you have not already, please place that discussion on your watchlist. Fiddle Faddle 21:38, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Actually, what has happened is an unbelievable mess, now. FAG was added today, very late in the deletion discussion, a discussion which ought to have been closed some substantial time ago. Then it was !voted on by several people, then removed again, and the entire thing has gone to hell in a handbasket, with accusations of pointy and disruptive edits. What would be appropriate is a wholly uninvolved admin to work out what to close, and to close it. I'm not asking you to do that. This is simply a briefing for you in case you are not watching the discussion. Fiddle Faddle 22:08, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Someone is in process of reading and closing WP:Fag at present. This is just a heads up. Fiddle Faddle 11:00, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

It has closed as No Consensus. Oddly, that is a better outcome than I expected. Some time ago it would have been a snowball Keep. Instead of that people have considered it as an issue. They have rejected it, and some of the comments are juvenile, but they have considered it. In a year or two such things will be considered differently. Fiddle Faddle 16:51, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Nick Studio 10

Rather WP:LAME case. You semi protected for a week on Nov 19. IPs keep warring over a detail that frankly should not be an issue for anyone over the age of 14. Have a look and see if a longer semi would serve a purpose. Best, Sam Sailor ^Sing 10:12, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, seems like the kids are acting up again :) Mark Arsten (talk) 16:58, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Sam Sailor ^Sing 09:27, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

RFPP changes

Hi Mark, has the RFPP system changed recently? I've just added this using Twinkle and it has gone into an unexpected section. I'm unsure whether this is a TW problem per se or due to RFPP changes - perhaps a change of use in headings that has caused TW to lose its place? - Sitush (talk) 11:12, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Forget that, sorry. It would appear to be a bit of both, per this. I've moved my request, certainly using a screwed-up edit summary and probably at the wrong end of the list but admins are generally intelligent people and will rap my knuckles if appropriate ;) - Sitush (talk) 11:21, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, the way twinkle works with RFPP has gotten all messed up since the headers were changed. Might want to do it manually for the time being. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:54, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

At least the bot keeps on running. Speaking of which, Mark Arsten, did you know by using and RFPP template using, "ch", "chck", "q", "ques", "n", or "note", the bot will set a 24 hour timeout on the request, as it is then being marked as an ongoing discussion rather than not being responded to.—cyberpower _Online^{Merry Christmas} 02:09, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

I really hope that was a typo in your above comment... Mark Arsten (talk) 02:11, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Oops. Sorry. It was a typo. Come to think of it, I seem to be prone to those. My autocorrect turn Mlpearc into Mlprick, and Cyberpower into Cyberpooper.—cyberpower _Online^{Merry Christmas} 02:30, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

LOL, well, I don't feel that bad then :) Mark Arsten (talk) 02:53, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

On a serious note though, thanks a lot for all the work you're doing with the bot and twinkle and so on. I definitely appreciate it. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:01, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Barney the barney barney

I noticed that you recently blocked User:Barney the barney barney for violating the WP:3RR on Rupert Sheldrake. I ask you to reconsider this block. Rupert Sheldrake is normally protected from WP:POV pushers by User:Vzaak, User:TheRedPenOfDoom, and User:Barney the barney barney. Possibly due to the holiday User:TheRedPenOfDoom has been missing since the 24th, and User:Vzaak has been far less active than usual, failing even to respond to allegations against him at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests#Persistent Bullying of Rupert Sheldrake Editors.

User:Alfonzo Green and User:Barleybannocks have taken advantage of the situation by launching a tag-team WP:POV push. User:Barleybannocks is a WP:SPA whose antics on the Sheldrake page have primarily centered around attempting to force his own novel definition of the word “biologist” upon others. While User:Alfonzo Green has been an WP:SPA for the past month and a half (he was inactive for more than a year prior to that). Alfonzo’s recent activities have focused on arguing that Sheldrake’s work isn’t pseudoscience because every single scientist on earth hasn’t actually said the words “Sheldrake’s work is pseudoscience” despite the fact that the arbitration committee has already said that “Obvious pseudoscience: Theories which, while purporting to be scientific, are obviously bogus may be so labeled and categorized as such without more”. User:Alfonzo Green has a personal grudge against User:Barney the barney barney because Barney previously got him blocked for violating WP:3RR. Alfonzo has also been blocked for incivility on Rupert Sheldrake.

While User:Barney the barney barney may have technically violated WP:3RR I would argue that Barney’s actions were necessary to protect Wikipedia and were therefore justified per WP:IGNORE. I understand that Wikipedia administrators can be busy people, but I ask you to please read through Talk:Rupert Sheldrake to get a better sense of the situation. Sheldrake’s talk page should give you an idea of what kind of WP:LAWYERING, WP:ICANTHEARYOU, and all around sophistry Alfonzo and Barley have been engaging in. Alternately, if you won’t unblock Barney then could you consider giving the page full protection for a day? Thanks. 76.107.171.90 (talk) 06:48, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your comments. I'm willing to consider unblocking if an unblock request is filed (and depending on what it says). To make a long story short, my position is that 3RR is a bright-line rule that the community has agreed upon, and there are only a few exceptions to it. As an uninvolved admin, I have to hold both sides to the same standards. Even if someone's reverts do improve the article, they can still be blocked. This block doesn't preclude sanctions against other parties in the conflict though. You might want to propose a topic ban for AG if his editing has been problematic. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:55, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for instituting the 24 block. I too urge you to take a look at the Sheldrake talk page. It's clear that virtually all secondary sources label him a scientist, biologist or biochemist. This is how he's identified even by people who denounce his work. Yet every attempt to identify him as a biologist in the opening sentence has been bocked by people like Barney who seek to impose their POV. And yes, only a tiny number of sources identify his work as pseudoscience. The majority merely disagree with his findings, but this distinction is lost on the POV pushers. Alfonzo Green (talk) 19:56, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

It was inevitable that at least one person would earn a block over this Sheldrake article since it is policed as if its fate will determine the fall of western civilization and the future of science. There are SPAs on both sides and I think folks have lost perspective that it is just one article. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:33, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

World Trigger

I saw this your edit, and I noted that World Trigger was deleted but you (or someone) forgot to delete List of World Trigger characters too. Cheers, Gabriel Yuji (talk) 07:09, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Well, this is kind of silly, but I can't delete it unless the AFD, PROD, or CSD tags have been added to it first. Even though it makes no sense to keep it for any longer, we have to follow procedure. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:57, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Tanveer Alam

He, the page of Tanveer Alam has been deleted, but i feel its a public figure who is working in entertainment industry of India. He was the joint secretary of Indian Film Directors' Association. he did so many serials and films. its worthy to publish his page. i ask you to please read through to get a better sense for the same page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mytanveer (talk • contribs) 13:55, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Well, can you point to where he has received significant coverage in independent reliable sources? See WP:GNG & WP:RS for what I'm looking for. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:01, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Shais Taub

Hi. Thanks for temporarily protecting this page from repeated vandalism. Sadly, the edit war is now continuing. The issue under contention is an alias that is only sourced through public records / primary source. According to Wikipedia's guidelines on BLP, facts gleaned from primary sources should not be included. Could you please intervene. Much thanks.

Ok, I left a comment on the talk page. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:22, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Frank Ra

Question, I'm concerned we have some Ip socking going on at the AFD for this article. Both Ip's are from Vancouver BC. I know that spi won't comment on the identities of IP editors but what is the process when they are voting in AFDs. The user formerly known as Hell In A Bucket (talk) 02:28, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I just deleted the page. Let me know if they come back. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:04, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Semi protection for Megan Young article

Hi Mark! Can you possibly put semi protection to Megan Young article so that only auto confirmed users can edit this biography? I can only see IP addresses of the editors in the edit history. Thank you. greenmarktea78 (talk) 15:03, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Pending-changes protected. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:04, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

"Changes must be reviewed before being displayed on this page"? Hmmmm. Let me see if this approach works. Mark, I noticed you made an edit to Megan Young on December 2nd at 17:03, which alleges that anons like myself are Persistent Vandals. From my reading of WP:PROVEIT, it looks like any edit challenged, or likely to be challenged, requires some sort of evidence. I challenge your edits that day.  :-)   I don't insist on the BBC, or even a blog, but can you at least point to some logfile which documents those dern persistent visigoths that allegedly keep invading this article in mainspace? I didn't see any slobbering horde in the edit-history. HTH.

  p.s. As you may have guessed, I don't believe enWiki and deWiki should be twinkies. I also don't think one visigoth per month is "persistent" enough of a vandal to force us to violate our mission-statement. p.p.s. If you reply, and I don't respond promptly, please ping my talkpage. You can also ask Marktanoja to join us if you like, of course. Thanks. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 23:57, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Looking at the history, I do think there are a number of instances where the page has been vandalized. As it is a WP:BLP, particular care must be taken to protect the article. I don't believe that the use of pending changes violates Wikipedia policy, either. But if you disagree, you are free to request unprotection at WP:RFUP. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:21, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Abhinav Girdhar Deletion

Hello Mark, I dont understand the rationale of deleting the page "Abhinav Girdhar" as the people who are voting on the page knew very little or nothing about startup community of India, If you refer to the below link http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=Q0FQLzIwMTMvMTIvMDIjQXIwMjUwMg then you will see Worlds largest selling english daily The Times of India covered his wedding, which I think is a very notable source and the article revolves around him, this along with other sources that I have previously added will make this article as a permanent fixture, Please advise me on next steps to un-delete this article. • Cxs107 (talk) 17:47, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

That source only has six sentences about him, which isn't quite enough to justify having an article about him. We look for "significant" coverage of individuals before they can have an article. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:55, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks and I understand but this is just 1 Source which I came across today, but if you refer to my article their are atleast 7-8 other notable sources, so this will be just an add on source to what I already have, each an every statement of my article is backed by a notable source and people who have voted delete to the article are not from India and no nothing about the startup community, this deletion to me is totally un-fair. • Cxs107 (talk) 18:00, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Well, you didn't present any good source in the Afd, so it's not fair to blame people for supporting the article's deletion. Looking at the last version of the article before its deletion, I don't see any good sources there either. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:33, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

I didnt get a chance to represent my case, I was on holiday for the thanks giving weekend and I just resumed work today and I see the page is deleted with Votes of people who are not from India and who know Nothing about the notable sources from India. • Cxs107 (talk) 18:45, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Well, feel free to provide me with the sources you have available. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:40, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Sure I will share the article with you with all the sources later today • Cxs107 (talk) 18:57, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Will it be possible for you to temporarily restore the page so I can share all the references with you? • Cxs107 (talk) 19:47, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Hello Mark, As requested, I created a page in sandbox with the current sources and following is the link for the same https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cxs107/sandbox • Cxs107 (talk) 01:40, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Hello Mark, were you able to go through the sources that I provided in the below sandbox link? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cxs107/sandbox • Cxs107 (talk) 16:55, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Well, those sources seem to contain brief mentions of him, not really the significant coverage we look for. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:26, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

The way I see is, when India's #1 News Paper that is Times of India is covering his wedding then the Person needs to be a known personality and they even went to the extent of posting pictures of his wedding on http://photogallery.indiatimes.com/parties/delhi/shagun-abhinavs-wedding-ceremony-/Shagun-Abhinavs-wedding-ceremony/articleshow/26778982.cms also in other articles his role in his companies are clearly defined and each statement of my article is backed by a notable source and juts today I saw his company Appy Pie getting coverage on http://mashable.com/2013/12/03/build-mobile-apps/ & http://www.linkiesta.it/creare-applicazioni and being a founder of Appy Pie makes him a perfect candidate for having a listing on wikipedia (• Cxs107 (talk)19:38, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Deletion review for Appy Pie

I have asked for a deletion review of Appy Pie. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Cxs107 (talk) 22:37, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

• Hello Mark looks like my Article has been restored for discussion, please advise me of how I can replace my old article with the one in I re-drafted at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cxs107/sandbox/Appy_Pie which I think meets all the guidelines of WP.

I don't think there's anything you need to do at present, but you might ask at DRV. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:16, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Hello Mark please see the sources of this page "12 in total" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Appy_Pie all the sources are highly reputable and there is no reason I can think of this page to be deleted, I didnt know what I was supposed to do at DRV, but now I see the page is deleted, please tell me why this page was not re-listed? Cxs107 (talk) 19:00, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

I think you should submit it to Afc and see what the Afc reviewer tells you. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:14, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

I have already done that, also I want the article Name as Appy Pie Inc and not just Appy Pie, how should I go about this? 19:20, 2 December 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cxs107 (talk • contribs)

Well, usually we don't use "Inc" in titles. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:23, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Ok thanks, but In your expert opinion aren't all the sources notable? Cxs107 (talk) 19:25, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Request advice/assistance

Hey, Mark. We have a content dispute at Pink Floyd in which three accounts have teamed-up to block the reversion of a poorly written and dubious claim. Can you please stop by and offer some advice? GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 20:25, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, I don't have a very strong opinion about the matter, sorry. Mark Arsten (talk) 20:56, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Well, it was more to the point of using three accounts to block a reversion. Is that really all one needs to do to block a reversion and degrade an article, is to have two friends help you win an edit war? GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 21:04, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

The best thing to do would be to try to get some more users to weigh in. Maybe send some neutrally worded requests for input to the other top editors of the page or ask on a Wikiproject. Mark Arsten (talk) 21:07, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Do you think that this is sufficiently neutral: "There is a content dispute at Pink Floyd; your input there would be appreciated"? GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 21:35, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes, that would be perfect. My apologies for not getting involved, but it's not a topic I'm very familiar with and it might take a bit of time for me to get up to speed on the issue. Mark Arsten (talk) 21:41, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

No worries, thanks for your advice! GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 21:44, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

• As kind of a side question, what is the proper way to deal with an addition that contains factual errors, or makes claims not supported by the cited source? I am all out of reverts at the article, but the contested addition contains WP:OR and explicitly states something that the source does not. Do I need to leave this error in a FA until the consensus is clearly in favour or removal? GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 22:29, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

That's a tricky situation. You're allowed to break 3RR in cases of blatant vandalism, but in this case I think you might have to wait until there's more input. Mark Arsten (talk) 22:49, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

I predict that we havn't heard the last from the User:Atlas-maker account. GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 00:20, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

• It looks like the consensus at talk is clearly against inclusion (8-0). Do you think that I've waited long enough, or should I give it another day before removing the contested addition. GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 18:11, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Well, if there's an 8-0 consensus I think it's safe to remove it then, yes. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:14, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

If you're not too busy, would you mind taking a look so as to confirm my assertion that consensus is clearly against inclusion? GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 18:30, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I think you're right. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:41, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Do I need to wait until it's been at least 24 hours since my last revert there to avoid a 3RR violation? GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 18:47, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Well, technically you've only made one revert in the past 24 hours, so I think you're in the clear to revert again. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:50, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Fringe/COI edits

Hi Mark, need your help here. This guy won't drop the stick. Montanabw^(talk) 23:16, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I left him a warning. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:15, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Change on Billboard

Hello Mark.

I'll correct the Billboard page again because there is obviously a mistake. It says in the main article that "It was first published on November 1, 1984", and then in the section right after, in HISTORY, it says "Billboard was founded in Cincinnati on November 1, 1894". It's only a problem with the "9" and the "8", isn't? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.96.218.147 (talk) 02:05, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, that was my mistake, I got the numbers mixed up and thought you were changing it to the wrong date. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:32, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

All good!

AfD Consensus

Hi, Mark
Judging by the precedent of closed "kept" AfD cases, I think this one is ready to be closed. I'm not sure if this is something that I could do, so just letting you know. Your call. And so I know for future, do I (non-sysop) have the authority to close an AfD case as kept? :) Ben^Yes? 03:59, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I've closed it. You could have done so yourself, actually. See WP:NAC for the letter of the law, but if it has been almost a week and there are 5-10 people supporting keeping the article and no support for deletion other than the nominator, anyone can close it. Mark Arsten (talk) 04:03, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

OK, thanks. You reply faster than some of my Facebook friends! Ben^Yes? 04:04, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

I try :) Mark Arsten (talk) 04:11, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Carlos Finlay

Can you reduce its expiration? Vandalism was due to our known friend, so by 4/5 December it will normalize. © Tbhotch^™ (en-2.5). 06:24, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

sure. Mark Arsten (talk) 21:23, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Admin assistance please

Mark, Can you please have a look at this edit and this edit as violations of WP:NPA? I am unsure what actions to take here. --LauraHale (talk) 08:56, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I've left him a reminder. It might be best to disengage for a bit at this point. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:25, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Domnina (daughter of Nero)

The article Domnina (daughter of Nero) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Too short, lacks relevance to warrant the subjects own article. Perhaps putting the article into the article for Nero would be better.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion.

I'd like to be clear, I don't think the article is useless, but perhaps in the wrong place.

Meeeeeeee39 (talk) 15:10, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but articles that have been through Afd are not eligible for PROD. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:27, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

SPI template is baffling <g>

I have made a report at SPI -- I thought I followed the directions exactly, but the case does not show up :(. Might you tell me where I erred? The case is about User:Richrakh and his myriad socks -- the latest of which quite appears to be User:Glenshiph. All eight show identical editing times, identical editing positions, at the identical same article. Many thanks. Collect (talk) 15:30, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

I don't know what you did, but you really messed it up :) I've formatted the request itself for now. It might show up on the list in a few minutes, I'll check again though. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:39, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. MIT degrees do not help on some of these much at all <g>. Collect (talk) 16:17, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Ok, looks like we took care of them! Mark Arsten (talk) 00:47, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of Agency Republic

Hey Mark,
I was baffled finding out that Agency Republic was deleted after its 3rd nomination. The article may not be in optimal shape but even an awards-only article is a valid stub if presenting facts in a neutral manner.
With the advisory board being chaired by ezine pioneer Andy Hobsbawm, the company worked for a great number of the most important brands, for the British government, the Royal Air Force etc. p.p. No, notability is not inherited, but contracts with major companies are strong indications for the agency being top-of-the-line. This is further strengthened by the awards the agency received: D&AD, One Show, The Webbies, Cannes Lions and Creative Circle are some of the most desirable design and advertising awards.
IMHO that's a quite impressive lineup and a quite strong indication that it is one of the UKs leading creative agencies. SarahStierch's "research" resulting in the company being not notable IMHO just isn't credible. Therefore, I'd like to ask you to restore the article or to submit it to a deletion review.
I'm usually more interested in political topics not businesses, yet hit a previous AfD round, and am not personally or financially or in any way involved with this agency.
Thank you, --PanchoS (talk) 23:16, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

My advice would be to create a well-sourced, NPOV draft of the article in your userspace. Then we can talk about possible restoring it. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:26, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I certainly won't spend so much time for restoring an article I'm basically not interested in. It's just that I'm quite certain that the deletion based on supposedly missing notability was incorrect. --PanchoS (talk) 01:52, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Well, there were more than just notability issues. As the nominator pointed out, the page was worded in a very promotional way. The nominator's rationale was in line with the WP:TNT essay, to some extent. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:58, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks again

For helping here.
Once upon a time, you suggested that I should spend lots more time working on protection problems. I'll return the favour; have you ever considered spending more time on Balkan problems? bobrayner (talk) 23:27, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

I hadn't given much thought to that, no. But it sounds like a good place to help out. You only have to ask once :) Mark Arsten (talk) 00:46, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Hey About Nickelodeon Israel

Hey Mark, I live in israel, and watching always Nickelodeon israel, and its on air always so why you not letting me edit the page?

You are free to continue to edit the page, but I reverted this edit because it seemed like you were adding random words into the text, like "Over" and "Bold text". Mark Arsten (talk) 01:19, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Karan Goddwani

Hi! The article on the subject was deleted by you on 3rd Dec after PROD expiry as "This article does not have any reliable source". I don't know how i missed the PROD. It never got listed on Wikipedia:WikiProject India/Article alerts i guess. There are some editors around these days who find it very easy to PROD articles but not look out for references around. Anyways... i don't expect Admins to do that job. Could you please restore the article if it at all had any worthwhile info in it? I now see that another user has created a redirect on 4th. But the subject actor does have many references. Check these samples from Times of India: It was frustrating to play a character role: Karan Goddwani, I never left comedy: Karan Goddwani where his numerous roles are enlisted. The subject would not have been deleted even if AfDed and hence i am bothering to get it restored. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 12:07, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I've undeleted the history of the page. Do as you think best. Mark Arsten (talk) 22:54, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! History had some ok-ok types version; okay enough to let it stay. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 04:11, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Userfication

Hello. I am asking for userfication, to my userpage, of deleted article named "HireJungle". Article was deleted due to poor referencing, although it had appeared in certain notable media, such as NY Times, which was acknowledged by other users. In the meantime, some new media coverage appeared both in the USA and the UK (The Telegraph), so I think the article can be improved. Thank you --BiH (talk) 14:28, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Alright, it's at User:BiH/HireJungle now. Let me know if you need anything else. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:00, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Layal Najib

Please undelete the fair use photo for Layal Najib now that it is in mainspace. Thank you, Crtew (talk) 19:38, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Ok, glad to help. Mark Arsten (talk) 22:57, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Mark i said that 21 jump street was a cool film and you deleted it!?!?

Mandela death

My change was constructive. It makes far more sense for the "Death" section to go directly after the "Retirement" section, and before the retrospective closing sections on Mandela's public image and legacy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Byan85 (talk • contribs) 00:45, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

I reverted you because you added the word "reciprocent" in a couple places. I don't believe that's actually a word, so I thought you were intentionally adding spelling errors. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:48, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

You must have me mixed me up with someone else. I didn't add any words. All I did was move the section.

Glad to hear it wasn't intentional. Carry on then. You did add it a couple times though here. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:51, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Sockpuppet.

I re-opened a sockpuppet case back in August, and then added furhter information last month, and it has not been looked at. The user(s) in question are vandalizing the same edits over and over again on pages. And information they're adding is not correct, or founded in any source online or in history. As an Admin, I'd figure you'd like to be made aware of this case. You can find it here. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 00:57, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I don't believe your case was ever listed on Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Cases/Overview Looks like you left out a template when you filed it, so it never showed up. I think I fixed it, so it should list on the main page now. I'll try to take a look at it soon. It might also help if you can add more specific details about how their edits are similar. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:52, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

You blocked me

You blocked me because of my username but wrote that it was ok to re-register. I hope this username is more acceptable. If not, let me know and allow me to change it without being blocked. Being blocked feels hurtful. Pizzatastesverygood (talk) 02:08, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Your current username is fine, no worries there. Sorry to hear that you felt hurt by the block. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:10, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Mark, please revise the ETA article

And please check the talk section, last paragraph, in which I explain last modification I did to the article but was reverted insistently, not by you before protecting the page but by another editor after that. I explained there my reasons to do such a change and others that should be done to make the article more neutral. For example the assumption of the existence of the "Basque conflict" is not neutral in my opinion because not all people consider there is such a conflict, no matter if it refers to an armed one or a political one. "The Basque conflict" is a term always used by ETA's supporters and some extremist Basque nationalist partisants which are quite close to ETA's postulates. As consequence the reference to the "Basque conflict" does not fit in the introductory part, and of course not before ETA's consideration as a terrorist group because this definition is much more widely accepted. Note that I'm not saying to add "terrorist" as an adjective, but to explictly mention ETA's consideration as a terrorist group at the second phrase in the article. The sooner the better in my opinion.

And even if we accept there is a political clash in the Basque Country, ETA is not one of its actors because it is not a political party as such but an armed organisation, so in my opinion the only valid meaning of "Basque conflict" would be an "armed conflict", which is not a neutral term to describe Spain's response to ETA's illegal and violent acts. Judges and police are not an army to begin with and the Spanish Army never intervened in the Basque country unlike the British Army in North Ireland for example . Also I forgot to mention that in other articles on English Wikipedia about similar groups like Al-Quaeda and Real IRA the consideration of those organisations as terrorist ones is also placed at first paragraph due to the importance of that fact to explain how they act and how they are perceived among the public opinion in the broad sense. So in the case of ETA the same order of precedence may be applied. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickrivier (talk • contribs) 12:42, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

I probably won't get involved in the content dispute there. I suggest you make your case on the article's talk page, or consider following the dispute resolution steps (WP:DR). Mark Arsten (talk) 18:02, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

R... Rajkumar

Hey Mark, you once protected the article, can you please protect it again. My request is in light of some worse IP editing on the article. Here are the diffs - Names of producers were changed, promotion of wannabe-reviewers, same and this had profanity. Please protect it. Soham 17:47, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Whoa! You're fast. Thanks, . Soham 17:53, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Glad to help :) Mark Arsten (talk) 18:01, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

my article was deleted

Hi Mark,

I just noticed that a wiki that I published for Darrell S. Freeman was deleted in October. Do you recall why it was deleted? How can it be republished?

Also, when the article was published, I used an email address that is no longer active. So, I can no longer access it through Wikipedia.

Draudradavis (talk) 17:54, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

You can see the reasons for the deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Darrell S. Freeman. Let me know if you have any questions. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:04, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Mark,

I'm surprised that the article was accepted and now deleted. Does this happen often? Do you think that it could be rewritten for republishing? I guess one could argue about someone's notability.

Draudradavis (talk) 18:16, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

If you would like the article to be restored, the first step is to create a well sourced (see WP:RS & WP:V) neutral (see WP:NPOV) draft of the article in your userspace (see WP:USERSPACEDRAFT). Once you have that done, let me know and we can work from there. Mark Arsten (talk) 05:16, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Mark,

I will rework the article and resubmit it. I took a look at the Wikipedia standards that you included. Are you able to provide me a few examples of articles that you think are good (e.g., meet the neutrality and well-sourced standards). This will help me rewrite.

Draudradavis (talk) 15:32, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

The articles in the Did you know section of the main page are often a good place to find decent new articles. You might look at a few of the bolded entries there for reference. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:40, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Challenge Deletion - Peter Pakeman

Hello Mark, I was surprised to see that our discussion was seemingly closed. The subject of the article (InPerpetuity) responded to your question about the name and location of the reference file, after which, a colleague of yours suggested that you contact an admin from the soccer wikiproject. InPerpetuity then commented on the fact that it is unlikely the information (i.e., games played by CSL players) exist and suggested that if Wiki makes this requirement, then no player can claim to have played in the CSL. To me, this would seem strangely absurd having a legitimate league without recognizing its players.Xave2000 (talk) 01:05, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Well, the way I perceive the conversation was that I told you one thing I would need to see to restore the page (a reliable source indicating that he had played in a fully professional league) and you (or your friend) told me you could not provide that. So I'm not willing to restore it at this point. If you find my approach unfair, you are free to appeal my decision at the deletion review page. See WP:DRV for the procedure there. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 05:21, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

I don't perceive this issue to be a matter of fairness, but rather one about the inconsistency of how Wiki's standard is being applied (i.e., it's either a requirement or it's not)-- meaning that for any Wiki article where any soccer player indicates that they played in the 1987 CSL season, for example, a reference proving that the player actually played a game is required. I accept you advise and will consider submitting an appeal; however before I do, I hope that you can address the other notability criteria (Amateur sports) which I feel the subject also meets. As explained in my initial correspondence, in his senior year, the subject received an individual award at the national level, by being selected to play at the ISAA Senior Soccer Bowl Classic, a forum where top college soccer players could compete in an all-star game and where professional soccer scouts could come to see America's best players. Both the NCCA and the ISAA also have longstanding roots in sports. However, unlike the NCAA, which has its roots in rowing and football, the ISSA, which was founded in 1926, was created for and supported soccer, only. The first NCCA, All-American award/selection occurred in 1973, a year after the first ISAA the Senior Soccer Bowl Classic game was played. While the NCAA All-American award may be more widely recognized, individuals selected to play in the ISAA the Senior Soccer Bowl Classic were also being recognized at the national level. Please note the source of all of the above information comes from Wiki. Please and thank you.Xave2000 (talk) 17:43, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

My feeling is that playing in the senior bowl probably isn't enough to justify an article. You could raise that at deletion review though. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:14, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

OK. Thanks.Xave2000 (talk) 15:51, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

==Deletion review for Page name==

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Page name. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.

FanforClarl socks

Hey MA, was curious what the preference is for how to treat these FanforClarl / HoshiNoKaabii2000 socks. I've been re-opening SPIs for WangsDaringsFun because the recent behavior from these puppets are all consistent with WangsDaringsFun, even though they can all be traced back to FanforClarl. When the a-hole starts up again, should I re-open the WangsDaringsFun SPI, or is it preferred that I re-open FanforClarl? Or HoshiNoKaabii2000? Just trying to make things as easy as possible for everybody involved, including casual editors who might not know the history. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:45, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, I think technically the best thing to do would be to open it under FanforCarl and just note in your comments that it lines up closely with the Wangsdaring archives. I could be mistaken, but I think that's the best way to go about it. Mark Arsten (talk) 05:47, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Amaravathiarun and his sock drawer

I noticed you archived the most recent case. What I wondered is whether that case means that, procedurally, the two cases should be combined and all the socks of Sanka... should now be flagged as socks of Amaravathiarun for future reference. I cannot help but wonder why this editor is creating so many sockpuppets. I have a suspicion that it is lack of facility with English. Fiddle Faddle 11:03, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the note. I merged the content of one archive to the other. Not sure that we need to bother re-tagging all the socks, a note on the SPI should suffice. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:33, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Works for me :) I am never sure of the procedures for things like this at SPI so I ask instead of assuming. :) Fiddle Faddle 16:47, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

RevDel

If you have a moment, we could use another RevDel at Andrew Schlafly for this edit [7]. Thank you. - MrX 21:30, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Ok, done. Do you use IRC? There's a great channel there specifically for requesting revdeletion. Mark Arsten (talk) 21:57, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I haven't used IRC regularly for 20 years. I used to practically live on it. Perhaps I should consider getting on it again though to help with situations like this.- MrX 22:48, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, there are a few good Wikipedia channels, and some not-so-good ones. Mark Arsten (talk) 04:03, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Barnstar for you!

		The Admin's Barnstar
		If I had a dollar for every time I edit-conflicted you at RFPP, I would be a rich man haha. Thanks for all the good work you do. :-) Thingg⊕⊗ 19:41, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar, and thank you for helping out there, as well! Mark Arsten (talk) 19:45, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

SafeMinds Wiki deletion reinstatement

Mr Arsten --

It has come to my attention that you have deleted SafeMinds Wiki page due to insufficient validation or activity.

I would like to raise the fact that SafeMinds participated as an accredited NGO under the UNEP during the recently completed mercury treaty negotiations. http://www.unep.org/hazardoussubstances/Mercury/Negotiations/tabid/3320/Default.aspx

During the past three years SafeMinds has submitted testimony, participated in the negotiating sessions, and even had news stories filed regarding their participation by the

Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/19/treaty-on-mercury-would-not-affect-vaccines-with-t/ http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/dec/17/us-doctors-fight-un-ban-on-preservative-in-vaccine/

National Public Radio http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/12/17/167280941/experts-argue-against-proposed-ban-on-vaccine-preservative

We are a participant and member of the steering committee of the Global Autism Collaboration http://www.globalautismcollaboration.com/

I believe these actions and articles fulfill any obligation for validating the work of this organization. Please respond at your earliest and forward this information as needed.

I request a response on the re-establishment of the page as well as the ability to edit the SafeMinds wiki site.

Thanks...

Eric Uram Executive Director SafeMinds

SafeMindsEU (talk) 00:05, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but we need to see significant media or academic coverage to justify having an article. The Washington Times articles and the NPR piece look like brief mentions. It might make sense to mention your group in an article about Autism activism or a similar topic though. You should probably not add it yourself though, per our WP:COI rules. You can suggest things on the talk pages of articles though. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:12, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Mr Arsten --

Please see the article in Autism File Magazine http://www.pageturnpro.com/Autism-Media-Channel/53827-AF52_Autism-File_OctoberNovember/index.html#40

and the accompanying video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UAVBRg8wQ8&feature=youtu.be

SafeMindsEU (talk) 02:11, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I'm not sure that Autism File counts as a "reliable source" per our definition of the term. I could check in more detail though if you think it is. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:10, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm new to all of this... apparently I needed to create another account because the first one established was inconsistent with Wiki policies... so I will ask you to investigate further. I find the publisher unbiased and providing information to a large community of parents raising children afflicted with autism. I'm not sure how an arbitrary call that one outlet is biased while another is not can be made. Other materials from additional outlets can be supplied if needed. Eric Uram (talk) 03:53, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Curious--the post by SafemindsEU was signed "Eric Uram", which is the name of the user who posted the second comment as well. Looks like we have some use of multiple accounts on our hands. Jinkinson talk to me 03:57, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

As indicated this was a change to get compliant after being blocked due to a username violation. Eric Uram (talk) 04:38, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes, that's fine then. I'll look into the matter of Autism File. Mark Arsten (talk) 04:42, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but it does not appear to meet our definition of a reliable source (WP:RS). Mark Arsten (talk) 16:02, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

DEC 2013

Thanks for protecting Greg Hardy I was getting pretty sick of the vandalism... it was a stupid joke to begin with.

CensoredBiscuit (talk) 04:25, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Glad to help :) Mark Arsten (talk) 04:45, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Hey if the dude is pompous enough to announce he is from Hogwarts on National TV. It should be mentioned Spudwoot (talk) 16:52, 9 December 2013 (UTC) http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2013/12/8/5190414/greg-hardy-kraken-hogwarts

Findlay First Edition

Hi Mark,

I noticed the article about Findlay First Edition Show Choir was recently deleted. Do you mind providing insight as to why this took place? I haven't viewed the article in a month or so. I'm just curious. Thanks!

The rationale for deletion was "I suspect this article fails our strict Verifiability criteria. A mere "Findlay+First+Edition"&tbm=nws&tbs=ar:1 six Google News Archive hits. All are Ohio news outlets: mere local coverage. I suspect that none contain significant coverage. And, in general, the types of outlets which are likely to write about Findlay First Edition are low-circulation outlets which may not pass WP:RS.". It can be restored if you like, per the WP:PROD rules. There is a chance it would be re-deleted after restoration, but you can give it a shot if you want. Mark Arsten (talk) 04:49, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi Mark,

Thank you for your reply. I have been in the process of revamping it to meet those standards. Would you mind restoring it and I can get it up to Wiki standards? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Showchoirnerd (talk • contribs) 17:46, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I've undeleted it. You might want to go ahead and add some wikilinks to the article from other articles now. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:52, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Bleach (anime) shit

That IP editor came back and is basically just trolling me now. Can you reblock the range?—Ryulong (琉竜) 07:26, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, I'm not 100% sure if that comment is enough to reblock, sorry. Might want to get a second opinion from another admin. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:57, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

"I win" is pretty much trolling.—Ryulong (琉竜) 16:55, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

I think I'll hold off on blocking for now, but feel free to ask another admin. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:25, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

All I know is most admins are wary of blocking more than one IP at a time.—Ryulong (琉竜) 17:31, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

He's stalking me now and on a new range it seems.—Ryulong (琉竜) 18:14, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I think that's over the line. I've rangeblocked 166.147.112.0/20 for three days. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:20, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Did he really contact you below as well?—Ryulong (琉竜) 18:24, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, looks like he didn't take my advice though. Let me know if the range I blocked was too narrow and I'll take another look. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:25, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Well only time will tell. None of the geolocator or whois services seem to be showing what the range is outside of some really really wide range that the ISP covers entirely.—Ryulong (琉竜) 18:28, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

The IP left a comment on someone else's user talk and the user won't let me remove it.—Ryulong (琉竜) 18:37, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Greg Hardy needs modification.

Greg Hardy of the Panthers is currently claiming his college is Hogwarts. http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2013/12/8/5190414/greg-hardy-kraken-hogwarts. Can we add that somewhere, possibly listing that he did graduate work at Hogwarts while getting his undergrad at old miss Spudwoot (talk) 16:48, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but we don't like to add jokes to articles here. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:19, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

BLEACH

What is ur opinion about the hatnote there? i think we could do without the anime link in the hatnote. Please respond on ur talk page. thanks 166.147.120.151 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:51, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

I have no opinion on the matter. Also, please try to be respectful to other contributors and avoid edit warring. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:54, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Ryulong and edit warring

This issue is too large for one admin to deal with, please find another venue. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:07, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Ryulong has again been edit warring. One breaking 3RR at Knockout (violent game) and the second over the inclusion of a source for the colors of University of Miami. For the Knockout game, he removed a bunch of material.[8] Reverted the re-insertion.[9] Reverted another editor on a different aspect.[10] Altered the editor's work again sparking more disputes.[11] The editor moves the section and Ryulong moves it back.[12] For the Miami matter he's at 3RR.[13][14][15] Three different editors reverted him, and I just reverted Ryulong. 3RR is not a hard rule, but his final revert to take him to the edge of 3RR followed " No one's right to revert anything anywhere. That's all I've learned in the last few weeks. That's why I've gotten blocked twice in the past month for edit warring. It is not necessary to source a color being displayed on an article just because that color happens to be the one mentioned in a reliable source. I'm not discussing this further." at User_talk:Ryulong#Edit_warring_over_the_inclusion_of_a_source.3F. Even I agree that their arguments to source the school's colors are proper, even if it is the exact color, it just makes the Good Article better and one step closer to Featured. This is two instances of edit warring within 2 days of the last block for edit warring. Given that is 3RR and one is beyond and this is a dispute with multiple editors on each, I think as the last admin, you should take a look into this. I'm not filing an ANI or report over this, I don't have the time and it will make drama because the assumption will be that Ryulong is edit warring with me. Aside from restoring the clearly contested and consensus from the Miami issue, I'm just an observer. Though the constant edit warring is problematic. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 18:52, 9 December 2013 (UTC) I have not broken 3RR anywhere. I have self reverted at Knockout (violent game) and one of my reverts at University of Miami was to reverting vandalism that Mark Arsten is entirely aware of because I have mentioned it to him in a section higher above on this very fucking page. I am tired of you policing me ChrisGualtieri and you have most definitely decided to overstep the bounds on which we have so very much attempted to reconcile our editorial differences. It is entirely too tiring to have to deal with shit time and time again when I try to follow every single god damn letter of the law on this website and other editors refuse to give me the same courtesy.—Ryulong (琉竜) 19:02, 9 December 2013 (UTC) You are still over 3RR and your revert after I bring this here and your comments about it, including at the Miami page says as much. You know better to edit war, you said you would not discuss it further and than you reverted again. Now after this post you made a discussion and I pointed out it was already discussed on your talk page and it was you, Ryulong, who dismissed the concerns of the editors. Intention to edit war right to the brink is still edit warring and you know better by now. You've known this for a long time. You should be on 1RR - I am just an observer, but you seem to go as far as you can on this each and every time. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 19:06, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Template:WW2InfoBox protection

I am not sure why it was declined with 15 reverts...but there still at it. Guess will just have to bring the editors to 3rvv... was hoping not to have anyone banned but we have no choice at this point. -- Moxy (talk) 00:41, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Will respond at RFPP. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:46, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Backstory

The only way I can think to verify would be to have a ststement from Keenan, or Zach. I was that confidence man, I can assure you of the events that transpired that night. Keenan was living in the WesCo 3 Dorms and had chipped in with 4 others including Zach. I can provide many more details, if anything this is the kind of backstory bands hope for. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.172.39.136 (talk) 01:29, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but unless it was documented in media coverage we can't include it in the article. Mark Arsten (talk) 04:10, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Please Help to publish my mom´s Info at Logan´s Ohio Notable Resident´s

This is the message I need to publish: (The one you eliminated)

Margee Blair (Mary Martinez) 1972 Logan High School Graduate / 1976 Ohio University Graduate in Modern Language. Presently Associate Professor - English Department at Universidad de Oriente, Barcelona, Venezuela, since 1979 to the present date.

The citation to a reliable source that you need for the re-adding would be the following one:

This information was in a Logan Daily News article that my grandmother kept. I received a reward of Logan Residents chosen to the Logan Hall of Fame. My friend Jim Kalklosch -also a Logan Resident- received my Honorable Award in my name as I live in Venezuela.

Please publish that Write my an e-mail — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcmb731 (talk • contribs) 01:09, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but people can only be listed as notable residents if they have a Wikipedia article written about them (that meets our notability guidelines: WP:GNG). Mark Arsten (talk) 04:08, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Thankyou, thankyou

Editor returned with same edit using the name of User:Frischvon this time. Same edit with same info.

Just FYI, he's using a cut and paste from a website about Garcia's art. Same words. Should I relist the SPI? Regards, --Manway 04:48, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, Mark. Appreciate the quick response. All best. --Manway 04:58, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Glad to help. Mark Arsten (talk) 06:24, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

You deleted Grady Hall

I just noticed Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Grady_Hall when you removed a link to that article from an Outer Limit's episode. He was just nominated for a Grammy Award [16] for a music video which was listed in a major newspaper [17] as one of the best music videos of 2013, which has already won the 2013 MTV Video Music Award for Best Visual Effects. His official website list other things about him [18] such as being on Rolling Stone magazine's "Hot List", etc. Anyway, can you restore the article and reopen the AFD, so I can add information about him? The only two people that noticed and participated didn't bother doing even a quick Google search of the guy apparently. Dream Focus 05:15, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Ok, you can make your case at the Afd now. Mark Arsten (talk) 06:29, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Gauhar Khan

It is logical to fully protect a specific page. But the page is fully protected with an unreliable source to prove her DOB. Numerous edit requests had been requested since yesterday but all are stable. There are chaos about the public figure age in the media. Just Google, Gauhar Khan you might get an idea, i request you please try to visit the page. --- Smauritius ^{diR mWa!!} 14:39, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	I thereby award you with this Admin's Barnstar for your continued work at the Requests for page protection noticeboard. Your work helps to avoid/clean-out backlogs at the page. Cheers, Armbrust The Homunculus 22:30, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome, and thanks for your help too. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:14, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Request

Hi Mark, could you please have a look at this edit? I think it could be considered offensive, but I'd like another opinion. Thanks. - ^theWOLFchild 00:37, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, that is considered offensive, at least in the US it is more or less a racial slur. The IP hasn't edited in a couple days, so I'd just leave a warning for now and take action if he keeps it up. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:59, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Done. I left a warning and removed the slur. - ^theWOLFchild 01:13, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2000 Sports Network Cup

What will happen if no one else comments on this anymore? --SportsMaster (talk) 03:39, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately participation at Afd is pretty low at times so this type of thing keeps happening. If no one else comments, it will probably be deleted in another week or two. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:44, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Restore File:Ian Scott Quiver 1974.jpg

Why was this deleted as orphaned, when it wasn't orphaned and is still being discussed at WP:NFCR? Please restore. - hahnchen

Yeah, what happened was there were four files from the same page that were tagged as orphans and remained tagged for more than a week. I deleted all the ones that were tagged for more than a week, and then noticed that four from that page weren't orphans. I went and undeleted three of them but must have forgot to do the fourth. It's undeleted now. Mark Arsten (talk) 04:11, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

sockpuppet

Please block Returnofmainmainer13. He is a sockpuppet of Mainmainer13, who you already blocked for repeated vandalism. Thank you. 64.185.131.107 (talk) 04:39, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Ok, got him. Thanks for the heads up. Mark Arsten (talk) 04:41, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Durance and The Shab-al-Hiri Roach

You were the admin responsible for deleting both these non-notable games. Mind moving or copying them into my sandbox please? Both were designed by Jason Morningstar who is notable (designer of Fiasco and Grey Ranks - and the only person to be a named winner of the Diana Jones award twice). I'd therefore like to see if either article has something I can use to pull together the whole article (as non-notable but published games each is going to get a paragraph but I've never played either). Neonchameleon (talk) 12:46, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Shab-al-Hiri Roach was deleted via WP:PROD, so it can be directly undeleted if you want, or I could move it to your userspace. Durance has not been deleted, did you mean a different article? Mark Arsten (talk) 16:26, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

I meant Durance (role-playing game), which was deleted with a prod at the same time as the Shab-al-Hiri Roach. I should have linked the articles, sorry. I can't quite establish notability for either on their own, so don't think they should be undeleted - less notable works by a notable designer. And thanks. Neonchameleon (talk) 02:41, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Article protection

Hi, could you look at the article Pramukh Swami Maharaj and see if it warrants temporary protection? A user appears to be vandalizing it repeatedly. Some of the accounts have been blocked by User:Materialscientist for multiple issues but the user continues to evade the blocks. If you see the need for temporary protection, could you revert the ShantilalalSodom's changes? Anastomoses (talk) 16:34, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Confirmed vs. suspected socks

Hi, after you closed Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Wiki_brah I went to the AfD pages where the now-banned accounts had been participating to put up some {{CSP}} tags. I realized, however, that though all three were banned only 1 was marked confirmed (I presume that means a CheckUser match). The CSP template does, however, seem to be only for confirmed socks -- without a corresponding {{SSP}} for those that are suspected. WP:Speedy keep seems to allow for kicking out an AfD nominated by someone who's been banned, but what about the suspected socks' activity when not the nominator?

In other words, can CSP be used regarding banned suspected socks? If not, is there an alternative best practice?

Thanks very much.

--— Rhododendrites ^talk |  16:57, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) If they're blocked as socks, feel free to revert their edits (if disruptive or otherwise unwanted) or close their nominations (as bad-faith). The suspected sock versus confirmed sock distinction is largely immaterial—sockpuppets are only blocked when they can be confirmed beyond any reasonable doubt anyway. I generally only use the suspected sock template when the account is obviously a sock of some troll, but which of the long-term nuisances it is a sock of is unknown. Cheers! Reaper Eternal (talk) 17:06, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the input, Reaper, I'll keep that in mind. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:07, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Got it. Ok, thanks for the clarification. --— Rhododendrites ^talk |  20:43, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Congratulations

		100000 Edits
		Congratulations on reaching 100000 edits. You have achieved a milestone that very few editors have been able to accomplish. The Wikipedia Community thanks you for your continuing efforts. Keep up the good work!

If you like you can add this userbox to your collection.

This user has been awarded with the 100000 Edits award.

```Buster Seven Talk 19:12, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Oh wow, I made it! Thanks for the award :) Mark Arsten (talk) 19:20, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

You made it, congratulations to a milestone. How many of these were page protections? - Thank you, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:00, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

About 3000 of them, if you can believe that! Mark Arsten (talk) 22:05, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Congratulations administrator. This is a huge milestone. I pray I'm able to achieve this one day. versace1608 (talk) 22:16, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. WP:Huggle makes it pretty easy to do thousands of edits a month. But in the end, how many edits you have doesn't determine how much good you have done (although in some cases, the two correlate closely). Mark Arsten (talk) 00:23, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Congrats on getting the odometer to turn over. Me, I don't wanna know how many of my edits are just going back and correcting something I had just posted. Binksternet (talk) 10:08, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

It would be pretty interesting to see all my edits sorted by edit summary. Probably a lot of those little edits over time. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:32, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Bad Company

I see you've just protected the Bad Company article, but you've (inadvertently) restored and protected the vandalised version, which inexplicably includes a portion of the history of AC/DC, a completely unrelated band. Please fix, thanks. Bretonbanquet (talk) 21:49, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Got it. It's not full protected though, just semi. Mark Arsten (talk) 21:55, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Ah, I didn't realise that! Cool, thanks for sorting it. Bretonbanquet (talk) 22:03, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

World Boxing Foundation

I marked World Boxing Foundation with the appropriate template for Speedy deletion of a previously deleted page. Just FYI Palmtree5551 (talk) 00:33, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Ok, got it. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:27, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Source from wall street journal

Here is the source

http://allthingsd.com/20131125/eric-schmidts-easy-four-step-guide-to-switch-from-iphone-to-android/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.211.88.35 (talk) 01:25, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Ok, but sources need to be cited in the article when you add information, see WP:CITE for details. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:28, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Oragami Truth Squad

I lay in wait... preparing my next move... working to evade your attempts at blocking me. Rest assured, soon the truth will be told about origami. Soon, the world will know it is stupid. You may be able to delay the inevitable, but you can never stop it. Truth always wins out in the end. And I will bring that truth to the masses. You can semi-protect the page. You can fully protect the page. You can block an IP address. You can block whole ranges of IP addresses. You will not stop the truth from being told. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.26.81.166 (talk) 04:53, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Let me guess: you do not forgive and you do not forget? Mark Arsten (talk) 04:54, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Blind reverting

So, I see you did this beauty. "All sockpuppets are vandals" are they? What's the matter, haven't you got rollback? Or are you too proud to use it on yourself? 94.196.114.191 (talk) 10:43, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Another Evlekis-sock. You know the drill, Mark. :-) bobrayner (talk) 11:25, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

I can appreciate the humor though, reminds me of this classic. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:07, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Origami protection

Hello, Mark. I see you have changed your 1 week's protection on Origami to indefinite. I had wondered whether a week would be enough, and was keeping a watch on it, with a view to increasing it if the problem came back, but I see you have changed it to indef without waiting to see whether it does. Purely as a matter of interest, what made you change your mind? JamesBWatson (talk) 11:59, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

I noticed that an IP was going around talking about how he was going to vandalize it when protection expired, so I thought that one week probably wouldn't be enough. My thinking was that I'd change it to indef for now and then reevaluate in a few weeks if the IP loses interest. I'm open to a second opinion though. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:04, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Sandra Bullock

Could you please have a look into what is going on here → Sandra Bullock & Talk:Sandra Bullock. Thanks. --IIIraute (talk) 21:45, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

I haven't gotten to look into it in too much detail. Is there something specific you would like me to weigh in on? Mark Arsten (talk) 22:15, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes, if possible, please take the time to read the section → Bullock & Ramsauer → [19], the removal of WP:RS content, fake admin claims, etc. --IIIraute (talk) 22:26, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

So fake admin claims ([20] & [21]) about Hullaballoo Wolfowitz‎‎, to justify WP:OWN and the reverts of WP:RS content - that's acceptable? Thanks for the trouble! --IIIraute (talk) 17:42, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I got distracted and never looked into this. You're right though, HW is not an admin. I'll comment there. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:44, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Also, RS content can be removed if there is a consensus to do so, it depends on why they're removing it. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:46, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

But there was no consensus. Apart from one comment, the two reverting editors did not even go to the bother of using the talk page. However, on the talk page there also was support for the inclusion of the content. --IIIraute (talk) 18:07, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, perhaps you could have an WP:RFC on the article's talk page? Mark Arsten (talk) 18:09, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Gareth Griffith-Jones is not telling the truth - I did make him aware of his false claims - yet he did another revert, making the same claim. I did notify him on his talk page, as well as on Talk:Sandra Bullock → [22] & [23] but he did not even care to bother.

Anyway, I guess WP:RFC is not a bad idea. Thanks for your time & help. --IIIraute (talk) 18:37, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Returning Vandal

The user which recently went on a spree of such pages as Ninja Gaiden (Game Gear video game), The Flash (video game) and Zero Wing is back. User is currently using the IPs 173.55.155.9 and 156.3.163.99. User has been introducing factual misinformation in defiance of actual sources; in one article, Bases Loaded '96: Double Header, the user keeps removing references and claims the game was never released for Sega Saturn outside of Japan (its page image is the American Sega Saturn cover).

User's activities match the blocked user Sotosbros, who was investigated for Sock-puppeteering here and blocked. In fact, the latter of the two IPs I mentioned is one of the IPs in the report.

What should I do about this user? Should I open up a second sock-puppeteering investigation on this one? No matter how many times I try to reason with this user, they just keep doing what they've been doing. Crboyer (talk) 01:40, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I've blocked those two IPs for now. Protecting the page might be a good idea too. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:18, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

cited for vandalism

Hi. I don't know how to prove it, but I think our IP addresses are shared/redistributed by everyone in the school. I hope the erroneous actions of a few doesn't hurt everyone else. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.112.127.108 (talk) 02:07, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately, that is more-or-less what happens. If a group of people are editing via the same IP and only one is vandalizing, editing from that IP will probably be blocked, preventing them all from editing while logged out. You can avoid this though if you register an account. That way you'll be able to keep editing if your school's IP is blocked. Let me know if you have any questions, Mark Arsten (talk) 02:20, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Renee Orta Salgado.jpg

Hi Mark, Could you undelete File:Renee Orta Salgado.jpg now that there is an article in mainspace for the fair use. Thank you for all your work! Crtew (talk) 13:37, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Ok, done. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:26, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of Affiliate_Window page

Hi Mark, you deleted this page: Affiliate_Window back in 2012 and I think circumstances have changed enough that this is now a notable company with a multitude of press mentions and a large social media presence. Nickma14 (talk) 15:26, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately, social media presence and mentions in the press are not enough to prove a company's notability. See WP:CORP for our standards for articles on companies. Let me know if you have any more questions, Mark Arsten (talk) 16:28, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Please could I get the contents of the deleted page copied over to my User page if possible? Thanks. Nickma14 (talk) 16:45, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Actually, I just noticed that it was deleted via WP:PROD, so it can be restored to main page instead of your userspace, if you'd prefer. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:05, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes please Mark that'd be fantastic. Thanks for your help. Nickma14 (talk) 20:58, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Bot adding

I was wondering. Do you know if there is a bot on Wikipedia that can add numbers in columns for a total? For example, I am wondering if it could add the wins and losses in this article List of Iowa State Cyclones men's basketball seasons.--SportsMaster (talk) 16:48, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, not that I know of, but maybe try asking at the village pump? Mark Arsten (talk) 17:09, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

You've got mail!

Hello, Mark Arsten. Please check your email; you've got mail!
Message added 17:09, 13 December 2013 (UTC). It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

— MusikAnimal <sup>talk</sup> 17:09, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Categories

Hey, Mark,
I noticed that you have done work with deleting categories so I'm hoping you could answer a question. Category:Cody Simpson was deleted twice because it was created by a blocked editor. But most musicians have their own category and this one has enough associated singles, albums and tours to validate having his own category. But, for some reason, I can't create a category so I'm not sure if this deletion involved salting this page or what. Can you fix this? Liz <sup>Read! Talk!</sup> 20:23, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes, it was salted by JamesBWatson (talk · contribs). He'll probably be willing to unsalt if you ask him about it. Mark Arsten (talk) 20:25, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Mark

Thanks for all your help today Mark! I appreciate your quick responses to the vandals I've reported and I hope you continue to keep up the good work. Jns4eva (talk) 20:31, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome, and thank you for reporting them! Mark Arsten (talk) 20:32, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Duck test?

Have you ever seen anybody go to an FAC after just 12 edits? Do you have any advice for me, since I think it is pretty safe to assume this is yet another sock-troll. GabeMc <sup>(talk|contribs)</sup> 20:40, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, that is odd. I'd keep an eye on them, just in case. Mark Arsten (talk) 21:29, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Well

Perhaps I haven't been as consistent as I should have been in enforcing NPA violations in the past, but I will endeavor to do so from now on. Happy Holidays. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:31, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Once you admitted I have been treated unfairly. A decent person who sees that another person is being treated unfairly helps that unfairly treated person to make it right. The only way to silence me is to treat me fairly. 69.181.40.174 (talk) 22:31, 13 December 2013 (UTC) Resentment is like drinking poison and then hoping it will kill your enemies - Nelson Mandela. Mark is helping you by trying to assist you to move on from a place where your feelings are dominated by resentment, to other places where you would (presumably) not have such problems. And thus be much happier. Just like Mr Mandela, who was so often very visibly happy. For example when he met the Spice Girls, which he said was the greatest day of his life. Perhaps you should go and see Viva Forever (musical) and it might inspire you in a similar way. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:54, 13 December 2013 (UTC) Sorry, but as I've said before, using Wikipedia to attack people isn't allowed, even if you feel they deserve the insults. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:16, 13 December 2013 (UTC) I'd rather you don't use my real name. I am not using Wikipedia to attack people. I am using Wikipedia to make it right for me, and for some others in my situation, and hopefully to prevent something that was done to me being done to another person. I have been treated unfairly, to say the least. A person who is/was being treated unfairly should be helped. Period. What I am concerned about is that many Wikipedians put Wikipedia's values in front of human values, and this is just wrong. One of the simplest things Wikipedia could start with is letting me and for others like me go, and I emailed you what it means for me. I'd like to explain to you what I meant, when I said " many Wikipedians put Wikipedia's values in front of human values". Here's an example: You say:"using Wikipedia to attack people isn't allowed". Let's see Is this a personal attack? You saw it, and said nothing. You knew I had no ability to respond, and you said nothing. Of course now tarc has admitted he harassed me for years. So I guess there are at least some users who are allowed to use Wikipedia to make absolutely unprovoked personal attacks, to kick someone who is down. 69.181.40.174 (talk) 00:56, 14 December 2013 (UTC) I believe Tarc (talk · contribs) has apologized to you for the comments he made in the past, so I'm not sure why you're still bringing it up? It seems like he wants to bury the hatchet, so maybe you should follow his example? Mark Arsten (talk) 01:01, 14 December 2013 (UTC) Mark, it is not about Tarc. I've no problems with tarc. It is about you. You saw that PA back then and said nothing, you allowed it to stay. If you removed it back then maybe you would have had moral rights to tell me about "insulting" others, but you have not. Apologize? Well, I have no problem with apologizing if I wasn't right, if I did something wrong. You know that don't you? Remember my very first email to you, when we still were working on articles together. I wrote to you to apologize. Here's another example of me admitting I was wrong. There are more. But I am afraid now I have nothing to apologize for. @Demiurge1000, I see you'd like to talk to me. Okay, let's talk, I'd like to talk to you too. For example I'd like to understand how somebody who used to be a teacher could be ... well as you are.But before we talk could you please repeat after me: "I was the first one to support your community ban. I did it while you were blocked, and your talk page access was removed. I knew you have no means to defend yourself. I used the content of your hacked emails that I got directly from the hacker or the hacker accomplice as the rational for my support vote." and sign this statement, and please remember demiurge1000, you're an anonymous user, and I am a named person.69.181.40.174 (talk) 01:25, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Cloud_Nineteen

I was also tempted, but I think you erred in blocking in that it is the individual's nom du voyage rather than the name of a group. cheers, Dlohcierekim 00:53, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, yes, I think you're right. Thanks for the note. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:57, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

No problem. Happens to the best of us. Dlohcierekim 01:10, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of HC of Mozambique in London

I refer you to below which I posted on Stuartyeates talk page.

Though I am aware that a deletion discussion was held on this issue I was unable to contribute due to both being busy with other things at that point and an unfamiliarity with wikipedia's deletion process.

Needless to say I disagree with the decision; quite why Mozambique has been singled out for deletion, as compared to the literally hundreds of other embassy pages, I do not know. As I have made clear - either delete the lot or keep them.

Sdrawkcab (talk) 11:58, 14 December 2013 (UTC)sdrawkcab

Hi Stuartyeates,

I see that you deleted my page for the High Commission of Mozambique. I have restored it for now - if you would like to delete it again feel free but please could you do the following first:

• Delete everything other single 'Embassy of XX in London' page. Here's a handy link to get you started: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Diplomatic_missions_in_the_United_Kingdom
• Then get to work on all the embassies in Canada: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Diplomatic_missions_in_Ottawa
• There's quite a few in Russia you'll need to get working on also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_diplomatic_missions_in_Russia
• Oh, almost forgot, there's the United States also to do: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Diplomatic_missions_in_the_United_States

When you've finished with that lot let me know and I'll go ahead and delete the Mozambique page.

Sdrawkcab (talk) 20:03, 13 December 2013 (UTC)sdrawkcab

Sorry, but the page in question has to stand or fail on its own merits, the existence of other pages never mean that we have to keep a page on a similar topic. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:51, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Christopher Guarin

Could you undelete Christopher Guarin.jpg now that the article is published in mainspace and the photo is no longer an orphan. Thanks much, Crtew (talk) 22:22, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your edit on Christopher Guarin! Crtew (talk) 17:39, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Alberto López Bello

And could you also undelete Bello,_Alberto.jpg. Thank you for doing these! We appreciate your efforts! Crtew (talk) 05:16, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your assistance with these photographs of journalists. Crtew (talk) 18:03, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Paul Hume

Hi Mark,

I have a good source for Paul Hume (game designer), which you deleted after closing the AFD. Do you have any objections to userfication so that I can do some work on it? BOZ (talk) 05:18, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

It takes two (or more) to tango

Okay, Mark, let's say that I am indeed involved in an edit war. Let's say I have come close to violating the 3-revert rule. There is someone who has in fact violated the 3-revert rule, someone who is desperately clinging to the sanitized version of the facts about a very dirty man. How come they don't get a stern, canned warning, huh? Detroit Joseph (talk) 17:16, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

To be honest, I saw that your edits were oversighted while his weren't so I assumed that your edits (which I can't see) were seriously problematic in some way. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:46, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Almost everything "Truth to the Fourth Power" wrote can be backed up with stuff that has been published in Crain's Detroit Business. And what can't be backed up through there, I have verified through the grapevine (I won't insist on restoring the latter). Fotouhi's corrupt (as Crain's has reported) but he doesn't seem to be racist (which was alleged when he fired a black man, but he fired plenty of white people in his quest to get funds for a bigger office for himself). Detroit Joseph (talk) 23:53, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I'll try to look into it later. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:59, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Protection

Please Semi Protect my user page (WIN7BOOT 01:44, 16 December 2013 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by WIN7BOOT (talk • contribs)

Ok, done. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:31, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Top icon

Hello Mark Arsten,
I have noticed you have worked in Template:Top icon and/or Template:Featured article. But that is not working in our non-wikimedia Wiki. The image icon is not appearing. Do we need to create any environment for it? We have imported the templates needed for it. Top Icon template link, Featured article template link Tito☸Dutta 03:10, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm afraid I can't help with this. I don't understand all the technical stuff with the templates, sorry! Mark Arsten (talk) 03:14, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Tito Dutta: Did you import the css classes from MediaWiki:Common.css into your wiki's Common.css file? — ΛΧΣ<sup>21</sup> 03:58, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

• Hello @Hahc 21:, yes I have imported (and now re-imported). --Tito☸Dutta 04:34, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/What.

File:Bo Burnham What. Album Cover.jpg must go as well, I guess. - Altenmann >t 06:56, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately we have to wait another week now to delete that one... Mark Arsten (talk) 07:21, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug

Hello again, Mark. I was wondering if you wouldn't mind temporarily semi-protecting The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug. There are a lot IPS removing sourced content and adding excessive plot details to the article.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 14:10, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Inactive SPI

Hi, wonder if you could help me figure out why Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Therealthings hasn't had any clerk/admin action since I opened it on December 1. Did I file it improperly? Thx. — Brianhe (talk) 16:03, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

As it stands, I'm not sure it's clear enough sockpuppetry to block without checkuser results (i.e. the WP:DUCK test), which is why I haven't taken action there. If you want checkuser attention, you could change {{SPI case status|}} to {{SPI case status|request}}, that might get some attention. Let me know if you have any more questions. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:10, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

User:DMB112

I'm just going to go to you directly because I know you're going to take care of it eventually. I have reported DMB112 for edit warring (with me sadly) and he keeps restoring his preferred version across multiple pages despite the fact I have discovered that there is a standing consensus against his proposal. I honestly do not expect not to be blocked for this but something needs to be done before any further disruption from him or myself continues. I have a report at AN3 about this if you care to look.—Ryulong (琉竜) 17:06, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

You will see on the college football talk page, that I have explained my position in great, great detail. I'm willing to make compromise to improve Wikipidea. I have removed content from my tables, consolidated tables. This user is very hostile and has been edit warring me all morning. I would report him, but me being a Wikipidea novice, am having trouble doing so. I don't mean the cause trouble. I hope he will be addressed appropriately. DMB112 (talk) 17:11, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

So this guy just reverted my edit on his talk page where I was explaining my position and informing him that I reported him for edit warring. PLEASE take care of him. He is not contributing to Wikpidea and is a repeating offender.