User talk:HistoryofIran

Requesting comments and a little advice.

I saw you asked how to procede if you want people to vote on which picture to use in an article. The answer is to start a Request for Comment. However, note that you are supposed to discuss the matter at the article's talk page first. And my personal advice to you: Since you are still relatively new, try rather to focus on making edits that are not disputed. Most of us get into edit disputes once in a while, but it's normally a good advice to not get into too many disputes. Being in too many disputes can easily get you into trouble. And while experienced users aren't right all the time, they tend to be right more often than less experienced users because they know a bit more what belongs in an encyclopedia and not. I also have the impression that some of the other editors on history of Iran articles are very knowledgeable, so there may be a thing or two to learn from them. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 13:18, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Once again, thanks for another great advice. --HistoryofIran (talk) 13:45, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism

please stop adding "Category:Lur people" to articles. there is not even a reference in those articles about Lur people. in Persian Wikipedia, administrators rollbacked all of similar edits. please dont change/add anything without any reliable reference and read WP:RS. Thanks   ARASH PT  talk  16:32, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

The surname says it all about the person, i have asked an admin about that. --HistoryofIran (talk) 16:33, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

stop sabotage!!!!!!

You dont have any compelling reason so stop sabotage in Lurs page--Setenlyacc (talk) 10:15, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

What do you did was showing a map without any source and pictures of Lorestan which should belong to the LORESTAN article, not the Lur article, not to tell that you added the picture of a Persian as an Lur without any source, and please stop doing copyvio or i will have to contact an admin. --HistoryofIran (talk) 12:54, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Copying within Wikipedia

Since you are the subject of a contributor copyright investigation (Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/HistoryofIran), I assume you have been notified how to handle copyrighted content, including from within Wikipedia. Since I am unsure, though, given your history of blanking your talk page, I'll just emphasize that it is violation of the copyright of our contributors to copy their content from one article to another without giving necessary credit. I cannot determine precisely which articles you copied from in making Media (region), but I have found hits to text in multiple articles - History of Afghanistan and Medes, to name two. I do not know where you first got it, but presumably you do. To restore that article, you must provide proper credit. Please see Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia for the process. If you don't understand it, you are welcome to come by my talk page or to use {{ping}} to draw me here, and I will try to explain. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 13:07, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Alright, thanks, and just letting you know what i copied was from the Medes article.[1] --HistoryofIran (talk) 13:14, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

HistoryofIran, the conditions of me unblocking you was that you would be familiar with WP:Copyrights and all related policies and guidelines. WP:Copying within Wikipedia is a specific guideline noted at WP:Copyrights. I not going to re-block you just yet (although if another administrator disagrees with me, that's fine) because here (and elsewhere) you ultimately noted in the edit summary where the article was copied from - which is not enough per the guideline. You must realize that you are on very, very thin ice when it comes to copying content from anywhere. Singularity42 (talk) 13:46, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Correct me if im wrong, but if i have to copy information from another Wikipedia article i have to write in my edit summary the name of the user who added it? right? --HistoryofIran (talk) 15:09, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

You need to follow one of the options at WP:CWW#Proper attribution. I usually use the following steps:

1. At the destination article, add an edit summary that says copied content from [[article name]]; see that article's history for attribution
2. At the source article's talk page, add {{copied}} (with the basic parameters filled out).

There are other options to take, but until you are more familiar with the process, it is best to use the above two steps together. Singularity42 (talk) 15:23, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Also, if you think the original article just needs to be moved, redirected, or merged, there are better options than copying-and-pasting. Singularity42 (talk) 15:26, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

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Please add ref

Rostam Farrokhzād Cite error: The named reference <ref name="Al-Tabari 1993" /> was invoked but never defined >>> see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rostam_Farrokhz%C4%81d&diff=568542735&oldid=568512751 Thanks --Frze ^{> talk} 21:49, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

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I already tried to tell him that he can't edit with no sources, what else should i do? --HistoryofIran (talk) 19:32, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

If you take a look at the dispute resolution page I linked to above, there are a number of things you can do, starting with just discussing it on the talk page. If that doesn't work and you find yourself at an impasse, use something like a third opinion, request for comment, or the dispute resolution noticeboard to get more eyes on the situation. If you really are right, those other editors will back you, and you'll develop a consensus behind what you're doing. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 20:06, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Alright, thanks. --HistoryofIran (talk) 20:07, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Afshar Tribes

I was going to point out that you and the IP are both at 3RR and I've warned the IP, but really, why shouldn't you be blocked now? You are under an editing restriction that applies to this article. I don't mean to be harsh but why did you think you could revert 3 times in one day, let alone one week? I think you are right but that doesn't excuse 3 reverts. Dougweller (talk) 18:37, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

I thought if it was over 3 reverts on one article? --HistoryofIran (talk) 19:08, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Not for you. See above: "You are limited to one revert per page per week, excepting obvious vandalism, and are required to discuss any content reversions on the page's talk page." I've already reported an editor for not discussiong reversions on talk pages. Dougweller (talk) 21:03, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Reliability of sources

Naturally, other things being equal it is more helpful to have sources which are in English, so that most people reading the English Wikipedia have a chance of being able to follow them. However, I have no idea why you think that sources not in English are not reliable. I can only assume that yu have misunderstood the word "reliable"; if so, you may or may not find it helpful to read Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources. JamesBWatson (talk) 22:04, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Please add ref name=irhis

see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Farrukhan_the_Great&diff=prev&oldid=570419815 --Frze ^{> talk} 06:49, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

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Ways to improve House of Sasan

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Ways to improve Siege of Tabriz

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Teymourtash Page Edits

Dear Khosrow,

I was viewing the modifications you have made to Teymourtash's page, and regarding the omission of any reference to his 'aristocratic' background, wouldn't you say its mention would provide useful biological background about his origins and social context? -- And Rew 16:27, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

A non-Wikipedia article

Not primarily Wikipedia related, but maybe an article that may interest you: Persian silk in Viking burials. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 20:02, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Sounds interesting, thank you :-). --HistoryofIran (talk) 21:56, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Khwarazmian dynasty

Could you give a quote from the source you just added to the Khwarazmian dynasty article?[2] I searched this page[3] and found official(s) twice;

• 1." It was not, however, until the sultanate of Berk-Yaruq (Bark-Yāroq) b. Malek Šāh (r. 1094-1105) that another military slave commander, Ekinči b. Qočqar, became governor with the official title of Khwarazmshah in 490/1097."
• 2."Little specific is known about the internal functioning of the Khwarazmian state, but its bureaucracy, directed as it was by Persian officials, must have followed the Saljuq model."
  

.. neither having anything to do with the Persian language.
I searched for "Persian" and found 3 mentions of Persian, only one referring to the language:

• 1."He was poised to attack Iraq and overturn the Abbasid caliphate, but his death was the signal for a rising and general massacre of the hated Khwarazmian troops in the Persian lands".
• 2."Little specific is known about the internal functioning of the Khwarazmian state, but its bureaucracy, directed as it was by Persian officials, must have followed the Saljuq model."
• 3."Nor is much specifically known of court life in Gorgānj under the Khwarazmshahs, but they had, like other rulers of their age, their court eulogists, and as well as being a noted stylist, Rašid-al-Din Vaṭvāṭ also had a considerable reputation as a poet in Persian."

Also, you need to start properly referencing your sources. --Kansas Bear (talk) 22:49, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

My bad, i misread that it said the state followed the Seljuq model in language, and not only in the bureaucracy, i have removed it. --HistoryofIran (talk) 22:53, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Iranian Peoples

Could you check the Iranian peoples? Some users are adding Indians, Pakistanis, etc. on the article. BBBAAACCC (talk) 10:09, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Zarine Khan is of Pashtun origin, so i see no problems, but i will take a look on it later. --HistoryofIran (talk) 10:50, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Tariq ibn Ziyad

I have started a discussion on the Tariq ibn Ziyad talk page, please feel free to join. --Kansas Bear (talk) 18:01, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

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I hope this user right will be helpful for you to start and create more good articles. Regards. Zyma (talk) 18:54, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

It will, thank you :-). --HistoryofIran (talk) 11:58, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Happy New Year with a barnstar!

	The Hard Worker's Barnstar
	I think it is high time you received one of these :) Thank you for tireless edits to and creations of Iranian history-related articles, one of Wikipedia's more deficient areas. Keep it up! Constantine ✍ 18:09, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much :). --HistoryofIran (talk) 19:44, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Peer review of Shahrbaraz

Hello! I started a peer review of your article on Shahrbaraz. See Wikipedia:Peer review/Shahrbaraz/archive1. Cheers, Madalibi (talk) 02:34, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Re:

First off, please refrain from throwing the accusations of "Disruptive edits" around. I don't know what you are discussing with your "other guy", but a Georgian monarch who had a purported Iranian/Arsacid ancestry centuries ago cannot be considered to have been Persian or Iranian. As for the Alan consorts of Georgia, they are placed into the "Alans" category, the parental category of which is Category:Iranian peoples. I hope this helps. --Kober^Talk 11:33, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Do you have any source that supports your Georgianization claim? Ages ago? please don't bring excuses, you even removed the category from the first Arsacid king of Iberia (who was the son of Vologases V of Parthia). If you look a little down below my edit then you can see that other guy. Yes, i already know about the Alan category is listed under Category:Iranian peoples, so is the Persian category, but that doesn't mean i should remove all these categories from them. --HistoryofIran (talk) 11:35, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

I'm sorry but I have not advanced any Georgianization claim. I would be extremely grateful if you could elaborate what you mean by this ingenious phrase. What I see on your part is a typical nationalistic agenda to claim something even reportedly or semi-legendarily connected to Iran as "Iranian". Do you have sources for such claims? Regarding the issue of categorization, the Wikipedia guideline has it that unnecessary parental categories should be avoided wherever possible. Please check WP:OVERCAT. --Kober^Talk 12:08, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Let me remind of what you said: but a Georgian monarch who had a purported Iranian/Arsacid ancestry centuries ago cannot be considered to have been Persian or Iranian. So what are they then considered if not Georgian nor Iranian? and what do you mean by your phrase about the Iran thing? and like you told me about the disruptive edits thing; please refrain from throwing the accusations of "nationalistic agenda" around.

Great, now you're bringing Overcategorization excuses. My friend, that's not Overcategorization. This is rather an important category to show what century these people lived in, just like Category:2nd-century Greek people.. etc. --HistoryofIran (talk) 12:12, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Since you're making other edits, and not answering me, then i guess we have reached a result. I will add the categories when they have been changed to Iranian. --HistoryofIran (talk) 15:13, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

No, we have not "reached any result". You still have to provide sources for your claims. --Kober^Talk 17:24, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

What claims exactly? so you are saying that he was not from the Arsacid dynasty and not the son of the king of Iran? oh dear.. i suggest that you should read this featured article then: Parthian Empire. Actuallly, it is you who should provide sources for YOUR claims, not me. --HistoryofIran (talk) 20:44, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Found any sources for your claims yet? i will re-add the category on the articles soon, so if you have no sources which supports your claims that Arsacids of Iberia from start had been Georgianized, then i will add the categories, and just because you don't like it won't really help. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 18:36, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Ethnicity

Are Scythians Turkic or Mongolian people? Many Scythian have Turkic, Mongolian genetics. Esc2003 (talk) 18:50, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Nice unrelated and unsourced nationalistic story, i have added sources my friend, but there is no sources about the Turkic origin though, what's your excuse for that :)? --HistoryofIran (talk) 18:51, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Sorry about that. My English is not good I can not express myself correctly. I am not claiming that the Scythians were Turkic people. I'm telling you the wrong idea and act. You are doing a similar false. The general accept is Bulgars are a Turkic people. All peoples have external elements in their population. -Esc2003 (talk) 19:13, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Your source say ...Many scholars posit the origins of the Bulgars as a Turkic tribe of Central Asia (perhaps with Iranian elements)... -Esc2003 (talk) 19:24, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Well, Britannica is not always an accepted source according to the rules (can't exactly remember where it says that, ask an admin if you're curious), but since i am NOT a nationalist and a nice guy i will add the source for Turkic origins shortly. What about the other sources about the Iranian origin? please add the category back or i will have to contact an admin, thank you. --HistoryofIran (talk) 19:35, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

An admin has knowledge of the situation. I do not think of adding this category. Because having some Iranian elements don't make these people Iranian. -Esc2003 (talk) 19:49, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Fine, then i will contact an admin, since you forget looking at the other sources which say something else, plus, as i said before; Britannica is not always reliable. --HistoryofIran (talk) 20:25, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Wikilinking

Hi, and thanks for your work on the English Wikipedia. Just a short note to point out that we don’t normally link:

• dates
• years
• commonly known geographical terms (including well-known country-names), and
• common terms you’d look up in a dictionary (unless significantly technical).

This is true also for infoboxes.

Thanks and my best wishes.

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Abu'l-Hasan al-Kasim ibn Ahmad Shams al-Maymand Kufat

Can you find mention of al-Maymand Kufat in the source http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/ghaznavids ? I can not find mention of him or his death in Herat. --Kansas Bear (talk) 19:47, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Ops, looks like i put the wrong source in, will fix it shortly. Thank you. --HistoryofIran (talk) 19:49, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

No problem. I have added 2 sources already. --Kansas Bear (talk) 20:04, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for that. --HistoryofIran (talk) 20:09, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Interesting article!

List of battles involving the Ghurid dynasty. --Kansas Bear (talk) 16:53, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks to your List of battles involving the Ghaznavid Empire. I have added that on the talk page :). --HistoryofIran (talk) 16:54, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Marzbans of Persian Armenia

Hi, do you want to keep the redirect Marzbans of Persian Armenia? John Vandenberg ^(chat) 05:39, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

What? --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 13:41, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

The page "Marzbans of Persian Armenia" is currently a redirect to the page "Template:Marzbans of Persian Armenia". The template is great, but the page "Marzbans of Persian Armenia" doesnt have any prose. May I delete the redirect "Marzbans of Persian Armenia"? (the template wont be affected) John Vandenberg ^(chat) 00:37, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Oh yeah, of course; go ahead :). --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 13:01, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

List of battles involving the Ghurid dynasty

What information do you have for the Battle of Merv 1190, specifically? I have found an extremely brief mention in The Madrasa at Zuzan:Islamic Architecture in Eastern Iran of the Eve of the Mongol Invasions Sheila S. Blair, Muqarnas:An Annual on Islamic Art and Architecture, Vol.3, ed. Oleg Grabar, page 82. [4] Other sources do not specifically mention Merv, simply that there was a battle.

However, I do not find any mention of the Kara-Khitan Khanate in this battle in any of the sources. --Kansas Bear (talk) 19:31, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

I can't really remember and i don't know if i misread something or not, i will take a look at it tomorrow. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 19:37, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

A question regarding on old topic.

Hello again HistoryofIran! It's been awhile! :D

Back when I opened a new discussion on the Sasanian Empire talk page discussing the matter of a new map being made by the cartographers of the Wikipedia Map Workshop, a matter in which you agreed on. Well, so far everyone else agrees that a new map should be made as well, but a consensus has not been reached on the borders of the new map. And that is because of a matter of sources for the borders.

Your map, which is the current map of the Sasanian Empire in the infobox depicts the empire at it's greatest extent shows the Persians having control over Transoxiana. Which is why I ask you, what are the sources you found regarding the Sasanian Empire at it's greatest extent controlling Transoxiana? That's all that I ask. Please let me know. Cheers! :) Kirby (talk) 06:20, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello my friend, indeed, long time no see :). My map is based off this map https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sassanid_empire_map.png, so i didn't really use sources. By the way, perhaps this map [5] could inspire you. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 12:34, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello again HistoryofIran! Been awhile. I was thinking of uploading a new map the Sassanian Empire that I made into the infobox of the article and I just wanted to know your thoughts on it:

• 
  Sassanian Empire 621 A.D. (Syria, Palestine, Egypt and Central Anatolia are shaded (under occupation)

Please let me know soon. Cheers! :) Kirby (talk) 09:42, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Looks good, i must say that i am impressed. Here a some very minor errors: Pusang should be called Pushang. This is during the Sasanian period, so Khuzestan should be spelled as Khuzistan, while Ardestan should be spelled as Ardistan. You have forgotten to put a dot on the city of Susa. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 12:27, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Excellent! Thank you so much! I will be putting this map into the infobox of the article immediately and on top of that I will correct the errors that I made! Cheers! Kirby (talk) 18:04, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Ways to improve Abd al-Razzaq Maymandi

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I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Might want to consider Tetley's 2008 The Ghaznavid and Seljuk Turks: Poetry as a Source for Iranian History.

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new protests

2014 Iranian protests.--Herezola (talk) 00:10, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Shahrbaraz

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Your GA nomination of Shahrbaraz

The article Shahrbaraz you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Shahrbaraz for comments about the article. Well done! Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Adam Cuerden -- Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:32, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Congrats!--,dgjdksvc;jknhg (talk) 07:09, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 14:28, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Your contributions are appreciated! :-) --Nadia (Kutsuit) (talk) 03:24, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you :-). --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 11:14, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Minor edits

You've been warned in the past for incorrect use of the minor edit check box. This, this, this, and this are just a few from today alone. Perhaps you should just stop ever using it as you seem to have trouble distinguishing minor edits. -- Mufka ^{(u) (t) (c)} 22:24, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

I have read it once again, and now i fully understand what i am doing. If you see me use the minor edit check box when it shouldn't be used (like my recent edit on the Russian related article), then it is because it was a accident/habit. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 13:51, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Palermo

Just a heads up, this IP[6] is simply Rarevogel editing while logged out. This is his way of editing warring his POV into an article without logging in. --Kansas Bear (talk) 23:30, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Yep - Found about that when my edit on Palermo got reverted. But thanks anyway. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 14:14, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

March 2014

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 36 hours for edit warring, as you did at Azerbaijani people. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the following text below this notice: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.

During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.  Dougweller (talk) 22:03, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

I strongly suggest you read your editing restrictions again. You are limited to one revert per page per week, excepting obvious vandalism, and are required to discuss any content reversions on the page's talk page. Az-507 is now under the same restrictions, and I've locked both articles for a week. Dougweller (talk) 22:05, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

I will, by the way, this is his other account: [7]. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 22:10, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

At the moment I don't see enough evidence for to go to WP:SPI. However, I've blocked and given the sanctions warning to him and Ninetoyadom. Dougweller (talk) 07:03, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Sigh.. [8] --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 14:17, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

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Chovgan

Cite the Persian and Middle Persian name with a good reliable etymology source. English source is better. --Zyma (talk) 04:11, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

The Middle Persian name is from this article (i can't exactly find a source where it mentions the Middle Persian word čaukān, only that the name of the Byzantine game is of Persian origin). I don't have a source for the Modern Persian version either, i simply added the Modern Persian version of the name. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 13:59, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

It's better to add a source (a Persian source or non-English source is good too, just reliable), because that IP-hopper started a battle and you should cite the necessary content to protect and improve the article. --Zyma (talk) 03:30, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Alright, i will try to find some sources, but i can't really today since i am quite busy in real life. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 13:56, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

I actually found one [9]. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 15:23, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Your help/opinion is requested

Hey History of Iran. Please come to Ferdowsi page, in the Talk page at the bottom. There is an active discussion where your opinion can matter. Thanks =]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ferdowsi

Go down to Tajik Persian. I agree with your reasoning in the history. Thanks!

Dr. Persi (talk) 01:29, 27 March 2014 (UTC) (Sorry I keep forgetting that you need auto log in everytime you come to Wikipedia.

Hello Dr. Persi; sorry, i don't have the energy to discuss about that, and i am a little busy today. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 14:03, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

SPI

Your comment is necessary: [10]. You are more familiar with his activities and behavior. --Zyma (talk) 19:33, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

I have never been part of these kind of things before, what i am supposed to do? i think you pretty said everything. Thank you for making this investigation by the way. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 21:31, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Just describe his activity plus some diffs of other articles, because that editor uses alternative accounts and a dynamic IP address. I don't know how many articles targeted by his accounts and IPs. Maybe he has more accounts, so It's better to mention other possibilities to help admins. You can mention other articles if you know. Regards. --Zyma (talk) 03:59, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Bukhara

Hi. I hope you are fine. Please have an eye on Bukhara. Maybe you know better and more reliable sources?! Thanks. --Lysozym (talk) 16:49, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

- Alright :). Please inform me if there are any other Iranian-related article that have the same situation like Bukhara.

- Yeah, i know a few sources about Bukhara (mostly about the city during the ancient and early Islamic period). I will probably edit it later (or today). --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 17:00, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

There is already much information about Bukhara here History of Bukhara. Maybe these two articles should merge with each others? --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 17:18, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Laskaris

I noticed you have been "interacting" with Rarevogel(ie. restoring his deletions of what he does not like). I have added a reference for Laskaris' Persian origin. The Oxford Dictionary of Byzantium is not viewable, at least for me, and I have not found any mention of an Arab origin for the name. --Kansas Bear (talk) 19:41, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Sounds great, thanks. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 20:23, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Safavid Dynasty

Hello,

Didn't the Safavids control the kingdoms of Kartli and Kakheti at their greatest extent? All sources and even articles with the sources on Wikipedia confirm this, however, on the map about the greatest extent of the Safavids, Kartli and Kakheti are not included.

I think the map should be re-edited, no?

Regards LouisAragon (talk) 16:27, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Done :-). --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 16:55, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Good job. It seems only many Georgian users on Wikipedia are quite annoyed with the fact that Turks and Iranians ruled their land for centuries, and therefore try to conduct edit wars here to satisfy their wishful thoughts. The new map you made still needs to include Imereti and Kabardino-Balkaria (Apart from Kartli and Kakheti), as that's what the maximum extent of the Safavid Dynasty was in the Caucasus, under Shah Abbas I. (Right now the map says wrongly the maximum extent under Shah Ismail I)

And maybe adding important place names like Derbent, Baku and Tblisi (Tiflis), that would make it definetely complete :)

PS: If he keeps reverting it, he can and will be reported for vandalism.

Regards LouisAragon (talk) 16:15, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Well, if we are going to show the Safavid dynasty under Shah Abbas I, then we will have to change the eastern Safavid borders, since cities like Merv wasn't under Safavid control during the reign of Shah Abbas I. Plus im not sure how much of Syria and Turkey was under Safavid control during the reign of Shah Abbas I. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 16:50, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, the map would need a small overhaul, but I think it's the right thing as the Safavids truly peaked and are most famous under and because of Shah Abbas. Another idea is to form the map like the one is made for the Ottomans, with it's maximum extents under each respective Sultan/Shah. Wich shouldn't be too hard as the Safavids didn't make any further conquests than what Abbas and Ismail did.

Anyhow, I think it's very important to show the maximum extent in the Caucasus (much more than over that of gains in modern day Turkmenistan, Pakistan etc), as much of the Safavids history, royal house, and society is intertwened with the Caucasus.

LouisAragon (talk) 17:15, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

I've made some changes on the map, but i am still not done. I still don't know how much of Turkey and Syria was under the control of Shah Abbas I, perhaps you can help me? --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 18:14, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

I'm searching proper sources about that right now. According to most sources, under Abbas (following the Ottoman-Safavid War of 1603-1618), he reconqured most of the Kurdish area's ecomprising most of modern day Kurdistan, (except the area's in northeast Syria it seems), while also regaining and retaining all of Eastern Anatolia/SouthEastern Anatolia, and most of Iraq.

Syria was therefore lost after Shah Ismail we can safely say.

LouisAragon (talk) 19:04, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

I think i am done with the map, but we certainly can't call it the greatest extent of the Safavid Empire since it is a bit smaller than the territory of Shah Ismail I. Do you want me to overwrite it on the same map or upload a new one with a different name? --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 19:45, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

I think it's better to upload a new one with a different name, yeah. Such as The maximum extent of the Safavid Empire under Shah Abbas I. Did you include Kartli, Kakheti, Imereti and Kabardino-Balkaria, and the important city names of the Caucasus such as Tiflis, Derbent, Baku, Ganja etc? :) Nice work.

By the way, in your opinion, do you think it is much work to create a map like that of the Ottomans where they have put the extents and gains per Sultan? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:OttomanEmpireIn1683.png

I think such maps might benefit empires more who lasted multiple centuries.

LouisAragon (talk) 20:19, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

I was unable to include the important city names since it would look much different than the way the other cities were written, and don't think it's possible to make it look like the Ottoman one, i mean how are we going to show when territory was lost? (which it doesn't on the Ottoman map, that is also the reason the map does not include the whole Ottoman period). --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 20:56, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Here is it [11] --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 21:06, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Yeah I agree. Hm, annoying that the city names can't be added. We would need to create a whole new map for that? Anyway, it looks perfect for the rest. :) LouisAragon (talk) 21:29, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

We can change the maps as of today. LouisAragon (talk) 14:03, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

What? --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 22:23, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Once again, this is for all of your fantastic contributions to Iran-related articles. :-) --Kutsuit (talk) 21:54, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Once again, thank you very much :-D. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 14:04, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Biased edit

Is this edit really matches with written edit summary?! I didn't find anything in the main article of Fereydon, so I restored the previous revision and change the wikilink to correct article. --Zyma (talk) 16:39, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

This article [12] (with sources of course) says that they were Iranians, so you did the right thing, thank you. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 16:45, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Okay. Please watch both articles. Thanks. --Zyma (talk) 16:51, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

A Persian Empire based in the region of nowadays Pakistan?

Have you ever heard of any Persian Empire being based in the region of nowadays Pakistan? The article below states so in the introduction. It kinda sounds like wannabe South Asian complexion to me like on many of their articles. Would like to hear your opinion about it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan

Regards LouisAragon (talk) 18:29, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

No, i haven't. You did the right thing by writing it on the talk page, since there are not any empires of Iranian origin based on Pakistan, and the latter who reverted your edit won't have a source or anything else to back that claim up. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 18:33, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, it seems they finally accepted the inevitable truth. lol By the way, there's some other stuff going on the Daria-i-noor page. It seems some Pakistani or Bangladeshi once wrote a novel/story a few years ago about how the real daria-i-noor is supposed to be in Bangladesh. Of course this is total bogus, and all worldwide independant scholars, academics and institutions consider the daria-i-noor to be in Iran.

Anyway, there are some of these South Asian nationalists (I guess?) who try to base the reality on that one novel. I reverted all their edits and put like 10 independant sources on the talk page, but I'm afraid we will have to report some people in the near future as nationalism and wannabe PoV is known to have blinded many notable people in the past. Any idea how one can report someone for spreading misinformation based on non-solid facts? I have never done it so I don't really know how it goes in work.

Would be great if you could show me the way.

LouisAragon (talk) 15:52, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

I ain't really a expert about these reporting stuffs, so sadly i can't help you. Try to ask an admin. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 15:56, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Alright, thanks. Will do. ;-) By the way, care to put your opinion on this matter? It's about mentioning a so called Bangladeshi Daria-i-Noor on the Daria-i-noor page, but none of the (South Asian) posters are able to find a good independant source, but still try to get their bogus PoV accepted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Daria-i-Noor#Daria-i-noor_rv_war

LouisAragon (talk) 22:36, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, i know nothing about that thing and i ain't really in the mood to have a long discussion about something in a article. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 15:29, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Your edit summaries

I would suggest you not refer to other editors, even those that continue to remove or change referenced information, as vandals. It can be considered a personal attack. Other than that, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!! --Kansas Bear (talk) 03:20, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Alright, i will. Thank you. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 11:02, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

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Injuids

Can you give more information about origin of Injuids? Rheevez (talk) 06:48, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Surkhab I

آرش salam, dashtam maqalat-e zibayetan ra mi-didam ke be Surkhab I residam. in maqale taqriban kollash qalat ast. fekr konam 2 nafar ba nam-e Surkhab ra eshtebahan yeki farz kardid.

in ra xub bebinid: . Surkhab I= پیروز یکم←قباد یکم←کیوس←باو←سرخاب يكم.--Ταπυροι (گپ) 16:11, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

I will try to a write a easy form of English to make you understand me better; Don't worry, i have not confused the Surkhab I article. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 18:21, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

About Template talk:Bavand dynasty: That is because the Bavand articles in the Persian Wikipedia are from old sources, the Bavand articles used in the English Wikipedia have more new sources with new theories/ideas. And the names of the ispahbodan are not wrong because they had more than one name/title. Bav is the same person as Farrukhzad, and Valash was a usurper of the Bavand kingdom like Bahram Chobin was in the Sasanian Empire.

Other: I will remove Template:History of Tabaristan because it has many errors and it the Template:History of Iran is better because it shows all history of Iran. Don't worry my friend, i will soon make Template:History of Iran better and add the regions which were ruled by who, like Tabaristan. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 18:20, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

It is interesting and strange at the same time! At the moment I dont see any problem with this situation.

However, as the models do not agree with you. Tabaristan templates can be independent (ie Kurdistan) and current options as inconsistent with other parts of Iran. For example, some parts of Irans history is: before the Aryans, before and after Islam and modern. But Tabaristan different sections are: Sassanid and Shi'ism rulers, and after the Safavid. I would like the separation patterns.--Ταπυροι (گپ) 08:08, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

That is exactly what i am soon planning to do with the Template:History of Iran in the following months (or weeks). I will soon make a better version of it where it shows separate patterns. Not everyone knows what Tabaristan is so it would be good to add it inside the Template:History of Iran. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 10:41, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Bad news, i've tried to make it now, but it did not work. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 19:48, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Opinion

Hello again ;-),

On the Nader Shah and Afsharid Dynasty pages it says Nader was King of Iran, but afaik, all Shahs/kings of Iran referred to themselves and were referred to as outsiders and foreigners as Shah of Persia or Shahanshah of Persia. (until the Pahlavi Dynasty, that is)

I'd like to hear your take on this.

- LouisAragon (talk) 17:31, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

The word Persia is a term used in the West to denote Iran, which can be traced back to the Old Iranian word ariya (can't remember the exact spelling of the word). The word later becomes Eran in Middle Iranian languages, and was used by the Sasanians, and so on the word continued in New Persian as Iran. Calling it for Persia is inaccurate, and if you ask me personally, then i wouldn't really use the word, and would prefer Iran. Persia is derived from the Old Persian word Parsa, which is the name of the present-day province of Fars/Pars in Iran. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 17:38, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, agree with that. Btw, [[13]]. From what I know about Iranian/Turkish history in the Caucasus, this sounds like WP:JDL, don't you think? - LouisAragon (talk) 16:42, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Well, my knowledge about the history of pre-modern/modern Caucasus is not the best, but it's a well known fact that Georgia remained under Iranian rule until the Iranians were defeated during a certain war (can't remember the name) by the Russians. So, yeah, i agree with you. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 17:03, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

By the way, adding some sources will help you. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 17:31, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

I have ancestry from the Caucasus apart from some Iranian and Russian, but yeah I'm not biased you know, and I don't want to come across as such. But anyway, despite not wanting to label users, it seems he kinda fits in the WP:JDL (also not the first time me and other users who edit on Caucasus pages get to some degree obstructed with him). Can't blame him though to some degree. Anyway I doubt it's much use to bring sources, as he still would want to "tell" it in his way, and I'm not really in the mood to go in a rv war. Might bring it up again in the future with some sources. The version it is in right now is quite historically correct though. PS: you ment the Russo-Persian War (1804-1813). Bests - LouisAragon (talk) 23:44, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

I know that you're not biased, but not adding sources might make your claims less stronger, if you know what i mean. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 09:06, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Yeah that's true. Btw, would really appreciate if you could drop your opinion here [[14]] about this matter. Iran is added in one definition as part of South Asia by one institution/organization in the world (the UN), solely for statistic purposes, and therefore I edited the article to portray it that precise way. Now this certain (South Asian) user thinks I'm being biased and don't want to see Iran in a list with South Asian nations and brings up weird complot theories. In other words; severe case of WP:JDL. He can't even bring up one thing that proves my statements in the version wrong. Quite pathetic, but anyway, the guy wants to play games, so we'll along.

Would be helpful if you could put your opinion in the link I gave in the first sentence. It doesn't need to be long; just why you think that my version or his version is correct. Here is the comparison between the version it was (my version), and when he started to revert everything. [[15]]

Regards - LouisAragon (talk) 17:04, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

I have honestly no idea what to say, my knowledge in these kind of things are not the best. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 18:45, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

I see.. Btw, I'm trying to get the Persian people page fixed as of these days. The information regarding other groups has been put correctly in their own pages (such as Tajiks etc), and now the article only uses Persian speakers from regular Iran/West Asia, the termination almost all peoples use to denote Persians. There is only one difficulty, and that's with the diasporean numbers. As you know many people, governments, and institutes don't differentiate between Iranian and Persian, so it's rather hard to get good numbers for Persians only. Now my proposal is; either we remove all numbers and fix it all correctly on the Iranian diaspora page, or we go only by estimations. My vote goes for the former, but I'd like to hear your opinion about it too.

- LouisAragon (talk) 18:26, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Im kinda neutral, so let's just go with what you think is best. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 18:29, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Alright, will show you the final result later. - LouisAragon (talk) 06:04, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Rendering Middle Persian script - how to do so?

Hello,

My browser (Firefox) cannot render the Middle Persian script found on Yazdegerd III. Since you added the script, I thought maybe you could help me. I've installed all of the Ancient text fonts found on Help:Special characters, and installed Pahlavi script, but I still cannot render the Middle Persian script found on the Yazdegerd III article.

Thank you, --¿3family6 _contribs 19:25, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

I have Firefox too, and at the start it didn't render Middle Persian, but then after some time it rendered it, but after some time again, it couldn't render it anymore. And i haven't even installed any Ancient text font. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 11:51, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

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Muslim conquests

Hey, HistoryofIran, as you were the last person before myself to edit the page, I was wondering whether you could possibly offer your input on the recent changes - and reverts of those changes - on the Muslim conquests article. Thank you very much for your time. Torontas (talk) 22:02, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Noticed your dilemma

If you continue to have problems with user:Husamu-d-din and IPs that edit in a similar fashion, you might contact an Admin to protect the pages in question. If these individual(s) refuse to use the talk page, then they can be considered disruptive editor(s). --Kansas Bear (talk) 21:32, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Ahmad Maymandi

The article Ahmad Maymandi you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Ahmad Maymandi for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Bobamnertiopsis -- Bobamnertiopsis (talk) 18:42, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Salam. I think there are few points which may help to improve the article.

1. There should be template like (Template:Infobox officeholder) which tells when he worked as vizier and who were his successor and predecessor.
2. The lead does not cover all aspects of the issue. It does not say anything about him as vizier.
3. I think a section should be added which describes historiography of Ghaznavid era such as Tarikh-e Beyhaqi.
4. There are some information in the online sources which should be added to the article. For example, Iranica writes "ʿAbd-al-Razzāq served as vizier, but the new reign soon ended in violence with the usurpation of the slave commander Ṭoḡrïl Bozan (see Bosworth, pp. 41-47). When the situation became stabilized under sultan Farroḵzād, probably in 443/1052, ʿAbd-al-Razzāq seems to have continued in official service, though not necessarily as vizier."
5. The third Volume of Encyclopedia Islamica [16] may include the article about him. If not, we can use its Persian source [17].

Best,--Seyyed(t-c) 09:45, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

(یاد داستان تاریخ بیهقی درباره حسنک وزیر تو کتاب فارسیمون افتادم ;- )

Hey! I'll do a second review of the Maymandi article if you are done addressing the review concerns. Are you? Sorry for the wait, if I've made you wait. BobAmnertiopsis∴_ChatMe! 00:29, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Mikalids

Dear HistoryofIran, I noticed your revert on Mikalids. Out of the 6 people listed in the Mikalids category I saw only 2 people in which the article explains that they served the Seljuks. So these 2 articles should be individually categorized to Seljuks, not the whole Mikalids catgegory. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:51, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Category discussions

Please feel free to join category discussions if you wish. The currently most important ones regarding the history of Iran are:

• Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2014_August_8#Category:Ancient_Iran
• Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2014_August_8#Category:Iranian_dynasties

Also, can I ask you for your opinion on the use of 'Iranian' and 'Persian' in category names. For example, there is Category:6th-century Persian people‎ but there is Category:8th-century Iranian people‎. Should it both be Persian or should it both be Iranian? Another example, there is a Category:Iranian folklore that is a childcategory of Category:Persian culture‎ that in turn is a childcategory of Category:Iranian culture‎, does it make sense to distinguish between Persian and Iranian culture or not? Marcocapelle (talk) 11:52, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Since many of these "Persians" were not actually of Persian origin, i suggest that all these th-century Persian people categories should get changed to Iranian (which includes all the people, Persian, Parthian, Daylamite.. etc. Persian culture should get changed to the culture of Iran, since not all Persians have exactly the same traditions. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 12:05, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! Marcocapelle (talk) 13:19, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Subdividing Iranian history

Category:History of Iran is subdivided in four eras that are really unique for Iran, namely: 1. Prehistory, 2. Ancient Persian history (up to Alexander the Great), 3. Persian history and 4. Modern history. However, the article History of Iran subdivides into eras that are much more in line with the European eras, namely 1. Prehistory, 2. Antiquity (up to the coming of Islam), 3. Middle Ages, 4. Early Modern history, 5. Modern history (before and after the revolution). Is there a 'good' and 'wrong' subdivision here, or can both subdivisions be regarded as arbitrary? If the latter is the case I would suggest to change the categories in order to allow a consisting parenting to global era categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:47, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Hello Marcocapelle - i am going to bed now as i am going out on camping and i will return on Friday. When i have returned, i will take a look on it (either on Friday or in the weekend that follows, not sure). Have a nice day! --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 21:38, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

• Welcome back and I hope you enjoyed your vacation! Meanwhile, see also: CfD Wars involving Persia and CfD Military history of Persia. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:36, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
• And also see CfD merging Sasanian people categories and CfD Khosrau II. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:47, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

My computer is broken (i am writing on my phone) so i will first be able to answer you on monday or the day after.

• Sorry to hear, that's very bad news for you! Marcocapelle (talk) 19:17, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Nah, it's fine, it's just a computer, but thanks for your concerns :). A bit delayed, but now i am back.

Samanid Empire addition

I went ahead and added a section for the pre-Ghaznavid "rulers". If I missed something or messed something up, feel free to fix or change it. --Kansas Bear (talk) 07:05, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

I will focus on the section when i have time, since i am currently very busy. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 13:05, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Another discussion going on

If you wish, please join the discussion in Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2014_August_29#Category:Sasanian_people. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:21, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Al-Karaji

Need to keep an eye on this article. Another editor removed a reference and referenced information under a false edit summary. --Kansas Bear (talk) 00:09, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Will do. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 23:35, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

I've restored the reference and referenced information, but it would be wise to keep an eye on similar articles and/or editors. --Kansas Bear (talk) 00:09, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Tiridates I of Armenia

No one is denying his Parthian ancestry, both of his paternal grandparents had Armenian ancestry, therefore he does as well. So it should be included as well. --Steverci (talk) 23:34, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

That's really irrelevant and technically he doesn't have Armenian ancestry anymore (his grandfather was a Atropatenean Iranian whose mother had Greek and Armenian ancestry, so it is doesn't make any sense to say that Tiridates I has Armenian ancestty). No one would write that down on any article. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 09:21, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Ethnic background as a whole is considered irrelevant for most monarch pages which is why I originally removed it, though I changed my mind because Tiridates is the first of his dynasty. There is no such ancestral rule, and this shows Wikipedia includes the ethnicity of grandparents. According to WP:Nationality, ethnic background can be included if it is notable to the subject. Ergo, the King of Armenia having Armenian ethnicity is not distracting from the topic. --Steverci (talk) 22:35, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Well it isn't really notable to the topic, but go ahead. In the upcoming days i will make it more detailed and add some more stuff about him to try at least make it non-irrelevant for the article about his ancestry and add some other new information about him. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 23:13, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Out of curiosity, like what? --Steverci (talk) 01:18, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

His reforms and his ancestors/ancestry. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 10:14, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

hi

Salam bar shoma hamvatan dostdashtani-e aziz. Be dalil inke taze dar Wikipedia sabte nam Nemodam mojaaz be enteghal dadan matlab nistam. sabeghe fa'aliat daram. Mir-i buzurg? mishavad man mir buzurg ke dar tamam manabe mir bozorg be hamin shekl neveshte shodeh ast. dar hich manb'a va ma'khaz va zabani be in shekl na gofte shode, na neveshte mishavad albate jessarat nabashad ostad bande hastid. name Kamel ishan ham be in Shekl neveshte mishavad: Qavamuddin ibn Abdullah al-Mar'ashi. va inke gheyr az in ham ishan nameshan Qavam hast.