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Don't understand what you did at Cumberland Valley Railroad
From the diffs it looks like you deleted and added back every section - but that's just the way the software works sometime. I think you also added three lines (ok as far as I can tell), deleted 3,000 k of text (from where?) and took all the images from the text and put them in a gallery. I don't really like galleries, rather I think it is better to integrate images into the article where the subject is referred to (or nearby). If there is something about the picture placement that bothered you, please let me know, but I'll likely move the photos back into the text, once I figure out everything you did. Now if I can find the missing 3,000 k, I can properly evaluate the changes.
All the best.
Smallbones(smalltalk) 22:48, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
- Hi. I am in the process of revising and streamlining many of the U.S. railroad articles. A great many of them have as many photos as text. Unless it is a large railroad like PRR, NYC or UP, excessive photos are better placed in a gallery. I did not deleted too much text but rather formatted it to confirm to Wikipedia standards so it is an easier read. The article needed extensive cleanup, as do many of the railroad articles. Oanabay04 (talk) 22:59, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
- Actually, I don't think that there was an excessive amount of photos, rather just about everything was referred to in the text. You've taken out the section headings, which is unlikely to increase readability. Perhaps we could get a third opinion? Smallbones(smalltalk) 02:46, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- An article the length of this does not require more than two photos + system map. The more significant the railroad, the more photos are warranted. A history as short as that of CVRR only warrants a simple header stating "History." A company more notable, like Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul and Pacific Railroad or New York, New Haven and Hartford Railroad, warrants subheaders and additional pictures. The CVRR article should reflect the simplicity of the New York, Ontario and Western Railway, Philadelphia and Erie Railroad or Unadilla Valley Railway. Hope this helps. Feel free to obtain a third opinion. Oanabay04 (talk) 14:05, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- Actually, I don't think that there was an excessive amount of photos, rather just about everything was referred to in the text. You've taken out the section headings, which is unlikely to increase readability. Perhaps we could get a third opinion? Smallbones(smalltalk) 02:46, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
OK, I think I understand now what you are trying to do. It might be called "rationalizing text and image use across articles." So, for example, if you found that the article on Downtown Pittsburgh was larger or had more images than the article on Pittsburgh, you'd want to remove text or images from the Downtown Pittsburgh article because Pittsburgh is obviously more important. And according to your importance scale, CVRR should rate few or no images (note that 2 of your examples have no images).
I have to disagree with this philosophy; it's certainly not the way these things are usually handled on Wikipedia. For example, if somebody thought that it's a problem that the Downtown Pittsburgh article was larger than the Pittsburgh article, the usual solution would be to improve the Pittsburgh article, not remove material from Downtown Pittsburgh. Comparisons of importance or notability across articles is seldom, if ever, done. Each article stands on it own. I've looked for guidance in the usual places on how many pictures are too many - and really couldn't find anything except a brief "Images should not overwhelm the article", which doesn't apply here. The images certainly don't overwhelm this article. More directly the Manual of Style WP:IMAGE RELEVANCE states:
"Images must be relevant to the article that they appear in and be significantly and directly related to the article's topic. Because the Wikipedia project is in a position to offer multimedia learning to its audience, images are an important part of any article's presentation. Effort should therefore be made to improve quality and choice of images or captions in articles rather than favoring their removal, especially on pages which have few visuals."
I'll copy this to the CVRR talk page, and revert to the previous layout of the pix. If you'd like I can ask the opinion a 2 editors who are very familiar with Pennsylvania history articles, or you can ask for an RfC if you'd like. Smallbones(smalltalk) 17:38, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- "rationalizing text and image use across articles." You got it. Now, for the sake of complete disclosure, I never like to remove any photos. I think they are all good and always help. But in the past, I have had many photos that I believed were helpful deleted by Wiki Administrators by reason of overkill. After a while, I started to see their point of view. It is tough not to write something we feel strongly about without injecting a fan-like enthusiasm to the text. What we don't want is for images to be stacked on one side one atop the other. The short text of CVRR will allow that. I am fine getting many opinions, though I suspect they will agree with me, as many have chopped at my articles. Oanabay04 (talk) 17:59, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
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Pennsylvania Railroad edits
You removed the post-PRR timeline from the Pennsylvania Railroad article. Do you plan to movie it to the Penn Central Railroad article? -------User:DanTD (talk) 00:59, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
- No, but I probably should. Thanx for catching. Oanabay04 (talk) 14:56, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Frankford El re-route
This is a non-Wikipedia question. If you'd like to contact me by e-mail, my address is verizon dot net preceded by johnbonaccorsi1. At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Aerial_view_of_Market-Frankford_Line,_1978.jpg is a photograph of the rerouting of Philadelphia's Frankford El during the construction of Interstate 95 through Philadelphia. In the Wikipedia article about the El, the photograph's caption refers to the "1976" construction of I-95, but the info you've posted indicates the photograph is from 1978. I'd guess that means the rerouting of the El began in 1976 and lasted into 1978, at least.
I have a couple of questions:
1 – Nowadays, the El columns south from a little bit below Girard Avenue are not steel but concrete. Is that because of the rerouting? Your photograph seems to indicate, as I certainly would have guessed, that the original columns in that area were steel, like those of the rest of the El. I'd guess that when new columns were installed, during the rerouting, concrete was used.
2 – Do you have any idea of the start and finish dates of the rerouting? E.g., "1976 to 1979."
As I say, this is a non-Wikipedia question. I need the info for a family history.96.227.135.168 (talk) 01:21, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
Missing edit summaries
Hello. I notice that you have been making quite a few significant edits and deletions to a number of major railroad related articles in the last few days, however you are also doing so without including any edit summaries. This makes it very hard for other editors who watch these articles to follow what you are doing and/or what your rationale may be for deleting and/or altering so much often long standing material in these articles that been accepted by the community. It would be much appreciated if you would therefore follow this important editing convention and explaining what you are doing and why you are doing it. Failing to do so is likely to lead to other editors start reverting such wholesale changes in the absence of your providing any reason explaining why they were made. Thank you for your cooperation in this matter. Centpacrr (talk) 21:52, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
- Quite true. I am guilty of occassionally forgetting to add rationale and edit sumamries. I have been actively trying to tighten text in a great many railroad-related articles. Many of them are unsourced, wordy, overly detailed, and — most notably — not encyclopedic. I will be more judicious in this practice. Thank you kindly for your message. Oanabay04 (talk) 22:43, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for your reply. I would suggest that if you find something that is unsourced, however, that does not necessarily mean that it is inaccurate and/or unencyclopedic and would suggest before doing wholesale deletions that you see if you can find a source yourself (you would be surprised what unexpected things you learn doing that) or mark it as "citation needed". I often do this myself and find it personally very enlightening. (I have had four books on North American railroad history published since 2005 and also operate a 10,000+ page railroad history site (CPRR.org) with my brother-in-law which has been on line since February 1999, so my interest in the subject is pretty intense.) Thanks. Centpacrr (talk) 23:26, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
- As a rule, I usually research unsourced material and add references instead of deleting the sentence outright. I will also add a "citation needed" if it appears to be important but I cannto find a reliable source. What I usually delete are poorly written sentences that are hyperbole or op-eds dressed up as fact. I looked at your User page; very impressive. I work for two railroads (Wellsboro & Corning) and I am on the board of several other railroad-related non-profit organizations (srrss.org) so I hear you on the intensity level. Your written works are superb. Thanx for contacting me. Oanabay04 (talk) 14:02, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for your kind words about my writing efforts and railroad research. You may also find of interest my photography work of railroad subjects many examples of which you can find here. I was interested to see your involvement with preserving the old Reading station in Southampton which is not far from where I grew up in Glenside, PA. While I have lived on the "Main Line" in Ardmore, PA (I am just a few blocks from the Ardmore train station) since 1972, I spent my youth riding the Reading commuter trains from the Glenside and Jenkintown stations to Reading Terminal in Philadelphia so know that line very well. You may also be interested in my online history of the Belfast & Moosehead Lake Railroad, a 142-year old short line in Waldo County, ME which I have been photographing and writing about for over 30 years which you can find here. Centpacrr (talk) 15:42, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
- As a rule, I usually research unsourced material and add references instead of deleting the sentence outright. I will also add a "citation needed" if it appears to be important but I cannto find a reliable source. What I usually delete are poorly written sentences that are hyperbole or op-eds dressed up as fact. I looked at your User page; very impressive. I work for two railroads (Wellsboro & Corning) and I am on the board of several other railroad-related non-profit organizations (srrss.org) so I hear you on the intensity level. Your written works are superb. Thanx for contacting me. Oanabay04 (talk) 14:02, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for your reply. I would suggest that if you find something that is unsourced, however, that does not necessarily mean that it is inaccurate and/or unencyclopedic and would suggest before doing wholesale deletions that you see if you can find a source yourself (you would be surprised what unexpected things you learn doing that) or mark it as "citation needed". I often do this myself and find it personally very enlightening. (I have had four books on North American railroad history published since 2005 and also operate a 10,000+ page railroad history site (CPRR.org) with my brother-in-law which has been on line since February 1999, so my interest in the subject is pretty intense.) Thanks. Centpacrr (talk) 23:26, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
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Just wanted to say nice work on adding all the new citations and referenced material to The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway. Much appreciated!--Martin IIIa (talk) 12:50, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for the kind words. I read those books over and over again and had them practically memorized (sad, I know!). When I read the article, I knew where some of those facts were officially listed so it was no problem. Cheers! Oanabay04 (talk) 15:00, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
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- As far as I can tell, it was drawn for this publication and not copied. I will retag as copyrighted. Oanabay04 (talk) 15:40, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
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- Hi - I am not sure what the exact Wiki rules are for using "&" vs "and" in railway articles. The rule of thumb is that railroad company names are always written using &.Oanabay04 (talk) 19:20, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
- So I went looking a little harder, and found that Wikipedia:WikiProject Trains/Manual of style#Articles about rail transport companies (railroads) style guide says, "Article names [emphasis mine] should use the word "and" instead of an ampersand (such as Chicago and North Western Railway)." That's doesn't appear to be a blanket statement about all instances of railroad company names, but presumably other uses should follow the style for article names. PRRfan (talk) 20:49, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
- This is a good find, PRRfan. I was guilty of using "&" in the title in the "Infobox SG rail" section. I will fix those. Otherwise, I will stick with using "&" where traditionally appropriate.Oanabay04 (talk) 15:38, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
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- No worries. I was going to withdraw today. Too many "admins" obsessed with an editor's errors instead of the good. If one is to judge a person's candidacy only on their errors and occasional lapses of judgement, then no one should be an admin. And yes, I did read the RfA requirements. It needs to be rewritten because it gives one false hope. Wikipedia Admins are indeed a cult and that is fine; just not one I would feel comfortable being of in retrospect. Thank you for the opportunity. Oanabay04 (talk) 14:43, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
- Regarding the assessment of errors etc. comments at RfA are made by any registered editor, not just existing admins. Yes, of course admins make mistakes too. But community consensus to give users access to the additional tools often revolves around how community members judge that users would react to various situations, the overall aim being protection of the project. I really don't think it's fair to describe admins as a cult; for example my own RfA was very recent and I think it unreasonable to conclude that its result was due to any cult influences. We've all made mistakes, but users are interested to see how potential admins handle such situations. I hope this is some help to you. If you still feel that it'd be handy for you to use the administrative tools, then I'd suggest you gain more experience in such areas and submit another request when you feel able to explain how the various points raised during the RfA have been addressed. Again, I'm fairly sure that any participant would be willing to provide a sentence or two of commentary on this. Anyone else reading this is at liberty to add their own comments here, as they see fit. All the best. -- Trevj (talk · contribs) 15:21, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
- It is fine, really. I was surprised when a few Admins sais I did not contribute to mainframe articles, which is pretty much all I do. I admit I do need to become more familiar with some admin tools. I have been citing them more recently when making edits and suggestions. I will gladly answer any and all questions asked of me concerning the RfA. However, most objections came from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mister Ed (Season 1). That was the first time I did an episode list. The User made a slew of false accusations, despite my attempts to fix the article and improve upon it. The whole thing was absurd and, frankly, turned me off to doing any considerable article creations for Wikipedia. The constant reiteration of the "User's temperment" shows the inherent laziness of the process. In my nine years, I had two incidents. If that is enough to have Admins repeat the same two issues, then I have no interest in being an Admin. It is obviously far from fair and balanced. It is also done in a very short span of time. I do not live and breathe Wiki like most Admins. The most rational response from anyone was "I am reluctant to oppose a candidate who has 34 thousand plus and 92%+ of all edits in mainspace." That is clearly the only one who took a larger view of things. Thank you for your help. Oanabay04 (talk) 00:45, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
- Regarding the assessment of errors etc. comments at RfA are made by any registered editor, not just existing admins. Yes, of course admins make mistakes too. But community consensus to give users access to the additional tools often revolves around how community members judge that users would react to various situations, the overall aim being protection of the project. I really don't think it's fair to describe admins as a cult; for example my own RfA was very recent and I think it unreasonable to conclude that its result was due to any cult influences. We've all made mistakes, but users are interested to see how potential admins handle such situations. I hope this is some help to you. If you still feel that it'd be handy for you to use the administrative tools, then I'd suggest you gain more experience in such areas and submit another request when you feel able to explain how the various points raised during the RfA have been addressed. Again, I'm fairly sure that any participant would be willing to provide a sentence or two of commentary on this. Anyone else reading this is at liberty to add their own comments here, as they see fit. All the best. -- Trevj (talk · contribs) 15:21, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
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Howdy. I provided you a 2014 photo of Pottsville from last weekend to back up the 1978 photo. However, a noticeable problem, you're going to have to can the infobox because the section is cluttered badly. At some point, the line should probably be split off with a full Reading history. Mitch32(User:Mitchazenia User talk:Mitchazenia) 14:39, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
- I saw, thanx. That is great, much appreciated. And agreed, the article ballooned more than I thought it would. Should be split into four separate one point.Oanabay04 (talk) 18:19, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
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- Hi. I had not realized I had done that, as I aimed to use the entry from Drury's book as a guide. Yes, I would be glad to rewrite the article. Thanks for catching that. Oanabay04 (talk) 02:18, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
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I fixed an article you gutted, Leonor F. Loree. Unquestionably, much of the previous article was improper, personalized notes and email addresses so tear out half of that material made perfect sense, but most of that is pretty easy to source as well as he is unquestionably a notable person and exactly the type we want articles on. Please be more selective when doing stuff like that. Facts that aren't really contentious and likely can be left in but tagged {{fact}}. Gutting it down to just a couple of lists isn't really helping the reader. Dennis - 2¢ 15:16, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
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Hi. We do put in "lobby card" or "film poster" as that's what the field is used for, per WP:OBVIOUS. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 18:46, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
- Hi. Disagree when it is in the infobox. Movie posters, lobby cards, one-sheets. All the same WP:BLUE.Oanabay04 (talk) 18:48, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
- WP:BLUE is an essay. The infobox template has the guidance you seek. You need to raise this with WT:FILM, per WP:BRD (you were bold, I reverted you, you need to discuss this). Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 18:51, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
- I do not waste my time in edit wars when articles are reduced to a Grade 1 level, Mr. Laurent. WP:BLUE clearly states, particularly in photos, do not state the obvious. Most movie infoboxes do not list "lobby card" under the lobby card, unless there is something glaring about it (misspelling, wrong year, misprint).Have a good one.Oanabay04 (talk) 18:58, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
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Block extended
Hello Onabay04. I have extended your block to two more weeks, as you have been evading your block by editing while logged out. While I am here, I want to tell you a bit about our non-free content requirements for images. For movie articles, we normally include a copy of the poster or lobby card in the info box, and that's all. We don't include additional non-free images unless they meet all ten of the non-free content requirements, which are listed at Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria#Policy. The still shots from the Stooges films don't meet these requirements, in particular failing #1 (the image has to tell us something that can't be described using words alone) and #8 (the image has to greatly increase our understanding of the subject of the article). This in an official Wikipedia policy, not a guideline, not a suggestion, so you should not be breaking this policy, and definitely should not be evading an block to do so. Continuing down your present course will likely lead to further and lengthier blocks. -- Diannaa (talk) 19:22, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
- I have been evading my block? How so? I have not been on Wiki since the block nor do I intended to make any significant edits in the future. Photos are articles that have been created more than five years ago are now being chopped to shreds so why waste time? I did notice that other users have been restoring the extensive work that has been done. I would be glad to remove tons of pictures from movie pages that do not meet non-free content requirements since most of them have these. If Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead is so convinced that all these unregistered users are making similar changes to articles that I have worked on, then maybe Wikipedia should either 1) rewrite their archaic photo rules 2) not allow unregistered users to make changes 3) not allow admins to take the ravings of a paranoid lunatic at face value and block users at random. If Lugnuts truly believes I am everywhere all at once (who has time for such frivolity?), then Wiki has a foolish cultish reputation it richly deserves. Thank you kindly.Oanabay04 (talk) 04:14, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry you feel you have been treated unfairly. However, one of the IPs was the one recently blocked as a result of the sockpuppetry filing, and as soon as its block wore off it resumed the same activity that your named account had been pursuing. The other geolocates to the same geographic area, and was doing the same edits as well. If you feel Wikipedia's non-free content policy needs work, you are welcome to try to get it changed when your block expires. However, as this is a long-standing policy with legal considerations, change is unlikely. -- Diannaa (talk) 05:01, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you for your response.Oanabay04 (talk) 15:42, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
- You may have noticed me adding
{{non-free reduce}}
tags to some of your film poster images lately. This is just a coincidence, it's a routine maintenance task I have been working on lately, and is unrelated to your block. -- Diannaa (talk) 01:46, 14 August 2015 (UTC)- Ok, no problem. Just so I am clear (as I want to do this right), I was under the impression that adding an overall Template:Non-free use rationale or one that was more specific like WP:TAGS/FU. Please advise if this will right at least part of the issue. I did notice that the unregistered user who restored most of the images revised the corresponding captions to make them more informative (#8 - the image has to increase our understanding of the subject of the article). Your thoughts. Thanks. Oshabuh (talk) 15:53, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
- Adding informative captions or changing the templating on the file page does not solve the problem. While we do have the convention that a copy of the film poster should be used in the info box for films, and the album cover for records, there's no free pass to include a second non-free image. The image(s) need to be critically discussed in the body of the article, and pass along information that cannot be conveyed using words alone (WP:NFCC criterion #1). A minimum amount of non-free content needs to be used in each article (NFCC #3). Photos cannot be added purely for decoration, and must greatly increase our understanding of the subject of the article (NFCC #8).
A good example of effective use of non-free content is the article Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It) (a featured article). There's two non-free files in the body of the article. The first is the sound file, File:Singleladies.ogg, which illustrates points made in the body of the article and also has an enlightening caption. The second non-free image is File:Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It) screenshot.jpg, which is a screen shot from the music video. The text notes that the video has been compared by analysts to a famous Bob Fosse routine that was seen on the Ed Sullivan show (excerpts of the Ed Sullivan clip are available on YouTube if you are interested in comparing them yourself). Compare this usage to (for example) False Alarms (1936 film) and you will see the difference. --Diannaa (talk) 16:17, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
- It turns out I have been talking to yet another block-evading sockpuppet. Your account has been blocked indefinitely. If you wish to appeal this block, please use the template provided on the block template below. -- Diannaa (talk) 18:21, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
- This is quite embarrassing. I am now looking at this Oshabuh account. I regret to inform you that this is not me (Oanabay04) but rather is a co-worker who purposely created an additional account at the same company where I work. We both share the same IP address (66.161.120.11) as well, as do approximately 5,000 other employees. Please do not hesitate to retain the block on the Oshabuh and IP 66.161.120.11 accounts, as I suspect he will continue to wreak havoc on several articles I have worked on. (I see he took advantage of someone when restoring images on the laugh track, an article I contribute extensively to). Please alert me if I need to appeal this block at a high level. Again, my sincerest apologies. I suspect this is quite hard to stomach. Even I am beside myself with this. I may not agree with all of Wiki's photo policies but I do want to work to adhere to them. Sockpuppeting is not one of those ways. Thank you kindly.Oanabay04 (talk) 00:02, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
- It turns out I have been talking to yet another block-evading sockpuppet. Your account has been blocked indefinitely. If you wish to appeal this block, please use the template provided on the block template below. -- Diannaa (talk) 18:21, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
- Adding informative captions or changing the templating on the file page does not solve the problem. While we do have the convention that a copy of the film poster should be used in the info box for films, and the album cover for records, there's no free pass to include a second non-free image. The image(s) need to be critically discussed in the body of the article, and pass along information that cannot be conveyed using words alone (WP:NFCC criterion #1). A minimum amount of non-free content needs to be used in each article (NFCC #3). Photos cannot be added purely for decoration, and must greatly increase our understanding of the subject of the article (NFCC #8).
- Ok, no problem. Just so I am clear (as I want to do this right), I was under the impression that adding an overall Template:Non-free use rationale or one that was more specific like WP:TAGS/FU. Please advise if this will right at least part of the issue. I did notice that the unregistered user who restored most of the images revised the corresponding captions to make them more informative (#8 - the image has to increase our understanding of the subject of the article). Your thoughts. Thanks. Oshabuh (talk) 15:53, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
- You may have noticed me adding
- Thank you for your response.Oanabay04 (talk) 15:42, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry you feel you have been treated unfairly. However, one of the IPs was the one recently blocked as a result of the sockpuppetry filing, and as soon as its block wore off it resumed the same activity that your named account had been pursuing. The other geolocates to the same geographic area, and was doing the same edits as well. If you feel Wikipedia's non-free content policy needs work, you are welcome to try to get it changed when your block expires. However, as this is a long-standing policy with legal considerations, change is unlikely. -- Diannaa (talk) 05:01, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
. Diannaa (talk) 18:21, 14 August 2015 (UTC)Oanabay04 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
This is quite embarrassing. I am now looking at this Oshabuh account. I regret to inform you that this is not me (Oanabay04) but rather is a co-worker who purposely created an additional account at the same company where I work. We both share the same IP address (66.161.120.11) as well, as do approximately 5,000 other employees. Please do not hesitate to retain the block on the Oshabuh and IP 66.161.120.11 accounts, as I suspect he will continue to wreak havoc on several articles I have worked on. (I see he took advantage of someone when restoring images on the laugh track, an article I contribute extensively to). Please alert me if I need to appeal this block at a high level. Again, my sincerest apologies. I suspect this is quite hard to stomach. Even I am beside myself with this. I may not agree with all of Wiki's photo policies but I do want to work to adhere to them. Sockpuppeting is not one of those ways. Thank you kindly.Oanabay04 (talk) 00:02, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
Decline reason:
This explanation is less convincing than "my little brother did it." OhNoitsJamie Talk 04:36, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
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Not as good as what Wiki is best known for: WP:ROGUE. Throw in a little this [ http://www.dailydot.com/business/wikipedia-editors-decline-wikimedia-fellows/ Wikipedia losing editors]. I would think that Wiki would want to retain quality editors who may have an occasional lapse of judgement. Thank you kindly. Oanabay04 (talk) 06:19, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
Disputed non-free use rationale for File:Punchdrunks.jpg
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