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September 30

How to change user name after legal name change?

We changed our first name by court decree. How do we change our user name? We tried creating a new user account with our new first name, but Wikipedia recognized our existing account and said the two names are too similar to allow it. No, we are not going to hide behind a pseudonym. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nigel Self (talk • contribs) 03:43, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

@Nigel Self: check out WP:CHU, but don't try to rename yourself, as it won't work as you intent. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 05:04, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

@Nigel Self: as an alternative to actually changing your username, you could create the new, similar one -- per WP:IMPERSONATOR see WP:RAC -- and then use it appropriately as described in WP:MULTIPLE and WP:VALIDALT. -- ToE 18:54, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

translation into English

Hello I was asked to translate and article regarding a person in the Italian wikipedia into english... I followed all the instructions but the article in English only appears with the word comes Draft: in front and I cannot link it to the Italian page under languages as the instructions say one should. Any advice? where did I wrong? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marinapet (talk • contribs) 09:13, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Your draft has not been submitted for AFC review, but there would be no point in submitting it in its current form as you have provided no references. Perhaps you didn't read the advice at WP:Your first article? --David Biddulph (talk) 09:17, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Cecilia Carreri does have references. However it doesn't cite any of them, as is required in en:Wikipedia. Maproom (talk) 09:50, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Citing Sources

For many years I used a template(?) for citing sources. I've lost track of it and I'm trying to find it. I would access it via an icon on my desktop. As I remember, it had versions for books, articles, etc. It included a bunch of fields that I would fill in as best I could. When I was finished, I'd push a button and it would generate a compact inline reference that I could include in my article. It was widely used at the time, and as I recall had some sort of endorsement by Wikipedia. It had somebody's name associated with it, perhaps a Germanic name. The compact reference looked like this:

<ref name=DBV>{{cite book|last1=Gunter|first1=Donald W.|title=Dictionary of Virginia Biography, Volume 2|date=2001|publisher=Library of Virginia|isbn=0884901998|pages=509–510}}<!--|accessdate=30 November 2015--></ref>

Who can help me find this needle in a haystack? Lou Sander (talk) 12:56, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

There should be a "Cite" dropdown leading to a "Templates" dropdown in the toolbar at the top of your edit window. If you haven't got that, other editors may be able to suggest which preferences you may need to correct. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:06, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

This isn't exactly what I'm looking for, but it's close. There aren't as many fields as what I had, but it's sure easier to get to! Lou Sander (talk) 13:17, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi

Please repair the book I have added in the "Further reading" section at the bottom of this page. I got it wrong - please leave in quote. Thanks 175.32.141.99 (talk) 13:10, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

You need to change the closing tag from <ref/> to </ref>. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:01, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

The addition has been removed as lacking relevance but as it wasn't a ref you needed to remove the opening tag and not add the malformed closing, as you did after asking here. Eagleash (talk) 01:40, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Cultural impact of Michael Jackson: Revision history

I just tried to nominate this for deletion& for some reason my nomination has been appended to a previous deletion discussion for this page. Can anybody sort out this snafu, I'd be very grateful.TheLongTone (talk) 15:05, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

TheLongTone, The guidance is Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion#How_to_nominate_a_single_page_for_deletion. In this case the NominationName should be "Cultural impact of Michael Jackson (2nd nomination)". TSventon (talk) 15:57, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Twinkle is good at allowing you to do all 3 parts of the AFD nomination process. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:47, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

David Biddulph Does Twinkle prompt you to add "2nd nomination" where necessary? TheLongTone was using Page Curation which seems to be similar. TSventon (talk) 16:58, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Twinkle handles second and subsequent nominations properly and without additional prompting. Page Curation does not, resulting in the problems TLT encountered. Only real solution here is to revert the PC edits on the article, the discussion page, and the daily log and redo it using Twinkle or by hand. Everything there is now back to status quo ante and a proper renomination can proceed by non-Page Curation means. --Finngall ^talk 17:52, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

I made the attempt to nominate for deletion using Twinkle...TheLongTone (talk) 15:26, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

How to get an article re-reviewed for it’s quality?

How do I get an article re-reviewed on it’s quality assessment scale, especially if it has been significantly improved? Who will do that?VaibhavafroTalk 15:44, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

@Vaibhavafro: Anyone can review an article up to B class (beyond that, it has to have an independent review). If you direct me to the article, I am happy to do it for you. Regards, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 16:33, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

@Willbb234: This article please. Thanks-VaibhavafroTalk 16:43, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

 Done C-class. Wikiproject military history doesn't allow C-class though, for some reason so that is a start class. Thanks, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 16:59, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

@Willbb234: There definitely is a category for C class, but it appears the description text for C and Start class on this wikiproject are mixed up! I thought i'd try a different WP template until I realised this was the case. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:18, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Sorry I botched two of the REFs when editing page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordechai_Vanunu - Sorry I failed to amend it (and save the editing). - Can anyone help?

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Sorry I botched two of the REFs when editing page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordechai_Vanunu - Sorry I failed to amend it (and save the editing). - Can anyone help?

I've fixed a couple of referencing errors in the lead of Mordechai Vanunu.   Maproom (talk) 21:36, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

I did some cite cleanups in the article. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 22:29, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

I wish <ENTER> in edit summary wouldn't publish changes

I often accidentally hit the enter key while typing an edit summary, publishing the change and recording an incomplete & unproofread summary. Is there a way to disable this, so that clicking the "Publish change" button is required? Preferences / Editing gives "Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary" (and thanks to whoever created that) but doesn't seem to offer this option. -- ToE 18:38, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

@Thinking of England: Yes, there's a script for this - User:Anomie/nosubmitsummary.js -- John of Reading (talk) 19:10, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Works great! Thanks. -- ToE 20:16, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

I am the subject of a page that is woefully out-of-date and incomplete.

Hello,

My name is Chris Morrissey. I am a musician who lives somewhere in the nebulous world of "notable enough to have had someone create a page a long time ago, but not enough to have it maintained." I'm not interested in editing myself, and I don't know who created it, but as it has existed for a long time, I hoped if I logged an issue with a page about me here, that someone here could help. Please advise. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.246.236.3 (talk) 20:48, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

@96.246.236.3: Courtesy link Chris Morrissey Hi Chris - The challenge in getting your article updated is that there are few reliable sources of media coverage that I can find about you, with a simple Google search. Articles that were uploaded in 2006 were not subject to the same amount of vetting as articles today. It's very possible that in a case of unintended consequences, without more third party media coverage about you from which to update the information, and indeed even source what is there now, your article might be nominated for deletion. If you've gotten media coverage, please add the links to the talk page so that others can review and see what can be done. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 21:11, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Template?

Recently I placed a BLP up for AFD; not realizing that it was not lack of notability but lack of content representation and poor writing / research within the article itself. I plan to update the article as best I can; but I wonder if there is a template that can be placed (temporarily) so that other editors can contribute / update / improve the content as well to better reflect the BLP's notability? Thanks in advance. Maineartists (talk) 21:32, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

@Maineartists: You can add the Template:Copy edit and Template:refimprove templates to get others to copy edit and improve references. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 22:51, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Hey @Timtempleton: Thanks! Maineartists (talk) 23:57, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Is it acceptable to use hyphens "[t]o separate parts of an item [o]n a list"?

The Manual of Style says that dashes are "sometimes used" for this, but I've often seen hyphens used instead. Could anyone please tell me if hyphens are ever acceptable for this? Also, sorry if the title of this post is confusing; I'm quoting the Manual of Style for it.--Thylacine24 (talk) 22:25, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

If I've correctly understood our MOS, then no, hyphens are not acceptable to separate items in a list. It is common to see them used in print where an endash would be more appropriate, but in Wikipedia this is allowed only in redirects, for the convenience of searchers who can't type an endash. Dbfirs 07:07, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Oh. So I was wrong to replace hyphens with en dashes in character lists, then revert those edits? Sometimes I really hate the fact that I can edit this website. (No offense to you.)--Thylacine24 (talk) 14:15, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Really, sorry if that answer came off as rude.--Thylacine24 (talk) 23:22, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Turning Wikipedia URL into a Wikilink?

Occassionally, I will grab the URL of a Wikipedia article and put into double brackets like this: [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automattic]]. This renders like this: [[1]], when of course what I really want is this Automattic. Is there anyway to get the Wikipedia parser to recognize the URL leads to Wikipedia and convert it into a Wikilink instead of showing as a URL link? RudolfRed (talk) 23:26, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: Have you tried [[Automattic]]? HeartGlow30797 (talk) 01:05, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

RudolfRed: URL's can just go in Wikitext as they are, and will appear with a link. If you want different text to appear, use single brackets. But for links within Wikipedia, just use the page name (not the URL) in double brackets, as HeartGlow showed. --ColinFine (talk) 09:02, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: Yes, the Wikipedia parser could be changed in the way you suggest, but I doubt if any developer would want to spend the time on it. You could try to gain support for the idea by posting at the Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab). In the mean time, articles containing this syntax error are reported as Checkwiki error 86, so a bot or helpful gnome would probably get round to fixing it eventually. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:21, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

October 1

Alex Mapelli-Mozzi

Please fix ref number 12 - it is a book - and leave in quote. sorry Thanks 175.32.141.99 (talk) 02:06, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Not sure but it appears as if in this diff, the error was fixed. 2600:387:5:803:0:0:0:7A (talk) 03:13, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Deleted page

Hello. My page named "Aifa mfa2" was deleted for an unknown reason. It is the official page of the Azerbaijan International Development Agency (AIDA) under the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Azerbaijan. Could you please provide any information on that and restore my page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aida mfa2 (talk • contribs) 06:52, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

The page Azerbaijan International Development Agency still exists. I can't find any evidence of an article Aifa mfa2. Do you mean your user page? Dbfirs 06:59, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Aida mfa2. I think you have a misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is. The encyclopaedia article Azerbaijan International Development Agency does not belong to the agency, and no Wikipedia article is an "official page". The article should not contain much information that comes from the Agency, but should be almost entirely based on reliably published sources by people unconnected with the agency.

If you work for the agency, then you should stop editing that article, at least until you have read and understood Wikipedia's policies on editing with a conflict of interest, and on paid editing.

I also don't know what you mean by a page "Aifa mfa2": I would guess that you meant your user page User:Aida mfa2, but that does not yet exist, and I can find no evidence that it has been deleted. In any case, your user page is for you to share information (if you wish) about you as a Wikipedia editor, and nothing else. --ColinFine (talk) 09:12, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Yes, I mean the user page. It existed before, the problem is it does not exist now and I don't know how that is possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aida mfa2 (talk • contribs) 11:44, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

This is the English Wikipedia. You never had a user page here at User:Aida mfa2. Maybe you are thinking of the Azerbaijani Wikipedia. A page at az:User:Aida mfa2 was deleted. Each language has its own logs and user pages. You can also make a Wikipedia:Global user page. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:27, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi

I have accidently removed the info box on this page. Sorry — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.33.248.139 (talk) 07:13, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

 Fixed -- John of Reading (talk) 07:15, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Removing my dads year of birth and age

Hello,

My dad is listed on wikipedia with his birth date and it makes him a bit upset and also potentially negatively effects his work . I was wondering if it was possible to get the year of birth and his age removed (it is fine to keep the day and month). If you could let me know how to proceed with doing this i would be very grateful.

Kind Regards,

Chloe — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.253.68.203 (talk) 11:11, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

If you give us a wikilink to the article in question we can see whether the date of birth is referenced to a published reliable source. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:35, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clive_Tickner — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.253.68.203 (talk) 13:20, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

This Help desk is for the English Wikipedia. Requests concerning the German Wikipedia need to be made there, not here, but they might perhaps take the view that because the information is already published on IMdB there would be little point in removing it from Wikipedia. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:26, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Even if it was on the English Language Wikipedia, it would probably stay since the month and year can be referenced to https://books.google.com/books?id=PKQlCgAAQBAJ&pg=PA56&lpg=PA56 which came out in 2015 and the initial creation of the German Language Wikipedia page is in 2016. I'm not sure where imdb got the day of the month. Naraht (talk) 13:53, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Note Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Privacy of personal information and using primary sources. Each Wikipedia language makes its own policies. See de:Wikipedia:Artikel über lebende Personen#Weniger bekannte Personen for German. From Google Translate: "Many people with encyclopaedic relevance, but not greater prominence or prominence, do not want to publish their personal data (date and place of birth, place of residence, marital status, etc.) because they see their privacy threatened or have professional disadvantages. However, it happens that, without the intervention of the person concerned, such information has been leaked to the public, for which evidence can then also be found. If complaints are made, the information will be removed on a case-by-case basis if it is to be assumed that the publication constitutes an inadmissible interference with the privacy of the person or if the person is suffering not only insignificant damage." The German Wikipedia has a help desk at de:Wikipedia:Fragen zur Wikipedia. Many of their editors speak English. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:13, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Reason for my content deletion

Hello,

I have added "Coffee painting" under the article about painting. But it is missing now. Kindly help me to revert it back. Thanks in advance!

--SudhaNandhini (talk) 11:46, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

It would have been helpful if the editor who reverted your edits had used your user talk page and/or an edit summary to explain the reason for the reversion, but it is noticeable that your addition was unsourced, so if you try the edit again you need to include a reference to a published reliable source to satisfy Wikipedia's requirement for verifiability. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:59, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

@SudhaNandhini: wikiHow is not an acceptable source per WP:SELFPUBLISH. "Main article" is only for other articles in the English Wikipedia here at https://en.wikipedia.org. We are not affiliated with wikiHow, one of thousands of unrelated wikis. A wiki is just a type of website. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:41, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

article

how to create articles on wikipedia's — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amirpatel331 (talk • contribs) 12:23, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Amirpatel331, see Wp:FIRST for advice on your first article, and either WP:TUTORIAL or WP:ADVENTURE for general editing tips. GirthSummit _(blether) 14:45, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

US DOS border maps

Would the maps on this site (https://fall.fsulawrc.com/collection/LimitsinSeas/numericalibs.html) be free to use on Wikipedia under the 'fair use' rule? Sdrawkcab (talk) 15:59, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

@Sdrawkcab: Looks like those documents are created by the US Government, so copyright does not apply. RudolfRed (talk) 16:28, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

ok, thanks! Sdrawkcab (talk) 18:19, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

I'm not convinced that is true for all of them, RudolfRed. The PDFs that I have looked at (which don't contain maps) say they were prepared by the "Office of the Geographer, Bureau of Intelligence and Research, Department of State", but many of the maps themselves do not appear to have an origin noted. Most of them have a consistent presentation, which probably is from the Office of the Geographer, but some are in entirely different style, and are most unlikely to originate with the US Government (see in particular the Libya/Algeria maps). I suspect that they are all in the public domain, those ones by reason of age; but I think it would be important to investigate further, Sdrawkcab, and check that the ones you want to use are indeed Public domain.

If they are not, then you may be able to follow your original plan and use them as non-free; but Wikipedia's rules for this are more restrictive than general "fair use" rules: you would need to show that the use met all the terms in the non-free content criteria. --ColinFine (talk) 23:00, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

ok I’ll take a look thanks Sdrawkcab (talk) 23:12, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Request page deletion

There is too much information about my personal profile. Request the page be deleted. Thank you, Samuel P. De Bow, Jr.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_P._De_Bow_Jr. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1003:B022:C596:654F:3224:E4B6:F0E9 (talk) 17:47, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Samuel P. De Bow Jr. cites no sources, and much of it is copied from https://web.archive.org/web/20070507031733/http://www.omao.noaa.gov/biodebow.html (though as the original of that site is controlled by the US government there may be no copyvio involved). Maproom (talk) 18:05, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

In a Wikitable, is there a way to combine "colspan" and "rowspan" on the same cell entry?

In a Wikitable, is there a way to combine "colspan" and "rowspan" on the same cell entry?

Let's say that I want the cell entry to span across 3 columns (horizontally) and also across 5 rows (vertically).

I tried all of the following ... nothing seemed to work.

| colspan="3" rowspan="5" | My text. ( I placed no punctuation between the colspan and the rowspan elements. )

| colspan="3" | rowspan="5" | My text. ( I placed the punctuation of the vertical bar between the colspan and the rowspan elements. )

| colspan="3" ! rowspan="5" | My text. ( I placed the punctuation of the exclamation point between the colspan and the rowspan elements. )

Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 20:19, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Try this Help:Table#Combined_use_of_COLSPAN_and_ROWSPAN - X201 (talk) 21:05, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

The first code is correct, e.g. in this table:

My text. ( I placed no punctuation between the colspan and the rowspan elements. )			1
			2
			3
			4
			5
a	b	c	d

If you want to know what is wrong with an edit then link the actual edit or post the whole code. I couldn't find it in your recent contributions. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:41, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Thanks. I will provide the link to the actual edit. I can't do so, at the moment. But, I will do so soon. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 14:06, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: OK. Here it is. Please see this page: User:Joseph A. Spadaro/Sandbox/Page126. The top chart is "before modification"; the second chart is "after modification" (whatever modifications you add). I want the very final, bottom row to have a "rowspan" of 2 ... so that it is twice as high (twice as tall). Also, I just noticed that the "sorting" capability is not working correctly. Do you know why that is? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 14:16, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

If I understand it correctly, putting rowspan=2 in the last row of the table won't do anything. What rowspan=2 will do is combine the cell in which it is placed with the corresponding cell in the following row. If there is no following row there will be no effect. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:24, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: and @David Biddulph: Great ... thanks! Also, I just noticed that the "sorting" capability is not working correctly. Do you know why that is? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 15:34, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Please say what you mean by something not working, i.e. in what way it doesn't behave as you expect. If you mean sortbottom wasn't working in one of the rows then it was placed wrong.[2] A table row only has one line starting with "|-". Earlier lines are ignored. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:33, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Yes, that was exactly the "issue" ... about the "sortbottom" not seeming to work properly. (Which you fixed.) Thanks for all the help! Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:20, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

October 2

Publish date

Where do I find the publish dates in the artictles — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.215.181.78 (talk) 03:06, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

The date of publication for an article is usually found near the top of the page, above the text of the article, in small print.--Quisqualis (talk) 03:08, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Wait, what? I've never seen that. Sounds like a script or something maybe? What you need to do is click on the "View history" tab at the top of the article, then click the button for "oldest" That will show you who created the page and when. Beeblebrox (talk) 03:20, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

... and at the foot of the page it says: "This page was last edited on ..." --David Biddulph (talk) 03:22, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

• Comment: Is the OP asking about Wikipedia articles or sources? Eagleash (talk) 03:24, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

If you want the publication date of a Wikipedia article in order to cite the article in an external work then see Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:42, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref

Hello Re- the article "Van Morrison" Under the sub-heading "Influences" - my apologies, I've accidentally deleted something in the section on German painter Johannes Heisig while trying to add a paragraph on poet Homer Rieth. Despite a number of efforts to do so I can't correct the problem. Can you please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Homermrieth (talk • contribs) 03:46, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

@Homermrieth:  Fixed a closing ref tag was missing the final '>' and a stray ref tag found its way into the ref after the opening curly brackets. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 04:08, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

How long does it take to review a contribution draft?

I have submitted a contribution 8 weeks ago, yet it's still in the "draft:" tag, meaning not published yet. I would like to know how long it is going to take, and if I could request for a shorter period for the review. Thank you. --YUTOpia ptg (talk) 04:55, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

@YUTOpia ptg: the backlog is currently about 5 months. And no, there is no way to make things go faster. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 05:55, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

The review is likely to be slower because all the references are in Japanese. This is not wrong, but it means that a reviewer who does not read Japanese has to translate everything to check. Dbfirs 06:42, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

How do I publish a new page?

Hello everyone,

I am new to Wikipedia and I just published this article on my sandbox on a hotelier and a businessman. The profile doesn't exist yet on Wikipedia and I was wondering what's the best way to get it published? I am sorry I am a newbie so please forgive me for my lack of knowledge in this space. My article link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ahmedbench/sandbox — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmedbench (talk • contribs) 07:21, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Ahmedbench Hello . I would correct your language slightly in that Wikipedia does not have "profiles", it has articles. You can use Articles for Creation to submit your draft for a review before it is formally placed in the encyclopedia. This way you can get feedback on it first. I would say from a quick look that there is some promotional language that will need to be removed("Exciting new events are planned for Europe in 2020 which will be revealed soon" for example).

The language of the draft suggests to me that you might have some sort of association with Mr. Worsley; if you do, you will need to read and comply with the conflict of interest and paid editing policies(the latter is a Wikipedia Terms of Use requirement if you have a paid relationship). 331dot (talk) 07:59, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Ahmedbench. In addition to what 331dot says (and the fact that your username includes 'bench', which also suggests you have a connection) I don't see anything in the sources in your draft which is independent, substantial, and about Worsley. Most of the references are about Bench, not about Worsley; and on a quick look it seems to me that most of them come from Bench or associated organisation, or are based on press releases from Bench. Please understand that, for an article about Worsley or Bench, Wikipedia basically has no interest in anything said or published by Bench or associated organisations, including things said in interviews or press releases. It is only interested in what people who have no connection with Worsley and Bench have chosen to publish about them in reliable sources, and any article should be based almost entirely on such sources. It follows that if there are few or no such independent sources, then it is impossible at present to write an acceptable article about them: the Wikipedia jargon for this is that they are not notable|. --ColinFine (talk) 15:16, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Please also read the messages on your user talk page about copyright violation. --David Biddulph (talk) 03:04, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Problem opening a page

Why does this entry show on Google, but when clicked on refuses to open? www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Hawdon — Preceding unsigned comment added by James Oldroyd (talk • contribs) 16:53, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

You can't have both the "www" and the "en" in the URL. It has to be just be "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Hawdon". At least that was what was wrong for me. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 17:07, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Because that URL doesn't exist, James Oldroyd. The URL is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Hawdon, without the 'www.' on the front. Google for some reason has the URL wrong. (I wondered if Wikimedia had recently withdrawn a previously existing www.en.wikipedia domain, but I see that somebody asked a similar question two years ago.) --ColinFine (talk) 17:06, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Two years ago I was referring to Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2017 May 31#Search engines adding a "www" to wikipage. The user indicated they had the problem at Google but I could only reproduce it at Bing and Yahoo. It's exactly the same now: James Oldroyd and ColinFine are apparently seeing the problem at Google but I'm only seeing it at Bing and Yahoo. Exactly which search engine url are you seeing the problem at? I see it at bing.com and search.yahoo.com but not google.com. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:38, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Actually, PrimeHunter, I've remembered I don't use Google, but Ecosia. According to our article, "Search results for Ecosia are now provided by Microsoft Bing, enhanced by the company's own algorithms." --ColinFine (talk) 21:06, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

User Deleted-Cannot login- User Page No longer Available

Perhaps you might direct me to the procedure to edit or restore original User pages? I have been a Wikipedia user for more than 12 years, however LisaKachold was ignored (even without creating old versions), while these Landscape features were contended, it had been removed, except that the user exists but is somehow suspended or locked? I also accessed Wikipedia through my business account (used by Volunteers of my 501(3)c. The obnosis wiki account also worked toward equality within noteworthy pages of men vs women. I was variously attacked as a "sockpuppet" without warrant. Ami Muramato's refusal to repair and fail to respond to internal water damage caused by HOA negligence, that was ence that I can uch later while considering relocation, and competing via cascading interviews for Wikipedia's parent company's DevOps Engineer position and other similar internal damage that was covered by the last Board, including the HOA loss. The last entry on the LisaKachold talk page: '''05:53, 30 July 2019 Scottywong talk contribs deleted page User:LisaKachold (Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:LisaKachold (XFDcloser)) Tag: PHP7 (thank)''' I had logged in using 'LisaKachold' account after 13 March 2019, as investigation history indicates. Could you please unblock the LisaKachold and obnosis user accounts, so we can continue to contribute to Wikipedia? Please direct us to the procedure or documentation for restoring Deleted User pages repair HOA Insurance covers most of the existing damage? — Preceding unsigned comment added by LisaKachold (talk • contribs) 17:05, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

• Hello Lisa,

Your userpage was deleted in July as it was found to not conform to Wikipedia's policies. If you'd like to make a new one you'll have to follow those policies and guidelines. As for an unblock, you'll have to contact the administrator who blocked you, and failing that request an unblock. Either way, this is not the place to ask for one. Have a good day!

– John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 17:11, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

EDIT: You do not appear to be blocked at this time. You can still log in and edit Wikipedia without having a userpage. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 17:15, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

LisaKachold, your account is not blocked. If it was, you would not be able to post here. You can create a new user page, but it must be about you as a Wikipedia editor, not an imitation encylopedia article. Please read WP: AUTOBIOGRAPHY. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 17:17, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Hello, LisaKachold. I'm sorry you are having a difficult time; but it appears to me that you (like many people) have a number of misconceptions about Wikipedia. Some of those I think I see are:

• There is no connection whatever between a user name and the articles that account edits; except that, since writing about yourself in a Wikipedia article is strongly discouraged, people are likely to look closely at it when somebody edits an article with the same name as their user name.
• You do not need to have a user page; but if you do, there are some limitations on what may go there, detailed at user pages. It must not appear to be an article; and while its contents should relate to you, they should relate to you as a Wikipedia editor. There is latitude for a small amount of information about you outside your work in Wikipedia, but if the page is mostly about that, this may fall foul of NOTWEBHOST. (I can't see the deleted user page, as I am not an admin, so I don't know what you put on there).
• Each Wikipedia account must be personal to a single individual (who may use their real name for the account, as I do, but may choose a pseudonym). Sharing of accounts is forbidden. Equally, you should not normally edit from more than one account yourself (though there are some circumstances where this is permitted: see SOCKLEGIT). That is why somebody thought one of your accounts was a sockpuppet.

It sounds as if you and your associates are trying to provide valuable input to Wikipedia; but you do need to understand how it works before you plunge in. Please see What Wikipedia is not, Autobiography and Your first article. --ColinFine (talk) 17:32, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Creating a page for our company website

Hello, I am part of the LCEC Lee County Electric Company in Southwest Florida public relations team and I am trying to start a web-page on Wikipedia for our company. I was curious if I would be able to copy and paste from our website, since we are the the team that runs the website and wrote the sections on there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:LCEC_(Lee_County_Electric_Company)&action=edit https://www.lcec.net/about-lcec — Preceding unsigned comment added by LeeCountyCoop (talk • contribs) 20:28, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

No, you can't do that. This is an encyclopedia, not a place to promote your business. RudolfRed (talk) 20:34, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia is NOT a promotional website, and needs to be unopiniated and to inform. As well, it does have to be notable. Thank you! HeartGlow30797 (talk) 21:29, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

LeeCountyCoop, just to add on to this, if you're copying and pasting text that you own to Wikipedia, that constitutes a permanent and irrevocable release of the copyright of that text under Wikipedia's licenses. After that, anyone can edit and redistribute the text. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 21:56, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Glynn Wolfe

The first picture that comes up when you google Glynn Wolfe is my father in law, Glynn Arthur Wolfe not Scotty Glynn Wolfe. Could you please remove my father in laws picture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.90.5.204 (talk) 22:02, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi there IP. Unfortunately, Wikipedia does not control Google Search results. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 22:03, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

The Wikipedia article for Glynn Wolfe does not contain an image. Google draws information from multiple sources and often displays it in a way that implies it comes from Wikipedia. We have no control over this, as Hickory states, but there is a feedback link at the base of the panel in the Google search results. Eagleash (talk) 22:07, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

India

Great to see a non-American centric article on the main page. However is there a way to make the pictures normal size for my desktop PC? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:8D80:569:B751:41BB:A986:F6BA:3DCF (talk) 22:11, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Dear IP, All pictures other than two panoramic ones are now down to default size, 220px. Thank you for your concern and your contribution. I hope this was helpful. Best regards, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 14:14, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

October 3

Starred Articles

Hi Wiki, there is a page where all favorite articles save to, I've searched the net for the right place to find a complete list of all starred pages but all of them point to the edit or watchlist, which is not what I am looking for, I do not edit or watch pages in anyway, I just want a complete list of all my bookmarks, where is this page? Thanks for your help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daveindus (talk • contribs) 01:35, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia doesn't have bookmarks as such. Apart from the watchlist, which you say you aren't using, you can (if you wish) use a page in your user space to store wikilinks to pages which you wish to be able to get to, but otherwise it sounds as if you may have been using a "bookmark" or "favorite" feature in your web browser, in which case the data isn't stored in Wikipedia but on your computer. The place that it will be stored may well vary between browsers and between settings on your machine. WP:Reference desk/Computing may be able to help. --David Biddulph (talk) 02:15, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

​If you have clicked on a star here on Wikipedia, the page has been added to your watchlist, you can see a list of all your watchlisted pages here: Special:EditWatchlist (can be found through clicking "Watchlist→Edit your list of watched pages"). If you have clicked on a star in your browser, you can find it under Bookmarks, such as in Chrome's "Bookmarks→Bookmark manager". – Thjarkur (talk) 01:57, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

when will article be reviewed and accepted

I have created a new article, first in the Sandbox, then oopied and pasted the corrected edited version, and clicked on publish. what happens next? I see the entry when I go to my user page, but I don't see it when I search in Wikipedia... thANKS — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michaelfeuer (talk • contribs) 08:37, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Michaelfeuer You edited your user page, which is not article space and will not show up in search(unless you put "User:" as well). Your user page is a place to introduce yourself to the Wikipedia community in the context of your Wikipedia editing or use. You can submit a draft using Articles for Creation, but your article would not be accepted as it is basically a resume. Wikipedia is not interested in what someone wants to say about themselves, only in what independent reliable sources state about subjects that meet Wikipedia's special definition of notability. Please also read our policy on autobiographies, which are strongly discouraged. 331dot (talk) 08:57, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict)@Michaelfeuer: As far as I can tell what you have created is content at your userpage. This exists for you to tell other editors something about yourself and how you intend to contribute to Wikipedia. It should not contain article-like content and as such is liable to deletion.

If it were to be submitted as a draft article it would be most unlikely to be accepted as it contains no references no inline references and also appears to be an autobiography – please see that page and also here as to why this is not a good idea.

If you are Michael Feuer, or you have any connection to him at all you also need to read WP:COI and WP:PAID and make the necessary declarations. Would also point out that Wikipedia is not a form of social media like Facebook or LinkedIn where a 'profile' can be created. Wikipedia reports on what has been written about a subject in independent reliable sources and has has fairly stringent rules on notability.

Some useful links will be left at your talk page. Please study them carefully before editing further. Please do not ask similar questions in multiple locations. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 09:12, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

new article not showing up on google search

Elle Simone isn't showing up for me on a google search, and I'm wondering if there's a reason, as usually articles show up pretty quickly. --valereee (talk) 09:21, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

New articles are WP:NOINDEXed until they have been reviewed through new pages patrol (or 90 days have expired). More than 5500 articles are awaiting NPP review. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:36, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Showed up for me when I searched for it. (Note; article was auotpatrolled). Eagleash (talk) 09:38, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Obviously; the creator possesses the WP:AP flag. ——SerialNumber54129 09:44, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Eagleash, it shows up when you google Elle Simone, not adding wikipedia to the search? It's still not showing up for me when I google "elle simone". Sorry, should have specified that autopatrolled articles usually show up pretty quickly. Another article I created yesterday is showing up fine. --valereee (talk) 10:55, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

@Valereee: Shows up for me in upper and lower case after googling just the name. Eagleash (talk) 11:47, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, Eagleash. Deeply weird, it shows up for my husband, too, and when I checked it came up on my phone, still doesn't on my laptop. Maybe my browser or google is doing some sort of 'smart' search because I've searched her name so many times while doing my research? --valereee (talk) 12:47, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

It shows for me in all Google searches. Have you tried purging your browser cache? Dbfirs 19:14, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

climate change alarmism

I am disturbed that the post modern Marxist movement has hijacked this organization and used it do disseminate lies and propaganda. Climate change occurs naturally and is not due to the tiny amount of Carbon Dioxide that is added by human activity. Refer to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Happer and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Moore_(consultant) and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_who_disagree_with_the_scientific_consensus_on_global_warming It should be noted that science is not based on consensus but on peer review. Science is not a democracy. The use of the word consensus itself implies a political agenda. I demand that any articles on climate change include links to these pages. It's time to stop the spread of lies and misinformation JD — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:2460:2B70:A98D:4CB7:E130:3F9 (talk) 09:32, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Please discuss article content at the various talk pages. Please see WP:RGW for some relevant information. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 09:43, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Climate change, where the Arbitration Committee ruled that we would side with actual science instead of corporate propaganda. Ian.thomson (talk) 09:48, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

place to request semi-urgent help with an article?

Fall of the Berlin Wall has just been created and is at DYK with a request for November 9th. I'm thinking it's going to get a lot of attention that day, and the creator doesn't have time to take it to GA, and some of the more important sources are offline. Is there any place to go to request help with getting an article into shape? Usually we say no deadlines, but I'm thinking the 30th anniversary could mean a lot of views, and I hate to not get it as polished up as possible. --valereee (talk) 11:01, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

@Onceinawhile and Valereee: Happy days, I've got plenty of material on the subject, which I can send on via GDrive. If I am instructed to send, of course. Nice article though: I'd expect t to be featured material sooner rather than later, although I agree that both GA and FAC are crying out for reviewers. Of which, sadly, due to commitments, I can't be at this point. Cheers, ——SerialNumber54129 12:16, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Serial Number 54129, send away! What do you need from me? --valereee (talk) 12:26, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

@Valereee: Sent ——SerialNumber54129 14:04, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Does the article need expansion for DYK requirements? From the looks of it, it's a WP:SPLIT from the main Berlin Wall article, with this edit. As such, surely it would need to be 5x expanded from that version? It would need to meet 5x before the end of the 10 days requirement, so it would need roughly another ~5000 characters. Not really my subject to be able to add details, but wortyh noting Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:53, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

@Lee Vilenski: correct me if I'm wrong—it's me + math, so perfectly possible probable—but that first edit you link to is 730 words; so 5X expanson would be 3650 words, and it's at 2875 atm. If that's the case, it's a slightly more realistic target  :) ——SerialNumber54129 14:11, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

800 words is roughly 5000 characters. I just wanted to make it aware it's a split, as the DYKhelper wouldn't denote this Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:36, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Reg: My entry under "painting" page got deleted

Hello, Greetings! I am bit new to Wiki editing. I am curious to add about "Coffee painting" which is one of a fast growing painting technique. Today, I added "Coffee painting" under "Painting media" in painting article. But , it got deleted with the reason " Not appropriate for an encyclopedia". I have provided the reliable citations too. Kindly guide me to know what additional details I have to give, to make it appropriate.

Thanks in advance! Thank you for your valuable time in guiding me. SudhaNandhini (talk) 12:13, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

You have three times added unsourced content, and three times your edit has been reverted. It's time to stop edit warring and time to start discussing your suggestion on the talk page of the article. See this guidance. In general, Wikipedia should contain only information that has already been written about in WP:Reliable sources, and these sources should be cited when additions are made to an article. Dbfirs 18:36, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

​The article Painting is about a broad topic covering centuries of development, so even mentioning "coffee paintings" would be undue weight even though the Daily Mail and Times of India have written a bit about it recently. The sentence Coffee painting stimulates the interest towards painting because of its easiness, excellent aroma and appearance is not encyclopedic, see: neutral point of view. The best sources to use on Wikipedia about topics such as paintings are scholarly sources about art history, see: reliable sources. – Thjarkur (talk) 21:02, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

And remember that the Daily Mail is not to be used as a source. RudolfRed (talk) 01:43, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

rowspan does not work

Hello, I was recently editing the List of Billboard Hot 100 number-one singles of 1986 and for whatever reason rowspan does not work properly on the last two lines. It works fine without the dts-template, but not with it.--Lirim | Talk 13:40, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

I have seen errors like this before. I don't know the precise circumstances but have added a fix with a non-displayed row at the bottom.[3] PrimeHunter (talk) 14:56, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

It looks like a bug, but possibly only occurs when using table formatting in a way that it wasn't intended to be used. According to Help:Table, scope="row" is for the first column of a table; here it is used in the second. It's the same when using plain text instead of Template:Dts for the last row. Peter James (talk) 22:05, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

It appears to happen in sortable tables when the last row has both rowspan and a header cell. Simple example:

A	B
C	D
E

I can see it rendering correctly for a moment and then D collapses to one row when the JavaScript for sortable runs.

Original table without sortable:

A	B
C	D
E

Original table without header cells after the top row:

A	B
C	D
E

Original table without rowspan in D:

A	B
C	D1
E	D2

Original table without E being a header cell:

A	B
C	D
E

All tables render correctly for me except the original. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:57, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Translation

I tried to put some translation but it failed and became edition. I read the TRANSLATE US but it does not work well. Would you please help me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hnin Pwint Nanda (talk • contribs) 14:14, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

I don't know what you were trying to do at X1 (band), but I have reverted your failed edit. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:22, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Hnin Pwint Nanda. If you wish to create Burmese text, you need to put it in the Burmese Wikipedia, not anywhere in the English Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 23:19, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2019 Najran attack

Something seems to have gone wrong when this got made. Can anybody fix it? 88.111.193.234 (talk) 16:25, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

I have reformatted the AFD discussion heading and added it to today's list of AFD discussions. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:36, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

wrong latin translation-please f***king change.

This is the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Cestrian_Grammar_School

The school motto reads: as above link: Motto: "Delapsus Resurgam" (When I fall I shall die)

This is wrong! other than a bunch of kids walking around with an emblem associated with death, which by all accounts is wrong.

"Delapsus resurgam" does not, I repeat does not translate to this!

It wasn't this originally on Wikipedia, and now it's changed...

Please correct it, it's offensive to the Great Students that have, are and will continue to become Great Human Beings.

This is what it translates to:

"Delapsus Resurgam" (When I fall, I shall Rise again)

Northcestrain formed just after the end of the second world war. Its Latin emblem is meant to inspire students to keep on trying. We all fall in life, but we keep on regardless because we are fearless and we never stop trying. We never give up.

Please change this. as soon as possible.

Regards,

Nick Carroll. (Former Student of Northcestrain Grammer School) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.7.181.40 (talk) 20:02, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing out the missed vandalism. It has been taken care of. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 20:09, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

October 4

Need help to upload photos

I would like to upload photos of my relative, sewing machine inventor Allen B. Wilson, to the page under his name. I am not tech savvy! Would someone please help? Thanks! Nsnskz (talk) 00:38, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

@Nsnskz: Thanks! Before we get into technical details, you must understand copyright law. Sorry, The law itself sometime has ludicrous consequences, but we are obligated to comply with it. Copyright in a picture belongs to the photographer. If you are not the photographer or the heir of the photographer, you cannot upload the picture. (There are some very narrow exceptions). If you do own the copyright, you can upload the picture to our image repository at Commons, and then add it to the article. Start by hitting the "upload file" link in the left-hand column of this or any other page here at Wikipedia, and follow the instructions. If you get lost, come back here and we'll try to help.-Arch dude (talk) 02:29, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

@Nsnskz: OOPS! I now see that Allen B. Wilson died in 1888. This means that the photos are from before 1924 and if any of them was published before then, it is no longer copyrighted (it's in the "public domain") So you can upload it. -Arch dude (talk) 02:35, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Nsnskz, based on the above, try starting here, it's were we keep public domain images. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:40, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Visual editor (still) acting weirdly

Hello. I had asked this here before but I did not receive a response. Basically, whenever I use the visual editor I can't delete text if there is a reference in that text. It sometimes will disappear on my end but won't actually do anything on Wikipedia's end. I'm using Mozilla Firefox and Windows 10. TheAwesomeHwyh 02:36, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

I suspect that many people who respond to questions here regard the Visual Editor as broken, and have little knowledge of it. It's unfortunate. Maproom (talk) 06:44, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Alex Mapelli-Mozzi

Please fix up my new citation - ref number 8. It is in red. Thanks and sorry 175.33.248.139 (talk) 06:38, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

The citation is to a Google search which found the 1989 edition of Which School. Does that edition really confirm that the subject attended Downside 20 years earlier? Incidentally, this source says that he attended Radley. Maproom (talk) 07:05, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Alex's son Edo was a student at Radley - this citation is establishing that the school - Downside - is a boys boarding school whish ALEX attended. Please fix the "red bits". Thanks.