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Working on article on Durga puja

Greetings! I have been working on the article on Durga Puja for the past few days. It would be of great help if you could provide with respective inputs to improve the article. --Tamravidhir (talk) 03:29, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

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Template:Infobox Tirthankara Hi, I just translated the template probably created by User:जैन on Hindi Wikipedia in English. As current template is not accurate enough for Tirthankara articles. It's here : Template:Infobox Tirthankara. Please review it and eliminate possible mistakes in it. Thank you Rishabh.rsd (talk) 08:48, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

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DYK Harshat Mata Temple?

Hallo, Thank you for expanding and editing the Harshat Mata Temple article. Do you think you could nominate it for a WP:DYKNA? It would be nice to build up the Chand Baori article as well. Gryffindor (talk) 21:01, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

@Gryffindor: I just removed the stub tag from the article, and it seems to meet the DYK criteria of 'New' and 'Long Enough'. Some sentences are unsourced, but we can find sources for them (or replace them). Do you have a hook in mind? utcursch | talk 14:05, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
How about "dyk the Harshat Mata Temple is located next to the Chand Baori in the village of Abhaneri, Rajasthan?" or "it is theorized that it was constructed under the rule of the Chahamanas of Shakambhari?" or something like that? Gryffindor (talk) 10:09, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
The reviewers generally ask for something more interesting. I'll try to come up with something. Maybe "DYK ... is more than a thousand years old?" utcursch | talk 14:07, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
Sounds good. Just don't wait too long, otherwise the period of submission will be over. Gryffindor (talk) 12:23, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
Here: Template:Did you know nominations/Harshat Mata Temple. utcursch | talk 18:55, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

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Hello Utcursch, and thank you for nominating Harshat Mata Temple. The nomination was reviewed earlier this month, and some issues need to be addressed before the nomination has been approved. However, there has been no response from you since then, despite an earlier ping. Are you still interested in pursuing the nomination and resolving the reviewer's concerns? If yes, a prompt response would be appreciated, otherwise the nomination may be marked for closure as abandoned if no replies are given within a reasonable timeframe. Thank you and happy editing. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:46, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

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Mahabharata

Hi, please take a look at this Mahabharata page, it's been a victim of often number of edits in past few days. Thanks. HinduKshatrana (talk) 12:42, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Utcursch I would like to clarify the issue regarding Mahabharata page raised by HinduKshatrana since I am the editor who made a few edits on the page today (not before).

There are different versions related to the participation of the warrior Karna in the contest that was conducted in the self-choice ceremony of Draupadi in the canonical texts of Hindu mythological epic Mahabharata.

One popular version states, Karna was rejected by Draupadi. Other version states there was no rejection( he failed at the contest along with others). Reference to the failure version has been provided in Arjuna wiki as well (Reference no. 8). The Critical Edition of Mahabharata by Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute has identified the former version (rejection) as a later interpolation into the text of the epic. Before today, only the rejection version was mentioned in Mahabharata wiki page. I thought it is only fair to mention both variations of an important incident.

This is why, today, I reworded the part "Marriage to Draupadi" in Mahabharata wiki page and added both variations of the incident (rejection and no-rejection) along with references to a blog article explaining the variations in detail and link to official website of [Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute]. However, user HinduKshatrana reverted back my edits multiple times citing my sources and info as unreliable.

I genuinely appreciate HinduKshatrana's concern about vandalism. However, reverting back sourced information can be done with some caution. Please help us resolve this issue peacefully. All I want is for readers of Wiki to know both variations of the incident from canonical sources, and not just one (rejection).

(Panchalidraupadi (talk) 13:29, 31 October 2019 (UTC))

I'm glad to see this editor here, but I don't see how [1] Ref 8is a reliable source for the bit about interpolation. I reverted User:Panchalidraupadi as neither the Sanskrit version in ref 8 nor the blog they used are reliable texts. However, the Critical Edition mentioned may well be. I agree with the intention, just not the method or sources. Doug Weller talk 14:51, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
@Doug Weller:

Thank you Doug for texting me here.

I'd iterate what I said in your talk page. The current content in the Synopsis of the Mahabharata page is outdated, and needs to be corrected. But going by Wiki policies, it is becoming difficult to do so. This is because, the Critical Edition of Mahabharata is available in public domain only in Sanskrit at this point, not in English. The link privided to the Sanskrit Mahabharata in my edits was precisely the link to that scene from Sanskrit Critical Edition (CE). And some of the research papers related to CE are available in https://archives.org in pdf format.

Below, I have provided citation from an academic paper named "Interpolations from the Mahabharata" by M.A. Mehendale. It is a paper published in the journal "Annals of BORI" of Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute. You can scroll down and read about Draupadi's svayamvara in the free text. It explains that the popular sequence of Draupadi objecting to marry Karna (spelled as Kama in the text format) has been identified as later addition. Link: https://archive.org/stream/InterpolationsInTheMahabharata/INTERPOLATIONS%20In%20The%20Mahabharata_djvu.txt (There are a few spelling mistakes, and mixing of Footnotes with the running text in the free text format, but the pdf format of the paper has everything right.)

Please clarify if this qualifies as an academic source.


(Panchalidraupadi (talk) 15:28, 31 October 2019 (UTC))

@Panchalidraupadi: Please continue this discussion on Talk:Mahabharata. M. A. Mehendale's Interpolations in the Mahabharata is an acceptable source. When in doubt about a source's reliability, you can initiate a discussion at WP:RSN. utcursch | talk 18:24, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
@Utcursch: Thank you very much for your reply, and clarifying the authenticity of the source.
 @Doug Weller: Please see above. I might need yours or any other admin's intervention to add my edits with the acceptable sources in Mahabharata page, in case any user reverts my changes.

For any further discussion, we may communicate on Talk:Mahabharata.

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Greetings. Thanks for showing interest. Discussion on talk page may be initiated before doing unilateral edits to the main page. Hope you take it in the right spirit. Yours Nikhil Srivastava (talk) 16:16, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

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@Fylindfotberserk: Thanks, and same to you! utcursch | talk 17:43, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
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@CAPTAIN RAJU: Thanks and same to you! utcursch | talk 14:37, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

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Hello, Utcursch! I have created a page named Draft:B. K. Misra, could you please review it? Thanks a lot! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vm1207 (talk • contribs) 16:04, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Looks like someone else is reviewing it, but I will take a look as well. utcursch | talk 15:12, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, Utcursch! Any help would be highly appreciated! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vm1207 (talk • contribs) 16:22, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
Dear Utcursch, eagerly waiting to hear from you. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vm1207 (talk • contribs) 16:19, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
@Vm1207: I agree with Espresso Addict's comments. I'd recommend formatting bare URLs using {{cite news}} template. Also, the "currently the head of Neurosurgery at Hinduja Hospitals" sentence doesn't need so many citations. See WP:CITEOVERKILL. The subject seems notable enough -- once you address these issues, the article is bound to get approved for creation. utcursch | talk 18:14, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, Utcursch for the valuable feedback. Could you please help me with that? Also, this might sound stupid but how do you we use a single source in multiple places? Thanks again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vm1207 (talk • contribs)

@Vm1207: You can use refill tool to format the bare URLs. See this edit on how to use a single source in multiple places. utcursch | talk 20:33, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Misleading edit summaries such as "fixed typo"

You left me a message on my talk page, i read it. Thank you sir for your parenting & advice. About fixed typo problem i want to tell you respectfully it is an option in Wikipedia so i choose it many times, so this is not a misleading. In Wikipedia i am a new Wikipedian so i don't know everything about it. I giving my small contributions with learning basis in Wikipedia from my knowledge. When any lesion or matter i read & listening from teachers & other valuable peoples of society i provide to others & also in Wikipedia. I am a truth loving nature person so i don't do any fraud activities. &...

In Anjana Om Kashyap's page i done small edits about her Social knowledge. I do this because i am also from Ranchi & currently living in Ranchi. When i was a child, she was young. She was a student of Missionary School. I known her & her family well. That's reason i made some edits. Sir i request you please give me your love and parenting. Thanks. Ps.prashantsingh16 (talk) 18:31, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

I wasn't the one who dropped a note about your edits to Anjana Om Kashyap, but please have a look at WP:V - you must cite a reliable source when adding / changing content to a Wikipedia article. utcursch | talk 18:51, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

About Nau Nihal Singh

Hello i Saw Thatcher you deleted my notes about Nau Nihal Singh.

He s my gran gran gran gran pa. Now we must show the truth about his stillborn son. Could i show you? CAN we tale about this?

Princesse Angelica Princesse Angelica (talk) 10:07, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

@Princesse Angelica: Anyone could claim that they are descendant of a royal family. Wikipedia requires a reliable source for such claims - family traditions are not acceptable sources. utcursch | talk 18:15, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello, could you please ask this question to the historien man called Lafon. He Knows all about our family. What about your publication you tome me that or must be the truth. But it wasnt.before your affirmation you must clarify your story not with the bad information. Could we call Together ? Princess Angelica Princesse Angelica (talk) 19:15, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

@Princesse Angelica: Please see WP:RS: Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published sources. If historian Lafon has published an article supporting these claims in a peer-reviewed journal or a book by a reputed publisher, these claims can be included in the article. "Clarifying" these claims over a call or talking to a historian are of no use here. utcursch | talk 20:03, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi , thanks for your regards i Saw the Wikipedia guidelines. we must clarify the story With the truth about This point. This guideline doesnt permit to clarify This point cause it Will be suppose that the Wikipedia reader could have proof and evidence that it s writting... but he wasnt historian or scientist to study this period. He just read books that s all. Not a lot of books only one of them written to arrange the crown s story.you know that we can have many reputed publisher with a false stories. Please try to get new evidence in order to tell the truth of this story cause you are thé writter of this article. I know you would like to tell the truth...find it for sikh people. Try and find you can do that. I can show you some evidence. Do you want my adress? Could we tell together? Please i need your help to show the truth thru the would. We ve got so many persecutions to stop them now. Best regards Princess Angelica Princesse Angelica (talk) 10:22, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

I am not the writer of this article, or of Wikipedia's WP:V and WP:RS guidelines. The Wikipedia articles, policies, and guidelines are written collaboratively by the Wikipedia community.
Even if you were able to convince me that you are descended from Nau Nihal Singh, other Wikipedia editors will not accept your claim unless it is published in a source that meets WP:RS standards.
If you want to propose a change to these policies and guidelines, have a look at Wikipedia:Requests for comment. utcursch | talk 16:38, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

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Ahluwalia (caste)

utcursh how to send you facts regarding the ahluwalia caste.The royal family called themselves JATKALAL in all documents you can check on wiki.Ahluwalias are mixture of jatkalal thats why itself is a caste Jatkalal.kindly type jatkalal on google and you can find documents regarding it.thanks kindly update the page with real information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2402:8100:23bd:bff0:71d3:6e48:fda9:b9b0 (talk • contribs)

You don't need to send any information to me. You just need to cite reliable sources for the content you are adding. A Google search for "Jatkalal" throws up instagram posts etc. which are not acceptable sources. Also, please do not remove existing sourced content from the article. utcursch | talk 21:08, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

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Incorporating Prakash Vir Shastri in Tyagi

Greetings Utkarsh,

Can u check the wikipedia page of Mr. Prakash Vir Shastri which clearly states fathers name of Mr. Prakash Vir Shastri as Dalip Sinh Tyagi. Wikipedia is not letting me add Mr. Prakash Vir Shastri to Tyagi page on wikipedia.

Pleas let me know if u have any questions.

Thanks, Aman Tyagi — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tyagiaman (talk • contribs) 16:02, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

@Tyagiaman: The "Notable people" section on the page Tyagi lists people whose name includes Tyagi, not people whose parents' name was Tyagi. "Prakash Vir Shastri" doesn't belong on that page unless "Tyagi" is a part of his name. utcursch | talk 21:01, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Utkarsh - Page Tyagi should be about people who belong to Tyagi caste that is those who r Tyagi. Page should not be about people who have Tyagi as a surname. Can u or somebody share y would u create a page about Tyagi surname which is a subset of Tyagi caste which is a superset? To explain to u according to an analogy, if u r talking about Kayastha caste, u dont talk about Saxena, Bhatnagar, Srivaastav, Mathur separately. They all come under Kayastha caste. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tyagiaman (talk • contribs) 16:05, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Also, just to let u know 'Shastri' is titular for those who have studied Shaastr (ancient books) or those who have studied Sanskrit. In Mr. Prakash Vir Shastri's case u can check it was because of knowledge of Sanskrit. Even Mr. Lal Krishn Advani honored Mr. Prakash Vir Shastri for Mr. Shastri's contribution to Hindi by naming the road leading to Rashtrapati Bhavan as Prakash Vir Shastri Avenue. Also, the village that Mr. Prakash Vir Shastri belongs to, its name is Rehra which is village of Tyagi's. Hope u hav the capability to deduce inferences.

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