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June 8

Wikipedia considers a convicted terrorist a hero???

Hi there, I came across Eric Rudolph's wikipedia page and noted he is described as an American hero for his role in bombings which killed innocent people. I changed hero to terrorist but was informed this does not comply with Wikipedia's policy and has been reverted to the original. I won't change it again but will leave it up to you as to which word is most appropriate and least offensive. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.8.44.170 (talk) 02:08, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi, the history of the page shows that "hero" wasn't up for long (27 minutes), and your revision to terrorist is still live in the article. I think that the message placed on your talkpage might have been put there in error, and was meant for the user who originally changed "terrorist" to "hero". Perhaps @Drmies could clarify? Pi (Talk to me!) 02:15, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. I clicked the wrong template. I did not, obviously, change it back to "hero"--in fact I blocked the person who inserted that. Drmies (talk)

The White House

The address listed is incorrect and should reflect the below address:

1600 Black Lives Matter Plaza NW, Washington DC 20005 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.202.152.162 (talk) 03:43, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Got a citation to a reliable source for that claim? (It appears to be from a tweet from a white house reporter trolling Trump.) --Guy Macon (talk) 03:55, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

The street itself was not renamed, just the intersection of Pennsylvania Avenue and 14th Street NW. 331dot (talk) 09:52, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Naguib Sawiris

i need to edit the information in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naguib_Sawiris most of the information need to e changes and i don't know how and i need your help — Preceding unsigned comment added by NohaFanous (talk • contribs) 09:34, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

The place to suggest changes to an article is on its talk page (in this case Talk:Naguib Sawiris), but you appear to be trying to add a malformatted and misplaced external link to the body of the text, and at least one of your edits removed existing sourced text. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:45, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Unable to upload photo

Dear Mr or Ms,

we, Latvian National opera and ballet, are trying to upload a photo of the program of our first performance (15.10.1918.), but wikipedia doesn't allow us to do it. We are also unable to attach the picture and the explanation to this mail. Please assist us with this problem and your consultation.

Regards, Latvian National opera and ballet — Preceding unsigned comment added by Latvijas Nacionalā opera un balets (talk • contribs) 09:37, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Latvijas Nacionalā opera un balets. How were you trying to upload it? What happened to make you unable to? And (most important), what is the copyright status of the picture?

Also please note that (as mentioned in the message on your talk page) your account name is not acceptable, because it appears to represent an organisation (all accounts are for individuals, and may not be shared); and if you are planning to do anything to the existing article Latvian National Opera (including adding an image), please familiarise yourselves with our policies on conflict of interest and paid editing before you do so. --ColinFine (talk) 11:56, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

As I understand or misunderstand this, if either

• (A) the photographer died in or before 1945 (regardless of the first publication of the photograph)

or

• (B) both (i) the photographer died in or before 1949 and (ii) the photograph was first published in what is now Latvia in or before 1924,

then the photograph is in the public domain, and may be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons (thanks to which it may be used in the Wikipedia of any language).

I'm assuming that the photograph originated in what is now Latvia; if the first performance was instead in exile in, say, France, then I suppose that French (and not Latvian) copyright law would apply. Indeed, there are many possible complexities and points that I may have misunderstood, so you'd better ask at Wikimedia Commons for expert (Latvian?) opinion. -- Hoary (talk) 12:17, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

The above is incomplete. If the photo was published in the US after 1924 and before 1964, and the copyright was properly renewed, or from 1964-1978 (when renewal was automatic) then it is still protected by US copyright, no matter when the photographer died. If it was first published anywhere before 1924, it is now in the public domain under US law, again no matter when the photographer died. There are some possible further complications if the photographer made the original photo as part of regular employment, such that it constituted a work-made-for-hire, which can make the employer the "author" of the photo under US law (although not under the law of various other countries) and again make the death date of the photographer not relevant. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 13:00, 8 June 2020 (UTC) @Latvijas Nacionalā opera un balets and Hoary: DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 13:01, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

@Latvijas Nacionalā opera un balets: I suggest you ask at Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions. TSventon (talk) 02:25, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Subsectioning

User A creates a section every time A needs to address a certain topic. Discussion starts, but user A replies by creating a new section. Discussion continues and the user is asked to stop creating sections. User A creates still another section to reply. And so on...

Is there a guideline that could suggest the user to stop this behavior? Is it disruptive?

Also, are we allowed to transform the consecutive sections in subsections of a bigger section? (without changing section titles nor moving discussions up or down).--ReyHahn (talk) 11:49, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello, ReyHahn and welcome to the Help desk. See Wikipedia:Refactoring talk pages and Editing others' comments. There is more advice here about creating sections and subsection than about joining them, however. See also WP:TALKNEW where it says: Don't create a new heading that duplicates an existing heading: If you are responding to a comment or adding to a discussion on a particular topic, respond after the comment or at the bottom of the existing section.

In general I would say that the practice you describe is at least mildly disruptive, and that combining A's comments by joining them into a single section, or by making the separate sections into subsections is justifiable, provided that the meaning and context of A's comments is not changed. It is also permitted to change headings if this adds to clari8ty and does not change the maning of any editor's comments. You can ask A not to comment in this way. If it becomes serio0usly disruptive you could take the matter to WP:ANI, but I would be quite reluctant to do that. I hope that is helpful. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 12:43, 8 June 2020 (UTC) @ReyHahn: DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 12:45, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Depreciated source?

I recently tried to cite this news article, but I got a notice saying that it's a depreciated source. It wasn't a big deal since I was able to find another source with the same information, but I can't find ETToday listed at Wikipedia:Deprecated sources. Is the website actually depreciated? ◢   Ganbaruby!   (Say hi!) 11:55, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

@Ganbaruby: Where did you get the notice? I suggest asking whoever posted the notice for clarification. RudolfRed (talk) 22:37, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Ganbaruby, I added this because it was linked in a couple of articles as Epoch Times (and the content may have been syndicated). That said, it's a terrible source. Guy (help!) 07:56, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

@JzG: Thanks for the reply. I totally understand why the Epoch Times is depreciated, but I find it strange that ETToday is blocked as well, considering that ETToday is a Taiwanese news outlet that has (to my knowledge) no affiliation with Falun Gong. The RfC also has no mention of ETToday as well. What exactly do you mean by "linked in a couple of articles as Epoch Times"? ◢   Ganbaruby!   (Say hi!) 09:28, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Ganbaruby, it was listed as the url in citation templates identified as Epoch Times in some articles, presumably syndicated content. Guy (help!) 10:52, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

@JzG: I see that this issue was previously brought up on your talk page by User:Newslinger. I do find it odd that ETtoday's articles were attributed to Epoch, but ETtoday's Chinese wiki page and some quick Google searches in both English and Chinese don't point to ETtoday ever coming under Epoch's ownership. This makes me think that the cite url template was just incorrectly filled out. Could you point me to the list of places ETtoday was identified as Epoch? With my Chinese ability, I can personally go through them and let you know what I find, and if anything, cut down on pages still sourcing Epoch. ◢   Ganbaruby!   (Say hi!) 16:35, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Ganbaruby, not without wading through a large number of diffs, no. But it doesn't really matter: I fixed the filter this morning. I would have done it when Newslinger mentioned it but I got distracted, sorry. Guy (help!) 17:05, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

@JzG: Didn't realize you fixed it already. Cheers. ◢   Ganbaruby!   (Say hi!) 17:58, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Using Wikipedia

I am creating an article for a celebrity. I tried editing. But I want to know how to publish it quickly on the Google search. Pleas help me out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pappu Sulthan (talk • contribs) 12:30, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

I tried editing an article. But I want to publish it as soon as possible. How do I do that quickly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pappu Sulthan (talk • contribs) 12:33, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

The first thing is to forget about doing things quickly; there is no deadline. You then need to ascertain whether the subject meets Wikipedia's definition of notability. If so, you can read the advice at WP:Your first article. If you are trying to write about yourself, please read the advice against autobiography. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:37, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

@Pappu Sulthan: We are an encylopedia, not a means of promotion (seeWP:NOT), so we specifically delay indexing by Google and other search engines for new articles. Therefore, if your main goal is to get on Google search, you should try a different platform. We have a few suggestions at WP:OUT. If you wish to continue ere on Wikipedia and are being compensated for this in any way, please read and adhere to WP:PAID. -Arch dude (talk) 14:54, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

How do I create a page for an organisation?

Good Day,

I would like to know how do I create a Wikipedia page fro an organization after it got removed by the admin? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thewcbs (talk • contribs) 12:36, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

If you read the deletion log for the article, it will explain the method of the deletion, and the reason for it. Any attempt to retrieve the article will depend on the method of deletion. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:40, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

@Thewcbs: WP:COI and WP:PAID might be relevant too. Brianjd (talk) 15:20, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

What's the name of the organisation? --Orange Mike | Talk 17:53, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Can’t edit myself because don’t know English good enough

Hello there is this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_amendments_to_the_Constitution_of_Russia?wprov=sfti1 article which doesn’t contain amendments like mentioning god in constitution and defining marriage as union of a man and woman, which is important because it discriminates LGBTQ community, but I don’t think there is a source in English somewhere about it. Could you draw someone’s (experienced Wikipedia ru-en translator, for example) attention to this problem? DonGuess (talk) 14:23, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Here is a source in russian https://www.rbc.ru/politics/14/03/2020/5e689b689a7947e1824b2770. DonGuess (talk) 14:25, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

The place to discuss an article is on its talk page, in this case Talk:2020 amendments to the Constitution of Russia. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:59, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Well, I know, but I don’t think anyone would see it soon there, its importance is not even rated yet. By the way, who has a right to rate it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DonGuess (talk • contribs) 15:41, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

@DonGuess: Anyone can assign a WikiProject rating, as long as they follow the assessment criteria. For this talk page, the criteria is at Wikipedia:WikiProject Russia/Assessment. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) GoingBatty (talk) 16:11, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Bots for predatory journals or unreliable sources

If anyone can point me to where to find bots that flag possibly unreliable sources, especially for medicine / psychiatry or sociology that would be great. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amousey (talk • contribs) 18:10, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

@Amousey: I'm not aware of any bots that can identify unreliable sources, but if a source is unreliable, it will often be blocked from being added. If the source was added before the blocking was implemented, bad sources may still exist. You might have more luck getting better info at Wikipedia:WikiProject Reliability. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 00:30, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

@Timtempleton: thanks Amousey (they/then pronouns) (talk) 01:08, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

@Amousey: Take a look at WP:CITEWATCH or WP:UPSD. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 14:07, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

John Farrow

In the Maureen O’Sullivan article, John Farrow dies twice. Once in an airplane crash, and once of a heart issue I believe. The question is...... which was it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.240.121.66 (talk) 22:38, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

No, the article says O'Sullivan's son, Michael, died in a plane crash. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:45, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Remove page history?

Hello, I just moved a new article from draft to mainspace: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Gottlieb_(amateur_astronomer) Is it now possible to remove the page history for the article, to delete references to my draft tinkerings? Think I read that an Administrator can do that. Thanks! Assambrew (talk) 23:04, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Assambrew, WP:Revision deletion is generally not used in such situations. There is no problem with keeping that in the history. Hillelfrei ^talk 23:40, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

It's possible but in this case you can effectively do it yourself. Since you are the only contributor you are allowed to copy-paste the content per Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. You can move it back and then copy-paste to mainspace instead of moving. See Wikipedia:Redirect#How to edit a redirect or convert it into an article. If there are other contributors then the page has to be moved to preserve the page history for attribution. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:46, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Okay thanks. Well there is another contributor now, thanks to my mentioning the article here. Guess I will leave the history alone.. Assambrew (talk) 00:31, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Assambrew, just to check - is there anything sensitive in the page history that you're worried about? I haven't looked through it, but it (for example) you copied some material from a source which would have been in violation of copyright, but have now rewritten in your own words, I'd be happy to do a CV revdel on it. If it's just tinkering around with prose, I wouldn't worry about removing it (anyone dredging through the early versions of any of my articles will surely find the same sort of thing). GirthSummit _(blether) 13:27, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

No, nothing sensitive. I just thought it was messy to keep edit history around from when I was composing the article in draft. Thanks for replying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Assambrew (talk • contribs) 18:56, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

June 9

i am music video editor how can i add my own page on wikipedia

i am music video editor, i am work with punjabi , canadian artist's i trying to add my work or profile on wikipedia can anyone help me ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wahidpuria (talk • contribs) 05:30, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a social media site with profiles; it is an encyclopedia with articles on subjects which meet its definition of notability. Please read the advice against autobiography. --David Biddulph (talk) 05:34, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

AfD topic alerts

Is there a bot, or script, that can be run to leave talk page alerts when articles in certain genres/ topics etc are nominated for AfD? ——Serial ^# 09:10, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

@Serial Number 54129: Maybe User:AAlertBot or Wikipedia:Article alerts? Not sure though. OkayKenji ^{(talk page)} 04:52, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks very much for that OkayKenji, I've never seen that bot before! Cheers. I wonder if it's only for projects though; Headbomb, can it report to individual talk pages too? ——Serial ^# 08:56, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Not sure I understand the question, but feel free to peruse WP:AALERTS/SUB and see if that answers it. If not, feel free to ask at WT:AALERTS. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 13:25, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

HELP NEEDED!

Can someone please run me to a live session on how to make a Wikipedia page as it is too confusing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pune Gasparts (talk • contribs) 10:19, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Pune Gasparts Wikipedia has articles, not mere "pages". Successfully creating a new article is indeed the absolute hardest task to perform on Wikipedia. I might suggest that you read Your First Article and use the new user tutorial to learn more about how Wikipedia operates and what is expected of article content. You might also try spending time editing existing articles in areas that interest you, to get a feel for the process. 331dot (talk) 10:33, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

@331dot: Hoping, of course, that it's nothing to do with [1]  ;) ——Serial ^# 12:41, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Adding a person to Wikipedia

How can i add a name to this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Don320 (talk • contribs) 18:16, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

@Don320: You can add a new article about any notable person, by our definition of notable (WP:N). Most people are not notable. We will delete any article whose subject is not notable. Really. Don't waste your time unless you are satisfied the subject is notable.. After you have established that your subject is notable, proceed to WP:YFA to learn how to create the article. Almost all lists of names in our articles only allow names of people who have articles, so do not add the name of a person without an article or it will be deleted. -Arch dude (talk) 18:37, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

How to check on a username change

Hello, thank you for your time. I'm trying to find an answer to my request for a username change. I did find a history of when I asked for the name change, but I'm unclear on the response by a Robot clerk note that there were no problems found, yet my username is still the same.

I'm also unclear if once the username has changed then does my log in immediately change? and does it keep the same password as the old username. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MeaningfulCoaching (talk • contribs) 18:42, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

@MeaningfulCoaching: Since your request is still listed at Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple#MeaningfulCoaching → SCRPedits, the request has not been completed yet. GoingBatty (talk) 20:15, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

From Draft to Live process / assistance

I started a wiki page for information about a nonprofit offering services, tools, and assistance to voters. I put up a draft however would like to go live so I can continue to make edits and allow the community to add details as well on the live site. Please point me in the right direction to enable the wiki page to go live. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:GoVoteMiami,_Inc Thank you, Jonscottcorp — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonscottcorp (talk • contribs) 18:49, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

It is obviously not yet fit to go live, as it has no references to published reliable sources independent of the subject to prove its notability under Wikipedia's definition. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:00, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Jonscottcorp. The draft is "live" in the sense that anybody in the world can see it if they know to look, and contribute to it if they choose. But drafts are not accepted into the encylclopaedia until they meet our minimum requirements for an encyclopaedia article. If you moved your draft to main space now, it would very quickly get either deleted, or perhaps moved back to draft. Please see WP:NCORP and WP:CITE, and remember that Wikipedia is basically not interested in what the subject of an article says (or wants to say) about themselves: it is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject have chosen to publish about the subject (in reliable places). Also note that Wikipedia may not be used for promotion, no matter how worthy the cause may be. --ColinFine (talk) 20:44, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

I added the updates. Is it compliant to go live?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonscottcorp (talk • contribs) 22:03, 9 June 2020 (UTC) 

Jonscottcorp If you were to submit the draft for review right now, it would be rejected. Your draft just tells about the organization. Wikipedia articles must do more, they must summarize what independent reliable sources say about an organization, indicating how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable organization. Wikipedia is not interested in how the organization describes itself or in what it considers to be its own mission, it is only interested in what others say about the organization. You list some links to what appear to be stories about or related to the organization, but in reading the article text they don't seem to be mentioned and the text reads as a promotional brochure for the organization. You may wish to read Your First Article for more information.

I will add the submission information so you can submit it at a later time after you have worked on it some more- but again you shouldn't submit it yet. 331dot (talk) 22:22, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

If you are associated with this nonprofit, you must review and comply with conflict of interest and paid editing. 331dot (talk) 22:23, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

I will add, Jonscottcorp that your urgency, and some of the things you say about your article, suggest to me that you are here not to build an encyclopaedia, but to use Wikipedia to publicise your cause. Please see NOTSOAPBOX. --ColinFine (talk) 09:27, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Article on company or it's products?

Alright, so there's this company I want to write an article on, the thing is, reliable sources only ever talk about the company's products and not the company itself. WP:PRODUCT says that it's recommended that any information on a company's products should be in the article of the company rather than then having "multiple stubs about each individual product", but I don't want to create an article on a company just to have it be primarily about the company's products as per WP:OFFTOPIC. Likewise, I'd rather not create a "List of products manufactured by <insert company name here>" as per WP:NOTDIRECTORY. So what's my course of action?Americanfreedom (talk) 19:33, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

@Americanfreedom: For the Acme company, if Acme's products are notable, then "Acme products" would be an acceptable article. It's not a list. However, I'm skeptical that the products will be notable. You would need to meet WP:N, finding multiple independent substantial references in reliable sources that are independent of the source. As a separate issue, if you are associated with the company please read and adhere to WP:COI. If you are being compensated by the company in any way, you must comply with WP:PAID. If your username is the name of a company, you must change it (WP:USERNAME). -Arch dude (talk) 20:34, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

• If the products would all amount to nothing more than stubs, then perhaps start the article as "list of X products", fleshing out the descriptions, pictures, etc as you go. At some point it may make sense to fork them off, or alternately if it is comprehensive and well sourced, you may have a FL on your hands. Crow^Caw 22:19, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

It seems to me that a company is normally only notable for what it does. In the case of a manufacturing company it can only be notable for its products or possibly for the way it treats its its workers or because it is the only source of employment in a particular place. Such a company that has just been set up and is not yet in production would not yet be notable. The exceptions to this would be perhaps be if it intended to produce a totally new product that doesnt yet exist or was involved in some sort of scandal or was an "engine for fraud." I think a company that was owned by or led by a well known figure such as President Trump or Ringo Star would not in itself be notable.Spinney Hill (talk) 09:05, 10 June 2020 (UTC)Spinney Hill (talk) 09:03, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

When Can I Post Pages?

What are the basic protocols for being able to post a new page?

I've met 10 edits so far - ranging from small tweaks to a couple sentences. Is there a certain ranking you must achieve before having this ability? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jthorp72 (talk • contribs) 21:40, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

@Jthorp72: Hi, you can usually start creating articles when your account is 4 days old and has made 10 edits. See Wikipedia:User_access_levels#Autoconfirmed_and_confirmed_users for different user access levels. If your account is not confirmed or autoconfirmed yet then you can still create an article at Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation and your article will be reviewed Pi (Talk to me!) 21:46, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Jthorp72 Even if you are technically able to create articles (not just "page") yourself, it is strongly advised that you use Articles for Creation to create and submit a draft for review by another editor, so you find any problems before the article is formally a part of the encyclopedia, instead of afterwards when it will be treated more critically. Many don't realize that successfully creating a new Wikipedia article is the absolute hardest thing to do on Wikipedia. It's good to have some other eyes on your work for the first attempt. 331dot (talk) 22:26, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Need help with this article

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Athar_Siddiqui — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shayarwazir (talk • contribs) 23:53, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

@Shayarwazir: You have 8 references that do not have footnotes within the draft. I suggest you summarize the content of those web pages in your draft, and move the references accordingly. GoingBatty (talk) 02:49, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

I was rudely spoken to by one of your main editors:

My son's father Adam Stanger, all of his information is basically wrong... and there is no mention of too much truthfulness... Adam doesn't use the computer and so I was fixing things and adding missing information including the fact that he has never been African American, he is Panamanian and American. Also there is a lot of wrong information regarding about his touring with Jerry Cantrell. He was hired with his band, "Comes With The Fall" to do double duty and was thrown off of the tour two different times, because they were feeding him drugs... on top of that... His son, CoryAdam Rogers/Stanger deserves to be recognized as a part of his life. I don't appreciate some person that didn't even see or live what went on to try and write fiction and I'm so glad I only gave money to you guys once, because as far as I can see, you have a rude bunch of morons running this site. I will not take this lightly and I don't care if I'm banned. You all want to write a fake write up on a musician rather than the truth. He's done more than you're giving him credit for and I am going to just tell people that your page is the worst place to look for information. As I came across another one of my exes and I'm not even mentioned and was with him for over 4 years. So, good luck with your fictional information. I don't want to be famous, but Adam's son does deserve to be mentioned as he is his only living child and was introduced at the Hard Rock Cafe' by Jerry Cantrell, himself, as part of the line-up that night ( our son )... So, why don't you all work on your rude factor before you hand out your badges to idiots with no knowledge of the truth.

Jeniffer Rogers — Preceding unsigned comment added by MsAndruGibb (talk • contribs) 23:57, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

• Courtesy link to page in question, Adam Stanger. OkayKenji ^{(talk page)} 05:25, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Basically, a WP-article on any topic is meant to be a summary of what WP:Reliable sources (as defined by WP) has written about it. And with articles about living people (WP:BLP), we are meant to be very picky that anything in the article is well reffed. If you can get onboard with that, you may be able to have some influence on the contents of the article. However, you should also look at WP:COI. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:23, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

@MsAndruGibb: Giving money to the Wikimedia Foundation helps it pay for servers, facilities, and staff. None of that has anything to do with us volunteer "morons", who are here to build a free encyclopedia, just as you're supposed to be. It's hard to feel any desire to help you when you come here calling us morons (also see WP:NPA). —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 17:31, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

June 10

Need help with RM

Hello a day or so ago I tried creating a requested move for the Just like Fire Would article as can be seen on its talk page. However it isn't listed at Requested moves, and the bot doesn't seem to notice it either. Could someone help fix this? Sakura Cartelet^Talk 00:19, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

It appears to be listed now. OkayKenji ^{(talk page)} 04:59, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Looking at the Diff {{requested move/dated|Just Like Fire Would}} and your signature was not added as it normally will do when there is a contested technical request. Not sure why exactly that occurred. WP:RM#TR says:

"If you object to a proposal listed in the uncontroversial technical requests section, please move the request to the Contested technical requests section, append a note on the request elaborating on why, and sign with ~~~~.

If your technical request is contested, or if a contested request is left untouched without reply, create a requested move on the article talk and remove the request from the section here. The fastest and easiest way is to click the "discuss" button at the request, save the talk page, and remove the entry on this page."

I clicked "discuss" on the page mentioned above, and {{requested move/dated|Just Like Fire Would}} was in the edit I made. Perhaps its a bug? But it is listed now. OkayKenji ^{(talk page)} 05:18, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Weird edits I've never made?

Uhh... hi there. I'm not a logged in user but I suddenly got random messages about new edits on pages that I haven't even visited (Guantanamo Bay and Jack something-or-other). What's all this about? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.7.219.118 (talk) 08:35, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

If you have no knowledge of such edits, then other persons made them under the same IP address that you are using. 331dot (talk) 08:43, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

You may have noticed that the warning about Guantanamo Bay was dated 2010, and about the other article was dated last year. The contributions from your IP address can be seen at Special:Contributions/202.7.219.118, accessible through the "Contributions" link at the top right of every Wikipedia page. At the foot of your use talk page it says: "If this is a shared IP address, and you did not make the edits, consider creating an account for yourself or logging in with an existing account so you can avoid further irrelevant notices." --David Biddulph (talk) 08:47, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

If you are not a registered user, then all Wikipedia knows about these edits is what IP they were made from. It has no knowledge about whether they were made by the same physical person. So it is probable that your IP address is shared among other people and these edits were made when the IP address was used by some other person. JIP | Talk 09:36, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Adding tabular column, topics ad images

How do I add tabular column, images and headings in the page which I created? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krithika Raj (talk • contribs) 13:27, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

rotary valve - Use in production engines section

This section is now out of date:

RCV Engines no longer develops or produces the scooter engine. Current engines are smaller capacity single/twin and four cylinder multi-fuel engines used in a variety of platforms including: forest and garden machinery, unmanned systems, hybrid range extenders, fixed and rotary wing UAV, marine applications and more.

Key attributes to the RCV design is its ability to run on a variety of fuels due to its unique combustion. Many engines struggle to run using heavy fuels (jet fuels) however RCV are able to switch between with no measurable power loss. This also allows for the ability to remote start. See https://www.rcvengines.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rcv engines (talk • contribs) 13:50, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

The place to suggest changes is on the article's talk page: Talk:Rotary valve. I will put a note on your user talk page about your user name. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:02, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Editing Information about me

Sir this is absurd that some people who have not been authorised by me hVe uploaded and created a Wikipedia false biography of me.

I tried to edit and add the proper true information but I am not allowed to make changes.

I am Deepa Jayakumar neice of former Tamilnadu chief Minister J Jayalalitha.

If the information on me is erroneous or untrue I should be allowed to edit it.

More over I would like to add more details about myself.

Either delete my profile permanently or allow me to make changes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deepsands74 (talk • contribs) 14:13, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello Deepsands74 and welcome to Wikipedia. Try to start with WP:BIOSELF. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:51, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Houston Ebony Opera Guild

Dear Wikipedia leadership and volunteers,

Houston Ebony Opera Guild appreciates having a Wikipedia listing. However, our street address has changed.

CORRECT ADDRESS IN JUNE 2020:

Houston Ebony Opera Guild 1600 Main Street Suite # 15 Houston, Texas, 77002

VERIFICATION: Houston Ebony Opera Guild is located in the office building owned by MATCH (Midtown Arts and Theater Center Houston)

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:E030:4EF0:FD31:F37B:D2AF:DA47 (talk) 14:15, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

The incorrect address appears to be on Google, Wikipedia doesn't have an article about Houston Ebony Opera Guild so far as I can see. You would need to contact Google directly to get it changed. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:56, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

You are mentioned in our article Culture of Houston, but without an address. --ColinFine (talk) 16:14, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Biography

Can I post my picture — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucky yvy (talk • contribs) 16:01, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Lucky yvy, Wikipedia:Guidance for younger editors (take the time to read that) advice against it. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:22, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Manually created new article instead of moving draft by accident

I created in 3 edits the Draft:Police_and_Unions and manually copied the content into Police_and_Unions, not realizing I needed to change the namespace. Could someone delete the Draft, or delete the article, and then move the Draft to Wikipedia namespace? All edits are mine, so shouldn't be controversial either way. Shushugah (talk) 16:34, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

This was fixed, thank you User:Calliopejen1 Shushugah (talk) 16:48, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

i couldnt make a new article

I have created an account and also im in mediawiki community but when it comes to start a new wikipedia page i couldnt log in when i log in a notice comes like ive been blocked due to some ip address please help me with this issue. thanking you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sri amsni (talk • contribs) 16:47, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi Sri amsni - You cannot create articles as your account is not yet WP:Autoconfirmed - this post was your first edit. You need to have made 10 edits and been here for at least 4 days before you can create articles. However, as creating new articles is one of the most difficult things to do, we suggest you follow the procedure in WP:Your first article - Best wishes Arjayay (talk) 17:48, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

About my first article in Wikipedia.

Dear Wikipedia help desk members,

My name is Konstantinos Patrinos and I am a physics researcher in the field of experimental high energy physics. I am writing an article using my recent Wikipedia account on the inconsistency of some experimental results with the theory of relativity. This discrepancy is substantiated in scientific publications, some of which are considered historical. I have personally identified these problems by developing a physics hypothesis based on the existence of an absolute reference system.

Although my own scientific work is already published, I will start with this first article in wikipedia, because I find that the references in articles on the agreement of theory of relativity to various experiments in social web sites are much more than references to articles relating to inconsistency of experimental results with the theory of relativity.

More specifically, regarding to the specific experiments to which I refer in the article I am now writing, using my Wikipedia account, little or not at all reference is made in social web sites regarding to the problems of inconsistency of these experimental results with the theory of relativity.

My question is:

Since I have no experience in writing articles in wikipedia, what is your opinion, according to what I mentioned before, about whether something should be taken into account or improved in this article.

Sincerely, Dr. Konstantinos Patrinos <contact information redacted> — Preceding unsigned comment added by KPatrinos (talk • contribs) 19:49, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

I am sorry, Konstantinos, but Wikipedia by intention and design is not a venue for original research or synthesis of any kind. We neither seek nor host any kind of original scholarship, because that is not our purpose. Our goal is to aggregate information already published by reliable sources. Your goal is not compatible with that model. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:59, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Follow-up to about my first article in Wikipedia

I may not have formulated the question correctly. The article I am writing aims to aggregate information already published by scientific journals.

Konstantinos Patrinos — Preceding unsigned comment added by KPatrinos (talk • contribs) 20:20, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

If by "aggregate" you mean form a synthesis and/or draw a conclusion, that still counts as original research. JIP | Talk 20:22, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

@KPatrinos: What is the name of your proposed article? The subject of a Wikipedia article must already be notable by our definition (WP:N) before the article is added. If you do a web search for the subject and cannot find multiple independent reliable sources, then the subject is not (yet) notable and any article will be deleted.-Arch dude (talk) 22:25, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Another question. Could I post a paper I have already published, using my wikipedia account, and what is the way to do it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KPatrinos (talk • contribs) 23:03, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

@KPatrinos: No. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a platform for people to publish original research (even if it's already been published elsewhere, and that would present a copyright issue to be resolved as well). Please have a look at the links in the new message on your talk page to get an idea of what we're about. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 23:14, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

@KPatrinos: N.b., please try to use a descriptive, concise, and unique section title when posting here. Pages should not have duplicate section titles. Thanks. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 23:17, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Given that your work is already published, it might be possible to cite it as a reference on an already established Wikipedia article entirely unconnected to you, provided that your research actually adds value to the article and you're not just trying to promote your research. However, as has already been said, posting your research itself on Wikipedia is strictly forbidden. JIP | Talk 00:41, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Google search wiki in Japanese not english

Hello I use google on safari browser/iPhone with AT&T. Often my searches result in wiki and I can see link in English but after I click link, wiki is in Japanese. Example result below:

https://ja.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawarma — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:D4A0:3540:81C1:52D6:D1DA:EF0B (talk) 20:17, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

There is no page by that name. The Japanese text says so. Which search did you make? What did Google say before you clikced the link? "ja." in the url means the Japanese Wikipedia so the page language is correct. The English WIkipedia has urls with "en." PrimeHunter (talk) 22:21, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Template Creation & Category Suppression

I know that the parameter |nocat=true can be used to suppress the categorisation due to a template, but I’ve been unable to make it work on templates stored in other namespaces such as this one: {{User:Idell/Userbox ES}}. Are there ways to suppress such categorisation without tweaking the original code of the template?

I also want to ask whether Wikipedians can create templates in the Template namespace as they desire. If yes, what could lead to their deletion? Idell (talk) 20:26, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

As to the question about stripping categories from templates, see {{strip categories}}

As to the general question about creating templates, then yes, that is one of the fundamental principles of Wikipedia: anyone can create a template, but anyone can nominate one for deletion too. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 20:44, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Editing title of Wikipedia Page

I'm trying to edit the IgniteXML Wikipedia Page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IgniteXML. I'm not for sure who put this up but I work for the company and that's not what we're called.

I can see where to edit the copy of the page, but there doesn't seem like a place where you can edit the Title. Also, I'm not logged into an account or the one that made this, so would that make it hard for me to edit this page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:630:5470:64CB:D4F7:8578:F518 (talk) 21:32, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

• Renaming a page is a different process. If you work for the company, per our Conflict of Interest guidelines, please discuss this at the Talk page of the article, with reliable sources to support the assertion. Thanks, Crow^Caw 22:09, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

IP user: The "talk page" for IgniteXML is at Talk:IgniteXML. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 23:05, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

You are a paid editor. Read and adhere to WP:PAID. This is not a problem, just a fact. There is no advantage in using the old username ("account"), and in fact it's a no-no since a Wikipedia username must not be used by more than one person. It's simpler, especially for a paid editor, to have an account, so please create one. You might want to look at WP:USERNAME. It cannot be the company's name. -Arch dude (talk) 16:11, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Can't download more than one thing from Wikipedia

The other day when using Wikipedia a box popped up at the top of the screen saying something about downloading more than one file at a time. I thought I just clicked to close the box but now I can't download more than one thing without closing the window and re-opening it. What did I do and how do I correct it? I don't even know what to look for or under. I don't have Internet at home so when I use Internet in a public place like here at the library I download stuff I want to read about and do it at home later. Please help!!!! I am not computer literate and have no idea how to do much.204.101.136.236 (talk) 22:06, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

First of all, you need to tell us how you are accessing Wikipedia (wifi?) and what operating system you are using.--Quisqualis (talk) 02:21, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Can not find <ref group=lower-alpha> tags or {{efn}} templates

At George Floyd protests in Kentucky, it says "Cite error: There are <ref group=lower-alpha> tags or {{efn}} templates on this page, but the references will not show without a {{reflist|group=lower-alpha}} template or {{notelist}} template (see the help page)". However, I can not find either text on the page when I go to edit it. Please {{ping}} me when you respond. --Jax 0677 (talk) 23:37, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

@Jax 0677: The {{efn}} template requires a {{notelist}} template at the bottom. I just added it. See Template:Notelist TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 00:39, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) The {{efn}} template is after the words "institutional failure" in George Floyd protests in Kentucky#Louisville. --David Biddulph (talk) 00:42, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

CitiOpera

Ref number 1 is all wrong - please help and thanks 2001:8003:D857:6601:61F1:F688:CE4E:D2FF (talk) 23:53, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Since there's really no easy way for the volunteer editors here to figure out what information you are asking to change, your best bet is to ask on the article's talk page and be more specific. Or you can make the change yourself if its noncontroversial. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 00:31, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

I added the missing |title= and |date= parms and changed |publisher= to |newspaper=. When using the citation tool, it does not always pick up all the correct info from the article source, so it is important to review and fill in manually the fields that are wrong or missing. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 00:55, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

June 11

Edward Makuka Nkoloso

in the profile it says MAKUKA and one line down there it says MUKUKA, so... wich one is the real name... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.252.200.197 (talk) 02:10, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Courtesy link Edward Makuka Nkoloso RudolfRed (talk) 02:17, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice, IP user. (Somebody previously brought it up on the article's talk page, but it wasn't answered there). If you look at the sources cited, you can find both names, so I have added text to explain that. --ColinFine (talk) 09:25, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Change in source editing view

File:Source editing June 2020.png

I am having a change in source editing mode where wikitext looks strange and distracting (see right). How do I turn the coloring and highlighting off? (I cannot find it anywhere in preferences). Thanks in advance, buidhe 10:03, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

@Buidhe: looks like you activated this in your edit window. The pen/ pencil symbol in the toolbar turns it on and off (to the left of the "Advanced" drop-down). ——Serial ^# 10:14, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! Fixed now. buidhe 10:16, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

It's very pretty isn't it :) not sure what the point of it is though! ——Serial ^# 10:22, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Removal of Page

Hi, how do I remove a page that is about me that I did not consent to?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:3219:C700:71D1:598A:9660:4068 (talk) 10:19, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Well,  first of all,  you have to tell us what page you mean :) but advance warning,  pages are removed from Wikipedia at the subject's own request extremely rarely.  ——Serial ^# 10:22, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Please see WP:AUTOPROB for how to proceed in this case. --ColinFine (talk) 10:33, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Newbie asking newbie questions.

Hello, members of Wikipedia. I'm pretty new to Wikipedia (don't be fooled by my join date), and I need general knowledge about how to use Wikipedia. How to make tables? How to cite? How to change the size of your font etc etc, all the useful info that a person needs to be active on Wikipedia. Thank you very much for your time. Sincerely, ChinggisKhaan (aka Luna) --Khan of Trees 11:57, 11 June 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChinggisKhaan (talk • contribs)

For tables, try Help:Table. To cite, try Help:Cite. In general you shouldn't be changing the size of font, see WP:Manual of Style and particularly MOS:FONTSIZE. I'll put some useful links in a welcome message on your user talk page. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:09, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Change logo?

Hi, I'd like to ask for some help. I would like to change a logo on Wikipedia (English version). Could you please explain the procedure? I have all the permissions and data of the new logo.

Thank you very much! Andreana — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andreanabo23 (talk • contribs) 15:39, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

@Andreanabo23: please take a look at Wikipedia:Logos. We do not want or need permission. The logo can either be non-copyrightable due to lack of creative features, or we can use it under the fair-use doctrine. If neither applies, we cannot use the logo regardless of any permissions. If you are being compensated in any way for your Wikipedia work (e.g. you are an employee of the company whose logo this is) you must adere to the WP:PAID policy (not a big deal or problem, just a policy). After reading that stuff, if you have further questions please come back here. -Arch dude (talk) 16:02, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Edit Rejection without any explanation

dear sir,

i try to edit this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Abd_al-Rahman_al-Jabarti&oldid=prev&diff=962021231

but eveytime i do so, the auther changes is back to the old wrong data, i am open for discussion but i see he is dictating his point of view and that is against wikipedia policies — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saleh.awal (talk • contribs) 17:28, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

@Saleh.awal: Wikipedia doesn't consider itself a reliable source, and neither is youtube because its user-generated. And btw, the editor gave an explanation in his edit summary. Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:38, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

yes i did replay to him but he didnt answer — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saleh.awal (talk • contribs) 17:41, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Cannot Login with old account, or create a new account

I have been attempting to login with my former account, and have gotten the following message:

"There seems to be a problem with your login session; this action has been cancelled as a precaution against session hijacking. Please resubmit the form. You may receive this message if you are blocking cookies.

I am not blocking cookies. I have resubmitted the form and gotten the same reply. I have tried creating a new account and gotten the same reply. Help please!

There are currently server issues that are being fixed. Praxidicae (talk) 19:04, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

See WP:VPT#Wiki-wide authentication problems and the associated phabricator log. --81.153.132.95 (talk) 19:06, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you!