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Now, I think Future Sun had some justification to go about deleting the article without submitting it to a vote. There have been instances when certain articles denying the genocide have been speedily deleted and permanently banned from future creation. The topic is a good one, but the title was not. "Falsification of history in Azerbaijan", even if an article with such a name exists on Russian Wiki, comes off as too strong in damning the entire field and sounds more like an essay than an encyclopedia title. If the article is on the Caucasian Albanians, then a much better title would have been "Historiography of Caucasian Albania in Azerbaijan" or if it includes, for example, Nizami, then "Historiography in Azerbaijan," and divide it by subject title.--[[User:MarshallBagramyan|Marshal Bagramyan]] ([[User talk:MarshallBagramyan|talk]]) 18:19, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
Now, I think Future Sun had some justification to go about deleting the article without submitting it to a vote. There have been instances when certain articles denying the genocide have been speedily deleted and permanently banned from future creation. The topic is a good one, but the title was not. "Falsification of history in Azerbaijan", even if an article with such a name exists on Russian Wiki, comes off as too strong in damning the entire field and sounds more like an essay than an encyclopedia title. If the article is on the Caucasian Albanians, then a much better title would have been "Historiography of Caucasian Albania in Azerbaijan" or if it includes, for example, Nizami, then "Historiography in Azerbaijan," and divide it by subject title.--[[User:MarshallBagramyan|Marshal Bagramyan]] ([[User talk:MarshallBagramyan|talk]]) 18:19, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

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Hello and welcome to my talk page! Please feel free to ask any kind of question and discuss any topic you want.

Early history of Weightlifting

Do you know if weightlifting in Armenia has a history before the Soviet era? While wrestling and boxing are more traditional, it seems weightlifting and gymnastics became popular because they were popular sports in the Soviet Union; I'm not sure though. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 18:48, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So should we take Early history off of the history section and mention in the Soviet era one that this is when weightlifting first became popular in Armenia? And Rafael Chimishkyan is from Georgia, so that really doesn't say anything about weightlifting in Armenia. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 19:07, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Chess in Armenia

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:03, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Autopatrolled

Yerevanci, I've given you the "autopatrolled" user right to signify your creation of great articles :). Keep up the good work! Ironholds (talk) 12:13, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!--Երևանցի ասելիք կա՞ 19:35, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Chess in Georgia

Hi Yerevanci. I'm sorry for a late reply. Thanks for your interest in the topic. Here're are a few sources I found about chess in Georgia: [1], [2], [3], [4]. The last two are in Georgian and I'll translate it as time permits. As for the Tbilisi Chess Palace, it is a modern building and is, according to the Georgian law, copyrighted. We have no right to upload it here, but I'll try to get the image of that building as part of panorama, which is permitted. Best, --KoberTalk 04:58, 30 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Response

Hi. Sorry it's been awhile, but please check your E-mail. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 15:27, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Heydar Aliyev's cult of personality

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:22, 6 October 2012 (UTC)§]]...200.74.163.69 (talk) 23:51, 3 January 2013 (UTC).[reply]

Wrestling reply

For the European Championships.. yeah, that's probably a good idea. Actually, I was thinking of going back to organize all the medals in the order of which they were won (most already are, but definitly not all) but this solves the problem completely. If you want to seperate the European GR and FS medals, I think it's a good idea.

But I'm not sure if we should do it for the World and (espically) Olympic medals... yet. Olympic would look wierd because there's only one freestyle medal. Not really a point. But World is likely to get bigger sooner, so it would make sense to seperate the FS and GR world medals too. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 00:23, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Montebello Genocide Memorial

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:01, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Armenian wrestling

Yeah I wish there was somewhere we could go to find the 2011 and 2012 info.

I have to disagree on both of those choices.

Both of us didn't expect to find a women medalist and I bet many Armenians will be thinking the same. So I bet they'd also be suprised and happy to see they're wrong. And Women's wrestling could pick up in popularity and success at any time.

As for the world cup... I kind of agree because I don't think Armenia will come in the top 3 again any time soon, but on the other hand, this is an important phase for Armenian wrestling. This is the first major international wrestling competition Armenia hosted and is an important part of Armenian wrestling history.

So I say keep both.

And on the topic of hosting... http://sport.news.am/arm/news/12763/erevanum-en-brncqamarti-mijazgayin-federaciayi-nerkayacucichnery.html We should mention this in the boxing page. Armenia could be close to hosting the actual World Championships, which is also pretty intriguing. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 01:06, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Good news! I just found the 2010 FILA World Cup Armenian team http://www.fila-official.com/images/FILA/resultats/2010/results_02_yerevan_gr.pdf --TheShadowCrow (talk) 01:36, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It looks great. I think Norayr Musheghian and his accomplishments should be mentioned. Also, the female wrestler doesn't have a source. TheShadowCrow (talk) 12:49, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Do you know if any of these pictures can be put on Wikipedia? http://www.wrestlingra.am/index.php?lang=en&go=veterans&mid=111 --TheShadowCrow (talk) 15:44, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Armenian boxing

Just want you to know I'm ready to put up all the medalists right after you put the medal templates up (I'd do it myself but I'm not sure if you wanted to change the critera for boxing specificly).

Also, do you plan to put both amateur and professional boxing on this page? --TheShadowCrow (talk) 00:15, 13 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yerevan article image

I think the new image I've created for the Yerevan article is much more appropriate as opposed to the montage you've put together. My image is of Featured Image quality and boosts the reputation of the article quite a bit, in my opinion. Սէրուժ (talk) 15:51, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Questions and ideas

I've decided to move forward with the idea of ethnic Armenian Olympians. Do you know how to make categories?

Also, this might sound like a bad idea, so I just want to get your opinion, but do you think it would be a good idea if, on the List of Armenian Olympic medalists page, for Olympic medalists who competed for the Soviet Union, we put somewhere which Soviet Republic they competed for?

The point would be to show who would have actually represented Armenia in the scenario that the Soviet Union was never formed and who wouldn't.

For example, Vladimir Yengibaryan would have won his medal for Armenia because he was born in the Armenian SSR and lived there his whole career, while someone like Nikita Simonyan would be an Olympic medalist for Russia even if the Soviet Union wasn't formed.

We would have to be careful which Republic they lived in. Like, even though Albert Azaryan was born in the Azerbaijan SSR, he moved to the Armenian SSR at a young age and has lived there ever since. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 00:52, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I knew it wouldn't look great. I was thinking of creating another section with their Soviet Republic and putting "N/A" in all the ones that aren't the USSR, but I like the idea of point out the ones that are from the Arm SSR best. Perhaps we could italiic something or change the color of a box. Just ideas.

Also, what do you think of the category? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Ethnic_Armenian_Olympians_who_represented_other_countries

Hope you don't mind I copied the first sentance of your medalist page, which inspired me to make this in the first place. By the way, I'm not sure if I want to include USSR Olympians or not. If you ever find any not listed, please tell me or add them, as will I if I find any missing Armenian Olympic medalists. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 23:30, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Namus (film)

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:02, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Wrestling in Armenia

The DYK project (nominate) 08:04, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Congrats!

ABC News mentioned your Aliyev cult of personality article in a report they made about him!

http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/News/azerbaijan-dictator-statue-angers-mexico-city-residents/story?id=17537534

Nice job! --TheShadowCrow (talk) 16:25, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Me to. Anyway, I've been digging up more of our foreign olympians, and I found this

http://www.armeniapedia.org/wiki/Olympics

Of course, this is the same website that said Igor Novikov was Armenian, and the spelling is terrible, so I'm pretty skeptical about it.

Do any of these people sound Armenian to you? I'm pretty sure the first and fourth aren't:

Timur Taimazov, Oleksandr Stepanyan (Wikipedia calls him Zakharuk), Amir Tavakolian, Georgeta Damian, Ditte Kotzian

If Taimazov, Damian and Kotzian are Armenian, they are not only Olympians, but Olympic medalists and can go on your List of Armenian Olympic Medalists article. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 22:09, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for George W. Bush Street

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:02, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Edmon Marukyan

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Chuck Norris facts at Peer Review

Hi there Yerevanci! I've fixed your August 2012 peer review start for Chuck Norris facts, please see Wikipedia:Peer review/Chuck Norris facts/archive1. Hopefully you'll get some helpful feedback on how to further improve the article's level of quality. Cheers, — Cirt (talk) 05:40, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

I saw it late. I removed, because I've created Category:Armenian male singers and Category:Armenian female singers. There's nothing wrong. She is still an Armenian singer :) -- Esc2003 (talk) 12:11, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I define as the family roots. Turkish-Armenian person's some or all ancestors emigrated from Turkey to America. I think Turkish-Armenian naming is not a mixed blooded person. Perhaps this category should be deleted? Esc2003 (talk) 17:09, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Russian language in the United States

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:02, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Russian language in Israel

The DYK project (nominate) 08:04, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Regarding some recent Armenian article changes

This user who goes by the name of Kentronhayastan [5], Ive noticed his edits for a while now, and they are not exactly describing who he really is. I mean to clarify to you, what im saying is if you notice his edits on the Armenian articles, he pretends he is doing good to the Armenian history, but in fact, he is corrupting it in a clever way. He is an imposter actually. I noticed for example he added a whole bunch of foreign languages to all the articles on our history, and someone else did a good job of reverting those. He basically is POV pushing just about any time in our history articles of foreign rule. He tried to put Islam in all the history articles, hah, and included like 10 other languages, where it says languages. The person that reverted him did a good job and restored the native language Armenian to be the only main language of those times. Specially the Kingdoms of Armenia , whether they were Ancient, or the Modern kingdoms like Bagratuni, and the Antiquity. He also had purposely removed the Marzpanate Mamikonian period, and the other person asked him to restore it back. Also if you can help out please restore back where it says "Armenia Major" in the Antiquity, to "Kingdom of Armenia", this is what it said earlier and this guy Kentronhayastan reverted it back to Armenia Major. Its suppose to say Kingdom of Armenia, because the only Kingdom of Armenia mentioned first is in the Middle Ages. Its showing that there was no Kingdom of Armenia in ancient times? If you notice he recently also changed Commagene to "Kingdom of Commagene", but didnt change Armenia Major to "Kingdom of Armenia". Please put back the name "Kingdom of Armenia", in our antiquity. Thank you. And if you can also remove Armeno-Phrygian from the History template also, because that was never there, and this imposter which im suspicious of is trying to ruin our history. Also he tried to change the language of the Orontid period, by saying it was Proto-Armenian, it was never Proto-Armenian, and everyone excepts that that was earlier than that time. 66.81.159.105 (talk) 07:11, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Also he is the one that made the new image for the Template [6], the one with the Armenian eternity symbol and Mount Ararat with Khor Virap there in that image on the Template History of Armenia. It use to be the Coat of Arms of Armenia, but now he put this new one which is good. But he wants to restore back the Coat of Arms, when he himself made this new image. He is purposely doing this just to ruin Armenian history and culture. Please vote to keep the new image of eternity symbol and Ararat , instead of the Coat of Arms, which is only about the Modern history. This image is better cause its about all the History etc etc. So when he puts, of if he puts a vote, please vote for the current image on the template. Thanks for your help. 66.81.159.105 (talk) 07:15, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Yerevanci. Remember there was a move discussion in 2011 at Talk:Greater Armenia (political concept)#New name which ended with No Consensus. If you still believe this article should be moved, you should open a new move discussion. A move by cutting-and-pasting is against our usual practice, since the edit history is left stranded under the old name. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 14:24, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Languages of Albania

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:02, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Languages of Armenia

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:02, 20 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Diamond industry in Armenia

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 21 November 2012 (UTC)§]]

Wikipedia:Non-free content policy and guideline

Please do not place or replace any non-free images to any pages except for actual articles, as you did at User:Yerevanci/Alexander Khatisian. Such use is a clear violation of point number 9 of our policy concerning the use of non-free images. Continuing to do so can be viewed as disruptive behaviour and you may be blocked from editing. VernoWhitney (talk) 22:17, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Copyrights

FYI, I've also just tagged two articles you created (Boxing in Armenia and Armenchik) as containing close paraphrase issues. You never replied to my previous message regarding paraphrase issues, but I'm going to assume that you read it and the other pages I recommended you read at that time. Is it possible that there are more issues where you have copied or closely paraphrased a copyrighted source? VernoWhitney (talk) 22:47, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Your addition to Sos Sargsyan has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text, or images borrowed from other websites, or printed material without a verifiable license; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of article content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

Since you did not reply to my inquiry above about the possibility of additional problems and have since told me that you are not interested in fixing any prior copyright problems, I am leaving you this formal copyvio warning regarding another instance I discovered and removed. This was not an arguable example of close paraphrasing, but of nearly verbatim copying. While this particular example was from April and so normally I would not leave a templated message for an active editor, I feel that you need some additional urging to begin taking copyright issues seriously. If you choose to respond to this message, please do so here rather than on my talk page in order to avoid splitting the conversation. VernoWhitney (talk) 02:26, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe I misstated what I meant or I was just too harsh. Anyway, if you do find any copyright violation just put the article's name below this and I'll try rewrite them. --Երևանցի ասելիք կա՞ 02:46, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Weightlifting in Armenia

Looks ready to upload. Also, I'm going to make the changes on Boxing I mentioned. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 01:23, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Notice

I responded to you on the Weightlifting page. I was wondering if you could do something for me.

I'm not sure if I spelled the Armenian name right for Vaghinak Galstyan. If it's wrong, will you fix it?

I don't know the Armenian surename for Araik Baghdadyan. Can you add it? --TheShadowCrow (talk) 22:26, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok then. And I was wondering, how did you crop the Vardanyan picture? --TheShadowCrow (talk) 01:07, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Appreciate the offer, but I just figured out how to crop my files so that won't be necessary. Thanks though. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 01:23, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Response

I responded to your last post here--Template:Did you know nominations/Race, ethnicity and religion in censuses. Please check it out whenever you'll have time. Thank you. Futurist110 (talk) 19:50, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I responded again. Also, feel free to make a map for this article if you want to. Futurist110 (talk) 07:52, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I responded again. Futurist110 (talk) 09:04, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Notice

I was thinking of changing the order of the medalists on List of Armenian Olympic medalists to be in the order of which they were won. Would you mind if I did that?--TheShadowCrow (talk) 19:21, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Map Comments

Hello Yerevanci,

In regards to this map of yours--, very nice job. However, there are a couple of errors and things that I'd like to point out:

  • Race and ethnicity are often used interchangeably, and thus it's better to just have all of the countries that enumerate or have previously enumerated people by race and/or ethnicity be in one color (such as red)
  • Your map does not have South Sudan as a separate country (this is more of a minor thing, considering that South Sudan became independent in 2011)
  • Slovakia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Algeria, Angola, the Bahamas, Bahrain, Belize, Benin, Bolivia, Brunei, Burma, Burundi, Cape Verde, the Central African Republic, Chad, Chile, China, the Democratic Republic of Congo, the Republic of Congo, Costa Rica, Cote D'Ivoire, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Dominican Republic, East Timor, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Germany, Ghana, Guatemala, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, Hungary, Indonesia, Ireland, Israel, Jamaica, Lesotho, Mali, Monaco, Mongolia, Morocco, Nepal, Niger, Nigeria, Panama, Papua New Guinea, the Philippines, Senegal, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Swaziland, Tanzania, Thailand, Togo, Tunisia, Turkey, Vatican City, Vietnam, Yemen, Botswana, Namibia, and all of the former USSR needs to be colored in red. All of these countries also enumerated their population by race and/or ethnicity at some period in time, and some of them still enumerate their population by race and/or ethnicity right now. If this is too much work for you, feel free to do it later or to just delete your map from that article. Thank you very much. Futurist110 (talk) 21:11, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
If you're going by countries that did this since 1991, then Bosnia and Herzegovina and Namibia would count, since they did this in 1991. Bahrain, Belize, Benin, Bolivia, Brunei, Chad, Chile, China, Gabon, Ghana, Guyana, Indonesia, Ireland, Jamaica, Turkmenistan, Mongolia, Nepal, Panama, Slovakia, Vietnam, and Yemen should also be included, since they fit into your category. I added info for some countries since you made your map, which might help explain the discrepancy. Burma should have its own color/category, since it would not fit your since 1991 criteria just yet, but it will with its new census in 2014. Futurist110 (talk) 21:30, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Very nice job on the revised map but there are still a couple of errors. Belize and Vietnam need to be colored red. Nepal also needs to be colored red while Bhutan needs to be colored gray--you mixed those two up on your map. Finally, it would be nice to have color Burma pink since they will have a census for race/ethnicity in two years but it will be their first one in over 20 years. Finally, I added a category for Singapore on my article as well, so Singapore needs to be colored red as well. Also, some tiny island countries (such as Fiji) need to be colored in, but feel free to ignore them on the map since they are too tiny and insignificant (and since the article already mentions them anyway). Futurist110 (talk) 01:13, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Amazing job. I just added Kenya, Rwanda, and Uganda to my article, which means that they will need to be made red on your map. Also, is my DYK? for that article good to go now, or should I do anything else in order to fix it? Futurist110 (talk) 02:17, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I forgot--Tajikistan needs to be colored red as well. I'm sorry if this is bothersome for you, but I forgot about it before. Futurist110 (talk) 07:23, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Boxing in Armenia

Hello. You have some stuff pending at your DYK nomination. Cheers. ComputerJA (talk) 07:32, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Boxing

You wrote that. And this is the source you got it from. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 13:28, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's no problem. And thanks for correcting the spelling of the Armenian names of articles I made. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 21:56, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestions

I have some ideas and I was wondering if I could get your input on them.

For the Armenians page, I was wondering if you'd agree with the inclusion in the infobox of:

And the outclusion of Cher because she doesn't consider her biological father to be her "real father."


And for the Armenian Americans page, do you agree with the idea of swamping Kim Kardashian's picture with Kirk Kerkorian's? --TheShadowCrow (talk) 02:00, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Glad we could agree on Cher. She didn't even know she was Armenian for a lot of her life. She has no business being there.
Shahinyan important in my opinion and i got a neat picture of him I'm uploading later. we can decide then. I understans two chess players might seem to much, but they are both from different eras and chess is a big part of Armenian culture. Kerkorian was ranked in the top 50 richest men of all time. I think he's very important. I know you and a lot of people don't like LTP but there's no denying his signifigance. When there are more Armenian presidents, he will very important for being the first. Sirusho might be the most famous current artist and she did arguably win the ESC, which is very well known. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 16:55, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Armenian names

Do you mind checking the Armenian names of these people:

--TheShadowCrow (talk) 02:16, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Here are some more:

these should be the last for awhile. Now I'm going to focus on expanding already existing athletes. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 17:37, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright question about a map

Regarding this map which you submitted: File:Northern artsakh ethnic map.png. The copyright info says that the map was created by Samvel Karapetian, but is now in the public domain. However, the cited source is a PDF report, which bears these notices: © Samvel Karapetian, 2007, © Research on Armenian Architecture (RAA) Organization. So how do we know that this map is in the public domain? The banner says

The person who associated a work with this deed has dedicated the work to the public domain by waiving all of his or her rights to the work worldwide under copyright law, including all related and neighboring rights, to the extent allowed by law. You can copy, modify, distribute and perform the work, even for commercial purposes, all without asking permission.

Who did the waiving? Was it Samvel Karapetian? Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 06:41, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yurik Vardanyan

Hi. You've probably seen it already, but what do you think of the current Vardanyan article? I remember you called him your favorite Olympian so I wanted to be sure you saw it.

The article is near perfect. There's just two problems. First of all, I didn't say exactly why or when Yurik returned to Armenia. Second, There are mentions on some Armenian news sites about him having some sort of current political position (Two examples: http://news.am/eng/news/1390.html http://news.am/eng/news/38790.html) but none specify exactly what that is.

I was wondering if you could help me find the answers, because I bet there is an article somewhere in Armenian or Russian that has the answers I need. If it helps, I believe the Vardanyan's returned to Armenia some time between 2007-2010. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 23:48, 11 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. But did you find out when and why (if the is a reason why) he returned to Armenia?
Also, Azaryan's Russian Wikipedia page says he was voted Armenian Athlete of the 2000 century by Armenian sports puplishers. Do you know a source for that? --TheShadowCrow (talk) 22:51, 12 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Quick ?

Would you know how to fix the copyright description for the Garabet Yazmaciyan photos? For example, File:Gardensyazmaciyan.jpg. Im afraid they might be deleted. Proudbolsahye (talk) 22:33, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks alot! If you live in Los Angeles you should come out to the The Armenian Military In The Byzantine Empire lecture at the Glendale Library at 6 today. Proudbolsahye (talk) 23:17, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Hayazn

Materialscientist (talk) 10:52, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Weightlifting in Armenia

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:07, 18 December 2012 (UTC)§]]},[reply]

Orphaned non-free image File:Sardarapat Movement logo.gif

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Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 20:45, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Mkdw. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Twerking, and have un-reviewed it again. If you've got any questions, please ask me on my talk page. Thanks, Mkdw

hi

I haven't seen any such list, and I'm not sure the electoral authorities of Lebanon maintain such a listing. To be clear regarding Lebanese elections, the candidates are identified by religion whilst the voters aren't. Each seat in parliament is earmarked for a particular religious community, but the eligible voters are all the inhabitants in the area from all religions. In the old set-up (i.e. prior to the Taif Agreement), there were 4 Armenian Orthodox seats, 3 in Beirut I and 1 in Matn, and 1 Armenian Catholic seat (in Beirut I). --Soman (talk) 09:51, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Photos for an article

I really need your help for an article im creating. The article is regarding the anti-armenian hate rally in Istanbul on February 2012. I need to put a picture up. But I don't know the copyrights to them and licensing. The picture is included in the following websites. http://www.nationalturk.com/en/khodzhaly-massacre-protests-gone-wrong-in-istanbul-you-are-all-armenian-you-are-all-bastards-16707 http://www.focushaber.com/-hepiniz-ermenisiniz-hepiniz-picsiniz--h-115245.html http://yevaylen.wordpress.com/2012/02/26/hepiniz-turkuz-hepiniz-picsiniz/ I would greatly greatly appreciate it! Thank you! Proudbolsahye (talk) 01:30, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Charles Garabed Atamian

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Charles Garabed Atamian article received 1000+ views in one day....SUCCESS! :D Proudbolsahye (talk) 05:36, 25 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

New DYK

What do you think of my DYK... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/2012_Istanbul_Anti-Armenian_protests ...do you think it is qualified or will be qualified? Proudbolsahye (talk) 05:54, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Inch es gartsum? Talk:2012_Istanbul_Anti-Armenian_protests...do you have email by the way? Proudbolsahye (talk) 22:12, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That's weird. There's no such link as "E-mail this user". Proudbolsahye (talk) 22:33, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Armenian Americans

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I said on article Talk page. One more edit on my Talk page and I will file a vandalism complaint. Do you understand English?--XLR8TION (talk) 22:56, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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I told you NOT to write on my Talk page. Will be reporting to administrators for vandalism.--XLR8TION (talk) 05:41, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Remove comment, please

Would you be willing to remove or strike out your comment on Talk:Murder of Sevag Balıkçı that E4024 didn't like? While don't think that your comment quite rises to the level of a personal attack, using a term of endearment for someone you have recently had conflict is likely to be perceived as uncivil, even if you did not mean it that way. In the interest of promoting a more collaborative environment, would you please consider striking/redacting that phrase? Qwyrxian (talk) 13:54, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am curious how is calling one 'friend' uncivil? Remember WP:AGF. --Երևանցի talk 16:23, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
E4024 considers it uncivil because prior conversations the two of you had make it very clear that neither one of you considers the other a friend. There is no way that you could possibly mistake relationship with you as one of friendship. Furthermore, after he indicated that he found it offensive, that should be a clear indication that you may want to reconsider. Even if you did mean it nicely, I'm asking now that you redact it so that further progress can be made collaboratively. Qwyrxian (talk) 12:01, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Boxing in Armenia

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This article may have issues that I addressed in discussion. In order to pass nomination, these issues must be fixed. --George Ho (talk) 07:01, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Still has issues since AFD. Transcluded discussion for you. --George Ho (talk) 19:30, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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that SPI was a close one...Proudbolsahye (talk) 02:08, 13 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Help with a song?

Hi Yerevanci,

This is kind of a random request and isn't really related to Wikipedia matters at all, but I require the help of a native Armenian speaker to help me decipher a song in Armenian. You are the first editor with such qualifications that comes to my mind from the few passing interactions we've had (I'm the guy who helped defend you from some bullying by a local AA-area clique back when you started out, remember? :D), so I figured I'd ask you.

Anyway, the song I'm trying to work out is called "Bari Aragil" (Բարի Արագիլ), specifically this version performed by Serj Tankian (of SOAD fame) and Khachatour Tankian in what is I believe the Western dialect. My main concern is less any translation and more the original Armenian—I like picking up bits and pieces of pretty much any language I can get my hands on, and songs are a great way to do that. I'm working on compiling a text document on my computer at the moment with the Armenian song lyrics in Armenian script, with parallel ad hoc Eastern and Western transliterations; I may try to make a good translation further down the road as well.

Using Armenian lyrics found online for different versions (e.g. [7]) as well as this transliteration of the lyrics and some online translators and dictionaries, I've managed to piece together most of the song. I think I have everything except the 5th stanza (by the reckoning of the "transliteration" link), which has me pretty stumped. This is what I have for that part thus far; gaps in my understanding are indicated:

Արագիլ, ինձ հետ ուրախ, (???)
Արագիլ, ինձ հետ ուրախ, (???)
Արագիլ, ինձ հետ ուրախ, (???)
Եկուր ինձ հետ ով (?????) ուրախ, բարի արագիլ

So yeah, if you can help me with this, that'd be great! You don't have to, though.

~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 07:04, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm more than happy to help you. Let me give you some information about the song's origin. The lyrics were written by Ashot Grashi in Eastern Armenian, probably in 1940s, though I'm not sure, because I couldn't find the exact date. The music is by Alexey Ekimyan, who was the head of Criminal Investigation Department of Moscow during the Soviets, which is very hard to imagine. Anyway, the song is very popular in Armenia and I don't think you can find one person who never heard it in their lifetime. My grandpa used to sing it also and now when he's dead the value of "Bari Aragil" is even more greater for me.
The version you mentioned (Tankian's) is more of an improvisation than just a performance of the song. As you may already know, Tankian was born in Lebanon, where Armenians speak the Western dialect, because the overwhelming majority of Lebanese Armenians are Armenian Genocide survivors and their descendants.
This version by Shusan Petrosyan is more closer to the original, but I do like Tankian's version better, because he and his dad sing it with more emotions.
The 5th stanza you're talking about isn't part of the original lyrics and it was added by Tankian. I don't where it is from and why Tankian chose to incorporate it into the song. --Երևանցի talk 17:15, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hm, interesting. I figured it had some history behind it, but didn't have time to sift through all the Serj-related links and whatnot to find a good examination on the history. I'd listened to the Petrosyan version as well during my attempts to reconstruct the song, but I like the Tankians' version much better as well—both for their emotions, as you put it, as a longtime Serj/SOAD fan.
Yeah, I figured that stanza was some sort of improvisational addition. Happens fairly often with these kinds of folk-y songs in pretty much any language, I've found. Can you understand what they are saying in it? ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 20:13, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It's hard to translate, but I'l give it a try.
Yar is a colloquial word meaning "dear", mostly used in a romantic way. Sometimes it can mean boyfriend/girlfriend. In this case, it seems to be a nice way of calling the stork.
I don't know whjat ya dayr means. I don't thinks that's a word, even in the Western dialect. I tried to closely listen what Serj is saying, but couldn't understand. It basically says, "Come with me, kind stork"
Hope it helped. If you have anymore questions, just ask. I'll try to help as much as I can. If you do care, or are interested in Armenian folk songs, then I suggest listening to Zartir lao. It's like the unofficial anthem of Armenians. --Երևանցի talk 22:07, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"Ya dayr" (sounds to me closer to "yai dar", but I don't really know) is where I've found myself stuck as well. Can't seem to find a combination of letters there that yields a meaningful result in any dictionary or translator. Like I said, the original Armenian is what interests me most here. I'll keep puttering around with it. Thanks for your help, though! I'll definitely check out Zartir lao as well. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 20:05, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Mount Ararat is in the territory of current Turkey and this shows that the coordinates put by Yerevanchi are definitely wrong. The coordinates he put wrongly show that it is in current Armenia. Therefore the notification on my talk page is irrelevant. Best, Konullu (talk) 14:03, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Armenian American

I've started the Good Article review at Armenian American. This article clearly has the potential to become a GA, but some work still needs to be done. I've put the review on hold for now to give you a week to address these issues-- you can see details on the review page. Thanks for all your work! That's an impressive list of DYKs you have above. Cheers, -- Khazar2 (talk) 03:59, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm slightly bemused that you claim this edit was unexplained. The edit summary is an explanation. But anyway, an election for one specific city shouldn't be on a national template, and should have its own template (like {{Tokyo elections}} or {{Bangkok elections}}. Cheers, Number 57 23:22, 2 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A cheeseburger for you!

Just wanted to say thanks for all your hard work at Armenian American. Cheers, Khazar2 (talk) 06:16, 3 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Vano Siradeghyah

Barev Yerevanci. I've noticed that you've begun working on a draft of Vano Siradeghyan. Would you have any objections to me making some edits to the article? They will largely consist of grammar corrections and improvements to the lede? Thanks.--Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 19:00, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2013-02 List of cities in the European Union by Muslim population

"Are you kidding me?" (Yerevanci) I am not. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 21:42, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"I'm the one whose deleting the formatting?" (Yerevanci) Yes, you are, deleting the exclamation mark labelling "this cell is a header cell" on "City" and "Country" cells. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 21:42, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"Why is the cell 'city proper' above the city list and 'metro area' above the country list? Shouldn't they be above the percent of Muslims living in those two areas?" (Yerevanci) Yes, they should. And they are, in both your and my revision. Uh wait. It was the reverse with javascript enabled. My mistake. My apologies. This should be fixed now. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 21:42, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Re:

Now, I think Future Sun had some justification to go about deleting the article without submitting it to a vote. There have been instances when certain articles denying the genocide have been speedily deleted and permanently banned from future creation. The topic is a good one, but the title was not. "Falsification of history in Azerbaijan", even if an article with such a name exists on Russian Wiki, comes off as too strong in damning the entire field and sounds more like an essay than an encyclopedia title. If the article is on the Caucasian Albanians, then a much better title would have been "Historiography of Caucasian Albania in Azerbaijan" or if it includes, for example, Nizami, then "Historiography in Azerbaijan," and divide it by subject title.--Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 18:19, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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