User talk:Bishonen

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Thank you Penyulap for the unique hamster-powered fairybread barnstar!

Larus occidentalis, stolen from ContinueWithCaution's userpage. I like gulls.

A barnstar for you!

	Momentum award
	This is how I see your momentum. Always moving (things) forward. Drmies (talk) 16:47, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

all ze bishes!

-- Aunva6^{talk - contribs} 17:57, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

RAWR! Have a good break, Bish! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:33, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Have a good break as well, Bishonen. Best wishes, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 21:01, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

i should say, check the link, (hint, hint). -- Aunva6^{talk - contribs} 21:02, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

I did click, Aunva6! I think that Bish would find committee work awfully dull but who knows? I'd vote for her. ;-) Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:42, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Waiting

Waiting for you in the bushes, like Mies duck, the rubber duck he blew up with a bycicle pump, when he was five. Hafspajen (talk) 23:41, 13 November 2013 (UTC).

KENT: Is this the promised ente
EDGAR: Or image of that horror?
ALBANY: Fall, and cease! (King Lear, Act V, scene iii, ll 261-262)

It's surely not Spring in Europe already?

It would appear that April 1st is appearing twice on the calendar this year.  Giano  10:48, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

How I wish I could laugh about this. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 12:20, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Of course you can laugh; he doesn't stand a snowball's chance in Hell of being elected - there's more chance of Jimbo proposing marriage to Lady C than there is of him ever being elected to the Arbcom.  Giano  13:24, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Is there any chance of some semblance of management showing up Giano? — ChedZILLA 02:14, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Management of what exactly?  Giano  10:29, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

• I expect Mr Ched means is Mrs Bishonen likely to make an appearance in the near future? I think she's tired of Wikipedia at the moment - can't say that I blame her; it's a pretty poor state of affairs when one has to deal with idiots constantly, which she does. Her only joy is the likes of me, and I suppose you and a few others coming here to her salon. As a matter of fact, she's currently staying with me for some recuperation at my beautiful, cliff top villa at Cap Ferat where I am giving her the full benefit of my wisdom and experience of Wikipedia - especially my considerable knowledge of Mr Gerard which will take some considerable time to impart in full! The Lady Catherine de Burgh (talk) 12:17, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

PS: I forgot to mention I am preparing a a small guide on the candidates for this year's election. I think you will find it very perceptive and informative. I shall be expanding it over the next few weeks as I gain more insight and opinion. The Lady Catherine de Burgh (talk) 22:22, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Bishzilla is extremely impressed. Always tries to model herself on Lady Catherine! Quickly creates her own voter guide. bishzilla _ROARR!! 15:43, 21 November 2013 (UTC).

Aww, Bishzilla - how sweet! Thanks for the mention. Risker (talk) 16:21, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

from Ched

{{{hugs}}} — ChedZILLA 11:34, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Räyh! + Random Shakespeare

Are any of the bish family related to Hevisaurus? --Shirt58 (talk) 11:53, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Wish someone would show ME a Hevisaurus. Hafspajen (talk) 17:49, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Gabriela Isler

Hi, I have included a well sourced incident concerning Gabriela Isler in her article. Now another user who is a evident pageant fan and huge fan of Isler removes the sourced material. And he also left me a quite nasty message at my talk page. I might be wrong but I think Wikipedia should not censor material even if it does not favour the person. Perhaps a change of the "controversy"name or similar would do. We have other Miss Universe winners articles which includes similar material of incidents such a Leila Lopes. Isler is a public figure now and tweets about a president is notable in this context I think. Regards, --BabbaQ (talk) 13:56, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

On this special day

Feel free to exchange this with me for cupcakes if you don't like it. I'll totally eat it if you don't!
- Exchanging it for s'm crumbs. Hehehe. darwinbish ^{I'm here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubblegum!} ☠, 10:47, 29 November 2013 (UTC).

I know where you are, this is just an ordinary Thursday. But it still seemed a suitable day to say that I'm thankful for Bishonen being on Wikipedia! And even more thankful that Bishzilla still hasn't burnt me to a crisp. Happy Thanksgiving/ordinary Thursday! Heimstern Läufer (talk) 03:11, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Like but better give the 'zilla some of that pie or else she might come over here and cause trouble! =:-O Montanabw^(talk) 17:07, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure if Bishzilla would be into pie or not, but I'm certain she'd appreciate a juicy turkey (or twenty)! — Huntster (t @ c) 00:03, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

So far the 'zilla hasn't eaten her pony, so I think she has adequate discernment, though I'm sure a juicy turkey (or twenty) would also be appreciated! Montanabw^(talk) 02:18, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

I moved a piece of the pie to a safe place ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:43, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

Hiya Bishpack! Sorry I missed your mention a while back asking for help. I don't come around here much anymore. Miss you! Tex (talk) 14:50, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Ha, it's the cupcake with the crack on top! [Dives in. Leaves some fractions of the cupcake, minus the chocolate chips, for the baby Texes.] darwinbish ^{I'm having technical difficulties with my attitude today} ☠, 15:40, 6 December 2013 (UTC).

The Wikipedia Library Survey

As a subscriber to one of The Wikipedia Library's programs, we'd like to hear your thoughts about future donations and project activities in this brief survey. Thanks and cheers, Ocaasi ^{t | c} 15:50, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

In the Meantime

[1]--Mr Fink (talk) 04:37, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Handsome Tiktaalik! bishapod talk to your inner fish 18:53, 15 December 2013 (UTC).

Kafziel arbitration case opened

You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Kafziel. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Kafziel/Evidence. Please add your evidence by December 29, 2013, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Kafziel/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 22:33, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Joyous Noel

And a worrying Christmas to you, too!

My dearest Mrs Bishonen, I note that you've been rather tardy in your edits of late! I was wondering about the Arbcom results I have been in South Africa burying poor Mr Mandela and trying to avoid that grinning Mr Obama, who kept trying to take photographs of himself together with me on his mobile phone - naturally I was heavily veiled and refused; one has to show some decorum. I have to confess, I was surprised not to see the World's only remaining living saint, Mr Wales, in the VIP enclosure with me, but I suppose there can only be space for major global celebrities - at least he was spared the Prince of Wales lecturing us all on tribal dancing and vegetable growing - two subjects very close to his heart besides the poor, dear Duchess. My concern is that I have not been asked to appoint the new Arbs; as Wikipedia's First Lady that is my ceremonial role - I expect they are still checking them for corruption and debauchery; that will take years no doubt. Now, my main purpose, and on to poor, dear, little Mrs Risker; one feels for her, her life must seem very empty now - I have offered her the position of my general factotum and No 1 Lady-in-Waiting, I trust you will advise her to accept. Now, I can't stop here chatting to you all day, I am flying to Sicily this evening, for Christmas, my nephew (the good looking intelligent one) is performing some antiquated ceremony involving goats and wants the whole family in attendance. So from your humble, unworthy page, I take this opportunity to wish all my loyal subjects a very Happy Christmas and Joyful New Year. The Lady Catherine de Burgh (talk) 19:45, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Bishonen is sulking, but I'm here! Risker may be overwhelmed by the honour. Probably better I do it. Bring on the goats! darwinbish ^{I actually don't need to control my anger. Everyone around needs to control their habit of pissing me off.} ☠, 21:43, 17 December 2013 (UTC).

As the appointment ceremony for new Arbs involves kissing Jimbo's ring, I wonder if the Lady Catherine would be entirely comfortable with performing that function if required? --RexxS (talk) 23:04, 17 December 2013 (UTC) P.S. Nyårsklockan, T-RexxS is back. P.P.S. I heard that Jimmy is due to get an honorary knighthood in the News Years Honours List. Anybody heard the same?

Indeed, is all over the grapevine here up north. A sainthood, presumably! bishzilla _ROARR!! 00:17, 18 December 2013 (UTC).

That man is less and less coherent as time progresses...I can't for the life of me understand anything about his latest rambling...--MONGO 16:47, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Periferigenilerimini

Hello Bishonen. Do you remember Periferigenilerimini (talk · contribs), the now-blocked editor who (1) was concerned exclusively with Romanian reality TV, (2) always used the minor edit flag, even after being asked not to, (3) engaged in disruption such as blanking and copyright violations, and (4) was utterly uncommunicative? I am pretty certain they're back with a couple sockpuppets, both of which fit the pattern exactly. See Ingsiiang (talk · contribs) and Croniciledinnarnia (talk · contribs). I've already tried to communicate with both accounts several times and warned them about the disruptive behaviour, but as with the Periferigenilerimini account there's been no communication whatsoever. Perhaps you'd like to confirm all this and block them as sockpuppets, as the evidence is pretty overwhelming to me, though if you prefer I can raise a SPI instead. —Psychonaut (talk) 17:09, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi Bishonen! Thanks for your messages. I hope you are enjoying your holidays. When you get back, you might want to consider blocking Jeremiahmimi (talk · contribs), which is an obvious sock of User:Paulika1995 (the oldest account in the family which includes User:Periferigenilerimini, User:Croniciledinnarnia, and User:Ingsiiang). I agree that a near-total lack of English comprehension is probably the reason they have not responded to any messages. Unfortunately this means they're unable to understand why they are acting disruptively and how they can bring their behaviour into line with the project's policies and guidelines. :( It also means that they're probably unsure why their old accounts aren't working any more, and that they will continue to create new ones to evade the block. Semi-protection of the affected pages is one option of dealing with this, and one I'd normally try in the first instance except that there are a lot of pages involved here. An IP block (including a block on account creation) is another option, though the latter will require checkuser to discover this person's IP or IP range. Any thoughts? —Psychonaut (talk) 23:26, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. I have opened an SPI report at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Paulika1995. —Psychonaut (talk) 12:14, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

There's damn few people I care enough about ...but you have always been special to me. Merry Christmas Bish. — ChedZILLA 00:25, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Merry Christmas (or, as we say over here, 聖誕快樂, feel free to offer your IKEA interpretation!) from me too, Bish. And the same to you, Ched! Heimstern Läufer (talk) 03:24, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Glad Tidings and all that ...

FWiW Bzuk (talk) 23:49, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Happy holidays

Happy Yuletides!

Merry Yuletides to you! (And a happy new year!) Hafspajen (talk) 15:29, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Tis the Season

	Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!
	Hope the holidays and new year are good to you! And please don't let Bishzilla eat little Bob over there. — Huntster (t @ c) 21:46, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

No, no. Bishzilla brimming with spirit of the season. Stuffs little Bob into pocket here. bishzilla _ROARR!! 15:08, 25 December 2013 (UTC).

Happy holiday season....

	Cheers, pina coladas all round!
	Damn need a few of these after a frenetic year and Xmas. Hope yours is a good one....Cheers, Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:04, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

The Seasons Felicitations

The only thing I have missed as regards Wikipedia are some of the people. You are one of them. Have a delicious 2014. LessHeard vanU (talk) 01:22, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Gabriella

Yeah, I keep forgetting that it's only rejected unblocks and non-block active sanctions they can't remove. My bad. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 22:23, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi, George. Look at this, lol. And here she's messing about inside your comment, see it? A child? Do feel free to remove tp access. Or to continue wasting your time with her if you prefer, of course. Bishonen | talk 00:35, 28 December 2013 (UTC).

Dana Ewell

Hi, could you take a look at user Bethana24 edits on Dana Ewell. The new user has an obvious pro-Ewell stance and the article makes it sound like he didnt have any part in the murders but was framed. And the user is also doing unsourced claims of another person involved in the case being the killer. I would like to remove the information all together and go back to the version before Bethana24s first edit. But I rather ask your opinion first. I wouldnt be surprised if the user is somehow connected to Dana Ewell in some capacity. Take a look. Regards,--BabbaQ (talk) 20:09, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

• (talk page stalker) @BabbaQ: In Bishonen's absence I have reverted the edits on Dana Ewell and left a message on Bethana24's talk page. While my words may not carry the same weight as Bishonen's, it's a first step... Thomas.W ^{talk to me} 20:44, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

As I suspected the edits would be reverted. Thank you!--BabbaQ (talk) 20:45, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Thomas. The account was only registered today. Rather than threaten them with blocks, I've semiprotected the article to give them time to read policy, enter into discussion, and tell us whether they have any COI. Bishonen | talk 22:22, 28 December 2013 (UTC).

Happy Holidays!

Happy Holidays to you as well! You are a very good editor, as am I. Let's hope that I don't semi-retire again as I did back in August due to issues with long-term abusive editors. Take care, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 01:56, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Disappointing

Hi Bishonen this is rather disappointing. There are some times, when a little shit should be told he's a little shit, and really Jehochman's conduct now isn't any better than Daedalus969 back then when you absolutely correctly called him "little shit". Delete, but think about it. Regards.24.6.41.1 (talk) 18:12, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Hello little anonymous coward. Why don't you login? Be proud of your comments and claim them as your own. Jehochman ^Talk 18:14, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Jehochman, I am very proud of my comment, and proud of everything I've done for Wikipedia, but I lost my name, my real name to "an angry mob" you described, except, Jehochman, you have not a slightest idea how it feels when one is being attacked by an angry mob, I mean really attacked... Okay... Peace, Jehochman, and Happy New Year to everybody!24.6.41.1 (talk) 18:39, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

You have my sympathy for being attacked by a mob. Peace to you too, and Happy New Year! Jehochman ^Talk 18:46, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Happy New Year

Happy New Year! Hope you are having a lovely time!!!! All the best for you, my child, Bish, darwinbish, Bishonen, Bishzilla and more!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hafspajen (talk) 19:37, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Hehe, all the socks! (Never forget Cassandra at the peak of her insanity, though. She's trouble!) Hope you had a great time and listened reverently to the recitation of Alfred Lord Tennisball's rousing poem from Skansen at midnight! Bishonen | talk 19:06, 1 January 2014 (UTC).

• Damn how could I miss the Alfred Lord Tennisball's poem from Skansen... terribly sad thing, indeed. Hafspajen (talk) 23:45, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

P.S. Such Hack. Many Dogecoin. So Gone. Wow! :-( Cassandra at the peak of her insanity (crazytalk) 00:13, 2 January 2014 (UTC).

I have several thousand in my mining pool at the moment, I mine coins as a way of keeping my dorm room warm, and i've made about $100 in a couple months so far. that video is hilarious too. -- Aunva6^{talk - contribs} 01:58, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

And look what I made to cheer on the new year! Bwhahahahaaa

I too wish you felicious new years cheer! Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 01:45, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Arghhh, it's the M00sezilla, take cover! Run, Bishzilla! Bishonen | talk 19:06, 1 January 2014 (UTC).

Happy new year bish! I'm sorry, but, I removed File:Shibe Inu Doge meme.jpg from the message above under criteria 9 of the WP:NFCC, restrictions on location. If you have any questions, please let me know. I figured this would be better than a bot appearing on your userpage, removing the image, and templating you. --Guerillero | My Talk 22:49, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks, Guerillero. Actually I thought someone might remove it. Removing the Doge does make Cassandra's comment about Dogecoin look extremely inconsequential, but then she's known to be insane. Happy new year, pity you didn't get in! I voted for you. Bishonen | talk 15:07, 3 January 2014 (UTC).

Thank you Bish, that means a ton to me, though, I think I have a thesis adviser and a ladyfriend that are happy I am not an arb. --Guerillero | My Talk 22:15, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

MilesMoney block

For whatever reason, MM decided this post was a personal attack and removed it. I won't belabor the point, but thought that consideration of the consequences should be weighed before action being taken. Not removing the block might actually be in his best interest, as the flood that is likely to occur on ANI surely won't help his cause.Two kinds of pork (talk) 05:23, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

74.192.84.101

Hello, remember the IP that drowned Talk:Rupert Sheldrake in a tsunami of text? Among the flood of comments were "battle factions" charts giving his WP:BATTLEGROUND assessment of the talk page.[2] After I reverted the obviously-inappropriate battleground material, he inserted it again[3].

Well the battle faction charts are back again, this time on his user page and with greater detail, and he's even advertised them at ANI.[4] (The charts also misrepresent me and others, but that's another matter.) The Sheldrake article continues hold the attention of pro-paranormal websites that promote a full-bore battleground mentality, and these charts reinforce that view.

Earlier you employed your considerable diplomatic skill in getting this person to quit flooding the Sheldrake page. Could you explain to him why this battleground stuff is inappropriate? vzaak 17:39, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

I suspect the reason Vzaak thinks it "inappropriate" for anybody but themselves to display charts of selected WMFLABS data, is that their own username pops right to the top of the all-time-mainspace-contributors chart, whereas I only managed ninth-place-talkpage-rank (and am within five edits of falling to eleventh-place ... vzaak is third-place-talkpage). Charts of such data inherently cannot *create* a battleground; they can only describe such. And boy, does the battleground exist! That said, I would be more than happy to correct any mischaracterizations that Vzaak sees in chart#3, and offered as much right in the posting on my talkpage; it is a hand-compiled chart, so errors are certainly possible.

explanation of chart#0 by Vzaak, my attempted Oct'13 response they deleted, talkpage semi-prot AN/I caused by Vzaak, & my attempted Dec'13 response they've again deleted

The first chart, when you were called into the June-through-present-basket-case last time, was in response to Vzaak's chart (the zeroth chart I suppose). My second chart was just a copy of my first, pasted into a separate section a few minutes later; Vzaak complained there was too much on redundancy with their chart#0, but when I directly added a column (clearly labelled as added by me), Vzaak then turned around and cited wiki-etiquette. So I pasted the second chart in a new section, which Vzaak deleted; my full chart#2 was battling, their partial chart#0 was not. That was in October; Vzaak ignored all my questions and comments, that month and the next.   Deleting the third chart was the first time they've addressed me, since then, in fact... despite copious opportunity during the first half of November. My third chart was created for the AN/I difficulties of mid-December; Vzaak had requested that the NPOV-dispute article-talkpage be semi-protected from all IPs, at a point when there were 21 posts in the month so far by IPs, two percent of the total 997 talkpage-posts (50/day) at that point circa December ~19th. One of those talkpage-posts was from me!  :-)   It was not even long. Eleven were from a sockpuppet, which Vzaak invesigated and eliminated within 48 hours, on linguistic & geoIP grounds. The other nine IP postings were from three different countries, and totally not disruptive, that I saw. The AN/I thread was closed as being a valid application of WP:IAR, to try and pre-emptively quiet down the 50-posts-per-day basket-case. I was mostly okay with that, it was only for two weeks; and I love pillar five best of all.   Since that point back in October, a good handful of other editors have been banned (about half of them socks), including most recently, one between Christmas Eve and Boxing Day... and it doesn't look like that will be the end of things, either. The previous ArbCom rejected the case that was brought, suggesting AE... see also, WP:9STEPS.

Anyhoo, since you're still on partial-wikibreak, feel free to send Bishzilla over instead. If they are also busy, please pick another admin, preferably one that asks questions first.  :-)   Thanks for improving wikipedia, and happy proleptic gregorian increment. — 19:56, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi guys, very sorry I've taken so long to get to this. I had to recover from the shock of vzaak's reference to my "considerable diplomatic skill"; that's a new one. Might you be referring to the time I told 74 that I'd rather not read the whole of his post because I wasn't feeling very well and didn't want to feel any worse? :-) There's tact and diplomacy. 74, I do in fact find the size and number and variety of your posts overwhelming. That's not meant to imply any slur on their content nor to suggest I don't like you, or don't appreciate your analytic skills, because I do. But, well, there's the overwhelmingness.

I agree with vzak that the charts shouldn't be on Talk:Rupert Sheldrake. But, vzaak, I don't really see why you're bothered that they're on 74's own talkpage. (Nor even why the "advertisement" on ANI matters a lot.) They may be tendentious, I haven't studied them really closely, on account of the overwhelmingness, but "traditionally Wikipedia offers wide latitude to users to manage their user space as they see fit". I read that as including wide latitude to be tendentious or polemical on them, though of course excluding the kind of stuff mentioned in WP:UP#NOT. Why are you so concerned about it? Have you considered whether paying attention to material on a personal talkpage, which is always a rather out-of-the-way place if it isn't Jimbo's, might create a bit of a Streisand effect? I'd let it go if I were you. Bishonen | talk 14:51, 4 January 2014 (UTC).

Hi, given the high-powered warfare mentality promoted by off-site paranormal forums, it doesn't seem appropriate that users should be explicitly promoting that view here. 74.192.84.101's "battle factions" charts aren't even accurate -- I had not even heard of WP:SPOV, let alone endorsed it. Labeling a whole set of users in any way -- let alone labeling them as endorsing a failed policy proposal -- is not civil. 74.192.84.101 had promised to stop posting "further demographics data, concerning edit-counts and revert-counts and dates-of-entry and such".[5]

P.S. When I first posted on your page a while ago, I had no idea about your astronomical popularity here. Through this page I also found out about The Lady Catherine de Burgh, which has to be the greatest Wikipedian ever. vzaak 15:57, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes, vzaak, I have the honour of her ladyship's acquaintance and presence on this page; indeed, though I hesitate to speak so boastfully, of her friendship. Why don't you go introduce yourself and express your awe and respect veneration? If you scruple to approach her directly (I've noticed you're a mannerly young man), you might try her secretary User:Vera Corpus (Miss). She may not be the most competent, but a little pourboire can often work wonders. Bishonen | talk 23:10, 5 January 2014 (UTC).

I forgot about the Streisand reference, I suppose because it didn't make sense. I don't read 74.192.84.101's comments because I don't have the inclination or patience for them. The ones I have read invariably misrepresent me and paint me in a negative light. Looking at 74.192.84.101's above comment: no, I am not in any way ashamed of my edits; I am not attempting to suppress information in Streisand-like manner. I want 74.192.84.101 to stop the battleground bullshit. It's obviously not raw data which is battleground, but his own presumptuous categorizing of users into opposing factions. vzaak 17:12, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Yohio

Did not notice it until now but user Kiruning has been at it again changing most of the Yohio article. Again mentioning the Big in Japan claim etc. Should we just revert most of the edits or? Kiruning also voices his opinion about you on Yohios talk page from the same day he did the edits, apparently "You seem obviously unfit to be an administrator". I dont agree ;).--BabbaQ (talk) 16:07, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

I made the decision to revert the users edits back to the neutral version. I also gave the user a notice of this. Regards,--BabbaQ (talk) 16:10, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Well, Babba, you already knew I'm slow (only one of the many ways I'm unfit to be an administrator), but I've finally posted on Talk:Yohio, and for good measure scrambled the article itself like an egg. Please check it out. Bishonen | talk 22:55, 5 January 2014 (UTC).

Tis true. (Your unfitness.) There's also that whole "putting people in front of wiki-rules" and "maintaing a sense of perspective (and humor)." How did you pass an Rfa? NE Ent 02:22, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Bish was once a horrible horrible person, but 'Zilla straightened them out! :D — Huntster (t @ c) 02:26, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Let's get the facts straight, Bishzilla passed the RfA in 2007 as it was felt that killing with radioactive breath and a penchant for destroying entire cities would be help at Arbcom Enforcement. Since then, Sandstein has replaced 'Zilla in performing those duties, so 'Shonen took over 'Zilla's unused tools. --RexxS (talk) 15:45, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

:-D RexxS, you're a very wicked man. Huntster, what you say is true in a sense — Zilla taught me my place (=in her pocket) — but it's a mere canard (which she puts about already in her 2007 RFA, I see!) that I'm afraid of her. Not at all. My natural authority brings her effortlessly to heel. When I look sternly at her, she cowers. No, if I've become less of a horrible person of late years it's because some of my evil nature has been taken over by you-know-who. Bishonen | talk 18:09, 6 January 2014 (UTC).

[Feels the need to post, even though presumably everybody gets it. She wants to display another badass sig.] That's me, you know! darwinbish ^{Forgive and forget? How about fuck off and die?} ☠, 18:21, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I read the Bishzilla RfA and it seems like I missed out on all the fun. I had an account back then, but no time to spend here, and now that I have time to spend here most, if not all, of the good-spirited fun seems to have gone... Thomas.W ^{talk to me} 18:30, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Well, my RFA, while admittedly from 2010 (how time flies), is still reasonably active, Thomas. Go support!! darwinbish ^{Evil genius seeks minions for world domination attempt} ☠, 18:42, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Clay

Move Like This
by 28bytes

Duck moving with clay on it's feet, thank you! - Move Like This was translated to Dutch yesterday, any page stalker up to another language? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:05, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

(I made a poem, asked below.)

moon in pumpkin sky

the inheritance of loss

move like this sing blue

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:18, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Some advice on mountains

Hey, Bish, I'm not sure if this is something you'd know or not (I have trouble remembering who's what when it comes to things like this), but would you have any insight into this issue? I don't know the first thing about it, so if you do, a quick look to say that it's reasonable would be nice. Thanks! Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 19:19, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

I just needed to make sure they weren't both the same… my Norwegian geography isn't up to much. All those mountains! But one Fløyfjellet near Bergen and one on an island in Lofoten does sound quite reliably not the same, or even close. It's perfect with the titles and the redirects, as far as I can tell. Bishonen | talk 19:58, 8 January 2014 (UTC).

Well, given that my knowledge of Norwegian geography is limited to "it's a country in Europe that's further north than some", that's still better than I can do. I took it on faith and went ahead with the request, as you saw. Thanks (again). Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 20:31, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Stole my thunder

Hey, and I'd just proposed my very first motion, too. Now moot. You mooted my motion! You... mooter. --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:27, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Ahh, the joys of being a rouge admin. Do you remember them? Actually, I looked at the RFAR page and clicked on a few links and I couldn't stand it. I kept imagining all the vulnerable newbie arbs resigning in horror. Bishonen | talk 19:31, 8 January 2014 (UTC).

This wouldn't make even the top five reasons for that.... Newyorkbrad (talk) 20:04, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Really? I don't even like to think what the top five reasons might be, then — unspeakable things taking place on the sekrit mailing list, presumably. I'm sure at least Bishzilla, a sensitive soul, would have run a mile from such a terrifying first experience of arbitration. (Remember she was a candidate for arbcom some years ago?) Bishonen | talk 21:52, 8 January 2014 (UTC).

The only one of the reasons I should discuss here is that the list is overly full of bad puns. I would complain more loudly, but most of them are mine. Newyorkbrad (talk) 22:16, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

And I lost the election. There is no justice in this world. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 22:28, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

None. Isn't there some fairly well-known essay about how there's specifically no justice on Wikipedia and you shouldn't expect it because it would interfere with building an encyclopedia? [/me tries the obvious shortcut. No good, it just leads to "Righting Great Wrongs", that's not it.] Something like that? I'm sorry you didn't get in, George. Don't blame me, all my socks supported you. Perhaps Brad has some file with all his puns that he can share with you? So that you can still enjoy that part of arbitration. Bishonen | talk 22:52, 8 January 2014 (UTC).

Isn't WP:NOJUSTICE the obvious shortcut? NE Ent 22:56, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

No, hardly. Only the essays creator will ever think of that one! Good essay, Ent. Bishonen | talk 23:01, 8 January 2014 (UTC).

(ec) sorry, I couldn't vote for you, George, after you answered my question with "The edit is Andy Mabbett putting an infobox in a musician's biographical article." - That may have been what most arbs on the infoboxes case saw (if they looked), but it's just not so, and 16 other candidates saw it without help, - I voted for nine of those, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:08, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

This thread is not for serious things. Newyorkbrad (talk) 23:09, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

How would I know, when "no justice" comes up and I immediately think of the image above ;) --Gerda Arendt aka User:Gerda the Notorious Infoboxen wikiCriminal[6] (talk) 23:13, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

I demand that this attack upon me be rephrased either as a pun or in iambic pentameter. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 23:25, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

I strongly recommend rephrasing as a pun; I have a little experience trying to write poetry here and it's harder than it looks. Brad is pretty good at both puns and poetry, but as I recall he does haiku or limericks or something; not hard stuff like iambic pentameter. --Floquenbeam (talk) 23:32, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

I am still too sad, tired, not good enough in English ... to do a pun or Haiku or even attack. I supported Darwinbish for admin, will that do? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:41, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Ah, sorry, I didn't think that you might be concerned about writing puns or poetry in English due to language issues. Your use of english in editing is fine. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 23:45, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

(e/c) Don't sell yourself short, Gerda; anyone can do a haiku:

Haiku's big secret

is that it actually is

as easy as you'd think.

Especially if

you just ignore kireji

and on and kigo.

--Floquenbeam (talk) 23:48, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

(outdent) I've perpetrated a haiku, a limerick, a double-dactyl, a parody, a sonnet, and a couple of overlong monstrosities otherwise unclassified. But it's been awhile, and I may be out of practice. These days, I might come up with nothing better than There once was a sock from Nantucket... Newyorkbrad (talk) 23:59, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

There once was a 'zilla from Bish-place

Who stomped on the tail of poor Tiktaalik

Darwinbish laughed, and Darwinfish wince.

Bishonen frown, and crowd be ashame.

Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 00:11, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Heh, very nice, George. I hope the Master of Shakespearean sonnets sees this thread. But what's everybody doing still up? You really keep some unchristian hours over there. Goodnight. Bishonen | talk 00:26, 9 January 2014 (UTC).

Still up? I'm in California, it's only about 5 pm now. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 00:59, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Floq:I just want to point out that haiku is not as easy as you'd think, because "as /ea/sy/ as/ you'd/ think" is six syllables. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 00:36, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Philistine. --Floquenbeam (talk) 00:42, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Arbitrator. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 00:43, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Please read WP:NPA and WP:CIVIL. --Floquenbeam (talk) 00:46, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Fine, arbi-traitor. *ba-dum-tsh* Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 00:49, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Now I know why you're not named "Wit Keeper". --Floquenbeam (talk) 00:52, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

They say your haiku doesn't scan,

And hence deserves the garbage can?

The best response to that, I deem,

Is "I don't give a Floquen' Beam."

Newyorkbrad (talk) 00:53, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

(I really wish I'd thought of this earlier) Thanks for the defense, Brad. Criticizing the syllables in my haiku is just not on. --Floquenbeam (talk) 00:55, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Bishonen's talk page.
Mirth and levity abound.
'Cept when she's burnt out. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 12:26, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

• For having too much fun, you are all indefinitely site banned. For the Authoritarian Committee, AGK [•] 12:46, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Thank you, AGK. I suppose that'll have to console me for the lack of real drama following on what I flattered myself was a controversial block. Disappointing! But I welcome this opportunity to thank everybody for the very beautiful celebratory verses and spirited raillery above. (P.S. I though the standard term was "the Arbitrary Committee"?) Bishonen | talk 18:53, 9 January 2014 (UTC).

• sounds familiar --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:56, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

(I made a pun haiku poem, again late at my night but it's too serious for this thread, I moved it up to its title, Clay.) ::--Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:54, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

edit conflict

Re: this edit... don't 'welcome' templates usually go at the top of the page? - ^theWOLFchild 09:32, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Maybe. They're most often used on an empty page, and so end up on top. Insofar as it's a principle, it's in tension with the principle that you shouldn't top-post and thereby sideline the message that was there. Obviously the IP was an established user logging out in order to disrupt (there was a reason I didn't welcome them), but if you want to welcome them as emphatically as possible, feel free to move your welcome template back to the top. I admit I don't understand why you'd post the templated "Signature" message above my post. Bishonen | talk 12:19, 9 January 2014 (UTC).

No big deal. Cheers - ^theWOLFchild 11:34, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Welcome back

Once addicted there's no escape from WP... Thomas.W ^{talk to me} 14:48, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Mmm. Maybe. Thanks, Tom. Bishonen | talk 18:55, 9 January 2014 (UTC).

Re: Socks

Hi Bishonen,
To be honest with you, I have not followed nor did I further investigate accounts misuse by Andajara. I suspect they will be back, but their pattern of behavior and POV-pushing should be fairly obvious to anyone. Cheers, Λuα ^{(Operibus anteire)} 14:42, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Nice

I really liked this edit. It was a model of what I love about this project. Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 23:52, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, Philippe. Very kind of you to say so. Bishonen | talk 19:05, 11 January 2014 (UTC).

Can I draw your attention...

...to this? BMK, Grouchy Realist (talk) 12:22, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Aha, right, thanks. Those do look like likely precursors to Tollsnanak900 and Andajara120000. And the "forgot my password" theme again… It worries me, quite frankly, that Andaraja hasn't appealed the block. I won't be watching the articles — they're so foreign to my interests and competence, and also I want to remain uninvolved — but if anybody should see a suspicious "new" user editing them, I'll be happy to investigate. Bishonen | talk 19:05, 11 January 2014 (UTC).

User:Jayadevp13 who you self-blocked may be evading

You blocked User:Jayadevp13 at his request on 4.January 2013. Another account User:Wikiuser13 has started making edits identical on Aadhaar identical to Jayadevp13's in collaboration with previously blocked user User:Ravishyam Bangalore who has recently come out of an indefinite block. The article itself is a "highly POV topic" per Toddst1 and Ravishyam_Bangalore is a self admitted SPA and crank for this topic.

Jayadevp13 and Wikiuser13 seem to have similar editing patterns [7]

Jayadevp13 tag-teamed for Ravishyam_Bangalore here after the latter was indeffed [8] and [9]. Now Wikiuser13 is doing the exact same thing here here as an extension of Ravishyam_Bangalore [10] and [11].

The 2 editors have extensively coordinated, almost definitely off-wiki too, see this discussion [12] and this IP's email notification (same ISP and Indian state as Jayadevp's) and also this [13].

As far as the IP addresses are concerned, Jayadevp13 edited from 117.199.176.190 which resolves to either Uttar Pradesh [14] or Bangalore [15] from where Ravishyam_Bangalore also edits [16] see [17]. Unfitlouie (talk) 18:50, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Oh, gee, evading a self-requested block? I hope not; I hope he's focusing on school, per his request to be blocked. This conversation is admittedly somewhat suggestive of off-wiki coordination. On the other hand, Wikiuser13 started editing back in April 2013, long before I blocked Jayadevp13. Do you really think he's been socking since April? I find that hard to believe. It's possible, of course, and there may still be disruptive editing involved on the part of Wikuser. Anyway, if you'd like to pursue this, could you please approach another admin, or file an SPI report? I appreciate your efforts and your report, but I'd rather not deal with this.

P.S. Jayadevp13 states on his userpage that he's in Uttar Pradesh, so that's no secret. Bishonen | talk 20:21, 11 January 2014 (UTC).

I'm giving it one final try on the article talk page to get a fix on the sockmaster before taking it to a notice board. Now another IP from Uttar Pradesh has started editing the article once I put Wikiuser13 on the mat. But thanks for your insight. Won't bother you with this. Unfitlouie (talk) 09:20, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Indian dancing socks

And this+ Eh?Hafspajen (talk) 23:45, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

LOL. Fourth level vandalism warnings? I'd probably better block Drmies, Yngvadottir and Justlettersandnumbers. Meanwhile, I've whacked the sock. Thank you, Hafspajen. Bishonen | talk 00:05, 12 January 2014 (UTC).

I am trying to say it to you guys! Hafspajen (talk) 00:18, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

• Dissapointed. Nobody cared what I was trying to say to Drmies guys! (Down there)Never mind, done. Hafspajen (talk) 00:02, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

• Looks like you got your speed - momentum back... Hafspajen (talk) 22:00, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm all rested. Thanks for the dancing, hmmm… socks, are they? Bishonen | talk 22:36, 12 January 2014 (UTC).

Neeh, regular shoes. Hafspajen (talk) 22:41, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Hello

		Health warning
		Too much. NE Ent 19:13, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Haha. You should hear my mother (try to) tell the story. The hot weather is important. Have you got a pic of melted butter? Bishonen | talk 19:33, 12 January 2014 (UTC).

Thank you, that's most obliging. Now have you got a pic of a collapsing pram? Bishonen | talk 22:36, 12 January 2014 (UTC).

Will this picture of an apparently Danish barnevogn do? Thomas.W ^{talk to me} 14:24, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Aha, well I wasn't thinking of a collapsible pram, especially not such a handsome vehicle, Thomas, but of a pram actually in the course of collapsing. On account of being old and decrepit. Then it would suit the girlscouts-with-pram-full-of-butter story (destined never to be told). Even better if it was full of melting butter. Google Images's got nothing. Strange. Bishonen | talk 16:02, 13 January 2014 (UTC).

• Ent, I think most Scandinavians should be able to tell you that I was not joking. Of course, if all you need is a Pripps Bla every know and then you have no need for an alcohol bath on a ferry, and if you like margarine...well, if you like margarine I don't want to talk to you. Drmies (talk) 22:23, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Jasmine Waltz

I seriously doubt that the article's author intends it as an attack page. Most likely, they're a fan who doesn't see anything wrong with, for lack of a better phrase, celebrity gossip. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 20:55, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

I can think of better phrases quite easily. But I have no notion that he meant or means any harm to the subject. (I've read his userpage with interest, and so I say "he".) I'm not concerned with his intentions, but only with their result; with the page, not with what was in the creator's mind. Incidentally, of course you've noticed that this is the page I referred to as an attack page, not this. Bishonen | talk 22:28, 12 January 2014 (UTC).

See, this is why wikipedia sucks. Someone is more concerned that you might have assumed the bad faith of some random user whose real name no one has to know - than that that user wrote a disparaging article about a real person, that could harm a real reputation. Stuff the real world, you didn't play the game rules you evil bitch.--Scott Mac 22:38, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Doc. (He does give his real name on his page, though, and he's only 18.) Bishonen | talk 22:46, 12 January 2014 (UTC).

Rev del

OK... hum... I figgered I had to revdel BMK's blanking of the offensive material too, or the blanking diff would still display it. But maybe not, because my action also made his next edit invisible. Not intended. How do you undo this stuff...? NE Ent, don't you know better than to ask somebody stupid, what's the matter with you? Bishonen | talk 12:43, 13 January 2014 (UTC).

Sigh. After messing around a little, it's visible again. I have no idea what I'm doing, but it looks all right. Bishonen | talk 12:47, 13 January 2014 (UTC).

What's the matter with you, editing Jimbo's talk page?? You were the first admin I saw currently online... someone had just referenced the page on ANI so I was in a very un Ent like hasty frame of mind. NE Ent 12:53, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Very well, you're forgiven. Unexpectedly, it turns out I'm a brilliant revdeleter. I'd never "edit" Jimbo's talkpage, please don't talk like that. It's just that my finger itched when I saw Scott M had accidentally crashed the section header. Bishonen | talk 13:03, 13 January 2014 (UTC).

Block requested

All right, I had an opportunity to respond on AE. Right now, I have absolutely no intention to continue editing here. Let's start from a two-month block. So, could you please block my account for two months right now. Please annotate this block as a block made by my own request. I read your conditions. Thanks a lot. My very best wishes (talk) 13:25, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

All right, I'll block you, but not "right now". I always insist on a certain quarantine time, and considering the events of yesterday, I can't in conscience make it less that 24 hours. So, in 24 hours from your post above I'll place the block, and please let me know if you change your mind before then. Afterwards, it'll be too late, per the conditions you've read. Bishonen | talk 13:55, 13 January 2014 (UTC).

OK, noted. Yes, I am frustrated.

1. First, such AE decision goes against our rules: a couple of admins can not unilaterally decide (and use this as a reason for sanctions!) that a Russian book was "fringe", even though this is merely a book (a secondary source) that describes an approach to teaching SRT, which is not new. The book was published by a major publishing organization in the Soviet Union after review by Vitaly Ginzburg and other physicists from Lebedev Physical Institute... It would be fine to discuss a source on WP:RS (as I suggested to Urgent01) and decide if this is a reliable source. But use my editing as a reason for immediate sanctions?!
2. Second, I am also offended by the fact that such sanction would label me as a COI editor, although whole my editing record (on a huge number of different subjects!) shows me as a dedicated volunteer, and it was me who recently argued on AN against paid editing. I think this is also unjust, because that was my first lapse of judgement which could be interpreted as a COI problem.
3. Finally, this is all on the top of my personal/privacy issues I am not going to debate.

If such sanction is enacted, and if I will be back after this block, I will file a clarification request about the "Pseudoscience" case to Arbcom. Sure thing, they did not mean people be sanctioned based on the obviously incorrect interpretation of a single source as "fringe". But this is big if. I hope two months will be sufficient to leave this place forever. Please do not take this an offense. I still believe that WP is an important information resource, but I just do not want to contribute any longer, given the circumstances. So, yes, please block me for two months in 24 hours. Thank you, My very best wishes (talk) 17:22, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

• I will. I'm sorry you've come to such a conclusion. It's much too common that people leave the project in bitterness. :-( Good luck in all your endeavors. Bishonen | talk 18:23, 13 January 2014 (UTC).

• I don't really know MVBW, but as another admin who does self-requested blocks, I saw this and wanted to chime in. WP is pretty good at grinding people down so that all that's left is the bitter residue. Speaking partially from experience, I think you'll find a 2 month complete break a good duration. One of 2 things is likely to happen. Either you'll come back with a better perspective, and enjoy editing again, or it won't appeal to you anymore, and it's enough time to break the "addiction", and you'll find it relatively easy to stay away when the block expires. In either case, a better solution than continuing to do something you hate but can't quite break away from. One bit of advice, FWIW: if possible, avoid the temptation to check in from time to time to see how things are going, whether you're blocked or not. Good luck with everything. --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:51, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! One more request. If a notice of AE sanctions (and especially those which are currently debated) will be posted on my talk page, could you please remove this notice to keep my talk page clean? I will see it anyway. Ideally, I would like my userpage and talk page be protected during this block. My very best wishes (talk) 19:46, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Well, I can fullprotect your userpage and semi your talk, if you like. The talkpage needs to be accessible for people to put important (or whatever) messages on. But I'll keep an eye on it, and remove stuff I think you won't want displayed in public. It might be a good idea for you to put a note right here, or else commented-out (=visible only in edit mode) on your own talk, stating that Bishonen has your permission to manage your talkpage during your block. Bishonen | talk 20:09, 13 January 2014 (UTC).

Then please protect userpage, and do not protect talk page. Sure, you have my permission to manage my talk page and sorry for the trouble. My very best wishes (talk) 20:25, 13 January 2014 (UTC)