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Anyone may play in my sandboxes, in the archive list to the right, IF you promise to behave. This means:

• No kicking sand
• No hitting other people over the head with toys
• No pooping, even if you are a cat and neatly cover it up!
• It's my sandbox, so I can throw you out if you misbehave!  :-)

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Awww, gee! That was really super nice! Thank you! Montanabw^(talk) 04:47, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

'tis the season

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Black Allan (horse) has been nominated for Did You Know

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Hello,

I have reviewed the above nomination. Although it is approved, there remains some discussion on the nomination. Although you are not a nominator, you are a co-editor, and may be interested in the process.

Georgejdorner (talk) 18:59, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Wilhelm Tell II

Not very important, but while the DYK of Flim Flam is being reviewed, I'm going to work on another horse, Wilhelm Tell II. Found a lot of sources about him. :) Not too important, I don't think I'm going to do a DYK on him, but it's worth the time writing. Do you know anything about him? Just wondering. Horsegeek ^{Whisper in a horse's ear} 01:17, 19 March 2016 (UTC)Horsegeek

Cool! I don't follow Warmblood bloodlines that closely, but he sounds interesting! Montanabw^(talk) 03:09, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

thank you

What I wanted to write on Emily's AfD, but I won't because the cabal is just too vicious: Sexism is completely tolerated on WP. Through actual scholarship one can be partial to inclusiveness and impartial to bias, but that isn't really what WP is about. It is delusional to pretend that WP is remotely academic. The very notion that secondary sources, rather than primary sources (which are not the same as self-generated materials), that length of discussion represents depth, that regional materials are somehow less than international sources, or that English language sources are more substantive, underscores this bias. Anyone who watches these AfDs with regularity sees the naysayers dominating the "conversations?" and voting! for or against articles typically falls with those who yell loudest. The exact same logic is used to eliminate articles on women and keep articles on plastic shamans. The question is do we, as a community want to allow the historical biases that only the victors and powerful write history to remain, or do we actually want history to be representive of the diversity in our world? There are indeed reliable sources to verify minority contributions, but the loudest voices rule here. GNG and Notability both allow inclusion, and yet ... One could be the best basketweaver that society allowed one to be and it would not be enough for the cadre of editors who think that only those who were part of the power matrix deserve articles. SusunW (talk) 08:20, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Eloquently put. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:39, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Rosie. I get so frustrated with the nonsense, but see little desire from the bulk of the vocal minority to actually see what is in front of them. I appreciate those who are willing to call them out or at least try to make them pull their heads out of the sand. But methinks they are of the variety who believes that they are impartial and it is others who are biased. SusunW (talk) 16:40, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

The internet is a big place and WP is, sad to say, a microcosm of the reality that's out there. But, it is well-known that "what you get in Wikimedia is the world according to the young white western male with a slight personality defect.". So all I can offer is this (smiles) Montanabw^(talk) 17:43, 21 March 2016 (UTC):

"I want to say to everyone else, get stuffed, because women can do anything and we can beat the world."

—Michelle Payne (after her win in the Melbourne Cup),

References

Heh heh

User:White Arabian Filly/The Black Stallion. Doesn't that horse just look like the Black? White Arabian Filly ^Neigh 21:18, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Read about him before. Yes!! Horsegeek ^{Whisper in a horse's ear} 23:30, 21 March 2016 (UTC)Horsegeek

• oh, oh... generational split! It's The Black Stallion! A classic of equine literature! (One only notices later that Walter Farley tended to recycle horse racing sequences from novel to novel...) Montanabw^(talk) 03:02, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
  • The other day I found a hardbound copy of The Black Stallion and Flame, circa 1970s, at the used bookstore. I bought it. White Arabian Filly ^Neigh 20:11, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
  • Sun Raider was robbed! Tigerboy1966  07:53, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Redirect

Maybe we should create a redirect from WP:Userboxes to User:Montanabw? Atsme^📞📧 15:41, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

I do have a few, don't I??? Montanabw^(talk) 16:23, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Veterinary medicine

Hi! I'm here about this reversion of my edit, which removed a space I had added after a comma. The phrase "apples and oranges" seemed kind of unrelated to the removal of such spaces, so I'm wondering if perhaps this was your intention. If it was something else that I did, or if my reversion was wrong in any way, please tell me. Thanks! Me, Myself & I (☮) (talk) 06:04, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

User:Me, Myself, and I are Here you are correct -- I was trying to get rid of the acupuncture bit, thanks for squaring that up for me! Montanabw^(talk) 02:49, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

Just curious, Montanabw - I've not previously seen on other WP articles the style of referencing that's currently being used at that article - basically a general reference list with inline citations pointing to a notes section. What style is that and is it acceptable for an article that's subject to WP:MEDRS which requires inline citations to high quality sources and notes used for further definition? Atsme^📞📧 16:33, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure Veterinary medicine is NOT subject to those guidelines. If things have changed somewhere, please could you point me in the right direction. And I agree - it's a rather unusual referencing system. DrChrissy ^(talk) 17:55, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

You are probably correct, DrChrissy. I assumed it was the case because of what took place regarding the "a-word". Atsme^📞📧 19:05, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

The "a-word"??? Atsme??? Hee hee. DrChrissy ^(talk) 19:37, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Veterinary medicine articles are subject to WP:SCIRS, which is almost as stringent. But in the case of that article, the "references" are really a "further reading" section, and I renamed it accordingly. (I think it's kind of overdone, but I also don't really see it does any harm) Montanabw^(talk) 02:49, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

SCIRS is an unofficial guidance essay while MEDRS is a content guideline. Wonder why they haven't tried to at least make it a guideline? Atsme^📞📧 03:05, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

True, but basically Wikipedia:Biomedical information supplements MEDRS. It is one of those things that if it ever got pushed would probably put vetmed under mEDRS. Montanabw^(talk) 04:37, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

I wonder if.... (pinging)

I wonder if pinging you works if I use incorrect capitalization when mentioning you? MPS1992 (talk) 04:55, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

Nope, it didn't. I have a doppleganger account with that capitalization, but it would only ping there. Montanabw^(talk) 04:57, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments

Thanks for the repeated wake-ups. Would you like to discuss? --Ronz (talk) 16:02, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

Responding at your page. Montanabw^(talk) 16:56, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Sound like a good idea. --Ronz (talk) 15:37, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Ann T. Bowling

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 02:13, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

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Happy Easter!

	Happy Easter
	To celebrate Easter and the beginning of spring, here's a cute Easter bunny for you! (By the way, check out Strolling Jim's pedigree on Allbreed when you get a chance; look close at that Thoroughbred on his dam's side. Sound familiar? White Arabian Filly Neigh

Thanks White Arabian Filly. Hmmm. Having a connection to Doncaster Round Barn amuses me the most, (via the sire of Bend Or, and very impressive breeding... but I am clearly missing something... help... hint...? Montanabw^(talk) 21:35, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

I was just referring to Bend Or. I thought it was funny that he went to a famous Thoroughbred. (Why don't they mention that in any of the books? It's probably in that $100 TWH-only book I can't afford to buy--unless it's on a really good sale.) White Arabian Filly ^Neigh 21:39, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

Interlibrary Loan can be a beautiful thing... Montanabw^(talk) 22:23, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

My local library doesn't even really have books anymore; they just have DVDs and CDs! My best finds are at the used bookstore. I've found books by J. Frank Dobie, Clarence Mulford (the original Hopalong Cassidy), and Olympic riders like Mary Gordon-Watson. I have hopes it'll turn up there sooner or later. White Arabian Filly ^Neigh 01:10, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

No matter how much the local content sucks, Interlibrary Loan is something that exists nationwide and allows participating libraries to get books from anywhere else in the country (Ealdgyth survives on it, I think). But I do love used bookstores too! Montanabw^(talk) 03:40, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Mail

You've got mail. — TransporterMan (TALK) 05:24, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Warm wishes for a...

	Happy Easter
	Wishing you a Blessed Easter Sunday and a beautiful sunny day filled with fragrant spring flowers!! Atsme📞📧 14:20, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Have a Happy Easter

	Happy Easter
	Happy Easter! And wishes for a great day! Horsegeek(talk) 17:17, 27 March 2016 (UTC)Horsegeek

Moar: Wikipedia:Main Page history/2016 March 27, with thanks for your grown-up ARCA statement, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:35, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Black Allan (horse)

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 12:58, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

AfD of interest

WP:Articles for deletion/El Shahbaa. You may have a book or something to use for sources. My efforts at finding sources were "laughable". 😡 White Arabian Filly ^Neigh 20:48, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

She's an Al Khamsa foundation mare - she's listed in AK Arabians II on page 58. Might check with their site. I already packed my Forbis books up (don't get me started on Forbis) so I'm not much help there. The mare is going to be of marginal notability I'd guess. The AKII listing doesn't give any details on her beyond her breeding and when she was purchased (unlike entries for other horses which give more details). Ealdgyth - Talk 21:55, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

MBW - I'm out of sources for her. She wasn't behind my stallion so I don't really have any magazine articles for her and my Forbis is packed (and all I have is Classic Arabian Horse, not Bloodstock). I gots nothing to add so nothing to add to the AfD. Ealdgyth - Talk 17:05, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Ah, the dear Judith Forbis (anyone who wears a turban for 50 years and lives in Arkansas ... Okay), but maybe if you could pop by the Afd and make a fast comment, that would help. Google books has Forbis/Classic and we have already added an excerpt there. WAF found some source material. It's the usual nasty deletionist argument going on there. Montanabw^(talk) 17:07, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Talk page stalkers

Would an experienced user or Admin, assess the consensus HERE and move the page if deemed so?VictoriaGrayson^Talk 19:11, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Flim Flam (horse)

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:13, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for all your help 💗 Horsegeek^(talk) 22:25, 30 March 2016 (UTC)Horsegeek

Re: that ANI close

Good call, and good point in your closing statement. I'd actually not even realized that we'd suddenly lost 3 editors in that dispute. I started a discussion at WT:SOCK#Clarification of WP:FAMILY? regarding the use of WP:FAMILY that seemed to really trigger things, arguing that some change or clarification might prevent that sort of statement in the future. You might be interested in joining. —/Mendaliv/^2¢/_Δ's/ 02:59, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, it was heating up more than settling down. Yeah, check the talk pages of the users involved. Three just quit. They might be back, but it could be awhile. Montanabw^(talk) 03:02, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

"The Cloisters" at ANI

Thanks for your close of this, but one thing you wrote confused me a bit, that three editors had indicated a desire to retire from WP because of it. I didn't get that from the discussion, and I certainly hope you're not referring to me as one of them. I did (and do) want to stay away from the discussion, but it'll take a lot more than Alansohn's and DrChrissy's fervid dislike of me to leave Wikipedia. Did I miss something in the discussion?

Hope you're well, Best, BMK (talk) 04:53, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Oh, I just saw the thread above this one, so let me take a look at the talk pages of the participants. BMK (talk) 04:55, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

So, you're talking about Kafka Liz, Victoriaearle and... Ceoil?? I don't know the editing of the first two and have nothing against them (and certainly didn't know that KL & C were partners)and Ceoil I only know a little bit. (Or am I wrong, and Ceoil is not the third person you're referring to?) In any case, if these are editors whose contributions you value, take solace in the fact that most retirements -- at least in my experience -- are not permanent. Wikipedia is a wickedly hard addiction to kick, especially if you use it as a source (which most of the English-speaking world does) and so is exposed to it every time you look up a fact. Then you see something wrong that needs to be fixed, and whammo, you're editing again. I've tried, and never lasted very long. BMK (talk) 05:06, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Yep, you've got the gist of it right. I don't think it was because of anything you personally said or did, but the comment I reference in the thread above (and Montanabw referenced in her closing summary at ANI) seems to have done it. Sucks to see it happen. —/Mendaliv/^2¢/_Δ's/ 05:37, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Victoriaearle blanked her page, Ceoil blanked his page and KafkaLiz put up a "retired" banner. Yes, I think that it was one of the other people's comments at the ANI that prompted this. I hope you are right and that they will return. Montanabw^(talk) 06:09, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Wales/Awaken the Dragon

Hi, I was wondering if you could help produce a few articles towards this in April? The idea is that people can use the Amazon vouchers to buy books for their future projects. I'm sure the getting articles to GA is compatible with the WikiCup too!♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:55, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Would Welsh pony to GA help? Montanabw^(talk) 17:31, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Montanabw, good luck on that Wikicup! Horsegeek^(talk) 22:53, 31 March 2016 (UTC)Horsegeek

Congrats...

Was finally getting ready to chime in at the FAC and I'm of course too late to support. Congrats though.--MONGO 22:39, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Next time, perhaps! Montanabw^(talk) 22:47, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Category issues

Ok - so take a peek at this File:Quarter Horse trotting.jpg which was just categorized as Category: Quarter Horse racing. Can we possibly resolve that issue somehow? ^{Atsme📞📧} 16:25, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Just change the category, people are not good at doing this. (If it's housed at Commons, go there. If it' copyrighted, tag it for deletion. Montanabw^(talk) 18:01, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Just wrong category. So what category do we have to choose from? Maybe we need to create some Commons categories, which I don't know how to do, but I bet I find somebody who can. The image is my work, I released it, so it's good to go. It just needs the right category. Thx!! ^{Atsme📞📧} 20:02, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)I'm pretty sure there's a category for just regular, non-racing Quarter Horses. Although I haven't uploaded anything, I have categorized some dog pictures that were in the unidentified category. By the way, that picture might be good for Western pleasure, the images there are crap.

Add I put in the correct cat, American Quarter Horse. It can probably also be put in the Western riding cat as well. White Arabian Filly ^Neigh 20:49, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

The only Commons categories that I can find directly referencing American Quarter Horse are:

• c:Category:American Quarter Horse
• c:Category:American quarter horse - which is a redirect
• c:Category:American Quarter Horse (history)
• c:Category:American Quarter Horse Hall of Fame and Museum
• c:Category:Conformational side views of American Quarter Horses

Of course it's possible to create a more precise category for File:Quarter Horse trotting.jpg, but as there are only 81 files presently in c:Category:American Quarter Horse, there's no pressure to diffuse its contents into sub-categories. Sadly there doesn't seem to be a category c:Category:Western riding, but it may be worth creating if there are several files that would fit in it and if you can find a suitable parent category (probably c:Category:Horse riding in the United States). Cheers --RexxS (talk) 22:14, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Oh, they are all there c:Category:Western-style riding, etc... look for existing photos in articles and then follow the category tree. The Commons gang created a lot of categories without having English as a first languageMontanabw^(talk) 01:30, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Fixed the categories, IMHO, though, the photo having all the background removed looks really weird. Montanabw^(talk) 01:33, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Well, Atsme has the original - that's her Photoshopped version, and we have to remember that the images will get used beyond Wikipedia, so a black background may sometimes be appropriate. It would not be difficult to make a png version that had a transparent background which would work nicely on its own, but could also be used to create collages, or to place the image against a different background, etc. You too could be seen trotting across the Mongolian Steppes! --RexxS (talk) 02:25, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

I think it is a good idea to have the image with its background as an option; for the aficionado, it is useful to remove distracting elements, but for someone who has never been to a horse show, the disembodied image looks really odd!  :-) Montanabw^(talk) 02:44, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Noted. Will upload the background, as well as more horse picts that can be used for color ID, performance, halter, etc. Also plan to upload some performance video and on another completely different note, some really cool underwater video. Let me know if there's anything in particular you need because I have at least 20,000 images to choose from, or that I can acquire under a CC-BY-SA 4.0 license. ^{Atsme📞📧} 15:13, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Can you find one for Racking Horse?! 🐎 White Arabian Filly ^Neigh 15:37, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

I'll look - but I know I have video of it. I'll see if a frame capture will be suitable quality. ^{Atsme📞📧} 16:44, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Even crappy screen captures beat no images. Video needs to be very short on WP because generally no one will watch a whole long video (I like 10-second clips, personally). I'd say take a tour through the WP horse articles and ask if you can improve on what's there. What we need the most are free images of well-known racehorses, especially the still-living ones where we aren't allowed to use fair use images. We also need images of the rarer horse breeds. I wouldn't mind better images for the American Quarter Horse article, that's one that could benefit from better-quality images and then an upgrade to GA status. Horse showmanship and Halter (horse show) might also benefit from some good show photos. I'd almost give my eyeteeth for good photos for Trail (horse show), Western riding (horse show) and better images at reining. Montanabw^(talk) 18:58, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

What's the market price for eyeteeth these days? ^{Atsme📞📧} 20:13, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

LOL! Probably about the same as what we get paid for our contributions to WP! Montanabw^(talk) 22:50, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

AfD

Back atcha!

Hi Montanabw: A recent edit you performed at AfD has been reverted. You may want to check it out. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 04:43, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

And the Tomfoolery begins... Montanabw^(talk) 05:43, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Enjoy! North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 05:49, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

• Hey, I know you like horses, but what about unicorns? North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 15:38, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
  • @Northamerica1000: NOT MORE (expletive deleted) UNICORNS! NOOOOO! (lol) =:-O See: User talk:Montanabw/Magic unicorns. 21:12, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Hey buddy!

• If I can briefly distract you from unicorns, take a look at Wikipedia:Mouse! ϢereSpielChequers 17:36, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
  • What a great April Fool's day, all! Thanks! Montanabw^(talk) 21:12, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Impact

Impact

Thank you for your impact
in serving for ten years Arabian horses (and others) and people from Montana (and others) with humor and outspoken fairness! You make this ... a better place.

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About Women

Hi Montanabw. I'm an editor of the Italian Wikipedia. I'm trying to participate to an IEG with the project "Women are everywhere". You will find the draft at this link https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Women_are_everywhere It would be great if you could have a look at it. I need any kind of suggestion or advice to improve it. Support or endorsement would be fantastic. Many thanks,--Kenzia (talk) 17:17, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Houston, we have a problem...

Template:Did you know nominations/Spark (horse) is trying to say that this horse (who may have been imported in the 1740s) was the first American thoroughbred race horse. That's Bull Rock, however, who came over in 1730. (see Thoroughbred#In America for sourcing). I've objected on the DYK page but... if others have better sources, this would be the time to bring them forward. Ealdgyth - Talk 22:13, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Further on Bulle Rock - International Museum of the Horse, Britannica, and Colonial Williamsburg. Ealdgyth - Talk 22:39, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Oh crap. I saw this at ANI--the nominator was trying to bully the article creator and was shoving their DYKs in their face. And yes, I have at least one book to back up Bull Rock being the first Thoroughbred racehorse in the US. Their hook is inaccurate. White Arabian Filly ^Neigh 14:59, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

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Clinton Anderson

Getting ready to archive my talk page, so I have restored the page to Draft:Clinton Anderson (horse trainer) and removed the copy vio. Pinging @White Arabian Filly:, who is also interested. — Diannaa (talk) 12:49, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Horse related Commons images

Images uploaded:

File:Red roan Quarter Horse.jpg

File:Youth Western riding.jpg

File:Terry Bradshaw-ImpressiveSteeler-Betty Wills.jpg

File:Terry Bradshaw, Louisiana.jpg

More to come! ^{Atsme📞📧} 23:27, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! (And that's a neat one with you, Terry Bradshaw and his horse!) By the way, I think part of the issue with Commons is that most of the pictures aren't being categorized so we can find them. I just found 10 or 15 Saddlebred pictures that weren't in the Saddlebred cat. I categorized several of them, and will probably do more later. White Arabian Filly ^Neigh 21:55, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

Don't even get me started on the mess that commons categories are! But getting images into them is important, however messy they are ... Montanabw^(talk) 22:11, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

Delete

How do you delete a page? Cause there's a subpage I don't want anymore and I don't know how to get rid of it. Horsegeek^(talk) 00:21, 7 April 2016 (UTC)Horsegeek

Horsegeek, I am a page stalker on here. I think the first thing you need to do is say here, or on the article Talk page, which page you want to delete and why. There is an official process called AfD (articles for deletion), but you need to have discussed this elsewhere before going there. DrChrissy ^(talk) 00:32, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Just blank the page if it's in your userspace. That will trigger a delete when an admin notices it. If you really want it deleted asap, then place {{Db-g7}} on the page which will probably speed it up. Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion #G7. Author requests deletion applies to any page where the only substantial content to the page was added by its author. HTH --RexxS (talk) 14:49, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker). @RexxS, DrChrissy, and Horsegeek:. To delete your own pages, use: {{db-owner}} or {{db|reason}} on the page(s) in question. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 04:04, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

@Checkingfax: But please note that {{db-owner}} / {{db-u1}} does not apply to talk subpages: Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion #U1. User request. --RexxS (talk) 14:22, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi, RexxS (with cc to DrChrissy and Horsegeek). Weird. It worked fine for me when I used it a couple of times. Why would they make a template that only works for a part of our user pages? Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 19:05, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

• {{db-g7}} for pretty much anything where you're the only contributor is generally fine. I think some admins might balk at deleting archives of your user talk page, but generally so long as the history of contribs are maintained at your main user talk page it shouldn't be a problem. {{db-owner}}, as others have said, is for User:, but not (usually) User talk: pages. However, if you're like me, and you're drafting an article in your userspace, you use the user talk for that page as a scratch pad or storage for references. You can also do {{db-multiple|U1|G7}} if you're not quite sure and it's in your own userspace. —/Mendaliv/^2¢/_Δ's/ 19:11, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

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Nevzorov

Dear Montanabw, I'm a newcomer here. I'd like to ask you why did you undo my changes about Nevzorov (12:44, 23 March 2016‎). You deleted his publications that I had added.

Sincerely Maria Mariaved (talk) 13:24, 13 April 2016 (UTC) Mariaved

Request

There is an important discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Editor Retention about possibly finding a way to salvage Single-purpose editors and transforming them into positive WP collaborators in the general mainspace. I'm sure you run in to many of them as you wander around WP. I'm also sure that every now and then one of the SPA editors rises above the crowd and seems worthy of more of your time and effort. Your personal insight and experience would be appreciated. WP:WER has become a relative ghost town (and I may be one of the few ghosts left in town) and User:Robert's idea may be just the boost the Project needs to revitalize. It's an opportunity for the Project to actually do something beyond handing out awards. I think Dennis Brown would like it. Please comment. Buster Seven Talk 14:23, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Will do. Thanks for the ping. Montanabw^(talk) 20:47, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Gamaliel and others arbitration case opened

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Native American name controversy

Montanabw, I have reverted your good faith edits to this article, again. When referencing a "god" of a monotheistic religion pertaining to Judaism, Christianity and/or Islam, "God" is always capitalized regardless of norminal grammar rules. The "Christian God", "Abrahamic God," "God of Christianity," God of Abraham" etc. whichever way you word it would always assume capitalization. In my statement above I was only able to get away with it as I am indirecting relating the two, followed by an explanation, ending in capitalization; thus relaying my example; correlating my point. Please read Capitonym#Philosophical, religious, and political terms, where it uses the exact same phrasing you continue to revert; "It is common practice to capitalize the pronouns referring to the Abrahamic God."

I understand your position entirely, but the case here is grammically unique. Furthermore, good luck finding Christian "god" anywhere phrased this way, let it be online, books, stone etc. Savvyjack23 (talk) 07:57, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I'm afraid that your reliance on Capitonym#Philosophical, religious, and political terms is misplaced. That's an unsourced paragraph in a Wikipedia article and carries no authority whatsoever. You need to be looking at MOS:CAPS#Religion, which is part of our Manual of Style and enjoys community-wide consensus. As it happens, that section does suggest that the Judeo-Christian deity should be capitalised as "God", but not so unequivocally as you seem to think. In any case, this is a content issue and belongs on the talk page of Native American name controversy. --RexxS (talk) 16:53, 19 April 2016 (UTC)