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Digha Nikaya on Buddha's antropomorphic representation

Hello, I asked for a reference in the Graeco-buddhism article, but you just undid my change. I searched in the Digha Nikaya for such thing and never found it. Please say where in the Digha Nikaya the Buddha has warned against his representation after his death, or at least refer to who said so.

Yokosuka

Hi. Do you have the name of the photographer and/or the source of the Yokosuka Shipyards photo in this article? I'd like to compare with a similar panorama that I have access to. Thanks for any help. Pinkville 20:21, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi again, Just wondering if you could tell me where you found the above-linked image of Yokosuka? I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks. Pinkville 15:27, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for checking into it. Pinkville 17:29, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Kujula Kadphises and Anxi

Hi PHG! I totally agree with you that Anxi in Chinese usually refers to Arsacid "Parthia." However, we have no evidence of Kujula invading "Parthia Proper" but lots of evidence of him conquering much if not all of "Indo-Parthia," and it is descriptions of the conquest of these territories which we find detailed in the Hou Hanshu. These are the reasons why I have interpreted Anxi in this passage as "Indo-Parthia." I will, therefore, change it back to Indo-Parthia. However, if you are still not happy about this please leave a note on my Discussion page and we can talk about it further. John Hill 05:39, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi! It is a good compromise you have suggested on my Discussion page - thanks. I will add in brackets after Anxi: (commonly used for Parthia but thought to indicate Indo-Parthia here). Cheers John Hill 06:12, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Boshin War

Congratulations on the article getting featured! There are few loose ends I think need tying up, see the talk page, but great job!--Monocrat 02:38, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

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This might interest you

While thinking of people who might be interested in or have suggestions with regard to this idea, I recalled the excellent work you did on indo-Greek Kingdom. I'd encourage you to take a look at the idea, see if it interests you, and make any suggestions you might have. Thanks, --Robth^Talk 03:23, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

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Did you know?

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Concern about the Kanishka article

Dear PHG: I am writing to you as I have noticed that you have written a number of excellent, well-researched articles on early Indian history, Buddhism, the Kushans, etc., and have also made significant contributions to the article on Kanishka.

I would like to ask for advice about what to do regarding what I believe is happening on the Kanishka page. It seems a couple of Jat writers are promoting a very Jat-oriented view of Indian history and have been making (what I believe are unsupportable) claims that many famous Indian kings (including Chandragupta Maurya, Ashok Maurya, Samudragupta, Chandragupta II, Kanishka, Yasodharman, and Harshavardhana, among others) were all Jats.

I have had several run-ins with a couple of them on the Jat Discussion page but have found it pointless trying to argue with them as they continually make references to books written by Jat "historians" quoting their statements as "facts" that I am unable to verify, and challenging me to "prove" that such and such a king was NOT a Jat. Apparently, if I am unable to do this I am expected to just accept their Jat-oriented "historical traditions" as established "fact."

I have tried to point out (see my notes in the Jat Discussion page archives) the differences between traditions and facts but logic seems to have little effect on these people who, in my view, approach "history" from the standpoint of "true believers."

They have added a whole section called "The clan of Kanishka" to the article on Kanishka and I (at least) believe it makes a mockery of the careful reconstruction of the history of Kanishka and the Kushans which has been assembled over the last couple of centuries by a wide range of distinguished scholars.

Sections like this, with questionable traditions and beliefs presented as factual is one of the main things that brings criticism of the Wikipedia (and, indeed, modern historical scholarship in general) into disrepute and gives it a reputation as an untrustworthy source.

I believe this matter should probably be put to some form of arbitration with neutral editors. I have been trying to discover how to initiate such a process but have been unable to do so.

I would be most grateful indeed if you could please advise me what I should do next.

Many thanks, John Hill 10:38, 1 December 2006 (UTC) PS If you wish to write to me off-line you can email me at: wynhill@bigpond.com

Dear PHG:: I have just cleaned up the Kanishka page a bit and removed the section on Kanishka's clan which contained the claims about him being a Jat. So, please don't bother answering this - I will let things sit for a while and see what happens. If there is more controversy I will let you know. Cheers, John Hill 04:42, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the Greeting

PHG,

Thanks for the greeting. I hope you didn't find my sabbatical to be too disconcerting, as we've certainly had quite the repartee over the past year. In any event, seems like you've been fairly productive. As you know, I fully respect the efforts to maintain and augment valid material, but as I've affirmed numerous times, I do take issue with rather far-fetched and one-sided reconstructions. I was a little disappointed to see the consensus map, on which you and Vastu worked so hard to engender, disappear. It didn't even appear as if there was some discussion preceding it. As we both know, a greek invasion of the gangetic is far from gospel and has been subject to intense debate. In fact, one of the main authorities on the Indo greeks, A.K. Narain, has actually noted that Menander may simply have joined the kings of Panchala and Mathura on a raid down the Ganga. And the hathigumpha inscription itself remains an uncertain source as Kharavela's reign has been linked to centuries before and after the start of the common era and the word dimi has also been read as vima (as in vima kadphises, who I know you are familiar with). As for the Yuga Purana and MBH citations, those interpretations by Michener have been contested by other authorities such as Kak et al. I have not problem positing those theories, alongside others, but I do believe they need to be qualified. I am not alone in this opinion, and have respected our previous accords, as seen with the Ashoka debate.

As always, I respect your time and work on these pages and am willing to cooperate with you on compromise phrasing if you are so inclined.

Regards,

Devanampriya —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Devanampriya (talk • contribs) 01:05, 3 December 2006 (UTC).

PHG,

Working on them. I will let you know when they come in through the mail. It definitely is a very interesting aspect of this period. As per your question, Kharavela remains a rather enigmatic figure ever since they found the hathigumpha inscription 2 centuries ago. He hasn't been concretely fixed to an era. The earliest date we have for him, I believe, is 125 BCE. This of course precludes the possibility of a conflict with Demetrius of Bactria, leaving one of his namesakes as a possibility. Accordingly, there are 3-4 Satakarnis, making a Satavahana reference point difficult. As I understand it, dates for his reign range from the late 2nd century BCE to the mid 2nd century CE. Bearing in mind our extended discussions on the term "yavana", you can recognize the tenuous nature of the hathigumpha inscription's status as evidence of greek campaigns to the east. Kushan campaigns, and indeed conquests, are well-established and well-attested, hence the increased likelihood of such a case. Nevertheless, as we both know, there is a great deal of discussion surrounding this (ranging from carbon-dating to script dating). It will be interesting to see if any progress on this topic is made in the Ivory Tower.

Regards,

Devanampriya

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Your article, Tillia tepe, was selected for DYK!

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Sources on Mancio Ito

Hey, PHG, you will recall I've worked with you on Hasekura Tsunenaga, and Image:AsokaKandahar.jpg. Recently I was working on starting a more complete article on Hasekura for the Latin wikipedia (see Faxecura Rocuyemon), and the question of Mancio Ito came up. Essentiall I have been trying to find a good citation for what his name was in Latin: for Martinão Hara I found one souce that calls him Fara Martinus, so Mancio would presumably have been Ito Mancius or Itus Mancius, but until I find a source I can only speculate.

Interesting though this question is (at least to me), that is not why I am writing to you. Here's my real purpose: in my search for sources, I ended up downloading a half-dozen articles on the subject of the Tensho Mission. These articles contain a lot of information that would make valuable additions to Mancio Ito. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to devote to that article. So I was wondering if you would be interested in reading these articles yourself, and perhaps taking up the job of distilling them for wikipedia? If so, contact me by email. Thanks, Iustinus 18:06, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

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Bhagabhadra

I've added the "{{prod}}" template to the article Bhagabhadra, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at Talk:Bhagabhadra. You may remove the deletion notice, and the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached, or if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria. Oo7565 16:09, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

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Kushan Empire

Just thought you might like to know that Imperium Cossanum is currently the page of the month of la:. --Iustinus 14:10, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! I confess that I am very proud: I really enjoyed writing that article.

On another subject, I never heard back from you about Mancio Ito. I take it then that you are not interested? Too bad. --Iustinus 20:52, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

The problem is that a lot of the articles require a subscription. Besides, as I didn't write down all the URLs, it woudl be a lot easier to email you the stuff, if you are amenable. As I said above, if you are OK with that you can reach me through the mail-to link. Otherwise, well... I guess we'll ahve to do it the long way. --Iustinus 07:23, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Mauryan Empire

I am concerned about the edit [1] having Greek and Aramaic repeatedly removed. I have opened discussion in talk page with the user in question and I ask you to contribute. I would like to improve this article so that it achieves featured status so all pertinent information should be there. Rumpelstiltskin223 06:59, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Could you help me out with User:Devanampriya's continuous revert-warring in Mauryan Empire? I worked very hard to build the Template:Maurya Empire infobox and he still reverts it out of there because it contains Greek and Aramaic as languages of Mauryan Empire. I fully agree with you that they should be there because Ashoka wrote his edits in those languages also.Rumpelstiltskin223 23:36, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Sockpuppeting slander

PHG,

What the heck are you talking about? Before you bandy about such charges, why don't you do some real research on the actual article content. It's not even the same IP address. If some other fellow makes a change, what does it have to do with me? Why don't you spend less time on conspiracy theories, which you seem more interested in focusing on, and more time on doing real research. Indeed, your behavior is becoming increasingly unseemly. Put a sock in it.

Regards,

Devanampriya

Umm yeah, but I have no control over family members who were irritated by the map, aren't regular contributors, and made changes on their own with my internet connection. If that was my plan, PHG, sock puppeting would be going on as we speak and with greater frequency and impact. But it's not, and as you very well know, I've been using the same account for over a year, arguing the same old points, all while respecting the 3RR rule. So why don't you focus back on the issues, especially since you violate some of the very rules you argue for. i.e making changes on the article page instead of posting it on discussion first, which is what set this edit-war off in the first place.

You chided windy city dude for uploading his map directly, but did not consult other indo greek article editors when you put up your revised menander map directly onto the page.

So correct yourself instead of accusing others, and let's focus on the issues...

Devanampriya

PHG,

  Can the manufactured outrage. While I realized that many of your abilities come into question due to the quality of your wikipedia scholarship, I didn't realize that reading comprehension was one of them. So let me put it in more simple terms for your benefit:

-More than one person uses that internet connection -Unlike you who simply parrots opinions without digesting relevant facts from others, I discussed the edit war with family members to see what they thought. -Concurring with me, one of them wanted to take a look, and then decided to make a one time change (hence the IP address and the comment marked only as RV) without signing on with my name. -That occurred only once--hardly a case of sockpuppeting

"Why should I argue with a dishonest editor?". I ask myself the same question I attempt to discuss with you and reach a compromise that provides readers with a more accurate article. But your reliance on Tarn's poor interpretation and speculation smacks of bias like no other. There is a reason why yours is the only map that aggrandizes the indo-greeks' domains--there's no proof. There's no archaelogical evidence, no complete historiography, nothing. So why do you persist in prevaricating?

"See for a while how it feels"? To whom? That page is not your personal fiefdom to be ruled at your caprice. Moroever, you didn't even deign to get the opinion of others. You just went ahead and posted the map. Talk about hypocrisy. Other contributors have to kowtow to you and your biases while you change maps and violate agreements at your whim. That is the height of arrogance. This is meant to be an article that accurately displays history for the benefit of its readers, not a vanity page for your Indo-Greek fantasies.

You cry obsolescence but you use Tarn, whose work dates back to the 30s You talk about proof but furnish none You feign agreement, only to violate consensus when it is convenient You accuse others of pov-pushing in order to couch your philhellenism You accuse others of lying, when you are guilty of it in its vilest form

It is you who is dishonest and untrustworthy. What a shame for wikipedia...

Devanampriya

Taxila map

Hi, I just saw the map you added to the Taxila page. Did you create the map yourself? If so, is it possible to change a label in it? It has Greek names for most cities and rivers; however, the mountain range labeled "Hindu-Kush," a term that wasn't used until the 13 century CE. Alexander's name for it was "Kaukasos Indikos" (latinzed later to Caucasus Indicus). Can it be changed? Fowler&fowler«Talk» 19:38, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Fowler&fowler«Talk» 21:07, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Indo-Greek Map

Hi PHG, could you please give me a list of sources (i.e. the books used) for your Indo-Greek map, as it stands I do think your map should remain though I would just like to see the sources for my self to make sure, the arguements used against it seem very weak with an ulterior motive (i.e. out of xenophobia and anti-European sentiment) Plus I don't think Narain should be considered as a reliable source in comparison with Tarn (Eurocentric? Oh come on, Europeans are generally apathetic towards each other), Busagali as he is Indian himself during an anti-colonial, xenophobic and patriotic era. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Giani g (talk • contribs) 21:33, 16 January 2007 (UTC).

Hi again PHG, I think you should check with the Indo-Greek talk page, apparantly Narain is more generous than you have been, it's rather ironic considering "everyone" by which I mean Devan and his legion of xenophobes have tried to use Narain to decimate your articles. Hopefullly this "new discovery" by which I mean actual homework/research will help progress the article which has remained stagnent for quite a while since the protection has been added. ([[User:Giani g|Giani g]] 05:28, 4 March 2007 (UTC))

Your exchange with Devanampriya

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History of Buddhism

I feel that the article History of Buddhism no longer exemplifies the featured article standard on Wikipedia. I have mentioned some reasons on the article's talk page. I am contacting you because you were the original nominator of this article. I hope that you or someone else can make the necessary improvements to the article. If not, I will have to take it to WP:FAR. Feel free to contact me on my talk page for any further info. --Danaman5 06:41, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Sculpture in India

Your help in improving this article will be highly appreciated. Regards, deeptrivia (talk) 18:28, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Added your name to the Cartographers's list

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Kharavela inscription - feel free to delete

Hi PHG! Here's Mark Passehl's post on Hellenistica Yahoo group about the Kharavela inscription. Sponsianus 13:21, 25 January 2007 (UTC) Dear Group,

There is a problem with the name of the Indo-Greek (yavana) king chased back to Mathura by Khâravela, the great king of Kalinga and patron of Jainism responsible for the Hâthîgumphâ inscription. The distinguished Indian numismatist P.L.Gupta put it this way (_Kus.ân.a Coins and History_, D.K.Printworld, 1994, p.184, note 5; reprint of a 1985 article):

"The Hâthîgumphâ inscription refers in line 8 to a yavana-râja, who fled to Mathura when he realized the might of Khâravela. The name of the yavana-râja bears three letters, of which the second letter may be fairly read as ma or mi. It has been doubtfully restored as Dimita, meaning Demetrius the Indo-Greek king. But as early as 1951, I thought it to be Vimaka, meaning Vima Kadphises. The Patna Museum has a plaster cast of this inscription, which I personally examined when I was there as Curator. It confirms my suggestion."

Perhaps a case of Dr.Gupta seeing what he wished to see. The stated facts are that the name consists of three letters, of which the second is mi or ma, and that the king is categorized as yavana, not koshana or tukhara, nor saka or pahlava. Although it is possible that a Kushan king might have been referred to as a yavana and the personal name Vema/Vima expanded to Vimaka, both assumptions seem to be forcing the evidence to fit the theory. Moreover there are palaeographic problems with dating the Hâthîgumphâ text so late as Wema Kadphises (reigned 90s-110s CE). Many Indic script specialists seem to prefer the 1st century BC, or approximately contemporary with the Sanchi inscriptions from the reign of the Satavahana Satakarni I.

The only serious Indo-Greek candidate reigned near the beginning of the 1st century BC, some two centuries before Wema Kadphises, but well after the collapse of Mauryan power and also beyond the floruit of their S'unga successors. So an appropriate "window of opportunity" for the king from Orissa to have taken Patna and advanced up the Ganges and Yamuna close to Mathura.

The Indo-Greeks did not pass beyond the E.Punjab into the upper Yamuna valley until the reign of Menandros (ca.148-133 BC), and the last "Bactrian" king Demetrios, Demetrios III, belongs inside or very shortly after the reign of Menandros and certainly did not rule in Indic lands as he didn't strike any bilingual coinage (his types and their barbarous imitations tie him closely to the reign of Heliokles I and, like the latter, north of the Hindu Kush). Among the kings who post-date Menandros and certainly or probably did rule along the upper Yamuna and at Mathura (as evidenced by the Sonipat hoard) there is one (and only one) whose name matches the requirements of the Hâthîgumphâ text, line 8. The kharoshthi rendering of Amyntas' name on his bilingual coinage is: Amitasa (A-mi-ta-sa) in the genitive, i.e. nominative Amita. That is, three letters, with a middle mi too. So no need to force anything to match what survives in the Orissan text very well.

This needs to be considered when reconstructing the sequence and outline history of the various successors of Menandros.

Regards, Mark K.P.

SUBS SUNK WHERE?

CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE YOU GOT THIS INFORMATION ABOUT SUBS BEING SUNK OFF HAWAII.THEN THEY WERE SUNK OFF THE COAST OF JAPAN. CHECK DISCOVERY CHANNEL.COM ABOUT 400 CLASS SUBS AND OTHERS LIKE I-58. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JRMAN (talk • contribs) 08:46, 29 January 2007 (UTC).

Ironclads: new discussion

Hello, PHG.

I have started a new discussion on the Ironclad warship Talk Page, called Neutrality needed, which has provoked some interesting responses. I hope that you will find it to be of interest.

Regards, John Moore 309 17:40, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

More Classical names

PHG, my work on translating your map is almost done. Obviously finding Greco-Latin names for all the places listed would be impossible, but I have gotten a significant percentage. Is there any chance you would know of a locus classicus for any of the following placenames?

• Ferghana
• Kashgar
• Surkh Kotal/Rabatak
• Saketa
• Vidisa
• Champa
• Pratishthana
• Amaravati
• Kucha
• Turfan

On a similar note, Kuninda Kingdom says that "[t]he Greek historian Ptolemy linked the origin of the Kuninda to the country where the rivers Ganges, Yamuna, and Beas originate", but I cannot find this passage. I put up a "specify" tag there and have had no luck. Since you have been doing such a good job of answering my "specify" requests, do you know this one?

Thanks again, Iustinus 02:30, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Buddhist art up for featured article review

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Deletion of Sunga Map

It was not my intention to delete the map. I have made my edit while maintaining the map.

Devanampriya 04:35, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome!

Hello PHG! I too have been an admirer of your many contributions to Wikipedia. Thank you for your hard work and offering of your knowledge to the world community! I am still a novice on Wikipedia; for example, I'm not sure if this is the correct way to respond to your friendly message, nor am I sure how exactly to sign. I will slowly learn, and am of course very willing to be taught! As for the CoinIndia website, yes, indeed, I am the author of that, and I have always been willing for photographs from the site to be uploaded to Wikipedia. Do you serve as an adopter? All the best, CoinIndia 11:54, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I guess you pre-empted me, as I was going to author some material on the Paratarajas, perhaps linking to the existing entry for the Paradas. But I will bow to your seniority, and will look with interest at your article.

Re the photos, I looked at the GDFL license information, and I'm a little reluctant to simply post the photos in the public domain. Could you upload photos as you have done from my site in the past, with a link to the source and saying I have granted permission for use on Wikipedia but retain all other copyright? The GDFL license seems to make the photos fair game for anyone and for whatever use they want to put them. All the best, CoinIndia 21:46, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

OK, thanks, I will write up something within the next few days. I am working on a new paper on the Paratarajas, so now is the time to do it. I want to ask your advice about something though. The "Paratarajas" are of course the rulers of the Parata people, so I am wondering if the entry should be under Paratas with perhaps a redirecting link from Paratarajas, since that has (I hope temporarily) become the name by which people refer to them. Further, in the Sanskrit sources, these people are known as the Paradas, so should the new information be there instead, with redirecting links from Paratas and Paratarajas? What do you think?

On a separate matter, since you are knowledgeable about Buddhist art, I have uploaded a photograph of an Avalokitesvara I took last summer at the British Museum. You can see it on my user page. What struck me about this statue is that the topknot has been shaped in such a way that it looks like the glans of a penis! I wonder if this is something that has perhaps been noted or seen elsewhere. CoinIndia 13:14, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Hephthalites

The Hephthalites dynasties are certainly part of the "History of Greater Iran". Their headquarters were in what is now Afghanistan, and for over a century they became the main enemy of the Sassanids, sometimes even conquering Herat and going as far as Kerman. See the Encyclopaedia Iranica for more details (especially the articles written by Richard Nelson Frye). It was not until Khusraw Anushirvan that the Persians managed to destroy the Hephthalites, annexing most of their lands. Since the region of modern Afghanistan - by definition - is the eastern part of ancient Iran, then the template "History of Greater Iran" is very relevant. Not only this template, but also the template "History of India". Tājik 11:33, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi brother . at last you found your motherland and origin. Great work.

From Vishal Prakash Dudhane. Viswhal1976 ( Now blocked by Maratha vandalist ). See also Maratha and Maratha Clan System.

I remember long time ago when i watching T.V i saw a footeage that showed a local Java , Philipience or what , i dont remember , but it showed two gropes of several horse rider men haveing juvinial wepon in hands and throwing and fightin each other at a grownd and werein Maratha type hats. Also the horses , Bulls , Men and ther costume seem to me very familiar. I gotta a missing link their. Congrajulations brother. You have achived great work.

Republic of Ezo

Please double check the references! The independent "Republic of Ezo" was set up on Meiji 1, December 15 (1/27/1869). Seven 08:12, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Gondophares crest

Hi Parthian Shot. Would you have a reference for the "Crest of Gondophares according to Iranian sources". Do you know what are the Iranian sources in question? Regards PHG 08:29, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi. Sure -- I'm going to add it to the text. PS. your artworks are great – very impressive. Regards. ← ← Parthian Shot (Talk) 08:38, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

2003 figures

So are you going to update the 2003 figures or not? I will have a go if you don't, but then I wouldn't be sure of the accuracy. John Smith's 12:41, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm hardly bullying you. I asked a question which I had already asked and you have not responded to. However I believe the 2003 figures are better to use. If you wish to discuss the matter further please use the Japan talk page. John Smith's 14:13, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Antiochus IV

The prophecy in Daniel about Antiochus is an example of vaticinum ex eventu. Daniel is known, in the form we have it, to have been written pseudepigraphically in the 2nd century BC (the Aramaic middle chapters may be a century or so earlier) during Antiochus' persecution of the Jews 1, 2, 3 (also see Encarta, Albertz 1988, Dever 2001, the Jerusalem Bible's introduction, probably any introductory textbook to biblical studies); I took out the reference to the prophecy because 1) saying there is a mysterious prophecy that some believe refers to Antiochus is misleading; the prophecy does refer to him, because it was written during his reign retroactively, and 2) stating this in the article will generate an edit war with evangelicals, which is bad for the quality of the article. Therefore, since it is a peripheral detail, I believe it is best left out of the article; it is dealt with in the Book of Daniel article, which can be linked to the article on Antiochus.--Rob117 02:42, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Inadvertant Editing

Dear PHG, While editing the article to reduce empty spaces between the sections the whole article (Satavahanas) got changed. You may revert the changes to earlier versions. I made a change: Dravidian to Proto-Dravidian.Kumarrao 07:45, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Could you please reduce the empty spaces between the sections in 'Satavahana' article?Kumarrao 09:44, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Image:MenanderCoin.jpg

Hi. Is it your work?--Vaya 12:48, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Weasel Words and Original Research

PHG,

It is original research because you are providing spin on an author's interpretations. When you discuss the successors to the Satavahanas, it is one thing to cite the author's quote and another to discuss what you believe the case to be--which is why I deleted it. Moreover, you have engaged in original research throughout your time on wikipedia from the indo greeks to the domains of the Indo Scythians (where is the published map or author whom you base this on) to the influence of names (Sikandar did gain circulation on the subcontinent because of Alexander's influence on India but because of Persianized Turks who conquered Northern India). Your errors and poor scholarship, ie the Huns and Pataliputra do not reflect well on the Encyclopedia.

Look, I have no desire to antagonize you nor to continue acrimonious debates, so please don't assume I am writing with a confrontational tone. As always, I have been seeking discussion and understanding in the aim of creating the most accurate entries possible. I have compromised before, i.e. the Mauryas and Seleucus' daughter. I would only hope you would do the same at some point. My edits are not designed to further some nationalist agenda (take a look at my edits: I have corrected claims of indian victories when they were defeats, I have cleaned up vandalism on Augustus' page, and have diluted baseless claims "satavahanas were the greatest power in Asia" etc,etc). However, Europeans classicists, as Frank W. Holt himself notes, have a habit of having it both ways and misrepresenting Indian history in a way that is overly favorable to foreigners, especially the greeks. Bear in mind that British Imperialists justified their rule of India by referencing previous invaders i.e. Indo Aryans, Greeks, etc. Many of your sources have been recognized to continue that tradition, hence the challenges. David Duke and Pim Fortyn can all by cited as verifiable sources, but that does not make them accurate or reliable. Hence, this is not vandalism.

However, weasel words do count as vandalism, and when you craft a one-sided narrative (i.e. greeks invading to protect buddhism rather than gain territory and wealth, the western satraps defending against the "rampaging" Satavahanas, etc) I am compelled to clean it up. Try to look at things from someone else's perspective; I seek to do that all the time. Perhaps you should do the same.

Devanampriya 18:04, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

There you go again, PHG. Instead of absorbing the feedback and perspectives of others, you go on the attack. Neither you nor anyone above wikipedia is above the law:

• The Indo Scythian map is not referenced. You are conducting original research in the application of Primary sources. No historian has ever advanced the claim of Scythian conquest of the entire Gangetic plain.
• I didn't comment yet on your Sunga map because it is erroneous to begin with. Instead of trying to develop a competing map, which knowing your recalcitrance you would have deleted without explanation, I've been looking around to find a professional, referenced map that we can use with permission
• Same with the Satavahana map (which you very recently posted, btw). I deleted lines stating that "the satavahanas were the most powerful force in asia", if the map is inaccurate and not properly reference, the same corollary applies. It seems to me that you are aware of your poor scholarship here and are merely seeking to counter-accuse.
• You have applied original research on the Chandragupta Maurya page where you use quotes from a play to mention the "powerful composite army". Original research and weasel words. Where are the recognized historians who state those words and back up those claims. Just for the record, you don't count as one.
• You routinely clog up articles with primary quotes, which negatively impact the readability of the article. I am not the only one who has noticed this. See the "Constantine" page. You then take these primary quotes and spin them to suit your preferred interpretation of events.
• This links up with the rapson quote. That quote is clearly unnecessary as there was already a section discussing the break up of the Satavahana empire. You only relished this quote because of the possibility of an Indo-Greek mention. There is no need for that section let alone Rapson's interpretation of what the Matsya purana could imply. Morevoer, no historian posits the claim that indo greeks formed some sort of successor state to the satavahanas. As I've told you repeatedly, the term Yavana is often synonymous with foreigner in general. As for irrelevant quotes, my policy doesn't just target your hellenocentric edits. I have requested users to remove the section on Vikramaditya's conquests in the Hunas section.
• This leads me again to the Yamuna article. Your drawn out sophistry on why Seleucus needs to be mentioned on the Yamuna page is an example of why I've been forced to delete your edits. Your very example "if someone reading about Alexander's campaigns reads that he didn't conquer the Yamuna, they will look it up and realize that the greek discovered it after Seleucus' campaigns" is eurocentric. These articles are to assume beginners of every background, nationality, and interest group, not just those who daydream about greek expansion. According to your logic, we should have a greek section for the China article due to the mention of the "seres" in western classical accounts. Moreover, that phrase is worded in such a way that users will think that Seleucus campaigned as far as the Yamuna, which is bunk.
• You used poor/biased sources to defend a claim that no historian has advanced, which is that the huns sacked Guptan Pataliputra. Your source was replete with spelling mistakes and contentious claims.
• You committed original research with your "Yavanajataka was the first indian treatise on astronomy" claim, your Greek influence on Indian coinage can be seen with the "Sikander Sani" claim on Delhi Sultanate coins. You are guilty of weasel words when you poison the narrative with such words as "rampaging Satavahanas".
• If you make erroneous claims, poorly sourced entries, and one-sided narratives, I have every right, and indeed it is my duty, to delete them.

I truly hope that you will consider mending your ways and taking the advice of a fellow contributor. Sadly, your track record does not reflect well in that department.

Devanampriya 00:26, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

French Military Mission to Japan (1872-1880)

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Thank you

Thanks very much for the Satow "presents", PHG. Which book were they from, and where and when published? Also, if you can find a photo/portrait of Joseph Henry Longford that really will be brilliant. I have searched high and low with no success. --Historian 13:26, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Ai Khanoum "foundation stone"

Hi! I notice you have been updating the Ai Khanoum page and wish to thank you for your improvements. I thought that, because of your interest in the subject, you might be the person who could tell me about the so-called "foundation-stone" of Ai Khanoum. The only article I have been able to find on the subject is this one at: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/south_asia/6462433.stm . Unfortunately, it does not say why "They" are so sure the city was founded by Alexander or that he actuall "touched" this foundation stone - not to mention other intriguing questions that arise. I wonder if you have any more information on it, or could steer me in the right direction, please? Feel free to email me directly if you wish at: wynhill@bigpond.com Many thanks once again. John Hill 04:42, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Ai Khanoum again

Hi again! I have just been sent a link to a German language article in Spiegel online with a series of wonderful photos, including one of the stone phallus. I have also been sent the email address of the Swiss curator who has looked after the collection for the past few years and has been making the claim that Alexander founded the city. So, I have just written to him and will let you know what he replies. In the meantime - treat yourself by enjoying the photos at this site: http://www.spiegel.de/kultur/gesellschaft/0,1518,472307,00.html Cheers, John Hill 10:29, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

More on Ai Khanoum

The internet is such a marvellous tool! I have already heard back from Paul Bucherer-Dietschi, Director of Swiss Afghanistan Institute and past-director of Afghanistan Museum in Exile who is, at the moment in Kabul!

He says, in his letter:

"So what I said exactely was: If Ai Khanoum was founded by Alexander, than this item must have been handled by him self.

Unfortunately the object was found by illegal diggers and they thought to have discovered an antique sex-shop. The stone slab with - most probably - an inscription was either not discovered or it was to heavy to take it away. I have great hopes, that one day it may be found agein.

The very best sources on Ai Khanoum are certainly the relevant DAFA publications by Paul Bernard and others."

So, the articles by the BBC and Spiegl Online were, in fact, very misleading. Well, at least we know now what the situation was.

Best wishes, John Hill 23:06, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Ai Khanoum on the mind

Hi! I noticed you put some of the comments about the findings from Ai Khanoum on the page. I have (temporarily - I hope) removed them because they were sent in a letter - not for publication I will write to him tomorrow or the next day and ask him if we can quote him in the article. Sorry - I should have made this plain when I wrote. I hate to bother him at the moment as I am sure he is very busy in Kabul - but I will write anyway and just say to him there is no rush but we would be very grateful if we could quote him in the Wikipedia article. I forgot also that these pages are not private and I should not have quoted his letter here - but it was done with good intentions. I hope he won't mind. Cheers, John Hill 09:21, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Image:KataNoiMoreWaves.JPG

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Indo-Greeks

Hi, just a short note to tell you that I uploaded your Image:MenanderDikaiou.jpg to the commons. I have read several articles you have contributed in and seen several of your drawings and photos. I was much impressed. Thank you PHG.--FocalPoint 19:35, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Would you be so kind

... so as to explain why you are pushing the Roman history material so strongly [2] here? (And in the revert you made before I saved my edit at Yamuna. Reverting should be a rare and preferably last resort! Safer to slap a champion boxer in the face--well, smarter anyway.)
Unexpected use of template {{2}} - see Template:2 for details.Besides being capable of being handled via a note (Hell, just imbed that stuff in a comment), all the article really needs is the translation names per the Greeks and Romans.
Unexpected use of template {{2}} - see Template:2 for details.Being as that valley where they are putting in the SLY was an ancient caravan route, and even caravans from the Ganges would travel westward then northwards to skirt the Caspian to reach far Cathay, so the facts have long been established that there was lots of trade between India and Rome, Rome and China, and even Greece and China. Such has been rather well established beyond any doubt the past 30 years, so where is the impetus to push other peoples buttons with a quote that really doesn't fit? //FrankB 02:29, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Minié rifle

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Japanese Embassy to the United States (1860)

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Accidental Revert

I think I accidentally reverted your latest addition. You may want to check that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Iain marcuson (talk • contribs) 05:20, 17 April 2007 (UTC).

Dayuan featured article review

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Christianity and Buddhism

I salvaged what I could. I see nothing else that would be similar (i.e., not destroyed) in an encyclopedic article. If you can see something that has something other than sheer quantity (or cites; crap with a few ref tags is still crap) to recommend it, please do bring up specifics on the Talk page and we can see how to re-incorporate it. A.J.A. 18:12, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Ptolemaic Egypt

Hi PHG. I've just reverted your edit to Ptolemaic Egypt. You must understand that moves made this way are absolutely unacceptable, because they completely destroy the history of the article. Also, you've created this way a great number of double redirects. I must also object to moving an important article as this one unilaterally, and under a title that is not free of dispute (for example, Ptolemaic Kingdom may have been preferred). I hope you don't take these notes bad: I've great admiration for your work, but here I must disagree with your actions. Ciao, Aldux 14:32, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi Aldux,

I may have been too bold on this one. I just thought it was pretty obvious that "Ptolemaic Egypt" was not an appropriate title for the subject (with such a title, the article should typically deal with life in Egypt under the Ptolemies: agriculture, life of the people etc...). The subject is clearly the Ptolemaic Empire (or, maybe Kingdom), which by the way, did not limit itself to Egypt (the Levant was also a part of Ptolemaic territories). Do you see what I mean? I'll bring the discussion to the Talk Page. Best regards. PHG 16:03, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

History of India

I may be obtuse here, but I don't see the point of including the details of all the dynasties of the Magadha Empire. The idea seems to me is to give all the highlights of historical periods. The highlight of this period I am sure you will agree, is the Maurya Empire and it has adequate space. If we try to include all the dynasties the page will become too long. After all there are other empires then the Magadha empire, for eg Islamic Sultanates which are treated shortly. I am not sure that 4 entire paragraphs are required for Magadha Empire anyway. What do you think?--Shahab 18:21, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks so much!

Hi again! Thank you so very much for putting me on to the book - I had not heard of it previously. I am now working on the finishing touches to the final Appendix to the much revised and expanded version of my on-line book and hope to get it off to the publishers soon. I wish I had the new book on the Sakas here at the moment as I am busily dealing with all the Saka groups who invaded Bactria/Daxia along with the Tocharians, and trying to write up all the major theories about the origins of the Yuezhi and the Kushans. I will order a copy - but it is unlikely to be here in time for me to make use of it in this edition of my book.

I have been noticing some of your recent activities on the Wikipedia - particularly your trials over the Chandragupta article and fights over whether your maps should or shouldn't be allowed in the Wikipedia because someone thinks they represent "original research" (dirty words - those!!!). I just want to say I am very sympathetic with all your trials and tribulations as I have been having my own (boring and wearing) battles too - mainly on pages relating to the Jats - but also with lots of childish vandalism on many other pages. I, for one, am deeply grateful for all the fine work you have been doing - especially on Kushan-related articles (and I love the maps - they are great!). All my very best wishes, and thanks again for letting me know the good news. John Hill 09:19, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

3rd revert

Hello PHG. I can see the breaking of an edit war between you and Devanampriya on the article Patna, and I thought I'd let you know that you just broke WP:3RR; regardless of who's right or wrong, if this continues I'll report you to WP:AN/3RR, so please calm down and talk this out with the other editors. Thank you. --Εξαίρετος (msg) 20:59, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi Exairetos. Thanks for the heads-up, but I am still within 3 reverts for 24 hours. Got your point though. Best regards. PHG 21:04, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

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Vandalism at Satavahana article-- Vishal Prakash Dudhane -- Vishal1976

You are faceing the same vandalist attacts at your good work as i have face at Maratha Clan System. What can we do brother.

Attempt at Mediation

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DYK

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Front homosexuel d'action révolutionnaire

Thanks for fixing my very poor French translation. I didn't understand why they would want to dismantle walls... but, everyone needs a hobby. Now I understand. gren グレン 04:15, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm... maybe raser les murs could be equated with "be int the closet"? --Iustinus 08:58, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks PHG for all your ancient historical contribs. Kindly nominated by Ghirlandajo. Keep it up! Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:50, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

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Categories

Hi, PHG. Why do you never categorize your very nice articles? Do you think categorization is redundant? --Ghirla^-трёп- 19:11, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Great work

I very much appreciate your input in Amaravati article. The photographs of the stupa sculpture are beautiful. Is it possible for you to get a picture of the stupa model and include it? Kumarrao 13:07, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

I very much appreciate your work on Asian articles in general. Your contribution to wikipedia has been invaluable. Incidentally I was reading the Boshin War article the other day and thinking it is one of the best articles on history I have read on wikipedia -before I knew it was by you!!!. -superb. Keep it up I laud it!!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^{"Expecting you" Contribs} 11:08, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

File:Tenzin Gyatzo foto 1.jpg		The Tibetan Award of Excellence
		For your outstanding work on East Asian and Buddhist related articles your contribution is a delight to read and has been admirable ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 11:13, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Ordos people

Hi, PHG! Great work on the Ordos people page! I will try to add to it if I can find anything worthwhile you haven't already discovered. Do drop me an email sometime at wynhill@bigpond.com as I would like to contact you about sending you some papers, etc. Cheers and congratulations! John Hill 07:08, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Well deserved. LOL I've just been amusing myself browsing through articles on Category:Japanese cuisine the last few minutes -you should check it out. I am amazed at the coverage there is even categories full of devices and all sorts - its like an encyclopedia of its own on Japanese cuisine!!!! This project has grown into something quite astonishing hasn't it. The potential is beyong imagination! Keep up the great work! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^{"Expecting you" Contribs} 17:56, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 22 June, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Roman trade with India, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Yomangani^talk 13:46, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Taxila copper plate

I am pretty sure I have the whole text here - but I am extremely busy at the moment. Will get back to you with the translation just as soon as I can. Cheers, John Hill 00:12, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Greek normalization

The amount of work I've done on these articles is surely insignificant compared to yours. :) There are basically two motivations behind my recent edits.

My main concern to replace the lunate sigmas with normal sigmas, since it turns out the Unicode lunate sigma characters are not supposed to be used as part of regular text, and it's general practice to use modern letterforms when transcribing ancient texts. Since that's a change I made, I feel responsible for cleaning it up.

While I was at it, everything being in uppercase bugged me because 1) it really jumps out at you as a reader, when really the text is not that important compared to the rest of the article, and 2) I didn't see a really good reason for it, since Ancient Greek is routinely given in lowercase in modern publications even though it's anachronistic and the ancients only used uppercase. The ease of reading argument doesn't seem very strong to me, if anything lowercase keeps people from confusing letters like Η and Υ with their Latin lookalikes, and I find it easier to read as Greek for that reason (and because I'm used to seeing Greek in mostly lowercase); in any case the Greek text is only being given for extra information, there should always be a transcription or translation since we can't assume English readers know any Greek at all.

It seems to me like there's two separate issues here, use of text in the article proper and in coin legends on image captions. I definitely think something like a ruler's name in parentheses in the opening sentence should stay lowercase, since that's the overwhelming practice for other ancient Greek names (see e.g. Alexander the Great). I changed them both to be consistent, but if you feel strongly about the coin captions being uppercase I could change those back. You seem to be a coin enthusiast, do coin-oriented publications generally publish legends in all caps? It just seems distracting to me when there's something like this with A BIG LONG INSCRIPTION JUMPING OUT IN ALL CAPITALS, when we really want the reader to be paying attention to the actual article text.

In any case I only changed some of the articles because I figured you might want to weigh in, so no big deal to fix things. DopefishJustin 11:05, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 25 June, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ordos people, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Carabinieri 21:35, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Taxila Copper-Plate Inscription of Patika. The year 78.

Hi again! Yes, I found Konow's book in a box today (many of my books are stored in boxes, unfortunately) so I do have the inscription and I could either send you all of Sten Konow's interesting notes including the original text and translation (pp. 23 to 29 of his Kharosthi Inscriptions) by scanning the pages and sending them to you via email or, if you prefer, I will just type out the translation itself (only about half a page). But, unfortunately, you may have to wait a few days as I have 6 guests arriving this morning and will probably have to devote most of the next few days to them. Please let me know which you prefer. I could quickly scan and email the appropriate pages to you if you send me an email address. Cheers, John Hill 17:43, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Korea-Japan exchanges

Thanks for the Korean-Japanese early exchanges template. Nice work. LordAmeth 10:07, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Yuezhi

I had noticed that you had removed almost all my addition at Yuezhi for no reason. Stop this alright, I am not particular in good mood. And you added a citiation like what? For crying out loud, Shiji to assert Yuezhi existed in 6th century BC? Who would buy this crap anyway? Eiorgiomugini 00:36, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

White people with long hair (Shan Hai Jing)

Do you have any quote for it? Because I certainly cannot locate them from the original texts, they are found in nowhere, if you do have the quote, please do provide one. Thanks Eiorgiomugini 06:49, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

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Eiorgiomugini

I noticed that the guy reported you on WP:AN3. My condolences. You are not the first one (the last time he did that to me he was blocked for a week). Actually, his constant revert warring, incivility, arbitrary removal of referenced material, joined to contempt for English grammar, made me abandon editing articles even remotely related to China. I still hope that he can be reformed. Our opinions about each other may be found at the top of Nlu's talk page. And let me remind you that you may express your opinion on his behaviour here. --Ghirla^-трёп- 17:49, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Edit conflict on Christianity and Buddhism

Hi,

I just overwrote your recent edit to this article. I hit an edit conflict and, since my edit was a massive re-org, I figured it would be easier to re-do your edit than it would be to re-do mine. No disrespect was intended. Would you please re-read the intro of the current version and re-do whatever edits you think are needed to improve it?

Thanx.

--Richard 05:23, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Never mind. I just re-inserted your version of the lead. Thanks for doing that. It is an improvement.

--Richard 06:08, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi PHG

I'm PericlesofAthens, love the artwork you have. The reason that I'm bugging you is that the picture for the article on the ancient Han Dynasty Chinese scientist Zhang Heng has gone missing, probably due to a copyright issue. I was wondering if you had any spare time to draw your own take on Zhang Heng, from a list of portrait paintings found on google images. It doesn't have to be a da Vinci masterpiece or anything, just a simple sketch would do (but if you do have the time to do a painting, by all means, do so!)

Thanks.--PericlesofAthens 21:04, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Um, you still around PHG?--PericlesofAthens 16:26, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

That's fine. Could you point me in the direction of another good wiki artist? One besides user:Wikimachine, as he is busy as well.--PericlesofAthens 18:48, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Greco-Buddhism FAR

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Hi there PHG. You've done a great job on Buddhism over the years, but I feel that this article needs to be modernised and improved to current FA standards. Thanks, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 05:08, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

How to create maps

Hi, I noticed that you have created many maps (all look great, btw). In fact, I've used one of yours in Economy of Ancient Tamil Country. I wanted to create a map showing the locations of 10-15 cities in the ancient Tamil country (modern-day Tamil Nadu + Kerala). What is the best way to go about doing this ? I have a book that has these location marked, but on different maps. I was hoping to create one by hand and consolidate all the locations there. Is there any software or a wiki tool that lets us do this ? Thanks. Lotlil 03:58, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip, I will give it a shot. Lotlil 05:19, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi

I noticed the Sillan crown you uploaded for one of your templates (thank you and good job by the way) was from the Musee Guimet and so I was wondering if you had taken any other pictures of the Korean art there. Particularly, I am looking for an image of the pensive Maitreya from Paekche exhibited at that museum. I didn't see it on your user page here and am assuming that you don't use the PHG account on Wikipedia Commons all that often which is why I'm asking. I guess while I'm at it, do you have any other Japanese Buddhist sculpture images?

By the way, I have an image of a later Korean gilt-bronze crown that is more stylistically and chronologically contemperaneous (probably) to the Kofun crown you uploaded that I can send you if you're interested once I have access to a cord for my camera.

Thanks for your time, and hard work. Tortfeasor 01:54, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you again. Just wanted to make sure you saw my message. Thanks again for your time. Tortfeasor 15:42, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Wow! Thanks for taking the time to go and take great photos, look to see if you took the photo of the specific image requsted (in my case), and generously share them. I really appreciate it. Please let me know if I can help you with anything in the future. Tortfeasor 23:13, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Template:Hellenistic rulers

That template is full of fair use images, but the template is not used in any articles. What is your plan for it? — Carl (CBM · talk) 03:34, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Your Help needed please

Please can you help. Please can you keep an eye on this aticle for the next 3 months or so. Please can you apply the same rigour you have applied to articles on wikipedia to the article on the Porus article there is user (User:Intothefire) saying King Porus was from the Kukhran according to Oral history. I mean come on this outrageous to even post something like this on Wikipedia without any references or verifiable references but say ORAL HISTORY says he was from the Kukhran is appalling. I am Indian and there is NO scholar or University academic who says he was from the some fringe group called the Kukhran. Most Indian academics would be appalled by this falsehood and unsubstantiated claim. Please take this up immediately and apply your regular rigour to this article - absolutely appalling abuse of Wikipedia.--Sikh historian 23:52, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

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Following advice from the Wikipedia lawyer that the images are indeed copyrightable, I have tagged the following images with the {{non-free currency}}. But I think it is possible to replace the images with free ones, since someone else could phtograph the coins. Therefore I have marked the images as replaceable fair use. Another admin will review them in several days and delete them if he or she agrees they are replaceable. You can dispute that any of them is replaceable using this procedure:

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Thanks for message .

he account Ancientcoinsofindia was mine but i forgot the password ( as it was not used since long time) and hence created another account Ancientcoinsofindia1 . i am not familier with editing . My intention is not to advertise or to promote . My website is not commercial but it is educational . All images i had uploaded are my sole property . i had offered every image and information free of cost for wikipedia under Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 license (Use with proper attribution to my wesite).

Link : http://www.geocities.com/ancientcoinsofindia/

I had seen your great contribution for enriching the wikipedia & i salute for your restless efforts .

Thanks so much!

Thanks so much for the Rosetta Stone Barnstar! I am thrilled and proud to receive it - and it is a special honour coming from you, as you have done so much to make the Asian history pages informative, accurate and beautiful. Thank you, and bows, John Hill 07:03, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

I have just noticed you posted this award some time ago - sorry I have taken so long to reply - I hardly ever look at my own page and I just missed it. Cheers, John

Better version

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Ainu Ceremonial Dress

Hi. I retouched Image:AinuCeremonialDress.jpg a bit so it focused on the clothing and no longer featured your reflaction/everything else reflecting onto it. [4] Would you like to use this instead? I didn't retouch the other Ainu image of yours since it seemed fine. --Mahaloha 04:58, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

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Image:YangzhouKatarinaVilioniTomb1342.jpg

PHG- I have done as you asked. See commons:Image:YangzhouKatarinaVilioniTomb1342.jpg. Also, check your email. I sent you an article (hopefully to the correct address). --Iustinus 22:51, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

My pleasure. Katarina Vilioni is a nice short article, so I really should write a Latin version. But what to call Yangzhou has me hesitating: surely the European community there at the time had their own name for it, if not in Latin, then at least in some westerized form.

Also, please let me know if you received the article I sent: I worry that I got your address somehow wrong.

--Iustinus 00:09, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Image: Jules Brunet and military advisors

Hi, great article and illustrations. I am very curious about the picture you posted of the group of military advisors taken before their departure for Japan. You give the source as Le Monde Illustre, I guess from 1866? Do you have any further citation such a page no. or a secondary source that has this pic? I am doing research on another Frenchman in Japan roughly at this time and was wondering if he was part of that expedition. The original source might provide names. Thanks for any help you can give! Straitgate 05:42, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. He is kind of obscure and signs himself G. Pradier. Apparently he arrived in Japan in 1865 however, so it may be too early for the Brunet party. He says he departed in late 1867. There was another Pradier, Auguste Pradier whom Christian Polak in his work Soie et Lumieres mentions as being with Brunet so I am just trying to get to the bottom of it. The Pradier I am talking about also participated in the expedition against Korea in 1866, it is that aspect I am researching but first trying to confirm his identity. Straitgate 19:16, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Maes Titianus

Your map brings it into focus! Thank you. --Wetman 06:27, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

BC/BCE

Rather than have an edit war, I suggest we stop reverting the Japanese Paleolithic page. I have started a discussion on Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style asking for an interpretation of the consistency policy.

However, I would ask that you not comment for a while until editors have had a chance to put their views across, so as not to prejudice the discussion. I have not put my own view across yet. If we are lucky the opinions expressed will be fairly uniform. If there is an either-way discussion we can add our thoughts too. John Smith's 14:22, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

There's no "need" to change it back - the fact you "had" to says something about you. John Smith's 10:49, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

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Welcome

Hi, I haven't seen you around WPCHINA before, welcome to our little project. I see you have an interest in Tibet, I hope you can bring some much needed balance to our coverage of the subject. --Ideogram 16:54, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

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Unintentional. PHG 15:09, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

That's what the templates are for - to point it out to you. John Smith's 15:10, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

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Question Re Image

Image:FrenchTroopsMadagasgar.jpg shows French troops in Madagascar with 2 conflicting dates: 1883 and 1895. Can you determine which year is the correct one? Thanks Ekem 03:22, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Rene Grousset

Hi PHG, I was just wondering why you were using Rene Grousset as a source for crusade articles? That's a pretty old book and there are a lot more recent works to choose from (in English as well as French). It seems kind of odd so I thought I would ask. Adam Bishop 07:32, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

That's cool. I hope I didn't come across as dismissive or insulting, now that I read my own question again! Adam Bishop 00:58, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

DYK

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Thanks again PHG for all your Asian ancient history. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:51, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Fair use images

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Franco-Mongol alliance

I saw that article today, which seems to be predominantly your creation. It seems quite comprehensive and well-sourced with lots of nice images and quotations from primary sources. Good work! Srnec 17:20, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Franco-Mongol alliance

WOW! - More later when I have had time to read and digest it all properly. Thanks so much for your amazing contribution. John Hill 07:18, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Templars and Mongols

Hi PHG.  :) It's my hope that there's just a bit of misunderstanding here that'll get ironed out once we get our sources squared away. I see that you've done a phenomenal amount of superb work on Wikipedia, and I look forward to getting to know you better.  :) I'm lining up my own sources on the Templars now -- I spent several hours last night pulling lots of books off of shelves, and am continuing with the research today. I've also fired off an email to Malcolm Barber, since he had helped before with proofreading our Knights Templar article. I haven't been able to persuade him to actually join Wikipedia, but he's definitely a valuable source of information regarding this time period.

Could you let me know which books about the Templars that you currently have, so I can make sure that we're "reading from the same page"? For example, which of the Barber books do you have? Do you have The Crusades Through Arab Eyes? Or how about some of the "debunking" books, such as Newman's The Real History Behind the Templars or Burstein's Secrets of the Code? I'm open to simply transcribing sections from my books so that you can read them yourself, but it would be easier if I could just point at page numbers. Best, Elonka 20:54, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, I don't have either of those books, so we may end up transcribing to each other.  :) Also, just to make sure that we're talking about the same thing: I am in agreement that the Mongols were attempting to ally with the "Franj", the Europeans, against the Mamluks. It was indeed a major topic around that time, as the Mamluks had taken over Egypt and were pushing north, the Mongols were pushing west, which displaced the Turks, who took over Jerusalem, and the Christians were getting squeezed out to the West, and there was quite a bit of diplomacy going on, with the desire to form an alliance between the Christians on the West and the Mongols on the East, to form a "pincer" in which to capture the Mamluks. In that general sense, I think we have agreement? Where we're in disagreement, is in the amount of involvement that the Templars had in this diplomacy, and whether or not the Templars were a substantial fighting force in alliance with the Mongols. According to my sources, they weren't (yes, I'm lining up specific refs, though right now I'm just trying to get my arms around the problem). So I guess my question for you is, do your books specifically state the information about de Molay, or was this something that you "filled in" from other websites? Also, are you by any chance on IMs or on IRC? I get the feeling that some direct two-way communication might be beneficial here.  :) Thanks, Elonka 21:15, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi PHG, could you please drop me a line in email so that I have your address, and then I'll send you that PDF? My address is elonka@aol.com . Also, for the record, I hope you're not taking my strong stance at Franco-Mongol alliance, personally? I have great respect for you as an editor, and feel that our current back-and-forth is going to result in a very strong article, indeed. I'm very much enjoying expanding my knowledge about the Mongols, and hope that you're feeling the same as you learn more about the European and Templar events from that time period. In some ways, I see our debate almost like a microcosm of the events of the 13th century, as you with your expertise about the Mongols, are advancing and meshing with my knowledge about the Templars!  :) Best, Elonka 23:02, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

FYI, I've been checking my email but haven't received anything yet. Maybe the wiki-servers are slow? If you'd like to write to me directly, just send a note to elonka@aol.com . Best, Elonka 23:56, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

PHG, I have to admit some very strong concerns about your recent additions to the article at Franco-Mongol alliance, and feel that you're doing too much original research. The Crusades are well-documented, and for you to be making such a major claim as "The Mongols captured Jerusalem in 1300", makes me very uncomfortable. Exceptional claims require exceptional sources, and you're effectively trying to add information that is in opposition to what scores of reliable books and articles have said about that time in history. Please, I urge you to proceed with caution. --Elonka 16:26, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

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		Awarded to PHG for his superlative work on such fascinating subjects as Franco-Mongol alliance and Christianity among the Mongols by Ghirla-трёп- 18:31, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

As a teen, I was captivated by Gumilev's speculation that Temujin's mother was a Nestorian Christian and that explained his lenient attitude to Christian populations. Ever since then, I wished to write something on these subjects. Crap, you beat me to it. --Ghirla^-трёп- 13:29, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Image:AdshoCarnelianSeal.jpg

Hi, Image:AdshoCarnelianSeal.jpg doesn't display for some reason. Could you upload a fix please? Thanks. -- Fullstop 19:47, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
ps: strange, but the older version works alright.

Hummm, it appears OK on my computer... Regards PHG 19:56, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

I think I've found the problem. The resolution per exif (300 dpi) didn't jive with that of the jpeg data (72 dpi). Incidentally (but not directly the problem), the file doesn't have a JFIF header, and starts with the EXIF header right away. -- Fullstop 21:23, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Image displays fine now. Appears to have been due to the "technical difficulties" referred to in the "The Wikimedia servers encountered technical difficulties earlier this week, and as a result, some images will not display. To correct this, click the image to see the description page, and purge the cache." messages. -- Fullstop 23:06, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Misquoted source

PHG, I am very concerned that yesterday, in your zeal at Franco-Mongol alliance to try and make the case that the Mongols captured Jerusalem in 1299/1300, that you appear to have severely misquoted a source. I have documented my concerns at Talk:Franco-Mongol alliance#Misquoted source. Could you please participate and give your side of things? Thanks, Elonka 01:48, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Edit conflicts

PHG, I am trying to be patient here, but I am getting very tired of the edit conflicts at Franco-Mongol alliance. Based on your contribs, it would seem that you have "camped" on the article nearly 24 hours/day, and we're to the point now that when I try to make an edit, that you revert it within minutes. I realize that you feel strongly about this subject, but trying to push things to the limit of 3RR is not helpful. I would appreciate if you would back off from the article for at least a few hours, and give me some time to work on it, rather than hanging on my every tweak. --Elonka 04:36, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Dear Elonka. Just understand I just woke up, and you already reverted several of my modifications of the morning (no, I am not on this 24 hours a day, far from it :)). Please realize 99% of the content you have been adding is staying in: you can allow the remaining 1% to be modified by other users don't you think? How about some tolerance here? PHG 04:40, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

PHG, isn't this getting kind of silly? I'm trying to edit the page, and you're following along behind, reverting most of what I do. You're even reverting me when I'm trying to archive a talkpage. I've been trying to wait to try and find a time when you're not editing the page, but you seem to be camped on this thing nearly 24/7. Looking at your contribs, you're not really working on anything else, and it looks like you're barely sleeping, you're so intent on this article. Please, can you take a break for awhile, take a nap or something, and just let me edit the article? --Elonka 12:36, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Dear Elonka. I am afraid somebody is getting over-excited here... I just put forward again some of the important quotes in the article. Best regards. PHG 12:40, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

(sigh) And again, you jump in while I'm in the middle of editing.  :/ BTW, in all your research, have you ever taken a moment to at least glance at my userpage? You have my gender wrong.  ;) --Elonka 05:01, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

William of Tyre

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Personal attacks

PHG, this comment was uncalled for, where you said you were having doubts about my competence.[5] Can you please try to be more WP:CIVIL, and try to focus your arguments on the article, instead of on the editors? Thanks, Elonka 21:29, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi Elonka, I believe I am being quite civil, but understand that it takes patience to see some editors clamoring that the Principality of Antioch and the County of Tripoli were not Frank states... Best regards PHG 19:02, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Image source problem with Image:SteinMummy.jpg

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WP:FTN

This is a courtesy note to inform you that Elonka launched a complaint against you here. Perhaps you should list your arguments there, so that non-involved editors could step in and resolve your dispute. Best, --Ghirla^-трёп- 18:12, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Image:LifeAndWorksOfConfucius1687.jpg

Are you certain that Image:LifeAndWorksOfConfucius1687.jpg which you uploaded is actually from the "Life And Works Of Confucius" by Prospero Intorcetta? I think it might actually be Confucius Sinarum Philosophus ("Confucius, Philosopher of China") by Philippe Couplet. --Alivemajor 11:02, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, that's what my source says ("The Jesuits in China"). Regards. PHG 08:23, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

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Rationale given this day. PHG 08:13, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

ANI thread

As a courtesy note, I am letting you know that I started an ANI thread about you. The thread is available here: [6] --Elonka 22:03, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Please kindly note I have filed a claim for "Editorial and procedural abuses by User:Elonka" on ANI: WP:ANI#Editorial and procedural abuses by User:Elonka. Regards. PHG 18:27, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Attacks

Dear Elonka. This is so nice of you to attack me on all boards you can think of... Why don't you just stick with specifics and recognize what sources say? Balanced editing and NPOV presentation of sources should help you stay away from this kind of ridiculous arguments. Best regards. PHG 07:05, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Judging by the discussions at:

• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mongol conquests and Jerusalem
• WP:ANI#POV-pushing by User:PHG
• Talk:Franco-Mongol alliance#Request for comment
• Talk:Mongol raids into Palestine

It would seem that the vast majority of other editors are disagreeing with you. Perhaps you should rethink your own position, before this escalates further? It would be helpful for you to apologize for your actions, acknowledge community consensus, and promise to cease edit-warring and engaging in tendentious editing. But as long as you keep insisting that you are right and everyone else is wrong, I'm afraid that this is going to get worse before it gets better. --Elonka 08:28, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Dear Elonka. Number 1) is about keeping a title or not for a sub-article: no big deal, and this is very peripheral to our main subject. Number 2) is about you slandering me, and I just responded. Number 3) is an ancient discussion. Number 4) is basically the same as Number 1). So how about the central subject matter of the Franco-Mongol alliance?: you lost the vote to change the name, your vaunted 3:1 support disappeared, and it has been made obvious that you misinterpret sources to fit your storyline. Keep you attacks as long as you want, but there is no way you can deny, eliminate and corrupt reputable sources in favour of your point of view. Best regards. PHG 08:38, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

How to handle

PHG, I suggest you break down any content disputes to individual issues by article. Instead of endless wrangling with Elonka, it would be best to submit each issue to the most appropriate form for resolution. You can request mediation, WP:RFC, or whatever you like from the menu at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. I also recommend that you try to see the good in whatever Elonka may be doing. I doubt she's 100% pure evil. If you can find common ground and once in a while agree with her, you may find that this helps to avoid conflict. If these dispute resolution tactics fail, I think we should take the matter to WP:RFAR. Feel free to use my talk page. I'm going to stop adding to that very long ANI thread. - Jehochman ^Talk 14:08, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

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Hi there PHG. I was reading this article and found a number of stylistic, referencing and prose issues that I felt to below the ideal level for an FA. Since there is also a POV controversy, or allegation thereof with which I am not qualified to comment on, I felt it might good to try and clear the slate once and for all. This would save having to review the style and prose at a second time. Regards, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 09:01, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

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Your AN/I Thread

Has been moved to the bottom, where new threads are supposed to go. Please do not re-add it to the top. -Chunky Rice 19:25, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:AmyntasCoin.jpg

I've moved this here. Now there are problems for copyright.

May you help in keeping in it?

--Carlo Morino aka zi' Carlo 10:22, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

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Barnstar

		Armenian Barnstar of National Merit
		I, Eupator, hereby award you this Barnstar of National Merit for all the work you have done to improve the coverage of Cilician Armenia on Wikipedia and the creation as well as maintenance of the Franco-Mongol alliance article. Keep up the great work!
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The Franco-Mongol alliance article is truly fascinating. I always wondered when will something such as that be finally created here as it's such an important topic. Btw I had added the Delaborde painting in color to Gosdantin III of Armenia because he was the reigning King in 1347 but you added it to Gosdantin II of Armenia? Is the English title of the painting "Knights of the Order of St. John of Jerusalem Restoring Religion in Armenia in 1347" incorrect?-- Ευπάτωρ ^Talk!! 17:10, 14 October 2007 (UTC)