User talk:Redrose64

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Invasion of Time edits

Moved to Talk:The Invasion of Time § Variant theme music

The link you asked for

Sorry I'm bad at using wikipedia and messed up adding the cite, I asked Northern the other day about Bolton's Platform 2 and they replied to me https://twitter.com/northernrailorg/status/291975325221535745?uid=17412258&iid=am-34365388813588638626255904&nid=56+427

Reading

Moved to m:Talk:Meetup/Reading/4#Shall we continue?

Seasons Greeting to you and yours

MarnetteD | Talk is wishing you Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Xmas, Eid, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!

Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:WereSpielChequers/Dec11}} to your friends' talk pages.

To you

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The Monk

I was sitting with a high steward, discussing Anglo-Saxon monks. The name we couldn't remember was Nennius. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 04:39, 22 April 2014 (UTC).

Enjoy!

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Happy New Year!

Dear Redrose64,
HAPPY NEW YEAR Hoping 2015 will be a great year for you! Thank you for your contributions!
From a fellow editor,
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Template talk:WikiProject Biography

Hi Redrose64, quick message. On Template talk:WikiProject Biography, I removed the category not because I had been lazy and just not fixed the issue, I just hadn't realised that it might have been there because someone had posted a link to it in the talk. I had assumed it was just a one-time problem with the actual template itself at the top of the talk page, and so I could fix that by removing the category. I used hot cat, so didn't actually see what I had deleted. I should have checked changes before pressing to save my edit. I apologise, I just wanted to clear any misunderstanding. Thanks, SamWilson989 (talk)

Sailing from Holyhead?

Where can you sail to by Stena Line? — Preceding unsigned comment added by IkbenFrank (talk • contribs) 20:08, 27 April 2015

Season's Greetings

	Wishing you a Charlie Brown Charlie Russell Christmas! 🎄
	Best wishes for your Christmas Is all you get from me 'Cause I ain't no Santa Claus Don't own no Christmas tree. But if wishes was health and money I'd fill your buck-skin poke Your doctor would go hungry An' you never would be broke. —C.M. Russell, Christmas greeting 1914. Montanabw(talk)

VarunFEB2003 and template signatures.

WP:Help desk#Sign issue

Virgin Trains has gone

Redrose, have you heard that Virgin Trains has gone? Eastmidlandsrailwayfan (talk) 09:19, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

Yes. It happened just under ten hours ago. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 09:46, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

And they maintained their reputation to the end; the last London–Manchester train under the Virgin name broke down at Stockport and left the passengers to get buses into Manchester. (Towards the end you'd only have known the company still existed from squinting closely at the TOC name on the departure boards—the last of the Virgin branding had long since disappeared.) ‑ Iridescent 2 10:10, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

How do I become a Wikipedia administrator?

I may need help to become a Wikipedia administrator, can you help me, please? Eastmidlandsrailwayfan (talk) 09:21, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

@Eastmidlandsrailwayfan: I have replied on this matter at Wikipedia talk:Blocking policy#Semi-protected edit request on 8 December 2019. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 09:45, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

Out of curiosity, is there any reason Eastmidlandsrailwayfan hasn't been blocked as sock yet?! :D ——SN54129 10:30, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

Because Redrose and I take AGF to the extreme and assume that until a CU says otherwise he's not a User:Mr Fenton's Helicopters sock. Commons:Special:Contributions/Eastmidlandsrailwayfan makes AGF an increasingly difficult position to maintain. ‑ Iridescent 10:36, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

Just so  :) I agree re. AGF, and I'd generally apply it the first time someone socks—after all, I don't think we explicitly tell people they can't create another account when they are blocked do we? I mean, it's something that gets found out the hardway. <---might be wrong on this; I'd probably have to get blocked again to find out.

But when it's their eighth sock—! ——SN54129 10:42, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

I was pretty sure, but was waiting for more WP:ROPE. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 10:55, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

This is so obvious it's unreal. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:02, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

So he creates the account at 15:47, templates himself as a sock five minutes later...and is blocked the following minute?! Must've been bored... ——SN54129 19:36, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

dab on Template:Northern (train operating company) route 9

As I've got disambiguations wrong for stations in the past can I ask for your help? On Template:Northern (train operating company) route 9 there is a link to Mill Hill railway station. I think this should be Mill Hill railway station (Lancashire). When I look at Template:Stnlnk I see an example [[Bramley railway station (Hampshire)|Bramley]] but when I use this format there seems to be a stray comma - help appreciated.— Rod ^talk 20:47, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

I think I've fixed it by removing the brackets around "Lancashire" but its hardly intuitive.— Rod ^talk 20:57, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

It says

{{stnlnk|Bramley|Hampshire}} expands to [[Bramley railway station (Hampshire)|Bramley]].

Therefore,

{{stnlnk|Mill Hill|Lancashire}} expands to [[Mill Hill railway station (Lancashire)|Mill Hill]].

and if you follow this link: Mill Hill you will find that it goes to the right place. I don't see anything on the template doc that implies that brackets should be used. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:58, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

New question

Hello R. Module:Protected edit request/sandbox has shown up in the cat. I am wondering if it has anything to do with this edit. From what I can find that is the only transclusion with recent activity. Of course it could be something else that I missed. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 19:31, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

It may have been this edit by Fish and karate (talk · contribs) - do any other module doc pages have a {{pp}} template? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:55, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

You found it R. I added the noinclude tags and that took care of things. I just hadn't seen anything quite like the edit I found. As ever thanks for checking on things. MarnetteD|Talk 21:59, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

I have gotten all manner of confused on how to get the Janet Jackson article out of the cat R. Your help will be appreciated. MarnetteD|Talk 12:06, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

It's the {{pp-move-indef}} right at the top. MelanieN (talk · contribs) reduced the level of move protection from full to semi yesterday, without removing the template. Either the full move prot should be restored, or the template removed. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:57, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for untangling this for me R. MarnetteD|Talk 05:35, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Sticky fingers

Re this edit, that must have been a simple misclick on my part. I have never knowingly imported a short description from Wikidata, which I don't trust. I have the Shortdesc helper installed in order to detect vandalized short descriptions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:55, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

Cheers

Damon Runyon's short story "Dancing Dan's Christmas" is a fun read if you have the time. Right from the start it extols the virtues of the hot Tom and Jerry This hot Tom and Jerry is an old-time drink that is once used by one and all in this country to celebrate Christmas with, and in fact it is once so popular that many people think Christmas is invented only to furnish an excuse for hot Tom and Jerry, although of course this is by no means true. No matter what concoction is your favorite to imbibe during this festive season I would like to toast you with it and to thank you for all your work here at the 'pedia this past year. Best wishes for your 2020 as well R. MarnetteD|Talk 03:38, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Season's Greetings

		Season's Greetings
		Wishing you a Happy Holiday Season, and all best wishes for the New Year! Mystical Nativity (Filippo Lippi) is my Wiki-Christmas card to all for this year. Johnbod (talk) 16:39, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Cheers

Merry Christmas, Redrose64! Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice! As the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Wikipedia. May this Holiday Season bring you nothing but joy, health and prosperity. Onel5969 TT me 19:05, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Train reporting number

On this page, I fixed the spelling of Birmingham. The addition of </li> was just an incidental edit for syntax highlighting reasons. Leaving unclosed html tags means the whole edit window becomes highlighted. I don't think closing the tags changes the visual output. kennethaw88 • talk 22:15, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

A Joyous Yuletide to you!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2020!

Hello Redrose64, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2020. Happy editing, JACKINTHEBOX • TALK 08:33, 23 December 2019 (UTC) Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

seasons Greetings

	seasons Greetings
	Merry Christmas Redrose64 and to others in Oxford. See you soon. Thank you for everything. Whispyhistory (talk) 18:57, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi! Thank you for being kind enough to mention me about the easier ways to formatting tags in articles. I have to say, you have a nice user page! Regards from Chile, from an es.wiki editor! --Rjelves (talk) 14:46, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Technical Barnstar
	For fixing someones greeting mess across various talkpages,Good to know it's not me causing mayhem with a messed up template this year! *cough* unlike last year *cough*, Anyway just wanted to says thanks for fixing that!, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 00:25, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

Oh, it happens every year. It's usually different people, and different errors - the commonest are unclosed tables or unclosed divs. Often it's from a WP:SUBSTituted template or user subpage, and if I can identify that, I fix it to try and prevent further occurrences. This year I have found misclosed markup in the messages from 7&6=thirteen (talk · contribs) and Buster7 (talk · contribs) - this second one being well over 100 instances of a missing </center> tag going back to 11 December. I'll see if I can fix those tomorrow. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 00:41, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

Season's Greetings

Hello there! Shearonink (talk) wishes you & yours the very best of the season!

Whether you celebrate Christmas, Diwali, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa,
Festivus (for the rest of us!) or even the Saturnalia,
here's to
hoping your holiday time is wonderful
and that the New Year will be an improvement upon the old.
CHEERS!

Share these holiday wishes by adding {{subst:User:Shearonink/Holiday}} ~~~~ to your friends' talk pages.

display-authors

BTW, this edit with |display-authors= does not display 'et al'. If that was your intention, then either the value of display-authors must be less than the total authors in the template (i.e., removing at least one author from display), or you must set |display-authors=et al. --Izno (talk) 18:38, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

@Izno: I don't want it to display "et al", I want it to display all nine of the authors that the book actually has, giving credit where credit is due. At the time that I built the template, {{cite book}} would throw an error if exactly nine authors were specified but |displayauthors= was blank or absent. I guess Trappist the monk (talk · contribs) must have changed the code again: it's impenetrable. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 00:01, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

The code was indeed changed because you can now add as many authors as you please. The warning at 9 previously was due to a template limitation pre-Lua. --Izno (talk) 00:11, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Further to what Editor Izno wrote, handling of unlimited numbers of names in author and other name-lists is indeed old (in April 2015, this edit added support for |display-authors=etal – I'm ok taking the blame for that. Unlimited name-list support was implemented before that and in fact, was not done by me. If you find the Lua impenetrable, the template doc might be more accessible. Of course, editors do complain that cs1|2 documentation is also incomprehensible ... The documentation changed with this edit to remove mention of the limitations imposed by {{citation/core}}. So, nothing new here.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 00:39, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Thank you and season's greetings

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Thank you for fixing a message on my talk page. Merry Christmas and happy new year.
↠Pine (✉) 02:57, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Thank you!

Your wealth of knowledge about computers and code is amazing. The extent of what I know is quite simply to not use "beef stew" as a password - it's not stroganoff. 😊 ^Atsme _Talk 📧 00:46, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Apart from finding a website in the first place, logging in is pretty much up there with the fundamentals. Always use a strong password, never give out clues as to what it might be. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 09:22, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

My password is "password". It's brilliant! Nobody will ever guess. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:23, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

South Ruislip - West Ealing - High Wycombe parliamentary train

Hello there, I notice you keep reverting my edits for the stations above. I try to make it so that people know that the train goes from West Ealing to High Wycombe - however in the edit you recently reverted it only shows as the terminus of the first part from South Ruislip - however there is no mention of the latter section to High Wycombe - except on the High Wycombe page, which is no use. Please let me know what I am doing wrong... IamMattDavies (talk) 14:52, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Routeboxes show the stations on either side. If you look at a map and follow the line from West Ealing, you pass through South Ruislip to get to High Wycombe. Whichever way you look at it, West Ealing is in no way part way along the line - it is the terminus. It is only an intermediate station for those few trains that still run between Paddington and Greenford, and also for local trains running between Paddington and Hayes & Harlington (or points west).

A kitten for you!

Happy new year

Whispyhistory (talk) 00:39, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Unexpected problem

I moved the List of rail accidents (2010–present) to List of rail accidents (2010–2019) per prior consensus at the talk page. This has had the effect of altering the ToC called by {{lists of rail accidents years}} from 2010s to 2020s! Any idea why this happened and how to fix it? Mjroots (talk) 06:18, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

This should fix it. -Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:24, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Sutton Park Line

Hi Redrose64

You recently made an unnecessary revert on the Sutton Park Line to passengers services reintroduced in future. Now you've accused me of an "unsourced opinion/speculation". I did link Aldridge station page as a reference to my opinion. So can you please explain how this is unsourced speculation? https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/black-country/huge-step-new-aldridge-railway-17479108 and it mentions that the station is a step forward to reopening the station and line to passengers. So unless the documents are fake... this article is completely compulsory with the line in general as Aldridge is on the line.

Signed: JoshuaistheFalco, 07:04, 4th January 2020 JoshuaIsTheFalco (talk) 07:04, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

On the matter of sourcing, see the policy on verifiability; links to other Wikipedia articles do not count as sources for the purposes of satisfying this policy. On the matter of speculation, remember that Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, advice to which you have been directed many times in the past.

You link an article from the Birmingham Mail above. Let me quote you some phrases and sentences:

• £10m funding is needed to take the proposal to the next stage - so there's no funding, which means that the proposal might not happen
• It is hoped - this is pure wishful thinking, a very long way from a certainty
• A new feasibility survey - feasibility surveys are no more than somebody sitting at a desk and doing some calculations. Every major project should begin with one, but that in no way means that further progress will occur.
• deemed the project viable - still doesn't mean that it will happen. Money has to be found first.
• ordered the organisation to draw up a business case - a business case is the next step, but it's not happened. And there is still no money.

Finally: if you have reliable sources, then cite them when you add the material to the article, don't make other people search. I should remind you that you have been blocked in the past for persistently failing to adhere to this advice. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 09:30, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Okay so revert the edit Aldridge station page then Aldridge railway station. As for your crystal ball nonsense. I'm not the only one who has done it before. So dont attack me for using a page which has Mainline67 or along that wording making a so called fake statement... thank you kindly and have a nice day

Signed: Joshuaisthefalco, 10:22, 4 January 2020 JoshuaIsTheFalco (talk) 10:22, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Of course you're not the first person to use Wikipedia to speculate upon what might happen. It is because of such predictions that we created the guideline in the first place: we don't make rules just because we want to - we make rules when there is a demonstrable problem that indicates a need for rules. Just because someone has done something before does not make it OK for you to do the same thing. See also WP:OTHERCONTENT. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:31, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Reverting edits

Hi can you assist me, I'm having a "reverting war" on Uldale amd Ireby, Cumbria how do I take this to the next level?

Devokewater (talk) 17:44, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

First, read WP:EW. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:20, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Translating a non-English article

Hi..I can't remember how to do this. Whispyhistory (talk) 18:01, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

The content translation tool. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:03, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Okay...it was for fr:Achille Cléophas Flaubert. I'll read the link you sent and will see if I can understand it. Thank you. Otherwise...can I just rewrite it in English? Whispyhistory (talk) 18:07, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Meon Valley Railway

Could you please cite your source for correcting my entry for the closure of Farringdon Goods from 5th August 1968 to 13th August 1968? I have 3 separate published books which all state the earlier date. Thanks Ultratorque (talk) 17:22, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

You changed several dates in contravention of MOS:DATE. You also filed to provide a source for your changes, see WP:BURDEN. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 17:41, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Estonian translation of FAQ

See et:KKK and et:Korduma kippuvad küsimused. This is re: your recent reversion of my edit to KKK (disambiguation). Heepman1997 (talk) 12:14, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Your edit linked the page Estonian language. There is no mention of the acronym "KKK" on that page, it therefore goes against MOS:DABENTRY (fifth bullet). Further, this is the English Wikipedia: we do not give translations of English terms into foreign languages. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:08, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you and your work on Wikipedia:SVG help !

	The Technical Helper Barnstar
	For your fast and good technical answers on Wikipedia:SVG help, Thanks,  — Johannes Kalliauer - contrib. 22:05, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

I sometimes take a opposing position on Wikipedia:SVG_help to show another viewpoint. I hope its ok for you, It's not against you. I sometimes have a different experience, since I cannot create SVG by hands, and I mainly use tools to repair images. I think I know most SVG-rendering-bugs mentioned on phab:. Since I'm not so much on the en.wikipedia, if you think I might can add something usefull, you could ping me.  — Johannes Kalliauer - contrib. 22:05, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:40, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

non-displaying control characters

How did I add them? How can you see them? Rathfelder (talk) 08:58, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

This was your edit. Notice that the word "Manchester" is highlighted as a change, even though the letters making up the word are the same. This in itself is a red flag - so I copied your text and pasted it into this utility, which revealed a Unicode U+200E character, also known as left-to-right mark (LRM). These should not be present in category links. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:28, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. I do hundreds of edits like this. I cant think that I did anything different here. I use Hotcat mostly. Any advice about how I can avoid doing it again? Rathfelder (talk) 15:17, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Are you copypasting the category name from somewhere? I think that there is at least one major browser which adds an unwanted LRM to the end of copypasted text. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:10, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

I use Opera, exclusively, and yes I generally copypaste the names. If I had done this often would someone have noticed? Rathfelder (talk) 22:31, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

After pasting the text, press ← Backspace once - you will probably find that the cursor doesn't move. This means that you have erased the unwanted LRM. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:54, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

• I'll try to remember. Thank you very much. Rathfelder (talk) 22:06, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

RFC Talk Hunter Biden

Thanks for pointing out, is the updated rfc entry ok? RonaldDuncan (talk) 17:49, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

No, it's not, because it's made a complete mess of Requests for comment/Politics, government, and law. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:45, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Redrose, I understand the template created a confusing entry on that project page. The best solution, in my opinion, would be for an uninvolved editor such as yourself to close and/or archive this disruptive "RfC" to add BLP violations and off-topic coatrack Original Research to Biden's article. SPECIFICO talk 22:48, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Sorry about the mess. It did look ok https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Politics,_government,_and_law&oldid=935779632 but then SPECIFICO put a hat template on the talk page to hide the discussion on it and then it was the mess that you saw.RonaldDuncan (talk) 11:54, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

3rd time lucky :) I have put in the rfc again. It was ok the last time https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Politics,_government,_and_law&oldid=935779632 apart from the hat template being put on whilst in the midst of the process. I have requested on the talk page that other editors do not hat the discussion whilst the rfc is in progress. RonaldDuncan (talk) 14:21, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

It looks fine - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Politics,_government,_and_law&oldid=935913942 - hopefully we will not have any post submission edits this time. RonaldDuncan (talk) 15:36, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Usage figures

I just noticed that a user has not been keeping the railway station figures at five for a lot of Scottish railway stations. Pkbwcgs (talk) 21:48, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

There are several culprits. I've been fixing them as I find them, and it's difficult because my watchlist has maxed out at the most recent 1,000 edits. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:44, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

WP:INDENTGAP

Sorry about the WP:INDENTGAP problem. Sometimes when editing discussions, reading the text in the editor, it is hard to follow the discussion. That is, where one comment ends and the next begins. If I understand WP:INDENTGAP, I should put the appropriate number of : on lines between comments from different users? Thanks, Gah4 (talk) 02:33, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

You can either close up the gap by removing the blank line (as I did), or add exactly the same number of colons at the start of the otherwise-blank line (as RexxS normally does). Which of the two that you do doesn't really matter: the point about INDENTGAP is that between two indented lines you must not leave lines that are wholly blank, because that causes one list to be closed and a new one to be started. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 10:08, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

@Gah4: Redrose64 is quite right. I habitually put an indented blank line before my comment as it makes it easier for me to distinguish my post from the previous one in the edit window. Of course, you can see that in the published text, the spacing between these posts is identical, so it doesn't affect anything beyond the edit window. HTH --RexxS (talk) 16:45, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

A Dobos torte for you!

7&6=thirteen (☎) has given you a Dobos torte to enjoy! Seven layers of fun because you deserve it. To give a Dobos torte and spread the WikiLove, just place {{subst:Dobos Torte}} on someone else's talkpage, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

You know how to ping me. Cheers. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:16, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Yep. For my TPSs, it goes like this: Thank you, 7&6=thirteen. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:29, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

West Somerset Mineral Railway

Either way works. Its a common referencing error I encounter a lot. Just seem easier (and faster) my way. I'm aware of all the ways to fix that particular problem with that template. Thanks, I guess. Isaidnoway (talk) 21:31, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Strange parameter in railway station infobox

Hi. I just removed a parameter called "1" from the article Shoeburyness railway station. Do you know what is the purpose of this parameter? The parameter was blank. Pkbwcgs (talk) 22:59, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

User:Cyberbot II added this strange parameter in this edit from September 2015 but I don't understand why. Would the bot operator, User:Cyberpower678 be able to explain. Pkbwcgs (talk) 23:03, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

The same happened in Ynyswen railway station but the parameter is called "2". I still don't understand why the bot added all these pointless parameter in September 2015. Pkbwcgs (talk) 23:14, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

The pages immediately prior to the bot edits had this

{{Infobox GB station|
 | name = Shoeburyness

and this

{{Infobox UK station
|symbol=rail|
|name=Ynyswen

respectively. That is, each had an empty positional parameter which the bot was attempting to resolve. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:26, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Should I remove these empty positional parameters from the railway station articles? Pkbwcgs (talk) 12:11, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

You can if you want. They're harmless to leave. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:25, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Class 305

Hi Red Please can you take a look at this page for me. I am not sure all the references on the page are showing and am not sure how to add a Harvard reference of my own. I added my source book - Anglia East by Ian Cowley - but cannot work out how to link the information I added about 1980s departmental deployment in East Anglia to the reference. Thanks--Davidvaughanwells (talk) 11:13, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

See WP:CITESHORT. You can use either <ref>{{harvnb|Cowley|1987|p=(pagenumbers)}}</ref> or {{sfn|Cowley|1987|p=(pagenumbers)}} replacing (pagenumbers) with the actual page numbers where you found the material. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:30, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks--Davidvaughanwells (talk) 14:50, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Response to your edit summary here

Hi Redrose64,

Sorry about that. I hadn't realized there was a parameter in the Template:Initiated to mark the request as "done." Thank you and I've noted that for the future! :)

Many thanks,
Doug Mehus T·C 23:30, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

It's in the editnotice, displayed when you edit the page. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:32, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Redrose64, Thank you Oops, sorry, I hadn't noticed that. I will try and make a more concerted effort to notice the editnotices. I'm familiar with the BLP and 1RR editnotices that, I think, sometimes they tend to go unnoticed. I'll work on that, though. Doug Mehus T·C 23:34, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

This edit does nothing, because {{initiated}} doesn't recognise a |nac= parameter. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:58, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Redrose64, Oh, the drop-down box at the top of that page shows that there's still a "nac" parameter. That's why I did that. Maybe we need to update the collapsed information from that page, and also Template:Initiated? Doug Mehus T·C 19:51, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Redrose64, By the way, have you ever thought of running of running for Bureaucrat? You are both neutral in your editor interactions and you do a lot of wikignoming and clerking around the noticeboards. You've got the technical aptitude, and I would be happy to co-nominate for you for Bureaucrat, if you ever decide you want the added responsibility. Doug Mehus T·C 19:53, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

I've removed the invalid params from the editnotice. What update to Template:Initiated is necessary? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:15, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Redrose64, Thank you. Nevermind, on second look, you're right, it was just the editnotice. Doug Mehus T·C 20:47, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

RfC subsection

Hi, the RfC is not related to that section. It is not a follow-on. The section that is related to is Lack of neutrality not that request to edit the protected page. I thought it was a typo and fixed it.--SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 10:10, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Then the RfC should have been made a subsection of the discussion to which it directly relates, and not dumped randomly at the bottom of the page. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:44, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Why not fix it then?

Hi RR64, Rather than just reverting my valid edit why not fix the info box? CrossHouses (talk) 14:42, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Which infobox? Please provide a diff. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:23, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

West Highland Line‽ CrossHouses (talk) 22:52, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

@CrossHouses: I have made exactly one edit to the infobox of that article, and not only was it not a revert, it was more than a year ago. Please explain why you think that making the image larger than 300px wide would be beneficial, bearing WP:IMGSIZE#Infobox and lead images in mind. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:24, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi RR64 clearly you don’t remember your edit of 6 days ago? CrossHouses (talk) 21:08, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Special:Diff/937326341 CrossHouses (talk) 21:08, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

I have made so many edits (over 213,000 at the last count) that I don't remember them all; so that is why I asked for a diff. Anyway, the diff that you finally provided shows that the edit concerned did not involve an infobox, it is a table; and you made such a mess of it that I couldn't work out what you were trying to do, so a reversion was the cleanest action. You should preview all your edits before saving, it helps to pick up problems like those. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:36, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Railway Help

Hi there I am new to Wikipedia and want to upload a few photos I had taken of some closed railway stations. The uploader for photos keeps failing when I try to upload to the wiki page. How can I fix it as I've made my tenth. Kind regards. JoshuaGuest96 (talk) 10:37, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

@JoshuaGuest96: If you are trying to upload to Wikipedia itself, try our Wikipedia:Help desk; but if you are trying to upload to commons:, try c:Commons:Help desk. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:41, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you RedRose64 JoshuaGuest96 (talk) 21:15, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Seven years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:44, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

I am not aware of changing anyone else's posts, and if I did so, it was an accident.

I am not aware of changing anyone else's posts, and if I did so, it was an accident. It appears that the change you pointed to was the erasure of the end of a date at the end of a previous post. That might have been a glitch of some sort, but could not possibly be a meaningful or malicious change. I remember looking at a potential post I was making, and realizing I needed to go back to add a colon to indent my own reply properly, so I'm guessing that in adding the colon, a few characters got erased in the process, if it was indeed due to me. Perhaps my cursor jumped unasked? It does that. At any rate, thank you for repairing any unmeant damage. WordwizardW (talk) 21:56, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

@WordwizardW: This was your edit; notice that the last portion of the timestamp, the characters "uary 2020 (UTC)" have been removed. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:00, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

I repeat, I was unaware of doing that. There could be no point in doing that on purpose. Thank you for fixing it. WordwizardW (talk) 22:34, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for closing the regen power pty ltd AfD last week - much appreciated. Bookscale (talk) 01:16, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Your reverts on Morfa Mawddach railway station

Moved to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways § Morfa Mawddach railway station

--Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:43, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

question re wikiproject

hi. If I have some general questions about helping or participating at Wikipedia:WikiProject Editor Retention, whom could I contact? would that be yourself? I appreciate it. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 17:44, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Editor Retention would be a good place to start. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:05, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

... and I see that you have asked there. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:06, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

I don't know why I have been picked out, my name is not in Wikipedia:WikiProject Editor Retention/Members. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:20, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Removal of my posts

Hi RedRose64

You recently reverted three edits I made and accused me of wishful thinking. I would like to correct you on that the source was from ITVNEWS. It has been further confirmed by Andy Street. What passes as evidence to stop you making these unnecessary reverts? And also if I cant say a long term aspiration then what wording? It is hoped? It is possible?. Seems you unesscasary you reverted the edits given there pages with similar wording like the Peak Rail and Sutton Park Line pages. JoshuaGuest96 (talk) 11:06, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

Are you and TarzanBoy24 (talk · contribs) (formerly named JoshuaIsTheFalco} the same person? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:22, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

And within minutes, my case was proven. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:10, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

Permit to travel

Hello, Can I ask why the external link is 'not necessary'?

If you haven't visited this website, I'm not really certain why it MUST be deleted.

I would imagine that, as the page cites no sources, it would be worthwhile to at least have some form of link?

IamMattDavies (talk) 17:02, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

@IamMattDavies: It's covered by WP:ELNO#EL11. But what makes you think that I didn't visit the website? Does it have some form of tracking, which would itself be a breach of WP:ELNO#EL3.

Besides which, each time you attempted to add the link, you damaged something else. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:18, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Requests for closure noticeboard: procedure

Hi, do you happen to know: in Requests for closure noticeboard, for a request about a page that has been archived, should the closer do anything special to mark the close? E.g. put a note on the archived page and a new thread on the current talk page, with the same heading? Peter Gulutzan (talk) 16:58, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Archived threads are de facto closed by the archiving process. If it was a thread that required some kind of formal decision, it really shouldn't have been left untouched for so long that the archiving bot swooped in. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 08:30, 17 February 2020 (UTC)