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Please review https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toy 37.225.76.109 (talk) 12:59, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse! Can you please explain what you mean? — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 13:36, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Toy is an existing B-class article which you have not edited. What, specifically, did you have in mind? David notMD (talk) 14:14, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

@David notMD: Correction, Toy is C-class. --The Tips of Apmh 14:18, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

C-class for Core, B-class for WikiProject Toys David notMD (talk) 14:23, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

I submitted a request at Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests for someone to review the article and remove the {{tone}} tag. GoingBatty (talk) 14:25, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Oh, nevermind, you're right. --The Tips of Apmh 14:00, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

I hoped someone would notice and remove tank as a toy example, especially given current world situation. 37.225.76.109 (talk) 19:06, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Right,
1. Could you perhaps have said that in your opening question? Being clear is important
2. Wikipedia is not censored. Toy tanks exist. They are notable. Notability is not temporary. There is no reason to remove them from the Toy article that fits with Wikipedia's current guidelines. casualdejekyll 22:34, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

We did not have toy guns in the house. I came home one day to find my daughter and friends running around the yard with Barbie dolls bent at the waist so that they were holding the torso and 'shooting' each other with the legs. David notMD (talk) 15:13, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Sounds like buying your daughter some toy guns is in order. (Not that I'm commenting on your parenting or anything, for all I know this story probably happened years and years ago) casualdejekyll 17:40, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Heck, we used random sticks - or even our fingers - as guns. The original poster's request to remove the image of the toy tank is as ridiculous as a request to remove the picture of teddy bears because people have been mauled by bears. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 18:32, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Tanks have no legitimate uses. 37.225.76.109 (talk) 11:49, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

One more time everyone: Wikipedia is not censored! casualdejekyll 23:20, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

• The tank toy is perfectly legitimate as an encyclopeadic entry in a toy article. I've removed the tone article as it is radically out of date and there was some 500 edits since them. I read about half of it and don't see any tone issues. It probably does need a copyedit. I didn't see anything in the history to say it was copyedited. Certainly it can take a couple of months or more to do the work. Perhaps you never left the tag on long enough for the guild to action it. What the article does need and perhaps you do this, is more sources. There is whole bits and sections which are unsourced. Hope that helps. scope_creep^Talk 10:54, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Question about Wikipedia words in Google searches

Hello, I noticed that when I search for a page like Principia College in Google, on the right of the screen part of the first paragraph from Wikipedia will show up on Google search results. If the current first paragraph has been updated, is there a way to reset the cache or something like that, so the current version of the Wikipedia page shows up on Google searches? Thanks Archivingperson (talk) 04:44, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello. Changes made on Wikipedia are not immediately reflected on Google. Google will take its own specfic time to carry them out. Kpddg ^{(talk • contribs)} 05:02, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Archivingperson. To elaborate a bit on the above, the content of and images in a Google Knowledge Graph is 100% the responsibility of Google and zero percent the responsibility of Wikipedia. Wikipedia freely licences its content for re-use and other websites can re-use our content as they see fit, as long as they attribute the content to the Wikipedia editors who created it. If you have complaints, take them to Google. Improving a Wikipedia article often (but not always) results in an improvement of the knowledge graph. But again, that is Google's responsibility, not ours. Cullen328 (talk) 06:23, 11 March 2022 (UTC)4

Thank you all for your answers, appreciate it! Archivingperson (talk) 16:27, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Blockquote Error

Hi, has anyone experienced this type of error where you try to blockquote but when you publish it, it looks like it does not have a blockquote. Can someone please help me?

Meiwuzhang (talk) 04:55, 11 March 2022 (UTC)Meiwuzhang

@Meiwuzhang: Are you referring to the <blockquote>...</blockquote> tags you're using on Draft:Open: A Boy's Wayang Adventure? The draft looks like it has a pair of blockquotes to me. Have you tried a null edit and purging your browser cache? If that doesn't work, could you please elaborate on what are you seeing, and what are you expecting? GoingBatty (talk) 06:56, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Song of Lawino, Poem by Okot p'Bitek

I would like to add the following two references to the Wikipedia article entitled "Song of Lawino' Please tell me how. Donna Pido

Pido, Donna. “Lawino is Alive and Well” Jahazi, Nairobi, October, 2007. pp 44-46 Pido, Odoch. “Is Lawino Dead?” Jahazi, Nairobi, October 2007. pp 38-43 154.70.26.12 (talk) 06:30, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse! See WP:EASYREFBEGIN, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 06:57, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Pripyat display error

The infobox for the Pripyat article is broken on mobile, appearing as normal text instead of an infobox. It appears fine on PC. I don’t have enough wiki knowledge to know what the issue is so I would like to bring this to the attention of someone more experienced who can hopefully do a quick fix. Thanks 72.86.45.194 (talk) 07:12, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

It looks normal to me, using Android and Chrome. Have you tried reloading the page? Maproom (talk) 08:26, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for reporting this issue! It looks okay to me, but if it's still displaying weirdly for you, let us know, and perhaps someone else will be able to replicate the issue. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 08:29, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Reads like an advertisement? how to fix it

I have submitted my article for review twice. First time it was declined on the basis of insufficient notability, second time around there was additional reads like an advertisement warning. I don't know what to do anymore. I'm at my wits end. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Most_Money_(Digital_wallet) here's the link for the draft. Any, pointers? Bsquizer (talk) 07:57, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@Bsquizer, these are two separate issues. Let's consider notability first. You need to provide references that demonstrate that it passes the corportation notability standard. The current ones don't look very good to me—this is just an ad, without any author or indication it was published under news.mn's editorial process. It makes me distrust that news.mn as a source. This is an interview, which likely doesn't count. This is too short to count as significant coverage. And this isn't independent secondary coverage. So you have zero qualifying sources, when you need two at bare minimum.

On advertisement, the article isn't too bad imo. So focus on getting coverage. What's Mongolia's paper of record? Have they published reported profiles of the company or similar? If so, add those. If there's nothing like that, then this topic isn't ready for a page yet, and no amount of editing can change that. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 08:40, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@Sdkb Thank you for the input. Bsquizer (talk) 09:45, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

How to insert straight quotation marks in math formulas?

I'm working on replacing some low-quality images of formulas in applicative universal grammar (example) with wiki markup. However, the MathML renderer doesn't seem to want to straight double quotes. Help:Displaying a formula doesn't say anything about quotation marks. I've tried the following methods, but they all give me a syntax error:

• \"
• putting " inside \normaltext{} instead of \text{}
• \char13
• \textquotedbl
• \textquotesingle \textquotesingle

Using two single quotes sort of works, but they appear as closing quotes and makes the output kind of ugly:

${\dfrac {\text{''my'' :: OTT ''friend'' :: T}}{\text{p q :: y}}}$

{{math}} displays double quotes just fine, but the output isn't as good as the MathML renderer because some of the text touches the vinculum:

"my" :: OTT   "friend" :: T/p q :: y

Anyone know what I'm doing wrong? Ixfd64 (talk) 08:05, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@Ixfd64, hmm, that's rather above my pay grade haha, but Help talk:Displaying a formula has 260 watchers, so I'd try asking there and see if anyone knows how to help. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 08:41, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

I posted a question there a while ago but never got a response. But I'll cross-post this there just in case. Ixfd64 (talk) 18:20, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Need your help to write a Wikipedia page.

I need your help in writing an article for a company and wanted to how to write an article for Wikipedia page. 2409:4040:D83:29DA:0:0:4D48:F201 (talk) 08:21, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello IP. See Help:Your first article for how to write an article. When writing an article for a company you work for, you are a paid editor and are responsible for abiding by the relevant guidance. Please note that companies that do not meet the relevant notability guideline cannot have articles. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 08:24, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Work on collecting references first. If there are not reliable source references independent of the company, i.e., not the company publishing content about itself, then your project has no chance of success. David notMD (talk) 11:56, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

My page is not publishing

Graduate Engineering Students Welfare Association Ce1205600022 (talk) 08:25, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@Ce1205600022, I take it you're referring to Draft:Graduate Engineering Students Welfare Association Uttar Pradesh. That draft is very far from being acceptable. It contains no sources at all. Is this a topic that's been covered in the media that's notable for an encyclopedia? If not, it shouldn't be an article. If yes, please read through Help:Your first article and follow the advice there. Once you've done that, add {{subst:Submit}} to the top of the draft and a reviewer will come by in due time. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 08:44, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

I fixed stuff, but right now, the only ref is the assoociation's website. Are there newspapers or e-news sites independent of GESWA that have written about it? If not, there is no potential for this to be an article. David notMD (talk) 12:04, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

The draft was deleted by an Administrator as being promotional. The main reason was that the only ref was that of the organization, so the draft was in effect what the organization was saying about itself. David notMD (talk) 13:27, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Photograph of a Victorian Artist

I would like to upload this. It is of a painter who died in 1853. It is possibly from a from a magazine that no longer exists. Would this be available as Free Use? BFP1 (talk) 13:17, 11 March 2022 (UTC) BFP1 (talk) 13:41, 11 March 2022 (UTC) BFP1 (talk) 13:41, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@BFP1 Welcome to the Teahouse. For a magazine that old, you'd have no problem uploading it to Commons as its copyright will have expired long ago. Nick Moyes (talk) 14:14, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

The photo is old but what if the magazine folded say 20y ago? BFP1 (talk) 14:49, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

The relevant date is the date that issue was published. If that was before 1923, you can upload it. If after, it's complicated. Maproom (talk) 17:41, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@BFP1: Hi there! You could ask at c:Commons:Village pump/Copyright, and provide all the information you have about the image. Good luck! GoingBatty (talk) 01:22, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

can i have some tea?

 695LM (talk) 13:56, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@695LM Welcome back to the Teahouse. I've sent you some tea and some helpful links for getting started on your talk page. Pop back when you next need help or advice on editing Wikipedia. Nick Moyes (talk) 14:12, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Should I just move this section?

I am writing my MA dissertation about publications by art galleries and similar institutions. I would like to start helping to improve Wikipedia, and thought I would start with the exhibition catalogue page. It doesn't seem to have any references, and in my opinion could do with a bit of a re-write in general.

One problem is that the page covers both exhibition catalogues as would be associated with an art exhibition, and trade fair guides which (apparently? I've never seen it, and there's no citation) can also be called exhibition catalogues.

I wrote a suggestion on the talk page about moving the stuff about trade fair catalogues to the trade fair article. But maybe I should just move it myself? How do I decide whether to do this myself? Any advice appreciated. Ascendingrisingharmonising (talk) 16:07, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@Ascendingrisingharmonising I'm not familiar with the subject, but the opening line is – "There are two types of exhibition catalogue (or exhibition catalog): a printed list of exhibits at an art exhibition; and a directory of exhibitors at a trade fair or business-to-business event." Does your research show that there are two types of publications known as exhibition catalogues? If so, then both types should be left in, if you can find good references. If the opening sentence is wrong, then you should correct it, and only leave what is actually known as exhibition catalogues. I would suggest that you first work on finding good references, and give others who may have an interest in the article time to respond to what you wrote on the Talk page. Best wishes on your projects – both academic and Wikipedia article editing. And thank you for wanting to help. Karenthewriter (talk) 16:30, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. In my opinion, there are "two types of publications known as exhibition catalogues" - but one type is almost always known as an exhibition catalogue, whereas the other type is only occasionally called that and usually called something else (and has little to do with what people usually mean by the term). Ascendingrisingharmonising (talk) 16:46, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Kenkan

Why is the Read tab on all enwiki pages currently labelled "Kenkan"? which is not a word in any language I know.

This seems to be an enwiki-only problem. dewiki, eswiki and frwiki show "Lesen", "Leer" and "Lire", as expected. Narky Blert (talk) 16:16, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

I've noticed this too. Has someone been messing about with some code? – PeeJay 16:51, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Perhaps related to the problem discussed at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Edit tab says siesie? Deor (talk) 17:19, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@Narky Blert: @PeeJay: Forgot to ping, drat it. Deor (talk) 17:22, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

GLORY - SUGGESTED UKRAINE VERSION: GLORY UKRAINE

I want to submit a suggested version of GLORY by John Legend and Common with two substitutions of rap sections specific to Ukraine. I would submit the lyrics with the substituted portions. Can I do this, knowing the lyrics are copyrighted? I'm new to this. Harlanpjohnson (talk) 16:34, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@Harlanpjohnson: Welcome to the Teahouse! It depends on the extent to which you plan to use the lyrics in the article. Quotations of copyrighted work within the analytical framework can fall into the fair use provisions within US copyright law (and to a lesser extent fair dealing and related concepts within other jurisdictions). Such quotations can be done through inline text, block quotes, or (in the case of a song) inclusion of an image showing part of the sheet music. However, how much of a song you can quote is open to interpretation, but you should follow the Non-free content policy. ––FormalDude talk 16:42, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Harlanpjohnson. I may be misunderstanding you, but what I think you are saying is that you want to use Wikipedia to publish an alternative version of a song. If that is indeed what you mean, then I am afraid that Wikipedia may not be used to publish original material, no matter how important or commendable it might be. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, and all that should go into any article is a summary of what independent reliable sources have published about the subject. ColinFine (talk) 23:30, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Checking needed

FYI

 – Moved to bottom of page, added signatures, deactivated {{Expand Chinese}} template which was causing formatting problems — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 17:39, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Onel5969 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) He is a long time wikipedia editor. He didn't improve the article and keeps moving my page. Finally, he wanted to delete it. 15:44, 11 March 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ngancheekean (talk • contribs) 17:25, March 11, 2022 (UTC)

I think {{Expand Chinese}} is a good tool, so any action next that i can do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ngancheekean (talk • contribs) 17:28, March 11, 2022 (UTC)

@Ngancheekean: Please stop accusing people. Can you link to the specific article you're referring to? Also, I doubt this has anything at all to do with race. — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 17:44, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Yan Zhiyi and Yan Han (Jin Dynasty). It is also at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ngancheekean (talk • contribs) 17:49, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

The articles themselves definitely don't need to go to ANI. Your conduct and accusations however, most likely do. Did you actually read the edit summaries you quoted there? Also, please always sign your messages, here and on ANI especially. — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 17:53, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

What do you want me to say? That is just went missing? I can put back the article but he will blocked again. Ngancheekean (talk) 22:08, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Translations of the bible

I often find when reading articles something to do with Christianity that, when quoting a bible passage, they tend to use the King James Version. Is this due to a policy/guideline (and if so why), or is it just an unwritten rule? Either way, I do not consider it very helpful - the King James Version is unclear for modern readers (given how the language has changed, and translation techniques have improved). Farleigheditor (talk) 17:29, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Farleigheditor. I am pinging Jenhawk777 to this discussion. Jenhawk777 is a very helpful editor with a lot of experience with biblical and Christian topics. Cullen328 (talk) 17:47, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Correct. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:27, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@Farleigheditor I don't know of any written guidance. I tend to consider it a version of WP:ENGVAR/WP:REFVAR, as in keep consistent within article, don't change without good reason (for example see the editsummaries in this diff:[1]), and if you start the article you get to pick. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:26, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello Farleigheditor, the simple answer is "because it's the easy thing to do". There is a template for King James that is simple and there isn't for other versions. That's it. Human laziness - mine included. Gråbergs Gråa Sång gives good advice above. Jenhawk777 (talk) 02:51, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Jenhawk hasn't edited today yet and it makes me wonder after this message [2]. I am hoping for the good outcome. 180.194.127.148 (talk) 12:08, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Editing an archive

If I've been reading an archive, and notice a text modif (ie bolding, small text, strikethrough) has been improperly closed and interupts read-ablitiy of the archive, is it okay to edit said archive? Example link Isro! (talk) 18:43, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@Axisroi, yes! I'm sure there's a line somewhere at WP:Talk page guidelines or somewhere else that permits this, but fundamentally, the more relevant guidance is WP:Ignore all rules. Fixing a broken archive (probably from a lint error) is a clear improvement, so don't let bureaucratic rules about not modifying archives get in your way. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 19:40, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Group collaborations

What are the differences between a WikiProject, a Workgroup, and a Taskforce? Are there any relevant policies, guidelines, or essays on the creation and maintenance of each of these? TipsyElephant (talk) 19:02, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

I suggest you read WP:Wikiproject and WP:Taskforce. I believe a Workgroup is the same as a Taskforce.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 19:18, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

FREE Renarldo Cartagena at fishkill correctional BY Maria cartagena (Redacted)

My brother has been in prison 28 years now its time he comes home im seeking to bring attention to this cause — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.254.1.42 (talk) 19:38, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia isn't the place to bring attention to a cause. See WP:PROMO. — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 19:41, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello! Wikipedia is not the place to advocate for a cause; we just mirror what journalists write. So if you'd like to bring attention to your brother, get journalists to write about him, and then Wikipedia coverage will follow. Best, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 19:42, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

If that's a telephone number, it shouldn't be displayed here. I've asked for admin attention. Elemimele (talk) 19:46, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@Elemimele: Personal information should be oversighted, not just revision deleted by an admin. I've emailed the oversighter team already. — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 19:50, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Article being deleted

Hello I just want to ask why my article is being deleted (Article is tuxedo labs) Teardown a creation OF tuxedo labs is an article so why are the CREATORS of teardown not being accepted as an article? Editor123ALOP (talk) 19:51, 11 March 2022 (UTC) Editor123ALOP (talk) 19:51, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@Editor123ALOP: Welcome to the Teahouse! Please see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 19:53, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Teardown (video game) has had significant coverage in reliable sources, the company has not, so only exists as a redirect to the game. This is quite common. Your draft is not being deleted, but has been rejected. You can see the reasons at the top of the draft.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 20:05, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Alright Thanks! Editor123ALOP (talk) 00:02, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Comedic, Irrelevant Articles

Hey, I'm kinda new to this creating pages thing, am I allowed to create a commemorative article about something no one is ever going to need in terms of information? I was wondering if I could create an article for my cat, Chesterlord, just for fun, maybe in the hopes that someone in the future would randomly stumble across it and laugh about it or something? Like, I noticed the Wikipediholic Test and that seems really irrelevant towards actual research, but seems like so much fun, can I create something like that?

Danke Dwightol102 (talk) 20:36, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@Dwightol102: I'd avoid creating anything that's not encyclopedic. There are other platforms for blogging. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 20:59, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Awwww maaaaan... Fiiiine.

(, Dwightol102 (talk) 21:01, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@Dwightol102: Welcome to the Teahouse! Regarding creating an article for your cat, see also WP:NOTWEBHOST. However, some people choose to upload a personal picture on their own user page. GoingBatty (talk) 01:29, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

What next??

Newbie here. Just put a draft article in my Sandbox. What do I do next? RDLunsfordPhD (talk) 20:51, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@RDLunsfordPhD:  Courtesy link: User:RDLunsfordPhD/sandbox Please read WP:COI and WP:YOURFIRSTARTICLE. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 20:58, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! RDLunsfordPhD (talk) 21:11, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@RDLunsfordPhD: Also see WP:GNG and WP:PROF for what makes a person with an academic career Wikipedia-notable, and Help:Referencing for beginners for how to reference. David notMD (talk) 21:14, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Help for new article about the source

HI!! I'm new here and I became with a view to make a page for my favorite artist called LØREN. While I was reading about how to write an article in Wikipedia I saw that my sources have to be reliable and from a trusted and high-quality source. The only sources I can find right now are these sites: https://kprofiles.com/loren-profile-facts/#disqus_thread https://i-d.vice.com/en_uk/article/m7enn8/loren-south-korean-music-interview&ved=2ahUKEwjt5_b08 https://kpopmembersbio.com/loren-profile/&ved=2ahUKEwiyoMzD_r72AhWKRvEDHWW_B9s4ChAWegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw0CNVAVghzwxTDX5XTYek6qr72AhUtwQIHHem1C04QFnoECB4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw2OC7-u0OPSZGP-PbPbsHsT https://rollingstoneindia.com/loren-delivers-pop-punk-excellence-on-need-ooo-eee/&ved=2ahUKEwiyoMzD_r72AhWKRvEDHWW_B9s4ChAWegQIEBAB&usg=AOvVaw2kianij-dzrbDVirT17Npg https://genius.com/artists/Lren&ved=2ahUKEwitwq74_r72AhURwAIHHYouC-A4FBAWegQIFBAB&usg=AOvVaw2pjIZUXkA_-7-RUwhMdiaz At a first look that's all the trusty information I can find an I'm sure I'm not going too find more,plus Instagram where the artist and his own company FIRE EXIT RECØRDS have corrected and approved these informations. What I want to say is if there is any chance my article will not be deleted after I post it because of the source. I'm going also to add it to the Wikipedia: Requested Artcles but I would like to have some more information. Also, if I write, do you think is going to be notable and is this enough information? Thank you for your time. Fisforfenia (talk) 21:07, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@Fisforfenia: Some of the links look dead. Have you read WP:NMUSICIAN yet? It seems a bit weak for now. You should read WP:YOURFIRSTARTICLE. This is very hard to do successfully if you are new. If you think you have enough, you can start a draft at Wikipedia:Articles for creation. It's not likely that another editor will see a request and act on it to create the article themselves. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 21:32, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

It was a mistake, but how to fix it?

I was in a hurry to create an English version of a page devoted to the Russian businessman and philanthropist Boris Zimin (this person supported Russian science for years, and now there is a concern in Russian scientific society that he might be sanctioned, which would be terribly unfair! It's just an explanation why I was in a hurry). So I made a wrong decision to create a short page of a single paragraph and then develop it into a normal English page. But I underestimated the speed of Wikipedia: in 15 minutes the page was converted into a draft as relying on a single source (though several sources were already at hand, I did not have time to insert them).

Now, the page is a draft: Draft:Boris Zimin

It contains now a number of sources both English and Russian, and I am a bit frustrated because the person who converted it into a draft does not answer, and I don't see what's wrong with the page now. If somebody feels that it requires improvement, please let me know. But if it is OK, how can I make it a normal English version? Mlarisa (talk) 22:25, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

courtesy ping: Robert McClenon 💜  melecie  talk - 23:51, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

User:Mlarisa, User:Melecie - I didn't move it to draft space. I only put a note on it saying that it had been moved from article space to draft space. It was moved from article space to draft space by User:Singularity42. You asked me on my talk page, and I gave the same answer, and Singularity42 answered, saying that it appeared that you had resolved the issue, which was that there was only one source.

I will add that your mistake was one that is sometimes made by editors creating an article in article space, and that is to create part of the article, in article space, and expect to finish it in article space soon. As you can see, New Page Review is often quick in dealing with clearly incomplete articles, which may be moved to draft space or tagged for speedy deletion. What I, and some other editors, advise, is not to put a fragment of an article in article space. Put the fragment of the article in user space, such as a sandbox, or in draft space. When it is ready for article space, move it to article space.

What you can do now is to wait for a reviewer to accept the draft, which moves it into article space. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:38, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

And now it's reviewed and back in mainspace.Slywriter (talk) 02:04, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

User:Robert McClenon Thank you for explanation, in future I will be careful with new articles ) Mlarisa (talk) 06:49, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Slywriter Thank you very much for your help! Mlarisa (talk) 06:53, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Source with dead/deceiving link. Potentially harmful.

How do I delete it + do I need to explain why I did so in the edit history? The page is "Kolchuga passive sensor" Smitty.henry (talk) 22:31, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Kolchuga passive sensor

hi Smitty.henry and welcome to the teahouse! what link are you referring to? 💜  melecie  talk - 23:54, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Soundcloud as a reliable source.

Hello there. I'm reviewing an article for GA status and one of the sources listed is a link to a soundcloud file. I don't know if I should treat this similar to an archive.org link or if it's an unreliable source altogether. Any opinions? NSNW (talk) 23:01, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@NSNW, can you give us the link and the statement it's trying to support? Soundclouds are managed by the artist, typically, so I'd guess it's likely suitable only for supporting WP:ABOUTSELF material. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 00:53, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Sure thing. (https://soundcloud.com/qanonanonymous/episode-123-international-qanon-the-netherlands-feat-marc-andre-argentino). The source is referencing the fact that a researcher identified a trend in how QAnon followers attempt to bring female followers into joining the theory, (the article I am reviewing is Pastel QAnon). NSNW (talk) 01:09, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

I would also like to add that the source is isn't necessary for the text. There are three sources besides the SoundCloud source that are accurate being used to cite the claim. I'm mainly doing this for future reference if I ever come across a SoundCloud source that's by itself. NSNW (talk) 01:13, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

@NSNW, ah, well in that case, I'd say the principle applies that it matters who the source is and what their credentials are, not what platform they're publishing on. So just as YouTube isn't normally reliable but a YouTube video from a YouTube video from The New York Times very much is, so too a Soundcloud audio file can be reliable, but it'd be have to be from a reliable source. I'd have to look more into it to say if Marc-André Argentino or QAnon Anonymous meet that bar, but that's the relevant question. Hope that helps! Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 07:45, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Alright then, I will probably just ask that the source be removed. There are already reliable sources that cite Marc-Andre Argentino, so it shouldn't be a problem; thank you. NSNW (talk) 19:59, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Translation without proper attribution

Hi there, I noticed that several of the articles I wrote on the French Wikipedia have been translated here in English, however without proper attribution (per WP:TFOLWP). One example: Shigisan Engi Emaki. Any idea how to fix it now? Binabik (talk) 00:01, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

@Binabik: Add the template {{Translated page}} to the talk page, and do a dummy edit naming the originating source with the edit summary. Notify the translating editor. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 00:11, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

If you'd like, you can use the {{uw-translation}} template to warn the editor. DanCherek (talk) 00:13, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

If the article was rated by a Wikiproject, you might also want to remind the editor who rated it to check if an article looks like it might be a translation from another wiki before rating it. I catch unattributed translations in the WP:GERMANY assessment queue all the time. -- asilvering (talk) 04:12, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the answers! Binabik (talk) 19:16, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Am I violating policy on rel sources and factual statements?

I recently added in information that (over 90 countries have signed up for Huawei). My source is as below. https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/585662-to-compete-with-china-in-5g-america-must-solve-its-spectrum-problem https://www.forbes.com/sites/arthurherman/2020/06/09/whos-winning-and-whos-losing-the-war-over-5g/?sh=2a977d67104e Am I wrong to add into an article saying that "over 90 countries signed up for Huawei"? I think my sources aren't making an opinion but simply stating a fact. Dragonkingluv (talk) 03:47, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

hi Dragonkingluv and welcome to the teahouse! the first source is part of an opinion piece, and while it might state facts, it is better to find a less opinionated source for it as per WP:NEWSORG: Editorial commentary, analysis and opinion pieces, whether written by the editors of the publication (editorials) or outside authors (invited op-eds and letters to the editor from notable figures) are reliable primary sources for statements attributed to that editor or author, but are rarely reliable for statements of fact. the second source is a forbes contributors piece, which is not only an opinion piece, but also don't have as much editorial oversight and as such generally considered unreliable. happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 05:49, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

How can i create a person page

Neha Pandey i have referances. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AhmdAsjad (talk • contribs) 06:21, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

@AhmdAsjad, see Help:Your first article. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 07:39, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

You have a track record of creating articles without going through AfC that are then nominated for deletion, also putting an article in mainspace after it was declined at AfC, also creating biography articles of living people without adequate referencing (Tim McGeary), also being warned for removing AfD tags from your articles. If you believe you have refs for Neha Pandey, then I strongly recommend using the AfC process. That way, one reviewer will decide if the draft is worthy, rather than wasting the time of many at AfD. David notMD (talk) 11:49, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

On further digging, Neha Pandey was recently created as an article (after several failed attempts in the past). It was moved to Draft:Neha Pandey and then deleted. David notMD (talk) 12:07, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Deletion tag in an article

Hi, I added deletion tag in this article: Neena Gupta. I believe the notability is lacking for this person. But my deletion tag was deleted. Could someone review this and let me know why? Logically yours... (talk) 07:05, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

You never tagged it for deletion, but rather for notability issues. The tag seems to have served its purpose, as it's drawn other editors to work on the article and possibly fix it. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 07:25, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

How to change a page title

I wanted to create a page for International Institute for Software Testing. It got created but I see the title is https://testinginstitute.com. How do I change the page title? Magdyshanna (talk) 07:56, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Magdyshanna, welcome to the Teahouse. You created https:/testinginstitute.com. It has been deleted per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#A7. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:27, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

@Magdyshanna: In general, you can change the title of a page on the english Wikipedia if you have at least 10 edits and have been registered for 4 days by using the page move functionality.

On an unrelated note, Since your article creation history has more failures than sucesses, I would reccomend that you still use the draft namespace to prepear articles until they are ready, and submit them to AfC. Victor Schmidt (talk) 09:04, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

am reading Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#Atrying to understand why it was deleted. The international Institute for Software Testing is the ONLY educational institution in the world authorized to issue education-based certifications in software testing. It is also the world leader in software testing certifications by the statements of the references independent sources. How that not important. I can see pages for other commercial organization, some of the are our competitors, and they are listing unrelated items on the page e.g. TechWell Corporation and International Software Testing Qualifications Board, which have references to self-published sources. Please help me understand why you think this is not important Magdyshanna (talk) 03:43, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

@Magdyshanna: You have to establish that the subject is notable as Wikipedia defines the term. That means using secondary, independent, reliable sources. Do not use just any other article as a benchmark; if you must, take a look at good or featured articles. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 07:20, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

moving a draft to article space

I'm trying to move my draft Draft:Da Vinci (magazine) but i'm running into some issues. Mainly the moved page only moves the talk tags and not the content? I've moved it again to draft and it has the same issues Draft:Da Vinci (magazine). WillsEdtior777 (talk) 09:30, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

You probbably accidentially moved the talk page, though this will now need some extensive fixing to reunite Draft:Da Vinci (magazine) with its talkpage, which currently resides at Draft:Da Vinci (magazine).. If one of the admin folks here at the Teahouse is reading this, could you move Draft:Da Vinci (magazine). to Draft talk:Da Vinci (magazine), where it belongs? Victor Schmidt (talk) 11:11, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Admin Deb deleted Draft talk:Da Vinci (magazine) to make room for this move. I completed the transaction by have moving Draft:Da Vinci (magazine). to Draft talk:Da Vinci (magazine). I hope that fixes the problem. —Wasell^(T) 12:16, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Victor and Deb and Wasell. I'll re-check next time before i move a page.WillsEdtior777 (talk)

Chemical information

Hello I'm looking for someone named Berek on the Wikipedia to check my chemical information here at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deuterium_-_Neutron_Fusion Gekkotan (talk) 12:21, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Before you do that, Gekkotan, please remove all the inappropriate capital letters ("Unimageable [sic] Amounts of Energy to Be Released", etc), and rephrase "Some Politicians think its wonderful and it is in most cases" in an (of course referenced) way suitable for an encyclopedia. -- Hoary (talk) 12:55, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Draft:Deuterium–neutron fusion Moved to draft by another user. 108.52.196.8 (talk) 13:23, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Gekkotan In my opinion, you have a serious competency-is-required problem. In looking at your contributions to date, I see two drafts that were declined and seven that have not been submitted for review. Your writing consistes of run-on sentences and sentence fragments, and inappropriate word capitalization. Draft:Abell 1836-BCG is an example. The only reason Draft:Cyclone Gombe approaches a valid draft is because other editors have written most of it. I strongly recommend that you stop creating new drafts, then either improve or abandon your existing drafts. David notMD (talk) 16:24, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Gekkotan check out WP:YOURFIRSTARTICLE. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 16:34, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Gekkotan has been editing only since March 2nd. David notMD (talk) 00:50, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

New article

When can i share my idea of an article to be created — Preceding unsigned comment added by Infotrex (talk • contribs) 13:00, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

hi Infotrex and welcome to the teahouse! you can create an article yourself actually, see WP:Your first article. if you feel like it may be too hard for you right now, you can shelve it for now and come back to it once you have enough skill, or drop it in WP:Requested articles and someone may be able to make it if they know of it too. happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 13:20, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Truth is, Requested articles is pretty much a dead letter site, meaning that article ideas are submitted, but nothing happens. David notMD (talk) 16:17, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

That's not entirely true! Sometimes I go through and remove the obviously-not-going-to-happen ones (i.e. the repeated request for Chris-Chan under various titles which has been discussed far beyond extensively) casualdejekyll 02:57, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Shortcut on MOS

I recently posted an update per a lengthy MOS talkpage discussion, but I realized that I actually do not know how to get a proper "shortcut" to actually link back to an article or section. Can someone please help me to "fix" this shortcut listed here as MOS:SPACEBENEATH. This is listed or referred to in two sections:

1. Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Accessibility#Spacing beneath heading and 2. Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Section headings

You will notice that the 'SPACEBENEATH' shortcut link is redlinked (not working) in both cases. Thanks! ♥Th78blue (talk)♥ 13:18, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

hi Th78blue! I believe shortcuts are just redirects, you just probably need to make a redirect at MOS:SPACEBENEATH like #REDIRECT [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Accessibility#Spacing beneath heading]] to get it to work. although there's the problem of where you want the shortcut to redirect to, as you can only redirect to one. happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 13:25, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, so I tried that just now to hit the "create redirect" button, and entered this text, #REDIRECT MOS:SPACEBENEATH and it failed me. If I have to choose only one, I want MOS:SPACEBENEATH to redirect to Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Section headings. Any further help in getting this to work would be appreciated! ♥Th78blue (talk)♥ 13:34, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

@Th78blue: I've created the shortcut for you just to help you out here. — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 13:57, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. I appreciate that! I'll still want to learn what I was doing wrong, but I appreciate a quick fix in the meantime too. ♥Th78blue (talk)♥ 13:59, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

To put it into just a few words: A shortcut is exactly like any other redirect, which is like any other page on the wiki. To make a redirect, you just add that bit of code on the page you want to redirect from to point it toward the page you want to redirect to. In this case, that meant creating MOS:SPACEBENEATH with the content #REDIRECT [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style#MOS:SPACEBENEATH]] (along with the {{R from shortcut}} tag just to categorize it), which linked to the specific paragraph where the {{Shortcut}} tag was added on the MoS page. — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 14:19, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

copyright

Someone randomly changed the work I did when I was in the middle of editing

Someone said some text was copyrighted. Copyright is usually the whole artwork or work, not a piece or portion of the text. Are there any copyright experts or anywhere else to get this fixed?  Morefactswiki (talk) 15:00, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

@Morefactswiki: Please only seek one method of getting assistance at one time. Asking in multiple places annoys people because it is likely wasted effort. (For those who see this, this is also at WP:HD#Copyright). Victor Schmidt (talk) 15:26, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Courtesy note: user is now blocked. — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 15:42, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Poor attitude and complete inability to read and understand information provided by others. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 16:30, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Addition to Julien Binford history

His papers are currently held in the Virginia museum of fine arts archive. What topic should the information go under? Finecreek (talk) 16:40, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Finecreek. A possibility would be to create a "Legacy" section that would list museums that hold his paintings and the locations of his existing murals. This article, for example, discusses efforts to save some of his murals. Archiving of his papers could be added as well. Cullen328 (talk) 17:54, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Dear, Team Why did you decline the page I created?

Dear, Team Why did you decline the page I created? Mytom3 (talk) 17:02, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Courtesy: Draft:Anshuman Tiwari (musician). The draft was declined by a reviewer. Reasons given in the decline notice. The reviewer's name is on the review, so you could ask that person on their Talk page. Teahouse hosts are here to advise, but not to function as reviewers. David notMD (talk) 17:06, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

@Mytom3: Hello Mytom3, Welcome to Wikipedia! Your page was declined because your page does not have reliable sources. It means that there should be significant coverage about the person in reliable sources. You should add those references in your page. You can search on Google to find more references about him, than add them in article. I suggest you to read WP:General notability guidelines. Thank you. Happy editing! — Preceding unsigned comment added by IconEditorMaster (talk • contribs)

More to the point, there is an additional set of guidelines for musicians (see WP:MUSIC). And the image of Anshuman is about to be deleted, as it was taken from his website, wich is copyright protected. David notMD (talk) 17:28, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

User:Mytom3 - If I had been the reviewer, I would have declined Draft:Anshuman Tiwari (musician). Please do not annoy multiple editors by asking them for guidance. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:17, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

AfC for Captain Robert Hicks has been rejected by one reviewer

If anyone is able to assist me in saving this article from its current "rejected" status, would they be kind enough to do so here: [[3]]? - I find it difficult to be in two places at once! Would a change of title, making the article about the Hicks family, be more acceptable than being focussed on Robert Hicks? Anne (talk) 19:35, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

I'm sorry but no amount of assistance is going to make the subject (or their family) notable enough to become the subject of a Wikipedia article. You have already been given very good advice.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 19:57, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Per this comment, also see WP:OVERCOME. — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 20:24, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Draft:Captain Robert Hicks, North Carolina Militia

Anne None of the information in the draft suggests that the Hicks family as such would be Wikipedia-notable. As for this being about Robert, that would mean removing all content not directly about Robert and seeing what was left. David notMD (talk) 10:22, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Promoting all presidents to good article status

I would like to work towards getting all the presidents to at least good article status. I was wondering if someone can evaluate all the presidents articles that are not good or featured articles on what their issues are and figure out which articles will be easy to work on and which articles will need a lot of work before reaching featured article status. Interstellarity (talk) 21:02, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

I'd recommend you check out the US Presidents Wikiproject, which is intended to organize work on those articles. I'm not sure how active that project is, but it does have some tables to overview the current state of those articles. It takes some work to evaluate an article, so it might be best to choose one to focus on and ask specifically about it.--Noren (talk) 21:14, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

There are lots of articles about presidents and most of them probably have banners for WikiProjects on the tops of their user talk pages; so, that might be a good place to start. You’re also probably going to need to be clearer about which type of articles you asking for help on. Are you talking about biographies about individual presidents of countries, organizations, institutions or companies? Are you talking about more general articles about the office of president, or list articles about the president of certain countries? The word “president” might mean different things to different people. — Marchjuly (talk) 21:17, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: To be clear, I am talking about the biographies of the individual presidents who served as president. Interstellarity (talk) 21:39, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

User:Interstellarity - I think you missed the point of the question in giving an American-centric answer in an international Anglophone community. There are approximately 200 countries in the world, and I would guess that more than half of them each have an office of president, where the others either are monarchies or have some alternate governmental system. There have been hundreds, maybe a few thousand, individuals who have served as president of a republic. You were being asked whether you meant President of the United States, current heads of state, or what. This is an international encyclopedia. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:56, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Interstellarity, Volodymyr Zelenskyy and Vladimir Putin are just two newsworthy examples of the "individual presidents who served as president". Although both articles look very good to my inexpert eye, neither is "good" (let alone "featured"), and I think you'd have your hands full getting either promoted. -- Hoary (talk) 22:08, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

@Hoary: To be even more clear, I have no interest in promoting those articles to good article status. What I would like to do is focus on the US presidents. Interstellarity (talk) 22:24, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Your best bet, in my opinion, is to discuss what you want to do with the members of Wikipedia:WikiProject United States Presidents (as suggested above by Noren) because that's where you're likely to find editors familiar with these articles and interested in helping you. Check out WP:POTUS#Task 1 because that seems to be one of primary goals of that WikiProject. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:32, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Interstellarity Interesting proposal. Per WP:POTUS#Task 1, 30 of 45 U.S. Presidents' articles are currently either GA or FA. Of the other 15, most are either Failed nominations (examples Kennedy, LBJ) or Delisted former GA or FA (examples Jefferson, Ford). Appears only Buchanan (C-class) and Hoover (C-class) have never been nominated. The article on President Obama achieved FA in 2004, was reviewed and kept 11 times, then reviewed and demoted in 2021. David notMD (talk) 00:27, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

@Interstellarity, making U.S. presidents a good topic is a monumental, frankly unrealistic goal. I would start by looking a little smaller—check out the FARs for the delisted FAs and see if any of them have low-hanging fruit that'd let you get them back up at least to GA. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 05:36, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

I disagree with Sdkb. MarchJuly pointed out that there are editors who have already been active on U.S. President articles. The Delisted list (former FA or GA): Jefferson, T Roosevelt, Ford, Bush (senior), Obama, Biden. The failed nomination list: Monroe, JQ Adams, Buren, Trump. Or else first tackle the two never-nominated: Buchanan and Hoover. My own multi-year task has been to raise all vitamin articles to GA. Out of 13, 9 are now GA and one Vitamin A nominated and awaiting a reviewer. David notMD (talk) 10:33, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Speaking of FAR - one suggestion of a US President article where there is discussion and a current, detailed review: the current FAR discussion for William Henry Harrison. While that article is currently Featured, it's in danger of losing that status and could use help- which arguably has just as much practical importance as getting a new article promoted. --Noren (talk) 16:56, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

edit and update a wikkipedia page

Good day, i edited and updated a wikipedia page but it was reversed, how can i have it approved and unreversed? Markegwu (talk) 23:26, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

@Markegwu: As noted in the message on your talk page, you are trying to delete a lot from the article with no explanation. Please discuss it on that article's talk page. Don't edit war. RudolfRed (talk) 23:37, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

thanks, how do i get to the artcles talk page? Markegwu (talk) 23:45, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Dave_Umahi RudolfRed (talk) 23:49, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi Markegwu. The first thing you should do is check the page history of the article in question and see if the editor who undid your changes left an edit summary explaining why. The edit summary might contain a list of relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines that applied to your edit (sometimes this includes links (i.e. words indicated in blue) where you can find more specific information. If you find an edit summary and don't understand what it means, then you can start a discussion about the edit you made on the article's talk page as explained here. If you're not sure how to use an article talk page, you can find out more information on that here. Wikipedia is a collaborative editing project and often there are disagreements between editors about what content should be added to articles and what content should be removed. When that happens, the best way to try and resolve things is through discussion to see if a consensus can be established either way. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:44, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

external links

Hi my question is that how I can add external links Fashijanjua (talk) 00:06, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

External links must not be to company websites, as that is considered promotional. You have attempted to add metsolar to three articles. That is considered attempted spamming, and can get you indefinitely blocked. David notMD (talk) 00:32, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

if i want to add this website then Fashijanjua (talk) 00:33, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

You can see the guidance at WP:ELNO. RudolfRed (talk) 00:41, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

 92.45.19.32 (talk) 00:51, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Basically, a company website can be an extenal link only if the article is about the company. Same for people. David notMD (talk) 00:54, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

How to become a host in Teahouse

Can you tell me how to become a host on Teahouse? 2001:44B8:41C6:F700:5C17:7652:27D9:A01F (talk) 02:27, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Becoming a host at the teahouse requires you to be extended confirmed, which additionally requires you first to create an account (which has many other benefits) and have 500 edits + 30 days of editing casualdejekyll 03:01, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Of course, the title of "host" confers no privileges or authority; it's generally given to users who are regulars and give helpful answers. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:16, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

The most important factor, by far, is to consistently give accurate, informative and friendly answers at the Teahouse. I agree with Casualdejekyll that, if you want to become a "Teahouse regular", that it would be advisable to create an account. Cullen328 (talk) 06:10, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

My question on the Draft: Open: A Boy's Wayang Adventure

Hi, this is an editor Meiwuzhang. I want to ask tgis wuestion, if a book has almost bo reviews from a newpaper, is it possible to have reviews from a magizine? 151.192.141.108 (talk) 05:24, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

@Meiwuzhang, books are reviewed in various places, so it's certainly possible a book not reviewed in any newspapers would be reviewed in a magazine. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 05:33, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meiwuzhang (talk • contribs) 05:37, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Meiwuzhang. The format of the publication, namely whether it is a newspaper or a magazine or an online source is not important. What matters is whether or not the source qualifies as a reliable source. When it comes to book reviews, reviews written by professional journalistic critics or academics carried in a respected general circulation publication will carry more weight than an amateur review in a small local publication. Cullen328 (talk) 05:40, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Noted, I can resubmit my draft now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meiwuzhang (talk • contribs) 05:43, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

verify my article

Shadeen Anglin plz verify AhmdAsjad (talk) 06:24, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Forum-shopping won't help. You've received the same responces on IRC, the AfD, and now here. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 06:31, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Kanmani_Pappa

Draft:Kanmani Pappa plz review it and movie AhmdAsjad (talk) 07:11, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

AhmdAsjad you had a notice of paid editing for Kanmani Pappa but have now removed it. Why? If you are paid then you need to declare this or your editing privileges will be taken away. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 08:40, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

To date, you have attempted to create eleven articles. Are you a paid editor for all? You declared paid for only two, then reverted one. Status: one existng article, four closed AfDs, one article at Proposed deletion, two articles Speedy deleted, one article currently at AfD and two drafts. David notMD (talk) 10:43, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Which Twinkle warning?

I want to warn this person using Twinkle. Which warning fits their behavior? lol1VNIO (talk • contribs) 09:00, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

hi Lol1VNIO and welcome to the teahouse! I really don't think Big forehead really fits the category of libel, doesn't really harm their reputation. maybe just typical disruptive editing or vandalism? happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 09:10, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Adding images of stamps to articles

Dear All One of the ways I would like to edit and add content to the Wikipedia is y adding good quality images of stamps. Sometimes they add details or a visual reference where no photography is available. they also, are a part of culture and history. I am reading the guidelines but caanot find a way to address this question. Let's say I want to add the jpeg of a stamp to this article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_C.II

You can read at the article that this aircraft was used also by hungarians. There is already a picture of the austro-hungarian plane. On 1968, the Magyar Posta (Post office of Hungary) made a stamp of this same plane. I add a link to the image, (https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/moscow-russia-july-postage-stamp-printed-hungary-shows-lloyd-c-ii-airplanes-serie-circa-lloyd-c-ii-airplanes-serie-circa-236719531.jpg) I must say that I own a copy of the stamp and will scan it in high resolution, etc...

Where do you think that this image can be added at the article? I don't see the place to add another image and the article is perfectly edited. Can you point me where I can find the guidelines for adding more images, like stamps? I have a HUGE collection, maybe when we speak about flowers and animals this depictions can be of some value, in any case, they are an art expression, from my point of view.

Some help? Thanks in advance. Tmg-pmi (talk) 09:17, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

I did this for one article years ago and my addition of a photograph of a U.S. stamp was reverted as a copyright infringement. On the other hand, if I go to Commons and search on the word "stamp" there are literally hundreds of thousands of images. David notMD (talk) 10:53, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

The copyright rules for stamps vary country-by-country and by age of the stamp. Hence it gets complicated. The index page for all this is on Commons at c:Commons:Stamps. Please make sure, Tmg-pmi that you have read the relevant rules carefully before you upload any images to Commons, or you may be wasting your own time and that of others who have to delete images that don't have the appropriate license. In general, Hungarian stamps are probably not in the public domain. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:04, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

WP have dark mode?

If have, how to activate it? Success think (talk) 11:56, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello Success think! Yes, Wikipedia does have a Dark Mode option. You need to switch it on in preferences first so that the Dark Mode will appear at the top of your page to toggle on or off. Detailed instructions for this are on this page here. Hope this is of help! LooksGreatInATurtleNeck (talk) 12:13, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Accessing old TP’s

Hi... anyone please, how can I access old talk/archive pages? At the moment I’m only able to read/open up Active Discussions... but for older discussions I can’t seem to get? Can anyone suggest anything?

I using Iphone-6plus with Safari browser if that makes any difference? Thank you in advance. 81.108.244.153 (talk) 12:38, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi IP 81.108.244.153. Check the top of the article talk page to see whether there are links to its archives. For example, if you look at the top of Wikipedia talk:Teahouse, you'll see a search window and an index for previously archived pages. There are various ways for a talk page to be archived, but usually all of them involve some kind of index at the top of the current version of the page. -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:53, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Soccer ( Football ) museums and Halls of Fames in the world List_of_sports_museums_and_halls_of_fame_in_Australia

we have in Western Australia the Football Hall of Fame Western Australia which was established in 1996 to preserve the history and memorabilia of soccer / football in Western Australia and we hope to establish a museum this year for that sole purpose , which we believe will be the only dedicated soccer / football museum in Australia So I was asking how we get to record our Hall of Fame and Museum on Wikipedia please Thank you, for your time Elizabeth Re President Football Hall of Fame Western Australia 2001:8003:8808:5A01:FC7D:E9E0:3296:117A (talk) 12:49, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi IP 2001:8003:8808:5A01:FC7D:E9E0:3296:117A (aka Elizabeth). What you should do it go to the article's talk page at Talk:List of sports museums and halls of fame in Australia and make an edit request. At the top of the talk page, you'll see a tab called "New section". Click on it and a window will open when you can post your request. Follow the instructions given here and post your request. Generally, it's a good idea to use the template Template:Request edit for such requests and there are instructions on how to use the template found on its documentation page. Once you've added your request, click on "Show preview" to make sure things look OK. If they do, click on "Publish changes" and your request will be posted. -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:04, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Elizabeth, and Welcome to the Teahouse. I'm sorry, I'm going to disagree somewhat with Marchjuly. While you could indeed do what Marchjuly says, I would reject such a request unless you can adduce the independent reliable sources required to establish that your Hall of Fame and Museum meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability.

Another way of putting this is that the answer to your question "how we get to to record our Hall of Fame and Museum on Wikipedia" is "You don't. Wikipedia is not here to advertise your endeavour, however laudable it may be. If it meets the criteria for notability, then we could have an article on it (and it could be mentioned in the list); but such an article would not belong to you, not be controlled by you, and would not necessarily say what you wanted it to say". ColinFine (talk) 15:22, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Confusion in shortlisting reliable sources in fintech for citation regarding

I am trying to edit the page about fintech. When I google the term and go through the articles. They all seem to have some valid point or the other. However, most are blogs or articles written by people in the field. As you know fintech is a recent phenomenon, and not all the sides are covered in respectable publications. Moreover, some of the publications like New York Times are subscription based.

How do I go about finding reliable sources for the edits that I want to make? Please help.

If I did, that will be my very first edit on Wikipedia. Mvsudhakaran (talk) 13:25, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Mvsudhakaran. If you're a newcomer here, I'd advise starting slowly. Looking at Financial technology, specifically as it is now, the article could do with some clean-up before more gets added. For example, citations 11,12, and 13 are all to the same source so WP:Named references should be used to consolidate them. Using subscription-based citations are fine (#10 is just that currently) and obviously it helps if you personally have access to the publications you want to use. Citations are there to ensure that statements in articles can be verified by readers but we don't insist that all readers have easy access to all sources. If there's something you want to add but are unsure about, then use the Talk Page of the relevant article, e.g. Talk:Financial technology, to discuss the issue with other editors first. WP:RSPS is a help page for sources generally considered reliable. Good luck! Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:54, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

New Here

Hello Everyone,

I am new to Wikipedia, and I submitted a biography about two weeks a go. It's called Dr.Foz; but now I cant access it; I get this Redirect message every time and I don't know what to do to get access to the draft. I'm just wondering when is it gonna be published on the internet?

thank you,

Shaimaa

Shaimaa2 (talk) 15:02, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello Shaimaa2! The Draft still exists, here, it appears to have been renamed by Dan arndt so perhaps that is why you're having problems finding it. Hope this is of help! LooksGreatInATurtleNeck (talk) 15:22, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Shaaimaa2, and welcome to the Teahouse. Your article has been moved to draft space, and renamed Draft:Fawzzeyyah Zeid Al-Durai by Dan arndt, who has regrettably not left you a message anywhere explaining why. Looking through the references quickly, it looks as if many of them do not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria of being reliably published, independent of the subject, and conatining WP:significant coverage of the subject. Please have a look at WP:NBIO for information about the sourcing required.

The fact is that creating a new article is much much much more difficult than most people realise, and if people try to create an article as the first thing, or almost the first thing, that they do in editing Wikipedia, they usually have a frustrating time. Your attempt is not bad as regards its formatting, but I'm afraid that you haven't yet understood the requirements of sourcing. My advice would be to leave the draft aside for a few months, while you work on existing articles, and leqarn about sourcing. (The draft may get deleted after six months if you do nothing to it, but you can continue to improve it from time to time as you come to understand what is needed). ColinFine (talk) 15:31, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Approval

I'm freshman on Wikipedia. Can you tell me how I'm able to know that the article I created is approved or not? Is there any sign on the article page? Or I must wait some kind of notification letter.

Thanks in advance. Kamron99 (talk) 15:38, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

@Kamron99: It is already in article space, but I see that from the deletion log at Draft:Kateryna Gornostai, Explicit deleted the draft on 27 February on grounds of deletion criterion G7, while Kateryna Gornostai was created in article space on the 26.
@Robert McClenon: Has there been any substantial change between the draft and this article? As I don't have a draft to compare it to, I'm contemplating moving this into draftspace if there isn't any. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:27, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

User:Tenryuu - I didn't see the draft. At least, I don't think I saw the draft. I do see that User:Kamron99 corrected the omission of articles, which was the reason for my tagging it for copy-edit. I also see that User:Kamron99 reverted edits by User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång, and am not sure why they did that. I don't understand the original question by the original poster, who asks about approval. Are they asking whether the article has been reviewed, so that it will be indexed? If so, why? That question is usually asked with regard to search engine optimization. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:00, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

I saw that the draft and the article were more or less the same, and left a message for User:Kamron99 that it is not necessary to create the same article in both draft space and article space. I can't be sure about details, because the draft was then deleted. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:59, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Why move Kateryna Gornostai to draftspace? David notMD (talk) 16:36, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

As much as I would like to assume good faith, the timing of creating the subject in mainspace versus when it was deleted seems a little too coincidental. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:38, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

My best guess is that the creating author started with a draft, then decided to move the content to mainspace on 26 Feb, then realized the draft still existed, so author-requested the draft be deleted on 27 Feb. If the article is not mainspace worthy, then move it to draft, but if the only problem is you do not know what happened, I suggest you query the article creator. David notMD (talk) 17:09, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Which is the reason I'm querying. Newcomers skipping the AfC process tends to raise a few eyebrows. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:29, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

The use of the AFC process is optional. I do not ask questions about why new editors skip the AFC process, which is slow. However, I do ask questions about why new editors ask about reviewing and indexing, and I ask questions about why an editor would request that a draft be deleted when there is an article. User:Kamron99 - What exactly are you asking about the article, and why are you asking? Robert McClenon (talk) 18:47, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Kamron99 You are being asked to comment here. David notMD (talk) 18:13, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Time zone

Is there a way to account for US daylight savings using {{current time}} and possibly some parser functions?

Example: to have UTC-08:00 switch to UTC-07:00 in March then back to UTC-08:00 in November. Thanks. (I'm using {{infobox Wikipedia user}} if it helps) Rusty4321 ^{talk contributions log} 17:41, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

@Rusty4321 Welcome to the Teahouse. Personally, I find making two additional edits a year isn't much of an issue, but would {{Template:CurrentTimeIn}} suit your needs? Nick Moyes (talk) 20:32, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Can an (auto)confirmed user on the Hebrew Wikipedia please nominate this page for AfD?

(Sorry if this is not the place to ask, as I don't know where to ask on the Hebrew wiki)

FYI

 – autoconfirmed requires 100 edits on the Hebrew Wikipedia

he:מיקמק has a singular source, and I think it should be deleted, but I can't add the AfD template, as it's semi-protected.

Additionaly, the previous deletion "discussions" were mainly either just votes, "I like it", "It's popular", or "It's Israeli". I think it should have a proper discussion. QuickQuokka ^{[⁠talk • contribs]} 17:45, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

@QuickQuokka: If you need help with the Hebrew Wikipedia, ask there. This is the link to that Wiki's help desk: [4] RudolfRed (talk) 21:27, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Additionally, each Wikipedia sets its own rules for deletion. We don't count "votes" here on EN Wikipedia, but the rules at HE Wikipedia may be different. RudolfRed (talk) 21:28, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Edits being deleted

Hello, I was recently editing the most recent episodes of "Immortal Songs: Singing the Legend" and after I completed the edits, all the section for episodes airing in 2022 was deleted and I'm not sure why if I've been editing the episodes for several months and this is the first time this happens. Any ideas of what could be the problem? Thanks! 189.207.39.74 (talk) 17:55, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

In looking at the edit history, you had one edit where you removed your own edit. Perhaps this was unintentional? 331dot (talk) 18:01, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

It was, as I thought I could just redo the text that was deleted from the previous version, but it didn't work... what I don't get is why the whole section of episodes aired in 2022 gets deleted instead of just the portion that I added? 189.207.39.74 (talk) 18:04, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

I reverted your second attempt, as that also made the pre-existing 2022 information invisible. Maybe someone else can detect the error. David notMD (talk) 20:08, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

WIKIPEDIA PAGE

Hello, I am a musical artist and i wanted to get a wikepedia page about me, what method do u propose ? 41.200.214.141 (talk) 20:48, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Make an account and on your talk page site your works. You can edit your talk pages at any time if you are using the same type of pc as me you can go to the top of your page and click edit DMPenguin (talk) 20:52, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

DMPenguin's suggestion isn't helpful. The reality is that you ideally should have zero control over what an article says about you, and having a Wikipedia article is something many later come to see as a problem. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 21:16, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello IP user. Wikipedia does not have "pages", it has articles, typically written by independent editors unconnected with the subject, in which they summarize what independent reliable sources say about the subject, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of notability- for musicians that is written at WP:BAND. 331dot (talk) 21:24, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

• Hello IP editor and welcome to the Teahouse, we are glad to have you, to add to what my friend and colleague 331dot has already explained to you, please you may find reading WP:FAMOUS to be quite helpful. Celestina007 (talk) 21:51, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Kentucky records

On the list of sec basketball championship records the info about Kentucky is in gross error. 2601:840:8600:81C0:787F:92BB:BFBC:F6A7 (talk) 21:01, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Please direct comments about a specific article to its associated talk page; all articles have a talk page associated with them to discuss any issues related to that article. For example, the talk page for Joe Biden is located at Talk:Joe Biden. If you are using the full desktop version of Wikipedia, there is a link to the talk page at the top of every article.(I don't know how to access it in the mobile version off the top of my head, but others here do). 331dot (talk) 21:22, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Why does /t_S/ and /k/ sound alike? And why is it frequently switched with another? e.g. chicken and kitchen.

Nothing to say here. IloveUveryMuch (talk) 21:54, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

@IloveUveryMuch: Welcome to the Teahouse. I think this question will get better answers at the language reference desk. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:05, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. IloveUveryMuch (talk) 23:30, 13 March 2022 (UTC)