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Please comment on Talk:Eddie Rocket's[edit]

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template 3OR[edit]

I think it works correctly now. Give it a try, and come back to the templates wikiproject if it doesn't, and we'll see if someone smarter than me can figure it out. VanIsaacWScontribs 01:29, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Seems to work! Nice job. Coastside (talk) 06:54, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. VanIsaacWScontribs 07:04, 9 June 2012 (UTC)


Re- your third opinion[edit]

Hi, and thanks for your Third Opinion. I've replied here --92.118.252.49 (talk) 16:05, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. I posted a reply with some clarifying questions. Regards. Coastside (talk) 10:41, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

  • Hi again, I agree with you and have provided further info. Best wishes. --92.118.252.49 (talk) 18:59, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Hi, I agree with your suggestion. There is consensus on my part. All the best.

--92.118.252.49 (talk) 19:17, 15 June 2012 (UTC)


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Many thanks for your assistance and level of professionalism. 92.118.252.49 (talk) 20:29, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
Thank you! Coastside (talk) 22:07, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
No problem. Just a quick question: am I right to assume that it needs to be you who is going to make the additions to the article? I can't anyway because it's semi-protected.

--92.118.252.49 (talk) 22:24, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Suggestion for Prometheus[edit]

thanks, i don't recall if the ship is shown first, or the alien, but your note reads better. Semitransgenic talk. 10:42, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

I haven't seen the movie, but as it reads now it says the two events are happening at the same time anyway. Coastside (talk) 10:47, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

that's all we are trying to say here so all good. Semitransgenic talk. 10:51, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Go[edit]

Ive reverted a couple of your many changes to the Go article, with explanations in the summaries. It seemed you just didn't understand the point of those passages. -Stevertigo (t | c) 07:09, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Regarding semeais, they certainly are challenging. However, unlike situations of life and death, they are not all that common. Running battles are common, battles where two groups are trying to encircle one another, divide one another, even Furikawari, all appear more often in games than semeais. A semeai is a position where the two groups are each completely surrounded, each only have only one eye, and the situation boils down to a mutual race to capture. Look through your record of games (assuming you keep one) and see how hard it is to find a true semeai relative to occurrences of these other Go concepts. Given that, I felt putting semeais in the third paragraph of the Overview made the topic too prominent. I didn't move the topic out of the Overview altogether, I just moved it to the Detail section, along with terms like "ko", which happen much more often than semeais. The original prominent placement of semeais in the article creates an impression for novice readers that semeais occur more commonly than they actually do.
Regarding restoration of the line "The liberties of groups are countable", your argument is that "this introduces two basic and key concepts - counting and relative liberties." As for introducing the basic concept of counting, clearly everyone reading the article knows how to count. Is it really any different in Go? If you are going to say something specific about counting, such as "many Go professionals will count the score after each move in the end game", then that's saying something meaningful. In the context of the article, the phrase "the group with more liberties" implies counting the liberties, i.e., you need to count them to know which has more liberties. Read it again and ask yourself if you were a newbie to Go, would you really need to be told that liberties are countable to understand? You need to put yourself in the readers shoes and ask what a reader would understand and not just think about what concepts you feel are important to explain. As for "relative liberties", I agree that's an important concept, but the sentence "The liberties of groups are countable" doesn't say anything about relative liberties. Again, it is the phrase "the group with more liberties" that says something about relative liberties.
Finally, regarding your comment that it seemed I "just didn't understand the point of those passages", I would caution you to be careful when leaving comments and messages not to make inferences about what people understand. If you focus on the content of the article and make your point, you'll be more likely to avoid inadvertently offending people.
Coastside (talk) 09:36, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Semeais are more common that you think. For example you regard a ko as more common, but every major ko starts out as something that looks like a semeai. Sekis also - what ends up as a seki began as a semeai. Likewise the entire game is fraught with this struggle to capture or be captured. I respect your view and appreciate your thorough explanation, but I believe that it is a mistake to remove the concept of a capturing race from a basic introduction to go. The best Go introductions Ive read use the semeai to illustrate the basic nature of Go as a competition between relatively different liberties and life shapes.
You wrote: As for introducing the basic concept of counting, clearly everyone reading the article knows how to count. Is it really any different in Go? If you are going to say something specific about counting, such as "many Go professionals will count the score after each move in the end game", then that's saying something meaningful. - This is incorrect IMHO. Remember in my revert comment I indicated that there were two concepts introduced - counting and the idea of relative liberties. Of course everyone knows how to count, but not everyone knows what counting means in the context of Go. And by counting I don't mean counting the score, I mean counting in the context of a semeai - a contest of liberties. Again this is a fundamental concept in Go. As for "relative liberties", I agree that's an important concept, but the sentence "The liberties of groups are countable" doesn't say anything about relative liberties. Again, it is the phrase "the group with more liberties" that says something about relative liberties. - But the issue of countability is essential to understanding relative liberties. And the concept of countability is simple enough to understand. Hence the phrase "liberties are countable" acts as a transition - a simple introduction to a more advanced concept.
I apologise for the comment about not understanding the point of certain passages. I did not mean it as an offense, I was simply stating that these passages have a clear and important purpose. I hope my explanations here clear up the meaning of these passages. Regards, -Stevertigo (t | c) 23:23, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

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Template talk:Criminal due process[edit]

Thank you for responding to the third opinion request. If you could please clarify your comments in light of my reply, I won't harass you further. Savidan 01:44, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

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Question[edit]

This certainly is not per WP:AUTO??? :)—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); June 21, 2012; 15:54 (UTC)

Dang. I meant WP:ALSO. Thanks for catching that. Coastside (talk) 16:06, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
Any time :) Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); June 21, 2012; 16:20 (UTC)

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Article editing[edit]

Hi, please can you make the changes to this article, as per consensus? Thanks. --92.118.252.49 (talk) 18:35, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
Done Coastside (talk) 19:21, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, you're a star! --92.118.252.49 (talk) 10:17, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Country rap[edit]

If you place a "dubious" tag, you have to discuss it on the talk page. That's why there's a "discuss" link in the tag. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 21:55, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

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Changes to DRN[edit]

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DRN needs your help![edit]

Hey there Coastside, I noticed you've listed yourself as a volunteer at the dispute resolution noticeboard but you haven't been very active there lately - I was hoping if you had some spare time if you could take a look there and offer some assistance. Thanks again for your help :-) Steven Zhang Help resolve disputes! 11:27, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

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Dispute Resolution RFC[edit]

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Request for comment[edit]

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Era style[edit]

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Dispute resolution volunteer survey[edit]

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Hello Coastside. To follow up on the first survey in April, I am conducting a second survey to learn more about dispute resolution volunteers - their motivations for resolving disputes, the experiences they've had, and their ideas for the future. I would appreciate your thoughts. I hope that with the results of this survey, we will learn how to increase the amount of active, engaged volunteers, and further improve dispute resolution processes. The survey takes around five to ten minutes, and the information you provide will not be shared with third parties other than to assist in analyzing the results of the survey. No personally identifiable information will be released.

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Jabberwocks membership list[edit]

Hi Coastside. I thought you might have a helpful perspective on this: Talk:Jabberwocks w/r/t the deletion of the membership list in the Jabberwocks infobox. Great work building out the article, I just think that particular feature may be unwieldy. Thomas Craven (talk) 19:01, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

DRN organisers[edit]

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DRN needs your help![edit]

Hi there. I've noticed it's been a while since you've been active at DRN, and we could really use your help! DRN is going to undergo some changes soon, so it'd really be great if our backlog is cleared before the start of August and we have as many people on board to help with the changes (they include a move to subpages and the creation of a rotating "co-ordinator" role to help manage things day-to-day. Hope to see you soon! Steven Zhang Help resolve disputes! 11:11, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

The new face of DRN: Coastside[edit]

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Recently the Dispute Resolution Noticeboard underwent some changes in how it operates. Part of the change involved a new list of volunteers with a bit of information about the people behind the names.

You are listed as a volunteer at DRN currently, to update your profile is simple, just click here. Thanks, Cabe6403(TalkSign) 17:07, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Your involvement with DRN[edit]

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Disambiguation link fixing one-day contest[edit]

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