User talk:Dissident93/Archive 7

The Culling Credits

Hi Dissident, in May 2018 it appears that you removed the credits for the entire programming team on The Culling. As someone who worked on that game, I'm curious why you would do that. 99.104.192.42 (talk) 22:18, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Alt text

Yeah, alt text is for people who cannot view images, mostly due to having a visual impairment and browsing using a screen reader. There's some more info on MOS:ALT.--Alexandra IDV^talk 23:13, 7 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I got the gist of it, but never really cared about its real world implications. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 23:49, 7 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Hey Dissident93, why did you delete all the games off of the list of Nintendo Products page? NintendoMario456 (talk) 00:33, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@NintendoMario456: Per my edit summary, there already exists other dedicated lists of Nintendo games. We don't need to repeat the same exact thing (in a worse format) on a single page. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 00:43, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please take this first to the Discussion page on the article. There is no other page for listing games produced by Nintendo. The article is reinstated to a former version for now. ~ DanielFreed ^(talk) 6:57, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Thinking on it, I might just take it to AfD, as it has many issues that nobody has tried to solve (besides me apparently?) in nearly a decade, per the dates in the problem tags. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 09:52, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nier on best OST list?

Hey there,

I've been trying to add Nier (the original) to the list of video game OSTs considered the best.

Unfortunately, I am also absolutely terrible at editing.

I hate to ask this of somebody that I don't know, but as you have far more experience than I do, can you help me edit the article?

Links: https://www.gamesradar.com/the-25-greatest-video-game-soundtracks-of-all-time/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/09/08/the-top-12-video-game-soundtracks-of-all-time/#6f8cd3392186 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:644:8980:FF0:E155:4D8F:3F85:CE41 (talk) 03:14, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@2601:644:8980:FF0:E155:4D8F:3F85:CE41: The GamesRadar source is usable, however the Forbes one is from 2012, and only includes the first Nier. We are in the discussion of having each game to be included in at least three separate to be added to the page, so for now, it shouldn't be. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 03:57, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hal Laboratory copyright

I think you're right. I re-watched the trailer for the Wii U/3DS reveal and it also credited Hal Laboratory (weren't actually involved with the project) but didn't reveal that Bandai Namco and Sora were involved until later in development. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrnsanders1000 (talk • contribs) 03:16, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Jrnsanders1000: I wasn't aware they were credited at all either, but I think for now we should just hold off any development info until further announcements. E3 is only three months away, after all. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 03:34, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Consensus

Hey there. You mentioned there was a consensus against using the VG template for single WW dates. But according to this discussion we had (Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Archive 135#Consensus) there is no consensus regarding A1/A2 and B1/B2. Opinion is almost evenly split. -- Wrath X (talk) 06:02, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

@Wrath X: I see 7 votes for A1 and for 5 A2, meaning there is more people for it than against it. The MOS also states to not do this, which you tried to change but got reverted a while back for. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 20:54, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- But can you really call 7 over 5 a clear consensus? A consensus has to be widespread. Also, I was trying to restore the MOS to its original state; originally it didn't say to remove the VG template for single dates but it was changed without a large discussion. -- Wrath X (talk) 01:51, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

H1Z1 Page Update

Hello Dissident93,

I'm a big fan of H1Z1 - we've actually messaged in the past - and I recently updated the H1Z1 page to include the new Auto Royale launch, free-to-play and other updates. Everything was cited and sourced, but I noticed you removed most of the updates.

Any reason why? I'd really love to see the page be 100% updated and current. Anyway I can do a better job?

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cpetlak (talk • contribs) 20:49, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Cpetlak: Mostly due to WP:UNDUEWEIGHT and the lack of third-party sourcing (you just added update notes from the official website, IIRC). We don't really need an entire new section on Auto Royale if it's 90% the same as the base gamemode, but with the use of vehicles being more prominent. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 22:07, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Steam (software)‎‎

There was nothing incorrect or awkward with what I wrote—why the spazz? Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 09:37, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Curly Turkey: Well I disagreed with your wording, and used the disagreement to better the article. Hopefully you agree? ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 03:08, 27 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- It didn't "improve" the article when you reverted, and whether your subsequent edits did or not (they look to me like they achieve the same thing, but with moar words), targeting someone who discovered and fixed a problem didn't achieve anything positive. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 05:32, 27 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - I didn't see it as anything other than WP:BRD. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 03:10, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Quick list editing

What text editor do you use to remove columns from list pages? List of Instant Game Collection games (PAL region) and List of Instant Game Collection games (PAL region) feature a dedicated Metacritic table that I wish to remove. Thanks. — Niche-gamer 10:51, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page watcher) Visual Editor's table functions include "Delete row" and "Delete column". There's a few kinks but it usually works wonders. (I highly suggest VE for when you want to do rowspan/cellspans too, it has a merge cells that works great.) -- ferret (talk) 10:57, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, this. I wasn't even aware VE had such features, it left such a bad taste in editor's mouths when it was forced upon us at launch that many did not go back and try it. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 20:12, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Niche-gamer: Oh, I also notice that the whole thing is transcluded, meaning that you have to go to their actual pages (List of Instant Game Collection games (PAL region, 2010) if that is why you couldn't get it to work. I'll go ahead and remove them. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 20:15, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your assistance. Had no idea Visual Editor existed. Will come in handy in future no doubt. — Niche-gamer 15:48, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

For day to day editings I much prefer source editing, but VE's table controls are pretty handy. -- ferret (talk) 16:01, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

List of Nintendo products deletion review

You can't link to the discussion because it doesn't exist. The deletion review closed four days ago and the relisted AfD also closed yesterday. Stop reverting to restore the deletion review notice. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 10:07, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DotA's connection to Artifact

I began updating the DotA page to include a mention of Valve's ventures for the I.P., but stopped myself, as I wanted to touch base with you first. I'd propose including a passing mention of it, as it's a further game in the fledgling franchise built around it, but it's two games separated at that point. So, Dota 2 would get 90% precedence, while Artifact would get a minor direct mention. What do you think? DARTHBOTTO_talk•cont 15:40, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@DarthBotto: So the original plan for a series/franchise article was shelved in favor of adding a section to the DotA page? I think that's better (for now), so yeah, go for it. I'll help if needed. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 16:34, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to WikiProject Portals

The Portals WikiProject has been rebooted.

You are invited to join, and participate in the effort to revitalize and improve the Portal system and all the portals in it.

There are sections on the WikiProject page dedicated to tasks (including WikiGnome tasks too), and areas on the talk page for discussing the improvement and automation of the various features of portals.

Many complaints have been lodged in the RfC to delete all portals, pointing out their various problems. They say that many portals are not maintained, or have fallen out of date, are useless, etc. Many of the !votes indicate that the editors who posted them simply don't believe in the potential of portals anymore.

It's time to change all that. Let's give them reasons to believe in portals, by revitalizing them.

The best response to a deletion nomination is to fix the page that was nominated. The further underway the effort is to improve portals by the time the RfC has run its course, the more of the reasons against portals will no longer apply. RfCs typically run 30 days. There are 19 days left in this one. Let's see how many portals we can update and improve before the RfC is closed, and beyond.

A healthy WikiProject dedicated to supporting and maintaining portals may be the strongest argument of all not to delete.

We may even surprise ourselves and exceed all expectations. Who knows what we will be able to accomplish in what may become the biggest Wikicollaboration in years.

Let's do this.

See ya at the WikiProject!

Sincerely, — The Transhumanist 10:20, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Merger discussion for Tomba!

An article that you have been involved in editing—Tomba! —has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Cat's Tuxedo (talk) 05:11, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A page you started (Dota Pro Circuit) has been reviewed!

Thanks for creating Dota Pro Circuit, Dissident93!

Wikipedia editor Barkeep49 just reviewed your page, and wrote this note for you:

It seems like you had originally felt this would work better as a redirect but have now been contributing to it. In my WP:NPP it seems like it meetings notability and so I am marking as reviewed. If you still think it should be a redirect I would encourage you to open a discussion on the talk page.

To reply, leave a comment on Barkeep49's talk page.

Learn more about page curation.

Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 20:03, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Guice

Just wanted to say you guys got a steal with Derrius Guice. When he's healthy he's unstoppable. He and Fournette rewrote LSU's record book. Lizard (talk) 00:38, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Lizard the Wizard: I'm glad too. There were discussions about taking him with the 13th pick, and to get him in the 2nd after trading back and getting back a 3rd we lost in the Smith trade was really nice and potentially one of the draft's best moves. I personally don't believe in the draft day rumors that seemed to cause him to slide, but even if they are true, then the risk was still worth it as Perine and Kelley were just not consistently productive and often failed to pick up easy 3rd and short yardage to help out Kirk, something Guice should do easily. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 02:38, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I can only compare his running to Marshawn Lynch, very angry and purposeful. He may even have more breakaway speed than Lynch. If he gets healthy and back to his 2016 form, the sky is the limit. Lizard (talk) 02:51, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Welp. Lizard (talk) 21:50, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Should be expected at this point, really. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 02:39, 17 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Meast

Do you remember when Sean Taylor played, and if so, was "Meast" a nickname that was used very often? I'm of the opinion that a nickname should only be in the lead in bold if it was used practically interchangeably with the person's real name (The Bambino, The Juice, Dr. J); I feel like this isn't the case here. A google search of just "Meast" turns up very little related to Taylor, which is telling, since it's such a unique term. Lizard (talk) 06:58, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Lizard the Wizard: I do, and I remember the term being used more by the fans than the media (almost exclusively), which explains why it doesn't have much, if any, coverage. So as for it being added, it could probably belong in a subsection, but not in the lead and certainly not bolded. Random related trivia, but in his final year of 2007, him and LaRon Landry were dubbed Area 51, coming from their position and their jersey numbers (21 and 30), with the idea that the opposing team would never be able to go in that area without repercussions. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 22:19, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Cool, thanks. Yeah I remember Landry lighting guys up while at LSU. Anyone throwing over the middle against the Redskins back then were basically putting their receivers' lives in danger. P.S. I didn't get that ping because pinging doesn't work unless it's accompanied by a new signature; it can't be added onto an old comment. Lizard (talk) 00:37, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Lizard the Wizard: Really wish they would fix that, no reason why it shouldn't work anytime it's corrected formatted, no matter if a signature exists or not. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 21:19, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Bloodborne Miscellaneous

Though the edit on Lovecraft influence may be obvious to someone who has played the game and knows at least something about Lovecraft, isn't this the platform to clearly describe things? Even if the information is sometimes considered obvious?Kipras Is Present (talk) 15:24, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Kipras Is Present: Well, the way it was just tacked on the existing sentence was awkward. It should be written differently if it has to be added, in my opinion. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 21:02, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sushi the way of sushido

As I showed before, the copyright says that it's being co-developed by indieszero and that means that EPD is making it when it's their only internal division making games and they credit other studios in their copyright even if owned by them.

https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/sushi-striker-the-way-of-sushido-3ds ©2017 Nintendo. Co-Developed by indieszero Co.,Ltd. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boyohboy231 (talk • contribs) 21:44, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Boyohboy231: Just wait until the game releases and the credits can be traced back to EPD, because I've seen Nintendo list themselves while the actual developer was another studio of theirs. (with Mario Party: Star Rush, the site still listed "Nintendo" as a developer until the game released, which then changed to Nd Cube.) ~ Dissident93 ^(talk)

Best selling games of all time

Hi I know this is random, but I'm the guy who spoke to you about Sega Rally & Outrun on games considered best. I'm asking if you can change PES sales on the best selling franchises of all time page. I want to do it myself but for some weird reason it blocks me. I see you around on a lot of VG pages so I thought I could ask you. Here's my source that updates it sales.

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2018/04/26/pes-game-sales-hit-100-million-new-competition-launched/ 108.185.187.63 2605:E000:6300:8300:D18E:4566:44D9:5F55 (talk) 22:24, 17 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@2605:E000:6300:8300:D18E:4566:44D9:5F55: Done ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 00:03, 18 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What's with the refusal to accept that a citation is a citation????

Why would you revert the addition of a citation with edit? Did you not understand that the little superscript "[1]" gives you access to a footnote? Do you not know how to click in a Digital object identifier link? What's the problem? Sminthopsis84 (talk) 07:05, 19 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Sminthopsis84: Unsure why you would use a citation with this format over just listing the URL, but that still doesn't change the fact that it's only a single citation that you are forcing to prove your point. If it's such a common term, then clearly it would have more coverage of it than a single page? ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 21:14, 19 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reverting an edit because you don't know how to use citations is vandalism. This is actually a life-and-death matter; I was asked to see if I could clarify wikipedia by someone who is deathly ill and wanted to understand what his doctor was saying. In fact, the whole area of medical terms needs considerable work and won't be polished in an instant, but it is time for you to stop messing about with parts of wikipedia that you don't understand, and let other volunteer editors get the necessary work done. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 21:49, 19 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Sminthopsis84: I have over 68,000 edits, putting me in the top 1,000 most active English editors of all time, and I've never seen a citation with this format (is this only relevant in medical fields? Because I don't edit them). But that's beside the point, the issue is you throwing around accusations, forcing apparently rare alternative names into articles by claiming they are "needed". And this story of yours could just be a lie, but even if it's not, I'm still taking Wikipedia policies over it, no offense. (because if not, then anybody could use a sob story as an excuse to step around policies). ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 21:54, 19 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Addendum re Sonic Mania

Plus, WP:COMMONNAME is specifically our article titling policy. Nobody's arguing that if this artist ever had an article, it would be titled "Tee Lopes". Ben · Salvidrim! ✉ 03:07, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Salvidrim!: Common name is used for people's inclusion in prose as well. You are changing it because one source mentioned his full name, when the game, soundtrack, and most other articles don't. Also I'm not sure what this other accusation about me preferring aliases in the infobox is. Could you link to it? Aliases/shorthand/nicknames should be used only if they are the common name, which is the case here, something even you agreed with with the potential article title. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 03:53, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Think of a potential article -- the title would be "Tee Lopes" per WP:COMMONNAME but the infobox and lede would include his actual name (with source). I think that's pretty obvious. I'm advocating the same thing here -- mention his full sourced name at least once even if most mentions use his pseudonym. Infobox in this case can be Tee Lopes if you feel strongly about it, I'm just surprised since you argued that aliases should not be in infoboxes before ("I thought we try to avoid aliases in the infobox") but I maintain that the real name should be mentioned in prose at least once with the Verge source, just like the real name would be mentioned in the lede of an article about him. Ben · Salvidrim! ✉ 04:03, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - Drive-by comment: I'm backing Dissident here. We would refer to Bill Clinton in prose, not William Jefferson Clinton; the only proper place to spell out the name in full is the lead of the Bill Clinton article. Otherwise we go with the common name. Popcornduff (talk) 04:06, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    - But if Bill Clinton did not have an article to include explanations inside, wouldn't your first mention of him elsewhere be his real name and not his nickname? I dunno. Maybe I'm wrong. Just feels weird to talk about someone without using their name. You don't mention Arin Hanson in other articles solely by his pseudonym Egoraptor without context. Hirokazu Tanaka is usually credited under his pseudonym Hip Tanaka but we still use his real name in infoboxes and articles about games he's worked on. I dunno...Ben · Salvidrim! ✉ 04:19, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      - @Salvidrim!: There are a few things to comment on. One, for something like Egoraptor, I think it makes sense to list their real name in prose at least once per article, as pseudonyms are different to shorthand/nicknames that are used in real life; it's unlikely he's called Egoraptor by his family and close friends, unlike Tee (short for Tiago). And as for the Hip Tanaka example, while I think that's a more relevant example to bring up, the problem is in some games he is credited under his full name, while others are under a variation of Hip/Chip Tanaka. So do either precedence (because we can't claim there is a clear common name at use) or would we just go whatever each game used, ignoring cross-article consistency in the process? For the second suggestion, what do we do if sources use on his real name in articles, while in-game/soundtracks used Hip/Chip? I feel like this is more of an issue for people who don't have articles, like Lopes, because their real name isn't stated anywhere we could link back to if ever relevant. Also, about the Elmobo example, I still don't know if that's the ideal way or not. Do sources include that when mentioning his role in the game, or was that an in-game example only? For the latter, I'd say we just remove it because it can't be proven to be his common name. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 07:04, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
        I would 100% refer to Egoraptor as Egoraptor if that's what most of the sources did too. It's the equivalent of a stage name. For example, we write Flea, not Michael Peter "Flea" Balzary. Popcornduff (talk) 07:11, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
        I would too, but I've often seen prose such as "Arin Hanson, better known as Egoraptor" and never thought it had to be removed. Either way, this doesn't really pertain to Lopes' case, which is more of a Bill Clinton situation. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 07:21, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
        I guess I'll just conclude that my opinion is wrong in this case and move on. Sorry for the bother and thanks for the reasonable talking through. :) Ben · Salvidrim! ✉ 20:35, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Question regarding a revision of yours

Regarding this revision, why is using the video game release template and specifying that it was released worldwide not necessary? Interqwark ^{talk contribs} 23:16, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Interqwark: Recent consensus that now states "Only use WW to provide clarity where a game has various differing release dates including multiple regional release dates on some platforms and worldwide on other platforms." per the infobox documentation. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 23:18, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

All right. So, a date without a specified region means it was released worldwide. Thanks! Interqwark ^{talk contribs} 23:22, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Interqwark: Yep. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 23:51, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much

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...

The next time you try to correct a page/someone, please don't write "terrible writing". Think of a nicer way to say something to correct someone instead of publicly offending them. Mirrorthesoul (talk) 23:46, 27 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I concur – Wikipedia:Civility. Interqwark ^{talk contribs} 08:37, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Best selling games of all time

Hey it's me again. I was watching this and 25 seconds in it says FIFA has sold 150 million worldwide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRzPSxRHlN4

Do you think a youtube source is good? Seems kind of strange, but the channel itself is the official US Soccer channel, so it's not like its a fan statement.69.108.65.150 (talk) 05:21, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@69.108.65.150: Well, how exactly would they, a non-video gaming organization, really come by this information? I feel like if this is public info from EA, then there should exist a better source somewhere else. I personally wouldn't use this as justification to add to the list (even thought they aren't just a random person claiming it), but it is something that should be kept in mind. Also, I think posting this on the list's talk page is better, as you are likely to get other opinions which may contrast with mine. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 06:20, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding your Ni no Kuni II: Revenant Kingdom revision

Regarding this revision of yours, sales information does not belong in a paragraph purely about the game’s story and gameplay.

Also, what makes DSOgaming an unreliable source? Interqwark ^{talk contribs} 08:37, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Interqwark: Why do you think the paragraph is inclusive to gameplay? Even if that were true, then simply add it elsewhere in the lead or start a new paragraph. And DSOgaming is considered unreliable per WP:VG/S. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 08:42, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The paragraph is short and only briefly mentions the game’s story and gameplay. Sales information feels out of place there. There’s no need to mention everything in the lead section. It doesn’t have to be mentioned there.

And thanks. I didn’t know about WP:VG/S and similar pages. Interqwark ^{talk contribs} 08:45, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Interqwark: The ideal situation here is to expand the lead, which is meant to summarize the article. I fail to see how removing a notable fact about the game helps with that. The article itself needs info about reception, which would then feed back into the lead, making sales info stand out less. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 08:48, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It would, indeed, be a good idea to expand the short lead section. For now, I’ve moved the sentence about the copies sold to the first paragraph.

By the way, {{ping}} only works when you also include your signature (~~~~) in the same revision. Interqwark ^{talk contribs} 08:53, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

“Not pictured”

Regarding your revision on Pokémon X and Y, where was this discussed?

Also, I’m fairly certain that Nintendo co-publishes the main Pokémon titles. Interqwark ^{talk contribs} 02:29, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Their financial documents stated that they were not the publishers of the Pokemon games, at least they did around a year ago when I last checked. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 05:14, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

All right.

Again, regarding the cover art caption, where was this discussed? I don’t see the problem with including a brief description of the cover art for the other game as the article is about both games. While both cover arts don’t have to be pictured, why can’t the other one be described in a short sentence in the caption? Interqwark ^{talk contribs} 05:27, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Can't remember where, but it was just a common sense guideline about not captioning things that the image doesn't actually show. If it's actually needed, it could probably be put into a note or something. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk)

Okay. I will not re-add the part of the caption, but I would like to read this guideline (not because I don’t believe you but because I would like to know more about what this guideline entails, ferret).

It does make sense that the caption shouldn’t describe what’s not in the image itself, but I think that it would be worth mentioning what Pokémon appears on the artwork for Pokémon Y since the article is about both games and since both Legendary Pokémon on the cover art for both games are big parts of the games and the biggest differences between them. Interqwark ^{talk contribs} 05:36, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Interqwark: MOS:CAPTION. The fourth bullet about being succinct would probably apply as far as "only describing whats in the image". -- ferret (talk) 11:26, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@ferret: All right. Thanks for the link.

I’m not sure where you would put the description of the other cover if not in the caption, though. The main Pokémon RPGs are unique in that an article about a main Pokémon RPG is about two games that are identical with only a few differences, the biggest of which being the exclusive Legendary Pokémon to each game, which appears on the cover. Wouldn’t it be fine to mention what Pokémon appears on the other game’s cover on the articles about the core Pokémon titles? Interqwark ^{talk contribs} 11:29, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

In prose, yes; in the infobox, no. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 02:36, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

All right. Thanks! Interqwark ^{talk contribs} 14:04, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Title

I seem to recall us discussing this at one point... I put together an essay explaining this, as it's something I change a lot: Wikipedia:The problem with elegant variation Any feedback appreciated. Popcornduff (talk) 05:53, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kazuya Mishima

I added a "further reading" about Kazuya Mishima to the article some time ago. Do you think it's worth adding to the reception? Also, while the section is full "top ten" is it okay to keep them if they provide information regarding impact of the character (while removing the typical "he was voted as the 4312414th best move)? Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 21:15, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Depends. I've always thought that "further reading" links should be actual citations in prose. But if for some reason that isn't viable, then yeah it's fine. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 02:35, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Dark Souls revisions

Regarding this revision of yours on Dark Souls, I created a post about it on the article’s talk page to, hopefully, reach a consensus.

Regarding this revision, why do you not think it’s worth mentioning that the Prepare To Die Edition is Dark Souls’ first time on PC?

Regarding this revision, linking to a section in the same article is fine and used in many articles. See MOS:SL. I mentioned this in an edit summary last month. Interqwark ^{talk contribs} 21:12, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Because it's trivial. The prose should speak for itself without being told non-important facts like this. Else, we'd have to have the same "first time being on the platform" for every new platform it's released on for consistency (which would be 3 for the Remastered games). ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 22:07, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough, it's just not really a common thing you see on other articles. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 22:07, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Souls (series) undo

Regarding your revision on Souls (series), {{Distinguish}} is used when the difference between the names is so obvious that no explanation needed. Anyone looking for Soulcalibur won’t need the descriptor that it’s a fighting game. I think that {{Distinguish}} is more consise and not as superfluous in this case.

From Template:Distinguish’s template documentation: This template is used in the cases where the distinction between the titles is so obvious that the reader needs no further explanation. Interqwark ^{talk contribs} 14:03, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Interqwark: Well, the series (for a long time) used to be at Soul (series), which made the likelihood of confusing way more likely. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 22:05, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I didn’t know that the article used to call it “the Soul series.” In that case, it makes sense to use {{For}}. Interqwark ^{talk contribs} 06:51, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, it even stayed that way after the Souls series article was made, but I guess it was changed because nobody actually called it that. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 23:00, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Spyro Reignited Trilogy cover art

Regarding your revision on Spyro Reignited Trilogy, that is the official cover art, as far as I can tell. This is the cover art used on the official website.^[1] Interqwark ^{talk contribs} 23:36, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Interqwark: According to their most recent Twitter post, it's going to be this. The one you linked to was always going to be a placeholder. I would upload this myself, but the non-free image rules on Wikipedia are too strict and I'm sure I'd mess it up somehow, so I usually just point out and have somebody else more familiar with the process do it. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 23:49, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I didn’t know.

That cover art is beautiful; much better than the placeholder! Interqwark ^{talk contribs} 23:51, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I’ve uploaded and replaced the image with File:Spyro Reignited Trilogy.png on Spyro Reignited Trilogy. Interqwark ^{talk contribs} 00:02, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Sinking City

just letting you know I've removed the redirect and replaced it with content :). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mayamaya7 (talk • contribs) 02:33, 10 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Question about your revision on Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

Regarding your revision on Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, the article’s title is Electronic Entertainment Expo 2018. “E3 2018” is merely the abbreviation. It’s common practice to use the full name of something the first time it’s mentioned in an article.

Also, like I said, the “References” and “Notes” sections should be separated, not one section called “References.” The game’s Japanese title is not a reference. Articles are written for a general audience who aren’t experts on the subject. It might be better to use the full name so that anyone reading the article knows that E3 2018 is an expo related to electronic entertainment. Interqwark ^{talk contribs} 18:46, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The article's title is that because of some weird formality when Wikipedia was first created. The common name is E3, and there is already a discussion about moving this at WT:VG. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 20:51, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

People don’t seem to agree with you in your discussion. I also created a discussion about this last month, but Masem disagreed with me. Interqwark ^{talk contribs} 20:55, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There have only been two disagreements so far, that is not consensus. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 20:56, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

True, but I think that we should leave it as “E3 *year*” in articles for now, until a consensus is made to move all the E3 articles. Interqwark ^{talk contribs} 20:57, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Possibility on getting Super Mario Odyssey up to FA?

Hello. Given that we've worked on Mario articles before, I'm thinking about bringing Super Mario Odyssey about getting it up to GA/FA status and at the very least get it up to TFA on October 27, 2018, the first anniversary of its release. Care to join forces? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 22:25, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Sjones23: I can assist with editing the article sure, if that's what you mean. I really don't prefer to just "review" them though, as that's a waste of time for actually improving the article. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 22:28, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Question about your revision on Super Mario Party

Hi, Dissident93. Why did you remove numerous red links from the Super Mario Party article? Wikipedia:Red link says not to remove red links from articles unless you’re certain that Wikipedia shouldn’t have an article on that subject. Those enemies might and probably should be added to the List of recurring Mario franchise enemies article, and Wikipedia should probably also have an article about Nintendo Wire. Interqwark ^{talk contribs} 11:07, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WP:REDNO also says "Do not create red links to articles that are not likely to be created and retained in Wikipedia". If redirects are ever made, then they can easily be re-added. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 19:02, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ROG Phone

Hi, I'm kind of annoying but do you know how to upload non free image about phone if yes, can you do on the ROG Phone, Thank you. MayaZ使字斯^Poke! 09:15 PM, 20 June 2018

@Mayamaya7: I'm sure it's possible but as I never tried it, I can't really help you with this if that's your only option. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 21:47, 20 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Page protection on Pokémon Quest and List of Nintendo Switch games.

Could you request for page protection on unconfirmed users. I want it to stop because one anonymous user used the release date of June 27th and not the 28th, AND redeemed it as 'not the right information' without doing some research! Zacharyalejandro (talk) 23:03, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page watcher) Not nearly enough disruption to warrant protection, and the list in particular is edited by good faith anonymous users on a regular basis. -- ferret (talk) 23:25, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Zacharyalejandro: Also, I'm not an admin or have any sort of page protection abilities, so ask at WT:VG for these sort of things.

WP:RFPP. Interqwark ^{talk contribs} 07:30, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WP:BANREVERT and indefinitely blocked User:Mayamaya7

Please read the very policy I mentioned in my edit summary and in the title of this talk message. Aforementioned user has a history of creating articles with no WP:RS and not WP:NOTABLE subjects, including numerous non-notable video games. User also has a history of recreating articles, against WP:CONSENSUS previously determined to be non-notable via discussion or WP:AFD.R9tgokunks ⯃ 03:50, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@R9tgokunks: Right, but if the article was valid, then how does just deleting help Wikipedia at all? I'd have to disagree with the no-tolerance policy there. However, I would agree that the game does not seem to be that notable, and would only be a stub if cleaned up. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 03:54, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I should also add, it applies especially due to the user being a WP:SOCKPUPPET, making these edits in spite of a ban on their primary account, which gives more credence to use of WP:BANREVERT. I looked at all the sources and I didn't see how it was notable. WP:VERIFIABILITY and WP:NOTABLE warrant significant coverage of a topic, and many of those sources were from dubious sites in terms of professionality or WP:Reliability. R9tgokunks ⯃ 03:58, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
We also have Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Sources as a reference in many of those instances. R9tgokunks ⯃ 04:00, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keiki Kobayashi

I figured since it's been 2 years since this discussion and with the announcement that he's doing Ace Combat 7 (which I'm super hyped for) that there'd be more sources on him now to support an article. But surprisingly there's almost nothing more now than what there was then. I did find this and this though not sure how reliable. Lizard (talk) 13:29, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Lizard the Wizard: Personally, I don't see enough independent coverage to have an article on him. Perhaps if you could find a biography of his, which would help the article expand beyond just a list of games he has worked on, then I could try to make it. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 19:46, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nah. Just wanted to remark on it is all. Lizard (talk) 23:41, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Link for the financial report of Nintendo about Pokémon Company

hey, when you have time and you find it, send it here. I'm pretty curious to see the document. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boyohboy231 (talk • contribs) 18:24, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Boyohboy231: Yeah, I've been looking but can't seem to find the exact document(s). In the meantime, would you be willing compromise by only having Nintendo as the publisher on the Game Freak page? Because whatever the case, it's highly unlikely a game would ever need two publishers in a single region. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 19:20, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
EDIT: On their latest "Supplementary Information Earnings Release" document, POKKÉN TOURNAMENT DX is listed with an asterisk noting that it's "published by The Pokémon Company", but only in the Japanese region, so it seems I was mistaken thinking it was worldwide. The other Pokemon games listed (Pokémon Ultra Sun/Moon and the then-untitled one for the Switch) do not have any of this, meaning Nintendo publishes them worldwide? It's confusing, but I think it's safe to say that Nintendo publishes all of them outside of Japan at least, which makes sense, given that Nintendo has way more ability to do so. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 19:32, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

About Nintendo and TPC

So, with that definied, I think that we should put Nintendo as the publisher WW and Pokémon Company in Japan in all Pokémon games on console after the creation of the company. What do you think about it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boyohboy231 (talk • contribs) 02:25, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Boyohboy231: I checked the Japanese report, and it also only lists Pokken Tournment DX as being published by TPC. So if anything, I'd just place Nintendo as the publisher for all the Pokemon games, while we figure out which of them were published by TPC (in Japan). I can crawl through older investor reports and compile a list, if needed. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 09:10, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Dissident93: I mean, you can check media create and The Pokémon Company is always credited as the publisher instead of Nintendo. I think it's fair to put them as the publisher in Japan and Nintendo worldwide.
- @Boyohboy231: I don't because they only mentioned one game as being published by TPC in Japan. The other Pokemon games listed did not have, meaning Nintendo should have published them in Japan too. TPC being a regional publisher should the the exception to the rule that needs to be verified, and not something we should assume and add to every page. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 02:47, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - @Dissident93: Let's go is also mentioned as a Pokémon Company japanese release, just like the others which you can also see in their official japanese websites. http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/pika_vee/

Translate via google translate, it's like that for the title in Japan and also for every other Pokémon release.

Release Pokemon Co., Ltd.

Sale Nintendo Co., Ltd

Production Game freak Corporation

So, Nintendo distribute the title on Japan while TPC handles the publishing

between this, it's also mentioned in Nintendo World report: "The most obvious thing besides providing the consoles is the publisher outside of Japan (Pokémon Company is the publisher in Japan) and handling distribution of the titles. "http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/feature/41153/who-owns-that-pokemon

And like I said before, it's also mentioned in media-create sales: [3DS] Pokemon Ultra Sun / Ultra Moon (The Pokemon Company, 11/17/17) – 3,850 (1,653,093) https://gematsu.com/2018/06/media-create-sales-6-18-18-6-24-18#1R19qWc1kcgdWAuJ.99

So I think that it's worth to do that since it represents the actual situation. Just putting Nintendo or TPC isn't right when both companies handle the title in different regions.

Ringed City Midir

Hi again, Dissident93. On the ringed city article, I don't think the "that the official Dark Souls Twitter account said was designed to be the ultimate challenge for Souls players" needs to be a third party source. I didn't write "Midir is the ultimate challenge", I just put that there was something basically like a press release calling it that. It's like citing an artist saying a song on his album is his favorite. I don't see the problem with it, personally. CelestialWeevil ^(talk) 14:55, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@CelestialWeevil: Wikipedia prefers claims like this to be from external third-parties, or else we could add any promotional and exaggerated cruft coming from first-party sources as facts. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 02:46, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, thanks. CelestialWeevil ^(talk) 02:58, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Sinking City wikipedia page

Hi Sir. Could you please explain why you deleted this game wikipedia page? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Sinking_City&action=history Let me know if you agree to undo your deletion and let me work on improving the page with the info we have. Andresrapal (talk) 09:34, 4 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Same query posted and answered on help desk Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:25, 4 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Andresrapal: Another user redirected the page first, I just so happened to agree with the move after checking the article again. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 21:30, 4 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding composers in BotW

I personally think some sort of sourcing is going to be needed. I don't doubt the veracity of this information, but the vgmonline source only lists the composers for this particular game; tying the composers to their work in other games is original research unless another secondary source can be found.

Unless, of course, WP:VG policy allows game credits to be automatically applied as sources, which would be fine then. But I'm not aware of any such policy. --haha169 (talk) 22:16, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Haha169: Although not preferred, WP:VG policy allows the game to source itself as long as it is not technical or critical in nature. This is used mainly for plot details, but objective facts such as who is credited in them are counted as well. Like I said before, I can try and find a third-party source that states as such, but I don't really agree with calling it "original research" as the games themselves hold this info. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 14:51, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined: Operation Flagship

Hello Dissident93. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Operation Flagship, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: if it should be merged, then do it, don't tag for speedy deletion. Thank you. So Why 09:53, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That was just a suggestion... This article would clearly fail an AfD vote, so why take bureaucratic policies over logic? ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 15:08, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Question about adding into the Battlegrounds PUBG wiki on behalf of PUBG Mobile

Hey man,

So I was wondering if you can help me add some more information for PUBG BATTLEGROUNDS WIKI. I actually work for tencent and the 'big bosses' want me to add more into the OTHER PLATFORMS part of the wiki. If you could help me out I would super appreciate it. Thanks

Other platforms (NEW VERSION) Following the Chinese publication deal for the Windows version, Tencent Games and PUBG Corporation additionally announced that they were planning on releasing two mobile versions based on the game in the country.[69][70] "We chose to work with Tencent and their development studios because of their long-running history of high-quality mobile games and the level of love and support they put into their titles." said Chang Han Kim, CEO of PUBG Corp (reference 1). The first, PUBG: Exhilarating Battlefield, is an abridged version of the original game, and was developed by Lightspeed & Quantum Studio, an internal division of Tencent Games.[71] The second, PUBG: Army Attack, includes more arcade-style elements, including action taking place on warships, and was developed by Tencent's Timi Studio.[72] Both versions are free-to-play, and were released for Android and iOS devices on February 9, 2018.[73][74] The games had a combined total of 75 million pre-registrations, and ranked first and second on the Chinese iOS download charts at launch.[74] Following a soft launch in Canada, an English version of Exhilarating Battlefield known as PUBG Mobile, was released worldwide on March 19, 2018.[75][76][77] It only took PUBG MOBILE less than a week to become one of the fastest games to reach number 1 in downloads in over 100 countries and areas. PUBG Corporation and Tencent worked in tandem to create an authentic and satisfying PUBG experience on what has become the most accessible platform. Providing a well-optimized experience for all players remains a core value for the developers as they continue to release the handheld rendition of the popular Battle Royale game.(reference 2). Recently there is the inclusion of monetization in the form of purchasable outfits and weapon skins. The game has been nominated for “Best Breakthrough Hit” and “Best Community Building Game” at the 2018 Google Play Awards, and was the only game nominated for two awards.

Reference: http://www.pubgmobile.com/en-US/news_detail/webplat/info/news_version3/35372/35373/35374/35386/35408/m20497/201805/720234.shtml

Reference 2 http://www.pubgmobile.com/en-US/news_detail/webplat/info/news_version3/35372/35373/35374/35386/m20497/201805/720235.shtml — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heylookasign (talk • contribs) 09:40, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A lot of this is biased to be in favor of your position, so it has to be re-written to be more neutral (preferably using third-party sources too). I'll see what I can do. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 08:45, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The International 2017

Hi Dissident,

I thought I'd make you aware (Becaus Legobot hates me), that I've started a review of the following. I'm placing it on hold, for some feedback on the issue I've raised on the WP:GA. If you already knew (Watchlisted), please ignore this message. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:45, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you delete my content?

Well , you said my edit on Minecraft is not a reliable source, but not! Baidu is a RELIABLE Chinese company, Baidu pedia to! And 07073 is reliable too, Netease isn’t fake too!

Please reply. Thx;) CaibsSAM (talk) 03:31, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi CaibsSAM - Sorry to jump in on this one, but I noticed this comment when reviewing a GA. You need to add reliable sourcing when making claims. This user removed the claims, as the sources are unlikely to be reliable. I'd argue that potentially the 07073 may be reliable, but I'd need to check out the source in more detail. The other source seems like a directory; which are very rarely relaible. Something like MobyGames is a source, but not reliable, for the same reason.

You are better off in these cases, commenting on the talk page of the article in question, and not taking it to someone's userpage. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 09:11, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@CaibsSAM: They very well may be, but how come there are no English sources that state the same things? They are preferred, if they exist. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 16:32, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Help about Bandai Namco Holdings

Hey man, I wonder if you could help me to update Bandai Namco Holdings article. It's pretty outdated since the company had an reorganization and what is there is pretty old since it's the old organization chart model. The new one is this just in case: https://www.bandainamco.co.jp/en/about/grouplink.html

I could try, but personally I don't think we need to include organizational charts if the official website has it.

File:RE2 remake PS4 cover art.png

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About Resident Evil 2

You are absolutely right about English sources. Unfortunately I could not find them. In the 1990s, it was unlikely that such news about video games would make any noise out from Italy, excluding the national territory that was obviously the area affected. On the other hand, Repubblica is one of the most important newspapers of Italy and one of the first (if not the first) Italian newspaper to go online in 1998 and to deal with video games in a generalist way. While Lega Nerd has collaborated several times with Multiplayer.it, the most important Italian video game site.

At first glance I thought the edit would not be welcome. Thank you for correcting where it was needed. Lone Internaut (talk) 18:22, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Old School RS

The reference I provided is third-party, and in fact is still provided elsewhere on the page (which I used the same reference for, <ref name="misplaceditems"/>, which you reinstated in a consequent edit) on the thumbnail of player activity. The "be assisted in killing monsters" is also a vital part of the game mode and doesn't need external proof any more than the rest of the paragraph, so I'm not sure why that was removed. --laagone ^(talk) 18:35, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Laagone: Well, from what I've seen it's a graph that has no official support by Jagex or any real editorial oversight, so can it actually be used in any capacity in the article? As for the killing monsters stuff, that wasn't supposed to be reverted (I just used the version before you edited, because it seems like I missed other stuff on the first revert).~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 19:02, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I imagined it would be credible enough as it does explain how it gets the data (and so far, it has been accurate when compared to numbers found on the game's site and elsewhere), nonetheless I found an employee tweet that tells some of the same story. --laagone ^(talk) 19:28, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Laagone: Well of course people working on the project are going to claim its reliable, I'd just like another neutral source that verifies the same info, like the Rolling Stone article does. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 00:00, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As of 2018

The neat thing about the {{as of}} template that I added is that it adds the article to maintenance categories reminding people to check date-specific info and update it later if needs be. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:43, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@SarekOfVulcan: I'm aware, but I personally don't feel like it's necessary because either the game gets new Pokemon added so frequently that a template isn't needed to alert anybody, or they rarely get added so the template would still state August months later. I just partially re-wrote the section with some context it was lacking, hopefully you feel like its an improvement as well. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 18:47, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Useful information, at the very least. :-) --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:49, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The official PUGB (PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds) World Championship sponsored by developer company Bluehole

Can you create an article for PUBG Global Invitational which featured a 2 million dollars tournament prize pool, see [2][3]. You can get some information from [4], [5] and [6]. The PUBG Global Invitational was the largest tournament for PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds. It was sponsored by its developer and publisher, and had a 2 million dollars tournament prize pool.

These aren't reliable sources (WP:VG/RS), so if these are the only articles that reported on the event, then we shouldn't make an article on it. And besides, unless there is plenty of coverage on it, it could just be a section on the main PUBG article for now. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 18:46, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

About "Increase"

Not a financial thing, but in here, it's not told to be used exclusively on financial things or context. Flexibility in using some expedients is good. Lone Internaut (talk) 21:04, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Lone Internaut: Right, but this should probably be discussed because it's not used in other articles with viewership counts, at least that is what I saw the last I checked. Having it there makes it seem more like a competition when it's really not competing with last year's at all. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 21:44, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I worked on Electronic Entertainment Expo and Gamescom articles. In the first I used "Increase", in the latter it was used way before I contributed on it. I understand concerns about competition but after all, we are talking about the same event (which can be E3, Gamescom, Game Awards), just increasing or decreasing its own viewership on annual edition basis. I just liked the idea of using it, not to make a competition thing out of it, just saying. If you really think it can hurt an article's integrity, forget about it, doesn't matter. Lone Internaut (talk) 22:21, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	Hey Dissident93, I just wanted to thank you for all of your hard work on the Ace Combat-related articles. Not many people edit them, so I'm glad we have you working on them since you seem to know your Wikipedia stuff :D ~SlyCooperFan1 02:12, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

PSG.LGD Gaming

Hey there, maybe you can help.

PSG and LGD are two completely separate orgs. I am wondering why there is not stand alone LGD page?

Also, PSG.LGD does not have a Legends Team, so why is there one listed on the PSG.LGD page?

The logo is wrong.

Can you help make it accurate? — Preceding unsigned comment added by LGDGamingFan (talk • contribs) 02:07, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@LGDGamingFan: See the article's talk page, which never had a conclusion. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 16:08, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There is no football in march, but...

It is the month that some players signed with their new teams or were announced as starters.

I'm aware, however the date is supposed to be their first start, not when they were signed. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 17:26, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Then the verbiage should read "Date of first start", not "Starter since" to support it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.144.188.83 (talk) 17:31, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The list already explains "Starter since" refers to the start date of a quarterback's current starter streak. (regular season only)", so I don't see the need. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 17:33, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Expanded vs. autocollapsed templates

Hello Dissident,

I think we've crossed the streams on this before in dueling edits, so I figured I'd check in on this. You once-again removed the state=expanded from a template on Fire Emblem Heroes, and I seem to recall you doing that elsewhere. Why? Basically no readers ever expand collapsed templates. You almost might as well not include them - it was something added because people were adding 8 huge templates to the end of articles and massively bloating them. Having actually relevant, small templates forcibly expanded is perfectly fine and a good move for usability. Well, that's my two cents at least, and it is an option that exists for a reason. Does that sound reasonable/fair? (Can always take this to a wider discussion, worst comes to worst.) SnowFire (talk) 21:38, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@SnowFire: I usually remove them because state=autocollapse ideally handles this sort of thing most of the time. However, if guidelines permit it for your reasoning, then I was wrong to remove it. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 23:37, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sensor Tower Wikipedia Page

Hi Dissident93, Thank you for your comment on the Sensor Tower page. The company has a lot of media sources that mention and cite us. We have a few 3rd party articles, but rather than news outlets writing about us, they usually use our platform as a source of data, we may not have the amount of traditional 3rd party sources you're referring to. One of our competitors, App Annie (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/App_Annie), has a wikipedia page, as well as Similar Web (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SimilarWeb). I'm trying to understand how our page is different from theirs and why ours is marked for deletion. Can you give us feedback on that? I've focused on keep our page neutral because it would be valuable for users to see who we are when cited as a marketing intelligence platform. I appreciate your help JuliaC298 (talk) 23:34, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@JuliaC298: Well, those two articles you listed could also be taken to AfD and it's likely they would both be deleted for the same reasons (lack of real notability/third-party coverage). And like I said on the AfD, passing mentions in articles aren't what usually gives a subject notability. Mentions of Sensor Tower in third-party articles are still usually about the game in question, and not specifically Sensor Tower. I hope you see that it's nothing personal against Sensor Tower; the guidelines are in place to prevent other sorts of non-notable self-promotional articles from being deleted and the AfD nomination happens to call upon them for similar reasons. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 00:36, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- @Dissident93: Thank you, Dissident93 - we're not taking it personally. We're looking at similar companies on Wikipedia, the standards set by the Wikipedia company, and doing our due diligence to ensure that the Sensor Tower page is represented in a neutral way. We are also looking to understand and to be treated fairly according to other similar companies whose Wikipedia company articles, like App Annie and SimilarWeb, which have been up longer than ours and not flagged for deletion. Previous editors mentioned there should be more content on our page when it was first set live, which I've added, with more context, and relevancy. We're not looking to be a storefront, only a place where a Wikipedia user who sees Sensor Tower referenced as a research firm, can look us up and understand who we are and the data provided for app data. JuliaC298 (talk) 16:57, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - @JuliaC298: I think it would be wise to bring up these points on the actual AfD post rather than just my talk page, by the way. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 23:27, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- @Dissident93: - Thank you, I just added it to the AfD post. JuliaC298 (talk) 01:10, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mitsuhiko Fujii

Hi, nice to meet you, I'm Hatto0467.

Thank you for editting Mio Sugita article!

If you are no problem, I'd like to request you to expand right-wing activist Mitsuhiko Fujii article.

It was reported that Fujii kicked the Comfort Women statue in Tainan City, Taiwan in September 2018.

He is a man who come together with Mio Sugita. (Fujii and Sugita's picture. Please see https://twitter.com/miosugita/status/873119203783434242 )

Would you join editting his article?

--Hatto0467 (talk) 02:48, 13 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Hatto0467: No offense, but why can't you? I mean, I don't mind helping, but this seems like an odd request for something you could add yourself. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 00:30, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Dissident93! --Hatto0467 (talk) 01:27, 16 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]