User talk:George Ho/Archives/2012/2

Peer review limits changed

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Friday night death slot

I note that you have again nominated for AfD a well-referenced article which does not have any appreciable support. I am concerned that you are continuing to demonstrate poor comprehension of encyclopedic content and the use of deletion processes. Jclemens (talk) 02:34, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

George, per my earlier suggestion above, and the concerns here, I think it's a good idea if we have this conversation on your "mentorship" page before you make any more xFD nominations. Sorry, but this is becoming a concern, now. Begoon ^talk 02:51, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Sam and Diane

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File:Jeff Conaway ABC Taxi.jpg listed for deletion

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Maharis

Thanks for your work on the George Maharis article. I have no objection whatsoever to the problematic material having been removed under WP:BLP. I'm not an active editor anymore, so I only just saw your note about this today. Karen | Talk | contribs 01:59, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:John Altman Nick Cotton BBC EastEnders 1985.jpg

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Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Skier Dude (talk) 04:38, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Block an IP address

Hey, can you please block IP address: 75.72.241.244. See what the person did to this article. The person keeps adding FOX as part of the 2011–2012 United States network television weekday schedule, but FOX is not part of the big three networks. FOX does not even broadcast daytime television. I have the proof that FOX really does not broadcast daytime television right here ----> Fox Broadcasting Company#Programming I would like you to block the person, please. Thank you. Mr. Slinks (talk) 21:49, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

I have reported him in WP:AIV at your request. By the way, I'm not an administrator. --George Ho (talk) 22:10, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi, George. Thanks for your report at AIV, but for your future reference Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring would be a better place for 3RR reports. Edit warring is not vandalism so much as it is a content dispute. Let me know if you have any questions. See ya 'round Tiderolls 22:33, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Alright. Thanks for you help. Mr. Slinks (talk) 05:08, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Being deleted

Thank you for taking the time to add the {{being deleted}} tag. Unfortunately, your added this tag while my bot was in the middle of substituting the template (see the recent edit history for SporkBot). So, now I have to go back through the 2000 or so edits and remove the {{being deleted}} tag from a few hundred articles. If you are going to add this tag to templates which are being substituted, could you please put it inside of <noinclude>...</noinclude>? This way the bot can properly substitute the templates. In fact if you could do this for the game log templates, this will help reduce the number of steps in the substitution process, since we won't have to remove the being deleted tag after the templates are substituted. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 06:36, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

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Was being polite and following the "house rules" at the top of the page. :-) We hope (talk) 23:56, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

That's okay. I was just giving some advice, which you don't need to follow. Anyway, I'll know when you reply. --George Ho (talk) 00:01, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

FWIW, I just looked up the Elizabeth Ashley-Langdon photo and it was not copyrighted, so I'll get that onto Commons. Was very surprised not to find a lot more copyrights for him, since he's such a well-known photographer. We hope (talk) 00:08, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

All My Children undeletions

I have taken care of undeleting the histories for your latest requests. If you want more, feel free to contact me directly. It seems most admins don't understand the point of restoring the history. --ThaddeusB (talk) 05:02, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Archive

Thanks for the email, George. Yes, that archive is getting a bit unwieldy, isn't it? If you want to split/organise it, please go ahead - that would be helpful. Thanks. Begoon ^talk 22:40, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

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Sam and DIane

gave some suggestion thre, article needs some stuff answered but then you should have no probs moving to GA. well sourced though. Damn! no w i feel like watching them ;) Cant get a hold of the last episode without buying ALL the series ;)Lihaas (talk) 07:11, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Arthur and Pauline Fowler redirects

I just declined your request at redirects for creation. Since you can create new articles by yourself, you can of course circumvent that page if you disagree with my rationale, but I'd advise two things: Firstly, as pointed out by GunGadin on Talk:Pauline Fowler#Should "Arthur and Pauline Fowler" has their own article?, many of the more exotic combinations you propose are unlikely to be used as search terms. Secondly, a Google search for Arthur and Pauline shows that the Fowlers actually do not generate the most first-page hits. Thus, someone searching for "Arthur and Pauline" may arguably be looking for someone else. "Pauline and Arthur" has the same problem to a somewhat lesser degree. If you still consider creation of these redirects a net benefit, please go ahead; once created I don't think they will get deleted again (because redirects are cheap, as Elonka pointed out). Huon (talk) 04:17, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

May I at least create Arthur Fowler and Pauline Fowler, Arthur and Pauline Fowler, Pauline and Arthur Fowler, Pauline Beale and Arthur Fowler, Arthur Fowler and Pauline Beale, and Pauline Fowler and Arthur Fowler without need of approval then? --George Ho (talk) 08:41, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

As I said you can create them and don't need anybody's approval, but I think it's actually pretty hard to search for, say, "Pauline Fowler and Arthur Fowler" without stumbling about the article on Pauline Fowler in the process - and therefore I cannot imagine why we would need the redirect. Huon (talk) 09:50, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of A Young Man's World

Hello! Your submission of A Young Man's World at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Lihaas (talk) 01:22, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK readies?

Could you check off the DYK when you think its done with the symbol at the bottom of the edit page header? i believe your comment at the Movement for Oneness and Jihad in West Africa is answered.Lihaas (talk) 08:40, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Where? I'm not an administrator, so I may tag one with DYKtickAGF. --George Ho (talk) 08:49, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Yep, reviewers do that regardless of admiin or not . When they efeel its ready ;)Lihaas (talk) 06:45, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Paul Connolly (journalist)

Cheers for nominating that. I'll take a look at it and see if I can do something a bit more specific, although that could be difficult as the information about him is so general. The only time specific things I found about him were the All Ireland Quiz (which aired in 2008), and his various documentaries for TV3. Paul MacDermott (talk) 10:33, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing the Irish Times link. Not sure how you got it but it seems to work now. Paul MacDermott (talk) 10:35, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for A Young Man's World

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A barnstar for you!

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	Thank you, George, for your rapid assistance with Panama Limited; I have ventured over to Commons only three or four times during the three or four years I have been editing, and I was really unsure what to do. Thanks for taking care of that so quickly! HuskyHuskie (talk) 00:26, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Question

George, how good are you at determining whether an article has been expanded enough for DYK? Started out here Princess Irene of the Netherlands with quite a bit of text but zero refs. It doesn't seem to me that I textually expanded this a lot but would put it up for DYK if it fits the requirements. Thanks! We hope (talk) 17:46, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

File uploading

Hi there. You pinged in IRC? Did you have a question about the upload form or did you figure it out already? --KFP (contact - edits) 16:20, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Please stop.

I must apologize for the comments, by that user, that I stroke out. Please disregard it as a mere coming and going message, and please do not take this post seriously. Best regards, George Ho (talk) 08:00, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

I am sorry but this whole George Ho thing,he also uses the name Gh87 is a load of bull in my opinion. User George Ho knows exactly what he is doing,which is he is being nothing but a technical smart alek. All George ho does is add tags to articles and nominate articles for deletion. He knows exactly what he is doing. I do not believe he is Autistic either,that was just a ploy so you all would feel sorry for him. I mean George ho has what,6 mentors and not one of the six or so mentors can make him understand what he is doing wrong? No one is that stupid that they would not understand when they have a group of mentors telling them what they did wrong.That should tell you something right there,that his mentors cannot even make him understand. He has a personal vendetta against soap operas and I am sick of everyone Molly-coddling him. Please just ban user George ho,or do not allow him to add tags to everything or nominate articles for deletion. I am telling you he is playing a game with you,even when multiple people explain his wrongdoings to him,he just skirts around the issue by asking questions--74.179.215.67 (talk) 05:45, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

• As you have worked out for yourself, George is under mentorship. At this time, he is not submitting anything to xFD without mentor approval.
• The rest of your comments, frankly, border on a personal attack, and I'd be grateful if you would remove them from here, and anywhere else you may have posted them.
• I would, any of George's mentors would, and I'm sure George would, be happy to discuss specific matters with you in a constructive way, but this is not an acceptable manner to approach it. Thank you. Begoon ^talk 06:07, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

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Unusual DRV Request

George, what exactly, were you trying to achieve by starting this DRV? While yes, files deleted under WP:CSD#F5 may be restored uncontroversially at any time, I don't understand why you saw it fit to initiate an unnecessary DRV, filling it with spurious arguments having nothing to do with the reasons the files were originally deleted for. Please explain yourself. -FASTILY ^(TALK) 21:39, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Well, look at Wikipedia talk:wikiProject EastEnders#Deletion review for File:Reg Cox.jpg. AnemoneProject felt it was unnecessary to keep two images and have both removed. Also, some EE Projects members felt the same way, so I used the DRV. --George Ho (talk) 22:11, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Let's not forget your own talk page. --George Ho (talk) 22:15, 16 March 2012 (UTC) I wonder if you could re-open the DRV discussion, so Anemone and EE members can discuss these images that you restored. Therefore, I can add {{temporarily undeleted}}. --George Ho (talk) 22:37, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

We have cleary said they have no use to the project. You added them to the list when three of your fellow editors opposed.Rain the 1 22:59, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Unusual editing

Hello George. You complained about User:GSorby's edits at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:GSorby reported by User:George Ho (Result: page protected). I saw this when reviewing the 3RR board.

1. You opened this complaint even though you had reverted the article four times yourself, so an admin could have decided to block *you* for edit warring. You insist on keeping certain images in List of EastEnders characters (1985) even though other members of the WP:EE project think they don't belong. You need to accept consensus on this and allow these images to be removed.
2. You also nominated a file for deletion, and in your nomination you voted 'Keep.' This is puzzling behavior. If you actually want the image deleted, you should say 'Delete.' If you don't, you shouldn't nominate it for deletion.

This is not the first time that people have become concerned about your unusual edits. You were once indefinitely blocked back in November due to concerns about competence, and were unblocked under mentorship. To avoid further embarrassment, I would suggest that you work on less contentious areas for a while and avoid reverting changes made by others, unless it is clear vandalism. The patience of other editors is not unlimited and at some point this becomes disruptive editing. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 02:38, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Ed, thanks for taking the time to comment. I share these concerns, and thought I should add a note that I'm discussing this with George on his mentorship page. Your suggestions are obviously welcome there, too. Begoon ^talk 02:43, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

What "less contentious areas" and "for a while"? --George Ho (talk) 02:47, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

It seems that at least one of your mentors is now discussing this, so I recommend you reach an agreement with User:Begoon at User talk:George Ho/Mentorship discussions#WP:WikiProject EastEnders. If I were Begoon, I would be thinking you are not following your mentorship agreement, and I would be concerned this will have a bad result. If I had been the admin closing your 3RR case I would probably have issued a block. EdJohnston (talk) 03:48, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Ed - I am concerned. George has made great progress since being unblocked, and I'd like to prevent this setback turning into a disaster, partly because I'm selfish, and don't want to have wasted the many hours I've spent on this, but mostly because I think George does have a lot to contribute, and can get to grips with the problems here. I hope I'm right. Begoon ^talk 03:51, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

very long

Can you explain me these two revisions: [1]? This simply doesn't make sense to create a new template - a wrapper is totally enough. We merged many maintain templates in the last year with the |section= parameter, so why recreating such a mess? mabdul 11:50, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

I undid those edits. However, I wonder why the template is a wrapper, not a stand-alone template, like Template:expand section. --George Ho (talk) 16:04, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

This is because {{Expand}} was deleted after an TFD, but the "futher, section, etc" templates are still considered as useful and thus this (sub)template was moved. mabdul 16:26, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

I edited "very long section" as resemblance to "expand section" because I have been planning to make "very long" the same way "expand" did. --George Ho (talk) 16:53, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

You seem to be an expert on Cheers and Fraiser I need help

Now I have in recent years added very basic third person information on Sam Malone and other Cheers members. You expanded and improved the articles to a level I could never dream of or be able to. I think the episode Goodnight, Seattle is notable and could do with some improvement and expansion.Dwanyewest (talk) 20:13, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Want to sign up for this?

Wikipedia:HighBeam/Applications It would mean full access to many publications which are now hard to work with because pay-per-view limits what we're able to view re: information. There's probably a lot of soap opera information in the newspapers that we can't fully read now. We hope (talk) 18:21, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

File:Chin Ho head shot.jpg

Feel free to delete the image from the article. -Nv8200p talk 13:54, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Princess Irene of the Netherlands

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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Margaret Tyzack CBE 2010.jpg

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George, the issue with this image is that it belongs to Getty Images. WP:CSD#F7 says "non-free images or media from a commercial source (e.g., Associated Press, Getty), where the file itself is not the subject of sourced commentary, are considered an invalid claim of fair use and fail the strict requirements of WP:NFCC; and may be deleted immediately." The article says nothing about the picture, and your FUR says that the picture is used only for visual identification in the infobox. That's an automatic fail. You'd do better to try to get a picture of her in one of her famous roles and use that. Or move the image out of the infobox and write something about it if you can find some sourced commentary. Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:57, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

I did restore the screenshot image that someone else uploaded, but I didn't like the screenshot. However, it might comply with the article, doesn't it? --George Ho (talk) 23:04, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Can you make the photo work by writing something with these refs?

• Hytner, Stewart, Lloyd and Tyzack to be Honored by Queen Playbill.com 31 December 2009

• Patrick Stewart leads arts honours with a knighthood BBC News 31 December 2009

• Queen's List We hope (talk) 23:16, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Well, that won't make any difference, I'm afraid. The article already mentions that Margaret Tyzack was honoured the CBE title in 2010. This image is used for primary visual means and to identify her as CBE. --George Ho (talk) 23:21, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

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Definition of rape at EJ DiMera and Sami Brady article

Hi, George Ho. I know that you edit this article and other soap opera articles. There is currently an editor there ignoring sources and saying that coerced sex doesn't count as rape/that it's WP:FRINGE. You can see this discussion here. Will you help out by commenting? The editor is not making any sense. 218.108.168.130 (talk) 02:48, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

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Talk:Barack Obama on social media/GA2

Hi George. You may have forgotten about it, but I would say this is ready to be closed. AIRcorn (talk) 03:57, 5 October 2012 (UTC) And Talk:Lucille Ball/GA1 too. Regards AIRcorn (talk) 04:00, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

I love your talk page

I just got started on Wikipedia (as an editor not a reader). I have so much to learn, but I just wanted to say that I love your User Page & Talk page. You've got such great information and it shows a warm, smart, funny personality. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ALPILO (talk • contribs) 16:21, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Advanced Idea Mechanics

Last April, you tagged Advanced Idea Mechanics as needing reorganization. Do you have any suggestions on how I should proceed? Argento Surfer (talk) 17:57, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

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Did I miss something? -- Cheers, Riley Huntley 19:23, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Afd: List of channels on Sky

Hey George Ho. I have created Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of channels on Sky, for your information and perusal. doktorb _words^deeds 06:23, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Sky AfD

For your information, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of channels on Sky has been modified to include an expanded list of directly related articles. I'm just letting you know that this has happened so you may add or amend your comments in response. Many thanks, doktorb _words^deeds 03:40, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Channel lineups AFD

Hello, George. I am contacting you because you recently left a comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2nd bundle of channel lineups. I have just created another AfD, which also looks at articles with lists of channels. If you are interested, you can leave a comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/3rd bundle of channel lineups. Thanks. -- Wikipedical (talk) 03:05, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

UK channel line up Afd

Just to let you know, I've created Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of digital terrestrial television channels (UK) as a further extension of the current debate on channel listings on Wikipedia. Your input would be appreciated doktorb _words^deeds 17:46, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

The All-Around Amazing Barnstar

		All Around Amazing Barnstar
		awarded to George Ho, all-around amazing Wikipedian who maintains the Wikipedia:DYKSTATS in order to motivate others to excel and take pride in their work. A true Wikipedian is more than just an editor of articles. Poeticbent talk 16:48, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

DYK proposals

My apologies for taking so long to respond - I didn't have time earlier today. My apologies also for the clumsily-worded closure of the thread in question.

There is nothing especially wrong with your proposals, it's just that I think they are coming at the wrong time, given that we are yet to even determine whether or not GAs will be added to DYK, or whether we will hold an RFC to determine that. Other than that, I think your suggestions are probably already covered by existing rules which stipulate that an article can only appear on DYK once. My main concern though, was that discussion would not be diverted to these side issues when we have more important things to discuss. You are certainly more than welcome to bring these proposals forward once we have sorted out some of the more basic issues. Regards, Gatoclass (talk) 16:47, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

List of Net channels AFD

Hi, George. I am contacting you because you recently left a comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2nd bundle of channel lineups. I have just created another AfD, nominating List of Net channels for deletion. If you are interested, you can leave a comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Net channels. Thanks. -- Wikipedical (talk) 03:17, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

• Hi. If interested, see also a new AfD, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of StarHub TV and mio TV channels. Thanks. -- Wikipedical (talk) 18:48, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Brian Ehlers

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Reply

I will respectfully defer to your judgment about that. :) — Cirt (talk) 18:13, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

You started this

So, as my favourite non-free image expert, how many of these screen grabs do you think we can or should justify if we edit the article where necessary, George? I'm thinking the plot summary is a big, long chunk, and it can be edited to be more succinct and relevant, with some critical commentary - that shouldn't be hard to find for such an iconic TV movie. I'm not asking you to do any editing, I'm happy to do that (though you are welcome to help if you want to) - I'm just here for the copyright advice.Begoon ^talk 13:14, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

I cannot find images that would sufficiently help readers find them valuable, irreplaceable, and significant. The only two (or three) images are the "Goodbye" stone and Klinger's marriage. I've asked about including images that would help readers understand the text. Then one said that even "weight loss" is adequate enough to make image of weight loss redundant. --George Ho (talk) 00:41, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

See, that's the kind of thing that confuses me. Why would Klinger's marriage pictures add any more understanding than, say, the shot of the musicians being driven away? I don't really understand the logic that leads you to that conclusion. If you said you disagreed with all the pics except the "goodbye" one, I could sort of see where you were coming from. I might not agree but I would understand your point of view. I'm not saying you are wrong - just that I don't "get" your reasoning. Can you try to explain, please? No hurry - take your time. Begoon ^talk 03:27, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Korean musicians? Hmm.... I'm... speechless... However, if that scene is discussed by sources, then the scene of musicians is worth including. Otherwise, even calling it a gag or making it look like an intended gag without saying it explicitly (with proper sources) is not a reason for worthy inclusion. As for the marriage thing, well... Jamie Farr's character always wears dresses. He's wearing a groom suit, and he's marrying a Korean woman... in the end of Korean War. What do you think? --George Ho (talk) 04:09, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

I think you make a fair point. It all depends what we say in the article, and how we source it. Begoon ^talk 04:20, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

MASH Goodbye.jpg

Just to let you know that I updated File:MASH Goodbye.jpg with a new version. Begoon ^talk 06:39, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Another question

George, what happens in the following circumstances?

• User uploads file from Flickr, with compatible CC by 2.0 license
• No fancy "This permission was checked by an administrator on such and such a date..." tag is added.
• Later, the license on Flickr is altered to be an incompatible one.

Don't waste a lot of time on this. It was just a situation you might have come across before, and I wondered if you had a quick answer from experience... Begoon ^talk 09:35, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

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Man From Atlantis

Hi George,

From what I've seen of the issue, it looks like the user wanted to have a non-free photo on the article. As we both know, just because someone has a photo on a website, that doesn't make it free to use; there would have to be an acceptable CC license we could view. Barring that, the photo has to be thought of as not PD. Since Patrick Duffy is still living, we can only use PD photos for his page.

It would be nice if we were able to find a PD photo of him where he isn't in character, but I haven't run into any as of now. We could use the photo that was deleted if someone contacts the copyright owner, gets permission and sends it through OTRS. There are some Flickr photos of him but they'd need to have their licenses changed before we could use them here. We hope (talk) 21:12, 13 December 2012 (UTC)