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Back to work.

Could you give Pontefract Academies Trust a little protection please. --ClemRutter (talk) 13:01, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

ClemRutter, Hi Clem. I've blocked the IP for a month. Let me know if they haven't got bored by then, or if they manage to hop to a new IP. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:40, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Aberfan

Yes, quite. Head > desk. cheers DBaK (talk) 17:58, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

DBaK Indeed. One wonders sometimes! Facepalm Facepalm. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:06, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

In appreciation

The Content Review Medal of Merit  
By the authority vested in me by myself it gives me great pleasure to present you with this award in recognition of your recent boldly stated, well reasoned and stalwart comments at FAC. They are noted and appreciated. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:08, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Thanks Gog. It's always nice to be appreciated. :) I try to at least pull my weight at FAC and ACR but I don't have a lot of time on my hands these days. Btw, if you get chance, could you see if the Boer War memorial plaques are still on Platform 1 at Derby station (I presume they are, but it's been quite a while since I've managed to get back to the Midlands) and try and get a photo of them please? The photo would make a nice addition for my latest side project. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:31, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
HJ Mitchell, I shall try - no promises. I know the ones you mean. I may try to sub contract the job! I had noticed your side project. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:34, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
PS The award was not so much for pulling your weight, which you do and it is appreciated, as for boldly stepping into that lonely space, which we, collectively, need more reviewers to do. So thanks for that. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:37, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Gog the Mild, much appreciated. No rush. It probably won't be complete for quite a while but I wanted to write something to draw together the various articles on railway war memorials. I'm surprised we don't have photos of them on Commons already. I might even have some somewhere. And yes, it can be a lonely business, but it's encouraging when the coordinators come to a reviewer's aid. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:45, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

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Better late than never!

Season's Greetings
Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, and all best wishes for the New Year! Adoration of the Magi (Jan Mostaert) is my Wiki-Christmas card to all for this year. All the best Harry, hope you are well! Johnbod (talk) 00:23, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
Thanks John, nice to hear from you. All the best to you and yours as well. Hope you had a good Christmas, and here's hoping 2021 is an improvement! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:17, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

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Royal Artillery Memorial

Sorry for missing you out. Wasn't intentional of course, I just missed copying both nominators. But I do try to avoid mistakes like that. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.8% of all FPs 19:08, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Adam Cuerden, Thanks! I never for a moment dreamt that it was intentional! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:15, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
Think I'll throw a quick correction in the little commentary section at the top next month. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.8% of all FPs 19:54, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
Obviously, this isn't done yet - we haven't yet hit the cut-off point for article and image inclusion - but Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/Featured content has my initial work. I did try to fit it into the somewhat droll style I write the introductions in, but... Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.8% of all FPs 23:59, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

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Dimple Kapadia FAC

Hi there, Harry! Dimple Kapadia is back at FAC. You must remember the previous one which was a mess. I've spent the past few months digging in the archives and trying to find the best sources available, including books and scholarly journals. In the meanwhile, Nolan's Tenet was released and gained her some really good feedback. Just the other day, an independent copyeditor from GoCE gave the article a thorough copyedit. I appreciated your review and comments the first time, and I'd be grateful if you could give it another glimpse in your free time. Best regards, Shahid • Talk2me 17:12, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

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User talk:FlyboyExeter

Hi, I wonder if it might be best to lock User talk:FlyboyExeter from editing his own talk page. Take a look at the edit history: he seems to be going a bit wild with it, misusing it, including a personal attack on Guy Macron, and now a speedy deletion request of his own page (not sure if this is allowed if you're banned, because it'll remove the edit history too). What do you think? — Czello 15:32, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Czello, Probably best to leave it for now until they start doing something that causes disruption beyond their own talk page. No doubt another admin will be along shortly to decline the speedy deletion. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:40, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

LNWR memorial

Heh. I was walking past this memorial the other day (pre-lockdown), and was in the Euston area again soon after while renewing my British Library reader's card. I even booked time in the BL reading rooms, but the same day got an email saying that the reading rooms were closing (due to the Tier 4 restrictions). :-( I will see if I can rustle up those sources you mentioned on my talk page (I replied there as well). Carcharoth (talk) 05:19, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Not sure where you keep your railway war memorial notes, but I found the following while rummaging around, so please use these notes if helpful: [1], [2], [3]. A listing somewhere of the memorials that probably wouldn't have their own page might be an idea. I think the one at London Waterloo (the 'Victory Arch') might have enough for its own article? See [4], [5], [6]. We have an article on the architect: James Robb Scott. Of the other memorials at the London termini stations, the one that that has the most interesting history (IMO) is the one at King's Cross, see here. Carcharoth (talk) 17:24, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
Carcharoth, Thanks for those. I had some of them bookmarked. I recently started Railway war memorials in the United Kingdom in an effort to draw them all together but I can't quite conjure the motivation to do all the fiddly table work to create a list. Not sure if you've come across Lambert's Britain's Railways in Wartime (published by Historic England), but it has a gazetteer of memorials at the back. I'm certain the Waterloo Victory Arch is notable. There's enough in Lambert and a few of the other books to sustain an article, and the NHLE entry is quite detailed. I only haven't started an article yet because I've got a few other things on the go, though I'm getting close to the point of exhausting all the sources I've got on the LNWR so I might start on it when I next get time. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:59, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
We (Commons) have pictures of quite a few of the memorials, including the ones that are 'just' rolls of honour (i.e. less architecturally notable, for want of a better expression). I should have spotted that article, even though you only started it a few weeks ago. It has the other most-commonly used photo of the Victory Arch, and looking at where that photo is used, I came across Wolf Solent - that is a literary use of war memorials I've not seen before! Commons:Category:Metropolitan Railway War Memorial is one that I've taken a photo of before and walked past regularly when commuting, plus the one at London Victoria. There is Commons:Category:Railway war memorials in England, which I am sure you are aware of. Carcharoth (talk) 18:18, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Sorry to dump some more notes here, but found lots more... Start of a series of notes on the King's Cross memorial. Archive photo of the Euston one (might be worth trying to track this down). Bit here on the history of the Great Central Railway memorial, originally erected outside Victoria railway station in Sheffield (original setting is here). And not railways, but some Nottingham memorials include County War Memorial, Nottingham and City War Memorial, Nottingham and a more recent one here that I think was built next to the latter of those. What do you think about articles on the memorials erected more recently, like that one? Carcharoth (talk) 19:25, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

FAC mentorship request

Hi! I was wondering if you'd be willing be an FAC mentor for me for the article 2016 Sleaford and North Hykeham by-election? It would be my first FAC. I saw on the mentorship page that you are interested in British history and politics, so I thought you would be a good choice for a mentor, but if you are busy or do not want to do this then that's absolutely fine. I got the article to good article status last year and think that it's in good shape and as comprehensive as it can be, but I'd really appreciate any feedback you may have. Thanks! N Oneemuss (talk to me · see my edits · email me) 19:46, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

N Oneemuss, I can't promise I'll be much help. I don't normally work on election articles so I'm not sure what's expected. But I'd be happy to have a read through and leave some suggestions on the talk page and try to help you navigate FAC. It just might take me a few days. I'm busy in real life and on a couple of WP projects of my own at the moment. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:42, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
Thank you! Do take your time; there's no rush! N Oneemuss (talk to me · see my edits · email me) 10:47, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

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Anne Hathaway

Hi. I see that you are currently active. Can you protect Anne Hathaway. Allegedly by these IP editors Anne now wants to be called "Annie". I couldn't find a single source about it, and I've seen multiple non-related IPs adding it. I've already requested a RFPP, but my spider sense tells me this will continue for a while. (CC) Tbhotch™ 21:24, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Promotion of Chandler's Ford shooting

Congratulations, HJ Mitchell! The article you nominated, Chandler's Ford shooting, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Ealdgyth (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:06, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

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TFA

Thank you today for York City War Memorial, introduced: "the city council commissioned the same architect but had a tenth of the railway company's budget to play with; this and the proposed locations of both resulted in considerable controversy. Pevsner laments that the original, much more ambitious, scheme was abandoned in favour of this more modest memorial."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:31, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Awesome
Ten years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:16, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Gerda Arendt. I'd forgotten what a pain in the arse TFA can be. I'm surprised such an obscure subject attracted that much vandalism. But hey ho. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 10:55, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
I was outside and didn't follow, otherwise I'm usually ready to fight some vandalism on TFA day. I nominated a FAC yesterday, DYK? Comments welcome, and I believe that those from outsiders to a topic are especially valuable. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:51, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Shhhhhhh

Hello. I wish I could do this all in light grey text and very small writing because I just want to ask a simple question and am frightened of suddenly being surrounded by angry shouting people with sticks. But, in your lovely York article, did you early on decide that it is Lutyens' design rather than Lutyens's design? I had sort of thought that we were meant to do the latter and that it was only Moses, Jesus and a few others that ducked the extra S, but I have absolutely no confidence in my memory or judgement, or whether what I think I might remember was a rule, suggestion, or just something found on a price sticker on a discounted mug, and I have less-than-zero stomach for a dispute, so I am staying WELL away from the article unless I see, say, "Middlesborough" or "concensus" in it, if you see what I mean. Please advise, but preferably without hitting me. Cheers DBaK (talk) 16:01, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered, I prefer it without the extra "s" personally but I'm not gonna die in a ditch over it, and I think our MoS would have it your way. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:42, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Fair enough and thanks for the nice response! No ditches. Cheers DBaK (talk) 22:48, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

FAC Mentorship

Hey, I don't suppose you've had the chance to have a look at 2016 Sleaford and North Hykeham by-election yet (before I nominate it for FAC)? Thanks! N Oneemuss (talk to me · see my edits · email me) 14:57, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

N Oneemuss, it might be Wednesday before I can look at it in detail. Can you wait that long? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:33, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
That's fine. Thank you! N Oneemuss (talk to me · see my edits · email me) 10:25, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Shannon Airport

Hey there, you recently wanted to apply a editing protection to Shannon Airport, however something went wrong I guess as one can still edit using IP adresses. Best regards!

The protection had expired, but I have already a new protection requested because of your editing, dear IP. The Banner talk 18:10, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Template:2020–21 NFL playoffs

I did thank you for responding to my request, but it was noted in the talk page that this template in previous years was protected during the entire playoffs, including the Super Bowl, so could you change it to February 7 or 8 if it's possible for you to do so? –Piranha249 16:17, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

This is the last time I'm asking; is it possible for you to extend the protection to February 8? I would love to know if there is an answer. –Piranha249 22:44, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

User talk:8.48.249.3

That's that a-hole from Kentucky/Indiana who gets a kick out of this. Your long block is good, but also good is longterm semi-protection on the articles he attacks. It's like a dog returning to lick his vomit. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 21:57, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Drmies, Thanks, I wasn't aware of the background. I was just clearing an AIV backlog. I don't really get involved in complicated projectspace issues these days. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:24, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
Sure thing. When you see it two or three times, you know it; there's a slew of articles he's vandalized, mostly US politicians, from a variety of IPs. The BLP violations coupled with the quick reverts are a signal. There really should be a filter of some sort for that. Hope you're doing well. Drmies (talk) 22:28, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

temp semi at Talk:Military of Hong Kong

I've gone ahead and temporarily semi'd this; the amount of time wasting for other editors just became problematic enough that it seemed worth just stopping it to see if the IPs would either wander off or register. No objection to you reverting it, I too am a bit loathe to semi a talk, but these IPs have just been absurd both at that talk and at Talk:List of lighthouses in China and a few other HK related pages. —valereee (talk) 21:42, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Oldcraft

Can user:Oldcraft and the other IPS attacking my talkpage please be blocked ASAP. CLCStudent (talk) 22:31, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

CLCStudent, I've indef'd that account and made a short, small range block. Let me know if you have any more problems. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:35, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Hey, i think you blocked that user while i was warning them, sorry for that, i saw your block on my watchlist only after having warned them. Just to let you know. Best.---Wikaviani (talk) (contribs) 22:39, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Wikaviani, No worries. It happens. But we can usually dispense with warnings for new accounts that are only intent on harassing editors. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:42, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Ah, didn't know that, thanks.---Wikaviani (talk) (contribs) 22:44, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

RevDel request

Hello admin, sorry to bother you but can you please revdelete this edit? The link is extremely offensive and inappropriate. Thank you. --Ashleyyoursmile! 09:51, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Ashleyyoursmile, yep. And I found another one in the IP's contribs. Thanks. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 09:54, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
Thank you very much. :) Ashleyyoursmile! 09:56, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for blocking that disruptive vandal at Ishq (1997 film). I was about to file a report but you just caught him! (Assuming it's a he) Cheers, Hockeycatcat (talk) 09:19, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Hockeycatcat, You're welcome. As it happens, two different bots beat you to the report! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 09:22, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

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A count is being kept (PM)

Reverting sourced information isn't appropriate.[1]

DaleYorks (talk) 17:11, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

DaleYorks You've been told to stop and discuss on your talk page but you blanked it. Making mass changes after being asked to stop is what's inappropriate, which is why I've reverted all your changes to prime minister articles (a script allows me to do this en masse with one click). Please listen to what you've been told and start a discussion. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:18, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Don't try to accuse me of making 'mass changes' after being asked to stop. The updates were carried out before anyone had contacted me about it. In subsequent updates, I provided a verifiable source and added a discussion to the talk page of Gordon Brown.DaleYorks (talk) 17:20, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@DaleYorks: Recommend you get a consensus for such changes, before implementing them. Informing you here, seeing as you prefer to 'blank' any advice on your own talkpage. GoodDay (talk) 17:23, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

confused?

I reported Kugyuj464 a bit ago, they're still continuing their disruption by repeatedly removing AFD tags, so I'm sure how this is possibly stale. CUPIDICAE💕 18:14, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the block. I obviously meant "not sure how". Stupid new contacts...CUPIDICAE💕 18:21, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Praxidicae, You're welcome. Though AIV is well-watched and normally if a block is needed it comes quickly. I'm generally loathe to block a new editor for not fully complying with our policies and it seems no other admin wanted to block either (at least one other admin was active at AIV in that time). But a short block was probably inevitable. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:25, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
They're not so new...there's 3 or 4 other accounts trying to spam himself (some bored school kid who wants to be famous.) So I wouldn't feel so bad ;) CUPIDICAE💕 18:42, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2021-01-31/Featured_content

Correction is published to make sure everyone knows to give you credit. And half my actual writing for this issue was poking fun of the errors in the very rushed last issue (if you include the List of heretics bit in the FL section, anyway) Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.8% of all FPs 10:13, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Adam Cuerden, I saw. I'm an avid reader of the featured content section. But thanks for letting me know. :) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 10:59, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Arbitration enforcement

Just FYI, articles in the Antisemitism in Poland topic area are subject to the same restrictions as Arab-Israeli topic area, they are often preemptively protected 500/30 as new editors are not supposed to edit them. Protection does not require recent disruption to implement. (t · c) buidhe 23:19, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Buidhe, I'm aware, and I'll happily protect them if it becomes necessary, but it seems to me that the ArbCom ruling allows such protection but does not require it, and the two articles that came up at RfPP today were not heavily edited articles. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:23, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

‎Lithuanian diaspora pages

Hey. I saw your message at WP:RFPP. The problem is that the sources at Lithuanians#Genetics do not list Poles as being related to either Lithuanians or Latvians and the IP, after the protection of Balts and Lithuanians pages, has moved to other Lithuanian diaspora-related pages (with the addition of Latvians and Poles) and continues to do the same edits by adding either Lithuanian (to Polish pages) or Poles (to Lithuanian and Latvian pages) to the infobox as related ethnic groups. In addition, a sockpuppet account by the IP was created at Adam Lietuva (talk · contribs) and this personal reasoning for such additions was left at User talk:Jip Orlando. – Sabbatino (talk) 06:30, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

The disruption by the editor from the aforementioned IP range is continued (the IP also added this, which cannot be confirmed by sources). After doing some research I found out that various IPs from the range made the same edits over the years, which where reverted and there were various other IPs (also located in the Pittsburgh area) that were used to make the same edits, for example, 108.17.80.2 (talk · contribs · WHOIS). Is it possible to block the whole IP range? Or should I file an SPI or even LTA? – Sabbatino (talk) 10:20, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

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A Barnstar for you!

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Thanks for blocking that vandal! Alibino (talk) 15:24, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
@Alibino: Thank you. Always happy to help. :) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:55, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

128.194.2.0/25 resumes talk page abuse

Hi there, in case you hadn't noticed my report at wp:AIV that was removed by a bot, this is what I had reported:

128.194.2.0/25 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) blocked 1 week on 3 feb 2021 by HJ Mitchell
128.194.2.0/26 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) blocked 72 hours on 2 feb 2021 by HJ Mitchell
128.194.2.28 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) blocked 31 hours on 26 jan 2021 by Yamaguchi先生
Entirely at your discretion - Cheers - DVdm (talk) 13:51, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
DVdm, I'll have a look when I can get to a proper computer. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:41, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
@HJ Mitchell: And here we go again: [8]. - DVdm (talk) 21:38, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
DVdm, Apologies for the delay. We'll try a month for the /25. Let me know if they get round it or if it needs to be renewed in a month's time. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:54, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
No problem. Some people don't get round anything. They'll be back . Thanks - DVdm (talk) 16:14, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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For tirelessly blocking vandal accounts. This is to let you know that your work is very much appreciated. :) Ashleyyoursmile! 16:54, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

RevDel request

Can you please redact [9] and [10]? They have been evading block to harass and threaten others. --Ashleyyoursmile! 13:45, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Ashleyyoursmile, I can if you really want but I'd suggest revert, block, ignore is the best way to handle this. I was going to email you some more thoughts but see you haven't enabled it. My address is on my userpage if you want to reach out. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:52, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for your advice. :) I'll make sure to do the same if they return in future. Ashleyyoursmile! 13:56, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
Ashleyyoursmile, You should be in no doubt that they will, but if we pay them no attention then all they're doing is wasting their time. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:01, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
Absolutely! :) Ashleyyoursmile! 14:07, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Feel like mentoring a FAC?

Hello HJ,

I am hoping to submit Greenhouse gas emissions by Turkey shortly. I saw on the list of mentors that you like fixing prose. It has already been through the GOCE and I don't think the individual sentences are the main problem. I feel it is not telling the story in a coherent way but is more like a lot of notes thrown together.

Although we have our project style guide none of the other "Greenhouse gas emissions by ...." or "Climate change in ....." country articles have yet been submitted to FAC.

So I am looking for big picture ideas mainly, such as how to organize the article to present the subject in a digestible way, although if you spotted specific points of course I would fix them too.

This would be my first (and probably only as I know it takes lots of work) FAC - I tried for a featured list before but gave that up due to a list related thing which is not relevant to a normal article.

The reason I think this is timely is that I am pretty sure Turkey will ratify the Paris Agreement this year so it would be nice to have the article as a sound starting point for anyone, such as journalists, who are interested in what Nationally Determined Contribution Turkey will submit to COP26.

Regards

Chidgk1 (talk) 18:47, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Chidgk1, I'd be happy to have a look at the prose. Just bear in mind I only have a passing knowledge of greenhouse gases from A-level geography (and that was ~15 years ago!) and essentially none when it come to Turkey in particular. It might be Wednesday or Thursday before I can give it my full attention, but if you can wait that long I'll put any queries on the talk page. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:34, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
Great. Your level of prior knowledge is exactly that of my target reader. So if you cannot understand something then I need to explain it better. Feel free to bomb the article with "clarify" or any other tags. Chidgk1 (talk) 11:43, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

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Plenty of backlog

I have applied for the autopatrolles rights. But it seems there are plenty of backlogs. Can you have a look at it. Regards Kichu🐘 Discuss 16:38, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

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"Royal Scotsman" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Why did you ban user KingFun626? He was a legit user and never vandalized the site.

Deblocking

How times change. I was distinctly surprised earlier today to happen upon two blocks by you within a fairly short period, because that seemed like a remarkable coincidence. I still remember the time when not a day went by without my seeing dozens of your blocks for 1001 days, whereas now I rarely see you around at all. However, I am not here to chat about such trivia, so on to business.

I am in fact here to comply with the terms of your red note near the top of this page, by leaving you what I hope you will regard as "a polite note explaining what [I] did and why". I have reverted a block you placed on Squigle ducky, for vandalism on my talk page, as I believe the block was mistaken. The editor had posted a message on my talk page saying "i just wanted to say thank you for restoring the vandalism". Obviously that looks like trolling, but in fact I think it was just an unfortunate choice of words for a well-intentioned message. The editor had been trying to constructively edit an article in the face of persistent vandalism by one or more people using an account and IP editing. I stepped in and blocked the IP and reverted to a pre-vandalism version of the article. I think what Squigle ducky meant by "thank you for restoring the vandalism" was probably something like "thank you for reverting the vandalism" or "thank you for restoring the good version from before the vandalism". JBW (talk) 15:58, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

JBW, your note is very polite and explanatory so thank you! I'm always in favour of fixing a mistake quickly rather than waiting for the bureaucracy. I'm still around and still making 1001-day blocks; just not as much as I once was. Real life is busy these days and I have even less patience for the politics than I used to, so I mostly just write articles and block vandals. It's good to hear from you. I hope you're keeping well. Hopefully we'll get to have a pint again before too long! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:00, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Yes, I know that you are still reasonably active, though nowhere near as much so as you were for a brief period back in about 2010 or so. However, I think my failure to see your editing is probably only partly because you are around less, and partly, perhaps more, because my own focus of activity has shifted, so that I am less often in the right place to see what you have been doing. I don't actually remember in what context I used to keep seeing your blocks, but it may have been when I used to spend large amounts of time using Huggle to deal with vandalism. I haven't used Huggle now for goodness how many years. JBW (talk) 23:57, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Pending changes review permissions backlog

Hi, HJ Mitchell. I'm not sure who else to go to for this at the moment, but I noticed the pending changes backlog is listed as DefCon 1, and there's a backlog of about a dozen editors (myself included) at Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Pending changes reviewer. I was wondering if you had the time to review some of the requests there so those of us who get approved can start chipping away at the backlog. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 20:24, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hey I don’t know if this is appropriate but wanted to thank you for stepping in on a deletion earlier today. Someone had created a page, well, of me, and I didn’t appreciate it.

It was pretty stressful, mainly because I have zero experience with wiki beyond reading it, and couldn’t figure out what to do. Not sure how it happened but I did see you were able to delete it. So thanks very much!

(Again sorry if this breaks protocol) Imissdisco (talk) 05:10, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Imissdisco, you are not breaking protocol--no worries. I am very glad that HJ Mitchell saw what I didn't see soon enough. I placed a partial block to stop the disruption in that article, not knowing that the very reason there was an article was unjustified. I'm sorry for the stress that various editors including me caused you; the article is gone, of course, and the creator is now blocked, and a community discussion is up at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Block_of_User:Geo_Swan: it looks like there is broad, even unanimous agreement with Harry's deletion of the article. Again, please accept my apologies. On a personal note, let me add that I miss disco too. Take care, Drmies (talk) 18:54, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Drmies - Man I can't even figure out how to respond to you directly (is there a direct "reply" button??). Anyway thank you so much for stepping in here, as well as on the other wiki page. I really do appreciate it. And of course, apology accepted. I'm pretty embarrassed about how this all went down, and I'm definitely not proud of some of the language I used, but that feeling of helplessness was all encompassing. I didn't know what was going on, if he was going to slander me, whether I had legal recourse, or what. So it's actually been a legit learning experience. Nice people like you have cushioned it somewhat. WOuld it be ok if we kept the lines of communication open? I do have a couple of concerns about Swan. I know there's a mirror site called Wikialpha where the page exists, and I guess I'm just generally wondering about next steps. If this person gets banned, is retaliation a concern? Might sound silly, and hopefully I'm just being neurotic. But having someone who knows this world would be incredibly helpful. I promise not to take up too much of your time. Anyway, thanks again. All best, d


I need to ask you just what you saw in the article that warrented the deletion criterion used. attack page ", as an attack page – " a page that disparages, threatens, intimidates or harasses its subject or some other entity, and serve no other purpose" I'm just asking about the deletion, not the other aspects. DGG ( talk ) 02:32, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
looking at it again today, though I still think it was not a G10, the article isn't worth arguing over. DGG ( talk ) 17:31, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

TFOWR

Do you know what happened to TFOWR (talk · contribs)? He made some edits on 5 November 2010 and then disappeared without ever editing again.

By the way, I've moved on from the period when I was disruptive and getting blocked for that. I was overly curious about knowing administrative things and asked instead of finding out for myself, and I wanted to get things done and look smart. I've grown up since and I'm a much more mature person today who doesn't do stupid things. Heymid (contribs) 18:56, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Heymid, it's good to see you're still around and being productive. I don't know what happened to TFOWR. I remember him well. But a decade is a long time. People change. They lose interest in things, or their interests shift. I almost completely disappeared from Wikipedia for a year not so long ago. Hopefully that's the answer and he's finding fulfilment elsewhere. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:54, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Galashiels War Memorial

Hi Harry. Very quick note. Do you think an article on the Galashiels War Memorial would pass muster? (Have been looking at the works of Robert Lorimer recently). Carcharoth (talk) 16:37, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Carcharoth, Almost certainly. Any prominent piece of public art by a notable artist is likely to be notable. If it's listed (which it almost certainly will be) it will definitely be notable, especially if it's in one of the higher grades. It gets about five column inches in Boorman's At the Going Down of the Sun (pp. 100/101) which would be enough to get an article going and almost the same write-up in his A Century of Remembrance (p. 151). I'll have a look and see if it's covered in any of the other books when I get a chance. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:19, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for blocking all the sock accounts, they just keep coming in bunches. --Ashleyyoursmile! 16:53, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Ashleyyoursmile, You're welcome. Would have been easier on a proper computer but needs must! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:21, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

revdel request

Hi, Could you please delete the editor log for this edit? I was inadvertently logged out and would prefer that this identifying information be wiped. BrxBrx(talk)(please reply with {{SUBST:re|BrxBrx}}) 00:12, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

BrxBrx, it seems a friendly fellow oversighter handled this while I was asleep. :) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:19, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

AIV

Yes, sorry, forgot to mention that that was the tiresome namedropper Josephwcarrillo. There is no LTA page. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 20:26, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Suffusion of Yellow, Thanks, that's more useful. There are hundreds of these loonies and I doubt any one admin knows them all by sight! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:31, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Protection of Jwales talk page.

I don't really see the point, it is a low traffic talk page in the grand scale of things and has stalkers with good intentions up the wazoo. I doubt Jimbo asked for it. -- Cimon Avaro; on a pogostick. (talk) 21:24, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Cimon Avaro, We shouldn't wait for him to ask for it. Although it's used as a quasi-village pump for discussions about project politics, it's also a magnet for people evading blocks and bans (including long-term abuse cases who need to be denied recognition, and preferably denied opportunity; cf. the thread immediately above). There are few, if any, legitimate IP posts there and I see no reason in policy not to treat it like any other page on the wiki. Of course, if Jimmy objects and intends to maintain it himself, he has the the buttons to unprotect it. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:36, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

94.189.244.70

Hey HJ, I know you declined the request but this user is making edits again, I just thought you should be aware it did stop but now has resumed hence the recent reports! Tommi1986 let's talk! 18:35, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Tommi1986, Okay. Now I'll block them. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:47, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
Haha, okay cheers! I thought it was best to comment on your TP rather than put in yet another AIV! Tommi1986 let's talk! 18:49, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Sinn Féin

May I humbly request that you place the Wikipage Sinn Féin under indefinite semi-protected status, the page weekly is subject to WP:Vandalism from unregistered I.P's, due to it being a controversial topic/party, I think giving it protected status is long overdue. Thanks! B. M. L. Peters (talk) 03:44, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

B. M. L. Peters, I don't really see a need. It hasn't been edited at all for a week and a half and, although most IP edits are vandalism, the edit rate is not really very high. The last hundred edits go back nearly six months. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:55, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

LTA

Hello, LTA Evlekis returned today again as AshleyyourBrownNose, who have since been blocked. Can you please revoke their talk page access and disable email? They are abusing their talk page. --Ashleyyoursmile! 19:33, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Ashleyyoursmile, Well isn't he a charmer? Looks like Materialscientist beat me to it though. :) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:36, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
I honestly hope that he finds a new hobby. Ashleyyoursmile! 19:39, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
Ashleyyoursmile, Don't hold your breath. I've been blocking him, on and off, for as long as I've been an admin. We're obviously "on" at the moment, and you're flavour of the month unfortunately. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:41, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
HJ Mitchell, rather unfortunate ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ . Ashleyyoursmile! 19:45, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
Ashleyyoursmile, take it as a compliment. It's not worth dwelling on! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:48, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
Agreed, totally not worth our time. I just report them directly to the AIV. Ashleyyoursmile! 19:52, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Administrator Rights

Hi. How did you get administrator rights here? --EarnToDieGully(talk)🤘🏻👧🏻🤘🏻 17:00, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

EarnToDieGully, at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship but it usually takes years of experience and thousands of edits. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:03, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh (Requesting additional priviliges)

Hello Dear admin,

I would like to edit, basically to add some more information in the Prince Philip wikipost. Can you please downgrade the protection or allow me to edit the article? I would like to add some more information about his baptism in Greece. I will be waiting for your reply!

Kind regards,

SailorGuy117

Hi SailorGuy117, unfortunately the protection is there because the vast majority of edits from new or unregistered edits haven't been constructive in the past. You can post on Talk:Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, though, and suggest your edit there. Make sure you provide sources, and you can put {{editsemiprotected}} at the top of the section to attract attention. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:23, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

FYI: change of block

Hi, Harry, hope you're doing well. I don't know if you noticed that 2600:387:B:5:0:0:0:97 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) "killed off" no less than four BLP subjects in their most recent edits. That's pretty vicious. I went to change your 31h block to a couple of weeks, for the whole /64 range, but when I saw the range's block log, I made it 3 months. Bishonen | tålk 20:24, 20 March 2021 (UTC).

Bishonen Hey Bish, always great to hear from you! I only glanced at their contribs. I was on my phone trying to clear out an AIV backlog (doable on a smartphone, especially with Twinkle and various other helpful scripts, but much easier on a proper computer!). Your action is reasonable given the history. Looking at the history of the /64, I upped it to a year. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:19, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Four subjects for whom the bell tolled at the average age of 40, no less. That's not just vicious, it's surgically precise. And what's four times four times four? Precisely! Six and four all add up to ten, but since the killings were virtual, we're probably dealing with a binary menace, better make that two years there, stranger. I mean, if not, he or she may strike again twice as soon, and by then a preemptory block would be too late. Or would it? That's my only question. Nice to meet you, keep the penny, I'd only spend it something pointless! InedibleHulk (talk) 11:33, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Request

Hello, if you have time, can you please provide some feedback here? I'm planning to take this article to FA, and any advice would be highly appreciated. Apologies for any inconvenience. Thank you. --Ashleyyoursmile! 16:17, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Ashleyyoursmile, never an inconvenience. I'll have a look when I'm at a proper computer. Vandal whacking is easy from a smartphone. Content work not so much. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:22, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
Thank you, HJ Mitchell. Much appreciated. Ashleyyoursmile! 16:25, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
Ashleyyoursmile, it's Harry, and you're welcome! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:48, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
Sorry about that! Thanks for letting me know. Ashleyyoursmile! 17:45, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXIX, March 2021

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Back at it at Talk:Hemiperfect number

Hi there, it looks like they're back at it, immediately after expiration of your previous one month block, obiously soliciting a longer block. Edit was reverted by user IdreamofJeanie.

See also previous blocks:

- DVdm (talk) 17:15, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

DVdm, wow, the very day the block expired! I've blocked the /25 for six months. That seemed to do the trick for a month. Let me know if/when they come back. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:37, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. They'll be back on 23 September. Entirely predicatazle biznis . Cheers! - DVdm (talk) 23:47, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Saunders

Incredible work on Mark Saunders. I remember watching it live on television. I created Markham Square years ago in anticipation, but his death was the only notable thing about it. No Swan So Fine (talk) 18:23, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

No Swan So Fine, I'm sure there's plenty more to say about a 200-year-old street/square in London, especially such an affluent area. Might not be easy to source though! Thank you for the compliment. I've been doing a mini series on police shootings. I remember the incident but didn't see it live on TV. I was surprised there was no article on it. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:08, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Hi HJ. Thank you for the rangeblock on 86.98.128.0/18 for LTA. It is very much appreciated! Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 10:09, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
Hey Lugnuts. You're welcome. It's quite a big range but there doesn't seem to be much else coming from there. Your subpage is some of the best documentation I've seen for this kind of thing; it makes the patrolling admins' job much easier. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 10:33, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Hey admin

...if you're tired of blocking, here's an article on a topic that must be of interest to you: Tower Park. I mean, it's British, it's got concrete, it's a lousy article--that spells Y O U ! Drmies (talk) 22:47, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Drmies, Wow! I'll see if I can at least dig up a source or something for that! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:50, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Regarding the PR

Hello, I'm super-sorry to bother you because you're probably busy but did you get a chance to look at the article? I am thinking of nominating it by the end of March as I'd likely get busy next month. Apologies for any inconvenience. Hope you have a great weekend. :) --Ashleyyoursmile! 08:30, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Ashleyyoursmile, not an inconvenience. It's on my list. I'll get to it as soon as I can. :) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 08:43, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

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April 2021 WikiProject Military History Reviewing Drive

Hey y'all, the April 2021 WikiProject Military History Reviewing Drive begins at 00:01 UTC on April 1, 2021 and runs through 23:59 UTC on April 31, 2021. Points can be earned through reviewing articles on the AutoCheck report, reviewing articles listed at WP:MILHIST/ASSESS, reviewing MILHIST-tagged articles at WP:GAN or WP:FAC, and reviewing articles submitted at WP:MILHIST/ACR. Service awards and barnstars are given for set points thresholds, and the top three finishers will receive further awards. To participate, sign up at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_History/April 2021 Reviewing Drive#Participants and create a worklist at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/April 2021 Reviewing Drive/Worklists (examples are given). Further details can be found at the drive page. Questions can be asked at the drive talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:24, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!

Happy First Edit Day, HJ Mitchell, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day! bop34 • talk • contribs 17:05, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
@Bop34: Thank you very much for noticing! :) It's been an interesting 12 years! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:47, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!

Happy First Edit Day!

Have a very happy first edit anniversary!

From the Birthday Committee, CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 20:52, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, CAPTAIN RAJU, as I said just above, it's been an interesting 12 years! :) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:49, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Barnstar

The Barnstar of Integrity
For trying to reduce the toxicity. If only for a moment. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:44, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Agreed! Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:42, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra and Kudpung: Thank you both. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:50, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Disruptive editor from Indonesia

A few days ago, you blocked 125.167.112.0/21 (talk · contribs) for disruptive editing. The user is now disrupting with 182.1.128.0/17 (talk · contribs) and 114.125.176.0/20 (talk · contribs). (CC) Tbhotch™ 00:04, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Tbhotch, I see the former of those two has been blocked by another admin. If this is a long-term problem it might be worth documenting it on a user subpage. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:52, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Blocked

Stop icon with clock
You have been blocked from editing for a period of 3.14159... seconds for it’s April 1st. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Heymid (contribs) 23:56, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
@Heymid: You almost had me there! Wouldn't that make more sense on Pi Day though? ;) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 10:43, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
Well, I’ve always thought April 1 was the formal joke day, so I’ve always found this day more appropriate for making jokes (I could be wrong though). As you may know, I can't actually issue blocks, since I'm not an administrator. Your pretty block log is still clean ;) An administrator actually tried to block another user for 3.14 seconds several years ago, but it became 3 hours. I suppose the MediaWiki software doesn't support decimal-time block durations (not that we need that or anything...). --Heymid (contribs) 11:44, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

FL

Hi Harry. Before I retire for good, do you think there is any chance of this becoming a Featured List? If not, I won't waste my time nominating it and working with reviewers on it. Cheers, Chris. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:46, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Chris, I hope you won't retire for good. I don't always agree with you, and recent events have been ... disappointing to say the least, but it would be a shame to lose somebody who cares about our mission. I find focusing on article work and encyclopaedia building to be therapeutic, and projectspace politicking entirely more hassle than it's worth. I don't see any reason that that list couldn't become an FL, though I haven't been a regular at FLC for years. Just from a quick glance, I would suggest the referencing needs work. I would expect to see every entry referenced, preferably to a reliable source independent of the school. Most FLs are in table form in my experience, but I'm not sure if that's necessary. If you want a more detailed answer, you might be better asking at WT:FLC, but if you want someone to help with smoothing prose I'm happy to help. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:01, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
The prose is ok. Lists don't have much of it. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:27, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
  1. ^ https://www.gov.uk/government/history/past-prime-ministers
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