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Help decide the future of Wikimania[edit]

The Wikimedia Foundation is currently running a consultation on the value and planning process of Wikimania, and is open until 18 January 2016. The goals are to (1) build a shared understanding of the value of Wikimania to help guide conference planning and evaluation, and (2) gather broad community input on what new form(s) Wikimania could take (starting in 2018).

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List of protected heritage sites in Fernelmont[edit]

Hi Jane023. I've modified that page to remove the duplication of sites [1]. If there's a good reason for the two separate codes, please let me know. ~~Hydronium~Hydroxide~(Talk)~~ 07:28, 12 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Help with a missing link related to the missing articles for women writers[edit]

The page lists Eliza Dorothea Cobbe, Lady Tuite / Eliza Cobbe (1764-1850) was an Irish-born poet.But I can only find her name as being Lady Tuite, Lady Eliza Tuite - so I'm not sure why these links list her as Cobbe. Is it ok to add the name as Tuite? Am I missing something about her being peerage that makes her Cobbe? 🍺 Antiqueight chat 19:16, 18 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure what page you are looking at, but there is some info about her here. Jane (talk) 19:25, 18 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Never mind me - I was looking at the wrong woman!! 🍺 Antiqueight chat 19:26, 18 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'm back!! Another question..on Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_writers/Missing_articles#Ireland there is the list Catherine, Lady Manners / Catherina Rebecca Manners / Catherine Manners / Lady Catherine Manners / Catherine Rebecca Grey(1766?-1852), Irish poet. But on searching for details I found she is already on the wiki as Catherine Grey, Lady Manners. Should redirect pages be created using the previous red links to her or simply removed from the page of missing links as not actually missing? 🍺 Antiqueight chat 22:55, 18 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I would make the redirects, as they were probably redlinked from some source that otherwise is notable. Ideally these would also be aliases on Wikidata, but if you are uncomfortable with that, just make the redirects. Thanks for doing this! Jane (talk) 02:20, 19 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks - those are done - with 1 variation, Catherine Manners actually IS someone else - but there are redirects and hatnotes to explain for now. It's 3am so I should stop editing and sleep...Then someone can take a look and tell me if the articles are ok...ps -I know nothing about wikidata... 🍺 Antiqueight chat 03:15, 19 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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This Month in Education: [March 2016][edit]

Arab World Education Program at WISE Doha 2015

By Walaa Abdel Manaem (Wikipedia Education Program Egypt) & (Egypt Wikimedians user group)

Walaa with Mr. Rashid El Telwaty and Ms. Suad Alhalwachi
Walaa with Dr. Sherifa Atallah
Walaa with Mr. Rashid El Telwaty, Ms. Bonnie Chiu, Mr. Jake and Ms. Naadiya Moosajee.

Snippet: Education Leaders at WISE Doha 2015 introducing Wikipedia Education Program in Egypt to WISE Conference attendees, as an example of a program in the Arab World, to share their experience to inspire other universities and institutions starting new programs in the area.

WISE 2015 Sessions and Plenaries were designed around three main pillars such as the UN Sustainable Development Goals; education and the economy; fostering innovation in education systems. Each pillar examined a variety of key topics including: the linkages between education, employment, and entrepreneurship; education reform and innovation in the MENA region and Qatar; emerging models of education financing, attracting, rewarding and retaining quality teachers; and the importance of investing in early childhood development.

Representatives of Wikipedia Education Program Walaa Abdel Manaem and Reem Al-Kashif participated in WISE Doha 2015 in Qatar, the annual World Innovation Summit for Education is the premier international platform dedicated to innovation and creative action in education where top decision-makers share insights with on-the-ground practitioners and collaborate to rethink education. Also, WISE 2015 was the first global education conference following the ratification of the UN Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs) in September 2015. Contributions ranged from Arabic Brochure of Editing Wikipedia for students in WEP in Egypt and everybody who would like to edit Wikipedia without ‎problems, The Arabic version of Welcome to Wikipedia reference guideline, PDF of brochure handed out during Arabic Wikipedia Convening, Doha, Qatar, 2011 and Introduction to Wikipedia. These contributions are related to show a case study of Wikipedia Education program in Egypt and how it worked since February 2012 till the November 2015, as the seventh edition ended last October. All discussions were about the program's mechanism and what were the motivations keeping it going. The program helped increasing gender diversity and supported the featured content on Arabic Wikipedia. Wikipedia Education Program, like any other initiative, has achievements and dark sides, for that reason, the representatives had to locate both of them and how they influence the Arabic community and how the community interact with this phenomenon.


Read more about the Wikipedia Education Program in Egypt here.

Read more about the Wikipedia Education program in the Arab World here (in Arabic).

Wikipedia in Higher Education in Israel: A new for-credit elective course focusing on contributing to Wikipedia at Tel Aviv University

By Shani Evenstein (WMIL)

Amir explains about the new translation tool to students

Snippet: A first-of-its-kind, for-credit, elective course that focuses on contributing to Wikipedia has opened at Tel Aviv University and is now available to all B.A. students on campus

On October 19th a new for-credit elective course called "Wikipedia: Skills for producing and consuming knowledge"--ref--Link to the course page at the TAU website (in Hebrew) - http://www2.tau.ac.il/yedion/syllabus.asp?course=1880180101&year=2015--ref-- has opened at Tel Aviv University (TAU). The semester-long course (13 weeks) is available to all B.A. students on campus and this semester about 50 students from various disciplines are taking part in this first-of-its-kind course in Israel.

Working in small groups to correct copyrights and Non-NPOV violations

The course draws from "flipped classroom" concepts and uses "blended learning" methods, which practically means combining in-class lectures, workshops and small-group activities, as well as online individual learning. Both the Moodle learning management system (LMS) and the Wikipedia Education Extension are used to monitor the students' work and progress throughout the course.

The course has 2 main assignments - expanding an existing stub, as well as writing a new article, in the hopes that the content added during the course will assist not only the students themselves, but also future generations of learners as well as the general public. Though the course focuses on adding quality content to Wikipedia, it also aims to help students sharpen their academic skills and their 21st century skills, highlighting collaborative learning, joint online research and interdisciplinary collaborations in the process of constructing knowledge.

This course was initiated and is led by Shani Evenstein, an educator, Wikimedian and member of the Wikipedia Education Collaborative, in collaboration with the Orange Institute for Internet Studies, as well as the School of Education at TAU. The syllabus for the new course builds on the success of Wiki-Med, a for-credit elective course, which was designed in 2013 and is led by Evenstein at the Sackler school of Medicine for the third consecutive year. While Wiki-med is focused on contributing medical content to Wikipedia and is only available to Medical Students on campus, the new course is designed to accommodate students from different academic disciplines and varying backgrounds.

The course was chosen to be part of TAU's cross-discipline elective courses system ("Kelim Shluvim") and was approved by the Vice-Rector, who heads the program. In that, the course marks an important precedent in the collaboration between Academia and the Wikipedia Education Program, as it is the first time a higher institution acknowledges the importance of a course focusing on Wikipedia on a university level, offering it to all students, rather than a faculty level or individual lecturers as mostly practiced. It is our hope that other higher education institutions will follow this example and offer similar courses to students both in Israel and around the world.

Read more about the Wikipedia Education Program in Israel here.

The collaborative production in open educational environments: Is Wikipedia an answer?

By Melina Masnatta, Wikimedia Argentina

Snippet: University professors become Wikipedians in an online course during just a week.

How to be a Wikipedian in a week (educactional MOOC for university professors)

Educators with different profiles and from different latin america countries, but most of them professors at the University of Buenos Aires (UBA) from different faculties, have just participated in the online training and free course "Educational scenarios with technology. Among the real and the possible" organized by the Center for Innovation in Technology and Pedagogy (CITEP) of this university.

Different educational activities were carried out simultaneously. During the week and under the topic “Open movement”, Wikimedia Argentina participated with three different proposals: starting with an interview of Patricio Lorente accompanied with a short text to know more about the movement. To make an immersive experience we designed " Knowing Wikipedia by first-hand or Wikipedia in the first person" to work directly on the platform translating articles from english to spanish from a list created especially for that purpose. Along with this specific proposal, educators participated in a videoconference with Galileo Vidoni (available in Spanish), where participants could talk and learn more about how are the first steps to become a Wikipedian and the importance of the movement at the local and regional level.

A professor´s educational experience with Wikipedia explained with a tweet. He said: "I´m translating, enjoying and learning with Wikipedia". Know more experiences on Storify.

With only seven days and without being mandatory, different educators discovered how to edit on Wikipedia, indeed many of them mentioned that they had it as a pending to learn and participate on the free encyclopedia, but never had the time or the real chance. The enthusiasm was also present on social networks, where they shared the experience with the hashtag #escenariostec.

The result

More than 100 educators got involved and exchanged their experience in an online forum with more of 280 messages that reflected their learning process while experiencing with the activity. 80 of them were new users, and they created 61 new articles in spanish. An important fact: 78 of them were women, which means that working with educators is a key issue to continue closing the digital gender gap.

Finally from CITEP, they shared the following insights regarding the question that ran through all the activities that took place during the week dedicated to the open movement. Some thoughts can be sum up as follows:

The collaborative production in open environments: chaos or construction? (...) For the teacher also means accepting new challenges: encourage students to produce knowledge in an environment of divergent nature, it requires permanent operations and convergence. In a space that fosters interventions unmarked, the teacher needs to frame depending on the purpose of education and teaching purposes. (…) Wikipedia is the best example of the challenges posed by the digital era in the educational field, it forces us to rethink the relationship between technology and the production of knowledge and allows us to confirm that the collaborative work does not lead to chaos, if not to the construction. (. ..) [Authors: Angeles Solectic and Miri Latorre]

We share some of the voices of the protagonists in social networks with storify (available in Spanish). Read more about the Wikipedia Education Program in Argentina here.

Collaboration with Masaryk University turns official

By Vojtěch Dostál (Wikimedia Czech Republic)

Masaryk University employees are being trained in using and editing Wikipedia
Marek Blahuš, Wikipedian in residence at Masaryk University

Snippet: The second largest university in the Czech Republic has employed a Wikipedian in residence, leading to a boom of Wikimedia activities in the city of Brno.

Collaboration between Wikipedia and Czech institutions has always been a priority for Wikimedia Czech Republic, but the year 2015 has taken this to another level. First, an official memorandum of collaboration with the National Heritage Institute (NPÚ) was signed in May 2015, to be followed by official collaboration with Masaryk University in Brno (the second largest city and university in the Czech Republic), which was contracted in November 2015. In fact, Wikimedia activities in Brno have been blooming for several years now, mainly as a result of the community's own development, but aided substantially by the external interest in Wikipedia by Masaryk University alumni society, demonstrated as early as March 2013.

In February 2015, the university employed one of the most experienced Czech Wikipedians – Marek Blahuš (Blahma) – who was appointed to become the university's first "Wikipedian in residence". Marek Blahuš has been in the center of the Wikimedia community in Brno for about two years, organizing regular Wikipedia meetups, the 2014 edition of the annual WikiConference (more in English here) and creating the Czech-Slovak Wikipedia translation tool, which has famously led to the creation of >9000 articles on Czech and Slovak Wikipedias (more in English here). His current work as Wikipedian in residence is funded by Masaryk University and runs under the patronage of Wikimedia Czech Republic as well as Masaryk University's rector Mikuláš Bek.

Since February, Wikipedia has taken a prominent role within Masaryk University. Marek Blahuš started a "Masaryk University Wikipedians team", gathering local Wikipedians and facilitating contacts with the university, aided by his status of a graduate and current employee in its language center. Articles about Masaryk University alumni and faculties have been identified and improved after consultations with Masaryk University archives and libraries which provided helpful resources. Wikipedia citation templates can now be directly generated from the university's on-line archive of theses. In September, a public conference called "Masaryk University Is Getting High on Wikipedia" took place on university grounds, featuring the experienced Wikipedian Jan Sokol (Sokoljan), who is a philosopher, university teacher and a former presidential candidate. The talks focused on the use of Wikipedia in university education, in line with the successful Czech "Students Write Wikipedia" program. One of the teachers, Jiří Rambousek, expressed his desire to organize a Wikipedia Club as a regular meetup where articles would be improved in a collaborative effort and new editors introduced to Wikipedia.

The program is actively preparing for 2016 when we expect Wikimedia Czech Republic to take a more active role in overseeing the initiatives as well as the creation of a position of a "Wikipedian in Brno" – person officially in charge of the wide array of Wikimedia activities happening in the city. The chapter's annual plan includes initiatives to increase the number of university courses which incorporate Wikipedia into the curriculum, public presentations of Wikipedia at various events, scanning and uploading of images from institutional and personal archives, and much more. Let's wish that our plans come true!

Read more about the Wikipedia Education Program in the Czech Republic here.

Wiki expeditions, animation clips about alebrijes and more at the Tec de Monterrey in Mexico

By Leigh Thelmadatter (Wiki Learning-Tec de Monterrey)

Group photo of Reto Wikimedia participants at Tec de Monterrey, Mexico City Campus

Snippet: Student participation is more than just text!

For the Fall 2015 Wiki Learning-Tec de Monterrey held two wiki expeditions in Mexico City and began a collaboration with the Museo de Arte Popular. We also received our first grant!

Wiki expeditions[edit]

The 32-campus Tec de Monterrey system has each semester an event called "Semana i" (i Week), when students forego normal classes for an entire week to work on challenging projects called "retos." For the Mexico City and Santa Fe campuses, one option for students was to work with Wikimedia, with the aptly named projects "Reto Wikimedia." Both campuses opted to do wiki-expeditions to different parts of Mexico City. The Mexico City campus had the larger group with almost 90 students registered, who covered the two southern boroughs of Xochimilco and Tlalpan. The Santa Fe group had 35 participants, and covered the San Ángel neighborhood found not far from this campus.

Both campus took photos of landmarks with the Mexico City campus also focusing on photos of everyday life in the south of the city. The Mexico City campus tallied 5264 photos, 8 videos and 36 articles, including articles related to the area into French, Swedish and Danish. The Santa Fe group tallied 605 photos, and ten articles in Spanish on landmarks in San Ángel.

In addition, the Mexico City campus had a special speaker the borough chronicler of Xochmilco, Sebastián Flores Farfán. A short montage video of the event is in the works.

Some student photos:

Some video clips of the event:

Animation clips with the Museo de Arte Popular[edit]

Animation about alebrijes

Wikiservicio, students working with Wikimedia for their community service requirement, added a new component. To attract more students and encourage more students to do all of their community service hours with Wikimedia, a collaboration was set up with the Museo de Arte Popular (MAP)... the first of many we hope! Six students from the digital art and animation major (see last newsletter) have continued working with Wikimedia, but focusing their efforts in creating short animation clips in relation to the mission of promoting and preserving Mexican folk art. One clip has been completed and can be see to the right of this text. So far, the video has subtitles in English, German, French and Punjabi. A second clip is nearing completion at the time of this writing.

Classes and Wikimetrics[edit]

Fifteen students completed work with Wikiservicio doing translations, writing new articles and doing photography projects. As of this date, 7 have indicated interest in working with Wikiservicio on campus and another six with MAP.

Five university level classes and one high school class on the Mexico City (South) campus have had projects, all in writing and translation, with some video work.

Wikimetrics for the semester are:

According to Wikimetrics tool....

  • 9,589,918 bytes to Spanish Wikipedia
  • 3,098 edits to the mainspace of Spanish Wikipedia
  • 367 pages created in the mainspace of Spanish Wikipedia

Manual count

  • 302 student and teacher participants
  • 281 Spanish Wikipedia articles created or expanded
  • 6,057 photographs
  • 10 videos
  • 9 articles in English Wikipedia
  • 2 articles in French Wikipedia
  • 1 article in Swedish Wikipedia
  • 1 article in Danish Wikipedia

First grant Wiki Learning received its first grant from the Wikimedia Foundation. The long-term goal of this grant is to establish a system for financing Wiki Learning. The grant, which totals a modest 12,500 Mexican pesos, will be used for swag, such as t shirts, stickers, buttons, etc, especially for Semana i activities and promotion of wiki activities to other campus. The money will also be used for incidental travel expenses, especially for projects needing to move expensive camera equipment.

Read more about the Wikipedia Education Program in Mexico here.

Wikimedia Argentina, about the global and local in the digital and academic communities

By Christian Cariño (Wikimedia México) and Melina Masnatta (Wikimedia Argentina)

Wikipedia Education Program in Argentina

Snippet: Aprender para Educar writes about Wikipedia Education Program in Argentina.

The digital free magazine Aprender para Educar (Learning to educate) of the National Technological University (UTN) is recognized in the community of education and technology in Argentina to write about innovation issues in Spanish, which is not common in the academic dissemination and teacher training field.

Cristina Velazquez, general editor of the magazine invited Wikimedia Argentina to write an article that generally describes their activities in the Education Program, after reading the proposal she decided to publish it as the main article of the 12th edition.

To describe the education program, WMAR wrote two notes completing one another, as doing a zoom: from the local to the global and from the global to the local, showing how a movement of this magnitude does not stand alone, it is part of a huge network.

Melina Masnatta, education manager in WMAR and Patricio Lorente, chair of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees wrote those two notes.The first one focuses on the Education Program, implementation, challenges and obstacles that they had at the beginning, plans to integrate it into the classrooms in Argentina and how different Wikimedia Projects are also relevant in education. The most important thing, Melina adds, is to strengthen the values that inspire them, show how the free culture give meaning to education in general and digital culture in particular.

Meanwhile in the second part, Lorente focuses on the global movement, the community pillars, the agenda of today's challenges and the effort of their volunteers as protagonists. It is not easy show the world what drives us and why we work as volunteers in different countries. In education very few people understand the value of building free knowledge. There is still a great prejudice or negative perceptions of Wikipedia in the classroom because teachers ignore how Wikipedia is built.

Everybody reads Wikipedia, but few people edit it. We can change this fact by spreading in spaces such as the Journal of the UTN and inviting more people to collaborate and be the protagonist of this huge collective work for humanity.

Read more about the Wikipedia Education Program in Argentina here.

Online ambassador played a prominent role in helping Egyptian students to nominate their excellent content

By Walaa Abdel Manaem (Wikipedia Education Program Egypt) & (Egypt Wikimedians user group)

Bassem Fleifel

Snippet: Online ambassador helped spanish students course in Cairo University to nominate their articles, scoring an exceptional record of WEP excellent content.

Bassem Fleifel, an online ambassador of Cairo university spanish course, played a prominent role to help all students to encourage them to nominate their excellent content to be a featured and good articles in Arabic Wikipedia. Those articles are History of bread (Featured article); Walt Disney; Daniel Radcliffe; Al-Andalus; Poet in New York; and Popol Vuh.

The seventh term, the program started in Cairo University with promoting posts on Wikipedia and social media websites to help new participants understand the general idea of the program as well as holding meetings with professors from the departments of History, chinese, English language and Spanish language. Walaa Abdel Manaem (program leader in Cairo University) and Bassem Fleifel (online ambassador) have held some workshops in campus and online for the whole students to teach them "How to edit Wikipedia". On the other hand, Prof. Abeer Abdel-Hafiz has exerted great efforts with her students in addition to introducing Walaa to new classes of senior students for whom she has organized general seminars about Wikipedia and the education program. At the same time Walaa was assigning her Spanish department students of the first and second year to edit Wikipedia.

This term, Prof. Abeer let the chance to her students to choose any articles they would like to translate from the Spanish Wikipedia to the Arabic Wikipedia or working on articles about history. They already have chosen some articles to translate with the target of nominating them to be a featured and good articles.

Most of students worked on articles about different topics like history, writers, actors, history of food and drink, mayan literature, islam and politics, etc. This course itself achieved an exceptional record of Wikipedia Education program excellent content and the best term ever in the history of WEP in Egypt in general and in the Faculty of Arts, Cairo University in specific. Walaa has held 2 online webinars to follow up with her students in addition to the workshops held at the campus. Regarding numbers, 38 students joined this course, of which 35 are female and 3 are male students. They worked on 1748 articles adding more than 12,282,943 million bytes to the article namespace on the Arabic Wikipedia, with the help of the online ambassador, who also participated as a student.

See the course page of this group on the Arabic Wikipedia here.

Full statistics of WEP in Egypt the first term in 2012 till the seventh term in 2015 which include numbers of created articles, featured and good articles, featured portals and lists.

Read more about the Wikipedia Education Program in Egypt here.

Norwegian Masters students in History and Archeology twists their brains on Wikipedia

By Jorid Martinsen (Wikimedia Norge)

Jorid Martinsen teaching students at the University of Oslo about Wikipedia.

Snippet: This fall masters students in History and Archeology at the University of Oslo take on the task of Wikipedia editing as one of the main parts in a subject on communication of History.

The University of Oslo is Norway’s largest higher education institution, and it is the first time Wikimedia Norway collaborates with this University in forming and using Wikipedia editing as a integrated part of higher education. The collaboration started by Wikimedia Norway contacting assistant professor John McNicol, who already had gotten some media attention on his eagerness to make students skilled in knowledge sharing.

Starting off with a two hour lecture on the secret world of Wikipedia and a two hour editing workshop in mid-September, and in October the students will evaluate the life of their articles. Has there been many additional edits on their articles? Discussions? Request to delete everything? For Wikimedia Norge it is fun to see the students both engaging in Wikipedia editing and using the ways of Wikipedia to discuss how knowledge is formed.

Read more about the Wikipedia Education Program in Norway here.

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"Women are everywhere"[edit]

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for all you good work on Wikidata:Wikidata:Europeana Art History Challenge Sudowoodoo (talk) 20:38, 29 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! You too. I am enjoying the art, Jane (talk) 20:43, 29 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nilüfer Demir[edit]

Hi Jane. To use this photo in the article about the photographer you need a separate fair use rationale.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:17, 30 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

OK thanks. I guess I will just re-use the one from the other article. Oddly, that article reads as if it is the only photo taken, but in fact there were many (e.g. the Ai Wei Wei art performance on the beach used the sideways one). Jane (talk) 07:45, 30 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It would be great if someone could write to her and ask to transfer just one photo (obviously, not this one) into public domain to illustrate the article. This would solve all the problems. But I am not this type of person.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:50, 30 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Well yes, because there were of course tons of pictures taken that day. What I think is fascinating is that she has kept silent and the documentary made about the photo does not include a fresh interview with her because "she was ill" (as if a documentary is made in one day or one week...). I suspect there is more going on and we will never know the whole story. I just re-read the whole deletion discussion and the "cow on the highway" in that discussion is also really strange. Jane (talk) 07:55, 30 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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should be fine now. Jane (talk) 09:41, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Flower-holder[edit]

hope you do not mind my messing around with the infobox (artwork does not have an embed function, who knew?) feel free to revert if you do not like it. cheers. Sudowoodoo (talk) 19:48, 12 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work! Great you found a free photo - I looked but couldn't find one. Jane (talk) 20:15, 12 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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We may disagree on the encyclopedic value of some articles, but I still appreciate your efforts to increase the cultural coverage of Wikipedia. But pretty please, do take a look at WP:N. Cheers,

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Thank for the kitten, but I really am curious which of my articles you find non-notable and why. Jane (talk) 05:40, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
In addition to Pride and Joy: Children's Portraits in The Netherlands 1500-1700, the following recent articles of your fail WP:GNG as written: Frans Hals catalog raisonné, 1989, Frans Hals catalog raisonné, 1974, Still-life paintings from the Netherlands, 1550-1720, Abraham's Sacrifice of Isaac, Paraphrase E, Studio with Gloves, An Overshot Mill in Aberdulais, Wales, Lithuanian Girl with Palm Sunday Fronds. I just looked at the first few dozens of your newer articles, but I hope you see the trend.
A painting has to show it is important by being discussed by others, mere inclusion in some exhibitions is not enough. You can write such sections, for example the Interpretation section of The Abduction of Ganymede makes it clearly notable. Eye in the Egg is borderline, the story in the middle paragraph might be sufficient, but really, did nobody ever write a short article analyzing this piece we could cite? Same for Young Gardeners, the one sentence of analysis is really begging the question - is there more? Because one sentence is not really enough, if this is all the outside sources have on that.
See also recent comment by User:Fram at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gaberbocchus some of the old favourites. Also, I'd like to note that I am advising you on this not as someone who disregards or does not comprehend time and effort that go into content creation; in fact I have myself created a number of art-related articles such as Coffin portrait or Astronomer Copernicus, or Conversations with God, to name just a few. Finally, look at History of Civilization in Poland - I just spend 30 minutes with a small expansion justifying the notability of this cycle ([2]). This kind of stuff is necessary to make articles on art pieces (or books, series, collections, etc.) fit in an encyclopedia. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:16, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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thanks! The name shouldn't matter. Anyone can click the update button. Did you try it? Jane (talk) 05:49, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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About TED speaker challenge announcement on jawp[edit]

Thank you for the announcement of TED speaker challenge on ja wikipedia. Unfortunately, your post was reverted since the page you posted it is not for such kind of announcement. Probably, ja:Wikipedia:お知らせ is better, or you can ask for help on ja:Wikipedia:Help for Non-Japanese Speakers. Sorry for my poor English and thank you again for your contributions.--Karasunoko (talk) 09:03, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! No problem, I will try to repost it there. Jane (talk) 09:06, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Notability of Pride and Joy: Children's Portraits in The Netherlands 1500-1700[edit]

Jane, pretty please, consider WP:N. Pride and Joy: Children's Portraits in The Netherlands 1500-1700 is one of several articles of yours which seems to fail at that. It pains me to see so much good effort on your part wasted on articles which are, well, not encyclopedic. I sincerely appreciate your efforts to improve the coverage of art-related topics, but not all artists, paintings or catalogues are notable. I usually focus on nominating company/vanity spam for deletion, but when I stumble upon content such as that, well, the rules should be applied to all articles. Pretty please, try to understand the GNG policies, improve your articles if you can (I can help by listing those which are in danger of deletion), and when you are choosing topics for your future contributions, please try to chose ones which won't be in danger of deletion. Once again, I (and I am sure many others) appreciate your efforts but Wikipedia is not a directory of all paintings, exhibits or their catalogues, only the important ones. And importance is not defined as "some museum/ministry liked it", but with the logic of GNG, which primarily requires that you show that a given painting/etc. has received in-depth coverage in reliable sources. Your catalogue, which seems to be sourced only to its own page, very much fails at that (and again, it pains me to say that, because it is a pretty table that likely took you hours to create...). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:32, 10 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Piotrus, I am very surprised and sorry you find this article to be non-notable. The exhibition has been cited again and again for its breakthrough articles on depictions of family life in 17th-century Dutch portraiture. I see absolutely no evidence of it failing our notability guidelines for the visual arts. It seems you place a lot of weight on external links to museums as spam, but to me, museums are not spam, but institutions that help us further our mission in spreading the sum of all knowledge. Jane (talk) 09:46, 10 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"The exhibition has been cited again and again". That's wonderful. Would you mind adding those cites to the article? I recommend the format "John Smith has praised this exhibition for...[ref]. Jane Smith has noted that this exhibition... [ref]. Director of Museum of Foo, Mr. X, has described it ia... [ref]. Etc." --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:51, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Go ahead and pick any of the ones you found with your helpful link. I find the codart link to be enough. Jane (talk) 06:59, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note about "TED speaker challenge" announcement on Wikipedia talk:Village pump[edit]

Hi Jane023, just to let you know, I've moved the announcement to Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive 53#TED speaker challenge since Wikipedia talk:Village pump is for discussing the Village pump itself. Happy editing! CabbagePotato (talk) 07:32, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Merci[edit]

Thank you for having shown me how to create a new entry in wikidata. I really appreciate. Very helpful.--LaMèreVeille (talk) 07:33, 26 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

TED speakers challenge[edit]

Hi Jane023, I haven't been using wikidata much (yet) and I have a couple of questions about the "referenced statements" needed for the TED speakers challenge. I think I understand what a refenced statement is: for example "award" > "Dutch design Awards" and the referenced means for example that you ahve added "imported from Dutch wikipedia".

I have the following questions:

  • If there is for example already a property "award received" and one award has been mentioned: when I add a second award (+ a reference) does that counts as "adding one referenced statement"?
  • Does it count when I add an identifier? (Like ISNI?)
  • What is the best way to add a ted talk (as a statement) to the wikidata profile of someone?

Thanks, Ecritures (talk) 14:16, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes! Except "imported from Wikipedia" is not a valid reference. I often use "reference URL" as the reference property and put the reference link in there. There is no way to add the talk directly to the speaker item, but all speakers have a talk that links to them and they all have a Ted talk id. Thanks for your work! Jane (talk) 04:29, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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outreach:Talk:TED conferences/TED speakers challenge/Lessons learned is this the page you intended to link? Wanted to check because it's empty and has no corresponding main page czar 21:33, 19 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yup you are fast! I will go fix them all now, thx Jane (talk) 21:36, 19 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Holy Kinship[edit]

Very nice article, and one I'm glad to see. Would you mind if I gave it a light copyedit? Kafka Liz (talk) 00:06, 26 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Go ahead! That's what it's there for. Jane (talk) 06:06, 26 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Integrating Wikidata information into World Heritage infoboxes[edit]

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Exposition des primitifs flamands à Bruges[edit]

Thank you for your brilliant work at Exposition des primitifs flamands à Bruges!! You found an amazing amount of images, nearly all the ones we can reasonably expect to ever have an image of. Perhaps we can get this article recognised as a featured list? Just one thing though: I utterly dislike the Wikidata links. They are ugly clutter, useless for 99.9% of the readers. Wikidata is a parallel universum which should be avoided as much as possible in my view, apart from interwikilinks. The information usually can be found at the source given (RKD usually), which is much more interesting and userfriendly, and won't be vandalized. Can we please get rid of the links to Wikidata? Fram (talk) 06:44, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Glad you like it. The Wikidata links for collections are confusing and I will remove those on the next update (I was unaware that they slipped in there). The Wikidata links to the paintings are important because that is where the references reside such as the RKD reference and/or BALaT reference. It is also the place where updates to the metadata for these paintings are most likely to occur (change of attribution or ownership, addition of depiction tags or iconclass data, etc.). I was only able to update this list thanks to Wikidata. The job of finding the paintings is much simpler when the metadata (owner/collection, measurements, attribution) is plugged into such databases, though they themselves are far from complete. Never underestimate the power of Google (and especially image-search, whether the file is on Commons or not!). Jane (talk) 09:40, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
?The references are in the article, they may also be on Wikidata but that is not the priamry place they should be on. I don't consider it likely that Wikidata will get an update of attribution very often, not that many people edit it (and barely anyone simply reads it). The only result is that our article will have one attribution, and RKD another one, which may be better and may be a lot worse. A link like [3] (first painting in the article) doesn't add anything but visual clutter to the list. Having the Wikidata links in Commons seems fine but sufficient to me. I agree that Google image search is a wonderful tool though. Fram (talk) 09:56, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
English Wikipedia is not a primary place for references on art-related things or the Flemish primitives or indeed anything Belgian, in my opinion. Wikidata is much better for that because of all the ongoing collaborations with Dutch, Belgian and other European institutions. I was unaware of all the reattributions until I dove into this dataset and was very surprised to see how many have changed attribution over the past 100 years. For the 17th-century painters this is much less common. I was also surprised to see that 34 of the 300 paintings found so far are today considered to be by Hans Memling, and 50 of the 300 paintings found so far are in US museums. One great advantage of Wikidata is the power of the query editor, which makes it fun to do all sorts of fun things with this dataset, such as view the timeline of the birthdates of the currently attributed creators of the 300 paintings here. Jane (talk) 10:45, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It's not about "English Wikipedia", it's about this article. A single link (perhaps in "external links"?) to [4] would serve the same purpose without having three hundred or so "two square colours" in a list which will guide people to another page which only functions a a guide to yet further pages, if they are lucky that is (often it only gives the same reference already used in the enwiki list anyway, or no reference at all). Fram (talk) 11:02, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree that there is no reference at all. Each Wikidata item has at least one external reference directly to the catalog page where the original owner, the measurements, and the description is given. In addition to that, they often have direct links to the museum website. The Metropolitan Museum of Art has extensive information available for all 20 of the paintings in their collection and these can be consulted online. It is also because of Wikidata that I was able to update the blue links in the title column. Presumably there are many more notable paintings worthy of separate Wikipedia articles, since currently only 30 are available in English Wikipedia, whereas this query returns 48 results where Wikipedia articles have been created in at least one Wikipedia language for some reason. Oh and that Wikidata item you call clutter also has the link to the catalog, though I also totally agree that the current Wikidata user interface does not "invite" you to click on it! Jane (talk) 11:36, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The Metropolitan Museum paintings were already (and still are) linked directly from the Exposition article, no need for anyone to go through Wikidata. The catalogue was and is also already linked from exhibition article. The current layout of the list gives the impression that the references are there as reference for the two obscure coloured squares, which of course is wrong. Having 350 of these visually annoying and confusing links which in most cases offer nothing we didn't already have in the article is of very limited and dubious value. Fram (talk) 11:52, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Map of where the paintings are today - spread around the world (click through for the live query that generated the picture
Using the per line linked item, you can actually click through to the actual catalog page now, whether it's the 1902 catalog or the online Metropolitan catalog. That was not previously possible. Just giving one link to a general catalog just means the reader has to page through the catalog to get to the catalog number which he then needs to remember. Having the data on Wikidata allows quick checks for updates across other projects, which could be anything from sales or theft to new insights in copies etc. I also uploaded a map of the locations - you can't easily do that without the data-behind-the-data, in this case the coordinates of the collections themselves. Jane (talk) 13:17, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Something like that map is nice, that's why I said that a single link to the Wikidata page about the exhibition ("what links here" or any better link) is a possible addition for the "external links" or other bottom section (where it can be added as a text link, with some actual explanation of where the reader is taken to). It doesn't justify the 300+ mystery links though. A reader first has to guess what they mean, and then has to find the right item (property, whatever) to get to the actual link to whatever reference may be included. It's the kind of obscure insider stuff we could better do without if we can't make it a whole lot more userfriendly. As an example, I took randomly painting 201. Upon arriving at Wikidata, I'm greeted by a different title, and page with the following information (and I get a lot on my screen, I use a tiny font): it's a painting (I knew that...), it's a religious painting (yep, knew that as well), and it depicts Jesus Christ (no kidding). That's all of the first page. How many readers will scroll further down? Scroll one page down: depicts Peter and a Miracle, it's made in oil paint, it has a link to an image (which I already had directly in the article I come from), it was exhibited at the ... oh wait, that's the article I come from; and it was "incepted" in 1520 Gregorian. Finally, further down, I get the reference: RKD: which could be found in the Expo article directly. So my trip to Wikidata has not given me anything useful. OK, you can make such location cards and whatever, but 99% of the readers would have no clue that this was possible or how to do it. To me, and I fear to many readers, such a link is not a service but a frustration. Fram (talk) 13:46, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes I will completely commiserate on the interface - it really is not user-friendly at all. However I will say that it is just as user-friendly as Wikipedia is to the uninitiated, or as Commons is to the uninitiated. In your expedition to the Wikidata item page that you so helpfully described, I see that you still missed the link to the catalog. This is in fact hidden under the reference to the catalog code statement. When I say reference, I mean the Wikidata term for reference (yeah I know this is confusing stuff, believe me!) and not the external identifier to RKD which comes at the bottom of the list of statements. So, you were almost there, but not quite. Try it with nr. 250 for example, which gives more info than what you had. For initiated Wikidata users, they know where to scroll and click, but I will be the first to admit that it comes across as bewildering the first few times. About the map - apparently someone has already figured out a way to embed a map into a Wikipedia page with a template (so not with some gigantically long url). Once I figure out how to actually use that template I may add it to the bottom of the page. Jane (talk) 14:31, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(outdent) The links to the catalogue page; we could turn the catalogue number in the current "exposition" page into such links. I looked at your example, the Pieter Pourbus from the Groeninghe. Wikidata gives me an extra reference, but that goes to [5] which isn't much use. Only when I clicked on "data (html)" did I get to a useful page. Again, I doubt many readers will ever get this far if it is this hard to find. That same reference is also given in the second Wikidata section, and then comes the link I gave above as "useful". By now, I feel like I'm going around in circles :-) We then get the same useless Groeninge reference again in the third and fourth section, and the fifth, and so on... Have you guessed that I really don't like Wikidata?

Much better would be to add the catalogue link and any really useful links to the exposition article directly; give the useful stuff directly, easily accesible to the reader, and hide the mostly useless bits. Fram (talk) 14:43, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well I will concede that in the context of Wikipedia, the q number doesn't get you anywhere (yet). I do foresee in the near future however a possibility to generate the data inline from Wikidata (such as the current collection, but most notably the sitelinks to Wikipedia, so if someone creates an article about the painting or the collection then the table will update with a bluelink automatically). I don't mind adding the catalog link to the catalog number on the page - this is what I did for the Commons gallery - is that what you mean? Jane (talk) 14:51, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the change, much better. I added the current location of one work I accidentally found[6]. Do you think this page is ready for a "Featured List" attempt? Fram (talk) 16:32, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Wow that's a great image! An amazing find, as I never even heard of Du Mouchelles. I uploaded it over the old one. I have also found a couple more images, but I think I will just create items for the rest and hope someday more can be found. Considering that Belgium went through two devastating wars since the exhibition it is pretty amazing to have found more than 3/4 of them anyway. I am no expert on the B/A/Good/Featured system and have no idea how that works, but you are welcome to try. If I update again it will be to add images and item numbers for the lines currently lacking them, so I won't overwrite your last change. Jane (talk) 17:19, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  1. 112: I corrected the old location (after rereading the catalogue entry), and I now think this is most likely http://balat.kikirpa.be/photo.php?path=X059199&objnr=85634&nr=7. The dimensions are not exactly the same, but to get another triptych in the same church with the exact same composition seems highly unlikely. If you agree, feel free to add it (and the picture to Commons), it's one empty spot less in what is already an impressive list. Fram (talk) 14:12, 9 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nice find! I uploaded it and added it. Looks like the description fits and it is still in the same family collection. Jane (talk) 16:04, 9 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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December 2016 at Women in Red[edit]

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December 2016

Two new topics for our online editathons
Women in Aviation and Women in the Military
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100wikiwomen article[edit]

Hallo Jane023, please don't forget your article for today as promissed on nl: Wikipedia:Wikiproject/Gendergap/100wikiwomen. Best Regards, Robotje (talk) 15:03, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. - Robotje (talk) 05:18, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Best wishes for the holidays...[edit]

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Wow - super nice, and very inspiring article - I had no idea those have never been lent out, so thanks! Jane (talk) 14:27, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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A barnstar of deep recognition for all your efforts on Women in Red throughout the year. Enjoy the end of year festivities and prepare to put more women on the world map in 2017. --Ipigott (talk) 08:50, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Working on women and women-related topics is challenging, depressing, inspirational, and very very educational. I know so much more about all of the "gaps" now that I can't believe I was so ignorant of them a few years ago. Best wishes to you too. Jane (talk) 09:04, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Hieronymus Bosch – Visions of genius (exhibition)][edit]

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Seasons Greetings[edit]

Merry Christmas from me Jane! Thanks for your company during 2016. We have seen the percentage of articles on women rise from 15.5% to 16.77%. 20% is within our grasp and that's an increase of 11% over what we first found. Hope to meet you again next year Victuallers (talk) 16:08, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, and thank you too for all your work this year. My personal gendergap index has gone up from 6.2% in 2013 (cumulative since 2006), to 7.7% in 2014, in 2015 13.6%, and now 17.1% (and the year isn't over yet). Hopefully I can get it above 20% next year and beat the Swedish Wikipedia percentage, but they have *big plans* in 2017 so I may not be able to without forfeiting some male bios (and I wouldn't want to do that!). Jane (talk) 16:30, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Jane, best wishes, Great work on paintings and TED! (I see you made comment that you prefer to edit rather than add to talk pages - I agree!) but...I'm intrigued by your calculations above. Could I calculate mine? (not fluent with querying wikidata). I had an idea in London that if users could calculate their personal gender gap and their editing centre of gravity then this might encourage them to stop editing people like themselves. Might this work? Oh and I'm organising an editathon at top women's college in the UK in March. Do you know where leading Dutch women were historically educated? All the best Roger Victuallers (talk) 15:54, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Well as far as I know there is no way (yet) to use Wikidata for your own edits. I just downloaded the list of all the page creations I have made (go to contributions, scroll to the bottom and choose "Articles created". I put the list in excel with a check for male/female -- lots of pages are neither, but I decided to say a list of paintings by a female was female and a list of paintings by a man was male, etc. I suppose you could use petscan or something to get the Q numbers for your own articles (never tried it). Theoretically with all the Q numbers you could create a list (but this will only give you the gender of your articles that sort into gendered people). Jane (talk) 17:51, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for delayed answer -that sounds like a few hours - maybe some gadget maker might be inspired to do this. I think it would be a cool addition that might nudge users to be less systemically biased. All my best. Victuallers (talk) 12:43, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Actually Victuallers, I think it would be even more useful if I had a gadget that I could run to find out the number of statements per wikidata item there are for each article I have personally created on enwiki. I have said that I would be willing to "clean up my own mess" for items that were imported to Wikidata in 2013 as part of the "great interwikilink migration", but rather than clicking on each article and checking the item from there I don't know how to do this. As far as the work goes above I have no idea how long it took - it's one of many repetitive-task type of wiki things I do while watching TV. I don't think it took a whole hour of work, but I tend to make fairly repetitive articles (lots of men from a dictionary, then lots of monuments from some list, then lots of paintings from some list, then lots of women from some list, etc). Jane (talk) 12:54, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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