User talk:Mathglot/Archive 7
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Please comment on Talk:List of Presidents of the United States
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Please comment on Talk:Polish collaboration with Nazi Germany
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Earlier this year I created a user script called SearchSuite, for enhancing Wikipedia's search results.
It has some list-friendly (outline-friendly) features, such as single-spaced single-line results, sort, exact match filter, list item wiki-formatting (for ease of copying/pasting), etc.
If you are inclined to give it a test drive, let me know what you think of it.
I'm open to feedback, as well as feature suggestions. — The Transhumanist 01:55, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:National Rifle Association
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Please comment on Talk:Jan Grabowski (historian)
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I'm not sure hat you mean
Revert of my edit at Transfeminism
I do not believe you are correct when you say that I was confusing trans women with transfeminism. I was referring to male to female transsexuals taking up a women space and claiming male entitlement (which is what feminism is all about). Cis women feel their choice in identity, a choice they do not have, shows they still claim power over them. Tell me how this is not referencing feminism. Kaitlin 121 (talk) 13:17, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Kaitlin 121: Seems pretty clear to me you have been confusing them, and still are, per your comment above. To say that trans women[a] "claim male entitlement" when in women's space shows a lack of understanding either of trans women, or of the term, "male entitlement": I'm not sure which. You are no doubt right about what cis women feel about trans women, and this has everything to do with those cis women's attitudes, so that pertains to (some) women's attitudes towards trans women, and there's an article (or section) for that. And if those cis women are feminists, then it pertains to (some) (cis) feminists' views towards trans women, and there's a section for that, too, somewhere. However, it has nothing to do with transfeminism, as transfeminists are decidedly *not* up in arms about trans women "taking up women's space" since they support it. So I think you are confused about the topic of the article, and where your updates would be most relevant.
- The whole issue of trans women in women's spaces is treated elsewhere at Wikipedia with full relevance to the article topic: for example, in the article on Radical feminism, and in other articles. There's nothing wrong with your content per se, you're just trying to add it to the wrong article, imho. Your content might be more appropriate in one of the other ones. Where you say, "Tell me how this is not referencing feminism," you may be right; if you believe that, then put the material in the Feminism article, if you feel it fits there.
- When you are involved in a content dispute, which this clearly is, please follow normal dispute resolution procedures. The first of these, is to initiate a discussion on the talk page of the article, say why you think your content is appropriate there, see what other editors have to say, and try to achieve consensus for your point of view. The tips at WP:BRD (Bold, Revert, Discuss) point the way forward. While the discussion is ongoing on the Talk page, you should refrain from insisting on installing your preferred version of the article, as that might be viewed as edit warring, which is a form of disruptive behavior.
- You can also ask for help on your talk page, by adding a new section, asking a questions, and including
{{Help me}}
somewhere in the section. @Shalor (Wiki Ed): Hope this helps, Mathglot (talk) 08:23, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks Mathglot - I replied to a request for help on my talk page, but I think I see your point with this. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:04, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
Notes
- ^ The term "male to female transexuals" is viewed by many as offensive. The terms trans women (also: trans-women, transwomen) are better.
If that's the way you are saying maybe I'm not comfortable copying references
Please comment on Talk:George Washington
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Sidebar of the drag queen article
Hi Mathglot! As suggested, I opened a discussion on which sidebar should be on the drag queen article. Please leave your thoughts! :) --Bleff (talk) 21:28, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:Husan
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Please comment on Talk:Poland
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Please comment on Talk:List of English monarchs
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Beatley
I saw your post to this user, you are aware that the editor is a sockpuppet, and that there are many editors in that category. What you are saying is in line with what I know about this editor, and I would be interested if this persists in other incarnations of this editor. Would you mind to have a look? --Dirk Beetstra T C 09:22, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- Beetstra, the post was not actually *to* that user, since they are indeffed, but to the community, and listed on this user's page as it seemed like the most central place to post it. However, if a better location can be found, I would move the discussion there. If you can link the page listing Beatley's other incarnations, I'll have a look. Mathglot (talk) 09:36, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- True, not really to the user, indeed. Other users are in Category:Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Slowking4, Category:Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Slowking4 and Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Slowking4/Archive. --Dirk Beetstra T C 09:43, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- Dirk, Thanks. Will check in the coming days. (Ik woonde een jaar in de stad van Vermeer. Het is de enige stad waar ik heimwee heb, dat is niet mijn land.) Mathglot (talk) 09:49, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- 't Is toch een hele mooie stad... ik moet nog uitvinden waar ik heimwee heb, voel me eigenlijk beter in het buitenland ... --Dirk Beetstra T C 11:03, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- Dirk, Thanks. Will check in the coming days. (Ik woonde een jaar in de stad van Vermeer. Het is de enige stad waar ik heimwee heb, dat is niet mijn land.) Mathglot (talk) 09:49, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- True, not really to the user, indeed. Other users are in Category:Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Slowking4, Category:Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Slowking4 and Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Slowking4/Archive. --Dirk Beetstra T C 09:43, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
Dirk, have started in on it; please have a look at this discussion (arguably should be a subpage and not a long section). Any help and/or suggestions would be welcome. I'm not married to that format, so if you want to make it a table or do some other format change, be my guest. Mathglot (talk) 08:57, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
- You're not an admin right? So you can't see the ones that I handled with a flamethrower? --Dirk Beetstra T C 10:27, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
- Dirk, I can see them, I think, in the deletion log, maybe not presented the same way you see it. I've created the following to monitor progress: Category talk:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Slowking4#Machine translations. So far, I've been looking at the MTs by Beatley (talk · contribs) and fixed some of them; see the new maintentance templates at xxx, yyy, zzz and corresponding Talk page discussions. The other major offender is Duckduckstop (talk · contribs) who has 68 CXT translations, and possibly other cut-paste ones. I'll only be working on this sporadically, so anyone else who can help would be appreciated. Note that in the case of machine translations that were subsequently patched up so that the grammar and style is now fine, this doesn't mean we're out of the woods; the original MT could have introduced errors of fact, now papered over by grammar fixes; the template {{Hidden translation}} is available for that. Mathglot (talk) 22:57, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
- I have adapted my detection mechanism further. He is difficult to catch - although he has a lot of typical behaviour, many others share a trait or two, resulting in false positives.
- I am nowadays nuking his contributions, deny any trophies. There may be copright violations and NFCC type problems with the articles as well.
- Don’t make it a priority task, I merely asked it for future detection reasons. It is better his material geta deleted and rewritten from scratch. —Dirk Beetstra T C 03:25, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
- Dirk, I understand. If you can formulate the question(s) more specifically as far as what might help you with detection, I will try to help you more. You can add stuff now, if there's anything specific to say, or anytime in the future whenever it comes up, and I'll try to help. I'm just as interested in nailing these guys as you are. Are you mostly interested in the sock aspect of it, or also the MT aspect? Can show you one editor with several hundred MT articles that haven't been removed; have warned him, and he stops for a while, then starts up again. Mathglot (talk) 03:32, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:Horst-Wessel-Lied
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LGBT linguistics
Thanks for pointing out that. I didn't mean to remove information worded in any crucial way in the sources. It'll take a long time to begin going through them all for verification to match what it actually says in the text of the page. Anywhere, if there's any part of the edits I made that you especially liked that, or anything else you'd like to see or that you'd recommend, please let me know. Thank you. Wolfdog (talk) 22:44, 30 April 2018 (UTC) [Wow. My grammar was a mess all around yesterday. Wolfdog (talk) 15:44, 1 May 2018 (UTC)]
- @Wolfdog: I know what you mean, and I reverted with a sigh, because clearly your grammar and stylistic changes were pretty much all for the better, and yet, I didn't think it was fair to put the onus on me to have to be the one to go through everything in the sources either, but it sounds like you already sussed that out, so thank you for that. What I usually try to do in situations like this, is just edit incrementally. I'd rather see ten different edits one after the other, where if something is wrong, I can just revert (if I have to) just the one, leaving the other nine. This was kind of a case like that; I knew there was good stuff there, but I couldn't be bothered (was too lazy?) to do it myself. So, apologies for the revert, but I'm sure if you break it up into several edits, even changing nothing at all, nearly all will survive, and if you check the sources and adjust, then they all will. Thanks for taking the time to write, and happy editing! Mathglot (talk) 23:22, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for your pleasant response. I'll give it another shot soon. Wolfdog (talk) 15:44, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
Glauben können wie du
Nice to meet you. Das Grab ist leer, der Held erwacht, another of the hymns about which I wrote, is on the Main page right now. It has secondary sources because it's a bit older ;) - The new ones will become history eventually, just wait. Another deletion discussion I watched with interest was Catherine Lynch. My first article was speedily deleted, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:43, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:Jacques Goulet
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Feedback on the National Theatre of the Deaf article
Machine translations
Hi, Machine translations serve no purpose in the encyclopedia mainspace. There are a few things we can do about these: If they are from socks they can be deleted WP:G5 if they have not already been substantially improved by other editors, the point here is that they should be flagged for deletion before anyone makes any substantial edits. If the translations are still not up to standard, the pages can be moved to draft and they will be deleted G13 if they have not been edited for 6 months. Most poorly translated articles and non-Engish articles do not contribute anything much to the encyclopedia anyway, they are pages that are not urgently required. Much of Wikipedia's inclusionist philosophy stems from the early days when new content was needed. We are past that stage now and the Founder himself has said tgat the emphasis nowadays should be on quality rather than pure quantity. Working on such pages is a time sink - time that could be better spent elewhere. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:11, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:Anatolia
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Feedback round: A proposal for referencing sections of the same work more easily
Referencing multiple sections of the same work in an article is currently cumbersome. Details at VPP. Feedback requested here. Mathglot (talk) 08:08, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Reply
Hi, Mathglot. With regard to the changes to United States section in the same-sex marriage article, the changes were made in order to make the section more condense and therefore more readable, while at the same time including a broad overview of the topic's history going all the way back to the 1970s. With regard to the changes to the Public opinion of same-sex marriage in the United States article, the minor change in question was to clarify that the support in question is national support as opposed to state-level support (which the article covers extensively). Hope you have a nice day! --Justthefacts9 (talk) 00:01, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
- The reply above is not pertinent to the other discussion. --Justthefacts9 (talk) 02:21, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
- Justthefacts9 Okay, my bad. I moved the comment above to Talk:Same-sex marriage#Lead changes and disruption because it seemed to be what you were talking about. But you say that your reply above is not pertinent to that discussion, so I must have been mistaken. In that case, can you please provide a link, because now I have no idea what discussion you are referring to.
- While we're at it, you might need to refresh your memory about some of the Talk page guidelines concerning user Talk pages. Any user can delete comments on their own user page per WP:OWNTALK, even warnings by administrators (except for a few exceptions like block notices). So, if a user removes a comment of yours from their own talk page, you shouldn't add it back again. If you feel there's a need for your comment to be put back after it was removed, you could, I suppose, add another comment to ask the user to restore it, and giving your reasons for it. But I'd do that sparingly, and in any case, you shouldn't put it back yourself, like you just did. Cordially, Mathglot (talk) 03:26, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:Basketball Federation of Serbia
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Bay Area WikiSalon invitation!
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Angermuseum
Hi, Mathglot, when i translated the article, i did not see that it was really bad. Meanwhile i have re-written the german article, and could translate it, but i'm still waiting for the museum to react whether everything i wrote is correct - i thought it would be friendly to let them have a look before i translate it. Kind regards, --Gyanda (talk) 22:39, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
- Gyanda, thanks for the message. It was nice of you to think of asking the museum, but there is a downside to that, as well. Namely, you really cannot validly change the article based on anything they say, unless what they say can be backed by the kind of reliable sources that Wikipedia's verifiability policy demands. In the worst case, if they respond and say, "XYZ is completely wrong," then if XYZ is completely unsourced, you could remove that section from the article (or you could tag it with {{dubious}}, and add as the
|reason=
param, something like, "personal communication with museum director on mm/dd/yyyy disputes this"). However, if we have reliable sources for something, and the museum says it is wrong, you cannot remove it on that basis. In that case, you could, if you wanted, raise a Talk page section saying, "We have RS for 'XYZ', but the museum director told me this is wrong on <date>". - In the opposite case, if the museum provides you with missing information, you should really try to verify it independently with reliable sources. As a borderline case, if what they say seems plausible, go ahead and add it, and tag it immediately with {{citation needed}} with a 'reason' param = "asserted by museum curator in pvt email on yyyy-mm-dd without other source to confirm", or some such, but be aware of WP:PROMO and WP:PEACOCK when adding it. If a source is available, but it is from printed or online source belonging to the museum, it can be added, taking care to observe WP:PRIMARY, and perhaps tagging it, {{better source}}. If no independent source can be turned up subsequently, however, that info might have to be removed. Perhaps a better solution for any assertions suggested by the museum, would be to simply add them to the Talk page as is, and let the community decide what to do with them.
- Thanks for your efforts with this. Btw, I sometimes translate from German, but my level is only intermediate, and I sometimes have questions about it; may I call on you for help if I do? I presume you are native or high-fluency German speaker. Also, you might consider adding the {{Babel}} template to your user page. Cheers, Mathglot (talk) 22:56, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oh, one last thing: can you add something to the lead pointing out what the name means, and that it's not a museum about angry people? Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 22:57, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
- Hi, dear Mathglot, of course you can ask me if you have questions with german. I'm native german, but also do speak english and dutch. Thanks also for the very helpful advices on how to deal with reactions from the museum. As i send them an email already weeks ago, they might not even be interested, unfortunately. But if they give me info, i'll ask for independent sources to quote from, i find this very important! I didn't know anything about the museum, i just had written an article on Christiane Conrad, who has had an exhibition there and then i thought, okay, i translate the article but it really is a strange article :-). Anger is the name of a central place in Erfurt - Quote from the de:Anger (Erfurt): Die Bezeichnung Anger für den zentralen Platz Erfurts innerhalb der Stadtmauern findet sich erstmals in einem Schriftstück aus dem Jahr 1196. Vom 14. bis 17. Jahrhundert wurde auf dem östlichen Teil des Angers ausschließlich mit Färberwaid gehandelt, dem Erfurt seinen großen Reichtum in dieser Zeit verdankt. Aus dieser Periode finden sich auch die Begriffe Weidt Anger bzw. Waydanger für den Platz. and de:Anger: Der Begriff Anger (mhd. anger, ahd. angar, germanisch noch Vangr)[1][2][3] bezeichnet ein meist grasbewachsenes Land oder einen Dorfplatz in Gemeinbesitz, der von allen Bewohnern der Stadt oder des Dorfes genutzt werden konnte ... - perhaps i should add the interwiki-links to the english article. I'm going to wait for response from the museum for another week, and if they don't respond, i just translate the article anyway. Kind regards, --Gyanda (talk) 23:59, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
- Gyanda, Have a look, I've already changed the lead a fair bit, following the German and the sources, and also the chronology, and already including the part about Begriff Anger... and everything you mentioned above, including already the interwiki links, before I even saw your message. Mathglot (talk) 00:06, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
- I really love wikipedia. That people can work together to make something better. Thanks very much for your help with the article! I'll keep you updated, as soon as i hear from the museum! Kind regards, --Gyanda (talk) 00:55, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
- Kein Problem, Gyanda; bis bald, hoffentlich... Mathglot (talk) 00:59, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
- Dear Mathglot, meanwhile i got an answer from the museum. First, they accepted my newly-written article, second, they will even give us 3 or 4 good pictures, where they have all the rights, to illustrate the article. When I get them and uploaded them and did all the rightholderissues - the article in fact can be updated, isn't this nice? Kind regards, --Gyanda (talk) 16:41, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
- Gyanda, Looking forward to the pics, and good work! Mathglot (talk) 18:13, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
- Dear Mathglot, meanwhile i got an answer from the museum. First, they accepted my newly-written article, second, they will even give us 3 or 4 good pictures, where they have all the rights, to illustrate the article. When I get them and uploaded them and did all the rightholderissues - the article in fact can be updated, isn't this nice? Kind regards, --Gyanda (talk) 16:41, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
- Kein Problem, Gyanda; bis bald, hoffentlich... Mathglot (talk) 00:59, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
- I really love wikipedia. That people can work together to make something better. Thanks very much for your help with the article! I'll keep you updated, as soon as i hear from the museum! Kind regards, --Gyanda (talk) 00:55, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
- Gyanda, Have a look, I've already changed the lead a fair bit, following the German and the sources, and also the chronology, and already including the part about Begriff Anger... and everything you mentioned above, including already the interwiki links, before I even saw your message. Mathglot (talk) 00:06, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
- Hi, dear Mathglot, of course you can ask me if you have questions with german. I'm native german, but also do speak english and dutch. Thanks also for the very helpful advices on how to deal with reactions from the museum. As i send them an email already weeks ago, they might not even be interested, unfortunately. But if they give me info, i'll ask for independent sources to quote from, i find this very important! I didn't know anything about the museum, i just had written an article on Christiane Conrad, who has had an exhibition there and then i thought, okay, i translate the article but it really is a strange article :-). Anger is the name of a central place in Erfurt - Quote from the de:Anger (Erfurt): Die Bezeichnung Anger für den zentralen Platz Erfurts innerhalb der Stadtmauern findet sich erstmals in einem Schriftstück aus dem Jahr 1196. Vom 14. bis 17. Jahrhundert wurde auf dem östlichen Teil des Angers ausschließlich mit Färberwaid gehandelt, dem Erfurt seinen großen Reichtum in dieser Zeit verdankt. Aus dieser Periode finden sich auch die Begriffe Weidt Anger bzw. Waydanger für den Platz. and de:Anger: Der Begriff Anger (mhd. anger, ahd. angar, germanisch noch Vangr)[1][2][3] bezeichnet ein meist grasbewachsenes Land oder einen Dorfplatz in Gemeinbesitz, der von allen Bewohnern der Stadt oder des Dorfes genutzt werden konnte ... - perhaps i should add the interwiki-links to the english article. I'm going to wait for response from the museum for another week, and if they don't respond, i just translate the article anyway. Kind regards, --Gyanda (talk) 23:59, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
- Dear Mathglot, meanwhile i translated the german article, which i had rewritten, into english and would be very thankful, if you could look at it User:Gyanda/my new site. Oh, and you don't have to bother with the formating of references, this crazy bot always changes them to english, but with lots of unneccessary stuff, so i copied my english formating and will add this again when publishing the translation. Kind regards, --Gyanda (talk) 13:04, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
@Mathglot: - as i didn't hear from you, i thought, i try the "ping-thing". Perhaps you are on vacations, if so, i'm sorry to disturb you with it. Kind regards, --Gyanda (talk) 12:01, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
- Dear Mathglot, would you still be interested to proofread the article? It's in my namespace with "my new site". Kind regards, --Gyanda (talk) 05:53, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
Gyanda, Yes, I'd be happy to. As you guessed, I was away on vacation. Ping me again, if you haven't heard anything in a few days. Mathglot (talk) 19:57, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
registering
Hey, I replied to your invitation to register. Here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:190.173.175.155 190.173.193.85 (talk) 00:23, 31 May 2018 (UTC) Ezequiel
- Mmm, yes. Hi, Mathglot, thanks for the ping and the kind words. The reason 190.173.175.155 doesn't like me is presumably that I've blocked the 190.173.192.0/18 range for two weeks for persistent disruption of HIV/AIDS denialism, see my notes here and here. A big range to block, but I address that on the article talk page. 190.173.175.155 and 190.173.193.85, above, are outside the range I blocked, but as long as they don't edit disruptively, I'll leave them be. However, 190.173.xx, creating an account and taking responsibility for your edits would be the honorable thing to do in a case like this. BTW, do you really think quoting my joke userbox (ostensibly added by someone else, hence the third person) strengthens your case? Bishonen | talk 03:46, 31 May 2018 (UTC).
- Bishonen, Yep, I saw the range block. I didnt quote anything nor even look at your user page, but I'll do so, now, to figure out what you meant. Mathglot (talk) 03:59, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oh, now I get it; the 'quoting' comment was directed at him, not me. Btw, @Bishonen:, regarding your mention of the Range block, just a heads-up: I've placed boilerplate messages linking all the connected IP aliases I'm aware of, including at User talk:190.173.150.216 where you left the range block notice. I've appealed to Ezequiel (as he self-signs) to pay attention to WP:V and other policies at User talk:190.173.175.155#Registering an account and to maybe take a break from controversial articles he feels strongly about, and I hope that bears fruit. Adding Flyer. Mathglot (talk) 08:16, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks. Bishonen | talk 08:40, 31 May 2018 (UTC).
- Bishonen: He is now registered: (EzequielBelaus (talk · contribs)), so that's at least one small measure of progress. I believe there were some personal circumstances informing the behavior which got him blocked (if curious, see User talk:190.173.175.155#Registering an account; post of 14:49, 1 June) which doesn't excuse it, but helps explain it. I believe this editor can be a valuable addition to the project if he can avoid his TBAN area, and just needs some nurturance and mentoring in the early stages. I'm trying to provide that, but I could use assistance from mentor-willing editors. Mathglot (talk) 07:48, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Bishonen: You know what, that "joke" userbox really seemed to describe you. You blocked me because I asked a moderator to watch the dispute. It was low. It was a power-hungry type of move. I told Mathglot that my father has been diagnosed with HIV and that's the reason I'm so headstrong with it. But then there is this host of editors who will claim to abide by the Guidelines, but completely forget the guidelines when they want to apply censorship. EzequielBelaus (talk) 18:34, 9 June 2018 (UTC) Ezequiel
- "Because you asked a moderator to watch the dispute"? Nonsense. You know very well why I blocked you: for persistent disruption at HIV/AIDS denialism and its talkpage, as I explained here and here. Don't ping me again, or some less tolerant admin may block you for personal attacks. Bishonen | talk 19:55, 9 June 2018 (UTC).
- @Bishonen: Okay... just to clarify this: you hadn't seen my dispute resolution request before you blocked me? All you had watched were my edits to the HIV denialism article? If that's the case, I might believe that the request had nothing to do with it.
- And threatening me with blocks... you are just proving my points, Bishonen EzequielBelaus (talk) 21:02, 9 June 2018 (UTC) Ezequiel
- "Because you asked a moderator to watch the dispute"? Nonsense. You know very well why I blocked you: for persistent disruption at HIV/AIDS denialism and its talkpage, as I explained here and here. Don't ping me again, or some less tolerant admin may block you for personal attacks. Bishonen | talk 19:55, 9 June 2018 (UTC).
- @Bishonen: You know what, that "joke" userbox really seemed to describe you. You blocked me because I asked a moderator to watch the dispute. It was low. It was a power-hungry type of move. I told Mathglot that my father has been diagnosed with HIV and that's the reason I'm so headstrong with it. But then there is this host of editors who will claim to abide by the Guidelines, but completely forget the guidelines when they want to apply censorship. EzequielBelaus (talk) 18:34, 9 June 2018 (UTC) Ezequiel
- Bishonen: He is now registered: (EzequielBelaus (talk · contribs)), so that's at least one small measure of progress. I believe there were some personal circumstances informing the behavior which got him blocked (if curious, see User talk:190.173.175.155#Registering an account; post of 14:49, 1 June) which doesn't excuse it, but helps explain it. I believe this editor can be a valuable addition to the project if he can avoid his TBAN area, and just needs some nurturance and mentoring in the early stages. I'm trying to provide that, but I could use assistance from mentor-willing editors. Mathglot (talk) 07:48, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks. Bishonen | talk 08:40, 31 May 2018 (UTC).
Uh-oh, just saw this, which must have gone on while I was responding to you at your talk page. Ezequiel, please read what I wrote at User talk:EzequielBelaus#HIV denialism, and please stop baiting Bishonen. You're just going to get yourself blocked, and I don't want to see that happen! Can we please just cool it, and go back to editing articles about Argentine history? You were doing so well with that. Sincerely, Mathglot (talk) 21:15, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
- Gee. Okay. Let's hope that no "less tolerant admin(istrator)" will see this. EzequielBelaus (talk) 21:19, 9 June 2018 (UTC) Ezequiel
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HIV denialism
I'd like to touch again the topic of HIV denialism, and of the things that happened in the Talk Page. Go here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:HIV/AIDS_denialism/Archive_12#Neutralism_Laxness:_Critical_New_Information_Ignored_or_Deleted. To sum it up: User Milikguay tried to create a section with Luc Montagnier's claim that HIV isn't the only cause of AIDS and that co-factors are needed. Other editors, prominently MastCell, opposed him. They told him that the sources weren't reliable, they told him to read the Guidelines, they accused him of being repetitive, and threatened him with shunning. They never, in the whole discussion, refered to Luc Montagnier. Milikguay tried again and again to draw attention to that source, who is the scientist who discovered HIV. But the opposing editors never acknowledged it. This totally confirms that Wikipedia is biased. Now: I intend to edit the HIV Denialism page with a link to a documentary. In this documentary, Luc Montagnier is featured saying that HIV is cleaned out of the body if you have a good immune system. I'm wondering what arguments will be presented to not include this in the article. EzequielBelaus (talk) 18:23, 9 June 2018 (UTC) Ezequiel
- @EzequielBelaus: I've responded to this on your talk page. Mathglot (talk) 21:11, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
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Thanks
for that. I'll add it to my ever-growing arsenal. This came up somewhere else, but it was years ago and I don't remember what article. I wish I'd known then what I know now! RivertorchFIREWATER 03:31, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
Mathglot can I ask you a to help me with something on Wikipedia
On the page 2017 in LGBT rights can you mention that Botswana legalized transgender rights because it says so on wikipedia's LGBT rights in Botswana page? Also can you answer a questionbecuase I would like to know where people in Botswana — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sphinxmystery (talk • contribs) 23:01, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
- Hi, Sphinxmystery. No, you cannot use Wikipedia as a source in a footnote on another page. Since anyone can edit it, Wikipedia is not considered a reliable source, for the purpose of referencing. It looks like you might have had another question, but it got cut off in the middle. Mathglot (talk) 01:44, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
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Mathglot can you look for a reference online to add about Botswana getting transgender rights in 2017 on the 2017 in lght right page?
As I've said before, I'm not computer savy and I have a disability. Perhaps you can help me. By the way, is it Ok if I ask what pronoun you prefer? She/he/they/other? I go by she. Sphinxmystery (talk) 16:59, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
Hong Kong not a country
Hi,
There has been a edit war again about Hong Kong as it's own country. When I put it under China it gets reverted. You were in the page before on this topic at List of Air New Zealand Destinations so I thought I would contact you for help with this matter. Thankyou CHCBOY (talk) 05:23, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
I'm back
So, I'm able to edit Wikipedia again. However, I insist in what I said before: providing sources is what's wrong with this site. It gives authoritarian people a reason to keep certain things silent. I would be willing to translate articles in Spanish to English if that's needed. EzequielBelaus (talk) 00:35, 27 June 2018 (UTC) HIV doesn't exist.
- No answer? Are you tired of me already? EzequielBelaus (talk) 21:30, 29 June 2018 (UTC) HIV/AIDS doesn't exist and it's science-fiction.
- @EzequielBelaus: Welcome back. I'm away from home and can only make relatively short or easy edits for a while. I would still be interested in collaborating with you, but I don't want to have all my efforts with you go to waste if you continue to violate your T-ban and get yourself permanently blocked. If you are serious about contributing to the encyclopedia then great, let's get to it; I will help. But if you pretend not to hear what you don't want to hear from admins, then I'm wasting my time. So, which is it? Are we serious about doing some good here, or do you insist on talking about HIV?
- By the way: if the latter, there are places you can do that; just not here at Wikipedia. Would you like me to help you find a place where your thoughts on that topic would be welcome? Maybe Wikipedia just isn't a good fit for you, and you'd feel better where your concerns and efforts are appreciated. I will help you find such a place if you wish. But they're not welcome here and if you continue in this vein you will soon be indefinitely blocked. I hope that's not what's will happen, but I fear that it will happen if you don't change your approach.
- Bottom line: can you assure me that you will never raise the issue of HIV or AIDS again at Wikipedia? Because if you can't, then I'm wasting my time. Mathglot (talk) 03:58, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
- What are you talking about? All I'm saying in my messages is that I want to translate articles from Spanish to English. EzequielBelaus (talk) 13:59, 30 June 2018 (UTC) HIV/AIDS is a fraud.
- @EzequielBelaus: I'm talking about this:
- 21:30, 29 June 2018 (UTC) HIV/AIDS doesn't exist and it's science-fiction.
- and this:
- 13:59, 30 June 2018 (UTC) HIV/AIDS is a fraud.
- Are you playing me for some kind of fool? If you continue breaking your t-ban, then I feel I'm wasting my time with you. If you are serious about translating articles then please stop such comments immediately. That's what I am talking about. Can you promise me that? Mathglot (talk) 05:10, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
- @EzequielBelaus: I'm talking about this:
- What are you talking about? All I'm saying in my messages is that I want to translate articles from Spanish to English. EzequielBelaus (talk) 13:59, 30 June 2018 (UTC) HIV/AIDS is a fraud.
- I'm not so tolerant. Those comments above just got him blocked (again). Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 08:03, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
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The hat at Talk:Jesus#Date of death
I was right about to do exactly that, but you beat me to it. Considering that nothing could have possibly come out responding to that comment, except possibly more intense, pointless arguing over irrelevant fringe theories, I think that putting it in a collapse section was probably the best solution. --Katolophyromai (talk) 04:16, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
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Please comment on Talk:Albert Cashier
You have previously participated in discussions about the use of gendered pronouns in the biography of Albert Cashier. An Rfc about this topic is taking place at Talk:Albert Cashier, and your comments are welcome. self-invite for completeness Mathglot (talk) 18:07, 9 August 2018 (UTC) Done Mathglot (talk) 02:09, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
- You are certainly doing sterling work on keeping everything organised and on track! Awien (talk) 15:31, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
On a side note
I just wanted to say thank you for making sure the previous RfC participants were made aware of the revisit of the issue. I'm sure that you must have been aware that a majority of the participants of the first RfC were opposed to any major changes to the pronoun, which makes your decision to insist that they be notified (despite the fact that they might !vote against your new proposal, which was otherwise getting a lot of support) a principled one, and worth noting. I spend a lot of time answering random RfCs and I have to tell you that in the last two years I have noticed a rise in antagonism and gamesmanship as regards talk discussions on controversial topics. So it's nice to see when someone puts the consensus process before other considerations. Snow let's rap 05:38, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
- Snow, your comments are much appreciated. Yes, as you surmised, I was aware of the trend in the first Rfc. I believe in upholding the process, and think that it's worth fighting for. I'm sorry about the discussion trend you've noticed in the last couple of years; perhaps in another venue at another time we can return to that topic and see if there's some way to address it.
- I never stop learning from other editors, and the fact that you took the time to elucidate your thoughts at length even in the face of what at this point might seem to be insurmountable odds, is also much appreciated and only makes the process better. For me personally, there are several points you made I will have to reread, so I can question my own opinion and see how it might change or evolve based on what you've said. Regardless where this Rfc may end up, and on what "side" of future discussions we may end up on, you can count on me for support of the process for improving the encyclopedia. Once again, thanks for taking the time to comment at the Rfc, and for the follow up here. Mathglot (talk) 08:00, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
- My pleasure. :) Snow let's rap 18:45, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
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Ref: Constitutional democracy/Draft proposal
Greetings! I see that you are a highly skilled WP professional highly conversant with its program; As you can remember, this complex Constitutional democracy/Draft proposal had been deleted and removed from public participation/improvement on the pretended reason of lack of references that were slowly provided (I did not know the specific WP reference provision, so added them in another way; No assisting details were given, leaving me to have to provide references to every word -- there was no point in continuing on this nonsensical basis). As you did not contact me during this deletion process that culminated in my neutrally unnecessary total blockage, I assumed your silent agreement contrary to your previous high-quality contribution. A consequent dispute-resolution contact to WP's only governing body remained arrogantly unanswered (a common feature with internet-based organisations), and I am confident that you know about it. It still leaves the justified impression that WP is policed by anti-democratic governments, and propaganda-like prefers to prevent the presentation of such fundamental democracy knowledge while also disallowing the correction of other partially false articles (always against democracy) dealing with democracy-related issues. Of course, this draft proposal was directly distributed worldwide together with the Universal Democracy Constitution (also available on Scribd as "Constitutional Democracy, Universal"), as the correction/provision of this topic is too important for us all -- and it is starting to have silent effects! I thought I find out your position/opinion, although I should have done so earlier. Strangely, our entries on Talk:Constitutional democracy remained unchanged. Please give me a constructive message in any case on my user talk page (However, I am not naively expecting much change).
Here is just one more example of WP's other prevention of necessary corrective improvements:
Improvement/Correction Proposal of WP Article "Types of democracy"
The introducing sentence/section of the WP article "Types of democracy: Types of democracy refers to kinds of governments or social structures which allow people to participate equally, either directly or indirectly" should be changed as follows in order not to mislead:
Types of democracy lists governmental or social structures using democracy variations/derivates/pretences. This article relies on the broader use rather than the proper definition of the word democracy in order to achieve a complete presentation. 10/5/2018
Maybe you could activate such improvements... Greetings, Fritz Fehling (currently indefinitely blocked for no justifiable reason...) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.48.190.71 (talk • contribs) 01:10, August 13, 2018 (UTC)
- I've responded to this at User talk:Fritz Fehling#August 2018. Mathglot (talk) 02:42, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
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Human rights are "the basic rights and freedoms to which all humans are entitled" Examples of rights and freedoms which are often thought of as human rights include civil and political rights, such as the right to life and liberty, freedom of expression, and equality before the law; and social, cultural and economic rights, including the right to participate in culture, the right to work, and the right to education.Sometimes life is unfair and balanced where the response will be for a position but limited ability is limited even though there is no guilt and should be helped immediately and still have to face exceptions, namely the suitability of material, RaibowOfMountbattenOfWallaceRaibowOfMountbatten Asep Ramadhani (talk) 08:32, 10 February 2019 (UTC) |
- Collapsed per WP:TPO by Mathglot (talk) at 09:50, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
Archiving important documentation
You've blindly archived threads, some of which contained unanswered questions. They clearly do not meet the "stale" criteria for archiving. For discussions of a 1996 event, being 45 days old is absolutely no reason to archive discussions.
This is very disrespectful to the editors who contributed to those discussions, and it makes it harder for current editors to avoid mistakes previously made. Please stop doing this.
This incessant archiving (combined with the big project boxes that no one looks at but which hide the TOC and the discussions) is probably the reason why use of Talk pages is declining. This harms the fabric of the community too. Great floors (talk) 08:03, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Great floors: Your comment is apparently in reference to this revert of your edit at Talk:German orthography reform of 1996 where you moved 38,000 bytes of archived, ten year-old discussions back to the main Talk page. As is clear by the diffs, I didn't "blindly archive threads" as you claim; I merely restored the status quo ante which you disturbed. Find a Wikipedia policy that says it is "disrespectful to editors" to keep old threads archived, and I will revert myself.
- Yes, old discussions may have unanswered questions. That is the nature of Wikipedia Talk pages, and if no one responds after some time, the old discussions are archived. If you have an issue with how Archiving is done in general, try opening a discussion about it at WT:ARCHIVE. In the meantime, you can always add a new discussion to the current Talk page, along with links pointing to any archived discussion you feel is relevant.
- As for the current archive-age setting of 45 days, I believe that's quite a generous number; but it can be set to any agreed-upon value. I think your setting of eight years for the archive-age param is wildly outside the mainstream, but if you wish to seek consensus for that value on the Talk page, then by all means go for it. Mathglot (talk) 09:02, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
- For an additional note on this situation, please see this comment [permalink] at your talk page. Mathglot (talk) 09:46, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
- The page about talk pages or archiving only says that threads can be archived if they are "stale". Some or most of those threads are certainly not stale. They are relevant documents for why the article is how it is. An archive bot "blindly" archived everything. I undid the bot's mistake. What's to be gained by stuffing all those threads, that editors put work into, away in an archive? Great floors (talk) 10:21, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Great floors: A user talk page is not the place to argue for (or against) changes to existing policy. There is nothing further to be gained by continuing this fruitless discussion about established policy here. My suggestion to you, is to raise a new topic at WT:TALK referencing WP:ARCHIVENOTDELETE, and try to gain consensus for your point of view. If you do, please {{ping}} me to that discussion. Cordially, Mathglot (talk) 10:26, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
- The page about talk pages or archiving only says that threads can be archived if they are "stale". Some or most of those threads are certainly not stale. They are relevant documents for why the article is how it is. An archive bot "blindly" archived everything. I undid the bot's mistake. What's to be gained by stuffing all those threads, that editors put work into, away in an archive? Great floors (talk) 10:21, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
An update maybe
reports that two anti-#LGBT bills, including a marriage ban bill, which passed the Senate last year, have still not advanced in the lower house
https://www.voanews.com/amp/in-haiti-slight-progress-for-lgbt-rights-is-seen-as-victory/4528161.html
http://www.whig.com/article/20180814/AP/308149903
http://agenciaaids.com.br/noticia/54575/
AdamPrideTN (talk) 03:05, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
- @AdamPrideTN: Do you have a question? What is your objective of your comment above? Mathglot (talk) 10:10, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
I think u edited the page of LGBT rights in Haiti About a marriage ban And this i think is an update right AdamPrideTN (talk) 15:23, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
- @AdamPrideTN:I have made no edits to this article. But even if I had, the proper place for comments about the article, would be the article talk page. Try asking your question or providing your suggestion at Talk:LGBT rights in Haiti. Also, please use indentation on Talk pages to keep the discussion orderly; you can read about this at Help:Talk pages#Indentation. See also WP:TALK for more tips about using Talk pages. Cordially, Mathglot (talk) 01:13, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
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You're right
Sorry it was not really relevant to compare this situation to someone thinking they are a dog because as you've pointed out Wikipedia has already decided to honor gender identity. I tried to bring it back to the relevant issues below that and struck the comment. —DIYeditor (talk) 11:47, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- The message above is apparently in reference to my comment at the Rfc at Trans woman[permalink]. I have responded in more detail at your Talk page. Mathglot (talk) 07:19, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
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MGTOW Levels edit
The Vice article is a standard hit piece. The image at the top and the overall implications which the author tries to convey make that clear while feigning impartiality; thus making it unreliable source.
Something i couldn't finish during the last edit, due to character limit. MGTOW is individualistic in nature as there are no rules or beliefs to adhere to but your own, thus any central authority to make the rules and "levels" system is absent. Because of this, the beliefs are made clear on various outlets, of which the /r/mgtow or mgtow.com are part. The beliefs of the members, by and large, is The force that is shaping the MGTOW; to allow one biased individual at Vice such power is incorrect. As the beliefs of the community are made known across these outlets, these are the places where they can be found. There are no known outlets which have endorsed this "level" belief. Being an isolationist is a person's personal choice, not a rule one must adhere to in order to belong. MGTOW members by and large do not make such choices, nor do they advocate for them, therefore, including it into the MGTOW description will only mislead people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.13.133.100 (talk) 12:03, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
- Your comments above apparently in connection with this section blanking, and this revert at Men Going Their Own Way. Further info about this here. Mathglot (talk) 00:45, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
Re: Demographic Tables
Renathras, Got your message about your edits to state demographic tables. It seemed more appropriate to move this discussion to your Talk page, so I have done so, and responded there.
Cordially, Mathglot (talk) 20:06, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
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Excuseme. Really do you think was better before my humble contribution? Jeffrey Prothero (Cynbe ru Taren) died at November 16, 2016, said his wife Sandy Stone in the discussion page of Cynbe ru Taren in Wikipedia.--Climent Sostres (talk) 23:24, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
Environment and sexual orientation article
I could use your help watching this article. I suspect that the IP is Justthefacts9. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 23:31, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
- Seems to have quiesced. I tweaked the lead sentence for unrelated reasons. Mathglot (talk) 18:08, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
reply
While the reference is to a book, the link is to the galley proof of a single chapter from the book. On the assumption that the chapter was the relevant portion of the book, I attempted to verify the original sentence in the article and could not. I modified the article text so that it now accords with the linked chapter. After reading your comment, I also added a page number (roman numerals within the galley proof), but it is possible that I didn't put it in the right place, since I'm not a qualified Wikipedia editor. Being unfamiliar with the Wikipedia format is also the reason I didn't modify the citation so that it cites a book chapter rather than the whole book. If you know how to do that, I think it would be a good idea. Another option would be to remove the link (if in fact the chapter isn't the relevant portion). However, in that last case, it might be best to verify the original text again, this time against the entire book. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.7.159.1 (talk) 01:37, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
- The comment above apparently in reference to this edit to Capitalism, and followed up by this talk page comment. Replied at your talk page; let's keep the discussion all in one place there. Mathglot (talk) 02:28, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
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Hi Mathglot. Back in May 2017, you userfied this as User:Free Syrian 200/Fadel Alaboud per User talk:Free Syrian 200#Fadel Alaboud moved to User draft. An article about the same subject has just been added to the mainspace by the same editor. Since you userfied this once before, maybe you could take a look at it again and see the concerns you previously had have been addressed. I'm not sure if a WP:HISTMERGE is needed since this appears to be a copy-paste move, but it does look like Free Syrian 200 is the only major contributor to the sandbox so maybe one is not needed. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:57, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Marchjuly: Thanks. At first glance, I agree about no Histmerge, but before comparing the two articles in more detail, I want to see if Free Syrian 200 (talk · contribs) is able to use English (or even MT) well enough to interact on Talk pages. See my response at User talk:Free Syrian 200#Fadel Al-Aboud. Mathglot (talk) 05:52, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
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Please comment on Talk:United Daughters of the Confederacy
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I had to fix this. He initially came out as a lesbian. That wording is going to be confusing for many readers, however. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 22:38, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
Tweaked here and here. Maybe "still" should be changed to "then." Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 22:46, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
Changed to "then." Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 22:52, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:Oscar López Rivera
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Avetik Chalabyan article up for deletion
Hi Mathglot! About 2 years ago I wrote a biography of a living person article [Chalabyan]. The article has been recently marked as up for deletion. Any advice on why this might be happening, how to address it or what to improve would really be appreciated. Obviously, your vote as an experienced editor on Wiki would really go a long way to make sure it's not deleted.
Thanks in advance for your attention to the matter.
Alice Ananian (talk) 14:35, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
Editing other contributors' comments
Greetings, Mathglot. Before closing the RfC about gender pronouns in the Albert Cashier article, I tried formatting the discussion so that readers can navigate through it easily and that meaning of views is not lost. It's typical for discussions to get out of hand in Wikipedia in terms of proper formatting, because we are often more interested in stating our point of view rather than how the statement fits on the page. You reverted the format-edit as being a violation of the WP:TPO guideline. I do not intend to change your revert but, as you should perhaps know, exceptions to the general rule about not touching other people's comments is allowed quite explicitly and specifically: Some examples of appropriately editing others' comments: Fixing format errors that render material difficult to read. In this case, restrict the edits to formatting changes only and preserve the content as much as possible. Examples include fixing indentation levels,
etc. Which is precisely what I did and all that I did. Take care. -The Gnome (talk) 08:55, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
- @The Gnome: I went back there after getting your message, to re-examine it to see whether a self-revert was in order, but by that time you had already closed it. It’s moot, so no point examining the situation now, but you may have been right and allowing a little more time between leaving me the message and the Rfc closure would have perhaps permitted a better outcome. Oh well, better luck next time. Mathglot (talk) 09:04, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
Please comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK geography/How to write about counties
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SSM
What are you talking about? I haven't been "challenged on this per WP:V", there's been no comment at all. Just silent, idiotic edits. Do I really need to prove that England is a country, when that's already been established on the talk page? You could start with this.
(So ... what? The constituent countries of the UK are not countries, but the constituent countries of Denmark are countries? Do *you* have any source to back that up, since you're the one who wants to change the article to claim that?)
— kwami (talk) 07:01, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:Xinjiang conflict
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Comments at Talk:Sciences Po
Hi. I'm at work right now, and I won't be able to see to it. You may move what I wrote however you wish, just don't modify it. Be bold! :) Regards, Comte0 (talk) 09:26, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Comte0: Thanks, but there's no hurry, and unless you postively prefer me to do so, I'd rather wait till you have the time. For one thing, your comment sounded like a Support vote, but that would be changing things if I did it, so I'd rather you did anything of that nature. Still, if you prefer not to visit the page a second time, I'll move your comment unmodified if that is your wish. Just let me know your preference (and no need to respond to this again while at work; ). Happy trails, Mathglot (talk) 09:45, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
Christianity and antisemitism
Hiya. Someone else already reverted your reversion at Christianity and antisemitism, but I just wanted to clarify that the "unsourced content" you mention was NOT added by me. I assume the two unsourced paragraphs which caught your eye were the ones that begin with
Throughout the 19th century and into the 20th, the Roman Catholic Church still incorporated strong antisemitic elements, despite increasing attempts to separate anti-Judaism (opposition to the Jewish religion on religious grounds) and racial antisemitism...
and
Pope Pius VII (1800–1823) had the walls of the Jewish ghetto in Rome rebuilt after the Jews were emancipated by Napoleon, and Jews were restricted to the ghetto through the end of the Papal States in 1870...
If you take a look at the previous versions, you'll see that both of those paragraphs were already included in the article. I rearranged their order so that the article flows more smoothly, but otherwise I left them unchanged.
All the other paragraphs which DO contain new content added by me are heavily sourced. Hope that clears up any confusion. Cheers. AbsoluteEgoist (talk) 21:49, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, it does AbsoluteEgoist, thanks and happy editing! Mathglot (talk) 11:06, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
Lodi Gyari
Hi Mathglot, Here is I think Lodi Gyari :
--Rédacteur Tibet (talk) 11:52, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
Many thanks!
Many thanks for the additions to the article "Crisis of the Late Middle Ages" and participation in the discussion of its translation into Russian. DarDar (talk) 09:57, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
Transgender
Thanks for your message. So what's the process to have the phrasing amended from "the opposite of transgender is cisgender" to "the opposite of transgender is normal"?
And I don't mean it mockingly. I'm interested in the entire process, how do these changes get vetoed, what sources are considered reliable, what's the quorum, etc?
Many thanks, Fendergenderbender (talk) 09:28, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- Responded at your talk page. Cordially, Mathglot (talk) 19:14, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
Photolab
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PC review accept comment
Heh, I was going to leave you a friendly reminder that your accept-comment advice regarding Angola wasn't visible anywhere except the Advanced review log, but I see now that you made the necessary enhancements to the citation yourself. Now that's dedication! All good, since I was already editing here I figured I'll take the opportunity to applaud the above-and-beyond review efforts. -- FeRDNYC (talk) 04:24, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
- FeRDNYC Thanks. I'm not crazy about the current system of accept notices; imho, they all ought to go into the article itself, as a dummy edit with a full edit summary. Sometimes, there's some thing to say even in an accept that needs to be exposed at article level; and the current system, as you pointed out, doesn't do that. Anyway, your kind words are appreciated! Mathglot (talk) 11:17, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Mathglot:
they all ought to go into the article itself, as a dummy edit with a full edit summary
*nod* Or even just tacked on to the accepted edit. I mean, if the history can show "[accepted by FeRDNYC]", surely it can show "[accepted by FeRDNYC with message Accept message]" or whatever. ...But, there are a lot of things I would change about how PC protection operates, and I suspect that's true for most reviewers. Hopefully it'll evolve and improve over time. -- FeRDNYC (talk) 14:27, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Mathglot: