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The summary states without a doubt that the police were executing a "no-knock" warrant at Taylor's home. Initial reports of the incident have police executing a warrant and announcing themselves before forcing their way into the home. "After repeatedly knocking and announcing their presence detectives utilized a ram to enter the apartment."

https://www.whas11.com/article/news/crime/man-charged-with-attempted-murder-after-detective-injured-trying-to-execute-search-warrant-one-woman-killed/417-108daa08-f4b0-4b52-ae8b-decd2c8b47f9

The reason for this edit is due to the discrepancy of reporting. The only source claiming the police executed a "no-knock" warrant comes from Kenneth Walker's attorney Rob Eggert. The warrants had the "no-knock" clause in them. This means the police may execute a no-knock warrant, but does not require them to. The officers claimed to have announced themselves before entering the building.

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/crime/2020/05/20/breonna-taylor-shooting-lmpd-may-require-swat-serve-no-knock-warrants/5220354002/

""Eggert says police didn't announce themselves before entering the apartment and that Walker fired one shot when he and Taylor heard the door exploding open. "Had Mr. Walker known that police were outside he would have opened the door and ushered them in," Eggert wrote. Police acknowledge using a battering ram, but only after they said they identified themselves. Police have declined to comment further, citing the ongoing investigation."" https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/2020/05/21/motion-to-dismiss-filed-in-breonna-taylor-casemotion-dismiss-filed-breonna-taylor-case/5237715002/

"Police had claimed that they knocked on Taylor’s door several times, and said who they were." https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/records-show-how-police-ended-up-raiding-breonna-taylors-home/

The only indication that the police did not announce themselves is from Kenneth Walker's attorney Rob Eggert. This is he-said-she-said dispute as there is no video evidence and both sides have their own reasons to dispute the facts of the case. This is an important clarification since the FBI investigation is not yet complete and the facts of the case are still disputed. Fisher321 (talk) 19:00, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

^This is false, several of Taylor's neighbors have gone on record confirming that police did not announce themselves. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.69.190.69 (talk) 18:05, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The US Postal Service has since stated that enquiries by another police agency .. not the one enacting the house intrusion .. had proven negative and there was thus no evidence substantiating a link to drugs. The attorneys representing the Taylor family have pointed to real estate projects and the fact that Taylor's former partner, who was still a friend and visitor to her home, had taken action against attempts to clear the block for redevelopment. Two empty properties known to be used for the purpose of drug dealing in the same block were not searched. When writing about legal cases that have not been concluded it is misleading to cite only one side of litigation. The US police have come under scrutiny for racial bias and in this particular case none of the black participants have been linked with criminal activity. Breonna Taylor is, in any case, innocent: at very least innocent until proven guilty. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.249.135.238 (talk) 13:12, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"While the department had gotten court approval for a “no-knock” entry, the orders were changed before the raid to “knock and announce,” meaning that the police had to identify themselves."[1] The police claim that they knocked and called out "police", but multiple neighbors said they did not hear any announcement. It appears they executed it as no-knock even though their orders had been changed, -- MelanieN (talk) 21:30, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Breonna Taylor was an ER Technician not an EMT. There is a difference

Taylor joined the city as an EMT recruit in January 2016, became a full EMT by June and left the Metro Government in November 2016.

Local attorneys for Taylor's family have clarified that she was working as an ER technician at two area hospitals at the time of her March 13 death, with aspirations of becoming a nurse.

Source: https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/crime/2020/06/16/breonna-taylor-fact-check-7-rumors-wrong/5326938002/

She was a licensed EMT but was not working as an EMT. ER Technicians do not need EMT Certification but can get away with CNA certification. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.114.1.20 (talk) 16:18, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Breonna was fired from EMS. Why does this article keep calling her an EMT? She had not worked for the city for 3 years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FCC8:A283:1300:BD4A:BEF5:5167:BD50 (talk) 11:48, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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She was formerly licensed as an EMT in Kentucky but her license had been revoked. Which can be verified at https://kemsis.kbems.kctcs.edu/lms/public/portal#/lookup/user Kanddvideos (talk) 18:33, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We don't use primary sources (such as government registries) in cases like these, we would need to wait for secondary sources like newspapers to mention this. – Thjarkur (talk) 19:22, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As a researcher, I just want to say that "we don't use primary sources, we wait for secondary sources" is the shittest research standard I've ever seen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.69.190.69 (talk) 18:07, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You are missing the point: Wikipedia does not do research, or host others' research (see WP:OR). As an encyclopedia, Wikipedia is a Tertiary source which aims to only summarise what has been published in reliable Secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see WP:RS), and to cite those sources so that they can be checked if desired. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.122.2.158 (talk) 12:05, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Taylors Thoughts...

Under the heading of Taylors Family the Article says "Taylor and Walker thought their home had been broken into by criminals and that "they were in significant, imminent danger."

How can anyone claim to know what Taylor thought??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jnatkins (talk • contribs) 18:20, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have added " the lawsuit states that Taylor and Walker thought..." , so that the claim is attributed. -- MelanieN (talk) 21:21, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Two requests for clarification

Two requests for clarification to be made to this article:

1) A reference in this article is entitled "Woman shot and killed by Kentucky police who entered wrong home," yet there is no mention in the article's text of Taylor's apartment either being or not being the wrong home. Please add clarification of whether Taylor's apartment was indeed the wrong home.

2) "Walker, a licensed firearm carrier, shot first, striking a police officer in the leg"

To add to the article: was the door to the apartment open or closed at this time? When the door was broken down should be added to this paragraph in order that the narrative make sense.

Thank you

173.88.246.138 (talk) 20:19, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Taylor's apartment was indeed the home targeted by the warrant - apparently because of her past association with a boyfriend who was a drug dealer. The title of the reference is in error, but we should not correct it. It is what it is, as the saying goes.

What is your request regarding Walker?

Obviously the door was closed. They wouldn't have been breaking down an open door! -- MelanieN (talk) 21:13, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"No-knock search warrant" in the lead

Our lead paragraph states, as fact in Wikipedia's voice, "Three plainclothes LMPD officers executing a no-knock search warrant entered her apartment in Louisville, Kentucky." It's true that many sources have called it a no-knock warrant, but the New York Times says While the department had gotten court approval for a “no-knock” entry, the orders were changed before the raid to “knock and announce,” meaning that the police had to identify themselves."[2] I think we need to clarify this sentence in the lead somehow, rather than state unequivocally that it was a no-knock warrant. I think we should say "executing a search warrant" in the lead and go into the details in the text. -- MelanieN (talk) 21:36, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have added a sentence to the text about the change in the order. I await consensus what to do about the lead. -- MelanieN (talk) 22:02, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We should remove "no-knock", and maybe add clarification that whether the police announced themselves is disputed by witnesses. - MrX 🖋 11:18, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There are a few points in this article that I have found to be false.

There are a few points in the article that I have found to be untrue according other sources. As this is my first time helping with an article I am hoping this is how I am supposed to do it. Ill just list them in order as I found them along with what is the correct information is, along with a link to the source.

Breonna Taylor was shot 5 times not 8 ^[1]

Breonna and Jamarcus were dating up until one month before the raid. There are recorded jail house calls from January 2020 that showed they were still dating then. ^[2]^[3]

The officers did knock and at least one witness has claimed to have heard them announce their selves. Which has a source that it already listed on the page. ^[4]

IdleTimeIdleMind (talk) 03:33, 3 September 2020 (UTC)IdleTimeIdleMind[reply]

References

Regarding the number of times Taylor was shot, the USA Today article cited in the lead says "Taylor, 26, was shot eight times by officers before being pronounced dead at the scene." I see three other sources cited in the body of the article that say eight times. Maybe the New York Times made a mistake in their September 1 article?

Yumpu is not a source we can use. The New York Times source says they were dating on and off since summer 2016, but I don't see that it says that they "were dating up until one month before the raid."

Whether the officers knocked or not is disputed. - MrX 🖋 11:35, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Here a few other sources that claim that she was shot five times. Maybe just change the wording in article to read that she was shot multiple times to give it more validity, since the amount is being reported in different numbers. ^[1] ^[2] 2604:6000:A0C2:6300:D89D:C101:F6F1:361F (talk) 17:11, 4 September 2020 (UTC)IdleTimeIdleMind[reply]

References

The cops WERE wearing body cams despite police claims to the contrary -- proof provided

Photos taken the day of the shooting prove the cops in that county DO have bodycams(contrary to police allegations they do not), and one of them was wearing one the day of the shooting while the other clearly has the holding slot on his uniform --- it is not known if that second cop removed it for the photo, or if any of the bodycams were turned on during the raid (since that's definitely the sort of thing they are for). https://www.tmz.com/2020/09/04/breonna-taylor-killing-one-police-officer-wore-body-cam-footage-shot/ I believe such an important revelation needs to be on the main page despite the usual lock on biographies of the recently deceased(?) that seem to be on. If the lock is intended to keep the protests down by hiding the truth, wikipedia DEFINITELY has lost its way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.65.74.112 (talk) 06:38, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done, using reliable sources. TMZ is not a good source for such a case. Please provide better sources in the future. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 19:16, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

NFAC

Important to mention the members of NFAC accidentally shooting each other while gathering prior to their march. Gives context that NFAC members are clout chasing LARPers who were handed loaded weapons, rather than an actual militant group that should be taken seriously. FactCheck2Q2Q (talk) 14:38, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 16 September 2020

The request to rename this article to Killing of Breonna Taylor has been carried out.

If the page title has consensus, be sure to close this discussion using {{subst:RM top|'''page moved'''.}} and {{subst:RM bottom}} and remove the {{Requested move/dated|…}} tag, or replace it with the {{subst:Requested move/end|…}} tag.

– Total number of articles = 98. I believe all of which are police killings. Approximately 70% of the deceased are black people.

Should be moved per CONSISTENCY with all these articles below about shootings resulting in a death:

AND...

--- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 07:03, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://www.nytimes.com/article/breonna-taylor-police.html

[2] ttps://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/30/us/breonna-taylor-police-killing.html

[3] ttps://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/63943132/breonna-taylor-summary-redacted1

[4] ttps://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/30/us/breonna-taylor-police-killing.html

[5] ttps://eji.org/news/the-breonna-taylor-case-and-questions-about-qualified-immunity/

[6] ttps://www.1011now.com/2020/07/08/breonna-taylor-new-video-shows-moments-immediately-following-deadly-shooting/

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