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DRV rescue template?

I think a DRV rescue template should be made as well for such articles as Alien and Predator timeline. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 00:13, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Problematic. ARS is about improving articles up to a state where they will pass. For DRV the articles are deleted, so can not be accessed. Taemyr (talk) 15:41, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Not always as some DRVs are for articles that were kept. --Happy editing! Sincerely, Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 02:54, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Agreed, DRV is suppose to be about the AfD itself not the article per se. If there is a DRV in process, however, I'm not opposed to improving an article during DRV so those looking can see improvements in process. Banjeboi 02:52, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

On second thought I agree that a modified template for DRV is appropriate as DRV is also used to discuss an article's merit so continuing to improve it to address concerns raised in both AFD and DRV would make sense. Maybe {{Rescue-DRV}}? Banjeboi 00:08, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

The template is redlinked? best, --A Nobody^{My talk} 05:28, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Barnstars project

I'm not suggesting that every rescue should get a barnstar but it does seem like honoring those who have saved an article could use some recognition. I think the first step might be expanding the list of articles rescued, which, of course, means we figure a good way to track those. Then list them and possible evaluate if someone(s) greatly improved the article vs, the AfD discussion was generally for keeping. Along with the list would be our suggested guideline for issuing barnstars as well as the barnstar gallery. Banjeboi 22:49, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Rawr. I want MOAR barnstars! I think this is a good idea. I know User:Ecoleetage hands them out now and again for people who rescue his nominations from deletion (he's very open about being proven wrong when it means an article will be saved and improved), you should see if he wants to help. Protonk (talk) 00:19, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

I'll look at clearing up the barnstar section above first then proceed from there. Banjeboi 00:13, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Well as often happens the timing was rather dismal, User:Ecoleetage just went on wikibreak due to RfA drama but, assuming he returns, (I hope), we can invite him in. I've set-up the barnstars on the mainpage and the current system of listing articles currently tagged seems the best way of tracking. In addition to the list of rescued articles there's at least two dozen awaiting to be added - all could get barnstarred. Banjeboi 06:55, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Question from a prospective member

Hello, Article Rescue Squadron. In my experiences with AfDs and Deletionism in general, a sense of futility and isolation set in and finally led me to hang up the "Retirement" sign. I've been lurking around in my retirement, however, and came across this project, and think it's a great idea. One of the irritating things, when I saw a clearly inappropriate Afd-- which I would see about once a day-- was that there are no consequences for the nominator. Those who wish to save the article do all the work that the nominator should have done-- if he really cares about improving Wikipedia-- and that work is usually rewarded by nothing more than maybe not seeing perfectly good material removed. So here's my question: Do you guys have any kind of a "Barnstar" to "reward" these guys who are abusing the AfD process to let them know that their "work" is being noticed? "Worst AfD nomination of the week / month / year?" or something like that? "Most number of AfD nominations within one category?" "Most repeat-nominations for a single article?" Or would this be considered "disruptive" (as if abuse of the AfD system were not disruptive...) Anyway, I'm looking around, and might join you guys later, if you'll have me. Cheers! Dekkappai (talk) 18:10, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

• No. Protonk (talk) 18:18, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

No, that sort of thing tend to be seen as abusive. If you feel an editor is abusing the AfD system, or interpreting the AfD process in a disruptive way the correct way to proceed is first to discuss the issue with the editor, then to post at Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts or begin a RfC on his conduct. In addition, although this is just my opinion and one not shared by most project members, fragrantly bad AfD noms are outside of scope for this project. If there is no reason for deletion, there is no improvement to the article that will qualify as rescue. Taemyr (talk) 20:47, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Harassing the deletionists is out? :-( OK, I took a stab at the article on the top of your list: The God That Failed (song). Is this the kind of thing the project does? Dekkappai (talk) 23:20, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Nice work. And yes. Taemyr (talk) 01:28, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

I've been considering creating something like a {{uw-badafd}} series of user warning templates, though, with pointers to WP:BEFORE and WP:ATD. There are user warning templates for using dashes incorrectly, so I see no reason why submitters of the poorest AfDs should be immune from constructive criticism. Jclemens (talk) 01:37, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

I think anything like that is going to look like an attack. What would be cool is if some bot would keep track of AfDs, who nominated them, and their deletion percentage. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 01:50, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Any template has a sense of impersonalness that can be viewed as hostile. Look through WP:UWT and see if there isn't room for such a template amongst others such as {{uw-italicize}} and {{uw-preview}}. It would have to be worded appropriately, but there's nothing intrinsically more hostile with such a template than any of the others. Jclemens (talk) 02:20, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Such a template would also likely violate the don't template the regulars concept. Any meaningful change, IMHO, needs to be policy based - either in clearly sussing out what policies define as AfD abuse and how to respond to alleged abuse - or changing policies to define what is abusive and remedies for addressing the concerns.

The bot-tracking of AfDs on its surface sounds good, but would need to be highly refined. Ultimately it would be, IMHO, a badge of honor, for some users, and unlikely deterrent for the rest. I would also be concerned that someone would in any way game the systems so their numbers registered one way or another. I am interested to see what others think about what would actually deter bad AfDs from coming down the pipeline. If we change a step in the nomination process or otherwise tweak the system will it resolve the issue or just re-align where the problems are at? For instance if most AfD's are instead encouraged to prod first - just an idea here - in theory many articles would be deleted that no one is watching or cares enough about. In turn a whole wing of prod-watching would emerge so is it really a good solution? -- Banjeboi 02:30, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Ta da! It's beta and it doesn't quite get merges right, but there you go. Protonk (talk) 02:31, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

That was scary quick! If it could give totals it might be more meaningful and frankly this leads to having List of editors by AfDs with sortable columns for Keep's, Delete's, no-consensus, merge and other. I bet that takes more tahn a few minutes! -- Banjeboi 02:43, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Full disclosure that was from User:SQL, not me. I wouldn't know a regular expression from an elephant on stilts. Protonk (talk) 03:06, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, if an elephant on stilts is irregular the expressions of those around will likely be, too. :-) Jclemens (talk) 04:30, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

The bad-AfD "barnstar" is no doubt a bad idea. It would be taken as either a "personal attack", or as a badge of honor, depending on the humor of the deletionist so tagged... But the idea for it came about because of the total lack of a system of checks on the deletion/AfD system... People are free to nominate, basically, any article, as many times as they wish, without consequence (as long as they don't go too far overboard). If I follow what this project is doing, I was doing much the same thing on my own before I threw in the towel at Wikipedia. I was usually saving articles, too, but some of those articles were subsequently re-nominated by the original nominators. And, since by then I had come to see defending them as futile, and no one else stepped forward, they are gone now... With no possibility of any kind of repercussions for mass-nominating, multiple-nominating, "I don't like it" nominations, nominating without doing the slightest bit research, there is really no reason not to to nominate an article for deletion, if one is of that mindset... It just seems like a crazy system to me. Anyway, it looks like you guys have a good idea going here, and I'll try to do what little I can to help out when I am able. Regards. Dekkappai (talk) 05:07, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

• there is a pretty strong social pressure against renomination of articles which are basically unchanged and meet policy. This is distinct from articles which don't meet policy but get kept due to local consensus. I see plenty of AfD's closed under SPEEDY or SNOW because the nominator made a serial AfD from an otherwise good article. The system isn't perfect, but it basically works. We see very few articles that clearly meet guidelines deleted without review. Protonk (talk) 05:37, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
  • I'm not so sure about that - having saved a few articles that no one though were salvagable I wonder how many others were deleted because no one cared enough or had the spare hours within the set time frame. I love the prospect of the list of editors by AfD if SQL's tool can be modified for it. This might give inspiration for more systematic investigation. I can't remember who it was but I sharply recall a user who has a boasting of how many articles they had deleted - that seems like a terrible achievement when the goal is to create. I also think Jclemens idea about highlighting links that stress steps before an AfD and alternatives to AfD are also helpful. I disagree a template would be the way to go as outlined but unsure what a better option would be. -- Banjeboi 00:47, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
    • I know what you mean... I know absolutely nothing about Metallica, but just a simple look through a couple of book indexes, and I found a whole essay on the song that was up for deletion... And the article had apparently been successfully prodded before, and just escaped this time because the time had elapsed! I see that today a list I was involved in saving a couple times is now up for its sixth trial on the AfD chopping-block. I knew an editor who kept a trophy-wall of articles he had got deleted. In fact at one point he nominated the list I just mentioned. Like many deletionists, he is now an Admin... The sense of futility sets in, and I've finally just given up on that list. They can have it. I'll salvage the parts I wrote and cart them off to another Wiki-like project I'm involved in. Why continue scrounging around for sourcing, writing, and arguing against the deletion, when all they have to do is slap a tag on it, sit back and hope they hit a jackpot this time... and if not this time, there's always next?... I like the project you guys have set up here, but I'm beginning to get the same sinking feeling I had before I retired-- like I'm trying to bail out a sinking ship with a teacup... I don't think it is a system that works well most of the time. Good material is deleted on a regular basis unless someone steps in and devotes their time to working on someone else's article. (And don't even start on images! Within about half an hour, I could probably show you half a dozen deleted Fair Use or Public Domain film posters that have been wrongly deleted because the image description was not filled out so that a bot could read it.) I do think that the majority of editors here at Wikipedia are opposed to this overzealous deletion, but those who are in favor of it are usually the ones who gain positions of authority. Some sort of popular revolution against this deletionist free-for-all needs to get started. I hope someone wakes me up when it does... I'll be happy to join it. Until then, I'll devote my time to a project that craves more rather than less material from its editors. Dekkappai (talk) 01:31, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
• such is the nature of the fight. It is always going to be it easier to delete than to improve, and the only defense the encyclopedia has against that is the persistence of people who do not give up. Perhaps not everyone can save an article a day, but almost anyone can save at least one a week. Of the 10000 or so articles at AfD a week, I'd say that about 1/2 will be hopeless, 1/4 will be kept, and 1/4 can be kept only if th y are improved. Thats 250 a week. 250 people each doing one a week can make the difference. I continue to be an optimist, and thing we have 3250 good and sensible people here. The ay to get more of them is to avoid alienating people. This is the othr side of NOT OWN -- it should be sen as meritorious to improve someone else's article a your own. this is our project, and they are all of them our articles.

Dekkkappai, nobody will throw out the deflationists for you. You can defeat the by improving some articles so thoroughly that they can go ahead an delete them. (And also by staying around to join in the defense of those that are good enough to pass.). i figure if we win half the time, that's a lot better than the alternative. The key to winning even half the time, of course, is selectivity-hence this project and the focus it can bring. 07:22, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

AFD summaries

Any chance of someone taking over these AFD summaries to get them working again? This may help us find those article in more of a need to rescue. -- Suntag ☼ 17:18, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Holy crap that actually has potential! I consider my weak point actually combing through AFDs to find ones that deserve rescuing but this may help exponentially! -- Banjeboi 00:41, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

{{findsourcesnotice}}

Hi ARS. I created {{findsourcesnotice}} as a way editors can quickly tag non-ARS talk pages to suggest where those interested in the article may find reilable source material for the article. -- Suntag ☼ 21:07, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Did You Know ...

... that there are Brownie points for newly-expanded articles which are available at WP:DYK? I just tried this for the first time on an article that I expanded to save it from deletion. The process wasn't too bad - easier than nominating an article for AFD. By doing this, you can get some kudos for the hard work of adding references and text as well as the warm glow of saving an article from deletion. This seems a good twofer and we can share the credit if we work together on a rescue. Colonel Warden (talk) 01:39, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

PROPOSAL: Past successful deletion debates Sub article

I was thinking of creating a sub article of this article which lists great AfD debates, as examples for future editors attempting to save articles.

For example:

Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron/Past successful deletion debates

I have been trying to teach editors how to debate in Articles for Deletion. I realized that Articles for Deletion examples would be very helpful for new editors, but I think I need help. travb (talk) 12:45, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Ultimately, ARS is not about the debates. It's about the articles. The best rescues are those that makes the debate moot. Taemyr (talk) 14:18, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

I feel uncomfortable going down that road. We should find ways to encourage editors to understand the threshold of notability and also how to reolve real concerns of article creep. For instance, many of the fictional item AfD'd would be fine in a list format rather than separate articles. While I don't tend to delete items I also am concerned that we are getting a lot of articles that aren't notable because we are advertising ARS in your tips talkpage postings. There are already some good resources along the lines of what you're asking about but before they go in guns blazing they should take a breath and consider if an article is indeed appropriate at this point. A cleaned article about a non-notable subject is still an article in trouble. Having stated all that it may not be a bad idea to start up a thread on what works/what doesn't and see if any ideas pop from that. -- Banjeboi 03:46, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi Benjiboi :) I started a general article: User:Inclusionist/Del. I am trying to teach new editors how to survive in an AfD discussion.

RE: "Past successful deletion debates" I will do something unaffiliated with this project, I don't want to ruffle any feathers. Maybe I can solicit advice from editors to share some of their most incredible war stories.

I already checked all of the AfDs involving WP:NALBUMS, WP:NSONGS, which is on User:Inclusionist/Del. But would like more specific success stories

travb (talk) 01:23, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Excellent_Article_for_deletion_debates

I solicited stories on village pump:

• Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#Excellent_Article_for_deletion_debates

I would love to hear your story... travb (talk) 22:20, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

New idea to recognize efforts

Please see and help with User:A Nobody/Article Rescuers' Hall of Fame, which I have created in my userspace for now. Sincerely, --A Nobody^{My talk} 05:11, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Good job, I think it should be a subsection in the list of Article Squadron members. Maybe instead (or also) have the list by article, not by person because

1. Its about the articles, not the editors
2. Often several Article Rescue Squadron editors Tag team to save an article, not just one editor. travb (talk) 00:42, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

I agree with this. We had something similar to this at DYK, which later resulted in some very heated discussions. It'd be better to list them by articles, since otherwise it might look like attention seeking (which some people would not like that much). Chamal ^talk 04:28, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Fifth formerly deleted article recreated and advanced to GA-Class

With John W. Rogers, Jr. yesterday being promoted to Good Article, and counting Manny Harris, Nate Parker, Toni Preckwinkle and Tory Burch, I have created articles for five formerly deleted articles and taken them to WP:GA-class. I am making the announcement since I only have one rescue barnstar and there seem to be several different ones.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:39, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't know which barnstar would be appropriate, but very nice job. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 03:45, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations! That is wonderful. Three cheers for Fisher! You are an inspriation and a model for all wikipedians to follow. travb (talk) 22:02, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations

The article on the list above, Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Tiles_of_the_Hold_(2nd_nomination) was miraculously saved "no consensus"

I found a birthday template: {{Happy Birthday 9}} and modified it to say congratulations to the creator, here: User_talk:Krmarshall#Congratulations.21

	Congratulations	from a Article Rescue Squad member
	Congratulations {{PAGENAME}} your article was saved in an Articles for deletion debate. ~~~~

This is something others could do also.

Other cheerful templates can be found here: Wikipedia:Birthday Committee Ikip (talk) 22:02, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Welcome

I just welcomed all of the new ARS members with this:

	WELCOME	from a Article Rescue Squad member
	Welcome to Article Rescue Squadron {{PAGENAME}} a list of articles needing to be rescued can be found here: Articles currently tagged. I look forward to working with you in the future. ~~~~

Ikip (talk) 20:59, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Example

Tunnel Running was a logn ago (but very visible) rescue - see its AFD for how this evolved (if examples are needed). FT2 ^{(Talk | email)} 07:31, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Recognition of embattled users

I have found in my work with new editors, that the majority of new editors are welcomed with warning templates and impersonally nasty messages, saying subtly, and not so subtly, that "your contributions are not welcome" In other words, veteran editors can be real &*&(^ to new users.

What I love about this project is we are not only about saving articles, we are about, indirectly, retaining new users.

I just created a new template/barnstar morph: User:Ikip/t which can be placed on new editors talk pages:

==Welcome==

		Your Opinion is More Important than You Think Barnstar
		Hello, Article Rescue Squadron, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like wikipedia and decide to stay. I am sorry that there are so many impersonal warning messages on your talk page. There are many editors who feel that your hard work here is important and valuable, especially me. Need help? If you are looking for help, you can just type: {{helpme}} ...and your question on this page, and someone will show up shortly to answer. Or, please visit New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! If you have any questions at all, please [message me]. Again, welcome! Ikip (talk) 11:41, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

{{Subst:User:Ikip/t}}

The template signs your name for you.

It is part of:

		Your Opinion is More Important than You Think Barnstar
		message Ikip (talk) 11:41, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

{{subst:Your Opinion is More Important than You Think Barnstar|message ~~~~}}

Ikip (talk) 11:41, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Save an article on scientific theory book from deletion; re Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Myopia Myth

This article is Myopia Myth and I already spent over 10 hours trying to improve it. One edittor has being picking out "problems" on the article from the very beginning and he really doesn't want to help. When I asked him to support me in making it better, he just decided to "delete" the page. --Junsun (talk) 20:01, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Cleanup is needed. Most sourcing here is synthesis since the sources you use fail to talk directly about the book. Taemyr (talk) 06:14, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

I've tagged the article and commented at the AfD. Make it about the book and get more advice if and where the myth part may work. -- Banjeboi 11:22, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Wikiads

See: Template:Wikipedia-adnavbox

Any creative editor willing to make a wiki-ad for Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron? I will ask the creators of the existing templates if the can create one.Ikip (talk) 18:36, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Medals

I started awarding Article Rescue Squadron medals to those people listed on Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron's Hall of Fame, the coding is here:

{{ARS|ArticleTitle}}

You don't have to add a name to this list to award someone or yourself this medal. Ikip (talk) 16:46, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

(Inspired by User:Piotrus/Top which is hanging above his talk page). Ikip (talk) 00:46, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Archiving

Is there a way to archive the resolved entries? Best, --A Nobody^{My talk} 07:41, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm working on it, if I figure a good bot way I might suggest it but as part of an overall scheme to recognize those who actually do rescuing we still need to look at each case. I'll try to keep the list more updated. -- Banjeboi 11:53, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Cool, thanks! Sincerely, --A Nobody^{My talk} 06:17, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

• I know I originally suggested the sub-page idea, but what if we just transclude the category listing on this talk page? That eliminates the manual labor part of things (although a bot adding/removing titles would be best). It leaves us with the unhappy outcome of having no info but the title here and no space for discussion, but it might help organize things. Protonk (talk) 16:51, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

I think trandluding is a wonderful idea, I just have no idea how to do it myself :) Ikip (talk) 00:39, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Article Rescue Squadron/leavemessage

Since this page is so long, I made a leave message link transluted in the top of this page (Found here Wikipedia talk:Article Rescue Squadron/leavemessage).

I know we get a lot of new users, who maybe intimidated and confused by this page. Ikip (talk) 01:00, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

I quick archived the older articles and will flu on those, I'd rather not add even more bits unless they are quite needed. I think most users can sort out leaving a message, so, IMHO, the bigger issue is dealing with a list of 20+ articles. Does that makes the toc too long? What are the biggest issues that we should find some alternatives for? -- Banjeboi 02:03, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Christian Lyrics

H E L P H E L P What happened to the site a Rat came and was very viscous PlEasE H E L P H E l P Its gone No one Came to help Can You Guys do something...User talk:Intelligentlove 9:07, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Can you be more specific? What articles are you talking about? Ikip (talk) 10:40, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh you are talking about, Christian Lyrics I will help you on your talk page. Ikip (talk) 23:00, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Where are the edit links in each section?

The edit links for each subsection are gone now. Ikip (talk) 10:51, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

I isolated the problem, it is in Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron/Current articles Ikip (talk) 10:55, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

I removed __NOEDITSECTION__ and the problem seemed to be fixed in Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron/Current articles. Ikip (talk) 11:03, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

An interesting debate that should interest Rescue Squad members....

A request for comments has been started that could affect the inclusion or exclusion of certain fiction articles as a result of a proposed notability guideline directed specifically toward fiction. If you feel inclined, please visit the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(fiction)#Final_adoption_as_a_guideline. Thanks, Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 00:15, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

List of Indonesian rock bands

Hey guys, there is a bit of a tooth-and-nail battle going on over at the AfD for the List of Indonesian rock bands. DHowell and I have been working on the article to bring it up to speed, and I would really appreciate it if other people could help out. The list has been completely redone and expanded. Also, I've been trying to develop some text on the history of rock music in Indonesia (which there seems to be a fair amount of news coverage of), but I'm afraid that I might not be able to finish it fast enough for the AfD (especially since I'm driving all day tomorrow, womp womp). Thanks! SMSpivey (talk) 07:07, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

I commented in the Afd. I hope it helped. Ikip (talk) 22:49, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Newsletter

Would anyone here be interested in starting a newsletter with me?

The best example and most popular newsletter is: WP:POST

There are several examples:

• Category:WikiProject Films newsletters
• Category:WikiProject Cats newsletters
• Category:WikiProject Hawaii newsletters
• Category:WikiProject Biography newsletters
• Category:WikiProject India newsletters
• Category:WikiProject Led Zeppelin newsletters
• Category:WikiProject The Beatles newsletters
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Newsletter

...and several bots: Category:Newsletter delivery bots

Ikip (talk) 22:49, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Adding the list of articles to be rescued to your talk page

User:Casliber had a brilliant idea: adding the list of articles which currently have the rescue tag to your talk page:

Coding: {{WP:ARS/Tagged}}

This list is dynamic, and the list of articles will change as the rescue template is removed or added from articles. Ikip (talk) 14:31, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

This crosses a line. I am unhappy with an automatic tool to canvass AFDs to anyone with a self-professed agenda at AFD, especially with no criteria other than someone not wanting the article deleted. When it's a project's cleanup tool in the project's space, that's one thing, but this is too much. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire - past ops) 23:57, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't care what you think Black. Go away. Is it true that you have the most blocks of any admin? Ikip (talk) 01:11, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

New idea!

After a discussion with A Man In Black in a recent AfD, I wonder if we can have one of those small script "This article has been tagged for rescue" kind of comments like the wikiprojects use for deletion sorting? Best, --A Nobody^{My talk} 00:23, 4 February 2009 (UTC)