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Should Yüksek Hızlı Tren be merged into high speed rail in Turkey?

Don't answer here but at Talk:High-speed_rail_in_Turkey#Merge_Yüksek_Hızlı_Tren please Chidgk1 (talk) 17:34, 23 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Guys please comment there - we need you as only 2 have commented besides me as the proposer Chidgk1 (talk) 14:24, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

1927 census

Hi, The 1927 census results, in Midyat District there were 3,897 "Diğer Dinler" (other than: İslam Hristiyan Musevi) and 5,285 "diğer diller" (other than: Türkçe Arapça Kürtçe Çerkezce Ermenice Fransızca Arnavutça Rumca İtalyanca İbranice İngilizce Bulgarca Tatarca). And in Mardin District (Artuklu I guess): 4,305 "Diğer Dinler" but only 253 "diğer diller". A note says Doğu illerindeki gayrimüslim nüfusu genelde Ermeniler teşkil ederken, Mardin’deki gayrimüslimlerin önemli bir kısmını Süryaniler teşkil etmektedir.

Who are these "Other religions" and "Other languages"? Did they include Assyrians in "Diğer dinler" instead of Hristiyan? "Diğer diller" could be the Turoyo language spoken by Assyrians. This would explain the results for Midyat (a large Assyrian settlement), but not for Mardin Merkez. Some publications of the 1927 census distinguish "Ermeni" vs "Ortodoks" vs "Hıristiyan", for instance here for Bingöl, so it's unclear. The authors note p. 466: 1927 Nüfus Sayımına göre Bingöl’de 40.540 Müslüman, 46 Ermeni, 1 Ortodoks ve 5 Hıristiyan yaşamaktadır. Ancak Ermeni, Ortodoks ve Hıristiyan kategorilerinin neye göre yapıldığı muallâkta kalmıştır. Ortodoks bir Ermeni aynı zamanda Hıristiyan değil midir? Böyle bir Ermeni hangi kategoriye girmektedir? Bunlar 1927 nüfus sayımı verilerinde açıklanmaya muhtaç olan konulardır. 1927 nüfus sayımı verilerine göre Çapakçur ve Genç’te hiçbir gayrimüslim yaşamamaktadır. Sadece Kiğı’da 52 gayrimüslim yaşamaktadır a455bcd9 (Antoine) (talk) 07:44, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

For what it's worth, I asked ChatGPT. Its conclusion: for Midyat probably Syriacs, incorrectly classified as non-Christians (not recognized by those conducting the census as Christians like more "established" Christian groups like Greek Orthodox or Armenian Apostolic), and Syriac dialects. Could be the same for Mardin but the low number of "Diğer diller" could be because Syriacs in Mardin had abandoned their language and switched to Turkish, Arabic, or Kurdish; whereas Midyat was the only town in the Ottoman Empire with an ethnic Assyrian majority so the Syriac language may have survived longer there. It could also be that some "Diğer dinler" who were not in "Diğêr diller" were Yazidis, as they didn't have their own language but spoke Kurdish. However there were more Yazidi in Midyat than in Mardin and there weren't a lot of them. a455bcd9 (Antoine) (talk) 08:10, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

From here: 5,285 "diğer diller" = Syriac indeed (source). a455bcd9 (Antoine) (talk) 08:42, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Turkish-Georgian war

Turkish-Georgian war has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at Talk:Turkish-Georgian war.Annwfwn (talk) 22:53, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Byzantine Empire Featured article review

I have nominated Byzantine Empire for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:05, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Turkey's link to the balaclava?

I noticed that the balaclava article is listed as a WikiProject Turkey article. Is there a connection I am unaware of, or is this somebody confusing balaclava and baklava? Arjsd (talk) 02:30, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

1927 Turkish census results

FYI: the 1927 Turkish census results were not easily accessible before (only in scanned PDF files). Now they are :):

a455bcd9 (Antoine) (talk) 19:52, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category question

Hi there! I was recently cleaning up articles that contain WikiProject categories, and stumbled across Gallipoli campaign, which includes Category:WikiProject Turkey current top in-process tasks. Being unfamiliar with the category, I didn't make any changes. Is this category intended to contain articles, or should the category be removed from the article? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 04:25, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Looking for better lead pic for Agriculture in Turkey

If you have any idea please suggest at Talk:Agriculture_in_Turkey#Any_suggestions_for_better_lead_picture? Chidgk1 (talk) 11:33, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kurds "Iranian ethnic group" RFC

Editors are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Kurds#RFC: Iranian ethnic group. Levivich (talk) 00:04, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Peer review of LGBT in the Ottoman Empire

Hi everyone - just letting this WikiProject know that a Peer Review of LGBT in the Ottoman Empire (with the intention of improving this to Good Article status) is currently under way. If anyone has anything to add to the article / review, it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! GnocchiFan (talk) 17:21, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hacı Beşir Ağa Fountain

Should there be a Wikipedia article for Hacı Beşir Ağa Fountain?

commons:Category:Hacı Beşir Ağa Fountain

@Basak: In case you might be familiar or aware of helpful sources.

---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:02, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Nanahuatl: Also putting this on your radar, given your work at tr:Beyoğlu'ndaki çeşmeler listesi. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:06, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Another Believer:! I would suggest improving Beshir Agha article, adding information that he patronized 16 fountains in Istanbul. The photo of this fountain could be used as an example of the surviving fountains he patronized.--Basak (talk) 16:10, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A helpful suggestion, thank you! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:16, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Probably notable, just waiting to be created :) I had created so many cultural heritage article lately, so kinda having a "detox" of that topic. Nanahuatl (talk) 18:42, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Nanahuatl I'd love to get a stub started, if you're able to provide some sources for inclusion. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:47, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have some PDF sources but they're in Turkish. Nanahuatl (talk) 18:48, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Nanahuatl I would welcome a stub at English Wikipedia using Turkish sources 100% ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:48, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you're interested in fountains, I have created some featured articles such as tr:Hasan Rıza Paşa Çeşmesi (Osmanağa), tr:İshak Ağa Çeşmesi, tr:Hoşyar Kadın Çeşmesi, tr:Sineperver Valide Sultan Çeşmesi (Fatih), tr:Mısırlı Osman Ağa Çeşmesi (Kadıköy), and tr:İshak Ağa Çeşmesi (Ortaçeşme, Beykoz), tr:Ali Bey Çeşmesi (Mevlanakapı), tr:Hasköy Çeşmesi and tr:İshak Ağa Çeşmesi (Beykoz Çayırı) are on the way. Nanahuatl (talk) 18:52, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Nanahuatl These are so wonderful, thank you for sharing. I wish we had equivalents at English Wikipedia and would very much welcome translations. I saw many landmarks in Istanbul without entries. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:56, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, I am interested in fountains and public art. I've created List of public art in Istanbul and hope to continue expanding as I review my photographs and identify works. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:57, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I could say at least 500-600 notable fountains exist in Istanbul, probably more. Thousands of cultural heritage articles are missing, only in Istanbul. I'm trying to have FAs as many as possible, so I'm focused on FAs, not stubs. Creating them in Turkish are challenging enough and I'm focused on contributing on the Turkish Wikipedia, therefore I won't be able to contribute here :/ If you're interested in phographing them, you can check here and see most of the Turkish/Turkey related cultural heritage. Cheers. Nanahuatl (talk) 19:04, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I understand and appreciate your contributions to Turkish Wikipedia. Don't worry, I'll be doing some work here at English Wikipedia, creating interwiki links to some of your work :) ---Another Believer _(Talk) 20:57, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

New pages

New pages:

Improvements welcome! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 11:54, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fountain in Gülhane Park, Istanbul

Does anyone know the name of this fountain in Gülhane Park, Istanbul? @Nanahuatl: Perhaps you are familiar.

Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:04, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I guess just drinking fountain or cistern fountain - Gülhane Parkı Sarnıcı Çeşmesi. Ymblanter (talk) 21:59, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I see, that's not an historical fountain, made of plaster and a modern work. Nanahuatl (talk) 18:53, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, both. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:55, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Ymblanter:, nope, that's different one. It can be seen here. Nanahuatl (talk) 18:55, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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 ::As far as I see, that's not an historical fountain, made of plaster and a modern work. [[User:Nanahuatl|Nanahuatl]] ([[User talk:Nanahuatl|talk]]) 18:53, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
 :::Thanks, both. ---[[User:Another Believer|<span style="color:navy">Another Believer</span>]] <sub>([[User talk:Another Believer|<span style="color:#C60">Talk</span>]])</sub> 18:55, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
+::{{ping|Ymblanter}}, nope, that's different one. It can be seen [https://kulturenvanteri.com/tr/yer/gulhane-parki-sarnici/#16/41.013519/28.982052 here]. [[User:Nanahuatl|Nanahuatl]] ([[User talk:Nanahuatl|talk]]) 18:55, 30 November 2023 (UTC)