User talk:Cirt

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Other neat portal ideas for longer term

• Longer term ideas to think about from other portals:

1. Events section, like: "On this day" e.g., Biography, Religion, United States; "Selected anniversaries" e.g., War; "Calendar" at Holidays. Interesting idea of "Month selected anniversaries", at Oregon.
2. Model intro with some rotating images, after Portal:Oregon, Portal:Indiana, Portal:Iceland/Intro and Portal:Philosophy of science/Intro.
3. Revamp DYK sections w/ free-use images, model after Portal:Criminal justice and Portal:Oregon.
4. Portal palettes at User:RichardF/Palettes/Portals. Comparable color schemes can be developed from the various hue lists at User:RichardF/Palettes. Also see Portal:Box-header.
5. If there are a lot of categories, then categories section to 2 columns, like in Portal:Indiana.

   Also take some time to check out style/formatting at Portal:Indiana Cirt (talk)

Note to self

• MakeRef

independent reliable secondary sources

• User:Citation bot/use

• {{findsources}}

Cite templates

<ref>{{cite book| last =  | first =  | authorlink =  | coauthors =  | title =  | publisher =  | year =  | location =  | page =  | url =  | doi =  | id =    | isbn = }}</ref>

<ref>{{cite news| last =  | first =  | coauthors =  | title =  | work =  | language =  | publisher =  | page =  | date =  | url =  | accessdate =  }}</ref>

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Citation model

The Simpsons (season 3)

Body text in-cite

<ref name="REFNAME">[[#LASTNAME|LASTNAME]], p. PAGENUMBER</ref>

References section

(reference template from WP:CIT)

*<cite id=LASTNAME>REFERENCE</cite>

Different model

• Template:Citation
• Template:Harvnb
• Example: <ref name="REFNAME">{{Harvnb|LAST|YEAR|p=PAGENUMBER}}</ref>

See models at The General in His Labyrinth and Mario Vargas Llosa.

More info. Cirt (talk)

More at Wikipedia:Harvard citation template examples.

And Template talk:Harvard citation no brackets.

Cirt (talk)

Dispatch

Cirt, Awadewit suggested that you might be interested in writing a Signpost Dispatch article on Featured portals (the only area of featured content we haven't covered). Sample previous articles are at {{FCDW}}. We've covered:

• Featured content overview
• Peer review
• Did you know
• Featured lists
• Good articles
• Featured sounds
• Featured topics
• Images
• TFA
• And Featured articles many times: Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-07-21/Dispatches, Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-04-07/Dispatches, Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-10-13/Dispatches

None of them start out looking like that: if an editor initially just chunks in some text, many others chip in to tweak it up to Signpost standards. For example, someone wrote this, which Karanacs, Royalbroil and I turned into this, so if you just chunk in some text as a start, others can help finish it off. Another example, I put in this outline, and Karanacs brought it up to this. Other editors have written almost complete and clean Dispatches without much need for other editing. If you're interested, please weigh in and coordinate at WT:FCDW In case you're interested, you could just begin sandboxing something at WP:FCDW/Portals and pop over to WT:FCDW to leave a note when you're ready for others to help out. Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:26, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Will mull this over and most likely draft something up. Cirt (talk) 11:54, 18 November 2108 (UTC)

Razzies progress

• 15th Golden Raspberry Awards through 29th Golden Raspberry Awards = reformatting process done.
  • Note: Going to have to go back and model these after the modifications made subsequently to 29th Golden Raspberry Awards.
• 29th Golden Raspberry Awards - so far only one expanded with sourcing research. (WP:FL)
• Razzie Award for Worst New Star = reformatting process done, next to use Talk:Razzie Award for Worst Picture as model to reformat other pages in Category:Golden Raspberry Awards by category (with subsection breaks by decade)

Cirt (talk)

Work in progress - Van Morrison

• Van Morrison (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Much of the music Morrison released throughout the 1980s continued to focus on the themes of spirituality and faith. His 1983 album, Inarticulate Speech of the Heart was "a move towards creating music for meditation" with synthesisers, uilleann pipes and flute sounds and four of the tracks were instrumentals. Van Morrison is a former Scientologist; during the 1980s he dedicated an album to the organization's founder L. Ron Hubbard. Van Morrison was recruited into Scientology by Scientologist and musician Nicky Hopkins. Friends of Van Morrison's within his musical circle that were also into Scientology included Mark Isham and Robin Williamson. Van Morrison's album Beautiful Vision was influenced by Scientology, and his next album Inarticulate Speech of the Heart (1983) included a "special thanks" credit given to L. Ron Hubbard. After Scientology, Van Morrison moved on to "a broadly Christian faith". He titled his 1986 album No Guru No Method as an attempt to distance himself from Scientology. In a review of Van Morrison's musical work in The Times, journalist Pete Paphides described his album No Guru, No Method, No Teacher as "the 1986 album that found Morrison adrift from God, wounded by his dalliance with Scientology, wrestling the mother of spiritual hangovers and deciding that only the compass of memory could help a lost soul to redemption". Van Morrison's exploration of spirituality, including Jehovah's Witness, Christianity, mysticism, and Scientology, served as an influence for his works including Astral Weeks, "Kingdom Hall", Enlightenment and "Whenever God Shines His Light". In 1991, Van Morrison explained his period of spirituality and self-reflection, commenting: "I'm into all of it, orthodox or otherwise. I don't accept or reject any of it. I'm not searching for anything in particular, I'm just groping in the dark for a bit more light." In 1995, when asked by the University of Ulster to list his favorite philosophers, Van Morrison included Aristotle, Socrates, Sartre, Steiner – as well as L. Ron Hubbard. In 2009, the Pulitzer Prize-winning newspaper St. Petersburg Times listed Van Morrison among "Former Scientologists".

Cirt (talk) 05:53, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

AFD

Hey, can you look at my 4 non-admin AFD closes and make sure they are all ok? Thanks, CTJF83 chat 08:45, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Which ones? Cirt (talk) 01:15, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

1, 2, 3, 4. CTJF83 chat 03:04, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Okay will take a look soon. Cirt (talk) 22:45, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

They seem alright so far. Cirt (talk) 22:46, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Ok, thank you, CTJF83 chat 06:01, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

RFA

Thanks for the notice. Cirt (talk) 22:45, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Ian Benardo

Please Restore the IAN BENARDO page. Thank You. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.108.128.218 (talk) 18:07, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Why did you delete the IAN BENARDO page? He is a well known commentator on radio, television and was an infamous American Idol contestant and So You Think you can Dance. He has 2 records out and has a new TV show debuting called "THE IAN BENARDO SHOW". He has hosted numerous events and charities as well as a personality. Please restore the Ian Benardo page. Thank You. 66.108.128.218 (talk) 18:20, 25 January 2010 (UTC) A Fan

Hey Cirt. Restore IAN BENARDO's page. He is a notable Television icon and has 2 CDs out and regularly appears on television. He is an internet meme as well with numerous imitations. Koosachtak (talk) 07:40, 26 January 2010 (UTC) koosachtak

More info at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ian Benardo. Cirt (talk) 22:45, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Google IAN BENARDO and see that he has 2 Albums out, a popular television show and articles in many publications. Restore the Ian Benardo page. He is constantly on the radio and always quoted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.108.128.218 (talk) 23:08, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Please read WP:AFD. Cirt (talk) 21:52, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Sharks

I take it featured portal candidates is a little dead? It's a shame, portals could be so much more... What's the procedure if there are no comments? (For what it's worth, I've watchlisted the candidates page, so will do my best to offer reviews of any future candidates.) J Milburn (talk) 21:42, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

We can wait a while longer still. Cirt (talk) 22:45, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

deletion of dlib c++ library article

I didn't notice the message I got regarding this article until yesterday (It was on my watch list but I guess that doesn't mean you get emails about this sort of thing?) Anyway, the article was deleted because the editors didn't find any significant coverage when looking on the Internet but there are a number of things on Google, a few are:

• Some codeproject article used it: http://www.codeproject.com/KB/cpp/ess.aspx
• The understand your code guys index it: http://understandyourcode.com/uts/index.php
• It's listed here: http://www.kdnuggets.com/software/libraries.html
• It's also published in a peer reviewed journal: http://jmlr.csail.mit.edu/papers/v10/king09a.html
• People (other than me) consider it notable enough to add links to it in other wikipedia articles (like the Boost article)

Is this the sort of significant coverage that warrants an undelete? Or is this not the sort of thing meant by "significant secondary sources"? Thanks, Davis685 (talk) 00:47, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

That does not seem like significant coverage. Cirt (talk) 00:48, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Re: Mecha-Streisand

Thanks Cirt. I've expanded it to the point that I think it's almost ready for GAN. Should I wait until you can add to Reception? Or should I nominate it now, and you could add your stuff later? Let me know, I'm cool either way. (By the way, I passed Beck v. Eiland-Hall. Nice job! :) ) — Hunter Kahn 04:26, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

• Ok. I think you're right it will sit there for a while before it gets reviewed, so I'm going to go ahead and nominate it for now. You can work at it at your leisure. Thanks again! — Hunter Kahn 04:31, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Re: South Park awards

I don't believe so, but I'd say it would be a good idea. (It should be added to the Template:South Park once it's made too...) If I can help, let me know... — Hunter Kahn 04:39, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Locus web comic

I was just wondering why the Locus (webcomic) was deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Track13d (talk • contribs) 17:58, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Could you give a more specific link? Cirt (talk) 00:20, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Leo Ryan GA Sweeps: On Hold

I have reviewed Leo Ryan for GA Sweeps to determine if it still qualifies as a Good Article. In reviewing the article I have found several issues, which I have detailed here. Since you are a main contributor of the article (determined based on this tool), I figured you would be interested in contributing to further improve the article. Please comment there to help the article maintain its GA status. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 05:19, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Spanish Gibraltarians

Hi Cirt, I see that Gibnews was finally successful in his repeated attempts to delete such an article :-) Would it be possible to restore it under my name space? It contained some valuable information I'd like to recover. Best regards --Ecemaml (talk) 10:12, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

 Done, now at User:Ecemaml/Spanish Gibraltarians. Cirt (talk) 00:18, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

about Fluther

I checked the people involved in the deletion log and your name showed up, as well as User talk:NawlinWiki, User talk:JohnCD, and User talk:Skier Dude.

I'm not going to argue the case specifically for Fluther, however I wonder if there should be a list of answer sites as Category:Knowledge markets likely doesn't cover all, such as Fluther, Blurtit, Dizzay, or for that matter, Wikipedia:Reference Desk.

Thanks.
Civic Cat (talk) 19:53, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

You could bring up that idea at the talk page for Wikipedia:Reference Desk. Cirt (talk) 00:15, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Deletion review for Human Instrumentality Project

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Human Instrumentality Project. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.

You dared me to take it up to DRV; I didn't want to, but there it is. --Gwern (contribs) 22:31 28 January 2010 (GMT)

Subpage under the day for Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2010 January 28. Cirt (talk) 00:19, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

FarPoint Media Network

I wish to re-address the deletion of FarPoint Media Network. Article was undeniably dated and incomplete. But the main reasons for the deletion have since changed. The company's notability has increased as FarPoint Media grew to include over 100 diverse podcasts and has upgraded their online presence and activity. And, as a representative from the FarPoint Media Network, I offer to personally update and "substantially improve" the article content. (Pagemaster137 (talk) 23:36, 31 January 2010 (UTC))

Suggest you work on a draft in your userspace. Cirt (talk) 21:51, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

If an acceptable draft is created in my userspace, can FarPoint Media Network be undeleted and modified with the new content? (Pagemaster137 (talk) 05:57, 2 February 2010 (UTC))

We'd have to reevaluate at that point in time. Cirt (talk) 05:58, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Alright. That is do-able. I will work on it in my userspace and let you know when it is complete. Thank you for your help. (Pagemaster137 (talk) 06:08, 2 February 2010 (UTC))

Deletion of 01 Raffles Scout Group

No problems with deletion, but you did not comment on the proposal to revert the article to the redirect that it was before this version of the article was started. I would be happy to leave it dead, but some people will want the redirect. What do you think? When I have time, I will look to see if any material can be added to other articles like the school article. As an admin I can access the material. I doubt there is very much if any. Please reply here. --Bduke (Discussion) 21:50, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

We could wait to see if it even comes up as an issue. Cirt (talk) 21:51, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Sure. I'll let you know if it does. --Bduke (Discussion) 22:20, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

MECWA

21:33, 1 February 2010 Cirt (talk | contribs) deleted "MECWA" ‎ (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MECWA (2nd nomination))

The information came from the website, jubilee history 50 years and annual report 2008-2009.

Yes, I work for mecwacare and was asked to update the information as it was out dated. How can we get this undeleted? Is there any changes that you would reccomend in making? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mecwacare 02 (talk • contribs) 22:09, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Replied at user's talk page. Cirt (talk) 05:52, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ICA (4-Icaroldichloridesulphate aka Icarus)

Hi, you deleted the subject article which I nominated at AfD. This was a bundle nomination along with Icaroldichloridesulphate. It appears you may have overlooked this bundling. Please revisit. Thanks. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 03:25, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

 Done. Cirt (talk) 05:52, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

It's @#%&ing distracting!!!

Was nice to see Bale Out on the main page. :D Congrats — Hunter Kahn 04:17, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Cirt (talk) 05:52, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Awesome article! I enjoyed reading it (and the complaints on the talk page). :) Theleftorium 19:01, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Heh, thanks. Cirt (talk) 19:02, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Question

I really don't want to bother you, but can you give me your ultimate opinion for User:Siechfred/Barad (band) (see archive). Siech•Fred ^Home 10:16, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Good try, but seems to fail WP:NOTE. Cirt (talk) 19:02, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank you!  :-)

Hello Cirt. Hope this note finds you well. Wanted to say thank you for deleting the article about me. I did not start it, never wanted it up, and folks only ever vandalized it to the point I had to check it daily to correct or delete comments of slander and libel. You have saved me lots of time and frustration. So, I wanted to say thanks! Take care and all the best! MH sends

-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.195.209.12 (talk) 10:20, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

No worries, Cirt (talk) 19:02, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

HELP

The entry for David Lewis Anderson has been recreated and the tin-foil hat crowd are working overtime to stop it from being speedily deleted. Nothughthomas (talk) 23:48, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

 Done. Cirt (talk) 00:56, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Lisa Robertson(television)

Why was the article deleted,it shouldn't of been deleted.She's a well known and very popular shopping channel host for QVC and a former Miss Tennessee(Miss America pageant).I see biographies of less known people and less information about them on Wikipedia.And if you're going to deleted her article you need to delete the majority of the articles on Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Laker44 (talk • contribs) 01:45, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lisa Robertson (television). Cirt (talk) 04:48, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

David Lewis Anderson

Hello again Cirt, I know you are busy but I wanted to ask if you would you be willing to take a look at the article in its present form. I worked with AirplaneMan's advice and I think the 3rd party citations and notability requirements were met. I added 3rd party recognition at a high level by the Romanian Government, United Nations, and added multiple 3rd party reputable citations to appearances and work.

I really just want to get this right and hope you will consider my request to look at the article in its present form just before it was deleted and provide any advice. Thanks for the consideration, Jennifer Sciencefrontiers42 (talk) 03:08, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Hello Cirt, I am new to wikipedia, just a couple months. I started working on an article about Dr. Anderson. There were suggestions and concerns raised. As each was raised I addressed each one.

For example, somebody challenge his appointment as an Ambassador for the United Nations, so I added a citation to the actual appointment letter. I did the same with a letter from the Romanian Governments.

(1) We can not prove the letter is legitimate. The letter is hosted on Anderson's own website. (2) Being a "UNESCO Youth Ambassador" is an honorary position similar to receiving a presidential youth physical fitness award. It does not involve any appointment by the UN or even a UN sub-body. It's an award for volunteers given out by private, national-level UNESCO enthusiast/affinity groups. There are tens of thousands of such "Youth Ambassadors." Even if legitimate it is not notable. Nothughthomas (talk) 04:47, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

I added links to his appearances recognizing his work from nationally sindicated shows, magazines, and others.

Only one "nationally syndicated" show was cited: Coast to Coast AM on which he appeared twice in 8 years. The other citations were from podcasts and internet radio, plus one conspiracy theorist magazine. Nothughthomas (talk) 04:47, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Dr. Anderson did a lot for me, his achievements are real and recognized around the world by many verifiable third parties. Please tell us how we can find a solution to make this work.

Provide citations from verifiable third parties that meet WP:CITE, such as links to newspapers (e.g. of acceptable newspaper - New York Times or Le Monde ... not Online Metaphysical Journal of Spooky Science), reputable magazines, books published by persons other than the author, third party news sites (not blogs) that meet WP:CITE (note: examiner.com is blocked from wikipedia from being used as a citation). Nothughthomas (talk) 04:47, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

There was also a lot of slander about Dr. Anderson in some of the comments. I don't know if its a personal attack. I just know I am trying to work within the rules of wikipedia and don't know what to do. Can you advise?

There were serious notability concerns about a man who (1) claims a Ph.D. but is unable to verify when or where he received it, (2) says he invented a time machine and the technology is being suppressed by a secret cabal inside the US government, (3) has only managed media coverage on 1 conventional radio show, twice, in 8 years - plus a smattering of podcasts and website, (4) claims he is running a major mulitnational corporation involved in the most groundbreaking scientific research in the world (time travel), but the address of which happens to correlate to a work-loft building in Rochester that hosts a combination of apartments, real estate agents and dentist's offices, (5) is a known associate of Andrew Basagio, a regular lecturer on the UFO convention circuit who claims he is from the year 1968 and was chased by U.S. secret agents through a time machine to the present day to stop the secret of "teleportation" from leaking to the world. Nothughthomas (talk) 04:47, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Sciencefrontiers42 (talk) 02:30, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

David Lee Anderson is a very nice man and a low-level con artist of marginal talent. His many websites mostly contain a combination of cut-and-paste pages he's lifted from wikipedia and Amazon Associates storefronts (see: biometricvisions.com). In the UFO conspiracy counter-culture there are dozens of people like him - many who attach to themselves various titles like "Dr." or "Sir" etc. without being able to provide proof of holding them - and we cannot include any of them on wikipedia until they do something notable, such as run onto the White House lawn naked with a gun claiming they're being chased by time traveling E.T.'s from Zeta Reticuli or something like that. Nothughthomas (talk) 04:47, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

The relevant prior AFD is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Lewis Anderson. Cirt (talk) 04:49, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Nagaruban Arumugam

Hi, Cirt. You forgot to delete Nagaruban Arumugam when you closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nagaruban Arumugam 2 as delete. Cunard (talk) 05:09, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

 Done. Cirt (talk) 05:12, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Can you please review?

Regrettably, as a result of my tagging the UFO conspiracy theorist entry (above) for speedy deletion, one of the pro-UFO conspiracy proponents of that entry - since it's been re-deleted - has filed an ANI against me and started lobbying the one user I've had a past run-in with to support it who, regrettably, seems to have achieved admin status during my wikibreak and seems intent on hammering home a vendetta against me. Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Incident_with_User:Nothughthomas Nothughthomas (talk) 08:28, 3 February 2010 (UTC)