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September 16

mistake in your information

Dear Sir, I was advised by Ms. Cindy Ashley- Nelson to direct my email to you all In order to inform you a mistake in your publication and information .... I am Mr. Edson Tavares, Brazilian football coach and I use to work in Chongqing Lifan FC - China for 3 seasons 2001-2002-2003 ( the club will confirm that ), and in your information in Chongqing Lifan club is appear that Mr. Stefano Impagliazzo work as a coach .... is completely wrong Mr. Stefano was my physical coach in 2002 season for ONLY 1 month of time ... He never worked as head coach in his own life, special in china ... This information cause me a lot of problems special because people in football compare with my CV. I hope you can repair this mistake and correct as soon it is possible. Thanks in advance Edson Tavares — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.142.135.199 (talk) 01:09, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

I have removed this information since you have disputed and the entry was not cited through a reliable source.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:14, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Life

Mr and Mrs. Imus I watched your show and it is great. I have watched Imus n the morning. The thing that brothers me is that you don't believe in JESUS CHRIST. There is a life after this live. Either you will be in Heaven or Hell. Read John 3:16. Jesus died on a cross for you. His blood will wash a way your sins. Jesus LOVES YOU. Terry L Lofton — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.225.4.181 (talk) 03:00, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:07, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

I have removed the email address from your message to protect your privacy. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:00, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

How do I redirect a subject on a Wikipedia article

How do I redirect a subject on a Wikipedia article? I don't how to do that. Venustar84 (talk) 04:32, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Simply put #REDIRECT [[Target page name here]] on the page you wish to create a redirect out of. See Help:Redirect for more info. Scarce2 (talk) 04:41, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Can someone please redirect the Simpsons character Armin_Tamzarian to the Principal_Skinner article? Thanks! Venustar84 (talk) 04:48, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Two things. 1) I'm not sure why you can't do it yourself. And 2) The redirect has been in place for nearly 2 years. You might want to bring it up for discussion on the talk page of either the episode or Principal Skinner before redirecting it. Dismas|^(talk) 06:35, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Re: Disclaimer

Hi all,

There is a disclaimer on my Wiki page which I'm requesting to have removed it says((This article may rely excessively on sources too closely associated with the subject, preventing the article from being verifiable andneutral. Please help improve it by replacing them with more appropriate citations to reliable, independent, third-party sources. (June 2013) ) This is because as you can see my page was last reviewed in June when there were no links/citations to verify facts. Several links/citations have since been provided to support the facts. Can this disclaimer be removed please?

Kind regards,

Moraa Gitaa. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.242.202.236 (talk) 05:47, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi, firstly, that's not a disclaimer, that's a notice to visitors and other editors that the article needs to be cleaned up. Secondly, it's not your article, although it may be an article ABOUT you. :) Thirdly, I'm looking at the article now, and while that specific cleanup template could be updated, there are other issues that overlap with the "closely related to the subject" part of the template. There is a lot of jargon and phrases that could only be properly understood by people "closely related to the subject". What does the ill-defined "shortlisted" mean? What do concepts like "signatory to the PEN charter" mean? What does "children/women inclusion agenda" mean? While some of these things I could suss out if I had half a brain (barely) as well as time to research the parlance (very little), that effort shouldn't be required of the casual reader. The article needs to be written in such a way as to convey your notability, and explain your contributions/efforts without requiring a prerequisite course in your industry's nomenclature. :) Oh, and if this is your first time at the Help Desk, I should mention that you are STRONGLY discouraged from "fixing" the article yourself because that would present a significant conflict of interest, as autobiographies are almost never written entirely subjectively, no matter how objective you think you might be. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 06:03, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Just adding a link for convenience sake: Moraa Gitaa (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Dismas|^(talk) 06:37, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Urgent

Wikipedia had a lot of information on my family name, Ansari, especially, Origin. It is all gone. Kindly put it back as soon as possible.

Thank you,

Jawad — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ansarijawad (talk • contribs) 06:07, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Don't worry: Wikipedia has no deadline. Ansari is a disambiguation page. These pages contain links to help users find their way around the encyclopaedia. They are not a place to write articles, or to add material that doesn't link to an existing article. That's why the misplaced information was deleted. - Karenjc 07:37, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

It's also possible you are referring to the article Ansari (nisbat). Some information was removed in this edit, because it lacked a source. Our policy on verifiability explains this. -Karenjc 07:54, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

I made that edit while looking into the OP's question. So they are not referring to that edit, unless they are time travelers. :) Dismas|^(talk) 08:03, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Facepalm. So you did. - Karenjc 20:20, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Deleted Pages

In the last 12 months a couple of pages that were of real interest have been deleted. Having read the discussion log, many of the comments had no content. Can these pages : Polarity Therapy and Dr Randolph Stone be reinstated? Regards Graham — Preceding unsigned comment added by Polarityg (talk • contribs) 08:37, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

The situations under which articles might be considered for deletion review are defined at Wikipedia:Deletion review, and that would be the place to raise requests if the relevant criteria are satisfied. The AFD discussions were at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Polarity therapy and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Randolph Stone. - David Biddulph (talk) 09:19, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Problem in Uploading new content on Wiki

Resolved

 – Blocked. It's always easier when block-evaders add a "2" to the end of their new username... Bencherlite^Talk 09:37, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi,

I have been trying to upload content on Stayfree - Wikipedia page using below mentioned creditionals, but every time after saving respective page that changes are not reflecting.

URL: Stayfree Username: Lbiindia2

Steps I am following : - 1. Stayfree page which we need to edit. - Stayfree 2. Clicking on Edit Source 3. Write/Paste the new content.

Can you please guide me through the process if I am following the wrong one.

Thanks in advance. -- Regards, Archi Kathrani — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lbiindia2 (talk • contribs) 09:18, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

There are at least two problems. The material that you have tried to paste is not formatted correctly; you seem to have misunderstood how references are formatted, so you would need to read WP:Referencing for beginners. But more importantly, what you were posting seems to be the same as what led to a similarly named account being indefinitely blocked as being used for purely promotional and advertising purposes, see User talk:Lbiindia. To use an alternative account to get round the block is sockpuppetry, and is not permitted. - David Biddulph (talk) 09:29, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Requesting That A Page Be Made

The request an article thing was way to confusing. You need to simplify that shit pronto. But anyways the band Dayshell needs a wikipedia page. So yeah you should get the ball rolling on that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.177.107.38 (talk • contribs) 11:10, 16 September 2013‎ (UTC)

I think the Articles for Creation process is fairly simple. Have you tried the article wizard? It's quite straight forward.

However, glancing at the band Dayshell makes me wonder if they pass our notability guidelines; it could be that we don't have an article because they're not notable enough. Either way, if you create the article using the article wizard, someone will access whether or not they're a notable enough band. — Richard BB 11:15, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

When I see ""request an article thing" I think Wikipedia:Requested articles, not Wikipedia:AFC. I agree the second is quite good. I don't have an opinion on the process aspect of the former, because I think it is likely to be a waste of time. My guess is that a general request will fall into a black hole. A request posted at a relevant Wikiproject might have better luck.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 12:47, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

uploaded photos in articles

Hello, I've been 'adopting" and editing articles for a few years now. I've also uploaded photos on a couple. Recently, I've been "targeted" by an editor named Dman41689 who keeps tagging my photos for lack of permission (specifically Dave Winfield, Victor Willis and Village People) and deleting them. I copy the 'permission' template, fill it out completely, continually ask him what else I need to do, but he never responds and keeps deleting my photos. I don't want to get into an edit war, but I would like an explanation on why -- or how to provide the extra "permission" that seems to be required only of me. Please, please advise. Thank you. Hotcop2 (talk) 12:58, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

If File:DaveWinfieldbyMarioCasciano.jpg is an example, it tells you there what you need to do. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:24, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Note also that you have had numerous messages on your user talk page at Commons, as that was where you had uploaded the photos, so it is not really a question for the English Wikipedia. You say permission required only of you, but this is not the case; see Commons:Permission. I notice also that on the file referred to above you said "I release this image for use on Wikipedia". You need to check with the experts at Commons, but I believe that such a restriction is unacceptable; my belief is that the licencing conditions require you to release the image to be reused anywhere. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:46, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Illegal link?

Resolved

There's a link on Insidious 2 to watch the film for free!

Surely not right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.8.96.145 (talk) 13:41, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Removed/reverted.Naraht (talk) 13:50, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Use of slash character in titles

Dear editors: I couldn't find a mention of the slash (/) character in the essay about page naming. Does Wikipedia distinguish somehow between the way it stores page names containing a slash (ie., "Apple/Pear pie"), and slashes that indicate a subpage (ie., "Drafts/First draft", "Drafts/Second draft"), or is this an artificial distinction? —Anne Delong (talk) 14:29, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Subpages. Mainspace articles can contain slashes in the title. In other namespaces it gives a subpage. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:37, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. I should have thought of looking there. There are so many places to look, and so little brainpower to think of them all. —Anne Delong (talk) 20:28, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Steps for removing warning at top of article?

I'm looking to get a warning removed from the top of my page. The warning read: This article appears to be written like an advertisement. Please help improve it by rewriting promotional content from a neutral point of view and removing any inappropriate external links. (July 2012). Since it was posted on July 2012 we've taken many steps to rewrite the content to be as accurate/non-promotional as possible, but the warning remains. Does anyone know of steps that can be taken to make sure the page is reviewed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MeghanWelch (talk • contribs) 15:26, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Hard to help unless you tell us which article you are referring to...--ukexpat (talk) 15:53, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Hello Meghan. You may or may not have improved the page sufficiently that that notice can be removed: we don't know until you tell us which page. But I'm afraid that when you say "we've taken many steps" this raises flags for me. Who are "we"? And, more importantly, what is the relationship of "we" to the subject of the article (which is not your page, by the way). I may just be being a suspicious so-and-so, but if you have any connection with the subject, please make sure you are familiar with the recommendations on conflict of interest. --ColinFine (talk) 17:04, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Translating

there's a article from wikipedia that I would like to translate in spanish and I don't know how

69.121.143.142 (talk) 17:01, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Hello. Does Wikipedia:Translate us help? --ColinFine (talk) 17:06, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Do I have to add a mistaken sentence (in my opinion) in order to balance my other sentence?

There is a disagreement in the talk page between myself and other editor. I said that side A started a war. he opposed my opinion. I proposed that each of us will concise his opinion to 1 sentence only, and add both to the article. (provided that both are well supported).

He does not agree. He ask me to write both opinions, otherwise he claims that my contribution is wp:npov. However, I do not agree to the other opinion and do not have a support for it.

Is he right when he refuse to write his view and ask me to add both opinions? Ykantor (talk) 17:04, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

If different reliable sources disagree then you should include both positions, appropriately cited, while being aware of WP:UNDUE. RJFJR (talk) 17:07, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

There is no place in Wikipedia for your opinion or the other person's opinion. There is a place for a statement like "Joe Bloggs, in his book Whodunnit, said that ..." (with a reference to the book, of course). If there is dispute in the published reliable sources, then the article should record this (eg "Sue Smith, writing in the New York Times said that .... "). It is not your responsibility to make a statement with which you do not agree, but it is your joint responsibility (you and the other person) to make sure that all significant positions taken in reliable published sources are mentioned. --ColinFine (talk) 17:14, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you RJFJR and ColinFine. "It is not your responsibility to make a statement with which you do not agree, but it is your joint responsibility...". That was my initial view. I have opened a wp:drn in order to advance the issue. Ykantor (talk) 08:36, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

adjust/reset hover footnotes in articles?

i use footnotes a lot while browsing wikipedia. i recently noticed that there is a setting that allows you to change how long you have to hover over the footnote until it pops up. i started testing out different values. well i think i misclicked or something because now it does not work for me. i believe what happened was that i entered a rather large number (hundreds of seconds instead of milliseconds). is there a link to get to the setting of the footnote hover? i really enjoyed that feature and would like to get it back somehow. i have tried to find a link to where i could reset that value back to its initial 200 milliseconds (i think that was its original value), but i have not had any luck with it.

any help would be much appreciated. thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.233.115.202 (talk) 17:21, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

I suspect that rather than breaking it in some way, it was turned off. Turning it off is one of the options provided and after testing I found that if instead you provide a very high value, say 5,000 milliseconds, that acts to shut it off as if you'd chosen the disable option. To turn it back on, go to an article, scroll to the very bottom and see if there is a link on the right hand side of the page (next to "mobile view") for "Enable Reference Tooltips". Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:56, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Can my watchlist be sorted by date?

Dear editors: Because I work with a lot of new users at Afc who don't always know how to effectively contact people, I have my watchlist set to add every page I edit. However, most of these are not needed after a few weeks. Unfortunately, I often can't remember which articles and talk pages are the recent ones. Is there any way to sort my watchlist by date instead of alphabetically so that I can delete the older items? I have a few pages, such as projects that I am involved in and articles that I created, that I want to keep, but most of the older ones aren't needed. —Anne Delong (talk) 17:25, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

AFAIK no. I have asked in the past if we could have 2 watchlists, in my case because I wanted e-mail notification of changes to a few pages, but not all 500+ on my list, but was told this wasn't an option. Clearly, this cannot be difficult for the Techies to add, so if this solution would solve your problem, it would be another argument for 2 watchlists on the same account. Arjayay (talk) 18:22, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Well, I just thought I'd ask. —Anne Delong (talk) 02:22, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Can I propose to modify a command (insert a cropped image) ?

I have recently inserted a cropped image to an article, using the "Annotated image".

Here is the command template:

• {{Annotated image | float=right| caption=Air dropping supplies to besieged [[Yehiam]], 1948| image=Air dropping supplies to Yehiam, 1948.jpg| image-width=320 | width=280| height=140| image-top=-22 |image-left=-33| annotations=}}

• It is inconvenient to guess the amount of cropping by pixels (image-top=-22 |image-left=-33).

1. Will it be possible to use percentage rather then amount of pixels? e.g. crop 9% from the top rather then "-22" pixels?
2. Will it be possible to merge the "image" command with the "Annotated image"? Ykantor (talk) 17:28, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

@Ykantor: - You are referring to a template, specifically {{Annotated image}}. In Wikipedia, there is no such thing as a "command".

Re #1, the description/documentation at Template:Annotated image makes it clear that percentages aren't allowed, only pixel counts. Wikipedia generally doesn't use annotated images - there are less than a 1000 of them, at least via that template. So while it may be inconvenient not to have percentages as an option, it doesn't seem worthwhile - in my opinion - to ask someone to revise that template, if that's even possible (I doublt it). But if you want to do ask, feel free: the place to do so is at Template talk:Annotated image.

Re #2, I have no idea what the "image" command is. Template:Image exists, but it's not allowed in articles. The old format for adding an image was a wikilink, like this: [[Image:Whatever]], but it makes no sense to try to merge that format with a template. Further explanation of what you're trying to do would be appreciated. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 03:51, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

I apologize for the in-clarity. It is a pity to have an image which a lot of it is the sky. It might be useful to have a convenient method of cropping the image.

Re #1, perhaps editors avoid Template:Annotated image since its' usage is not convenient.

Re #2, is it possible to add Template:Annotated image capabilities to WP:IMGSYN ? e.g. cropping the image? thanks. Ykantor (talk) 04:17, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

@Ykantor: - Re #1, the only existing alternative I know of is to go to Commons, and create a new, cropped image there. That's way more complicated - see Commons:User:Cropbot. Re #2, the Help desk isn't the place to ask what is possible, technically. The right place to ask is at Wikipedia talk:Images (that's the talk page for WP:IMGSYN), or at WP:VPT (where technical folks hang out). If you do ask, please don't ask at both places at the same time. The correct process is to ask at one place. After a couple of days, if you get no answer, or aren't satisfied, you can try the other place, but link to where you asked initially. (People really get irritated otherwise, reading the same question at multiple places.) -- John Broughton (♫♫) 04:07, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

I have already asked at Template talk:Annotated_image. After a couple of days, if I get no answer, I will ask at WP:VPT, as you explained. Thank you. Ykantor (talk) 05:41, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Edits

Hi - If I have recently made edits and additions to a Wikipedia page long does it take for them to appear on the page? Thank you in advance- — Preceding unsigned comment added by RiffMom (talk • contribs) 18:46, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

In almost all cases, changes are immediate. Very few pages have what is referred to as pending changes, a system that delays contributions to allow for moderation. However, I note that the edits you made to Candye Kane were reverted, so they are no longer visible to readers. Ask on the talk page there if you don't understand why they were reverted.  drewmunn  talk  18:52, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Your edits to the article were reverted automatically by software because you used a blogspot site as a source. It's apparent that you have also removed all references to Candye Kane's career in pornography as well. Do you have reason to believe that material is untrue?—Kww(talk) 18:54, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict) The edits are still there in the page history. You can see that there were a number of problems with your version (so in future you should check with page preview before saving), and further reasons for the reversion can be seen in the history as blogs are not regarded as reliable sources. - David Biddulph (talk) 19:02, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

"Background information" area

I am creating a bio page for a living person. How do I add one of those "background information" areas like I've seen on other bio pages? Ruthyuke (talk) 22:12, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Do you mean an infobox, or perhaps one of the specific infoboxes such as those in Category:People infobox templates? - David Biddulph (talk) 22:38, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

But if you are talking about Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Ann Firestone Ungar, then I recommend that you put your effort into the important work, viz providing solid reliable references, before bothering with infoboxes. If you try to publish the article without references it will get deleted. Furthermore, according to our policy on biographies of living persons, anybody may remove any unreferenced material from it at any time, even if it has not yet been reviewed and published. --22:49, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Declined article in sandbox

I was working on an article in my sandbox, and when it was finished, I submitted it. It was later declined and moved to another page. Now my sandbox goes to that other page, and it's being threatened to be deleted if it's not revised soon, but I can't solve the original problem with the article, so what would I revise, and that's not really a solution anyway? The article is Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Tessellation conglomerate if you want to see it. What I'm wondering is how do I reestablish my sandbox page and put my article somewhere for safe-keeping (I already copied the page onto a Microsoft Word document, is that all I can do)? Frivolous Consultant (talk) 22:34, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

I've moved it back to User:Frivolous Consultant/sandbox for you. Of course, unless the subject receives extensive coverage in published reliable sources it will not be suitable as a Wikipedia article. WP is not the place for neologisms or original research. - David Biddulph (talk) 22:46, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

September 17

Hidden redirect

Mos Def shows up at Special:WhatLinksHere/Common_(rapper) through the redirect Common (entertainer). When I search the page and its templates, I don't find that redirect. What is going on?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:14, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

The link table had not been updated yet after at least one of your two navbox edits [1][2]. See Help:Job queue. The article was removed from WhatLinksHere when I made a null edit of it. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:22, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Search history for username via changes made

I want to warn on a user's talk page for copying an entire news account, verbatim, into Fermi 1. I already added the {copypaste} tag into the article, rather than delete en masse.

But in order to find the editor, I'm not sure how to go about searching the article's history for the specific offending text, short of looking at every single edit summary. How might this be done? — VoxLuna ☾ ^orbit_land  

Try WikiBlame RudolfRed (talk) 04:47, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

I would also recommend Wikiblame for articles with many revisions, but doing a quick check to see if the copyvio came in in the first page of article history revisions is easy, and if it is, narrowing it down to the offending edit is also easy. Just go back about halfway and see if the copyvio's present. If so, check the last edit on the first page and if not, you know its in the back half; if your first halfway check desnlt find it, you know it's of more recent vintage and can check the front half. Just keep dividing, forward or backward by halfs and repeat and wash. In this way you can usually narrow it done in a very short time using only a handful of spot checks. Once you have narrowed down to ten or so revisions you can check the diffs (and can often make an educated guess as to which diffs to check in the few you've now isolated, by who the users are). In this case, the copyvio was added in the the most recent edits to the article by an IP. It's been reverted, the history RevDeleted, and a warning given. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:09, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

What if an owner of a popular news source would decline use of a website?

Sorry for the Yahoo Answers type question, but what if an influential content owner became mad at Wikipedia and told the website; either on the website or through the media that they can't use their website as a source? Let's just use Sumner Redstone as an example because he is influential in CBS and Viacom. What would be done if he would say something like "Wikipedia isn't reliable and I don't want CBS News being used to source its articles." Let's imagine that he wouldn't try to enforce this with a Dame Dash type lawsuit and that this involves the local CBS News affiliates as well. Would CBS News be listed as a site that can't be sourced to comply with his request? Or would Wikipedia ignore Redstone because the benefits of sourcing from CBS News, which like all major news platforms has exclusive stories in some cases, drastically outweigh obliging to content owners? --Thebirdlover (talk) 12:14, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

I would say, "bollocks". No website by dictat can prevent Wikipedia linking to it and thus prevent it being used as a source.--ukexpat (talk) 14:07, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia has no obligation to content owners other than to follow the law with regard to copyrights, including fair use. We wouldn't oblige anyone who wants more restrictions than allowed by law. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 20:30, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Table Sorting

In List of sovereign states in Europe by minimum wage, if you sort on the third column (Monthly Minimum Wage in Euros), the UK comes out top, with 1169.47, ahead of France and Ireland with values in the 1400's, and Andorra comes out last with 962, although there are several entries less than 100! In fact, the order is all over the place. I can't see anything obviously wrong in the code, so what's up? Rojomoke (talk) 12:48, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

I think the behind-the-scenes code was confused by the cells containing a dash. I've added data-sort-type="number" to the column heading so that it knows to sort the cells as numbers. See Help:Sorting#Forcing a column to have a particular data type. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:59, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

William J. Florence

Resolved

 – Operator error! --ukexpat (talk) 17:53, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Why aren't the image captions showing? Thank you for your help. Vzeebjtf (talk)

Whoops! I just realized they are missing the "thumb" parameter. [Face-slap] Vzeebjtf (talk) 16:34, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Change Users

I recently had a friend help me create a wiki page for my business. Is there anyway to remove his name as the User with mine ? The Page is located at User:John Stenson/The Office Bistro I have also done a lot of updating to the article is there the possibility of getting the article moved up ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sjturner (talk • contribs) 17:18, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

It has been deleted as unambiguous advertising and promotion. There are useful links on your user talk page and on your friend's. Two pages that you definitely need to read are the guidance on autobiography and conflict of interest. If you want to prooduce an advertising page for your business, Wikipedia is not the place to do it; there are plenty of web hosting sites available. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:36, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/King Carlos Coffee

I wanted to list this Afc submission at WP:Copyright problems for an opinion about close paraphrasing of THIS web page, but I have no idea how to format the entry which has multiple unfamiliar templates, and I gave up. Can someone else do it? Thanks. —Anne Delong (talk) 17:38, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Anne, no point beating about the bush - it's too close a paraphrase and I have tagged it for G12 speedy.--ukexpat (talk) 17:56, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

I see that someone has already tagged it for copyright violation, like this: {{db-copyvio|url=http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Carlos+Pinzon+-+Colombia%27s+coffee+king.-a053392923}}. But as ukexpat says, the article is likely to get deleted soon anyway. Maproom (talk) 18:01, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

As I said, I tagged it for speedy deletion as it looks like a clear case. WP:Copyright problems is for the less obvious cases where, for example, the copyright status of the source may be in doubt.--ukexpat (talk) 18:45, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Well, I wasn't sure. A lot of rearranging of the sentences was done, but the ideas and language were all about the same. I didn't think it should be hanging around in the Afc for six months. —Anne Delong (talk) 02:27, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

How can you attribute properly when an article has no author's name?

I am using Wiki material for a book I am writing and want to give proper attribution to the author. One article I used was on politics, another on inflation, a third on food. However, there were no author’s names.

On the "Creative Commons Attribution..." page it stated: "You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor."

However, I did not see anything about attributing the work in a manner specified by the author or licensor. And, again, saw no author. I am looking in the wrong place? What am I to do about attributions and properly recognizing authors?

Thank you,

Jimmy Benson — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimmy Bens.n (talk • contribs) 18:21, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Wiki material is created by a community, so you attribute it to the wiki you took it from. Of course, material on Wikipedia is cited to a source, so you should find the source the material came from and use that instead. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 18:27, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

[Jimmy Benson writes] Okay. Makes sense: "Wikipedia is cited to a source, so you should find the source the material came from and use that instead." I rather new to Wikipedia. You wrote: "so you attribute it to the wiki you took it from." I don't know how to phrase this ... My question: "What is a wiki, how does one distinguish it and tell one from the other?" Thanks. JB. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimmy Bens.n (talk • contribs) 18:40, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

"a wiki" is a type of website using a type of software; this particular wiki in which we are communicating is the English Wikipedia ("English" in this case meaning "in the English language, not "controlled by the English crown"). --Orange Mike | Talk 18:57, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Does WP:CITEWIKI help?--ukexpat (talk) 18:43, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

[Jimmy Benson writes] I checked CITEWIKI and it had a link to the Tool Box where in the drop down window was "Cite this page." Clicking that link showed me the following: " Page name: Politics; Author: Wikipedia contributors; Publisher: Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia."

At least in this case, the authors are very inconspicuous and low key. For WAR was the same. For ECONOMIC GROWTH it was the same. Are they all the same? In all cases the author is Wikipedia contributors.

However, earlier you wrote: "Wiki material is created by a community, so you attribute it to the wiki you took it from. Of course, material on Wikipedia is cited to a source, so you should find the source the material came from and use that instead."

It is much easier to cite "Wiki contributors" as the authors. Is it illegal to do that? One is legally bound to not attribute an article to "Wiki contributors" but must find the source of the material they got it from or possibly face a lawsuit? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimmy Bens.n (talk • contribs) 19:33, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

I believe he was hinting that using the source where Wikipedia itself got the information may provide you with more accurate information, since anyone could've edited Wikipedia to say wrong things (hopefully it'd not stay for you to see for too long). If you want to cite Wikipedia, you'll want to link back to the history of the article with the words "Wikipedia contributors" for the author. To find the history, there should be a "view history" tab at the top of every article. Hope this helps :) ~Charmlet ^-talk- 20:19, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

@JImmy Bens.nl: Per WP:CITE, "You should not cite any particular author or authors for a Wikipedia article, in general." And, quite frankly, if you were to only put this in each footnote:

Name of article, Wikipedia, date. [The date is very important; Wikipedia articles change all the time.]

that would be quite sufficient to guarantee that the Wikimedia Foundation wouldn't sue you. In fact, I'm not aware of any cases where WMF has sued anyone with regard to copying content, even when Wikipedia was not cited at all. WMF gets all of its revenues from grants and donations, so it really isn't particularly concerned about copying from Wikipedia without attribution.

Richard-of-Earth is generally incorrect in saying that you need to trace the source of materials yet one more step - that is, to look at the citations that support text in the Wikipedia articles, and cite those sources. You should do that if you are using a quotation that you find in a Wikipedia article (all such quotations are supposed to have sources, and to be removed if lacking them); otherwise, the text in the Wikipedia article is not supposed to be copied from a source, and so attribution to a particular source is unnecessary. We do encourage people to look at sources that Wikipedia articles cite (the footnotes), and to use those sources rather than Wikipedia, particularly for academic papers, but that's just a suggestion, not a requirement. And, of course, much (too much) of the text in Wikipedia articles is not sourced (has no footnote), so it's not possible to easily determine where information came from; when it is, the source is often offline or paywall-protected, so again using Wikipedia directly would make the most sense.

Good luck on your book. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 20:24, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

A reader isn't required to trace back to the source WP cites, but it is a good idea. The cited sources should be reliable sources, while WP does not consider itself a reliable source for citing in its own articles. One of the best uses of WP would be to find sources on a subject. RJFJR (talk) 21:27, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Others have commented about whether it's a good idea to base information in a book you're writing directly on a Wikipedia article. If you decide Wikipedia is good enough for your purposes, the mechanics of the citation are easy enough. If navigate to a random article, Supaul for example, and look at the left side of the window, you will see a heading, "Toolbox". There is a little arrowhead next to it; if the arrowhead points to the side, click it to expand the Toolbox heading. Then click on "Cite this page". Appropriate citations in the most popular citation styles will appear. Jc3s5h (talk) 21:40, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Several answers above have commented on whether Mr. Benson ought to be citing Wikipedia in his book. I don't think that is any of our business. We shouldn't be treating him like a Wikipedia contributor who's failing to follow our standards for references, or a schoolchild who is stinting on his homework. It's his book, and we don't even know what it's about or who his intended readership is. If he wants advice he will get it from his editor or his publishers. Maproom (talk) 22:04, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

PDF citation does not support claim

In the article Sel-Sync, the citation[3] does not support this portion of the claim:

D-2 (video) was the first digital recording video tape format to offer Sel-Sync "read before write"

(the PDF addresses analog recording only, not digital video)

Is there a wikicode tag or something to flag this type of citation? Or should the claim be removed? I'm looking to support or remove a similar claim in the D-2 article.

Thank you for your time,

XyKyWyKy aka raffriff42 (talk) 21:17, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

When I have come across something like that, I have simply deleted the reference, with the edit summary "source cited does not support statement". But I guess there must be a politer way of doing it. Maproom (talk) 22:07, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

@XyKyWyKy aka raffriff42 {{failedverification}} if you want to give other editors a chance to discuss/fix the ref. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 23:46, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

That's the one! Thanks! XyKyWyKy aka raffriff42 (talk) 01:06, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

page deletion it violates copy rights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cedric gilmer

please delete article name Cedric gilmer it was only for a class assignment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gilmer123 (talk • contribs) 23:39, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

We have no page named 'Cedric gilmer'. As for 'class assignments', Wikipedia is not a web-hosting service - and note that when you edit Wikipedia, " you irrevocably agree to release your contribution" per our terms of service. You retain the copyright to your material, but you can't withdraw it. AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:52, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

An article by that name was deleted today. Dismas|^(talk) 00:03, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

... but not because it violated copyright. Its creator gave the copyright to Wikipedia when he put the content there. Maproom (talk) 18:10, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

No they didn't. Contributors retain the copyright to their contributions: see Wikipedia:Copyrights. By contributing, they do however allow their material to be reproduced and modified by others, as long as the appropriate attribution takes place. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:16, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

September 18

remaining pages that link to NWA dab

hi. i redirected 13 links from articles that were pointing to NWA to where they were trying to go. could anybody take a look at the current "pages that link to NWA" (in the article namespace only) and verify if the 5 that remain should be left as they are such that the NWA entry in the list might be moved to the "done" section, and/or if any of the remaining 5 do need to be changed what the protocol is. thanks. Hobbit walking party (talk) 00:49, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

I would say you've done a thorough job and can mark it done. -Karenjc 07:06, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Yes, someone else moved it while I was waiting to see if it was ready or not. Thanks. Hobbit walking party (talk) 02:11, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

2012–13 Egyptian protests

The Egyptian army did not hurt morsi supporters. Most, not all, of morsi supporters are sick minded terrorists who attacked the army and the local residents as well as christians and everyone who supports the army with guns and knifes. I am an egyptian girl and i witnessed this scene LIVE. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.38.190.220 (talk) 06:34, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

The place to discuss this is on the article's talk page. Unpublished eyewitness accounts are defined as original research, which is unacceptable here - Wikipedia requires content to be supported by reliable sources. -Karenjc 06:55, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Al-ameen medical college

Al-Ameen Medical College (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

It is not a Tulu minority college instead it is Islamic minority college.

Thanks and Regards Dr Prabhu — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.65.30.190 (talk) 08:24, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Post your comments to the article talk page, or edit the article and cite a reliable source. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:08, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Where is the best place to post proposals for changing the visual appearance of articles?

Dear editors: The following has been posted at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Stefan Rusconi (Artist). It is not an "article for creation", but instead a discussion about the visual style of articles. It doesn't belong in Afc, and I would like to suggest to the writer a better place to post it where he/she may get feedback. What's the best place? —Anne Delong (talk) 12:15, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

My guess is that it might be a topic for discussion at WT:MOS, but at present it isn't clear what the author is actually suggesting. Perhaps it might be clearer if the author were to show us (perhaps on a user subpage) what it is that they are proposing, maybe by showing a draft in accordance with the current MOS and a modified version in line with their prposals. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:31, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Yes, the draft is at Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Stefan Rusconi (Artist) —Anne Delong (talk) 12:38, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

I've seen that draft, but I don't understand what the author means when he/she talks about "visualizing the Wiki acticles topically". - David Biddulph (talk) 13:31, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

He is bolding the key words in the text. I believe that this is an attempt to help a reader, whose eyes are drawn to the bold text, quickly get the gist of an article before deciding whether or which sections to read, or to visually re-find a concept after readng. —Anne Delong (talk) 15:54, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

WT:MOS is as good a place as any to discuss this. Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Text formatting#Boldface is the relevant MOS guidance, so an alternative would be Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Text formatting. I suppose a third alternative for discussing such a proposal would be at WP:VPPR. But really - the table of contents, plus avoiding long sections (and long subsections) seems quite enough, to me, to get the reader to the right place. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 20:48, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

My new page "Bodybuilders who have used Anabolic Steroids" got deleted, and I would like to know why

I recently created this page: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Bodybuilders who have used Anabolic Steroids

It got deleted with the reason: (G10: Attack page or negative unsourced BLP), and I have a hard time understanding why.

The page features a list of people who have all admitted to using anabolic steroids, and this is all backed up by quotes by each individual.

It is not unsourced: Most references are in video segments, where you can hear and see the person willingly admitting to it. Other references are in magazine interviews, again where the athlete in their own words admits to it.

It is not a personal attack on someone: It is not any different from for example the article "Arnold Schwarzenegger" where the same information is provided in the section "Steroid use". None of the people mentioned seem to be ashamed of their use. In the bodybuilding community, using steroids is not something controversial or even shameful; it is common practice.

As a side note I find contributing content to Wikipedia confusing, slow, unnecessary complex and frustrating. I love using Wikipedia to look up information, and I have special knowledge in some areas, so I believe I could be a contributor, but the overall process is too frustrating for me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by UrsusMajor67 (talk • contribs) 12:27, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

A WP:Citation needs to be provided after the information for it to be verifiable. This is important, especially in a situation where real people are involved. See WP:BLP. It's not enough to say that the information is out there, it must be provided. Create an article in your userspace where you have more time to work on it, but keep in mind that unverified/uncited claims about living people is a BLP violation since Wikipedia becomes liable for those claims. If you need any more information then reply here or message me personally and i'll help where i can. Thanks ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 12:34, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Ok, thanks Jenova20. So for each of the persons included in the list I have to type a quote from them admitting to anabolic steroid use. Is this correct? This would be easy if my article is still in the system somewhere, but is seems permanently lost. I have no patience to re-learn all the obscure formatting rules that Wikipedia uses to recreate my article again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by UrsusMajor67 (talk • contribs) 19:30, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Request - Perhaps a friendly admin here can get a copy of the work back for your userspace so you can add in the citations? If you need ay help citing or learning then i can help with that. Thanks ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 20:47, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Is there a template for adding a city or town?

Is there a template for adding a city or town? If not, what is the easiest way to do this? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ND Sonn (talk • contribs) 14:48, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

What do you mean by the term "state town"? --Orange Mike | Talk 18:35, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

I changed it,I wanted to add a town in North Dakota. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ND Sonn (talk • contribs) 20:01, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Do you want to create a new article about a town, or add a town to an existing page? If the latter then which page? PrimeHunter (talk) 20:49, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

New article for a town in North Dakota. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ND Sonn (talk • contribs) 21:47, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

First, identify reliable sources about the town. Then go to WP:Your first article and use the Article Creation Wizard. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:07, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

How to change an article url when it has been mispelt and submitted with the error

Hello

I am having a spot of trouble with my first article on wikipedia and I have misspelt the title when creating the article. As a result, the article Pagename is also misspelt.

Any help on this will be most appreciated.

Kind Regards

AY — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antonioyap (talk • contribs) 15:53, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

I presume that you are talking about Frank masser, which has just been copied from Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Frank Massar. Please in the future use the "Move" function to move pages, rather than creating a new copy, which leaves a problem to be fixed up. The move function is to be found by clicking on the small black triangle at the top of the article, near the search box. However, it appears that sections of the article have been copied from the web site 'http://massartaekwondo.co.uk/12.html', and these will be quickly deleted unless rewritten to avoid copyright issues. The article also needs work on reference format and should have in-line citations (see WP:Referencing for beginners). Are you sure that you don't want to keep working on the old version at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Frank Massar before adding it to the encyclopedia? —Anne Delong (talk) 16:26, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Resolved

Moved to Frank Massar. Nice article but please work on the issues Anne has brought up ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 16:28, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Nope, it was moved to Frank massar, I just moved that to Frank Massar.--ukexpat (talk) 17:01, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Facepalm...Well, i was close! Thanks for double checking Ukexpat ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 20:22, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

User names which are promotional

Dear editors: I would like some guidance as to when to place a user warning when a username is the name of a company or organization, and when instead to report it at Wikipedia:Usernames for administrator attention. For example, there is a user, "Merlinbikegear", making an article about the Merlin brand of motorcycle clothing in the Afc HERE. Is this what is meant by "obvious"? Which route should I use? —Anne Delong (talk) 16:05, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

@Anne Delong: First, I'd like to say it's always a pleasure to see you, you're an excellent editor who asks questions when need be :) To answer your question, names that are "group names", or could represent either more than one person, or an organization as a whole (for example, dell-pr, spiffydayspa, etc.) should be reported to WP:UAA or to an administrator directly for immediate blocking per {{Uw-softerblock}}. If they've already made edits that are promotional, it would be (likely) a {{Uw-spamblock}}. However, group names always get immediate block.

Now, individual names (not names with CEO, those would be group/non-individ names) that are promotional (as the name of the CEO for example) would be blocked per spam/promotion, but not for their username. So, what I think your answer is is company/org names always get blocked asap. ~Charmlet ^-talk- 16:22, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Charmlet. I will report it. What is CEO? —Anne Delong (talk) 16:53, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

(Chief Exective Officer). I will, however, add that it depends on the admin who reviews the report at WP:UAA. I have reported several CORPNAMEs which have only edited AFCs (usually drafts about their companies), and they have not been instablocked on the basis that such edits were not edits in mainspace.--ukexpat (talk) 16:58, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

WP:GROUPNAMEs should be blocked instantly as they are non-individual. ~Charmlet ^-talk- 17:57, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

You say that, but it doesn't happen in practice.--ukexpat (talk) 18:47, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

@Ukexpat: In which case I refer the administrator to WP:GROUPNAME, which, in practice, is supposed to be "inappropriate username AND spam? block with option for unblock-usernamechange. inappropriate username? warn. if continues editing after warning and doesn't ask for help/change username, block until they change it." Most times, it's just better to block, as it avoids them being confused as to why they get the warning, imo the block message is much clearer and more urgent than the warnings. ~Charmlet ^-talk- 21:36, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

A little help please

MEL BIRNKRANT (talk · contribs) has been adding links to his own web site for quite some time. I'm on a tablet and it would take me forever to fix all the articles . Could some experienced editor please lend a hand? Thanks, Dismas|^(talk) 18:02, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

I've started rollbacking them…  drewmunn  talk  18:09, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

I've rollbacked the ones I could find that had not already been resolved, and have left a message on his talk page requesting he discusses such links on their respective talk pages before adding them to articles.  drewmunn  talk  18:16, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Mel Birnkrant is probably one of the top collectors in the world in his field. Some of the links may merit inclusion, subject to local consensus of course. For what its worth, I don't think adding these links violates the WP:SELFCITE part of the conflict of interest guideline or any other part of WP:COI. I don't think this really fits Wikipedia's notion of conflict of interest. He's using his real name, which helps, and COI is a guideline rather policy. The links are being added as external links and although their presence is subject to local consensus, as is everything else, it doesn't strike me as unreasonable for someone to argue that they could meet one of the following criteria.

• WP:ELYES #3. "Sites that contain neutral and accurate material that is relevant to an encyclopedic understanding of the subject and cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to copyright issues, amount of detail (such as professional athlete statistics, movie or television credits, interview transcripts, or online textbooks), or other reasons."
• WP:ELMAYBE #4. "Sites that fail to meet criteria for reliable sources yet still contain information about the subject of the article from knowledgeable sources."

On the other hand, perhaps WP:ELNO #11 applies, "Blogs, personal web pages and most fansites, except those written by a recognized authority. (This exception for blogs, etc., controlled by recognized authorities is meant to be very limited; as a minimum standard, recognized authorities always meet Wikipedia's notability criteria for people.)" depending I suppose of whether he meets the notability criteria. I'm not sure of the extent of coverage in reliable sources.

Anyway, he seems to be getting plenty of advice on his talk page. Sean.hoyland - talk 18:44, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Notable enough for a Wikipedia page?

In addition to the Life Magazine article about him and his collection, I get 15 hits on the archive of Google News, including the New York Times and the Village Voice. I personally think he is considered to be a recognized authority, but having a Wikipedia page about him would probably support that.Naraht (talk) 20:35, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Brad Meltzer article vandalized

Not sure how to report this but I believe the Brad Meltzer article has been vandalized — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.176.56.120 (talk) 19:31, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

 Fixed in this edit.--ukexpat (talk) 19:55, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

remove personal info from profile

I was reading a friend's profile on Wikipedia. I was surprised to see the names of his children. The three children are under the age of 12. Is it possible to get this information removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.224.175.105 (talk) 20:53, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

We need to know who you're talking about first. ~Charmlet ^-talk- 21:32, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Alan Taylor, Film Director — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.224.175.105 (talk) 21:51, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

I've removed it. Thanks. ~Charmlet ^-talk- 21:59, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Note the post two sections below. The rule is not to list young children unless the children have themselves been notable in the press. A request to delete children was done quickly. A request for assistance in adding children (by their mother) was denied. The policy on biographies of living persons is intended to protect living persons, and especially people who are not notable in themselves, such as children of notable people. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:48, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Submission was declined How do we correct?

Below see link for page. We have been working to clear up grammatical errors but if I understand correctly we need to add sources? Just trying to get a clear idea of what needs to happen to get page cleared.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cakeupboy1/Honorable_C_note

Thank you Erica — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.22.226.116 (talk) 21:44, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

The article needs sources and information as to notability, which is why its promotion into article space was declined. It would be helpful to clear up the grammatical errors before submitting, but it is more important to provide the sources and notability information. (An article with grammatical errors can always be copy-edited in article space, although it is better to copy-edit it before submitting. Some reviewers will decline a submission if the draft needs extensive copy-editing.) Robert McClenon (talk) 23:54, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Very New to Wiki and unable to make changes due to another user changing everything back

I've been trying to update my husband (Chris Difford's) page and appear to be annoying a fan/enemy of his who refuses to let me edit his marital status and enter his children's names. I have also been trying to remove a hugely unflattering photograph of him to the right of the page. Every time I make the changes - the user(Egghead06 - who is uncontacable) changes it back. Therefore I can't make contact with other than the polite notes I've made after each change telling them that I am his wife and all the changes can be verified by looking at Chris' website. Egghead06 just keeps saying that I'm not authorised to do so.

Please help me. This is the first port of call for any one searching Chris and this user is stopping me make the changes that Chris himself wants. I don't know how to go about proving the facts I'm changing or how to upload a photo that is preferable

Best

Louise — Preceding unsigned comment added by Loulou660 (talk • contribs) 21:45, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

@Loulou660: First of all, per WP:BLP we generally do not include the names of children unless they are public in some way (i.e. talked about themselves in the press). Also, removing photographs just because you don't like them is not acceptable. Until a better, free image is available, that one should likely stay, as it's the only image we have of his facial features and front side of his body in such detail. User talk:Egghead06 is where you can contact the user, for your information. Lastly, you should not be making changes per your conflict of interest, especially not without reliable, independent sources. ~Charmlet ^-talk- 22:03, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

i have some problems in using my wikimedia..please help

I want to briefly show you my problem

We as the Copts in Egypt do not have professional encyclopedia

And we are trying to document every large and small about the history of the Copts

Unfortunately, we do not know for how to use the wiki Professionally

we need you install and do some things:

A- I want Show Side sections and appear on the home page of the wiki.

B-Topics appear on the home page of the site Automaticly (Wikimedia special molds or something like that)

C-Protection against Spam

D-The list of languages for website translation into many languages

E- Registration page Like Wikipedia

F- template news for wikimedia

i sent you some example of things that we want

link 1

link 2

link 3

link 4

i wait your answer ,, accept my greetings — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samoel Nashat (talk • contribs) 22:40, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

@Samoel Nashat: Does this request for help pertain to the Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia, as discussed here: meta:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Egyptian Arabic? -- John Broughton (♫♫) 04:20, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Fuad 2 birth date

The birth date of king faud 1952 is wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.222.91.81 (talk) 23:24, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Do you mean King Fahd of Saudi Arabia? The article shows his date of birth as 1921. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:42, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

In general, if an article is wrong, you may edit the article and cite a reliable source, or may post to the article talk page. However, in this case, I am not sure what to advise. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:42, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

This would appear to be about Fuad II of Egypt. I have confirmed that 1952 is correct according to reliable sources. See Life Magazine article from August 1952, referring to him as the "7-month-old King Fuad II..." and continuing (under the next page's picture caption) "...born to him and Princes Narriman ... last January".--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:05, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

September 19

Prison Break

Who are the main characters in the show Prison Break? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emundt6 (talk • contribs) 00:40, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Read the article and find out: Prison Break RudolfRed (talk) 01:19, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Building wiki-tables

I thought I could use the new visual editor to build a table, but I guess I cannot.

Is there a way to convert excel spreadsheets into wiki-tables? I tried to use http://excel2wiki.net/index.php to convert an excel sheet to a wikitable but I cannot make it work. Thanks in advance, XOttawahitech (talk) 02:02, 19 September 2013 (UTC)h. T

There's a bunch of others listed at Wikipedia:Tools#Importing (converting) content to Wikipedia (MediaWiki) format. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:11, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

scammers

HELLO, I NEED HELP WITH SCAMMERS IN INDIA, IT IS WITH RESERVE BANK OF INDIA, THEY JUST MY FUNDS AND WILL NOT GIVE IT BACK, THEY PROMISED ME IF I SENT THEM SO MUCH I WOULD RECEIVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT FOR WINNING A HONDA LOTTERY. THEY ARE DECEPTIVE — Preceding unsigned comment added by BLUNTJR (talk • contribs) 04:32, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

This help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. We cannot help you with your difficulties. Contact your local law enforcement agency. AndyTheGrump (talk) 04:40, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

(ec) This page is the help desk for how to use Wikipedia. We can't help with other issues. Contact your bank and/or your attorney. RudolfRed (talk) 04:41, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

TMS

Hello Wiki

Several times I have tried to contribute the page abot TMS - and without success. You say that you are a free enciclopedia- simple question- how to change a page??

Thanks BG — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.101.188.239 (talk) 04:50, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Possibly you could start a new page (see HOWTO) about the organization, fill it with necessary information (see guidelines about notability) and then make a link to it at the TMS page. --CiaPan (talk) 05:16, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

August page views just got deleted for all of WP

At http://stats.grok.se/ all of August pageview statistics have been deleted. They were there yesterday.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:58, 19 September 2013 (UTC)--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:58, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Deleted page "Aschoff Solar"

Dear members,

please be so kind and tell me, how to re-create this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aschoff_Solar

Due to unambiguous advertising or promotion, it was deleted by a member, so I want to remove the part with the advertising or promotion and publish the article again.

What do I have to do?

Thank you in advance

Best regards

Oliver M85 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oliver M85 (talk • contribs) 07:35, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

That article has already been deleted three times this month. I think the best thing for you to do is to stop trying. Maproom (talk) 08:41, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

My first edit!

HI there,

I recently edited a page: 'Real Insurance' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Insurance ... but I noticed that the criticisms that were posted about the original article are still there. Did my edit not deal with the issues in the article?

Many thanks,

Louise McCabe (CraftyLMC) CraftyLMC (talk) 07:57, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Louise CraftyLMC! The tags have to be removed manually. I suggest that you leave a message for Widefox, who added them in the first place, and see if he/she agrees that they are ready to be removed. Don't forget to mention the name of he article. —Anne Delong (talk) 08:43, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

In my view, the problem is not now with your article; you have done a reasonable job, the best you can in the circumstances. The problem is that the company itself is not notable. I doubt anything you can do will change this. Maproom (talk) 08:47, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Barani Institute of Information Technology(BIIT)

Dear editors: I was going to move the above newly created article by adding a space after the word Technology, but then I wondered if the acronym should be there at all, or just added as a redirect. Also, the article has only one primary source. I know that universities are assumed to be notable, but what about an institute within a university? —Anne Delong (talk) 08:04, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

The more I look at this article the more puzzled I become. The single reference leads to a university page, and by clicking on the link to the Institute of Technology, I find that it appears to have a different name .... Oh! I just checked the deletion log and found that Barani Institute of Information Technology has been deleted four times already... —Anne Delong (talk) 08:25, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Linking to articles within paid software

So I'm considering making a (paid) app for mobile devices, and within it I might link to Wiki articles. I understand that Wikipedia runs under the Creative Commons license, which means I can't use any of the content in the articles if the app isn't free. But is it illegal to simply link to an article within paid software? My gut says no, as long as the content stays on the page but I'd like to make sure. What about just the title of the article as well? And pictures... Is it okay to display an image directly from its URL (accessed through an internet connection to the site, not saved locally) as long as I directly link to the article I pulled it from? Or does the image have to be viewed on the site itself? Thank you for your time. :)