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[[User:Lucy.n.tate|Lucy.n.tate]] ([[User talk:Lucy.n.tate|talk]]) 04:52, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
[[User:Lucy.n.tate|Lucy.n.tate]] ([[User talk:Lucy.n.tate|talk]]) 04:52, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
:Indeed [[User:Lucy.n.tate|Lucy.n.tate]], feel free to include it in an appropriate place in the article. You might want to add some details. [[User:Wikisiki999|Wikisiki999]] ([[User talk:Wikisiki999|talk]]) 05:33, 20 February 2017 (UTC)


== Immigration ==
== Immigration ==

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Net neutrality

After 30 days without discussion:

Please add [[File:111014 NetNeutrality Final.ogv|thumb|right|108px|<small style="font-size:xxsmall">11/10/14 WH.gov</small>]] at the begin of the internet policy section. 2A03:2267:0:0:601C:F335:641F:2D2A (talk) 15:12, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done, lack of discussion is not consensus. There wasn't any discussion even by the proposer. - GB fan 18:00, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No discussion at all (in the 30 days before the archive-bot does its duty) is not controversial, and the whitehouse.gov source page + video were blanked for obvious reasons. The edit request was IMHO sensible + specific. I take the 5th for necessary in the four WP:ER general considerations, and fixed the source-URL on commons. Now it's your job to check if that counts as You can help make this article even better! –2A03:2267:0:0:F07F:4BB:C093:71D2 (talk) 12:21, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It is not my job to do anything on here, like most on here am a volunteer. If you want it added you need to convince others why it belongs and you haven't done that. - GB fan 15:43, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Grew up in the Pacific"?

In the lede section it says "Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii two years after the territory was admitted to the Union and grew up in the Pacific." I contend that "grew up in the Pacific" (the link is to the Pacific Ocean) is meaningless. Where he actually grew up: born in Hawaii, a year in Washington State, another 5 years in Hawaii, 5 years in Indonesia, and 8 years in Hawaii. Clearly he spent most of his growing-up time in Hawaii (and none of it in the Pacific Ocean). For purposes of the lede I think it should say something like "grew up mostly in Hawaii, except for five years in Indonesia." I am open to other ways of expressing his youth. Since this is the lede it should summarize and not go into great detail. Thoughts? --MelanieN (talk) 05:15, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Good points. After some consideration of how to phrase it, I chose to change it to "He grew up mostly in Hawaii, but also lived one year in Washington state and four years in Indonesia during his childhood." I think that is not too much information, and rather relevant, as it takes some time to actually find this information from the much more detailed sections later in the article and is a useful summary of his childhood to bring in the lead. As always, the sentence is still open to subsequent rephrasing if anyone finds better ways to phrase it. :-) --Jhertel (talk) 13:03, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Extended confirmed protection question

I notice that this page, along with the pages about Donald Trump and his wife Melania have been extended confirmed protected in the past couple of days. This page and Donald Trump have been given indefinite protection and Melania Trump has been given protection for 1 year. My question is whether we plan to keep them this way, like we do semi for several thousand articles already, or if we plan to reduce to semi again once the high vandal risk goes down (Trump was inaugurated the other day). I'm simply asking because we have never used indefinite extended confirmed protection on pages about presidents before, and I thought it was virtually never used indefinitely on articles not related to the Israel-Palestine conflict. Can somebody confirm please.

Gourleyo (talk) 11:23, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ping the protecting admin. Regarding Donald Trump, it's only a very short term measure due to a) current news and extremely high visibility; and b) currently disputed content. See this. Indefinite, on Trump, is a means to prevent the article defaulting to no protection upon expiry. -- zzuuzz (talk) 11:32, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
We can reevaluate in a year whether ec protection is really necessary. It clearly seems necessary at this point.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:39, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah. I asked about Trump in November following his victory and was told that, but I thought I'd ask again. It just seemed weird to indefinitely extended confirm protect a page only after he has ceased to be president. Gourleyo (talk) 11:35, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I see it was me who answered you last time :) Protection was reduced that time within several days, and the semi-protection worked, on the whole. This article and Melania Trump don't seem like good candidates for ECP. -- zzuuzz (talk) 11:39, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I protected both since I see ongoing disruption. Once the inauguration hype is over, we can re-evaluate the protection.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:41, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 22 January 2017

In the post-presidency section, add that the Obamas moved to Kalorama, Washington, D.C. on leaving office. Source: http://edition.cnn.com/2016/05/25/politics/obama-kalorama-washington-dc-leases-house/

This is essential information for the reader, who will be asking "So where did he go to live after being president?" Valentina Cardoso (talk) 18:50, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

 Done--Ymblanter (talk) 21:24, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

International sanctions during the Ukrainian crisis

There is nothing in article about most important International event of 2014 - Russian military intervention in Ukraine (2014–present), and about the reaction of Obama (International sanctions during the Ukrainian crisis) on that event. This is weird !!!! M.Karelin (talk) 19:06, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done – when making an edit request, provide an exact copy of the text you want in the article, it's not clear what you want. Laurdecl talk 01:26, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 22 January 2017

I would like to point out the pronoun error in the first paragraph that—from my observations—breaks with Wikipedia precedent. I move to change "... was the first African American President of the United States, serving as the 44th President from 2009 to 2017." to "... is an American politician who served as the 44th and first African American President of the United States."

However, I will rescind my request if there is a new protocol involving the use of past tense to describe his relation to the presidency. Thank you. Frevangelion (talk) 01:05, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done – Personally, I find the second sentence confusing: "the 44th and first African American". This change would probably require consensus. Laurdecl talk 01:32, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The article has been changed back to the standard format for a president: "...is an American politician who served as the 44th President of the United States from 2009 to 2017. He was the first African American to serve as president...". This probably represents consensus as it has been in this format for years.--MelanieN (talk) 03:16, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 January 2017

Post-presidency (2017–present)

Barack Obama's presidency ended at noon on January 20, 2017, immediately following the inauguration of his Republican successor, Donald Trump. After the inauguration, Obama lifted off on Marine One, circled the White House, and flew to Joint Base Andrews.[1] The family rented a house in Kalorama, Washington D.C.[2]

Presidential library

Main article: Barack Obama Presidential Center

The Barack Obama Presidential Center[3] is the planned presidential library of Barack Obama. The center will be hosted by the University of Chicago, and will be located in Jackson Park on the South Side of Chicago, Illinois. Once completed, it will become the 14th site in the National Archives and Records Administration's presidential library system.[4] The nonprofit Barack Obama Foundation was set up to oversee the creation of the Center and the building of its site.

2607:FEA8:20E0:6C3:80C9:E3C5:6DE0:AA2B (talk) 22:24, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. EvergreenFir (talk) 22:30, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Korte, Gregory (January 20, 2017). "Inside Barack Obama's final hours in the White House". USA Today.
  2. ^ Kosinski, Michelle (27 May 2016). "Peek inside Obama's post-presidential pad". CNN. Retrieved 22 January 2017. {{cite news}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
  3. ^ "The Obama Presidential Center". barackobamafoundation.org.
  4. ^ "Obama Foundation FAQs". Barack Obama Foundation.

Presidential seal edit request on 24 January 2017

I am asking for the addition of the Presidential seal into President Barack Obama's ranking, as seen in past president's Wikipedia page.

I have written out the following text for a transfer onto the page and to remove the pre-existing labels. Fernandillo1 (talk) 04:34, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit extended-protected}} template. - Mlpearc (open channel) 23:44, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 January 2017

It says that Obama left in Marine One. Isn't technically no longer Marine One once the passenger is no longer president? 74.90.249.37 (talk) 06:01, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done Thank you, - Mlpearc (open channel) 23:38, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ukrainian crisis

In the intro, in the same section that says During his second term, Obama promoted......., the following sentence must be added: following the invasion in Ukraine, initiated the sanctions against Russia. Regards. 46.71.225.61 (talk) 15:12, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit extended-protected}} template. - Mlpearc (open channel) 23:40, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Mlpearc Ukrainian crisis was the most prominent event in 2014 !! There is nothing about it in the article. That's shame !! 217.76.1.22 (talk) 06:06, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@217.76.1.22: Then it should be very easy for you to provide a reliable source to support the change you want made. - Mlpearc (open channel) 15:53, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Mlpearc According to The Atlantic, it was N1 event in 2014 - [4]. Is it enough source for you ?? Plz make an addition in intro. 178.160.172.191 (talk) 21:05, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) A reliable source to support your claim is good enough for me, but I'm just one editor and to be clear I'll let someone else determine if this request should be actioned with this new information. Happy editing, - Mlpearc (open channel) 21:16, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Anthony22 and Tataral, plz pay attention on this section. Thanks. 178.160.172.191 (talk) 21:09, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I certainly agree that his response to the Ukrainian cricis should be mentioned in the article and preferably in the lead, that Obama and his government had a major role in the sanctions, and that they were highly important foreign policy initiatives of the Obama government (among the most important during his presidency in the field of foreign policy). I'm really supposed to sleep now, so I won't do the necessary edits myself right now, but I might have a second look on this issue tomorrow if it's not already resolved. --Tataral (talk) 23:31, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 January 2017

Obama took off in Executive One on January 20th, not Marine One. Marine One carries the president. Wickegan (talk) 22:18, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done - Mlpearc (open channel) 23:41, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 January 2017

2605:E000:638D:AB00:340F:4913:B6FC:2FCA (talk) 23:26, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
Not the first African American president, he was the first mixed race president..[reply]
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. - Mlpearc (open channel) 23:42, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The facts in this article are reference with appropriate sources and references.

No viewpoint is more represented than another throughout the article.Mreaux (talk) 17:28, 25 January 2017 (UTC)MR[reply]

Conversations with Barack Obama

Xb2u7Zjzc32 (talk) 10:41, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 8 February 2017

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/images/2009/01/20/obamaofficialfoto.jpg (Replace the main photo on this page currently with this one.) N8k1ng (talk) 04:32, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: There's no way to determine from that link the license status of the image. —C.Fred (talk) 04:33, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I´m pretty sure it is the main foto we used his first term. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:13, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Drone death toll

During the Obama administration, U.S. drone strikes in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, and Libya killed an estimated amount of civilians between 64 and 116. [1]

Lucy.n.tate (talk) 04:52, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed Lucy.n.tate, feel free to include it in an appropriate place in the article. You might want to add some details. Wikisiki999 (talk) 05:33, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Immigration

Obama deported more undocumented immigrants than any other president in the history of the United States. [2]Lucy.n.tate (talk) 04:58, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/02/world/us-reveals-death-toll-from-airstrikes-outside-of-war-zones.html
  2. ^ http://www.nationalreview.com/article/444999/trump-deportation-policy-obama-legal-illegal-immigration
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