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February 26

What does the REFUND in WP:REFUND stand for?

Does it stand for the word refund, or requests for undeletion? I.hate.spam.mail.here (talk | contributions) 00:00, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@I.hate.spam.mail.here: I think it can mean both things. Because in the sense of the word, when you are requesting something you made to be undeleted, you're requesting that you be refunded that thing. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 00:03, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

I guess it was chosen [1] as a kind of pun because it could mean both things. That's probably also why it became popular. It's not the only or oldest shortcut for Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:38, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

2022-23 NCAA Division I Men's basketball season

Can you fix the reference i made please. 98.186.54.177 (talk) 03:03, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

 Done Although you should probably find a better source since that uses HTTPS (which is more secure than HTTP, but doesn't mean it's a bad ref) instead of HTTP. Are there no RS's that talk about that? ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 03:08, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

the sky is blue

Hi, how do I disable this wonderful and extremely useful new "feature" that demands my attention at the top right hand of my screen to let me know that I've made an edit when I've made an edit? Thank you. Dr. Vogel (talk) 16:19, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

There is a bit of discussion in this past thread discussing this notification including how to disable it. Jessamyn (talk) 19:50, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you :) Dr. Vogel (talk) 14:26, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Reporting users only here for promotional purposes

I don’t know where to report users who are only here for promotional purposes, would it just go to the general noticeboard?--CreecregofLife (talk) 16:20, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Use the Conflict of Interest Noticeboard: WP:COIN. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:26, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Password Recovery Failed

Hello,

I am trying to get into my account, and my Password Recovery step did not send a link to my email. I tried both my current and old email account (over several days). Please help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.236.226.46 (talk) 16:45, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Did you check your spam folder? Also, emails can sometimes take a few hours to deliver. Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:20, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Problematic bot template for locations in Poland

I'd like to ask the administrators for input regarding a problematic situation, which I identified on many Poland stub articles for towns and villages. It appears that the original template used by a bot to generate the stub articles, included a very POV-ish stand alone statement: "Before 1945 the area was part of Germany." (example: [2]) This statement is present in hundreds of stub articles. Also, I would like to note that in itself the statement is not incorrect, however given the fact that many of those places changed hands multiple times though their history, to just have this one stand alone blurb lacking any further historical context is extremely unsettling and creates undue weight issues within the stub article. My question is how can this be remedied, on a large scale, by either adding a bit more historical context, or removing it completely. --E-960 (talk) 18:10, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

The answer is to expand the articles, to fully cover the history of what countries they were in through the ages. Mjroots (talk) 18:23, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Mjroots, this is in HUNDREDS of stub articles, not just in the one I provided as an example. Also, it is blatant POV, and I'm actually taken aback that a template was created to include this stand alone blurb while omitting other facts. I mean seriously, "before 1945 it was Germany" going back to the last ice age? Such poor editing on a large scale needs to be properly addressed not dismissed. --E-960 (talk) 18:47, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Side note: A simple query shows that there are about 3000 articles with this sentence. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 19:03, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Mjroots, also in a related and ongoing discussion[3] another user Phil Bridger, noted that such content is indeed questionable for such a stub article. --E-960 (talk) 19:15, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Also just carrying over the discussion, Black Kite, Phil Bridger and Rsjaffe do you have any suggestion how this issue could be fixed either by augmenting the statement using a bot to provide full context or removing it, as it appears in 3000 or so stub articles across Wikipedia. --E-960 (talk) 21:27, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

This region does have a complex history, so some context, delivered as briefly as possible, would be useful to the casual reader unfamiliar with the region.

My suggestion is to do one of the following:

1. Add hatnote like: {{for|history of the region, see|[[wikilink to pomeranian history here]]}}

2. Add a history of the region link and category to each template in the category West_Pomeranian_Voivodeship_gmina_templates (I don't like this idea, personally).

3. Add a See also section with a link to pomeranian history.

4. Include a sentence in the article: For the history of the region, see History of Pomerania. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 22:23, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

I'm sorry if this sounds snarky, but don't you people read? As was stated, the problem is in thousands of articles. Suggesting manual edits of thousands of articles is NOT a viable answer.ArtKocsis (talk) 04:23, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but don't you read? The discussion has moved to talking about using a bot to edit. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 05:06, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Rsjaffe, indeed I think adding a bit more detail to provide full context would be a good idea, as for using a bot is this an option that a regular user can request? I have to admit I do not know anything about bots, who can use them and how. --E-960 (talk) 14:37, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

WP:BOTREQ. You are more likely to have success there if you have a specific thing that is to be done. [Adding] a bit more detail to provide full context is much to vague.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 14:57, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

February 27

Name of Financial Times article

If there's a better place to ask this, please let me know. Basically, I'm trying to clear some of the "generic title" cs1 errors. I need someone who has a Financial Times subscription to literally just confirm the name of this article: Shubber, Kadhim (11 December 2020). "Subscribe to read | Financial Times". Financial Times. Retrieved 2021-01-10. {{cite news}}: Cite uses generic title (help) I'm pretty sure it's called "Lawsuit tracker: Donald Trump's legal battle runs into repeated dead ends", but it technically could just be the article named on the subscribe page that it redirects me to. Thanks for any help! --Xurizuri (talk) 06:18, 27 February 2022 (UTC) (please ping me if you respond)

@Xurizuri If you don't get a good reply here, try WP:RX. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:10, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Merge?

Should BVW and BWV (disambiguation) be merged? Both are disambig pages. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 06:33, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Bubba73, LBW is also a disambig page. Why not merge all three? Because none of the three "LBW", "BVW" and "BWV" is the same as either of the others, that's why not. -- Hoary (talk) 07:31, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Whoops, I didn't notice that the last two letters were swapped. Why does one have "(disambiguation)" and the other doesn't? Should it be added to the one that doesn't have it? (I don't know the policy.) Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 08:23, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Bubba73, editors have supposed that when people look for "BWV", they're highly likely to have Bach-Werke-Verzeichnis in mind (though they may not remember the latter name). Thus BWV redirects there, and an additional page is created for disambiguation. (Such an arrangement isn't limited to abbreviations. Obama redirects to Barack Obama, and there's an additional page Obama (disambiguation) -- note the "hatnote" advertising it atop the article about the Prez.) But there's nothing similarly popular/preferred for "BVW", and therefore BVW is itself a disambiguation page. -- Hoary (talk) 12:08, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Yes, in fact, I was looking for the Bach abbreviation (and transposed the last two letters). Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 17:38, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Two different UTCs for creation

What I see in Michigan on my 3 PCs as the first edit of Samuel Loudon is -

Revision as of 04:22, 24 February 2022 (edit)
Gwillhickers (talk | contribs)
(Create Article: Samuel Loudon (printer))

What the creator of the article sees on his PC in California (3 hours earlier) as the first edit of Samuel Loudon is -

Revision as of 04:22, 23 February 2022 (edit)
Gwillhickers (talk | contribs)
(Create Article: Samuel Loudon (printer))

This then presents the problem of where to place the article listing in Template talk:Did you know, as it is suppose to be listed in the section of "Articles created/expanded on date". What date should the article be listed under, the 23rd or 24th? Why would different PCs on opposite ends of the United States show different dates of creation? --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:59, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@Doug Coldwell: Times in logs are UTC by default but the time zone can be set at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering. 04:22, 24 February 2022 is the UTC time. Are you sure it says 04:22 for him? If he has set California time (America/Los Angeles) at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering then it should say 20:22, 23 February 2022. There is no time zone where it should say 04:22, 23 February 2022. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:19, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Bingo. From a screenshot he emailed me IT DOES IN FACT say 20:22, 23 February 2022. So then he created the article on February 23rd = right? --Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:58, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

No. 2022-02-24T04:22 UTC (Wikipedia time). Gwillhickers time is PST which is UTC-08 so: 2022-02-24T04:22 UTC - 08:00 = 2022-02-23-20:22 PST which is Gwillhickers time.

Creation/edit/other dates at en.wiki must all be referenced to the same timezone else confusion. For the avoidance of confusion, en.wiki uses UTC as the time/date arbiter.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 15:34, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@Trappist the monk: So are you saying February 24th is the date of creation. IF that is the case then the article listing in Template talk:Did you know should be under the February 24 section as it is suppose to be listed in the section that the article was created. It is now listed at Template_talk:Did_you_know#Articles_created/expanded_on_February_23. So, should it be listed instead at Template_talk:Did_you_know#Articles_created/expanded_on_February_24? --Doug Coldwell (talk) 16:36, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

It is not for me to say because I have never had anything to do with dyk. Shouldn't your question be directed to the editors who run WP:DYK? Isn't it for them to decide which date (the en.wiki reference date or the user-configured date) is the date that determines where in the queue a dyk candidate belongs? Perhaps the rules at WP:DYK should be clarified.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 16:54, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

• @Trappist the monk: You were most helpful. Now I see how the difference came about = because of Preference setting. I'll take it from here. Thanks again.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 17:31, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Urdu Language add request

Dear Concern, I would like to request you kindly add Urdu language in WIKIPEDIA then we can easily understand about the information. Thank You

Regards Muhammad Hassan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.110.81.141 (talk) 13:21, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

There has been an Urdu-language Wikipedia since January of 2004. You will find it here. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:34, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

But, Muhammad, this doesn't mean that every article in English Wikipedia is also available in Urdu Wikipedia: far from it. Each edition of Wikipedia is a separate project, with its own rules and policies, and its own cohort of volunteer editors The articles which exist in Urdu Wikipedia are those which some editor there has chosen to create: they may be based on translations of English articles, or they may not. --ColinFine (talk) 18:13, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Both the English Wikipedia and the Urdu Wikipedia are volunteer projects, with all content created by volunteer editors. You can help! Since you can read English and presumably are fluent in Urdu, you can pick a few articles from the English Wikipedia and translate them to create articles in the Urdu Wikipedia: see Wikipedia:Translate us. Go to the Urdu Wikipedia help desk to ask them about their procedures for this. -Arch dude (talk) 18:27, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

photos and how to know if he's authorised

Yesterday, I asked a photographer to be authorised to use a photo that belongs to him. If he authorises me to do so, will I be allowed to use in all Wikimedia projects and how will I be able to know if he's authorised me or not as the reply email will be sent at permissions-en@wikimedia.org? Dr Salvus 13:32, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

The waiver, if given, will be for anybody and everybody to use that photograph, subject to certain specifics of the license they grant. It will not only be for all Wikimedia projects, but for private projects, commercial exploitation, etc. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:36, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@Orangemike thanks but you haven't replied to the other question yet Dr Salvus 14:10, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Dr Salvus, you ask for the photogapher to be authorised. He is the only one who can do the authorising. He can most easily do it by creating a an account on Wikimedia Commons and uploading the photo there, declaring it as his own work and providing a suitable license. If he does, you will then be able to use it in all Wikimedia projects. Maproom (talk) 15:28, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Maproom what I've asked is: If the authorisation will be given and he writes the autorisation at permissions-en@wikimedia.org, how can I know he's given the permission? Dr Salvus 15:35, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

You could ask him (and ask him what filename he uploaded it to). If you don't want to do that, you can search Wikimedia Commons for the filename he might have used. Maproom (talk) 15:39, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Why isn't the assasination of Alberta Williams King listed in the daily historic events of June 1974?

I am aghast to read through the tumultuous record of June 1974 and find this omission? I am not a contributor to Wiki but am reaching out to someone better qualified than myself to amend this record. It is important for posterity to document the record of these acts of social illness and evil. Lest we forget. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:9000:810B:857F:C127:66E2:2A84:9ABB (talk) 15:17, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Alberta Williams King.   Maproom (talk) 15:31, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

I'm assuming you mean the WP-article June 1974. The answer is very likely "None of the c. 20 people who edited that article thought about it, quite possibly because they knew nothing about her." WP, like history, is made by the people who show up. The best solution: WP:Be bold. WP:TUTORIAL can be of help to you. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:53, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

For the record, her death is mentioned in June 30#Deaths, 1974#Deaths, and 1974 in the United States#June. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:29, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

I have implemented the change myself. It's pretty easy to add things like this if the article you're looking at has the information in it already – write a sentence saying "xxx happened to xxx" and copy over a source supporting the content from the associated article you're looking at for reference (in this case, Alberta Williams King). Just check the source quickly to see if it backs up the information you're attempting to add, and then add it. Good luck! Skarmory (talk • contribs) 00:40, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Infobox backlog sorting

I'm looking through the backlog on Category:Wikipedia infobox backlog, and it seems that a lot of the articles labeled as needing infoboxes already have them. Is there an automated way to check if an article has an infobox and to remove it from the category if it does? Or do users have to check them all one at a time and remove the tags on the talk pages individually? Thebiguglyalien (talk) 18:01, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

It's all done via WikiProject tags. It's not automated, but you can use the rater script to remove it. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:07, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@Thebiguglyalien: If someone wanted to write a Quarry query that contains a list of talk pages in Category:Wikipedia infobox backlog whose articles have an infobox, I'd then submit a bot request to run through that list and remove the infobox needed parameter.

Another issue is talk pages that state the articles need infoboxes/photos, but the articles are now redirects, so the WikiProjects need to be changed (e.g. this edit to Talk:Ismail Adouab. GoingBatty (talk) 23:51, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Cannot login to Wikipedia Mobile app and other language wikipedia account

My wikipedia account is made through id.wikipedia.org. I have problems logging in directly to en.wikipedia.org, I have to login through id.wikipedia.org first, then access en.wikipedia.org. Now I have installed wikipedia Android app, and I cannot login with my account, I'm not sure whether there is switch to id.wikipedia in the mobile app. Is there anything I should do to merge my account or to be able to login? Thanks
--FeliciaKrismanta (talk) 18:40, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@FeliciaKrismanta: Hi there! See mw:Wikimedia Apps/Android FAQ#Set/change Wikipedia language and m:Help:Unified login. Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 23:57, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia page for own band projects

Hi there!

A friend of mine would like to create his own pages on Wikipedia for his band projects https://j-sax.ca and https://live-sax.ch. Is he authorized to do so?

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Kind regards

Tom — Preceding unsigned comment added by TomRobShe (talk • contribs) 18:47, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello @TomRobShe, thanks for asking. It is very (very) likely that such an attempt will not be successful but a waste of time, his and other's. Please take the time to read these links: WP:BAND, WP:COI and WP:AUTO. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:22, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Business Magnet vs Business Magnate

Please concur and assist. "Business magnate" is incorrect business terminology. It should be termed "business magnet". It is understandable mistake though. But, a "magnate" is of royal office not even in a "business enviroment". Therefore, any references to a "business magnate" would technically be considered an oxymoron. However, when, refering to a "business magnet", it generally infers an attractive quality of someone in business. Similar to a "magnetic attraction". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karen Yvonne Harrington (talk • contribs) 20:33, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@Karen Yvonne Harrington: Hi Karen. I can find no usage of the term "business magnet". The correct term, as is used in our article, is business magnate. —C.Fred (talk) 20:36, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

See any online dictionary: [4], [5], [6]... AndyTheGrump (talk)

Even a google search will clarify things. business magnet will get you things that stick to refrigerators; business magnate will get you captains of industry. Magnet and magnate are homophones. I suggest reading up on them.— rsjaffe 🗣️ 21:16, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

And a business magnate is not about attraction. Magnate is a much more appropriate word than magnet, but that's not why we use it. The important thing for Wikipedia is what reliable sources say, and they say business magnate. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:42, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Possibly this comment relates to Elon Musk, who demanded that the Wikipedia article on him call him a "business magnet" (not "business magnate") a while ago. See Talk:Elon Musk/FAQ. — Bilorv (talk) 21:33, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Well, Elon can call himself whatever he wants. In reality: magnet🧲 magnate😁💰 — rsjaffe 🗣️ 21:53, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

There are babe magnets, so it's not that farfetched, but Musk was only joking. Clarityfiend (talk) 11:44, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Lock / Delete MY account

Hello! Please close/delete/ lock my account and associated information ). Thanks!

@SalmonMaple: Accounts cannot be deleted. Just stop using your account. RudolfRed (talk) 22:08, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Not that this helps anyone but I'm always puzzled by the accounts whose only edit is to request deletion. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 22:32, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

You can probably request for it to be blocked, which will lock the account; however, the account name will still exist, and if you change your mind, you can request an unblock. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 00:44, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Page Status

I created a new page months ago and it has not been approved or rejected. Is there a way to know how much longer until it is reviewed or how to expedite the process?

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by John4243 (talk • contribs) 22:02, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello, John4243. You created Draft:Edwin J. Hess, but you have never submitted it for review, so it is likely that nobody has looked at it. Please past {{subst:submit}} (including the double curly brackets) at the top, and that will submit it for review. Even then, there is no way to tell how long it will take, as it is not a queue: reviewers pick up drafts as they choose. But it looks to be well-structured, and the references presented properly, so my guess is that a reviewer will look at it fairly soon. (I express no opinion as to whether it is likely to be accepted or not: I haven't looked at the references or (much) at the text. ColinFine (talk) 23:50, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Correction: you have previously submitted the draft and it was declined. You removed the decline notice (despite the message "Please do not remove reviewer comments or this notice until the submission is accepted.") and thereby removed the "Resubmit" button. I have restored it, so you may resubmit it.

I obeserve that you claim to be the copyright holder of the photo File:Hessimg2.jpg and the other two photos in the draft, which strongly suggests that you have a connection with Hess. If so, you need to read about editing with a conflict of interest, and if you are in any way paid for this work, or it is part of your employment, you need to declare yourself as a paid editor. ColinFine (talk) 23:57, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@John4243: Suggestion: source the info about his work outside of Exxon. Don't add anything that isn't sourced. For example, the entire last paragraph is unsourced. Otherwise this would be better added to ExxonMobil#Environmental record and his name turned into a redirect. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 03:09, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@John4243: Each award should also have a published reliable source. Also, see WP:SURNAME. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 03:16, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

February 28

Template:Birth year and age/doc

Could someone take a look at Template:Birth year and age/doc and fix this error:

If the person was born after 28 February 1967 then they will be Error: Need valid year, month, day years old on 28 February 2022 as they have not had their 55th birthday yet. On the other hand, if they were born exactly on or before 28 February 1967, then they will be 55 years old.

Thanks --76.14.122.5 (talk) 06:58, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

The expression uses {{CURRENTDAY}} + 1 to build a date from which to calculate the age; this will (almost) always fail on the last day of the month, as it will generate an invalid day number (ie today 28 Feb 2022 it will try to use 29th February). (Almost always, because it is using {{CURRENTYEAR}} - 55}}, so one year in four there will be a 29 Feb. But it will always fail on 29 Feb, 30 Apr/Jun/Sep/Nov, and 31 of other months.) --Verbarson ^talk_edits 12:02, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Using the {{#time}} parser function may have fixed this.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 16:00, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. --76.14.122.5 (talk) 23:09, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

"Notability" tag on article from 2018

This page here [7] has a notability tag from 2018. This article appears to meet notability standards for Wikipedia. Is this the correct place raise the issue of having the notability of this article reviewed? I added to this article last year. Thanks, --Ooligan (talk) 09:55, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

While very detailed, most of the article is unsourced. The few sources there are aren't about her specifically other than The Crisis, which is only viewable in snippets, so her notability is still questionable. Clarityfiend (talk) 11:52, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Yes, I think the issue isn't notability per se, but the fact that most of the article can't be verified without better citations and so it's just unclear if she's notable or not. There is also a lot of extraneous detail in the article that doesn't seem to really help guide the reader towards her specific notable accomplishments. A better written lead paragraph might help guide the reader, in addition to cutting out a lot of detail that might be difficult to cite and doesn't feel encyclopedic (the composition of the First Concert Jazz Band or the fact that no one knew where she was during 1906). I think it's less that the article might be deleted because she's not notable and more that the article doesn't do a good job at establishing that notability according to the conventions of Wikipedia (using cited sources). Hope this is helpful. Jessamyn (my talk page) 00:51, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Draft

Hello. Can someone add this draft: Draft:Sonic the Hedgehog (film series) into Category:Paramount Pictures drafts? ZX2006XZ (talk) 14:53, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

 Done Lallint⟫⟫⟫Talk 15:24, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Recovering a lost draft page

My computer restarted automatically and I think I've lost the draft of the new Wikipedia page I was writing. When I reopened the recent tabs in my browser, the page was blank. I urgently need to recover this draft if possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Long19thCentury (talk • contribs) 17:30, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Long19thCentury Your account shows no edits other than the above; I'm afraid that what you wrote is probably lost, unfortunately. If you are writing a draft, make sure to click "Publish changes" every so often(which just means "save changes"). 331dot (talk) 17:32, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

One other thing I recommend for the future is to go to Preferences -> Editing and set, under Editor, Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary and Warn me when I leave an edit page with unsaved changes. That might save you in the future. (You should always leave an edit summary, that's why I suggest checking Prompt me... also). — rsjaffe 🗣️ 19:37, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Talk pages of shortcuts and Wikipedia talk:SOAP

Not sure of the best place to bring this up. Sort of a two part question.

Someone created a talk page of a shortcut to a section of Wikipedia policy by adding nonsense (vandalism), specifically at Wikipedia talk:PROMO. I manually reverted it here in effect blanking the page. I was wondering if that was the best action. Should I have instead replaced the vandalism with a banner or some other content that typically belongs on such a talk page? None of the other shortcuts to that section have talk pages, except Wikipedia talk:SOAP, which I was surprised to see actually redirects to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Soap Operas.

So while Wikipedia:SOAP redirects to the Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion section, Wikipedia talk:SOAP redirects to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Soap Operas. That doesn't seem right does it? --DB1729 (talk) 21:54, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@DB1729, you can place {{Db-g2}} on the talk page to have it deleted. That's the cleanest way to handle it. Regarding WP:SOAP and WT:SOAP going to different places, sometimes that's okay, but in this case, yeah, they should probably be synced. You could try nominating one or both at WP:Redirects for discussion. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 02:43, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@Sdkb: I have tagged the PROMO talk page. I will do a nomination at WP:RFD soon. Thanks! :) DB1729 (talk) 03:16, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

March 1

Cannot upload image

Hi there,

I'm trying to upload a schematic diagram to the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ribose-seq page for a school project. I made the diagram myself using Biorender,com, and I cannot understand why it is being automatically rejected. Is there a way to appeal this decision, please? I would upload the image here for context but it won't even let me do that.

Many thanks, Marie — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kmjohns (talk • contribs) 00:00, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Kmjohns Your account must be four days old with at least 10 edits, you are only a little short of each. 331dot (talk) 00:24, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

You may request it to be uploaded at files for upload. Alternatively, you can wait for autoconfirmed status. Cheers! Skarmory (talk • contribs) 02:02, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@331dot and Skarmory: My understanding is that autoconfirmed is not required to upload files on Commons.

Kmjohns, thanks for your work on the draft, and sorry to hear you're having trouble with the upload. Unfortunately, the image you're describing is probably under copyright, since even though you made it yourself, you made it out of components from Biorender.com, and that site does not appear to have released their content under a free license, so works derived from that content cannot be freely licensed, as is required here. You could try asking here if there is another rendering engine that releases their content under a free license. If you manage to find that, you can upload the work here by following the instructions, after which you'll be able to add it to the draft per the instructions here if you're using VisualEditor (or here for wiki markup). Sorry to be delivering bad news about the license hurdle, but thanks again for your work on the draft, and I hope you'll continue with your contributions. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 02:37, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@Sdkb: I would not be so sure about copyright. Biorender does claim to restrict the use of images cretaed from it (see section 3 of the terms), but many of their library assets are fairly simple geometric shapes, and (I suspect) they follow standard scientific literature conventions. As such, those assets are not protected by copyright in the US. Whether a drawing software can restrict copyright of (non-derivative) works created from it is a question for a lawyer, though. Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)} 10:37, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@Tigraan: Yeah, if all the components are below the threshold of originality, then we're good. @Kmjohns: If you can give us a link to the image hosted on another website, we can evaluate that for you. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 15:43, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@Sdkb, 331dot, and Skarmory: I just realized this user said that it's for a school project. Could one of you possibly send them to the page about editing Wikipedia for school projects? I'm having trouble finding it at the moment. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 02:47, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Do you mean WP:STUDENTS? {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 02:51, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@Sdkb: Yep that's it. Thanks! ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 03:04, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@Sdkb: That's true but Commons can only take free files. 331dot (talk) 07:48, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

not logged in

I inadvertently didn't log in for this edit (Redacted). Could an administrator fix it and remove associated sensitive info there, here and in my contribution history? Bob K31416 (talk) 02:35, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@Bob K31416, accidental logged out edits are oversightable. You can make a request at WP:Requests for oversight. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 02:39, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Draft Review

For the past few months I have been interviewing an old Exxon executive from my hometown and just made a Wikipedia page about him… I submitted it for review but would love any feedback on the page if anyone has a sec. This is my first page made so it might be some errors/mistakes but would love feedback or a review! — Preceding unsigned comment added by John4243 (talk • contribs) 07:05, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

The article is Draft:Edwin J. Hess and it was reviewed and turned down on 11 January 2022. IMHO it's not too bad but there could be more reliable secondary sourcing.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 07:31, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

John, the problem is that information derived from interviews like that has no place in Wikipedia, as it is not coming from what we deem a reliable source. What we look for here, is not what the subject has said, to you or even to some professional journalist. What we need is information from places like Barron's and Wired and The New York Times. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:05, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Help desk

What is help desk for? 2001:44B8:41C6:F700:CDB1:E760:9B90:B9E9 (talk) 10:54, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

It is for asking questions, just as you have done here; however, please read the message right at the top of the page for clarification as to its remit. I.e. only questions about how to use or edit Wikipedia. If you are looking for general questions try WP:RD or use the search box. Eagleash (talk) 12:04, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

I used to think it's already answered in the very first line of the page.... :) --CiaPan (talk) 13:29, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Coming back and lost

I have created dozens of articles for WP in the past, but not the last couple of years. Now I don't know whether I have gone blinder or stupider, but I can no longer find how to create a new article. Is it that the rules have changed while I was out, or what? Finally I went via the beginner route, and managed to submit the article, only to be told that it might be months etc...

Now, the article in question is just a redirect from PRIZM to South African National Antarctic Programme, and waiting that long for a redir is ridiculous; am I missing something, like some obvious entry point for seasoned authors/editors, or what?

As for any doubts as to whether the redir is worthwhile, I created it because I struggled to find any reference in context, and the research programme is cutting-edge cosmology, so I make no apology for making it easier to find.

Thanks for any help JonRichfield (talk) 12:22, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@JonRchfield: Hello, Typically, redirects do not require submission via the AfC process but can / should be requested via WP:AFC/R. As the term is covered in the target page I have created the redirect. For future reference you can create a draft article via WP:WIZ which is probably the most convenient for new (or returning users, who are a bit 'rusty') or WP:AFC. When completed a draft can be moved to main or you can create in main assuming you are WP:AUTOCONFIRMED. Eagleash (talk) 13:03, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

I have changed PRIZM to redirect to the existing disambiguation page Prizm which already lists South African National Antarctic Programme. Several of the entries are sometimes written in all caps. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:38, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Can somebody make a hood olympics article?

On the Milk crate challenge article it says hood olympics, but the link doesn't work. And I don't know what it means. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.244.131.228 (talk) 13:58, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

American term. Short for neighbourhood. - X201 (talk) 14:11, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Really it's more American slang. I don't usually see Americans refer to a neighborhood as a "hood" outside of using it as slang. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:15, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

"Hood" is more than just a slang term for neighborhood though. It carries implicit associations with inner cities, poverty, race, and crime; but also pride, community, and resiliency in the face of adversity. I think an article theoretically could be written on hood culture, if someone was so inclined. That said, "hood olympics" is not a thing.~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 14:44, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

It sounds like somebody making a joke about what we do in the 'hood. I will assume good faith and hope that there was no racism intended on the part of the person making the joke. But like the unicorn said, that's not a thing. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:11, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia needs this article

The article we need is: Propaganda during 2022 Ukrainian War. There has been a lot of propaganda in the news- especially in the Ukraine official twitter account. KaptianKharisma (talk) 17:41, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a newspaper; we don't necessarily have articles about stuff happening in the past couple of days, until they are written about by reliable sources. And I'm concerned that you are singling out one particular source for your assertions. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:44, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@KaptianKharisma: Could this information (cited with reliable sources) be added to a section of 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, until it gets large enough to warrant its own article? GoingBatty (talk) 18:16, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@GoingBatty: I'm sure propaganda during this event has enough reliable sources, I don't know about having a article. KaptianKharisma (talk) 18:28, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@KaptianKharisma: Well if you can find 3 reliable sources that talk about the propaganda then I think it should be fine to add to the article on Russia's invasion on Ukraine. But please, read WP:RS first. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 18:35, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Plot Summary - Fear the Walking Dead

Hi there,

I recently wrote a plot summary for episode 7 of series 7 of Fear the Walking Dead. I viewed the website today and found that my writing had been deleted. I hadn't written anything offensive, I wrote a summary of what happened in the episode while I was watching it. Can you please tell me why my plot summary has been deleted while all the others are still showing?

Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C5:2090:BD01:1190:28D8:62AF:CACD (talk) 17:40, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi there! If you go to Fear the Walking Dead (season 7) and click on the "View history" tab, you can see that it was deleted in this edit by Tobi999tomas, who stated "This is ridicilously long." Per the Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle, feel free to have a discussion about this at the article's talk page: Talk:Fear the Walking Dead (season 7). GoingBatty (talk) 18:23, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

If Wikimedia Foundation is non profit organization, then how it generate revenue?

From [[Wikimedia Foundation

]], it says:It was established in 2003 by Jimmy Wales as a way to fund Wikipedia and its sibling projects through non-profit

Same page also mentioned this line: ...annual revenues in excess of US$150 million. Rizosome (talk) 18:44, 1 March 2022 (UTC)