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    December 7

    Editing a page

    On the Page of Isaac Abarbanel it says his burial sight is unknown. That is NOT TRUE. I visited is burial site and I have a photograph of the grave. That is my reference. I am an Abarbanel descendant. I visited his gravesite in 2014 accompanied by the local rabbi. I edited this page and you deleted it because of my source. How can this be remedied? I can submit the photo. Abarbaneledit (talk) 02:46, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    As a matter of principle, we insist on information coming from published sources, not the assertion of some random person on the internet. Your assertion was not backed by any published source(s). --Orange Mike | Talk 03:30, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Abarbaneledit: However, by convention we consider a gravestone (or other written monument in a public place) to be "published". Therefore you can upload your picture to commons and add it to the article. Go to Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard to see how to upload the picture to commons. As part of the upload process, please be meticulous about the date, time, and location when when you took the picture: This information must be sufficient to allow another interested party to find the grave. I personally prefer to use the precise GPS co-ordinates. -Arch dude (talk) 03:48, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I thought that information engraved on a gravestone is indeed "published" but is not considered "reliable" for use on Wikipedia. First, in most cases there is no way to tell whether the gravestone refers to the subject or to another person with the same name, and second, there is in general no fact-checking done on gravestone inscriptions. (I know that the text inscribed on my mother's gravestone is just whatever I wrote on the cemetery's form, which was accepted with no fact-checking.) For example, Find a Grave is not considered a reliable source, even though most Find a Grave entries include a photo of the gravestone. A photo of a gravestone could be evidence that the gravestone exists, but probably not much more than that. CodeTalker (talk) 21:05, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    anonymous revert without reason?

    If someone makes a (bad) revert to an edit, but does so anonymously and with no reason given, am I supposed to engage them on the talk page even if they would not see it unless then have a log-in with a watch page? It concerns this revert. tahc chat 03:18, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    @Tahc: engage on the article's talk page. Depending on the situation, you may need to revert their revert with a comment to look at the talk page, but be careful of the "three revert" rule (WP:3RR). If you are using valid edit summaries and making an effort on the talk page while the anonymous editor is reverting but not responding, come back here and maybe someone can give you better advice. -Arch dude (talk) 03:38, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Tahc, you can do what I did:
    • assess the edit: it was both against the year-linking policy and ridiculous
    • assess their talk page: a long tale of reversions and ignored warnings
    • fearlessly click the red "Vandalism" link on the diff page
    • leave a final warning on IP user's talk page
    When the unconstructive, WP:NOTHERE editing is this bad, there's no need to hesitate. Quisqualis (talk) 06:11, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Quisqualis: what red "Vandalism" link on the diff page? Sounds useful, but I can't see it. Bazza (talk) 09:57, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Quisqualis It's actually on the article's history page. David10244 (talk) 11:55, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Twitter Files

    Do not reply to posts that are intentionally written to be inflammatory. The article in question is at Articles for deletion anyhow. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 14:14, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

    As a long time user and supporter (generally $100/year), I am utterly disgusted by your current article regarding Elon Musk’s disclosure of files documenting the decision to suppress the contents of the Hunter Biden lap top. Truly disappointed and disgusted. Shame on you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7080:A33C:5366:F5A5:E047:A89A:AD07 (talk) 03:45, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    You should note that the people who write the articles aren't receiving any money. —Lights and freedom (talk ~ contribs) 03:50, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Where can I post

    I just finished a fairly in-depth copy-edit of Kalighat painting. I left the references tag up because I suspect there may be good sources in languages I do not speak, and while there are 15 sources the article is quite long, and perhaps relies rather heavily on long lyrical quotes. OTOH two of the authors have an Wikidata entry but no Wikipedia article, so there may be a project there for someone. I was wondering if you could suggest a place to list it. I was looking for, but did not find, a portal for Bengali art, for example. I think that there is the making of a Good Article, but while I enjoyed working on it, I already.have a lot of projects, and I think another better-qualified editor probably could be found for this one? Any suggestions? Elinruby (talk) 04:58, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    @Elinruby There is a currently active Project at WP:INWB where they have the ambition to make Culture of Bengal a featured article. There ought to be editors who you could reach via one of the Project Talk Pages. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:52, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    great suggestion, thanks Elinruby (talk) 11:58, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Change profine picture of the page Boudewijn Röell

    https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boudewijn_R%C3%B6ell

    Can the profile picture please be removed or changed? I`ve tried to do it many times myself but i cant get it changed.

    Please help, Thanks in advance. Wfbroell (talk) 09:14, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Wfbroell This is the English Wikipedia, we cannot help you with any issues on another language Wikipedia, which is a separate project. 331dot (talk) 09:15, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    ...that being said, the OP managed to do it about one hour after asking. TigraanClick here for my talk page ("private" contact) 09:43, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    But they used wrong code. I have fixed it.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 15:47, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    My details was mixed with others details

    My name is K V Satyanarayana Kuchipudi Dancer, my details in Wikipedia was mixed with other person with same name k v satyanarayana. In on that i was dead. Some people miss leading. This is very sad. please check and correct this.


    Karothi Venkata Satyanarayana, better known as K. V. Satyanarayana is a Kuchipudi dancer, choreographer, dance director and composer in India. Missing: Died ‎| Must include: Died KALARATNA DR.K.V.SATYANARAYANA (talk) 11:25, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    My name is K V Satyanarayana Kuchipudi Dancer, my details in Wikipedia was mixed with other person with same name k v satyanarayana. In on that i was dead. Some people miss leading. This is very sad. please check and correct this.


    Karothi Venkata Satyanarayana, better known as K. V. Satyanarayana is a Kuchipudi dancer, choreographer, dance director and composer in India. Missing: Died ‎| Must include: Died KALARATNA DR.K.V.SATYANARAYANA (talk) 11:26, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

     Courtesy link: K. V. Satyanarayana   Maproom (talk) 11:54, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @KALARATNA DR.K.V.SATYANARAYANA As far as I can tell from Wikipedia's article, information here is accurate and sourced. It does not contain birth or death dates. What you are seeing as a death date is something that Google's knowledge panel has (mis)interpreted. Wikipedia has no control over Google or other search engines and you should take up your concerns with them. There is a "feedback" link within Google that you could try. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:22, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Approval of a new article

    Good afternoon!

    My name is Elene, I am logged in es elenesali in Wikipedia.

    I created an article about Legal Design, it is now in moderation as far as I understand.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Legal_Design

    Could you please tell me how long does it take for an article to be uploaded fulfully?

    When the word draft will no longer be next to the name of the article?

    I will be waiting for your response

    Kind regards,

    Elene Kalandiia Elenesali (talk) 11:56, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Elenesali: it can take months for a draft to be reviewed. When a reviewer decides to take it on, they will either "move it to mainspace" and remove "Draft" from the title, or decline it, explaining how it does not meet Wikipedia's standards. (I observe that the opening section of the draft uses a lot of jargon, making it hard to understand.) Maproom (talk) 12:07, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Your draft Draft:Legal Design hasn't actually been submitted for review? Theroadislong (talk) 12:12, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Your draft hasn't been submitted for review. Unless it's submitted, it will never be reviewed. If you were to submit it now and I were to review it, I'd fail it. Entire sections are virtually or completely unreferenced. And it contains material such as Legal design is an interdisciplinary approach based on human-centricity applied in legal activity [...] I don't know what this means, and the thought occurs to me that perhaps it doesn't really mean anything. (What are the alternatives to being based on human-centricity? Etc.) If it does mean something, then this something needs to be expressed more clearly. -- Hoary (talk) 13:18, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you very much for your response, I appreciate it a lot. I will try to fix it! Elenesali (talk) 13:52, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Elenesali I see that the draft was submitted for review, and the "human-centricity" thing is still there. I don't understand that either; it sounds a lot like marketing-speak. Also, you could fix the grammar issues while you wait for the review. David10244 (talk) 05:51, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Help Needed to Retrieve Deleted Page

    Hi, I would like to know how to retrieve the deleted wiki page. I want to edit the page according to the guideline provided Adaline Lefe (talk) 13:41, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Instructions for retrieving deleted pages are at WP:REFUND. --Jayron32 14:12, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I guess this is about Draft:Adventrum, speedy deleted 29th November as blatant promotion by Bbb23. As a non-admin I cannot access the deleted revisions to see how bad it was or how much can be salvaged, however, see Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to provide copies of deleted articles for a list of people who might email the draft text to you (to my knowledge requests for G11 deletions rarely recive anything but a rubber-stamp decline at WP:REFUND) Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 14:23, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Adaline Lefe - If you intend on working on the deleted draft, please be aware of policies such as Conflict of interest which require you to disclose if you're being paid by your employer to write an article. I see that you have disclosed this on your user page. Remember that statements in an article should be cited to reliable, secondary sources (with few exceptions). Focus on the quality of sources: WP:NCORP is a stricter guideline then for non-company topics. casualdejekyll 14:35, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Adaline Lefe I have taken a look at the deleted draft and, it's bad. Frankly, I don't think there is much in it that is salvageable as a Wikipedia article. However, I would be willing to restore it if you want to work on it; just know that there is virtually nothing there that is acceptible on Wikipedia. If you want it for some purpose other than hoping to create a Wikipedia article, then I can e-mail you the text. Let me know which you would prefer. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 14:56, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    How do I connect this routemap?

    Hi all, don't think the Template:Routemap talk section is active enough to warrant posting there, so I'll post here instead:

    How the hell do I connect this bus routemap?

    This is my first time making a routemap, so bear with me if I'm doing this horribly wrong. Its taken me about an hour to figure out how to merge the lines back together after Bentley, and that involved flicking through numerous other bus and/or rail templates, but now I just need to... well, turn the splitting point upside down, and I'll be set. What part of Template:Routemap or Template:BS-map (which I'm trying my best to avoid seeing as how its being depreciated) will, no pun intended, put me on the right track? Hullian111 (talk) 16:14, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

     Done, I hope, in the version alongside. Maproom (talk) 16:37, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    God, was it really that simple? Thanks, you're a lifesaver. Hullian111 (talk) 16:44, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Deletions of Organizational pages in javascript location?

    I've found a user 19Knights75 who has created a copy of the page about that organization in the *strangest* place. User:19Knights75/vector.js. Is *that* considered part of the sandbox or not? I'd appreciate someone taking a look at the user and seeing whether the user would count as not a personal account or if other appropriate actions could be taken. Naraht (talk) 17:02, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    I would simply ignore it. Isn't hurting anyone. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 18:21, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Naraht, @Sungodtemple A "page" inside a vector.js page? It might not be hurting anything, but you could also argue that user pages that look like article drafts are also not "hurting anything". We routinely delete those. This seems like a case of "misusing Wikipedia as a web host", or something. It's certainly weird.
    Does anyone else want to comment? David10244 (talk) 05:59, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Fair point. I tagged under WP:U5. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 13:59, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks. David10244 (talk) 11:56, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Event Outreach Dashboard

    Hi, I would like to find out if there have been any conversations or discussions held about the community outreach dashboard concerning its high data collection and matrix on many campaign topics instead of focusing on the specifics. If there have been any discussions in a wiki thread or a forum concerning it's resolution kindly send me a link. Thanks Jwale2 (talk) 18:45, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    6666 ranch

    Quarter Horse must be capitalized 96.89.198.225 (talk) 21:26, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

     Not done This is not the right space to ask for edit requests. Additionally, the article you mentioned is not protected. Do it yourself. — B. L. I. R. 21:29, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    If you wish to make such requests for a change to be implemented make an edit request on the articles talk page and then if you choose you can also make a request here. StarryNightSky11 ☎ 01:03, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Logo of a software application

    Hi, I'm writing a page about a software application and I want to show its logo. If I uploaded it on commons.wikimedia.org, what are the right license to use? Mabdelaal86 (talk) 22:01, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    @Mabdelaal86 In short, we don't upload logos on Commons since Commons don't accept non-free pics. You upload it to WP, see WP:FUW. Choose "Upload a non-free file", then "This is a copyrighted, non-free work, but I believe it is Fair Use." then "This is a logo of an organization, company, brand, etc."
    However, you can't put non-free pics in drafts, so you do this first when your draft has been moved to article-space. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:32, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Just going to clarify that logos can be uploaded to Commons as long as it can be shown that either (1) the logo is too simple to be considered eligible for copyright protection or (2) the logo has been released by it's copyright holders under one of the free-licenses that Commons accepts. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:29, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    December 8

    Link to another page

    I am trying to add a link to the name Maya Wiley from a page of people with that surname to an existing page for Maya Wiley. Mousing over the link shows a 'page does not exit' error, but it does.

    On the Wiley disambiguation page there is a link to that same page that works. (Also, I created a sandbox link to Maya Wiley that works.)

    Here's what I wrote which does not work, followed by the other reference that does.

    • Maya Wylie, (born 1964) American lawyer, professor, and civil rights activist

    Maya Wiley, American civil rights activist and lawyer, 2021 mayoral candidate for New York City

    I don't know why my link to Maya Wylie's page does not work. Cuchulain9 (talk) 02:03, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi Cuchulain9. Please check the spelling of the link you're trying to add because "Wylie" and "Wiley" are not spelt the same. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:33, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, that would explain a lot. I'm quite familiar with her and spelled it right in the sandbox as well, which explains why it worked there! Don't know the reason for the 'thinko'. Thx. Cuchulain9 (talk) 05:00, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    "Thinko". Good one, I might steal that! David10244 (talk) 11:58, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Thinko was both an enwiki article and at wikt:thinko starting in 2005. The article was deleted via WP:PROD in 2007 and replaced by a redirect to typographical error. DMacks (talk) 12:14, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    P.s. text review/copy editing was a significant component of work I used to do in environmental planning. I swear I was good at it; but perhaps it is good I retired :). Cuchulain9 (talk) 20:17, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Article Publish

    https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Oconto

    I created this page in Turkish Vikipedi. Can I carry it to the wikipedia Canada? DidemAkd (talk) 04:06, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi DidemAkd. I don't think there's a Wikipedia Canada so perhaps you mean English Wikipedia. Articles existing on other language (non-English) Wikipedias can be translated into English for English Wikipedia as explained in Wikipedia:Translation, but you need to make sure that the subject of the article meets relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines; in other words, an article exisiting on Turkish Wikipedia doesn't automatically mean the same article should also exist on English Wikipedia as explained here. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:15, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    And now the article doesn't exist on trwiki either (speedy-deleted as advertising). DMacks (talk) 12:17, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Isaac Abarbanel page

    I tried 4 times to allow you to change a fact on this page. It says his grave is unknown. IT IS NOT UNKNOWN. In 2014 I visited it in the Jewish cemetery in Padua, Italy. I sent a photo. You make it impossible to change this one thing. My iPhone photo is not copyrighted. I gave full permission for you to use it. My Abarbanel relatives have tried to get me to change this page for years. I finally tried to. I now give up. This is ridiculous that it is so complicated. The photo clearly shows the graves. Abarbaneledit (talk) 05:24, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    The Isaac Abarbanel article is not very good (lacks sourcing), but if his grave is known according to modern historians, this will be noted in some sort of WP:RS, like scholarly literature (history books etc). So, what have you got? You saying "I have a picture of his grave I took" isn't good enough in the WP-context, see WP:ISAWIT. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:36, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, Abarbaneledit. There have likely been dozens or hundreds of people named Isaac Abarbanel throughout history, most of them completely obscure. How can anyone know for sure that your photo is of the grave of this specific Isaac Abarbanel? That is why we require a reference to a published reliable source. For example, my grandfather was named James Heaphy, my father was named James Heaphy, I am named James Heaphy and my son is named James Heaphy. And now that the internet has come along, I have learned that there are many other James Heaphys from New York to New Zealand and points in between. I know that there were two people with identical names working in very similar fields in the San Francisco Bay Area in the early 20th century, and that they died within a few days of each other. Even local journalists got confused. We need to be cautious. Cullen328 (talk) 08:01, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    According to Encyclopaedia Judaica [2] his grave is unknown, but things may have happened since that was written. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:18, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I'd say that the photo of the plaque clearly shows that the location of his remains is unknown:

    I resti mortali sepolti nel cimitero di Borgomagno 1450-1529 qui furono translati nel 1955. E' tradizione che tra queste ossa riposino quelle di Don Itzchak Abrabanel e di Yehuda' Minz.

    Per Google Translate:

    The mortal remains buried in the Borgomagno cemetery 1450-1529 were translated here in 1955. It is a tradition that among these bones rest those of Don Itzchak Abrabanel and Yehuda' Minz.

    So his remains may be buried there — we just don't know for certain. —Wasell(T) 🌻🇺🇦 09:44, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    So edited:[3] Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:09, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Ruby villarubia sign in my account

    But I can't sign in because how many times they trick me and change my chat or txt and I send wrong I just want to make sure that the application form is real plz reply me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.166.165.91 (talk) 06:35, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, IP editor. If you truly believe that you are being "tricked", then do not log in. There is no official Wikipedia chat or text although there are unofficial forums on IRC and Facebook and maybe more places. But they have no impact on logging in. So. log in if you want to and do not log in if you don't want to. The choice is yours. We cannot function as your internet security expert, as we do not know your system configuration, your browsing history or your personal level of expertise. Good luck. Cullen328 (talk) 08:36, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Wait Wikipedia has a forum on Facebook? ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 20:46, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Captcha

    How do I solve captchas? 10:41, 8 December 2022 (UTC)~South mall city10:41, 8 December 2022 (UTC)~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Southmallcity (talk • contribs)

    @Southmallcity: Please see Special:Captcha. Specifically, it says "on Wikipedia you may be asked to fill in a CAPTCHA when adding new web links to a page, when you attempt to create an account, or when you enter your password incorrectly. Unfortunately, this may inconvenience users with limited vision or using text-based or speech-based browsers. At the moment we do not have an audio alternative available." — B. L. I. R. 10:44, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Southmallcity:, can you explain in detail what difficulty you are finding? There is a common error (of clicking the wrong button) that some people make (including myself at one time), but this may be totally unrelated to your problem, so I won't elaborate at this point. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.213.188.15 (talk) 07:42, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Rage of Rhino Bonus

    I had just started a bonus at 7,500 for 20 spins when the connection was lost. I was able to go right back in but I was not put back into the bonus. In fact it put me with very few coins. How do I get this back. I'm not connected to Face Book. Thank you Barbara Neal <redacted> 2001:5B0:2B48:1108:C09B:C224:4BA6:A0CC (talk) 10:50, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    As it says at the top of this page, "The Wikipedia help desk is a place where you can ask questions about how to use or edit Wikipedia." If you are having problems with some other software or website, you need to ask there. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:54, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @David Biddulph We don't get bonus spins on Wikipedia? So I have been wasting all this effort... David10244 (talk) 06:06, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Scientific notation with the {Convert} template

    I want to use scientific notation on a large number where the {Convert} template is used to also convert the number to its value in alternative units.

    Have looked at Help:Convert. Is not explained there. Only the suggestion that the |abbr=unit parm should be used when using scientific notation is mentioned there.

    So where is the HELP for the Convert template to use scientific notation. I've not been able to find it. Cheers. N2e (talk) 13:47, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Have you looked at Template:Convert#Scientific notation: 1.23 × 10−14? - David Biddulph (talk) 13:53, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    But looking at that again & trying it out in my sandbox, it doesn't seem to do what it says. On a quick check it seems to be numbers >= 10e10 that get converted, not numbers >= 1000. You may wish to ask at Template talk:Convert. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:06, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you very much for your help David Biddulph! No, I had not yet looked at Template:Convert#Scientific notation: 1.23 × 10−14. Did not know that page existed. Sounds like that link should definitely be added to the Help:Convert to help others in the future. N2e (talk) 15:46, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    It's linked from the second word of the help page, where it says "Template {{convert}} is used ..." - David Biddulph (talk) 15:51, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Time since last edit

    I am patrolling Special:NewPagesFeed (not as NPP). Often time I encounter a half-finished article and want to see time since the last edit to determine whether to move to draft, A1, etc. Is there a gadget to do this? Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 19:41, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Country name + flag for a 'country' without an ISO code

    For getting the name of a country plus its flag in front, you use th ISO thre-letter code in braces, e.g. {{USA}} ->  United States. But how about 'half-countries' without an ISO code? Question is motivated by Country_codes:_A #Alderney and some others in this overview. --KnightMove (talk) 19:55, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    In what context would you be using this? --Jayron32 19:58, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, I've never seen the use of flags in section headers; MOS:FLAG doesn't indicate that as an appropriate use. --Jayron32 20:01, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, most of the headlines on most pages in this overview (e.g. Country codes: C) do that already. So it would be appropriate to change this to non-flag? --KnightMove (talk) 07:16, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't know what the best move is. You do what you want. I'm just saying I've never seen that before. --Jayron32 12:33, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    CREATION OF NEW ARTICLE CHALLED CHAPLAIN NIELSEN

    Good morning!

    We want more informations about how to create a new article concerning the real-life story of Professor Chaplain Nielsen from South America.

    We are always available for any further details.

    Hostexas Team

    Official Website: www.hostexas.org 177.69.238.153 (talk) 20:35, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello. Please refrain from having multiple users under one account, it is against Wikipedia's policies. Also, if you have any conflict of interest, please declare that on your user page. Club On a Sub 20 (talk) 20:42, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I'd start by reading Wikipedia:Notability (people). From a quick online search, I can't see any obvious evidence that Chaplain Nielsen has been the subject of the sort of significant coverage in independent published reliable sources necessary to meet our criteria. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:43, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Please note that trying to create an article before you have spent time learning how Wikipedia works and what its requirements are is often frustrating and miserable. We delete hundreds of articles and drafts a day, many of them by people who have started before they are ready. And if you are connected with the subject (so you have a conflict of interest) it is even harder, as you will need to forget everything you know about the person - and, especially, forget your opinions about them - and write based only on what the independent sources that you have found say about the person. Please read your first article, as well as about notability. ColinFine (talk) 22:05, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Donation Begging

    I don't have any money. why does Wikipedia keep nagging me about donations? 184.13.109.126 (talk) 23:42, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    If you create an account, you can disable the fundraising banners. For further questions etc please email donate(@)wikimedia.org. RudolfRed (talk) 00:03, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Wikipedia does not know the financial status of the person sitting at the computer/holding the device, or that the person has seen a donation request. Please create an accound and disable the banners in its preferences. 331dot (talk) 09:38, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Welcome and thank you for your question about donations! To hide the fundraising banners, you can create an account and uncheck Preferences → Banners → Empty Fundraising. The Wikimedia Foundation does not track the identity of IP addresses, so it doesn't know your age, income level or whether you donated in the past.
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    December 9

    Admin nomination

    I have nominated myself for adminship but the request isn't displayed on the RFA page could someone check the source code or inform me of what to change so it is viewable there please? StarryNightSky11 ☎ 00:43, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    StarryNightSky11 I see no edits by you to create an RFA nomination, so whatever you did was not published. I would advise you against nominating yourself, however, as the odds of success for you are very low. You don't have the edit history required, and you haven't demonstrated a need for the tools. 331dot (talk) 00:48, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    331dot, [4].
    StarryNightSky11, I have to second 331dot's advice. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:53, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I would echo 331dot's comment. You should not go through with an RfA at this time. WP:ORCP is open to you if you want feedback on your 'readiness'; personally, my impressions is that an editor with fewer than 10,000 edits would have to have an extraordinary track record, and a very expressed need for the tools, to be accepted by the community. Best Girth Summit (blether) 00:58, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/StarryNightSky11 has been closed. DMacks (talk) 18:06, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    AFM & SAG-AFTRA Intelectual Property Right Distribution Fund

    Why is there no page for the AFM & SAG-AFTRA Intelectual Property Rights Distribution Fund aka AFM & SAG-AFTRA Fund? Everytime I see AFM & SAG-AFTRA Fund you guys have a link going to either one of the unions, AFM or SAG-AFTRA. The AFM & SAG-AFTRA Fund is a separate intity from those two unions and their website is https://www.afmsagaftrafund.org/. Can someone look into this?

    SidSyd (talk) 00:59, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    @SidSyd:Wikipedia editors are volunteers, and each of us does whatever tasks we wish to do, with almost no co-ordination and with no central planning. There are no "you guys" to respond to you. There are about 100,000 active editors in any given 30-day window, and perhaps 50 of them (us) are active on the help desk. If you think an article is needed you have as much right and responsibility to create that article as any of the other 100,000 active editors. Please look at WP:YFA to see how to proceed. -Arch dude (talk) 03:06, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    SAG-AFTRA headquarters
    Hello, SidSyd. I am a Northern California editor who was in Southern California in 2015 to visit with a Wikipedia editor from Iceland (long story). While there, I happened to take a photo of SAG-AFTRA headquarters. So, I have paid a little bit of attention to this union over the years but I am far from an expert. The fact of the matter is that you are probably the Wikipedia editor most interested in the "AFM & SAG-AFTRA Intellectual Property Rights Distribution Fund". Accordingly, if you think that there should be an article about this topic, it is incumbent on you to write the article. I will be happy to offer advice but you will need to do the heavy lifting. Cullen328 (talk) 07:01, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    The more concise answer is that nobody has yet volunteered to write that article. Are you up for it? Cullen328 (talk) 07:14, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Fair use images

    Hi, Sri Lanka does not have the Freedom of panorama. It would be a shame if many landmarks deprived of an identifiable image. So can fair use images be used instead in such articles? Regards. Chanaka L (talk) 08:56, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    @chanakal: it would need to meet the 10 criteria for non-free images. lettherebedarklight晚安 10:39, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Lettherebedarklight: I have uploaded a dozen or so fair use company logos before, so I am aware of those criteria. I wanna know whether that works for panoramas as well? Cheers. Chanaka L (talk) 14:30, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    The very first of the criteria you were pointed to above, is "Non-free content is used only where no free equivalent is available, or could be created" Almost all panoramas can be created, by visiting the place and taking it yourself, so they fall at the first. - Please also see Wikipedia:Freedom of panorama which explains that (in most circumstances) we are covered by US law, not local law. [[Arjayay (talk) 14:45, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Chanakal To be specific, that means that the Sri Lankan images have to be uploaded to the English Wikipedia using the {{FoP-USonly}} template but they do not have to meet the criteria for non-free images. However, unlike logos you may have uploaded in the past, you must own the copyright, which in practice usually means you took the picture yourself. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:18, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Arjayay: Thanks for the answer. @Michael D. Turnbull: Thanks, your reply answered my question. So Flickr photos with creative commons licence won't work for the freedom of panorama exception, correct? Uploaders themself should possess the copyright. Cheers, Chanaka L (talk) 03:09, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    TROOS

    There are no such thing ass TREWS in fact the term TREWS is a tad insulting to the originators - by all mean offer TREWS as an explanation for sounding but please stop the corruption of. TROOS but please remove this TREWs as there is no such word. 2A00:23C8:691C:3701:557C:BD80:7416:C4BC (talk) 12:30, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    @2A00:23C8:691C:3701:557C:BD80:7416:C4BC, what is this about? There doesn't appear to be any article at Troos or Trews that describes an initialism/acronym. Do you have a question about reading or editing Wikipedia? casualdejekyll 13:13, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    NPROF

    Longtime editor here, but need help evaluating WP:NPROF. What's the best way of soliciting assistance to gauge an academic's notability? I'm not very experienced in this particular area. I tried an RfC but that was shut down immediately.

    Article link: Linda Gerdner

    --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 13:29, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Well it's a bit of a moot point for this article now, since it's been deleted. However, just as a general question, I'd still like to know what's the best way to find help with WP:NPROF issues. Thanks. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 18:45, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Drm310 you could ask at WP:HED, or WP:WIR for female academics, but I would suggest attempting your own review to see whether the subject is at least possibly notable first. TSventon (talk) 18:58, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks TSventon, much appreciated. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 19:10, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    false information

    Hi there I am the subject of a wikipedia page which is full of false information and I believe someone is deliberately changing it. Could you help? I've tried to change some of it but it has reverted / been changed again to show more false information. Most of the work it says I have done isn't true, neither is my place of birth. I'd be happy if the page was removed completely Here is the link. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Foster_(writer) Many thanks, Jon foster Fosterjr (talk) 16:00, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    I have reverted the vandalism & warned the vandal. Thank you for letting us know. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:04, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    donations

    I don't want to use any CC to donate. Is there a way to donate with a old-fashion check?```` Requestinghelp (talk) 16:04, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi there, I assume you're referring to donating to the Wikimedia Foundation. In that case, info can be found here. Cheers! DonIago (talk) 16:10, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Make a redirect article

    So, I want to make a redirt article from "Saint Jadwiga" and "Jadwiga the Saint" to "Jadwiga of Poland," yet when I look up how to make a redirect article, part of the article mentioned in the steps does not appear. I was wondering if anyone knew a better way to. NicoTheBold (talk) 16:38, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Which instructions are you reading? WP:Redirect and/or Help:Redirect? What are you not seeing? I can't see any sign of failed attempts. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:47, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Nevermind. The problem was solved. NicoTheBold (talk) 16:56, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Indian or Native American or First Nation?

    I am working on an article called United States Government Indian Trading Factories, 1795-1822.

    What term for Indian is proper and politically correct to use. Creuzbourg (talk) 17:03, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, Creuzbourg. I suggest that you read Native American name controversy. This is an unresolved issue. First Nations is a term associated with Canada. Since you are writing about events in the United States 200 years ago, I suggest that you use the common term of that era, which was Indian, perhaps with a clarifying note linking to Native Americans in the United States. The existence of the National Congress of American Indians indicates that the term Indian in this context is not defunct. Cullen328 (talk) 17:28, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Creuzbourg If you're writing for Wikipedia, then you need to bear in mind WP:COMMONALITY: as a non American-English speaker, I would understand "Native American" to mean what I think you're intending. "Indian" is ambiguous for me, even if not as "politically incorrect" as it might be elsewhere; and "First Nation" is not a term seen much here. Native Americans in the United States seems to agree and gives links to other articles on the same subject. Bazza (talk) 17:30, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Generally, for the indigenous people of what later became the lower 48 states, the general consensus is that either "Native American" or "American Indian" is appropriate when speaking of such people in a general context, while noting the specific people group or nation (such as Wampanoag or Navajo) may be more appropriate when referring to a specific person. In general it is better to use "American Indian" than just "Indian", which in most of the world means someone from India, but there is often no preference for between either "Native American" or "American Indian" as long as one is consistent within the same article. --Jayron32 17:52, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikitionary Question

    Hello. I recently created a page for the etymology of the Persian word "رای." I was trying to enter my citations but i got an error stating that I was spamming. The error also said that I could get my account banned, which i obviously do not want. Could somebody elaborate why this is? or possibly enter the citation for me? this is the citation I would like to enter:

    Qaemmaqami, A. R., & Khatebey, A. (2013, July 9). رای و رأی ([New Persian] rāy and [arabic] ra'y). Academia.edu. Retrieved December 9, 2022, from https://www.academia.edu/3992194/%D8%B1%D8%A7%DB%8C_%D9%88_%D8%B1%D8%A3%DB%8C_New_Persian_r%C4%81y_and_Arabic_ra_y_

    This is the link to the page: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D8%B1%D8%A7%DB%8C

    There is also a Persian word "رای" of Arabic origin, however the words are distinct in their etymology and pronunciation. Maybe Wikitionary thought I was creating another page for a word that already has a page? I am very confused and would greatly appreciate some assistance. MarkParker1221 (talk) 18:57, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    @MarkParker1221, this is the help desk for English Wikipedia, not Wiktionary. There's a list of various discussion forums at Wiktionary here. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 19:10, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I see, thank you very much. MarkParker1221 (talk) 20:39, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Looking for a guide

    Hi there, I'm new to editing Wiki pages and would like to speak with someone who's done this. I've been hired to update a page of a business and I need to know how to make sure that the updates don't break the rules. DebSchell (talk) 19:36, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    The first thing you need to do is to read about conflict of interest and to make the mandatory declaration of paid editing. One might wonder why the client has hired someone who doesn't know how to do the job. - David Biddulph (talk) 19:41, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, DebSchell. I'm afraid you are rather in the position of somebody who has been hired to build a building for a client without having any knowledge of local building regulations (Wikipedia's policies) or of whether the site has been surveyed and found suitable for building on (whether the business meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability - most businesses don't). Further, it is very likely that the building they want you to build is one that it is not possible to build here - one that they own and control, and can use for their own purposes.
    Once you have made the mandatory declaration, I suggest you study NCORP, Your first article, Neutral point of view, and An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. You might also like to browse through Special:log/delete and see how many articles we delete, mostly because they were created by editors insufficiently experienced to understand the requirements. Looking at that page just now I see fifty deletions in the last three quarters of an hour, of which I think four were drafts about organizations and companies.
    If this sounds discouraging: I'm afraid it is meant to. You are most welcome to be a Wikipedia editor. But creating a new article is much harder than people think, and doing so with a conflict of interest is harder still. ColinFine (talk) 23:19, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    David Biddulph, ColinFine: DebSchell says she's been hired to update the page, not to create it. DebSchell: the easiest and least troublesome way for you to get the article updated is to go to the article's talk page, and detail the changes you want made, listing a source for each change to confirm that it's correct. It's probably best to start by specifying just one change (with its source) so you get a feel for how this procedure works. If you jump straight in by requesting a rewrite of the whole article or a long list of changes, your request is likely to be rejected or ignored. Maproom (talk) 08:00, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    My apologies, DebSchell - I missed that you were talking about updating a page, not creating one (Thank you Maproom). So not all I said is relevant to you - but some still is. In particular, that the article will not necessarily say what your clients want it to say. You are welcome to make edit requests, but if the editor who happens to consider the request regards it as promotional, it will not get implemented, at least not in the way you asked. ColinFine (talk) 11:41, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    how do i add a new page for knowledge?

    I know how to edit Wikipedia, but I can't add new page's for specific content, If you can add new page's then how do I add them?

    Is it only for employees? SuperMarioGlitchy10 (talk) 20:18, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    @SuperMarioGlitchy10: Check out WP:YFA for steps on creating an article. It is not an easy task for new users, I suggest you work on improving existing articles first. RudolfRed (talk) 20:27, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello SuperMarioGlitchy10. An account needs to be at least four days old and have made at least ten edits in order to create a new article. Read and study and take seriously all of the advice at Your first article before you try. Cullen328 (talk) 23:05, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    As a new user you cannot create pages until your account is 'auto-confirmed' (10 edits / 4 days old). From my perspective you'd be best reading up on guidance on creating your first article via this link, but I'd also recommend first focusing on pages that are already here and adding or modifying existing content that you feel would be a benefit to the encyclopaedia to gain experience on editing before creating your first article. StarryNightSky11 ☎ 00:58, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    WP:TWL American National Biography paywall

    Hello! I'm attempting to access American National Biography through The Wikipedia Library; however, it still appears that most of the articles are still paywalled. Would anyone be interested in confirming this as well? Thanks so much! Silikonz💬 20:45, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    @Silikonz Hi there! If you don't receive a response here, you might want to ask at Wikipedia talk:The Wikipedia Library. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 02:42, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Silikonz: I can at least confirm that I'm having the same issue. As an example, I can no longer access the biography entry on Ranger, Joseph (1760?–?), which I was able to read using TWL access back in May. GoingBatty is probably right that WT:TWL is the place to go for further support. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:47, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Cite error

    I keep getting this error despite completely removing all the references and starting from scratch. It appears it may be because I reused a reference, but that is allowed, right? ERROR:

    1. Cite error: The named reference cv was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

    Page: Gene Brody - Wikipedia


    Any help appreciated. Academicmedia (talk) 21:27, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    There is a <ref name=cv/> in the infobox.Naraht (talk) 21:29, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, yes. That was from a previous editor, so I missed it. Thanks much. Academicmedia (talk) 21:41, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Same Name, Same University...

    Cooper Union's Architecture school is named after its alumnus Irwin S. Chanin who graduated in 1915. (I have a solid reference for this) Irwin S. Chanin is notable and an article exists. Alpha Mu Sigma was founded at Cooper Union in 1914 and one of its founders is Irwin S. Chanin. (I have a solid reference for this). What documentation would be needed to add the fact that he is the founder of Alpha Mu Sigma to the article on Irwin S. Chanin and link from the Alpha Mu Sigma page. Note Cooper Union is a pretty small school (currently 800-900, don't believe it was bigger 100 years ago) and Irwin S. Chanin is a pretty unusual name. *But* the same rules should apply if this was two John T Smiths attending Ohio State right? Note, I've contacted Cooper Union and the best they can do is agree with both facts. Ideas? Would a 1914 yearbook showing only one Irwin Chanin do? (not saying that is available)Naraht (talk) 21:27, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, Naraht. I see that Irwin Chanin says that he founded that fraternity. That unreferenced assertion was added by another editor yesterday. I suggest that you add the reference you found and stop worrying about whether or not there were two people of the same name at Cooper Union at the same time. That being said, such errors have happened before. Read the comments I wrote at Talk:Frederick Meyer 12 years ago. Cullen328 (talk) 22:51, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    December 10

    Citing telescope survey databases (SIMBAD, the ESO's GAIA data center, etc)

    I'm currently writing an article for the star RS Scuti, and I'm seeing if I can cite the SIMBAD database for information (like parallax, radius, etc) that I cannot find using services like Google Scholar and whatnot. Please respond to this article in clear words. Dontuseurrealname (talk) 05:14, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Yes, SIMBAD can be used as a reference. DMacks (talk) 11:37, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    How to tag something for deletion

    How do i tag an image or page for deletion Barisam (talk) 06:35, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, Barisam. Please read Wikipedia:Deletion policy. If you give us some details, we can probably give you a much more specific answer. I am always surprised when people ask questions like this without telling us which article they are talking about. So it goes. Cullen328 (talk) 07:52, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi Sir, How are you? I wish you luck. This (https://en.wikipedia.org) I'm Long time read your article. You may have noticed my comment on different article. By the way, awesome article. I'm writing different topic article. i want gust post in your webiste. i will pay it no problem. Iqbal500 (talk) 08:15, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm going to go out on a limb here, and interpret your post as a request to have an article about yourself? Unless you're a reliably sourced individual this won't happen, and even if you are, you cannot create it yourself, but would have to rely upon others to do so. WP:PAID and WP:COI are reasons why. If you mean you're willing to donate to Wiki to support, then this may help. Chaheel Riens (talk) 08:55, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    how much price paid post? Iqbal500 (talk) 09:43, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    If you are asking how much Wikipedia editors are paid, the answer is nothing. We are volunteers. - David Biddulph (talk) 09:53, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    sir i'm not asked editior . I give you article or given link in side you publish artical that it. 5.41.20.77 (talk) 10:12, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Please carefully read Wikipedia:Requested articles and follow those instructions (and don't refer to people here as "sir"). Thank you. Shantavira|feed me 11:46, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm afraid that you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is. We do not accept payment for "posts" in any form. We accept articles if they meet all our criteria for articles, vis that they are neutrally written summaries of what the (cited) reliable sources say about a notable topic, and do not contain any promotion or original research. If you have written an article outside Wikipedia, it is very unlikely (though not impossible) that it will meet Wikipedia's requirements. But you are welcome to read your first article, along with the other links I have given, and try to create an article. ColinFine (talk) 11:46, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I think the OP is asking how much a "paid posting" costs. ColinFine has the answer. David10244 (talk) 12:11, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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