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Yeah a blank page to write on :-)

I was checking Category:Copy to Wikimedia Commons reviewed by a human when I found File:Spyder logo.svg and some other logos. It seems that the http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ is mentioned on the page but does that apply to the logo? If I look at Spyder (software) it says License MIT. What do you think? --MGA73 (talk) 11:33, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Nice... Just found Category:Obsolete images. Guess we could delete many of those. --MGA73 (talk) 11:42, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure what to do with File:Spyder logo.svg. CC-BY 3.0 is obviously mentioned in the source code but it isn't possible to tell why the licence is mentioned there. {{MIT}} probably applies, but logos are sometimes special cases. MIT and CC-BY are supposed to be similar licences but designed for different purposes, so it doesn't look strange to see a CC-BY licence used in connection to MIT-licensed software. Category:Obsolete images looks like a useful category. --Stefan2 (talk) 13:46, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. Well the idea is probably that Cc is for images and MIT is for software so that is not good for images so that is why the logo has that license. --MGA73 (talk) 18:24, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Image problem

You seem to be an image expert. I contacted the uploader to let them know there is a problem with this image, but I don't have any specific advice. Do you know what the problem is? (When I click on it, I do not see the image, but I do if I click a second time.)

File:Official Guide of British Hotels 1974.png--SPhilbrick (Talk) 12:45, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

I can't tell what's wrong. The fullsize image doesn't display at all for me, but thumbnails work and I see the image when I use it on this talk page (see right). --Stefan2 (talk) 15:35, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for checking. I left a note for the uploader, but they may ask me what is wrong, so I thought I would check. I will urge them to try a new upload, in case there was simply a glitch in the original upload.--SPhilbrick (Talk) 17:18, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

RE: File:DragonC2+ Parachutes Deployed.jpg

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Old files

Hi! I have been moving a lot of files uploaded by Special:ListFiles/Swampyank and now a lot of oldies are left. I think most of them look ok but perhaps you could have a look once you can find some time? --MGA73 (talk) 08:38, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Freedom of panorama

Are you well versed in English law? I am curious as to how you would interpret this when applied to photos uploaded to Wikipedia or Commons. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 15:53, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry for my very late answer. I have been away a lot lately and got a lot behind with my activities on English Wikipedia. Are you asking for an introduction about freedom of panorama or are you interested in some specific aspect of it?

If you wish to take a photo of a building or a statue or some other item, you may sometimes find that you are not allowed to take a photo of it (or upload it here) because it is protected by copyright. If the object has entered the public domain, there are no restrictions on photography. Some countries provide so-called freedom of panorama, which means that you may ignore the copyright status of the object you are taking a photo of. If freedom of panorama doesn't apply, and if the object isn't in the public domain, then it is not possible to upload a photo of it to Wikipedia or Commons, unless the file complies with WP:NFCC or if you have permission from the copyright holder of the item you're taking a photo of. Commons has a guideline, Commons:COM:FOP, which explains how freedom of panorama works in different countries and when it does (or doesn't) apply.

You may wish to read about Atomium (a big monument in Belgium): SABAM, a Belgian organisation for copyright holders, has frequently had people pay fines because of photos of Atomium. Belgium doesn't offer any freedom of panorama at all, so if you are in Belgium and try to use a photo of a recent building or a recent statue, then you may end up in trouble. Quite unsurprisingly, Wikipedia's photo of Atomium, File:Atomium FlickR ctsnow.jpg, is only kept under a fair use claim.

Wikipedia only requires that a file is free in the United States. On the other hand, Wikimedia Commons also requires that the image is free in the source country. Thus, there are some photos which can be kept on Wikipedia but which can't be kept on Commons.

In the United States, buildings are in the public domain if they were completed before 1 December 1990 (see s:Architectural Works Copyright Protection Act for details). Thus, the United States have no restrictions on photos of buildings if they were completed before that date. More recent buildings are normally copyrighted, but according to 17 USC 120(a), you may nevertheless take photos of buildings if the buildings are visible from a public place (for example from an ordinary street). Some other countries, such as Belgium above, do not provide any freedom of panorama for buildings, so you may not upload photos of Belgian images to Commons unless the architect who designed the building died at least 70 years ago. It may often be hard to identify the architect or his date of death. It is disputed whether photos of Belgian buildings are free in the United States (and thus sufficiently free for Wikipedia), so there is currently an ongoing request for comments on the matter at Template talk:FoP-USonly#RFC: Does US FoP apply to foreign works?.

In the United States, there is no freedom of panorama for other objects such as statues. Thus, you may not upload a photo of a statue located in the United States unless you can prove that it is in the public domain for some reason. Statues erected before 1978 normally count as "published" at the moment when they were erected, and statues "published" (erected) before 1923 are thus in the public domain. The copyright terms in the United States are extremely complex, and there are lots of cases in which a statue may be in the public domain if it was first erected in the 1923-1977 era. Similarly, Belgium has no freedom of panorama for statues either, so you may not upload a photo of a Belgian statue unless it is in the public domain. The United States and Belgium use different copyright terms, and if you find that a statue is in the public domain in the United States but not in Belgium, then the photo is allowed on Wikipedia. However, the photo isn't allowed on Commons unless the statue is in the public domain in both countries. Some other countries, such as the United Kingdom, do have freedom of panorama for statues. Thus, if you take a photo of a statue in the United Kingdom, then the image is fine in the United Kingdom (but not necessarily elsewhere). It is disputed whether such images are allowed in the United States, but the current practice is to accept the images on Commons. The articles Itar-Tass Russian News Agency v. Russian Kurier, Inc. and de:Hundertwasserentscheidung have been brought up in discussions about this matter. The first case concluded that the United States copyright holder of a non-US work is to be determined by the copyright law of the source country (which suggests that the United States offers freedom of panorama for British works), whereas in the second case, Germany rejected Austrian freedom of panorama for a work located in Austria (which suggests that the United States doesn't offer freedom of panorama for British works).

If you wish to read any specific deletion discussions related to freedom of panorama, you might wish to take a look at Commons:Category:FOP-related deletion requests where lots of discussions have been categorised. --Stefan2 (talk) 21:41, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you enormously for this detailed explanation Stephan. To complete my education, could you let me have your take on on these specific photos and the licencing that has been claimed:

File:Hump traffic sign, Gibraltar.jpg (Gibraltar)
File:Fingerpost at Chawton.jpg (England)
File:A5-llwybrhanesyddol.JPG (Wales)

Thanks. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:54, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Without any indication of the opposite, I would assume that Gibraltar uses the same copyright law as the United Kingdom. British law makes a difference between "works of artistic craftsmanship" and "graphic works", and freedom of panorama only applies to works of artistic craftsmanship. Court cases have indicated that a 2D work usually isn't a work of artistic craftsmanship (see Commons:COM:FOP#United Kingdom). I do not think that these signs are covered by freedom of panorama, so it is necessary to determine if they are protected by copyright. Photos of British information boards and plaques are frequently deleted from Commons because of freedom of panorama concerns.

Logo of Edge

Very simple objects are not protected by copyright, but the term "simple" differs from country to country. You can see Commons:COM:TOO for some examples of simple works from different countries. The British definition is very strict, and it is assumed that very few works are too simple to be protected by copyright. For example, the logo of the British magazine Edge (see the image to the right) was found to be protected by copyright by a British court last year. See Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Two British logos for the relevant Commons discussion with links to a newspaper article and to the court decision. The Edge logo is nevertheless not copyrightable in the United States, so the logo is allowed here on English Wikipedia, even without a fair use claim. Because of the Edge ruling, I am not sure if it would be correct to assume that any of the objects on the photos are sufficiently simple, but this is a matter of debate. I do not think that there would be consensus on Commons to declare the first two signs as copyrightable unless you can show a court ruling which says otherwise.

Another important aspect is the fact that the United Kingdom doesn't provide copyright to utilitarian objects such as fridges or kitchen sinks. See for example this article where Star Wars helmets are ruled as not copyrightable in the United Kingdom because of their utilitarian aspects. Similarly, I would guess that the first two signs would be ruled as utilitarian (by giving information to car drivers or pedestrians), and thus not copyrightable for that reason.

I am troubled by the carriage and the horses at File:A5-llwybrhanesyddol.JPG, so I have started a thread about this at Commons:COM:VPC#British road signs because I want to hear the opinion of someone else. --Stefan2 (talk) 11:09, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you again Stephan for your detailed explanations. I will follow the thread carefully on Commons, because this is the one that interests me most. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:17, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Deletion of several files

Yo man, I'm not understanding what's going on... I uploaded the covers for articles of songs what are notable. Like, are on Billboard charts... So why you warn deletions of the files? -SrGangsta (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:10, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

File:50CentFloydMayweather.jpg is a copyright violation, taken from Getty Images.

A lot of your images are listed as unfree. Unfree images are required to have a fair use rationale, see WP:FUR and WP:NFCC#10c. Many of your images don't have fair use rationales.

There are other restrictions on non-free images. Basically, they shouldn't be used if they can be avoided. Some of them seem to be excessive, superfluous or insignificant to the article, so I proposed some of them for deletion. You can discuss the nominations at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2012 August 11. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:30, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Comment by User:AruniRC

The creator of that file had been a family friend of the subject and is now deceased (please refer to the dates mentioned). The photograph was taken entirely on a personal basis. Please mention the procedures for obtaining copyright about such material when the creator is deceased and the next of kin are no longer in touch. Or kindly remove that picture from the "tagged to be deleted" list.

Thanking you

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AruniRC

AruniRC (talk) 02:52, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

The copyright belongs to the photographer. You seem to be claiming that the photographer is dead. In that case, the copyright was transferred to the photographer's heirs. You should ask the heirs to send in permission. See WP:CONSENT for details. --Stefan2 (talk) 09:30, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Huh?

Sorry, you posted a very confusing thing about an image permission on my talk page. The artist uploaded the image herself. It is her image. She gave permission to upload it when we uploaded it. She is an artist. I just happened to be signed in at the time at her computer and was sitting next to her. Do you prefer that she reupload it when I am not signed in? She is 90 years old and if you actually need her to do something herself without me helping her you are going to need to explain to me how to do it since apparently the problem is that I was too involved the first time. Thanks, Saudade7 03:22, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Harry Robinson

Have I done enough? Kittybrewster ☎ 11:15, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Are you talking about File:Harry Robertson.jpg? I'd say that it looks fine now.

Horatio Bottomley

I'm confused by File:Horatio Bottomley.jpg. It says that the file is in the public domain, but you are also claiming fair use. Where does the image come from? --Stefan2 (talk) 11:19, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

A book. Forgotten which. Trouble is the quality is rubbish. Historical picture of dead guy. Can we find another pic? I am not attachedo this one. Kittybrewster ☎ 11:30, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

I have uploaded a new photo of Horatio Bottomley (see right). The image quality is a bit bad, though. There is this one published in Australia, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility that the image might have been published in the United Kingdom at an earlier point in which case the image might be copyrighted in the United States. --Stefan2 (talk) 12:10, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

A bit bad is dead right. Kittybrewster ☎ 12:54, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Curris picPyramid43 (talk) 01:21, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your help in getting this straightened out. I have sent the following letter to someone with access to the BOR website: http://www.murraystate.edu/boardofregents. Is that the appropriate thing to do?

The wiki entry is up at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_W._Curris There is a problem with the pic. I took it from the BOR website http://www.murraystate.edu/boardofregents

They need the pic to be released to wiki which I think means making it in the public domain. I thought the fact that it was on the MSU website meant that that had already happened.

Can you help me get the permission form filled out by someone from the BOR website? Permission form = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CONSENT Pyramid43 (talk) 05:34, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

You are really supposed to obtain permission before uploading the image. Making something available under GFDL or CC-BY-SA 3.0 (as suggested at WP:CONSENT) is not the same thing as releasing it to the public domain, although the differences aren't that big. For random images from the Internet, see Commons:COM:CB#Internet images. --Stefan2 (talk) 09:37, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

They have sent the permission statement. Is that sufficient?Pyramid43 (talk) 16:41, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Well, yes and no. There is some photo at File:Pic for Constantine W. Curris article.jpg, but it looks as if it was replaced by a different photo when your permission was accepted. --Stefan2 (talk) 21:56, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi Stefan2 (talk) 09:37, 13 August 2012 (UTC) Yes the new one is smaller than the original. However, it is the same picture. Can I just reinsert the slightly larger one? Pyramid43 (talk) 18:22, 29 August 2012 (UTC)Pyramid43 (talk) 18:28, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Probably not. The one who uploaded the smaller image gave the reason "uploading verifiably released image" for uploading the smaller image. Presumably, this means that the permission only covers the smaller image. --Stefan2 (talk) 19:37, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

File:School New Logo 1.png

Hi Sefan. Could you tzke a look at this please. I'm convinced that it cannot be the uploader's own work, and that as a a school logo it would be unfree and not acceptable on Commons, On Wikipedia it would need a FUR for what is fairly obviously a derivative work if not the original itself. I have no idea how to tag it for incorrect licencing or deletion (is there a Twinkle script for files?). Thanks. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:37, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

I have proposed it for deletion on Commons: Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:School New Logo 1.png. Twinkle is not used on Commons. There should be an option to the left in the toolbox which says "Nominate for deletion". If you wish to tag files for "no source" or "no permission" or similar, you might wish to go to Commons:Special:Preferences and enable the gadget "Quick Delete" which adds a few extra buttons in the toolbox. --Stefan2 (talk) 08:37, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I've done that now. I'll see if it works next time. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:13, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

ubc Image

Ok, Thanks for letting me know. Feel free to delete it because I don't have time to deal with this now. CanadaRed (talk) 01:39, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

File permission problem with File:3rd All-Africa Games logo.png

Hi, thank you for your message. Yes right it's a mistake for me, I will change that immediatly. Thank you for warring me. --Fayçal.09 (talk) 13:29, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi, finaly i maked an other mistake, I think I'm tired today

. In fact I want to delete this file because I created another one today, However I can't do that because I'm not an admin. Hope that u delete this file. Greetings. --Fayçal.09 (talk) 13:46, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

I've added a {{db-g7}} tag which I assume will handle it. --Stefan2 (talk) 21:05, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

File permission problem with File:CymruMap2.PNG

Firstly, I did not create this file. Secondly, it is rubbish and I have always despised it. Thirdly, it is clearly not a "derivative work" as the WikiNewSpeak would describe it... unless an outline of a particular country, in this instance Wales, cane be described as "derivative" which surely any rational human being would reject. Sometimes I do wonder.Aetheling1125 17:07, 14 August 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aetheling1125 (talk • contribs)

You used the template {{PD-self}} which indicates that you drew the map. Why did you use that template if you didn't draw the map?

It says that you drew this map based on some other map. That's why I tagged it as a derivative work. --Stefan2 (talk) 21:07, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

File permission problem with File:USM Bel-Abbes logo.png

Hi, thank you for warring me about the file. I changed license. Greetings. --Fayçal.09 (talk) 08:04, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks Stefan2 for taking me to the right way of uploading a file as I was giving wrong information. --Twiter is the best (talk) 09:56, 15 August 2012 (UTC)LakshyaTwiter is the best (talk) 09:56, 15 August 2012 (UTC)--

OH GOD WHY :(

1.Pictures of people still alive, groups still active, and buildings still standing; provided that taking a new free picture as a replacement (which is almost always considered possible) would serve the same encyclopedic purpose as the non-free image. This includes non-free promotional images.

Replacing an image of a military officers in Egypt is unlikely. Photographs of military officers are whether published by the Morale Affairs department which is a one in a life time portrait photograph (unless they're promoted) or taken by press under a permission by the Armed Forces. in case of the generals i uploaded their photos they are at the peak of their career and next step is retirement no further promotions.
thanks for notifying me, I'd like you to help me improve the tags and licences of the photos --Zo3a (talk) 10:07, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

The simple answer is that it is possible to take more photos of people who are still alive. It is thus possible to create a free photo of them. --Stefan2 (talk) 21:52, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Katapult Image

I have not been able to find a free version of this specific thing. It is a ride but it only lasted a few years and there were little of this model made. There are very few pictures of this and this was the best I could find. If you please be kind enough to help (because I have searched but couldn't find others) to find other picture please thanks. Dplcrnj (talk) 16:51, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

It says that it is a specific type of vehicle. Wouldn't you be able to find a copy of this type of vehicle somewhere of which you could take a photo? --Stefan2 (talk) 21:55, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

There are no more in the United States of America as it states here http://www.rcdb.com/r.htm?ot=2&mo=8237. All are out of the country.Dplcrnj (talk) 21:59, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

OK, so according to you, there are some copies somewhere, although not in the United States. Just go to one of those copies and take a photo of it. At the same time, you could try going to North Korea to take a photo of Kim Jong-un. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:31, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Copyright for File permission

Copyright for File permission and problem with File:Abdul Ghafoor Khan Durrani.jpg , Mr. Abdul Ghafoor Khan Durrani is dead and this is his picture for public use released by his grand son Abdul Sattar Khan Durran,--(talk/ Baloch Baba) 23:22, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Evidence of permission needs to be sent to OTRS. Otherwise, there is no way to prove that permission has been given. See WP:CONSENT for instructions. --Stefan2 (talk) 23:32, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Okay

Thanks and I have contacted the owner of the Logo Mr. Mohammad Abubakar Durrani and he will send the permission via email to OTRS as soon as possible,--(talk/ Baloch Baba) 20:49, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Certificate of Confirmation

Hi Dear Stefan, The Owner of the, File:Abdul Ghafoor Khan Durrani.jpg , Mr. Abdul Sattar Khan durrani has been tried to send the permission to the OTRS on the following Emails but all emails are out of orders, permissions-commonswikimedia.org permissions-enwikimedia.org permissions-enwikimedia.org permissions-enwikimedia.org permissions-enwikimedia.org so I am pasting the Certificate of Permission received from the above owner here on your Talk Page for further Necessary action Please, sorry for trouble,

TOWHOM IT MAY CONCERN I Abdul Sattar Khan Durrani Son of Abdul Sattar Khan Durrani Grandson of Abdul Ghafoor Khan Durrani hereby affirms that I am the sole owner of the exclusive copyright of File:Abdul Ghafoor Khan Durrani.jpg , I agree to publish that work under the free license "Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0" and GNU Free Documentation License by MR. Shanzeb Marri Baloch (Baloch Baba) Volunteer editor of Wikipedia for common use in Wikipedia. I acknowledge that by doing so I grant anyone the right to use the work in a commercial product or otherwise, and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws. I am aware that this agreement is not limited to Wikipedia or related sites. I am aware that I always retain copyright of my work, and retain the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be claimed to have been made by me. I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement and that the content may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project.

Abdul Sattar Khan Durrani Son of Abdul Salam Khan Durrani Additional Advocate General in Balochistan. Quetta. --(talk/ Baloch Baba) 22:30, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

You need to include the @ sign in the e-mail address: permissions-en@wikimedia.org or permissions-commons@wikimedia.org. If you drop the @ sign, it won't work. --Stefan2 (talk) 21:11, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Oh Many Thanks,,--(talk/ Baloch Baba) 23:02, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

File:Vblock 300 FX.jpg

Hi - The Vblock image in question is made available as Creative Commons Attribution, Share Alike license and, further, I am the creator of the image and my original publication is on Flickr at the following URL http://www.flickr.com/photos/jcuthrell/6341927952 which you can compare against my own user page and bio --Qthrul (talk) 10:30, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

File:Frasier Crane Diane Chambers.jpg

Maybe you can help me about this image? Right now, it is nominated for deletion. --George Ho (talk) 20:18, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

File permission problem with File:KosherRegisterLogo.jpg

Thanks for Informing me on this.. Im new here so I still dont know how to go about this stuff.. If you are in charge of the deletion of my image , please give me more time to come up with the permission- I still have to ask the owner to make the permission letter- will have to contact him soon,, thank you stefan Kosheryankel (talk) 03:05, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

It says that Kosher Register has released this file to the public domain. You need to tell Kosher Register to send a confirmation of this to OTRS. See instructions at WP:CONSENT. --Stefan2 (talk) 08:48, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi, is my image fine now? The owner has sent an email for the permission. thanks ! Kosheryankel (talk) 05:30, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Someone added a {{PermissionOTRS}}, which suggests that everything is fine. --Stefan2 (talk) 09:34, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

thank you!Kosheryankel (talk) 15:55, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

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File:Opel-Adam 3trims 279642.jpg

The file is published under a Creative-Commons Share-Alike licence. All information is on the image page. The only restriction is that it may not be used for commercial purposes. That is why this image is on en.wikipedia.org, and not on commons.wikimedia.org. Unfortunately, Wikipedia does not provide a template {{CC-BY-NC-3.0}}, which could simplify the uploading and administration immensely. All GM images are now released licenced by CC-BY-NC-3.0. --L.Willms (talk) 06:54, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

CC-BY-NC-3.0 is an unfree licence since it doesn't allow you to use the image commercially. The fair use rationale didn't specify that the model doesn't exist yet (or at least isn't available to the public). In that case, I agree that the image is irreplaceable for the moment being, although it still needs to be deleted in early 2013. --Stefan2 (talk) 08:55, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

File:South African Army Badge.png and File:SA Navy Badge.png

I have solved the "Possibly unfree files" issue of File:South African Army Badge.png and File:SA Navy Badge.png by replacing the incorrect licencing templates with the correct {{Non-free symbol}} template applicable to military badges and symbols. I'm not sure what needs to be done to close the issue so could you please see to it. Roger (talk) 07:51, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

The images also need fair use rationales for all articles in which they are used. --Stefan2 (talk) 08:57, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Quite simply I don't understand the whole "fair use" fetish - why WP makes such a huge issue out of it. Once it is explained that "this is the official logo of the organisation" that should the end of it - there is nothing else that can or needs to be said about it. Using the official logo of an organisation in the article about the organisation is inherently fair use - even a semi-comatose lawyer should be able to understand that.

No organisation ever objects to their logo being used in articles about them - the opposite is in fact true. The help desk regularly gets requests from organisation representatives asking for their logo to be added to "their" article - or for their "new improved" logo to replace to old one.

Instead of harrassing inexperienced article writers about this issue why don't wikilawyers write a proper fair use template to fully cover such a simple explanation. The fair use rationale for an official logo is always the same - there should be a "rubber stamp" for it. Roger (talk) 09:46, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

If you wish to change the policy, try asking at WP:VPP or WT:NFC. --Stefan2 (talk) 09:59, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

It's not about changing the policy, it's about the way it is applied. It's about accepting that an organisation's official logo is "by definition" fair use in articles about the organisation. I'll raise the matter at WT:NFC. I really find this to be the most frustrating aspect of wikiediting. Thanks for your patience. Roger (talk) 11:20, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Deletion of image

Hello. You just marked my image for deletion and I can't work out how to contest this. Within minutes, it had already gone. I thought I had provided (quite a lot) of information about the copyright. Where can I contest this decision now? MP at HCNM (talk) 14:31, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

If I remember correctly, you wrote that the image had some Creative Commons licence with the "ND" element. The "ND" element makes the licence unfree and thus unacceptable. If you disagree, I believe that the correct venue for appealing is WP:DRV. --Stefan2 (talk) 14:37, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the reply. I believe the ND just limits what you can do with it (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/3.0/), but I guess the place to debate this is where you sent me, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MP at HCNM (talk • contribs) 14:58, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

ND means that you can't modify the image. According to the definition Wikipedia uses to determine if something is free to use, works are not free to use if you can't modify them. --Stefan2 (talk) 17:18, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Fair enough. I have more images that have no status as yet and I'll make one of those free. Thanks for your help.MP at HCNM (talk) 07:09, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

File:Libera christmas deluxe.jpg

Fails WP:NFCC#3a since there already is a different image: File:Basic album cover 275 275 80 c1.jpg. Stefan2 (talk) 14:15, 21 August 2012 (UTC).
I suggest Keep. this is the cover for a new (repackaged) version of the same album. 21 August 2012. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hitori12 (talk • contribs) 14:34, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

HI

Dear Stephan, The photos I uploaded for Mariah Carey are permissible for the free use for public !! And they are uploaded for Mariah Carey's article since I am an auto confirmed USER @

THANK YOU --Fidelove (talk) 18:55, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

It says that File:Mariah Carey at Dorchestor Hotel.jpg is used under a fair use claim. Mariah Carey is a person who is still alive, so it is possible to create a replacement photo by taking a photo of her. For that reason, fair use claims are deemed as unacceptable.

It says that File:Opening of Good Will Hunting.jpg and File:Mariah Carey at Fresh Air Fund Benefit Concert.jpg were taken from the www.mariahjournal.com website and that they are licensed under certain licences. However, the web site shows no evidence of this. There is also a claim which says that Mariah Daily Journal is an unofficial fansite, so maybe the images originally have been taken from elsewhere. You need to ask the photographers to send evidence of the licence claim to OTRS. See WP:CONSENT for instructions. --Stefan2 (talk) 17:26, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Warsow Screenshot

The file File:Warsow Screenshot.jpg originally was just a screenshot from an open source game. I saw you want to use an updated version. Go for it. What's the deal with all this copyright abuse report for an open source game's screen shot that was already replaced by one from the official site?

Your version is better and newer. You replaced mine. Move on.

Wow, deleting an elderly woman's family photos and an artist's original work. Why don't you try to add something original to Wikipedia instead of trying to delete everything in sight? It's people like you that are causing people to leave Wikipedia in droves. [Wikipedia losing volunteers] People like you are the problem. Slacka123 (talk) 20:06, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

May I suggest you download, English Wikipedia (All Articles) 2012 . From that you can delete articles and images all day long. This will load faster and you will not waste people's time with pathetic cry for help...I mean deletion nominations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slacka123 (talk • contribs) 23:04, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

The screenshots taken from http://www.warsow.net/media are licensed under are licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License. . You can verifity this from the footer of the page they were taken from. Now can you please drop dead and remove the listing from the Removal Requst Page? Preferably, not in that order. Slacka123 (talk) 04:08, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Per: "Note: Files can be unlisted immediately if they are indisputably in the public domain or verifiably licensed under an indisputably free license (CC-BY-SA)" FILE WAS REMOVED Slacka123 (talk) 06:53, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

File:Coat of Arms of Nigeria

Seriously? We can't use it in the template? ༆ (talk) 03:28, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Non-free files can't be used in templates. See WP:NFCC#9. --Stefan2 (talk) 03:37, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

So we can only use it in the article? If so, why is the coat of arms of Nigeria so unique? ༆ (talk) 03:43, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Moving Burma to Myanmar - ongoing poll

This is to let you know that an ongoing poll is taking place to move Burma to Myanmar. I know this happened just recently but no administrator would close these frequent rm's down, so here we go again. This note is going out to wikipedia members who have participated in Burma/Myanmar name changing polls in the past. It does not include banned members nor those with only ip addresses. Thank you. Fyunck(click) (talk) 05:07, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for notification

Hi stefan thanks for notifying me on the picutre dispute Shrikanthv (talk) 12:35, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

HI

DUNNO HOW TO CHANGE THE UPLOADED PHOTO CATEGORY :( — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fidelove (talk • contribs) 13:35, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

What are you trying to change and why? --Stefan2 (talk) 15:00, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Mariah Carey ;s article Main Picture and two other pictures (Mariah Carey at Air Fund Concert) and at the (opening of Good Will hunting). and the reason why I added these two photos to Carey's article just to add some vision to her 2 - decade plus career article alongside the text for the readers NOT to FACE boredom from the long ARTICLE! While the reason behind changing the box picture is because the previous one was so outdated since 2008. --Fidelove (Fidelove) 18:34, 22 August 2012 (BET)

How to prove copywrite permission

Clownfart is a professional warsow player. His videos are all over youtube. So his claim that he has been contacted by the developers and been given permission to use the material in the Press Pack to promote the game is very plausable. How would one prove this to wikipedia? NeedCokeNow (talk) 15:38, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Eric Harris

I've answered to your request. Besides, I sent an email to the Jefferson County Sheriff Department asking for information on the picture. Nienk (talk) 12:44, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

File:Frasier Lilith Cheers.jpg and File:Frasier Lilith Room Service.jpg

What about these images that I have uploaded? If a photo of two characters is unnecessary, are these other two unnecessary, as well? If so, what about adding free photos of Kelsey Grammer into Lilith Sternin and Bebe Neuwirth into Frasier Crane as substitutes for non-free images? Would that be fine?

If you plan on nominating for deletion, please tag them with {{db-g7}} rather than use FFD. If you do the "db-g7", let me know, so I'll replace them with free images. --George Ho (talk) 04:57, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, it seems that I missed this. It says that the files have been deleted, so was everything sorted out? --Stefan2 (talk) 14:32, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

As it turns out, illustrating two characters in one photo is unnecessary, unless a relationship between two is notable enough as a stand-alone article. Well, there is no need to reply, as I can guess. --George Ho (talk) 14:53, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Account creation

Hi Stefan, In case you hadn't noticed, this account has possibly not been created with good faith intentions.. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 08:42, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for telling. I realise that I need to put my own user page on my watchlist to find out about these things, since I do otherwise only get notices about comments to my user talk page. I thank User:George Ho for quickly reverting the changes and I also thank User:JohnCD for quickly deleting some things per WP:CSD#G10. --Stefan2 (talk) 10:28, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

File:Nivedita Tiwari 2012.jpg

Uploader sent a revised permission with the correct license. Thanks for your eagle eye.--SPhilbrick (Talk) 12:38, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

File permission problem with File:Mad Oak Studios Logo.gif

Hi Stefan2, thanks for your input and your help. I'm a bit confused now, though. While in the process of getting the email from the owner of the coypright of the logo, I noticed that the logo's site (File:Mad_Oak_Studios_Logo.gif). It is now listed as non-free media? I don't know who did this change but do I still need to send the 'contract/permission' you pointed me towards to Wikipedia? Thanks again and have a great day! Rchirinosl (talk) 21:21, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Someone changed it to fair use, which is enough I suppose. --Stefan2 (talk) 19:33, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

File permission problem with File:Ricky Kej Musician India.jpg

Hi Stefan2, thanks for pointing the problem with the permissions. I guess you can delete the file. I have uploaded a new version of the file and put it up on the page with what I feel is the right license for the file . Can you please verify ?

The page : User:Prashanthraghubangalore/sandbox — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prashanthraghubangalore (talk • contribs) 11:27, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi! You need permission from the copyright holder (which is normally the photographer) and you need to send the permission to OTRS. See instructions at WP:CONSENT. --Stefan2 (talk) 19:32, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Finished with my ex

Hello there stefan! I received your message because of the image I uploaded, I really don't know what I can do about it... I believe it was released to public domain, since I got the image from the band's official Facebook page... Please help me! Thank You, Salgado96... (This is the image: File:Finished With My Ex band performing on radio showcase.jpg ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Salgado96 (talk • contribs) 2012-08-29T20:27:04 (UTC)

If you get something from the band's official Facebook page, it does not mean that it has been released to the public domain. Someone, presumably the photographer, is the copyright holder of that photo. The copyright holder needs to agree to publish the image under a free licence, or else it will be deleted. See WP:CONSENT for instructions. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:02, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

There are no information about who is the photographer... perhaps, its not even a real photographer, but just someone who "toke a photo"... please help me please. Thank you very much. Salgado96 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Salgado96 (talk • contribs) 2012-08-29T22:06:17 (UTC)

The photographer needs to send permission according to the instructions at WP:CONSENT. If you can't identify the photographer, the image can probably not be kept. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:11, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Well, i personally know the bands members... I just asked them who toke it... it was Cris, the bands guitarrist who toke the photo... i guess its band's property and being band's property, it was released under commons like they usually do... not to mention the the image was already available for digital download along with others, when the band released a demo a few months ago, which already doesn't exist... the demo and the images were released under the license. User:Salgado96

Then locate a statement from the band where it says that the image has been published under the specified licence, or ask the photographer to send permission per the instructions at WP:CONSENT. --Stefan2 (talk) 08:49, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Hello stefan! Well, i asked them if they could put the license which their material is released visible on their website. if you enter it, you will see a text saying "are you ready to let go?" and you click it and it will lead you to the website where, in the bottom, says "All imagery and content is released under a Creative Commons License (BY-NC-SA)"... the image that is for deletion can be found in "OUVIR" which, in portuguese, means "Listen". Thank You, Salgado96. User:Salgado96

You will probably not like this, but not all Creative Commons licences are accepted here. Creative Commons licences containing the "NonCommercial" (NC) and "NoDerivs" (ND) attributes are considered unfree, and this licence contains an NC. --Stefan2 (talk) 23:07, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Well, I will talk to them if they can change the license for the images, separated from the music licenses... Well, i bet they will, since they asked me if i could help them in wiki.Thank You, Salgado96. User:Salgado96

Strictly speaking, they only need to change the licence of this image (and any other images which they might want to add to Wikipedia). If there are other images which they don't want on Wikipedia, they could publish those images under any licence they want. --Stefan2 (talk) 23:20, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

They decided: images (CC BY-SA) and music (BY-NC-SA), they told me they might want other images on wiki later. Now, does this means the image can be kept? Thank You :) User:Salgado96

It looks fine now, I think. --Stefan2 (talk) 14:42, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Hey stefan, can I just remove the deletion template in the image please? (don't know if it can be deleted...) User:Salgado96

Chief Flying Hawk

The image of Chief Flying Hawk (Chief Flying Hawk, Buffalo Bill'd Wild West, Cast Card.jpg) is part of a set of 16 postcards sold by the American Museum of Natural History, N.Y. The cards are not dated, but likely late 20's or early 30's. The series was numbered "Post Card Series No. X", Indians of North America. The original photograph is Mathers Museum Wanamaker Gallery. Although the postcard is the same picture as the photograph, it does not show the pipe in Flying Hawk's hand and is cropped. The postcard is printed much lighter and shows more detail. I hope that this information is helpful.Richlevine00 (talk) 20:51, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Probably. A postcard from that time had to contain a copyright notice, which had to contain a year. If no year is indicated on the postcard, I would guess that the postcard is in the public domain due to a faulty copyright notice. Please participate in the discussion at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2012 August 28#File:Chief Flying Hawk, Buffalo Bill'd Wild West, Cast Card.jpg. --Stefan2 (talk) 08:54, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

The photograph is from the Wanamaker Collection, a set of 8,000 pictures taken between 1908 and 1923 by Joseph K. Dixon. Wikipedia:Public domain#Artworks says (in part) that proof of publication is mandatory; uploaders making a "public domain" claim on a reproduction of an artwork are required to prove with verifiable details that the work was first published before 1923. That has not been done, so it has to be deleted. -- Dianna (talk) 23:45, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Map of the Gjesværstappan islands

I don't understand how to add the fact that I created the map of the Gjesværstappan islands myself. It is much easier to do this on Wikimedia than in Wikipedia. But I created the map whose page you edited myself, using a program called Serif PhotoPlusX2.User:MartinCollin

It says that the map has been moved to Commons, so I assume that everything is fine now. --Stefan2 (talk) 08:55, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Planning Wikimedia Ghana Logo

Hi, I may need your help here. Planning Wikimedia Ghana has the license to use WMF loos for our outreach program. We are working towards a chapter in our country. I affixed the type on the image with photoshop but the logo obviously belongs to WMF. What kind of license should I use then?

Sandister Tei (talk) 01:05, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

What image are you talking about? Wikimedia logos are usually under the {{Copyright by Wikimedia}} licence, if that helps. --Stefan2 (talk) 08:56, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Otero pics

just curious why the otero pics 1-5 are up for deletion? if it's bc they are in a gallery I have no problem taking them out, didn't realize we couldn't. is that the only reason they are though? if i do that can they be un-nomiated? :) just wondering. thanks xx Lady Lotus (talk) 11:59, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

You normally can't use images in galleries, per WP:NFG. This comes from WP:NFCC#3a and WP:NFCC#8 which together say that you shouldn't use too many images unless they are needed. I think that it would be fine to keep one image in the article to show an example of her work, but not all of the images.

Currently (Special:PermanentLink/509928350), you use a photo of her for the purpose of telling what she looks like. This is a problem because WP:NFC#UUI §1 (based on WP:NFCC#1) says that you can't use non-free images to describe what a living person looks like, except in exceptional situations. See the countless discussions at Talk:Kim Jong-un for an example of where people are disagreeing on whether a situation is exceptional or not. --Stefan2 (talk) 12:50, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

I get that and the gallery thing I'm fine without it, but most of her work is self-portraits so...lol aren't I limited in that regard? If I removed it from her infobox and put it the in main article, would that work? Lady Lotus (talk) 12:53, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Re: File:Sledge Hockey Quarter2.png listed for deletion

Thanks for the warning. However, the only reason I uploaded this image was because I kicked it off Commons. I didn't want to be responsible for a used image being deleted just because someone transferred to to commons when it should have stayed Wikipedia. So I could care less if it is deleted. However, again, thanks for the warning.--ARTEST4ECHO (^talk/_contribs) 12:58, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Well, at least we avoid complaints from people who don't like Commons if it is deleted by User:ImageRemovalBot instead of User:CommonsDelinker. --Stefan2 (talk) 23:05, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Non-free media resolution

Hi,

I notice you reduced the resolution on a file I recently uploaded (File:Live at Edu Screenshot.png). I think you've reduced the resolution far beyond anything reasonable/sensible - all that exists now is a vague yellow blob. I was wondering if you could re-upload it with a slightly higher resolution or if you'd be happy for me to? (I'm not too familiar with Wikipedia's policies on screenshots but I'm fairly sure the original image satisfied the guidlines found in Wikipedia:NFCC#3b? (Also reducing the resolution of screenshots renders text unreadable (or fugly at best) rendering the screenshots uselesss... anyway that's kind of irrelevant to this...))

Thanks!

GoddersUK (talk) 00:29, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

It says in the fair use rationale that the purpose is to display the image in the article Live@edu. I just reduced it to the maximum size that you can get in that article, and if you use the default settings, it is even smaller than that. As you can see, the reduction doesn't affect the way the article looks, so I'm not sure what the problem is. The purpose of the image is not to display a big image on the file information page. --Stefan2 (talk) 00:41, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Because clearly displaying images at full size in the article would be silly. That doesn't mean someone reading the article won't want to see a useable sized image (I for one almost always click the thumbnails on Wikipedia pages when I'm browsing). (A bit like reading a book that has all the images on a few central pages rather than in the text as you read.) The full size image isn't displayed on the info page anyway - MediaWiki automatically scales it down but the full size is there for those that wish to see it. Even if you think the original doesn't match Wikipedia's fair use policies on the issue turning it into a postage stamp is massively OTT... This (Live at Edu light Screenshot.png) is far more sensible as an absolute minimum size. The purpose of the image is to "illustrate and identify the product" (from the fair use rationale). That postage stamp may just about help identify but it certainly doesn't illustrate it...

GoddersUK (talk) 00:54, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

The fair use rationale begins with the words "Non-free media information and use rationale for Live@edu". This tells that the rationale exclusively refers to the copy of the image which is used in the article Live@edu. That is, the fair use rationale tells that the purpose of the image, in the form it is used in the article, is to illustrate and identify the product. When I look at the article, I see this image. Thus, the fair use rationale tells that this image is used to illustrate the article and identify the product. The fair use rationale doesn't say anything about other images. --Stefan2 (talk) 14:32, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Regard speedy deletion

I upload this file File:Gajar(carrot) grated.jpg again because there is a problem with my Internet connection. I upload them one time and then after some time because I think it is not properly uploaded. Sorry for that, How can I upload it again.--Arun sharma 101 (talk) 15:05, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

The file is a copyright violation from this blog. You can't upload the image at all. --Stefan2 (talk) 19:26, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

can I use low resolution image of it?--ARUN SHARMA ¹⁰¹Talk | Email 13:37, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Nope, sorry. See WP:NFCC#1. --Stefan2 (talk) 14:25, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

File:Ljn series 2.jpg and other files in Wrestling Superstars

I think we need a better license for this file and the other files in the article. Any idea which one to choose? {{Non-free character}}?--MGA73 (talk) 20:43, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Possibly, or maybe {{Photo of art|{{PD-self}}||{{Non-free 3D art}}}} (cf. File:MattelBarbieno1br.jpg), although the 3D art licence mainly seems to be intended for statues and similar things in countries without FOP. --Stefan2 (talk) 20:55, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

I took the first one... Now everyone can see it is unfree. --MGA73 (talk) 21:27, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Note that {{Photo of art}} needs a non-free licence as argument three. I added {{Non-free character}} to all of them. I thought that argument two was supposed to be the photographer, but you listed the toy manufacturer instead. Argument 2 seems to be a bit unclear. --Stefan2 (talk) 21:36, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

File:Krishnath College School.jpg

Dear Stefan, Of course , the building has not changed much and looks the same till its construction. But, now if there is a problem, please suggest a suitable license. Thanks with regards. User:B. Mandal — Preceding undated comment added 2012-09-02T20:45:59‎ (UTC)

Photos of existing buildings have to be kept under a free licence such as GFDL or CC-BY-SA. This was listed as a fair use image, which isn't acceptable. --Stefan2 (talk) 14:38, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:Fahd Jassem al-freij.jpg

Thank you for message regarding this image. Have advised image is being used under fair use - image is part of an article on a individual of significant importance based on current events. Kindly advise of any further information your required, regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zombiecapper (talk • contribs) 06:58, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

You need permission from the copyright holder, who is normally the photographer, and the copyright holder needs to choose a free licence such as GFDL or CC-BY-SA. See WP:CONSENT for instructions. This is a photo of a person who is still alive, so fair use isn't applicable per WP:NFCC#1. --Stefan2 (talk) 14:41, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

File:The-beastie-boys-drummer-alfredo-ortiz.jpg

Hello Stefan2, this photo was given to Alfredo Ortiz by the photographer (Dave Hingerty) to freely use. The original is on Dave Hingerty's website (http://www.irishdrumacademy.ie/online_lessons.html) and on Alfredo Ortiz's Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=74785894466&set=a.460207039466.268674.741909466&type=3) used with permission. The copyright violation you linked (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://ue-support.logitech.com/uploads/assets/testimonials/alfredo-ortiz.jpg&imgrefurl=http://ue-support.logitech.com/zh-tw/support/find-your-audiologist&h=180&w=180&sz=19&tbnid=TVJ6Z94ArixGGM&tbnh=144&tbnw=144&zoom=1&usg=__cxXACn3unlAUPIlDazFZOKNKwS8=&sa=X&ei=AglFUP3dKMTb4QSNsIDQDQ&ved=0CD4Q8g0) is actually a copy. Rosemccbe (talk) 20:18, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Please don't fork discussions. --Stefan2 (talk) 20:22, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

My apologies, I am new to this and you are obviously an expert, so your help and guidance would be appreciated. --Rosemccbe (talk) 21:16, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

I think I might also have been a bit grumpy when I wrote the above... --14:43, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

The Declaration of Consent has been forwarded to permissions-en@wikimedia.org and is awaiting attention. Rosemccbe (talk) 21:08, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Good! --Stefan2 (talk) 14:43, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Notice of Dispute resolution discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding a content dispute in which you may have been involved. Content disputes can hold up article development, therefore we request your participation in the discussion to help find a resolution. The thread is "Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2012 September 3#File:SA Army General rank.jpg". Thank you! EarwigBot ^{operator / talk} 07:02, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Hello and thanks for pointing out the violation of various photos of mine by the Sarhad Conservation Network! In fact, these people accompanied me at a time for some photo shoots and (a) we took similar photos from our cameras and (b) also shared some photos-- I shall try to resolve this matter and let you know asap as to the status.AsadUK200 (talk) 07:07, 4 September 2012 (UTC)AsadUK200

Hello, again. I believe someone has already removed the said/concerned photo, without a chance of my justifying or resolving this matter/issue-- but thats ok, I shall take another new photo when i next go up to Abbottabad and post. Thanks for your attention AsadUK200 (talk) 08:42, 4 September 2012 (UTC)AsadUK200

Are you talking about File:Abbottabad cemetry.jpg? It says that the file was deleted as a copyright violation, so I assume that I was able to find the file somewhere on the Internet. In that case, you have to ask the photographer to send permission to OTRS to prove that the use on Wikipedia is legit. See WP:IOWN and WP:CONSENT for details. --Stefan2 (talk) 20:51, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Sorry didnt get to see your message before. Its ok, i have asked my grandson to go to Abbottabad (30 mins drive from here) and get a new photo for me. Sorry for all the bother AsadUK200 (talk) 08:41, 30 September 2012 (UTC)AsadUK200

SA Ranks and WP:NFG

Hi. I believe that I/we have a fair case to make an exception to WP:NFG. As I cannot find a place to find a 3rd opinion on this I am trying the dispute resolution process. It may be the wrong process but maybe fresh eyes will confirm if I'm wrong or not. Gbawden (talk) 07:20, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Orphaned image

Its all well and good, but I had explicitly stated in the file information that it would be used in my sandbox until the improved version of the article i'm developing is ready to go live here Cycling in Copenhagen. Is that really against the rules? - Sertmann (talk) 17:24, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Well, WP:NFCC#7 says that non-free images have to be used in at least one article. A sandbox is not an article since it is not in the article namespace. Also, WP:NFCC#9 says that you can't use non-free images in the User namespace (where your sandbox is). --Stefan2 (talk) 19:33, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Also, I don't think that the image meets WP:NFCC#8 since you don't need a picture of the bicycle strategy in order to tell that the city has a bicycle strategy. --Stefan2 (talk) 20:19, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi again, would you mind taking a look here: File talk:Copenhagen Bicycle Strategy Cover.jpg - Sertmann (talk) 09:54, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Orphaned free files

I just noticed that you commented on this old discussion so perhaps this could interesst you. The idea is/was that if we could get rid of 100 files in one DR then we could reduce the mtc-backlog fast. --MGA73 (talk) 19:30, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Commented there. Currently I'm concentrating on finding orphaned unfree files, though. The WP:NFCC#7 bots don't seem to detect all WP:NFCC#7 violations, so I'm searching for the missing ones and tagging those. --Stefan2 (talk) 20:04, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Help With Photo

File:FieldStationDinosaursTREXLogo.gif Hey, I saw you made an adjustment to the logo for an article I'm looking to put up. I'm working with the park to get the page up and running, but I must admit that even after reading through everything I'm still quite a novice at this. I am not sure what else I need to provide in order to host the logo I'm trying to use. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AMagrini (talk • contribs) 16:36, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

The problem is that the image isn't used in an article. A personal sandbox is not an article. All non-free images have to be used in at least one article, and you can't use them in a personal sandbox. See WP:NFCC#7 and WP:NFCC#9. --Stefan2 (talk) 20:12, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the clarification. I will also be reviewing the other photos I uploaded, as I was not sure of the proper licensing that goes along with them. --AMagrini (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 20:26, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Hoffmann photo archive

Hello! Hope all is well and thanks for the message. Please see here. I do not want to repeat what is already sated there, but if you have additional questions, do not hesitate to contact me. best regards!! Mariaflores1955 (talk) 15:51, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

STEFAN... Can I ask you what are you doing? You have been placing images on the NON FREE list all afternoon! They are all free images as mentioned before. All were verified and determined as FREE in the past. I do not have any idea what are you up to! But I am certain that this is not helpful to the quality of Wikipedia at all! Mariaflores1955 (talk) 18:30, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

As I have explained to you, photos by H. Hoffmann are only free if they are seized Nazi property. As explained in the {{PD-HHOFFMANN}} template, you need to provide a link to the United States National Archives. This evening, I've found out that some of your uploads do not contain a link to the United States National Archives, so I have reported them as possibly unfree. --Stefan2 (talk) 18:34, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Reed the first post and the comments on that link! You are wrong about the Hoffman photos and the US National Archives collection. There is a nice overview of the legal ruling Price v. United States right here on Wikipedia. As you can see the Photographic archive (includes photographs from the WWII and pre-WWII period) and also the Carlisle archive are INCLUDED as FREE of copyright. Also, majority of the Hoffmann images are available as free via the Bundesarchive.Mariaflores1955 (talk) 18:37, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

I am not an expert on the matter but somewhere else I read that also the UK archive needs to be considered. Is this true? MisterBee1966 (talk) 18:39, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately, Stefan2 (talk · contribs) and others are wrong branding these images as unfree. In fact the {{PD-HHOFFMANN}} template is not at all accurate. I would suggest that the people who created this template review the facts of the Price v. United States ruling. All the photos posted by myself on Wikipedia come from negatives owned by Wartenberg Trust and its foundations and yes, these are ALL part of the NARA Hoffmann works (because Wartenberg Trust gave copies of all their photos to NARA). There are no links to the individual images at this time! Also, many more photos, not at NARA, are part of the Carlisle Archive, which is also covered by the Price v. United States ruling. Unfortunately the poorly made and deceiving {{PD-HHOFFMANN}} template does not show this at all. In conclusion, nearly 100% of all Hoffmann photographs (created between 1933-1945) are protected as FREE by the above mentioned legal decision. It is absolutely frustrating that administrators such as Stefan2 (talk · contribs) make these incredibly poor decisions based on conjecture rather than facts. Before he nominated these images for deletion, he should have talked with the uploaders and others (who actually understand the legal matter) to resolve this issue.Mariaflores1955 (talk) 12:20, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

I'll answer at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history#Heinrich Hoffmann Images. --Stefan2 (talk) 13:18, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you Stefan2 (sorry for calling you an administrator). As I said before the entire collection (currently at NARA) is FREE of copyright. Wartenberg Trust donated all the images in their collection attributed to Hoffmann to NARA after the WWII (in 1950s or 60s). It was not until 1995 that the Price v. United States ruling came into effect. At that point the images and negatives were long part of the NARA collection, thus were directly affected by the decision, in addition to those photos taken from Hoffmann studios in Munich and elsewhere (including the offices of SIgnal). Also, the the Carlisle Archive is covered by this! No one is seem to mention this!! Please note that the Alien Property Custodian issue is irrelevant here. The ONLY legal ruling that affects H. Hoffmann works is Price v. United States. Also note that nearly all the Hoffmann images are available via the Bundesarchiv and free of copyright!! Thank you!Mariaflores1955 (talk) 18:25, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Image tag incivility

The particular template you chose to place on my talk page was unnecessarily confrontational (for example: "blatant copyright infringement" and threatening a block from editing). There are other templates that are less, shall we say, threatening. The only real conclusion that I can come to is that you must think that I am a regular violator of copyrights. Sure, I have some previous tags on my talk page, but those were from when I started about two years ago, and they have since been remedied, and in my time here, I have learned the proper copyright procedures (I mostly upload album covers).

In any case, I would prefer that you avoid my talk page in the future. --L1A1 FAL (talk) 16:35, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

The template is a standard template placed on any talk page after reporting a copyright violation. If feel that the template can be improved, feel free to make {{db-imgcopyvio-notice}} better.

You didn't have any time to react because the file was tagged as a copyright violation. Copyright violations are typically deleted very quickly. --Stefan2 (talk) 21:52, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Based on the timing, I can't help feeling like tagging this is meant more as a shot at me (since I uploaded it - legitimately, I might add) because I dared to questioned you.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 22:37, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Furthermore I might as well ask what copyright did I violate exactly on the first item I brought into question. It was a geometric shape which was created in a country that ceased to exist over 30 years ago. Who holds this alleged copyright? I have to assume you would know, as otherwise, you could not have called it out.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 22:48, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

The file has been deleted, so I am no longer able to tell why I found that the image violates copyright. You wrote that the file "was created in a country that ceased to exist over 30 years ago". I take it that this means that it is an old object which is at least 30 years old. Presumably, I found some evidence that the file had been uploaded elsewhere on the Internet before it was uploaded here. If you are arguing that the file is in the public domain because of age, you need to prove this. In most cases, this means that you have to prove that the work has been published somewhere before 1923. --Stefan2 (talk) 23:04, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

I perhaps should have been a bit clearer with that. As the country ceased to exist over 30 years ago, it's government is now irrelevant. In case you were not aware, the image in question was a camouflage pattern, items which are generally, though not exclusively, developed by government/military agencies (and thus a government work). Aside from Multicam (a privately-developed pattern), and several commercial hunting camouflage patterns in the United States, I am unaware of camouflage patterns being subject to copyright

The particular image was from elsewhere as I recall, however. Due to it being nothing more than a reproduction of a geometric pattern (the original camouflage pattern) however, no copyright claim should be valid on the (now deleted) file in question. That is my understanding (which may be mistaken, but nevertheless, that is my understanding) of the copyright issue here.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 00:20, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

A country ceasing to exist does not affect the copyright status of a work. In some countries, works made for the government are copyrighted by the individual authors. In those countries, nothing changes at all: the person who was the copyright holder before the political change remains the copyright holder after the change. In other countries, the copyright lies with the government. When the country ceases to exist, some other country or region takes over the former country's properties, including copyrights. --Stefan2 (talk) 14:49, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Hoffmann images

Please note that every image I uploaded was under the free use rationale. Some of these images have been overwritten with PD Hoffmann rationale applied. I am not an expert on this matter and would follow guidance by those more knowledgeable on the topic. I think it would be better if you take up your concerns with those Users who applied the Hoffmann rationale. Can you point me to the source for your reasoning? Thanks MisterBee1966 (talk) 18:35, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

As a general comment, it would have been best if you had bundled all these nominations in some way, as it's really hard for other editors to comment on what's basically a group nomination given the way you've done this. Is there some way to centralise this discussion? Regards, Nick-D (talk) 11:36, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

I posted a question here. MisterBee1966 (talk) 11:44, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

I'll answer at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history#Heinrich Hoffmann Images. --Stefan2 (talk) 13:18, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

File:Joppen1907India1805a.jpg

For some reason I am no longer being credited in the Commons version of File:Joppen1907India1805a.jpg. Could you remedy this? Thanks. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 03:13, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

OK, Never mind. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 03:15, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

For your information: The user who copied the file to Commons has nominated it for deletion at Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Joppen1907India1805a.jpg. You might wish to comment there. --Stefan2 (talk) 14:10, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

File:Invitation for Rahmatullah Durrani for Quaid-e-Azam Civic address.jpeg

and File:Invitation for Rehmatullah Durrani for Duaid-e-Azam Civic address 15-6-1948.jpg, and File:Invitation to Rehmatullah Durrani for Quaid-e-Azam Civic address 15-6-1948.jpg , Hi Stefan, the owner of the work is not alive, and there are more then fifty years has been past about the creation of this work , therefore as per policy and rules of Wikipedia the said file can be aired, --Jogazai 00:58, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia uses United States copyright law. Under United States copyright law, a photo taken in 1948 normally enters the public domain 95 years after it was published. It does not matter if the photographer is alive or not. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:16, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Your notifications.

You are giving me speedy deletion notifications of images I did not upload.—cyberpower ^Chat_Online 15:17, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Your bot has been creating the pages. Ryan Vesey 15:49, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Crap. I keep forgetting about that badinage task. I think an exception should be installed in twinkle to prevent me from getting spammed for every bad image that is deleted.—cyberpower ^Chat_Online 16:02, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

By the way, there seems to be a bug in your bot. I tagged all of the pages for F2 yesterday, but today I saw that your bot had recreated the pages, so I tagged them again. It seems that you only check MediaWiki:Bad image list, but you should probably also check that the image really exists before adding {{badimage}}. MediaWiki:Bad image list doesn't always seem to be up-to-date with the latest file deletions. --Stefan2 (talk) 16:36, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

The bot assumes it exists if it is on the list. It needs to be removed from the list. I don't have access to my computer now and won't have access for a while, so I can't do much.—cyberpower ^Chat_Online 16:50, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

The bot should probably be blocked until you have access then. The bot should not be creating pages. Would it be feasible for the bot to remove images that don't exist from the list? Or create another list asking admins to remove those images from the list? Ryan Vesey 16:55, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

The list at MediaWiki:Bad image list is supposed to be maintained by User:ListManBot. However, that bot doesn't seem to be running. Commons:File:Erect small5.jpg was deleted from Commons on 22 August but is still present at MediaWiki:Bad image list. --Stefan2 (talk) 19:40, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

File:Seganomad.jpg

Exactly what's wrong with converting the edit summary information into the information template? -- 76.65.131.248 (talk) 10:47, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

I have replied at File talk:Seganomad.jpg. --13:53, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Policy for second album cover

Hello. At Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2012 August 30#File:LiveCowPalaceBonusDisc.jpg, the image has been deleted, and the discussion has been closed. Here is the discussion that took place:

Invalid FUR--substantially similar to main album cover —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 12:39, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Keep – This is the album cover image for the bonus disc, not for the main album, and both the bonus disc and the main album are covered by the article. Just as the main album cover uniquely identifies the main album, this image uniquely identifies the bonus disc, and, like any other album cover, is critical to the readers' understanding of the subject. Whether or not it's substantially similar to the main album cover (and it's not) is therefore not relevant here. To have two, and only two, album cover images in this article does not violate fair use, and substantially increases the value of the article for the reader. — Mudwater^(Talk) 11:51, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Delete The bonus disc and the main album have almost identical covers. Besides, the bonus disc isn't discussed critically. --Stefan2 (talk) 19:42, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
- Reply – This is the article about the album, which includes both the main album and the bonus disc. So the album has two covers, the one for the main album and the one for the bonus disc. Critical discussion of the bonus disc album cover is therefore not needed to qualify for fair use in this article -- see my "keep" comment above. For these same reasons, it doesn't matter if the two album covers are completely different or somewhat similar, or even "almost identical", as you think this one is and I don't. — Mudwater^(Talk) 21:00, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
  - Um, no. Critical commentary is not needed to include one cover. However, in this case, you are including two covers, which is a different thing. Critical commentary is needed for supporting the use of multiple covers. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:45, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
    - Could you please provide a link to the guideline that says that? It seems to me that this is similar to, but not exactly the same as, the case of an album with an alternate cover. In this case, the article is about two very strongly associated albums, the main one and the bonus disc, that each have their own cover. In the other case, alternate covers, which are widely accepted on Wikipedia for use in album articles, one album is known by two (or possibly even more than two) different covers. So I believe that in both cases, including this one, critical commentary on the second cover is not required, because the second cover, like the first, uniquely identifies the album, is extremely useful to the reader, and is not replaceable by text or by a free image. That's definitely fair use, but if there's a Wikipedia guideline against it, I'd like to see it. Thanks. — Mudwater^(Talk) 00:32, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

If you could provide a link to the guideline, I'd appreciate it. As someone who edits album articles, I'd like to be aware of the Wikipedia standards in this area. Thanks. (If you reply here, I will see what you say.) — Mudwater^(Talk) 11:36, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Logos

Since you are deleting every Olympic bid logo file, and they cannot be displayed in tables, I would like to ask you to delete the past logos of Microsoft. They are ineligible for non-free media criteria, under the same circumstances you presented to delete the Olympic bid logos. Regards; Felipe Menegaz 15:50, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi! I suggest that you read the article Threshold of originality and look at the examples at Commons:COM:TOO#United States. The Microsoft logos are just text typeset in a standard font, so they don't attract any copyright protection. The first logo, File:Microsoft Logo Historical.svg, is debatable, but it is an American logo and was published as part of this advertisement without a copyright notice before 1989, so it is in the public domain anyway. Most US pre-1989 logos are in the public domain because they have usually been published in advertisements, on products or elsewhere without a copyright notice. --Stefan2 (talk) 14:34, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Nice catch

I just wanted to drop a note that this was a nice catch. There was barely any history there so I didn't think to check before tagging it. ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 00:16, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes, but that was rejected citing WP:PV. A bit hard to see at first. --Stefan2 (talk) 14:36, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Oh well. I moved that history to Nintendo game cube to preserve it, and retagged the redirect with db-move, and it looks like someone already moved it. Thanks again for even noticing that there was relevant history there. ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 19:27, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Dean hall game designer at gamescom Aug 2012.jpg

Hi there, You posted a note about the photo that I uploaded. I copied and pasted the template from other photos, I don't know what the reference to the site is. The photo is a custom one taken at the conference, so i am not sure of next steps? Canwin87 (talk) 21:04, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

The image appears elsewhere on the Internet, credited to Audun Rodem. If you are Audun Rodem, please prove this by following the instructions at WP:IOWN. If you are not Audun Rodem, please ask him to give permission using the instructions at WP:CONSENT. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:13, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

File:Darwin's Soldiers image.jpg

This image was deleted because I need further permission. Here is a thread where I will be gaining permission shortly: http://gangoffive.net/index.php?showtopic=11484&st=0#entry22008712

(I am LettuceBacon&Tomato; I previously had gotten permission from Serris via PM, which I understand I can not prove right now. That's why I'm getting this in a public thread.)

Once those two post their permission in this thread (which I know they will) will that be enough to have the picture restored? --Ye Olde Luke (talk) 02:48, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Files need to be available under a licence which allows you to do almost anything with the image. Basically, it needs to comply with the definition at freedomdefined:Definition. Normally, this is handled by making the image available under a specific free licence such as the GNU Free Documentation Licence or the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike licence, which fulfil all of the requirements in the definition.

"Mumbling" wrote: "You have our permission to use Gang of Five posts, so long they are not harmful in any way." Many people regard JSLint as having a too restricted licence because the software licence states that the software only may be used for good but not for evil, and the part about "harmful" things looks restricted in the same way.

Other people simply wrote that they give permission. What do they give permission to? Using the image under the licence specified by the uploader, or only for hosting it on Wikipedia? (Hint: The former is what is needed.) --Stefan2 (talk) 22:04, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

I have posted a request for more specific permission from those in the thread, and when the image is restored (or I have to reupload it) I plan to do so under the GNU Free Documentation License. Once they follow the instructions in my latest post, will that be enough to get the image restored? --Ye Olde Luke (talk) 00:50, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

The relevant users have re-posted their specific approval in the thread link already provided. I plan to reupload the image tonight under the GNU Free Documentation License. Are there any problems that still need to be dealt with? --Ye Olde Luke (talk) 21:48, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: File:Grave plaque Finch Hatton.jpg

Hello Stefan2. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of File:Grave plaque Finch Hatton.jpg, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not the same image. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 03:40, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Argh, sorry. --Stefan2 (talk) 21:49, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Image rationales

Hey Stefan2,

I've provided better sourcing for the two images I uploaded. Wanted to see if I've now sourced them correctly: Gestation Stall Image and Finishing Farm. Thanks, Kkirkham (talk) 13:55, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

The images are now in use, so it is obvious that they should be deleted as replaceable. Anyone could visit one of those farms and take a photo of them. --Stefan2 (talk) 21:47, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

I think you meant to say the images are "not" in use. I'm currently trying to get them added to the Smithfield Foods article, but as an employee I didn't want to add them myself, so we are discussing it on the talk page first. That's why they are currently not used in any articles. Also, someone could drive by the farm and take a photo of the outside, but the farms are private property and are not open to the public, so these shots could not be garnered that way. Kkirkham (talk) 14:11, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Clark Brands

I have no problems with the deletion of File:Clark Brands (original logo).jpg (which is not marked for deletion) and File:Clark Brands logo (1987).jpg (which is marked), as I have replaced both of them with identical SVG images (which resize easily as opposed to JPG images that don't). Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) (talk) 22:41, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

BAGBot: Your bot request Stefan2bot

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User:Diannaa/Problematic images

Hi, Stefan2! Thanks so much for your help setting up the investigation into the problematic uploads by Mariaflores et al. I have added some introductory information to the sub-page I created. If you have time, I was wondering if you could look it over and see if I made any mistakes on the sequence of events or left out any important facts? Thanks. -- Dianna (talk) 19:14, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

It said that you should check Flickr, but there was no link to the Flickr account, so I added one. The Flickr account only seems to be useful for photos of royalty and not for photos of Nazis or military.

According to this discussion, User:CommonsDelinker is buggy. It seems that that CommonsDelinker will delink File:Adalbertprinceofbavaria.jpg from English Wikipedia articles upon deletion from Commons even though there is a local copy of the image. We need to watch those articles and revert CommonsDelinker if necessary. --Stefan2 (talk) 20:09, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Okay. I have also been inserting the names of various Nazis into the search field on Flickr in hopes of getting hits on copies of Nazi postcards. No hits yet. By the way, I was browsing through the talk pages of the three accounts, and couldn't help but notice that they have received literally hundreds of notifications over the years that their uploads were problematic. Yet they chose to ignore the warnings, and continued to upload images in violation of Wikipedia policy and copyright law. If they turn up again with a new sock, I will be asking for a formal ban. Thanks again for helping, and for all your good work helping to maintain and monitor our image collections. -- Dianna (talk) 20:21, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Request to review a recently uploaded image

Hello, I recently uploaded this image to Wikimedia commons, using information you provided me. I believe it is ready to go, but as it had been deleted once in the past due to insufficient source citations, I would just like verification that I have provided enough information so that it meets Wikipedia standards for inclusion. Thanks for your help. --Ye Olde Luke (talk) 05:40, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Looks fine to me from a copyright point of view, but this kind of images are better suited for PNG format. See the article Compression artefact for details. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:18, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

AS per your request, I have reuploaded it as a PNG (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Darwin%27s_Soldiers_image.png) Thank you! --Ye Olde Luke (talk) 00:35, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Request to review a recently uploaded image

Hello, I uploaded several images to the S-FRAME wikipedia page that are free to be used in any capacity by anyone anywhere, I may have mislabelled them when I uploaded them and that is why I believe you labelled them copyright. How do I get them back without re-uploading them and risk getting blocked? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by N.Tagge (talk • contribs) 08:33, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

I can't find any evidence that S-FRAME is free software. See Commons:COM:SS#Software. --Stefan2 (talk) 14:10, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Hi Stefan

I see that you have requested for deletion of file Shell Helix under non-fair use policy. I wish to thank you and inform you that I am working in Shell Pakistan. Please be assured that the image used is in our Annual Report 2011 and since its a high resolution image only people in Corporate Affairs have access to it.

Thanks again for your concern

Hirah Javaid 10:39, 21 September 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Engr hirah (talk • contribs)

I think that you should send evidence of ownership to OTRS. See WP:IOWN for instructions. --Stefan2 (talk) 14:05, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

File:A View of Baramulla .JPG

Don't forget to file a Deletion Request at Commons. :) Thanks . Sfan00 IMG (talk) 12:20, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

I did of course also tag that copy with Commons:Template:Copyvio. ☺ --Stefan2 (talk) 14:02, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Permission For Vox logo

Hi Stefan2, thanks for pointing out that I did not provide permission evidence for the logo image usage of Vox. I am the original owner of this image and I have now included a description of usage by Creative Commons CC-BY-SA at the source of the image, see this link http://www.indiedb.com/games/vox/images/screenshot#imagebox and the left hand description for proof. Thanks Moondoggy (talk) 18:05, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

It seems that this was sorted out with OTRS. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:13, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

I am negotiating

with the folks who gave me the picture, File:Angel at the Exeter War Memorial.jpg, about copyrights, but I am glad that it stayed long enough to be included in today's DYK. Thanks for your patience, Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 02:28, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

I got this done, sent it off to the wikipedia permission folks and posted a version minus Jon Angel's address & email at the picture. Life moves on. Carptrash (talk) 16:02, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Success Academy Charter Schools logo deletion proposal

I'm puzzled at the proposed deletion for reason of copyright. Since I'm proceeding under fair use, asking the schools organization seems inappropriate or unnecessary. Their home page does not display a copyright notice, but I presume they have the copyright and all other intellectual property interests. I stated the best information I have. While the notice (User talk:Nick Levinson#File copyright problem with File:Success Academy Charter Schools logo.png) discusses verifying the source, I just revisited the schools URL and it's still there. I guess that the fair use rationale is what you're specifically questioning. What is it that I should address? Thank you. Nick Levinson (talk) 21:13, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

See WP:NFCC#10b. You need to pick an appropriate licence template from the list at WP:ICT/FU. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:12, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Solved (and if it's not, please let me know). Thanks. Nick Levinson (talk) 22:43, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Wow

So I just placed back the "copyright tag" and now you are trying to delete the picture.

I don't care if it doesn't hold up to your standards, I put those pictures so the articles will not be empty. --SuperHotWiki (talk) 18:19, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

File:Joseph McElroy, Ancient History, cover.jpg: what is the problem?

You tagged this image, but as I explained on its talk page two days ago, the image seems to be within WP:FU guidelines. Clarification desired, preferably on the file's talk page.Choor monster (talk) 20:33, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Too many pixels. See Category:Rescaled fairuse files more than 7 days old#Instructions. --Stefan2 (talk) 21:29, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

OK, many thanks. I fixed the image, you replaced the template. I intend to upload more covers as I create more articles. They will of course all match this one in reduced size and quality. Is there some template I should stick in, or should I let people like you do it? A link to any got-it-right-the-first time book cover suffices.Choor monster (talk) 13:38, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Leave me alone

You're not a boss here. --SuperHotWiki (talk) 13:30, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm just reporting policy violations. See WP:NFCC#8. --Stefan2 (talk) 13:37, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Its not "just" you are reporting policy violations but you have a HOBBY here of deleting pictures that could help improve the articles! --SuperHotWiki (talk) 13:39, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Friendly request

Do NOT edit war with me. It is NOT a speedy deletion until consensus has been reached. I am going to undo your change, do not revert it or I will report your antagonistic behaviour. If you want to help, then answer in a less confrontational manner on the talk page. Please be constructive and not destructive in your time on wikipedia. Ruining other wikipedians work and wasting their time is neither big nor clever.

Py0alb (talk) 15:06, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

It is a speedy deletion since it is such a blatant violation of WP:NFCC. --Stefan2 (talk) 15:09, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

If its so blatant, how come you can't come up with a coherent reason why on the talk page? I refuted all the spurious and innacurate reasons you suggested and you haven't even been polite enough to bother to respond. Py0alb (talk) 15:12, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Beltran Masses Photos

As I already clearly stated when uploading the images in the boxes provided, my gallery of which I am the owner), is the owner of the photographic images of the paintings, and the owner of the paintings, which I used in editing the entry on Beltran Masses. Because of the annoying questions that have arisen in the past when I have used images that belonged to me, I made this absolutely clear. Did you actually bother to read the messages I put in those boxes? Did you not read that I stated this very clearly? I have more or less given up correcting the vast quantities of false or inaccurate information on wikipedia because of the extra work this kind of complaint then leads to. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GuyStairSainty (talk • contribs) 18:30, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Photos uploaded by me to the Beltran Masses entry.

As I stated when I did so, these photos and the paintings belong to me. The artist died in 1949. I can do what I like with these photos and I chose - I thought helpfully - to include them as they are famous examples of this artist's work in my expanded article on the artist.

These paintings are all right now in my London gallery, awaiting exhibition. GuyStairSainty (talk) 18:40, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

The copyright to a painting belongs to the painter (or in this case his heirs), not to the one who happens to own the actual painting. --Stefan2 (talk) 19:52, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

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Infantry Combat Badge

Im not sure how taking a picture of a badge with my ipod camera on a white piece of paper can contain a derivative work. Regards Nford24 (Want to have a chat?) 13:09, 26 September 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nford24 (talk • contribs)

You only took the photo of the badge but didn't make the badge yourself, right? The photo violates the copyright of the badge. See Commons:COM:DW. --Stefan2 (talk) 13:29, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Lakewood BlueClaws Logos

I've added more team logos to expand the history of the BlueClaws which I am a fan of the team. The logos listed are the same exact form as the team goes by. I even added reliable sources too. The Cape Fear Crocs logos were from the Cape Fear Crocs page which I redirected to the BlueClaws page because it is the same team/franchise. I didn't upload the Crocs logos. The Bull Durham poster is from the movie page and I didn't upload that either. If you delete the logos encluding the Cape Fear Crocs logos than you mind as well delete the Fayetteville Generals logos too. I am expanding the history of the team thats all. Silvercoindinerman (talk) 22:51, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

The problem is that you can't use non-free images in galleries. See WP:NFG. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:58, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Than how do you get permission. Silvercoindinerman (talk) 23:01, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

See WP:CONSENT. --Stefan2 (talk) 23:04, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

How about give me a summary because I don't have time to process the WP:CONSENT info right now and where do you post it at on the your own talk page. Silvercoindinerman (talk) 23:09, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

You ask the person at the club who is responsible for intellectual property to send an e-mail to OTRS. --Stefan2 (talk) 17:02, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Just delete the logos already. You forgot to tag the Fayetteville Generals logos so I had to do it myself. Silvercoindinerman (talk) 19:17, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

NFUR review

Might prove useful, pages tagged with the {{Non-free use rationale}}(or the templates that call it) will be handled by a bot, but it's the NFUR's that aren't templated that need careful review. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 13:27, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

That category contains about half of all non-free files, so it currently doesn't seem to be very useful. If a bot cleans it up, it might become more useful. --Stefan2 (talk) 13:38, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Question about deletion

Stefan, thank you for your help.

I have a question concerning a deletion. I followed your useful instructions and forwarded the emails to permissions-enwikimedia.org from the creator/owner of the photo within 2 days after receiving the email, well within the 7 day time limit.

[This message is about the info I received concerning the following notification.]

:Notification: tagging for deletion of . (TW)"

Because I forwarded the emails (that gave specific permission to use the photo and stated public domain) to the correct address, as instructed, I don't understand why the photo was deleted.

What do you suggest that I now do so the photo appears on the page and not be deleted?

Should I upload the photo again and again send the letter of permission to the wiki permission email?

Or should I walk the owner of the photo through the process (which may be a challenge for them to learn) and have them send their own permission to put the photo into public domain?

Thanks again for your assistance.

Sbjohnson (talk) 18:43, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Are you sure that you sent the e-mail to permissions-enwikimedia.org as indicated in the instructions? In the message above, there is a typo in the e-mail address: you forgot the

sign! --Stefan2 (talk) 17:04, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Photo marked for deletion

I uploaded a photo titled Freck Langsam DVD Cover, which you marked for deletion because it is not in use in an article. It was uploaded for the article Freck Langsam, which is waiting to be reviewed. If you would please not delete it, it will be in use shortly. Ducksfan0807 (talk) 21:42, 29 September 2012 (UTC)