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    October 23

    Spacing in tables

    Hi, does anyone know how to add more "cell padding" when using the "class=wikitable" table format? In other words, I want to change this:

    A B
    C D

    into this:

    A B
    C D

    but using the "wikitable" thing. 86.171.43.215 (talk) 01:29, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    "cellpadding" has been deprecated in the HTML standard, it should have never existed to begin with. Padding should always be done with CSS. I'm not sure if Wikipedia has a class for padding wikitable cells but you can do this for now:
    {| class="wikitable"
    | style="padding:1em" | A
    | style="padding:1em" | B
    |}
    It produces this:
    A B
    Scarce2 (talk) 09:10, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks. I'd really prefer not have to specify it separately for every cell. That does not seem a good way to do it at all. The thing about "cell padding" is that it applies to the whole table. However if that's the only way to do it.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.160.208.15 (talk) 11:20, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Sunil Gangopadyay passed away today please update

    Sunil Gangopadhyay (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

    Mr Sunil Ganguly,the famous bengali poet & writer, passed away today.Kindly update.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.184.101.14 (talk) 02:01, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you for letting us know - but we'd need to see a published source for this before updating the article. I'll see if I can locate anything myself, but if it has been reported, let us know where. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:03, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    justin p wilson

    The family portion of your article for JUSTIN P WILSON is incoreect and decieving--- Justin is married to barbara englehardt but THEY ONLY HAVE TWO SONS. JUSTIN'S OTHER TWO SONS ARE FROM HIS FIRST MARRIAGE-- HIS FIRST WIFE IS NAMED DONNA DANNER WILSON AND THEY HAVE TWO SONS TOGETHER. PLEASE CORRECT THIS STATEMENT. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The texts (talkcontribs)

    First, please, there's no need to shout. Second, the source says that he has four sons but isn't more descriptive of who gave birth to those children. So, I've changed the text to reflect that. If you can provide another reliable source that clarifies whose children they all are, we could include that info. And finally, the article is editable by anyone. You could have made this correction yourself. If you'd like more info on that, please see Help:Contents/Editing Wikipedia. Thanks for pointing out the need for a correction, Dismas|(talk) 03:37, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    User:HAMISHRB

    Hi, this user HAMISHRB vandalized the article Batman: Earth One yesterday. Thought you might want to know.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 07:24, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    You can place warnings on user talk pages yourself. See WP:MLT. Then other people who might see this person vandalize again will be able to see that they have done it before and been warned about it. - Purplewowies (talk) 07:46, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Template

    Hello, I haven't edited on Wikipedia for a long time so I nearly forget something:

    I want to create a template with a part like this

    *Search on {{{wikipedia|}}}

    but how can I made the part "*search on" also disappear if "wikipedia=" are empty?-- talk-contributions 08:48, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    {{#if:{{{wikipedia|}}}|Search on {{{wikipedia}}}}} Scarce2 (talk) 09:02, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    20000leagues under the sea film

    The organist playing the organ music in the film was E Power Briggs David Marquis — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.26.93.165 (talk) 10:20, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    If you have a reliable sources for this information, you are very welcome to add it to any relevant article. I suspect you mean E. Power Biggs (not Briggs) - and make sure you get the right one of the six films listed at Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea (disambiguation). (Note that IMDB is not generally reckoned as reliable). --ColinFine (talk) 11:26, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Asking about what initials stand for

    I put on the talk page of the article on Alison Krauss, shouldn't it be said that she performs religious songs such as "Down to the River to Pray"? Another Wikipedian responded with the comment "IMHO I wouldn't call that a religious song. My query here was simply what IMHO stands for. I was thinking, literally just now, it probably stands for "In my humble opinion" - am I correct? Thank you in advance for any feedback at all. All the very best, ACEOREVIVED (talk) 10:41, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Yep, in common internet parlance, IMHO = in my humble opinion. IIRC. Yunshui  10:43, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    (If I Recall Correctly) Yunshui  10:43, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    And before common internet parlance, it was common fanzine parlance – I first saw it in 1982. —Tamfang (talk) 16:51, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Surveillance Detection Unit

    Actually it started in May of 1999, not in 2000. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.116.22.54 (talk)

    Surveillance Detection Unit says: "In the year 2000, at least 22 United States (US) embassies and consulates...", and "Since 2000, former leaders of the police force of Oslo...". What exactly started in 1999 and do you have a reliable source that it started there? PrimeHunter (talk) 13:12, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Bot source code list

    Do we have a list of all bots on Wikipedia that have their source code published? If yes, where can I find it? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlkctb) 12:18, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    It probably isn't complete but we have Category:Wikipedia bots with source code published. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:59, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlkctb) 13:02, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I want to upload an image of box art for an article on a PC game. I contacted the publisher of a game and they directed me to their press pack which contains a suitable image. However I am confused by the wikipedia categorisation of images copyright. I simply do not know what category this image would come under. Can anyone tell me? it must be common to all PC Game box art. --AeronwenTrewent (talk) 12:18, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I think I misread the question in the first reply -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlkctb) 13:26, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Difficult to give an explicit answer. There is Category:Video game covers, but generally a better categorization might be possible. I can't give a better answer without knowing of which game. Also generally the image is copyrighted and thus regarded as non-free content on Wikipedia. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlkctb) 12:26, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Sorry, I think I misread your question. By categorisation of images copyright, do you mean the license under which the image will / must be uploaded to Wikipedia? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlkctb) 13:00, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    An image of a game cover will almost always be copyrighted, which means you have to upload it to Wikipedia (not Wikimedia Commons) under a claim of fair use. Such an image has to satisfy a number of criteria which need to be met, listed at Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria. If you can't make heads or tails of it, let me know and I can take a look at where you get stuck. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlkctb) 13:19, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    vanished web page

    Hello, Sorry, I don't know who else to write to for assistance. An article about me, Molly Cutpurse, has vanished. I am a popular author of twenty-four novels. Can you help please or pass me on to someone who can? Molly — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.246.140.207 (talk) 12:35, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    If you click on the red link Molly Cutpurse it will tell you "01:06, 21 September 2012 RHaworth (talk | contribs) deleted page Molly Cutpurse (A7: Article about an eligible subject, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject)". Wikipedia:Notability (people) will tell you about Wikipedia's requirements for notability for an article about a person, and WP:BLP refers specifically to biographies of living people. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:43, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    There's also a specific inclusion guideline for authors at WP:AUTHOR, for what it's worth. However, self-published authors are almost never notable enough for articles here. Yunshui  12:53, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    David Bolduc

    Good Morning,

    My first article User:syrinxia/david bolduc got reviewed by Go Phightins! and was declined, so i followed his advice and made changes.

    I re submitted my updated article and it got reviewed by SarahStierch who declined it as well and deleted it! Her comments where that i used copyright, anything used in the article i have written authorization for and also she did not tell me what she thought was copy right part. The thing that upset me the most was that she deleted the whole article! Can someone help me and tell me why it was deleted and how i can get it back to improve it. I can not understand the specifications, i have looked up many wiki articles regarding artists and mine fits all the criterias.

    Also, when i do a wiki search on David Bolduc this comes up : User:Syrinxia/David Bolduc - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Syrinxia/David_Bolduc If anything should be deleted, should be this weird post that was created by me a couple of years ago that for some reason is online and i never had it submitted for review.

    Thank you in advance for your help, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Syrinxia (talkcontribs) 13:16, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    You should only include content you created by yourself on Wikipedia or from public domain resources. I suggest you rewrite the article without using content copied from another source and consider asking SarahStierch to restore your page as a user subpage. She probably deleted it instead of doing this before because it contained copyrighed content. Scarce2 (talk) 13:37, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you for your help. I feel hopeless with this.. I do not know how to contact her, i go to her page and there is no where to post a comment. Can you help me please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Syrinxia (talkcontribs) 14:17, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Note that Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/David Bolduc was deleted not by User:SarahStierch, but by User:Vejvančický, because of copyright violation from http://www.ccca.ca/bios/bolduc_bio.html. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:05, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    User:Syrinxia/David Bolduc is what's called a user subpage. This what Scarce2 is talking about above. User subpages are a useful place to draft articles or keep notes, but once created they don't get deleted automatically. If you want rid of it, add the code {{db-g7}} at the top. This requests that the page be speedily deleted by an administrator under criterion G7 (you're the author, nobody else has edited it significantly, and you don't want it anymore). However, if you want to redraft your article that page is the obvious place to do it, so you might want to keep the page and and reuse it.
    User:Vejvančický was the admin who deleted your article. To communicate with another user, you leave messages on their User talk page, not their user page. So, go to User talk:Vejvančický and leave a message by editing that page exactly as you have edited this one, complete with a header. Wikipedia does not permit any text that violates someone else's copyright anywhere on the site, whether in articles or userspace, but you may be able to get the non-copyright material back to work on.
    One thing - you say you have "written authorization" for the material in your article. That rings a few alarm bells here. What exactly has been authorised, and by whom? If you are writing on behalf of David Bolduc, please read WP:COI. People shouldn't write about themselves or people they are close to on Wikipedia, and people who are the subject of Wikipedia articles have no direct control over the content - they cannot "authorise" it. If what you mean is that you have authorisation from a copyright holder to reuse their work verbatim in a Wikipedia article, then there's a process to go through. The copyright holder must contact Wikipedia personally to release the material under a licence that will allow other people to take it and reuse it in turn. See Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. It can be done, but unless it's absolutely essential for some reason to use the copyrighted material unchanged, it's much simpler just to write an article entirely in your own words, citing the copyright material as the source of your information. This is explained at Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners. - Karenjc 16:54, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]


    President Obama

    Disgraceful to spell his name OBANGO !!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.206.89.97 (talk) 13:25, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Please give a link to where you see "OBANGO". The only occurrence I can find of that string in Wikipedia is the unrelated "Tango from Obango" in Vienna Art Orchestra. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:34, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    The only connection of that term I found via Google is at Yahoo! Answers here. To the OP: Please note that this is a help page of Wikipedia and we have no connection with Yahoo!. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlkctb) 13:53, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Inuktitut syllabics / Google Chrome

    I've been trying to get Inuktitut syllabics to display in Gogole Chrome. I run the latest version of Chrome (Version 22.0.1229.94m) in Windows XP. I've downloaded and installed all the fonts that seem relevant at Help:Multilingual support... but I still boxes where I should be seeing letters! What do I need to do? Tompw (talk) (review) 15:19, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm running the same version of Google Chrome but on Windows Vista, and Inuktitut syllabics display just fine. A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 15:31, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    "Edit saved"

    Today, though not in previous days, I'm getting the floating "edit saved" notice when I hit Preview and sometimes when I hit Edit, which would seem to defeat the purpose of alerting newer users as to which mode they're in. I'm not getting it when I hit Save. Is this happening to anyone else, or is it a quirk of my aging computer's increasingly quirky personality? Cynwolfe (talk) 15:54, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    That's not something I've experienced myself so far. In which browser does this happen? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlkctb) 16:04, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    See Wikipedia:VPT#Small_new_feature_coming_on_Thursday, that is a better place to ask the question. GB fan 16:18, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Audio Player

    What codec do I install to play audio in Wikipedia? Thanks, Joe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jgaldo12 (talkcontribs) 16:19, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    There's a list at Wikipedia:Media help (Ogg), but that page may not be up to date. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:26, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    To play audio on an article requires no codex. It requires a modern open browser such as Firefox, Opera, Maxthon or Chrome. Regards, Sun Creator(talk) 05:45, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Title in italics

    Homosexual behavior in animals is an article title in italics, but the article title is not the title of a book or something else. How to get rid of the italics style? Lova Falk talk 17:24, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    It is fixed now, but I am unclear what caused it to be fixed. Astronaut (talk) 17:48, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) The italic style, together with the inclusion of the page in a couple of inappropriate categories, and some garbled entries in the list of references, were the result of an editor using "{{journal ..." and "{{book ..." where he presumably intended "{{cite journal ..." and "{{cite book ...". I've corrected the ones I found, & will let the editor know. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:50, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you! Lova Falk talk 18:18, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    slander

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_Hills_Eastern_High_School. It says clearly that Encyclopedic content must be verifiable. None of the first paragraph on this page is verifiable. We are NOT the worst school in 8 yrs, we do NOT have gangs, smart kids are NOT harrassed (1/2 the school would be harrassed), and NO legal action is going on. Where is they proof for this post? Looks like Jenison has chip on their shoulder. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.43.59.203 (talk) 18:18, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Forest Hills Eastern High School (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
    I have undone today's edits and placed a warning at User talk:68.42.218.247. Thank you for reporting this. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:25, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Someone deleted this page ...

    Hi ~ could someone tell me why this page was deleted? and by whom? ... I went to see what had been talked about on the talk page, but that was also deleted. Last I looked, the voting was 4.8 average to keep. Can someone explain? Thanks!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Black_Nativity_-_In_Concert:_A_Gospel_Celebration&action=edit&redlink=1

    Music4ibc (talk) 18:46, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Black Nativity – In Concert: A Gospel Celebration. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:52, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Article Feedback Tool ratings are not used to determine whether to keep or delete an article. PleaseStand (talk) 22:50, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    The formatting at Mitra (gastropod) has a large amount of unneeded white space. I assume it has to do with the interaction of the columns and infobox, but not sure how to fix it without removing one or the other. Can someone smarter with code take a peek? -- Khazar2 (talk) 20:04, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    As it happens, I just accidentally created the same issue by adding an image to Mylabris, so perhaps it's the combination of infobox, image, and columns. Still not sure how to fix it, though. -- Khazar2 (talk) 20:10, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    What browser are you using to view these pages? Have a look at the warning at Template:Div col. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:11, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Google Chrome. Do you mean you're not seeing a half-page of white space? -- Khazar2 (talk) 20:14, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Huh. Opened in Firefox and it's not an issue. Still, I wonder if there's a way to fix the coding here so it displays properly for users of Chrome and IE also? -- Khazar2 (talk) 20:15, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    What exactly do you mean when you say it "has a large amount of unneeded white space"? It looks fine for me in Safari. In Internet Explorer 8, however all the bullet points are aligned at the left side of the page. I believe this is because IE8 does not support columns, according to the information at WP:REFCOLS, none of the versions of Internet Explorer below 10 support columns. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlkctb) 20:29, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, like I said, I'm using Google Chrome. There's a long gap of white space between the sentence "According to the World Register of Marine Species, the following species with accepted names are included within the genus Mitra:" and the columns which list species names, which begin well down the page, in line with the first image (Mitra (Strigatella) paupercula). (The columns are showing up, they're just starting much, much further down the page). If it's not showing up on other browsers, though, it's probably not a big deal. -- Khazar2 (talk) 20:38, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I am using Google Chrome, and seeing what Khazar2 describes. Maproom (talk) 22:23, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    The list of Mitra species is headed with {{div col|colwidth=20em}}; I can understand that, if the width of your window is such that there's less than 20em between the left margin and the infobox, a browser might legitimately refuse to try to fit the column in there. —Tamfang (talk) 05:05, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm using Chrome as well. If I change the display size by one tick (ctrl-mouse wheel one position) it moves all three columns up and closes the white space. I guess this is legitimate, and not an error, still anything that can be done?Naraht (talk) 11:26, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't see anything that would be a problem with IE9.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:59, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Moving a particular portion from edit history to new article

    I regularly check and fix articles with dablink Bengali (since this is mother tongue. Today I found the link Astra there. I fixed the dablink and saw the article has more issues like uncategorized, no lead etc. I started fixing those too.
    After making 4-5 edits I discovered the article is created on an existing article. In short, a Bengali film is released on 19 October, this year and someone has turned the dabpage into film article.
    I have restored to last good version I have found.
    Now, I want to move that anonymous editor's edits (and my minor copyedits) too to a new article. I can copy paste content to new article, but, that'll show I am article creator. Mentioning in edit summary does not seem to be a good idea. Any suggestion? -Tito Dutta (talk) 23:13, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I think there's a good chance that the film isn't notable. However, if you find sources that show otherwise, you should request a history split at Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen. I'm not an administrator, so I can't merge or split article histories myself.
    A history split, just like a history merge, would involve temporarily deleting the page. Then only the revisions of the new article would be undeleted, and the page would be moved to the new article's proper title without leaving a redirect. Then only the revisions of the disambiguation page would be undeleted. I think the IP's initial revision (of 14:55, 23 October 2012) could just be left deleted. PleaseStand (talk) 00:32, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I have asked there. Thanks! --Tito Dutta (talk) 09:00, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    volume

    Can you turn up the volume of the file File:Fr-Normandie-badminton.ogg please ? Fête (talk) 23:20, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Download Audacity (audio editor) and edit there. I do not have the software in my computer now. --Tito Dutta (talk) 23:25, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    caisse

    Can you record the pronunciation of the word caisse with an Quebec accent ? Fête (talk) 23:29, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    It has already been recorded and added to the word's entry on our sister site Wiktionary. I have linked there from our Caisse disambiguation page. PleaseStand (talk) 23:44, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Cite book with multiple volumes: 2 questions

    1. When citing a book in multiple volumes, but with continuously numbered pages, is it necessary to mention the volume name/number?
    2. When citing a book in multiple volumes, but with no fixed volume names or numbering style, which style is preferred: Roman numerals or Arabic numerals?

    Thanks! Ratzd'mishukribo (talk) 23:30, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Please give a specific example. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 10:08, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Example 1: ha-Ḥasidut mi-dor le-dor (a work that I cite often) has two volumes, but is the pages are numbered continously; that is, volume 2 starts at page 387. If I want to cite page 574, is it necessary to mention that the citation is from volume 2? (This would make footnotes very cumbersome on some pages.)
    2. No example necessary, really - what is the default volume numbering style? Ratzd'mishukribo (talk) 13:38, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I'd go with whatever numbering scheme is on the spine. —Tamfang (talk) 19:55, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    The spine has Hebrew numerals, not very useful for the average reader. Ratzd'mishukribo (talk) 10:43, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm just wondering if a "Print Edition" could me created for some pages, as sometimes it may be helpful to have the option of printing out the information (eg the rules to a game, like Four Square http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_square) so that you take the information somewhere else, in order to put it to use? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Axeliz (talkcontribs) 23:45, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    For a single article, you can either use your web browser's print function or download the article as a PDF file. The PDF file download link is located in the "Print/export" section of the sidebar. If you want to print out other Wikipedia articles as well, you can make a "Wikipedia-Book", which you can either print yourself or have PediaPress professionally print for you. PleaseStand (talk) 00:06, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    You also asked this question at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Print Edition. In the future, try to keep your question in a single place. If you really have to ask in multiple places, at least add links between them. PleaseStand (talk) 00:49, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    October 24

    Looking for someone to produce our article

    We are wishing to produce a wikipedia article on our new type of branded commercial weightloss diet. We have produced some draft information influenced by the Weight Watchers article. Our misssion is to give government regulators and researchers a place to go to to get non commercialised information.

    Our proud mission is to help stop the global obesity epidemic very honestly. As we have no experience with Wikipedia article production we are wondering if their is anyone that would produce it with our assistance? Mayfair101 (talk) 01:27, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    First, realize that Wikipedia is not an advertsing or promotion outlet. If your topic meets the guidelines for being notable (see WP:N), then you can request an article at WP:RA RudolfRed (talk) 01:29, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Uc Merced school colors def.

    What do uc Merced school colors represent and there history? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.87.131.221 (talk) 02:50, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    This page is for questions about editing Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps.. Also the article at UC Merced would be a good start, and it looks like all the UC schools have Blue and Gold as their colors. RudolfRed (talk) 03:24, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Political bias

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Comparison_of_United_States_presidential_candidates,_2012_(2nd_nomination)

    Wikipedia is effectively being used to promote presidential candidates from two political parties while ignoring candidates from other parties. This is a clear political bias. The article in question has been nominated for deletion twice, with a large majority of people voting to delete it, and yet it is not being deleted (not being changed to include the other candidates). The fact that the article remains over the protests of most who want to delete it indicates an intention to perpetrate the bias on the part of Wikipedia.

    Please delete this article now. If it doesn't get deleted, don't be upset when people start spreading the word about Wikipedia promoting political bias--and start using that bias to get Wikipedia URLs banned from public computers in institutions required by law or by institutional policy to maintain political neutrality.

    98.214.33.57 (talk) 04:05, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I would tell you to post at the Article for deletion discussion, but I see you already have. Arguments there and not here will influence the deletion. In order to give time for discussion, however, the deletion discussion will probably go on for a week. —teb728 t c 04:47, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    How to reply to coment on Reference desk

    I'm a newbie, just registered. I posted a question on a Reference Desk page. Someone responded indicating that he/she has some knowledge of the subject. I'd like to reply. How do I continue the thread? I clicked on the edit link but what to do wasn't clear to me. Easy, I'm sure, but not until one knows how. ?? Curious in NYC (talk) 06:51, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Click on the [edit] link next to the relevant section heading, and you should see an edit window containing just that thread. Add your comment at the bottom, using colons to indent your reply; then click the "Save page" button as you did here. If you click the [edit] link here you will see the formatting of my reply. See Help:Using talk pages for more - the help/reference desks use the same conventions as regular talk pages. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:56, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    (EC) Just click the [edit] link to the right of the subject header for your question. On the edit screen, each indentation level is created by a colon (:) at the beginning of the line. Go to the bottom of the section, type as many colons as the answer above plus one, and there you go. It is a good idea to preview your post to make sure you got it correct before finalizing it by clicking Save page.    → Michael J    06:59, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) To continue a conversation (like I am doing now, for example), create a new line, type a colon (:) and start typing! Colons are used for indentation – to keep posts organized. Each colon creates a deeper level of indentation. Here is the code example how this is done:
    == Question title ==
    Your question
    :My answer
    ::Your next question
    :::My next answer
    
    And so on...
    Finally, welcome to Wikipedia and I hope you will want to stay! If you have any further questions, feel free to post them here, at the Teahouse (a place for beginners), or on my talk page. –– Anonymouse321 (talkcontribs) 07:01, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Hebrew: Giv'at

    Hi. Please refer relevant users to Talk:Givat where I've now left a note towards the re-spelling of some mistakefully scripted pages. Regardz, 37.46.40.167 (talk) 10:24, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    If you think any of these pages are misnamed, please see Wikipedia:Requested moves for how you can go about renaming them. --BDD (talk) 18:17, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I have replied on that page (disagreeing with you). But I'm not sure why you posted here. Is there something you want help on? --ColinFine (talk) 18:23, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Redacting edit summaries

    What is the procedure for requesting redaction of edit summaries that contain personal attacks? Roger (talk) 10:41, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Ask your friendly neighbourhood admin. What's the diff? Yunshui  10:47, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks. Posted to your talk page - no need to advertise the insults to the entire world here. Roger (talk) 11:20, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Hidden categories on my user subpage

    I just noticed that a user subpage of my main account, which has user warning templates, is part of ten hidden categories that group pages with some warning templates, like spam and advertising warnings. It isn't really necessary for a page like that to be in these categories, so how do I go about removing the page from them? A sinking boat (make me float!) (Floating Boat's alternate account) 12:41, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Remove all the categories like [[Category:User talk pages with Uw-advert1 notices|{{PAGENAME}}]] from the page. Reaper Eternal (talk) 12:45, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Did it for you. Yunshui  12:55, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    ... or if you want the category links to remain without placing the page in the category, change [[Category:User talk pages with Uw-advert1 notices]] to [[:Category:User talk pages with Uw-advert1 notices]]. The preceding colon makes the difference. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:05, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you, all of you! A sinking boat (make me float!) (Floating Boat's alternate account) 13:36, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Talk page creation/assess

    I need some suggestion on adding talk page headers of (my) newly created articles. I generally don't add talk page headers after creating an article. Any tool, script, gadget to quickly do it or I need to manually type.. {{Wikproject India|importance=low|class=stub|bengal=yes etc --Tito Dutta (talk) 12:56, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    That is a WikiProject template, not a Talk page header, as far as I know you can only add it manually. Roger (talk) 13:25, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Ya, {{Talkheader}} etc too! --Tito Dutta (talk) 13:31, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    {{Talk header}} is for use on pages with discussion issues; see the documentation. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 10:07, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    What does "Userfy" mean?

    Today (October 24 2012) I came across, on a section of Wikipedia, the suggestion that an article should meet with the response of "Userfy". This sounds to me as if it is a neologism created for Wikipedia, but I am just curious to know that "Userfy" means - thank you in advance for any response. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 14:28, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    It means moving the article to Userspace - thus making it an "unpublished" draft. This is done in the case of articles that are not good enough to be on Wikipedia but the problems are not so serious that the article should be deleted - the implication being that the problem(s) can be fixed. See WP:USERFY. Roger (talk) 14:34, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Many thanks for you very quick response, much appreciated! ACEOREVIVED (talk) 14:59, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    For future reference, if you are looking for information on a term that looks as if it has a meaning specific to Wikipedia, it is worth using the Wikipedia search and remembering to specify "Help and Project pages", as in this example. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:06, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    WP:G lists some wiki jargon. Regards.--Tomcat (7) 17:39, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Paul B. Huff

    On the article for Paul B. Huff, I wanted to correct the spelling for the name of the cemetery where he is buried. It should be "Hilcrest" with one "l". My reference is a photograph of the entry to the cemetery that is found at the website FindAGrave.com cemetery listing for Bradley Co, Tennessee. I've messed it up by thinking it would be easy to edit, but now I can't click on anything to correct my mess. If someone could make the correction for me, it would be appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.12.253.66 (talk) 16:14, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Fixed - David Biddulph (talk) 16:29, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Vandalism ?

    I have reverted some recent edits to The Legend of Dragoon by 205.189.94.11 as vandalism; but now I'm not so sure as looking back at the article history over the last couple of months and this IP address (or similiar) has made lots of changes to this article; many have been reverted as unprofessional/vandalism but others have been allowed to stand. Anybody know what to to do about this ? Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 16:49, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't think you have anything to worry about. I looked over your edits, and you haven't done anything wrong. I'm not really sure what this IP is doing, but he or she is at least engaging in unintentional vandalism, such as blanking the reflist. Don't assume all of the IP's contributions will be vandalism, but again, you're not doing anything wrong. A look over the IP's talk page confirms that for me. --BDD (talk) 18:15, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    You can apply for the rollback feature, which allows you to revert all recent revisions by the same user. Regards.--Tomcat (7) 18:19, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Just an FYI - Over the last day or two some edits suffered from a bug that caused large chunks of articles to dissapear when editors save their edits - in few cases I saw everything except the section that the editor was working on had vanished. So these deletions were not intentional. Roger (talk) 10:40, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    corrupted page

    Someone has horribly corrupted the page on the Slinky. I am not sure why some sick individual would do this. Can it be corrected? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.42.120.231 (talk) 16:50, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Don't worry; it was vandalism that has now been reverted. A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 17:02, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Using references that require a subscription

    I know we should try to avoid using references where a subscription is required per WP:PAYWALL. However, if the source is subscription only, can/should we use a quote from the source to help readers with an idea of the source tells us? Astronaut (talk) 17:40, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    You can always use sources which exist behind a paywall without restriction. If two identical or equivalent sources exist, you can and should always include the free source along side the pay source, but there is no prejudice against using a pay-only source if no free equivalent exist. It is the exact same status as print-only sources: if available and equivalent, you can and should include links to online sources, but if not, print-only (and pay-only) sources are perfectly legitimate and perfectly fine. WP:PAYWALL says absolutely nothing at all about avoiding such sources: it says "The principle of verifiability implies nothing about ease of access to sources: some online sources may require payment, while some print sources may be available only in university libraries." In other words, you are under no proscription against using paywalled sources. If you need to access such a source, use WP:REX which is designed exactly for that reason. Short, demonstrative quotes are allowed from any source, where necessary to demonstrate or illustrate a concept. These quotes can appear (with proper attribution) either in text, in a "notes" section, or alongside the specific footnoted reference between the "ref" tags as you see fit, and as the situation calls for. I have included quotes in all of those situations, as needed, and it often isn't directly related to the existance (or not) of any paywall. --Jayron32 17:59, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Having trouble updating our page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliott_Museum. I submitted extensive revisions which were then "undone" by some Bot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lisadjahed (talkcontribs) 18:19, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    You deleted a large portion from the article in this edit without mentioning any reason in edit summary, that's why the edit got reverted! --Tito Dutta (talk) 18:50, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Why do you call it "your" page? It's a Wikipedia page, no-one owns it. If you are connected with the Elliott Museum, you should read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Maproom (talk) 19:15, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Please see WP:Articles for deletion/Elliott Museum, the article fails to demonstrate notability. Roger (talk) 14:40, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    As I indicated on the AFD, I think it can be salvaged. Significant mentions in both the Local newspaper and one in Orlando.Naraht (talk) 14:54, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Morton Gould

    I am Morton Gould's daughter and would like to change the photo that's being used on his page. I've already edited the text but have a much better photo of him. Please advise as to how I can do this. Thanks for your attention to this. Abby — Preceding unsigned comment added by AbbyGB (talkcontribs) 20:15, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    See the instructions at WP:Donating copyrighted materials#Donating your photographs. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:36, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Wikipedia only accepts files that are under a free license. If you did not take this photo yourself, please verify the photographer wishes to release the file under a free license, such as the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license. If you took this photo or if the photographer wishes to release it under a free license, upload the largest version to the Wikimedia Commons. There you can select the license you wish to release the file under. Once it's been uploaded, copy the file's name (such as "File:Example image.jpg") and edit the article's page and look for the image that's currently on the page, in this case it's [[File:Morton Gould.jpg|thumb|Morton Gould]] Replace the name of that file ("File:Morton Gould.jpg") with the name of your file. Scarce2 (talk) 21:38, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I posted a sentence from Ability magazine and it was deleted because it was a word for word copy of a sentence from the website. Isn't it okay to do this if I cite the source right after the end of the sentence?

    Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbeavers77 (talkcontribs) 21:10, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    No, that's the point of copyright, so that content may not be reproduced without permission. The purpose of citing sources is so that statements may be easily verified. Scarce2 (talk) 21:23, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Instead, give us the same information and the same citation, but give us the information in your own words. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:34, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Actually you are allowed to quote directly from a work under certain circumstances, provided the quote is not extensive, is clearly identified as a quote, and is properly cited. But the guidelines are quite restrictive and you must comply fully with them. See Wikipedia:Quotations. - Karenjc 23:29, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Renaming an article

    Hi, I wanted to put a new article (my first one) on wikipedia by the name 'chuquisengo'- after doing this I wanted to add a new one with the full name of the same person 'juan jose chuquisengo' and copied the former text - this was automatically deleted. I'd like to know how can I delete the first article in order to keep only with the full name (I will then edit it with all the corrections they told me to do), thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jjcho (talkcontribs) 21:45, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I have added a header to this section, to separate it from the previous question.
    If I have understood your question, what you want to do is to rename an existing article. To rename an article, click on a downward-pointing triangle in the tabs at the top, and use the "Move" option that appears. Maproom (talk) 21:58, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    It is now at Juan Jose Chuquisengo with a redirect at its former place, but it needs much work.   — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 00:48, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Battle of Vienna

    My newly published novel, 'The Tatra Eagle' ISBN-13: 978-1780995229 covers then entire Battle of Vienna with well researched depth - from both English and Polish historical texts. Would it be appropriate to at a citation for this and, if so, how? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.245.241.122 (talk) 22:22, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    References need to be "reliable sources", you can see the guideline for this at WP:RS. If your work qualifies, you can learn how to add references to an article at WP:RFB. But, since you are the author, that may not be a good idea. You can instead add a suggestion to the article's talk page for another editor to consider using your book. See WP:COI for guidance on dealing with a conflict-of-interest. RudolfRed (talk) 23:55, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I can't imagine a novel being a reliable source for a historical event. But it probably would helpful if you cited the sources you found in your research. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TEB728 (talkcontribs) 00:53, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    October 25

    Ryobi Ltd. article factual error

    The Ryobi Ltd. article is inaccurate as it lists Techtronic Industries as the "Parent". Techtronic licenses Ryobi power tools for manufacture in all markets other than Japan. However, the largest portion of Ryobi Ltd's. income is from their Die Casting division followed by the Graphic Systems division (printing presses). While publicly traded, the Urakami family are the primary shareholders. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.198.109.78 (talk) 01:24, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I removed that line from the infobox. Rojomoke (talk) 05:23, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Recent changes from new accounts

    How long does one have to have an account before it stops being tracked by the recent changes counter from new accounts?[1] I'm asking this because User:Anonymouse321 is still being tracked there despite having an account for a month and over 2000 edits. A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 06:43, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    That's me . I've tried searching around, but the closest I could find (Help:User contributions) does not mention anything about "newbie" edits. –– Anonymouse321 (talkcontribs) 06:52, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I posted at the Village pump since it may be a better place. –– Anonymouse321 (talkcontribs) 07:18, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Resolved

    The question was answered at the Village pump. –– Anonymouse321 (talkcontribs) 15:10, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Redict

    Is it possible to create a redirect page that redirects one to a specific section of an article? I am asking here due to the attention message when creating a new section in the Redirect Help page saying that not many users view that page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KidXap (talkcontribs) 08:54, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Yes, it is possible to do that. After you've typed in the name of the article, add the # sign and then the name of the section. For example, if you wanted to link to the 'History' section of Christmas you'd type #REDIRECT [[Christmas#History]]. Hope this helped! A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 09:15, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    How to extract information from wikipedia?

    Hello! I want to save tables, as the one below: http://i.imgur.com/6rLFB.png but I want to save them as they are, editable, with their sorting script functional, etc is there a way? thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.251.115.2 (talk) 11:57, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    The article is Protein_secondary_structure#Protein. I made it sortable. Regards.--Tomcat (7) 12:11, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    If you want to save and edit them with a similar wiki interface you can make your own mediawiki installation, see here. They (talk) 17:17, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Creating infoboxes

    I've been editing this page, and have considered adding an infobox:

    [2]

    I've added infoboxes to other pages I've edited by just copying them from existing pages and changing the details, but I'd like to know how to create one from scratch.

    The list of templates on the above-noted page includes an infobox called persondata, but I noticed elsewhere that there is an infoboxperson template as well. Which one, if either, should I use, and how do I create it? I tried adding infobox person to the above-noted page, and the name merely showed up in red, with no cells in which I could add information. I'm obviously doing something wrong. Help with this would be much appreciated. NinaGreen (talk) 18:38, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    You'll find an entire catalog of infoboxes for people at Category:People infobox templates. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:47, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks very much, Orange Mike! I copied the basic template from Infobox person onto the page, and added some additional parameters, and it worked. Any chance you could add the honorific back to the title of the page? He was made a knight banneret at the Battle of Crecy. NinaGreen (talk) 19:18, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Honorifics are not included in article titles, see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people)#Titles and styles. - David Biddulph (talk) 19:28, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for that information. I've run across a number of Wikipedia articles with 'Sir' in the article title, and didn't know that that was generally not the right way to do it. And belated thanks to Orange Mike for fixing that. NinaGreen (talk) 19:38, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    The only articles which should have "Sir" in the title are ones about baronets, where the "Sir" is their title, like Aloysius Piffle, 13th Duke of Smeg or Quincy Barkington-Puffbosom-Tawdry, 6th Baron Bumfodder. --Orange Mike | Talk 23:50, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    If I recall correctly, {{Persondata}} isn't an infobox. {{persondata}} is a metadata template; see Wikipedia:Persondata. - Purplewowies (talk) 19:45, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Glad to learn the difference. Thanks.NinaGreen (talk) 20:04, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I am searching for an article, which I know exists, about a male English Jewish comedian, active in the 1930s. I have found Category:English male comedians, but it lists 310 articles and I do not want to check them all. Is there a way of combining categories, something like "English male comedian"+"Jewish"+"born 1890-1910"? Maproom (talk) 19:29, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    You can look at List_of_British_comedians. Ruslik_Zero 19:40, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    The tool you need is WP:CatScan Roger (talk) 21:06, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Image is too big

    I just made a new article. Arik Braun You can see what is wrong with it. Legolover26 (talk) 19:31, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Fixed. Ruslik_Zero 19:36, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, Ruslik beat me to it. A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 19:38, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, plenty of things wrong with it. No references, no evidence of notability, so I fear that the article is likely to suffer speedy deletion. Try reading WP:1st, WP:BIO, WP:BLP, WP:Referencing for beginners. - David Biddulph (talk) 19:39, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    The page is in its beginning stages, the stages in which it is tiny and need references, expansion and all. I am still working on it. It is clearly of encyclopedic content, though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Legolover26 (talkcontribs) 19:42, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Not clearly so, at all. You would have been well advised to have continued your development in user space at User:Legolover26/Arik Braun until it was ready to be published. - David Biddulph (talk) 19:47, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    It doesn't reliably source its claim of notability. Its only source is another Wikipedia, already a tertiary source (and therefore, not really meeting WP:RS), and on top of that the article referenced has no references itself. - Purplewowies (talk) 20:24, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Now it does. The only thing that indicates otherwise is the unreliable notice. Could someone please check the references and remove it? Legolover26 (talk) 20:46, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    In that case, I will.Legolover26 (talk) 13:04, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    help with changing title of a page

    Hello, I am trying to edit the name of Cuno Puempin on Wikipedia from German Pumpin (with a German u), to English Puempin. I have Puempin all over the page, except the title which reads in German. Are you able to help me correct the title as well please ? I was told to ask an administrator for help, but am unable to locate his/her address.

    Thank you in advance <email redacted> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.199.103.135 (talk) 20:08, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Can you show me something to prove that his name is Puempin and not Pümpin? If not, the name should not be changed. Legolover26 (talk) 20:17, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Legolover26 is quite right. The relevant guidance is Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English)#Modified letters. Basically, the English Wikipedia doesn't automatically replace ü with ue in German names just because English doesn't have a ü. If Cuno Pümpin is normally recorded with a ü in English reference sources then he should have a ü here; if he's normally recorded with ue, then use ue. I have removed the email address from your post to deter spammers, per the notice at the top of the page - replies to your question will not be sent by email. - Karenjc 22:25, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I have edited Cuno Pümpin and returned all incidences of his surname to the German spelling. I can find no evidence that English reference sources anglicise the spelling of his name, and plenty to suggest they don't. - Karenjc 14:19, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Changing the title of an article?

    Hello, I work for Greenstone TV, a production company in New Zealand. How would we go about changing the title of this article without having an account? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenstone_Pictures The name of the company was changed last year. Everything else is correct, just need to change "Pictures" to "TV." Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.126.133.214 (talk) 20:19, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you for telling. The name of the article has now been changed. And now I will go about changing the names within the article text. Legolover26 (talk) 20:25, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    If the name changed last year, then it doesn't look as if all the references in the text should have been changed. - David Biddulph (talk) 20:29, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.126.133.214 (talk) 20:55, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia article on the national sporting organization in Ireland

    Hi, I found that the Wikipedia article on the national sporting organization in Ireland had major ommissios. When I rated the article accordinglly, a suggestion popped up for me to edit it. ...only to find the page locked.

    ..I contacted the supervisor for the page and asked if I could submit my suggestions for him to review. That was several weeks ago, and I have not had a response. I am new to Wiki, and interested in contributing some more information over time. Could I please have some suggestions on how to go about getting my material considered. Thank you so much!

    GAAFAN, Ireland — Preceding unsigned comment added by GAAFAN (talkcontribs) 20:30, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Can you please be more specific about which article you are referring to? If you refer to the GAA as you mentioned on John Reaves' talk page, the Gaelic Athletic Association is not locked so you are free to edit it. SassyLilNugget (talk) 20:43, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    The Edit link for Gaelic Athletic Association leads to a page [3] with an edit box starting with {{Infobox organization. Perhaps this confused you if you have never edited before. See {{Infobox organization}} for the documentation, or scroll down in the edit box if you don't want to edit the infobox. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:39, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    New content addressing company and products behind the "Grub Hub" registered trademark.

    As the owner of the registered trademark "Grub Hub" I would like to include information on the company and products behind the trademark. All company info may be found at www.grubhubusa.com This content will help clarify the distinction between our company and the company "GrubHub" that is an online vendor for food related services. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.224.112.248 (talk) 22:57, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Anyone can edit Wikipedia articles to add information, but since you are affiliated with the subject, read WP:COI first. It can often be better to leave suggestions on the article's talk page for other editors to make the edits. RudolfRed (talk) 23:41, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Leaving Messages

    Hi! I am a new user on Wikipedia, and I was wondering, how do I leave a message on someone else's talkpage if they don't have a button that you can click to create a new message? Any answers will be appreciated. Thanks, B. Jakob T. (talk) 23:36, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Just click the edit button at the top of the page, and add your message at the bottom. RudolfRed (talk) 23:39, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    For a new topic it's often better to use the "New section" button. See more at Help:Using talk pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:42, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    When you click on a red "talk" next to the person's name, you will likely see this:
    - No messages have been posted for this user yet. 
    - To start a page called User talk: person, type in the box below. When you are done, preview the page to check for errors and then save it.
    

    Just start typing in here, and then check for errors and save. Hope that helped. --ErikVKing (talk) 00:48, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    October 26

    Jamie Lee Curtis has two children Annie And Thomas Guest that are not listed on your site

    Jamie Lee Curtis has two children Annie and Thomas Guest Please include them in your site — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.197.41.181 (talk) 02:22, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I cleaned up your post a little. The article Jamie Lee Curtis already lists her children Annie and Thomas. RudolfRed (talk) 02:49, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Delete entry about me please!

    Hi,

    My biography was put on wikipedia without my permission by a gallery. I have attempted to remove it myself but got a warning. I only talk to the gallery via my lawyer and they refuse to de-link or do anything to remove me. PLEASE HELP by completely removing me!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irene_Ferguson

    Many thanks, Ireneferg (talk) 03:57, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Your permission is not required for us to have a biography about you; however, this article happens to appear to violate our policy on biographies of living persons and is probably not notable enough for inclusion, so I have proposed deletion. However, if sufficient sources are found, the article may be kept.--Jasper Deng (talk) 04:10, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I think Notability is confirmed. I found 6 web mentions of Ms. Ferguson and 7 news articles through google and placed them all on the talk page. I restored the article with the proposed, since a proposed delete on an empty page is sort of weird. I also don't find anything that violates BLP except for possibly the birthday. I know we've deleted month and day on request from the subject of the article. I found the birth year in an unrelated reference.Naraht (talk) 04:35, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict)Update: Someone found sufficient sources, so the article can likely be kept. If you wish to voice your concerns, you may go to the online ticket request service.--Jasper Deng (talk) 04:37, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Please read about ownership of articles and the rules in Biographies of Living Persons. Wikipedia uses referencable work, which generally means that information in articles is somewhere out on the web or in a newspaper or someplace similar. Please take a look at the article and where this information is available to see if something not referenced is there. The month and day of your birth have been removed, that isn't appropriate to include unless very publicly available elsewhere. You may also want to see Wikipedia:Contact us - SubjectsNaraht (talk) 05:24, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Removing Citation and Referencing notification

    I am very new to editing and I have been doing some work on different suburbs of Auckland, NZ, in particular Kingsland, New Zealand. Before I began it had the Citation and Referencing notification:

    at the top of the page. I have since added content and referenced my sources. I was wondering if it is within Wikipedia etiquette for me to remove the notification myself or if I need to request for an administrator to reevaluate the page? Researchassistant101 (talk) 04:09, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I removed it for you, but in this case, you could have removed it yourself. - Purplewowies (talk) 04:11, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Kripalvananda

    Would you check the edit I did and erase what is not appropriate. The page I get now is not information about Kripalvananda, but one of my comments. Thanks. lh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lhovde (talkcontribs) 05:57, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    It's already been reverted. A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 06:09, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    LUTALO MUHAMMAD VANDALISED ENTRIES

    THE PAGE ON LUTALO MUHAMMAD IS BEING VANDALISED! SOMEONE KEEPS CHANGING THE INFORMATION TO INTENTIONALLY DISPARAGE HIM! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lutalo_Muhammad08:01, 26 October 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Legalactionjackson (talkcontribs)

    Lutalo Muhammad (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
    There is no need to shout.
    I see no vandalism there. I see an edit dispute between you and another editor, who has been adding well-sourced content to the article, while you have been deleting it without explanation. Maproom (talk) 09:06, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Idea for Article

    How do you submit a new idea for an article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.170.129.50 (talk) 10:37, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Do you mean something like WP:RA? Regards.--Tomcat (7) 10:45, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.170.129.50 (talk) 10:48, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I want to give an idea for an article about "The Freedom Fighter" (book by Derick Bingham) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.170.129.50 (talk) 10:51, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    (edit conflict) What are you trying to do? Do you want to create a new article yourself? Or suggest a new one and have someone else write it? Or do you want to discuss adding or changing something in an already existing article? - Purplewowies (talk) 10:52, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Seems pretty unlikely that this would meet the notability requirement for books. Yunshui  12:05, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    LUTALO MUHAMMAD VANDALISED ENTRIES

    I am Lutalo Muhammad's father. I have been undoing the posts that are incorrect. Please look at his very first page to determine which information is correct. This a nightmare. He was in a selection battle to attend the Olympics, the other chaps supporters are changing the facts to disparage my son. JUST GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL PAGE POSTED IN JULY AND PROTECT IT. I WILL SEEK FURTHER ACTION IF YOU CONTINUE TO BLAME ME! THIS IS MADNESS! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Legalactionjackson (talkcontribs) 12:17, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    By "I will seek further action", do you refer to taking legal action? If you do, please read Wikipedia:No legal threats. SassyLilNugget (talk) 12:23, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Please remain calm and try to understand what is happening here. The content of the article is well sourced and factually accurate. Your attempts to change the content is resulting in removal of correctly sourced material and so your changes are being reverted. We, as editors are happy to work with you to adjust any incorrect content provided you can provide reliable sources indicating a difference. Can I strongly advise you to stop making changes to the live article and instead post the issues you have with its content on the articles talk page (Talk:Lutalo_Muhammad) then other editors can inspect your proposed changes and comment or include them. CaptRik (talk) 12:27, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    In addition to the above I would like you to read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Besides Wikipedia is driven by reliable source. What you are doing here is removing/altering sourced info and adding redundant info. Now that so many editors have reverted your edit I suggest you take this matter to the talk page of the article and discuss with other editors how your edit improves this encyclopedic article. --SMS Talk 13:11, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    OP has now been blocked. Yunshui  13:15, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Reece Robertson Page

    I tried to inform one of the managers of Wikipedia about an singer Reece Robertson i represent but they couldnt help me, Basically we are still editing the page with loads of information but for now it only has 2 paragraphs and references, I was wondering if you could cancel the pending deletion as we are putting all the information on so that's why it lacks information

    Many Thanks, CityFMNational — Preceding unsigned comment added by CityFMNational (talkcontribs) 13:42, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    You've already created a copy of the page at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Reece Robertson; I suggest you try and bring it up to standard there. Yunshui  13:57, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    On second thoughts, given that your username violates the username policy I have blocked your account; please see the block message on your userpage for details of how to appeal the block and change your username. Yunshui  14:01, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Tattoo Artist list, adding an artist

    Hi, I would like to add an Italian tattoo artist Tom Tattoo, real name Tommaso Buglioni, one of "the fathers" of modern tattoo art in Italy, born in 1961 and working since 1982. He has long worked in the USA, partecipating to several conventions in the State, as, for instance, The NYC Tattoo Convention since his first edition in late '90s. He has a page in the Italian Wikipedia: can I add him to the list even if he has not an English page? How can I manage it? Thanks--Giulia Visci (talk) 16:21, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    That's kind of a complicated question. There's no rule that requires a list item to have a page associated with it, but editing is by consensus and other editors may object unless you can at least provide a reliable source, as defined by Wikipedia, which says that he's sufficiently important to be included. You might try adding him with a link to the Italian Wikipedia article in this form [[:it:Tom Tattoo|Tom Tatoo]] but I'm not at all sure that will be sufficient since there may be sourcing and copyright problems with the Italian article. Your best choice may just be to wait to see if anyone responds to the suggestion that you've made on the list's talk page. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 16:50, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks for your kind answer! What about adding a list of English language publications mentioning Tom Tattoo as a reliable source? If you have a look to the Tattoo Artist List you'll see it is a table: hoe do I add a name to the list? Thanks --Giulia Visci (talk) 07:39, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Adding a Picture

    Hi,

    I am trying to upload a picture of our Carassauga page but can't seem to get past all the questions being asked. Please let me know the best way to upload a picture of our Festival to our page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carassauga (talkcontribs) 16:32, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm sorry, but your username violates our policies against editing from a role account and you will probably be blocked from editing for that reason before you are able to upload any photo. If you establish an individual account, then you need to know that the questions must be properly answered in order to confirm that Wikipedia will accept the photo for use here. Once you've established an individual account, you might post here again to say which questions are giving you trouble. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 17:01, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    BTW, it's not your page - the article belongs to Wikipedia. See WP:OWN and WP:COI for some guidance. Roger (talk) 09:06, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Minor edit check box is checked

    Have I missed something? Noticed today that the minor edit box is by default checked. I am sure this is new, isn't it? How do I "uncheck" it permanently? I am certain that I did this last year when starting to edit on Wikipedia. Now I cannot find out how to do that. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 17:53, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    It doesn't happen to me. I don't want to state the obvious... a boat that can float! (watch me float!) 18:02, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Isn't the setting for making every edit minor, somewhere in you user preferences? Astronaut (talk) 18:13, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    @ User talk:Floating Boat ... Perhaps you should. It is not obvious to me.
    @ Astronaut Thanks, I thought that too, but cannot find it anywhere.

    To all: Please can someone help me!

    -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 19:19, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    The checkbox before "This is a minor edit" is checked? You're not getting it confused with the box following minor edit, which is for "Watch this page", are you? That box is checked on pages you are already watching, and there is a setting to always check it in your preferences. - Purplewowies (talk) 20:21, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    @ Purplewowies Thanks. I am fully aware of the 'Watch this page' check box to the right of the minor edit box, and I have checked in My preferences the appropriate check box : 'Add pages and files I edit to my watchlist'.

    I believe that option in preferences was removed some time ago - too many people left it checked, and marked everything as minor. Do you remember enabling that option at any point in time? If you did, I guess it's possible that it remained enabled when the preference got removed, although I thought they'd taken steps to avoid that. If you didn't, then you may want to ask at WP:VPT for help. Hersfold non-admin(t/a/c) 20:22, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    (edit conflict) @ User:Hersfold Yes, I had a sneaky feeling that I had read something about it being made unavailable for that reason.
    I certainly never enabled it. I shall have to keep an eye on it. It seems to appear checked on some edits and not checked on others without any contribution from me. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 20:47, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Aha, I found a way to check. Go to this link: [4] that will list all the preferences you currently have set in a machine-readable format, which usually isn't useful for us, but the benefit here is that it includes all the preferences we've hidden from the normal screen. Once you go there, make sure that your username appears on the page, and then search (Ctrl+F on Windows) for "minordefault". If you see minordefault="1", that means that somehow your preferences are still set to mark all edits as minor by default. I can give you instructions on how to turn that off if needed, but it's a little more complicated. Hersfold non-admin(t/a/c) 20:31, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Hmm. If you're sure it's the minor edit box that's being checked and not the "watch this page" one, I haven't the faintest idea why this would be happening, and I'm certainly not seeing it. Is there a particular page that seems to consistently have the box checked when you try to edit it? Hersfold non-admin(t/a/c) 20:49, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I have done your check on "minordefault" and it shows =0
    As I said above, {{edit conflict}}, I shall watch it carefully. Many, many thanks for giving so much thought and help. Cheers! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 21:05, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Some settings can make minor edit be checked for some types of edits. I see you use Twinkle. See Wikipedia:Twinkle/Preferences. Do you use the Vector skin? User:Gareth Griffith-Jones/vector.js imports User:Kbh3rd/whackamole.js which has mention of wpMinoredit.checked. User:Gareth Griffith-Jones/vector.js also imports Wikipedia:AutoEd/complete.js which imports various other things I haven't examined. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:43, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    @ PrimeHunter I have always had all Twinkle check boxes,namely,
    | AGF rollback | Normal rollback | Vandalism rollback | "Restore this version" | un-checked.
    Not using whackamole
    Yes, AutoEd defaults to "minor edit".
    I think you may have provided the answer. I shall watch carefully on other editing. Thank you. Sincerely, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 22:15, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    YMCA Camp Minikani

    Good afternoon! I was wondering who I would need to contact to update some information about the YMCA Camp Minikani Wikipedia page.

    Most notably the points in bold below. Could you please direct me to the correct person?

    YMCA Camp Minikani is a residential summer camp located along the shores of Lake Amy Belle in Hubertus, Wisconsin, in Washington County, Wisconsin, United States. YMCA was established in 1919 by the Milwaukee YMCA. Minikani is also home to one of the cleanest lakes in Wisconsin, Amy Belle. At its conception, Minikani served as a summer camp for boys living in the Milwaukee Area who came for two weeks to learn camp skills and participated in competitive athletic events. Minikani has since transformed to a co-ed camp that has shifted from competitive activities to challenge by choice to eliminate the emotional pressure of competitions. To this day, Minikani offers its traditional summer programs, Explorer programs, Leadership in Training programs, as well as Day Camp and Equestrian Camps. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.48.118.66 (talk) 18:48, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello! You are more than welcome to be bold and edit the YMCA Camp Minikani article yourself. You don't need any permission from us in order to edit the information. Cheers, SassyLilNugget (talk) 20:03, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Uploading images

    Hello ~ I'm sure this question has been asked a thousand times before ~ and I think I've read the prerequisites that Wikipedia requests of contributors before they can post an image ~ but I'm having difficulty placing a well-known image of Aaron Robinson at the keyboard in a Hirschfeld Caricature by Jon Bogdanove within the article.

    Hirschfeld Caricature
    File:Ragtime Caricature.jpg
    Caricature of Aaron Robinson at the Keyboard by Jon Bogdanove

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Robinson_%28composer%29

    Am I doing this right? and do I have access to actually posting it? I'd like to add it ... but I'm not sure how. Thanks so much in advance for your help! I appreciate it! Music4ibc (talk) 18:53, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Unless you think you can get the copyright holder to grant permission (and not just for Wikipedia to use it), don't upload the image. Wikimedia Commons only accepts images released under a free license. If the image is copyrighted, non-free content, don't upload it here either, as using non-free images of living persons is unacceptable in most cases. Using a caricature in the person's infobox might be disparaging and probably should be avoided anyway. PleaseStand (talk) 19:34, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    PCRL

    Dear Friend,

    There is a Wikipedia topic of "PCRL", and I would like to add additional entries under this title that is not related to the entry already under this title. Is this appropriate, and how should I do that? Specifically, I am the founding director of the Powertrain Control Research Laboratory (PCRL) at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. This research group was founded in 1989, continues to thrive today, and conducts important research and development, and trains engineering students for the transporation and other industries. We have also won a number of important international awards, and have several patents to our credit. You can review PCRL's history and activities at: http://powertrain.engr.wisc.edu

    Please let me know how I can add content to Wikipedia about this group (PCRL). Thank you for your consideration. Best regards. 2607:F388:1082:FFF4:53B:379D:EA47:3AF3 (talk) 19:34, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    You can learn how to create an article at WP:YFA. Since you are affiliated with the group, you should also read about how to handle a conflict-of-interest at WP:COI. It might be better if you have someone else create the article. You can request that at WP:RA. RudolfRed (talk) 19:43, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    And to explicitly answer the first clause in your question: no, it's not appropriate. Each Wikipedia article treats only one topic, so your organization would have to have an article of its own, presumably titled with the full name of the organization. A hatnote at PCRL would then be added to direct readers searching for the organization to the correct article. Deor (talk) 21:18, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    October 27

    Tank Overhaul

    Dear Sirs, I have been watching, for some time now, with great interest, your program "Tank Overhaul". This subject has great interest to me, as my father served in World War Two in a tank batallion. Some of the programs that you televized have no ending. The Sherman Tank, that was cut in two, for example had no ending. Also, the German Panther had no conclusion. "What happened to these projects?" I am greatly interested in finding out. Are there any DVDs that I can purchase regarding these projects? Any help you can supply would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for you time...JD. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.24.126.199 (talk) 02:27, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 - Purplewowies (talk) 02:37, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    how to edit uploaded letters

    Good day!

    Greetings from SIPC Baguio City. I had uploaded an article from Sipc Baguio Site , but it seems the body of the article is not in order. May i request your technical staff to send me some hints on how to place the uploaded article readable and body of the letter is in order.

    thank you for your prompt response.

    Sincerely yours,

    ELISA O. NAMOCA PRESIDENT Soroptimist International of Pines City (SIPC) Baguio City, Philippines — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sipcbaguio (talkcontribs) 06:00, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Sipcbaguio
    User:Sipcbaguio/sandbox
    Don't put spaces at the beginning of lines; leading spaces have a special meaning on Wikipedia. If you really want to indent a paragraph, put a colon (:) at the beginning of the line. —teb728 t c 06:32, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    But the material you are trying to upload has a far worse problem than formatting: I'm sorry to have to tell you that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia; it is not a web hosting service for Soroptomist's content. And if I understand correctly, you uploaded a copyrighted article from a Soroptomists site; that would be a copyright violation. —teb728 t c 07:24, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    When uploading a video game box art cover

    Should the logo of the console system/PC be edited out? --WWETrishMickiefan (talk) 07:12, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    If the cover image has a valid non-free tag and a valid non-free use rationale, that's what's needed; so the logo shouldn't be problem. If you share what cover image you are asking about, we might be able to be more specific. —teb728 t c 07:40, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    It's the image in the infobox for this article. The image does have non free and fair use rationale. But the PC logo is visible below.--WWETrishMickiefan (talk) 12:32, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Correction to Surname

    Tiana Coudray, American Equestrian, Olympics 2012. Wikipedia has this posted with Surname mispelled as Courdray — Preceding unsigned comment added by Getthiscorrected (talkcontribs) 08:51, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

     Done - Purplewowies (talk) 09:09, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    what software are you using for mathematical equations, mathematical symbols

    I am trying to upload a text which contains mathematical equations and mathematical symbols but I can't figure out what software to use.

    Please help me resolve this problem — Preceding unsigned comment added by Baemic (talkcontribs) 09:14, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    We use a subset of AMS-LaTeX. Does Help:Math explain what you want? —teb728 t c 10:15, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Turning off the watchlist pop-up messages

    When I add a page to my watchlist by clicking the little star next to the search box, I get a pop-up message with this text (approximately):

    The page"Wikipedia:Help desk" has been added to your watchlist, which will...

    I understand that this useful for newcomers, but I would very much like to get rid of this message, partly because it's a bit annoying in itself but mostly because the pop-up message tends to cover the "View history" button.

    Does anybody know if there is a setting for turning off these pop-up messages, and if there isn't how I could ask the MediaWiki developers to consider adding such a feature?

    - Tournesol (talk) 11:38, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Transclusion

    As a newbie on Wikipedia, I'd be grateful for advice on whether what I've started to do is sensible, before I do it to lots more articles!

    There are several cases where the same fact appears in more than one article, so when it changes it has to be updated twice or more. The case I'm looking at is the set of historical lists of ambassadors of the United Kingdom to other countries. There's also a page listing current ambassadors to all countries, so when there's a new ambassador, two pages have to be updated, which typically means that the list of current ambassadors gets out-of-date or inaccurate. So I've begun to put in code to transclude the name of the current ambassador from one page to the other. See List of Ambassadors of the United Kingdom to Afghanistan and the entry for Afghanistan in List of heads of missions of the United Kingdom. Is this a good (or at least reasonable) way of doing it?

    I've used Template:Onlyinclude rather than using bare onlyinclude and /onlyinclude tags, in case in future another piece of text from the page needs to be transcluded, although it does make the code more complicated. The code could be more straightforward, and clearer, if Labeled Section Transclusion was installed on the English Wikipedia, but it isn't, although it's been proposed from time to time (for example).

    Thanks! ... Stanning (talk) 11:37, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    if you are using transclusion it will remove the need to repeat and reduce article size but increase server load. i strongly suggest using onlyinclde tags as the template could cause problems. no data isnt a problem you jsut put it wihtin the onlyinclude tags i use on tv episode show list all the time. although i cant see where the trasnclusion acutally is. it seems like only the current ambassor is using trasnclusion to which makes it pointless using it just for one person as both pages will need updated anyway unless you do it in reverse to what oyu have jsut nowAndrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 11:50, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks. You can see where the transclusion is by looking at the code. The current ambassador is transcluded from the "list of ambassadors" page to the "heads of missions" page, thus only the former page needs to be updated. My intenetion is to repeat this transclusion from all the other "list of ambassadors" pages eventually.
    Can you point to an example of what you've done with TV episode show lists? ... Stanning (talk) 14:25, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I can see the value of this function, but is it a function that the average editor would understand and use correctly? It is possible that a relatively new editor could go into an article or a table with intentions to make a valuable edit, see the coding and be discouraged from making the edit. Your idea make sense, but will it have side effects?    → Michael J    14:29, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    That's what I'm not sure of, and why I asked the question here before continuing. As I said above, installation of Labeled Section Transclusion would make it much easier for the average editor. However, it's because the average editor has failed to update the "List of heads of missions" page that I looked for this possible solution! ... Stanning (talk) 11:37, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Category

    Hi, I'm new to Wikipedia and while talking to a Canadian friend who resides in Vancouver, he told me of a renowned Canadian actor, young actor, who is member of the Vancouver Masonic Lodge, and I think it's Cory Monteith, so I added Category:Freemasons to his article. Is it right? Please consider I'm new to Wikipedia. Thank you. Iowafromiowa (talk) 16:24, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]