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Main Page appearance: Freedom for the Thought That We Hate

This is a note to let the main editors of Freedom for the Thought That We Hate know that the article will be appearing as today's featured article on September 25, 2013. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at all, please ask Bencherlite (talk · contribs). You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/September 25, 2013. If it needs tweaking, or if it needs rewording to match improvements to the article between now and its main page appearance, please edit it, following the instructions at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/instructions. The blurb as it stands now is below:

Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.

Freedom for the Thought That We Hate is a 2007 non-fiction book by Anthony Lewis about freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of thought, and the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. Lewis discusses key free speech case law, including U.S. Supreme Court opinions in United States v. Schwimmer (1929), New York Times Co. v. Sullivan (1964), and New York Times Co. v. United States (1971). The book's title is drawn from the dissenting opinion by Associate Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. (pictured) in United States v. Schwimmer, who wrote: "if there is any principle of the Constitution that more imperatively calls for attachment than any other, it is the principle of free thought—not free thought for those who agree with us but freedom for the thought that we hate." The book was positively received by The New York Times, Harvard Magazine, Nat Hentoff, two National Book Critics Circle members, and Kirkus Reviews. Jeremy Waldron criticized the work in The New York Review of Books and elaborated on this in The Harm in Hate Speech (2012). This prompted a critical analysis of both works in The New York Review of Books by former Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens. (Full article...)

UcuchaBot (talk) 23:02, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, this is exciting to be able to see an article about freedom of speech featured on the Main Page! — Cirt (talk) 14:05, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I couldn't agree more, as I'm a huge fan of Anthony Lewis! I was really glad to learn of the upcoming Main Page appearance, and thrilled to see one of my favorite quotes in the quotebox ("There will always be authorities who try to make their own lives more comfortable by suppressing critical comment...."). I have used it many times over the last two months, ever since my community has become embroiled in a highly polarizing controversy against those very authorities who have been attempting to squelch the thoughts that they hate. In fact, my contributions on Wikipedia have fallen off dramatically these last two months, but don't worry, I'll be back once we're done restoring basic constitutional rights to seemingly-idyllic Cape Cod. Already, our police chief has been suspended and is under investigation, and our Town Manager and Chairman of the Board of Selectmen are in the hot-seat for attempting to sweep the chief's over-the-top trouncing of free speech right under the rug...
Btw, thanks for compressing down those ref's; I merely did that because they all started looking alike when I was trying to sort them out, and meant to collapse them back... Thanks again,  Grollτech (talk) 01:04, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Great article, great book, great title line. I think of it every time that I see an infobox referred to as an idiotbox (example pictured) ;) - Campaigning for reconciliation, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:04, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! — Cirt (talk) 08:02, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It's good to see this finally up on the main page. It looks great. Keep up the awesome work! Neelix (talk) 13:16, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, a bit busy lately but will try to get to some more freedom of speech related projects soon! :) — Cirt (talk) 04:16, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Btw, a great article & look forward to other FOS projects you work on. & thanks for your response on talk page Manytexts (talk) 02:04, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! — Cirt (talk) 02:38, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ghost of Sparta FAC

There seems to be a lack of interest for the God of War: Ghost of Sparta FAC. Would you care to leave some comments? --JDC808 03:03, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Quite busy with other projects, but will try to take a look if I get a chance. — Cirt (talk) 14:16, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Targeted Killings: Law and Morality in an Asymmetrical World

I've created the new article about the book Targeted Killings: Law and Morality in an Asymmetrical World, which discusses the subject of targeted killing.

Further suggestions for research and additional secondary sources would be appreciated, at the article's talk page, at Talk:Targeted Killings: Law and Morality in an Asymmetrical World.

Thank you, — Cirt (talk) 04:12, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Two articles to review for GA

Saw these two over at Wikipedia:Good article nominations/Topic lists/Language and literature, I'll read these over and review them:

  1. Goosebumps
  2. Fahrenheit 451

Cirt (talk) 04:46, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

68th Academy Awards (1996)

Hi there,

I was wondering if you could proofead 68th Academy Awards for featured list status. Please leave comments at: Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/68th Academy Awards/archive1. I understand your busy schedule, but it would be greatly appeciated.

--Birdienest81 (talk) 18:28, 5 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, will try to take a look soon. — Cirt (talk) 18:29, 5 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Edit-athon!

WIKI LOVES LIBRARIES 2013!
You're invited to attend the upcoming "Wiki Loves Libraries" edit-athon. The event will be held from 1–4pm on Sunday, October 13, 2013 at the Portland Art Museum's Crumpacker Family Library, located on the second floor of the Museum's Mark Building (formerly the Masonic Temple). The edit-athon will focus on the local arts community (but you can work on other topics as well!). It will also kick off the Oregon Arts Project, an on-wiki initiative to improve coverage of the arts in Oregon. Details and signup here!

Hope to see you there! --Another Believer (Talk) 15:43, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the notice, unfortunately I'll be busy, but have fun! — Cirt (talk) 15:52, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks very much! — Cirt (talk) 17:44, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Glad to help; I enjoy the articles you work on. All the best, Miniapolis 20:59, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oh wonderful, my pleasure, — Cirt (talk) 13:58, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Very surprising to not see Glengarry Glen Ross (film) listed. Can you check but I think there's way more than 150 f bombs in the movie. In fact it seems more than even Goodfellas at times, but it's not as consistent throughout the movie as Goodfellas.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:02, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the interest, Dr. Blofeld, Glengarry Glen Ross (film) and Goodfellas are both great films. According to this secondary source, Entertainment Weekly, it's used 128 times in Glengarry Glen Ross (film), whereas the cited listing for Goodfellas notes 300 usages. — Cirt (talk) 15:11, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Glenngarry is under 100 minutes I think that's probably why. The rate seems similar to that of Goodfellas, even more so in the middle, but in Goodfellas it's more consistent throughout its 2.5 hr length thanks to Joe Pesci! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:35, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with your analysis. Now I'll have to re-watch both those films again sometime soon! — Cirt (talk) 16:18, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

Please see my reply at User talk:Northamerica1000#Gammon (meat). Thanks. Northamerica1000(talk) 16:39, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. — Cirt (talk) 16:43, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of article

There's an article about a brazilian journalist which was proposed for deletion, and you agreed that it was reasonable, as it is in the page of discussion over it. Why it hasn't been done so yet? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.127.81.38 (talk) 01:52, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't recall making any comments about something like that, could you give a specific link to it? — Cirt (talk) 04:30, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Olavo_de_Carvalho "The result was delete"

hmmm hmmmm

swag — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.25.194.4 (talk) 07:18, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]