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June 6

Info Box

I want to make a page about AUSTRALIA AT THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS IN ATHLETICS like the ones about olympics etc... but not sure how to make info box

--NickGibson3900 (talk) 00:21, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

See Help:Infobox. Spinning Spark 00:28, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Find an existing article in Category:Nations at the World Championships in Athletics and click the "Edit" tab to see how it did something. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:57, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I wish to add the names two new films to my section on songs of Norman Gimbel appearing in motion pictures the are"Django Unchained" and "Fading Gigolo"

I wish to add the names of two new films to my section on songs written by Norman Gimbel appearing in motion pictures the are"Django Unchained"(song: "I Got A Name") and "Fading Gigolo" - songs "Canadian Sunset" and "Sway"

If the films have been released, and a reliable independent source, not connected with the films or their creators, such as a newspaper report, professional film review or magazine article, confirms this information, then you can add to the article yourself, and include a citation to the source (WP:Referencing for beginners).
Don't forget to sign your posts! —Anne Delong (talk) 03:08, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Warning

I work directly with Kristine W - and she has asked me to remove sections of the Wikipedia page that features her. She actually wishes to be removed from Wikipedia completely as the sources given for information about her are either poor or completely incorrect. I, a member of her promotion team, would like to edit the areas that are incorrect, but have received a "conflict of interest" warning from your staff.

Being an employee of Ms. Weitz - someone that works with her daily, I am only trying to comply with your copyright rules, as well as the privacy act for Ms Weitz. Hippiehalfbrit (talk) 03:05, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

She didn't seem to mind having an article when she donated the image in her article back in 2009—note the OTRS ticket on File:Kristine W.jpg. We don't usually remove articles on demand of the subject, but if a request were to be made, it should go through the volunteer response team again. —C.Fred (talk) 03:15, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am an OTRS volunteer and we do not delete articles on request - that should be done via the appropriate on-wiki process.--ukexpat (talk) 15:14, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I removed great slabs of the article that were making all kinds of unsourced gushing sounds about her career. I did add sources to support her claims of success on the Billboard Hot Dance/Club Play chart, which turned out to be largely true. I also dug through the history and restored her birthdate, as it was reliably sourced and coherent with her career history (Miss America contestant in 1981 sets her birthdate between 1957 and 1964). I see that people claiming to work with her have set her birth year to 1970 and 1973 in the past. Since those would have her competing in the Miss America contest at an age between eight and eleven, they have no credibility.—Kww(talk) 04:31, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Searching for a keyword within a lengthy article

Hi

I would like to know if there is any easy way to search for a word within an article.

For example, if I have brought up the AFGHANISTAN page, can I search the text on that particular page (while I am on it )to see if there is any reference to slavery?

Many thanks and kind regards

Rachelle — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rtconnor (talk • contribs) 04:37, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Rtconnor:. Most Browsers you can Press Control + F And you can type your query. Thanks! Dudel250 Chat PROD Log CSD Logs 04:42, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Use image as reference for content on Wikipedia

Is it possible to use an image on Commons or Wikipedia as a reference directly for a particular content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akhil.prabhudessai (talk • contribs) 07:18, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean? If you mean can you cite an image as a reference to verify a claim in the article, then in general, no you can't. That would fall foul of at least one of WP:RS, WP:PRIMARY and WP:SYNTH. Spinning Spark 08:44, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ya that was doubt , thanks for the prompt response appreciate it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akhil.prabhudessai (talk • contribs) 09:12, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Rating WikiProject items

How do you rate WikiProject on Importance and Quality? — Preceding unsigned comment added by NickGibson3900 (talk • contribs) 07:36, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Most Wikiprojects have an "assessment department" where they set out their criteria for assessing articles. You should consult those. Most base their quality scale on Template:Grading scheme and their importance scale on Template:Importance scheme. There are a lot of variations though, here is the Wikiproject Electronics importance scale for instance. You need to check with each Wikiproject individually. Spinning Spark 08:33, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

help editing a page

I work in a school and seem to be blocked from editing our schools main page which is very out of date and some inaccuracies. How can I go about getting unblocked Dorothy Stringer Wholeschool1 (talk) 09:51, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The page is not blocked, and never has been. Neither are you. What is really happening is that your contributions are being reverted by other editors because they think it is vandalism (nine times out of ten on a school article it usually is vandalism from new editors). You can see clearly what has been going on from the history of the page. You should start a discussion on the article talk page, or else you can speak directly to the editors involved by clicking on the "talk" link next to their names. They are all real people, except for ClueBot which is an automated process.

In any case, it is not advisable for you to be editing the page directly. As an employee of the school you have a conflict of interest. We recommend that you suggest your changes on the article talk page. You can use the template {{request edit}} if necessary to attract the attention of another editor to service the request. Spinning Spark 10:31, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

List of non-government schools in New South Wales

The correct email address for Macquarie Grammar School is: www.macquariegrammarschool.edu.au It would be helpful if it were replaced with your currently listed inaccurate one.

Thanking you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.174.14.44 (talk) 10:53, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That's a website url, not an email address, but changed anyway. You could have changed it yourself. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:12, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Adding subject material to an article

Good Day!

I would like to add information to several articles, but do not have enough "English knowledge" to do the article justice. Here is the Wiki I am referring to:

Gun chronograph

My Great Grandfather, Stanley Standal actually coined the term "Chronograph" when it's being referred to ballistics. Here is his patent information from Google:

https://www.google.com/patents/US2691415?dq=stanley+standal+inventor&hl=en&sa=X&ei=jcWRU8WhHcO48AGusYCIAQ&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAg

He also invented the first actual hand held portable motor driven chainsaw that was driven exclusively from one end and also the cutting teeth and chainsaw bar we use on chainsaws to this day. He sold his patent to the McCulloch Company which then in turn mass produced them.

https://www.google.com/patents/US2488343?dq=stanley+standal+inventor&hl=en&sa=X&ei=jcWRU8WhHcO48AGusYCIAQ&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAA

He also invented the drive mechanism for the inboard/outboard motor along with quite a few other very important things we use to this day. If not for him, alot of these things we use today, would not be the same. Here is a Google page outlining just some of the things he invented.

https://www.google.com/search?tbm=pts&hl=en&q=stanley+standal+inventor&safe=active&gws_rd=ssl#hl=en&q=stanley+standal+inventor&safe=active&start=0&tbm=pts

If someone could include this information into these articles and do him justice that would be awesome and much appreciated! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.131.153.246 (talk) 14:40, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

We need independent reliable sources in order to do this. Just using the patent information means we have to analyze and come up with out own conclusions, which is original research. If these other sources can be found, I'm sure we can use this patent information somehow.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 13:07, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Help with Gail Dines' biographical page

Hi there,

I'm working with Gail Dines, whose Wikipedia page seems to have become a sort of fighting ground for folks pro- and anti-porn. Gail is an anti-porn activist, so her article is bound to contain her ideas, which may inflame some people. She completely understands that Wikipedia needs to be factual and based on sources, but is upset at what has happened to her page, which affects her safety and career. Our end goal is the same as Wikipedia's: to represent her opinions and criticism neutrally, and clean up her page from the current alert messages that show, hopefully resolving issues with trolling as well.

I've had a look at the "Talk" page and I'm unclear what I'm supposed to add to help resolve these disputes. Please instruct me, and if you can actively help in any way, that would be greatly appreciated. This is quite a headache for non-Wikipedia folk. Thank you so much for your help!

I will also send an email to your listed contact email address.

Thank you! Julia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juliabarry (talk • contribs) 16:31, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Talk page archiving

I'm being extremely lazy posting this here, as I'm capable of searching for the answer myself. Nevertheless, does anyone know why Mizabot stopped archiving my user talkpage in October 2013? Bellerophon _{talk to me} 18:45, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Because you are asking Mizabot to archive to your old user name. Mizabot (actually Legobot has taken over from Mizabot) doesn't like archiving to a page that isn't under the root. You need to change the "archive = " parameter to your current user name. Spinning Spark 19:46, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, the mystery unravels! Thanks SpinningSpark! Bellerophon _{talk to me} 20:07, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Powerpoint Slide

Hey Wikipedia, I have a minor problem. I am creating an external link to a power-point slide. The entire power-point slide has 92 slides. I want the link to go to slide #55. Is this possible? (Also, I can upload this powerpoint to Wikipedia itself. If that makes any difference ...)

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by S.ivanchuk (talk • contribs) 19:22, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please provide the url of the thing you are trying to link and we can take a look. You cannot upload powerpoint files to Wikipedia as a .ppt file, but they can be converted to .pdf format which can be uploaded. More importantly, you cannot upload it because you probably do not own the copyright and don't have permission. Spinning Spark 22:45, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Team colors for Turkish Basketball League?

Hello, could anyone please get colors for players on Turkish Basketball League teams? It's a very popular league and I really feel like some team colors should be introduced to non-Euroleague TBL clubs! Temple of the Mousy (talk) 19:54, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What article are you talking about? The table at Turkish Basketball League shows the team colours, as do the individual team articles such as Anadolu Efes S.K.. Spinning Spark 22:49, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am talking about the articles for specific players that play for the Turkish Basketball League teams (that are not in Euroleague). Please check out some pages such as Valentin Pastal, where there are "blank team color" for the infobox. I would not consider any infoboxes of Anadolu Efes players, because I'm quite sure they are in the Turkish Airlines Euroleague! Thanks. Temple of the Mousy (talk) 22:58, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it's normal to put the team colours in the biographies of individual players. US players like Ronnie Brewer don't have them either and Template:Infobox basketball biography does not have a parameter for them. Players can be in more than one team over their career. The right place for team colours is in the team article. If you think there is a good reason for a change to this then you could open a discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Basketball. Spinning Spark 23:55, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I do not think you understand my question. The Ronnie Brewer page has infobox color for the Chicago Bulls. Some leagues such as the Philippine Basketball Association, National Basketball League, NCAA Basketball, and South Korean Basketball League have infobox color for players currently playing on their team. The Turkish Basketball League does not have these colors. Could you possibly add the colors for each TBL team into Template:Infobox basketball biography/style? Temple of the Mousy (talk) 01:12, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I see what you mean. I think you should discuss this at WikiProject Infoboxes. It would be possible, the NBA biography infobox sets this with the "headerstyle" parameter, which invokes (via a style template) the Lua module Module:Basketball color. The headerstyle could be added to your infobox and the league colours added to the module, but there is a warning on the style template documentation that adding more leagues could lead to speed problems. Spinning Spark 10:36, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

help with images at United States Senate election in New Jersey, 2014

Can someone with knowledge of images fix the images in the infobox in United States Senate election in New Jersey, 2014? I can't figure out how to get the images to be the same size. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.156.84.229 (talk) 21:01, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You can make them the same height instead of the same width by for example specifying the size as x150px in both cases. It will still look a little odd when their height to width ratios are so different. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:35, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

All right. I guess Wikipedia can't do it automatically. I manually cropped the image. thanks 205.156.84.229 (talk) 22:10, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

How to get rid of the VisualEditor? Or is it called the Media Viewer?

Hello,

I've followed all directions and unchecked everything under Preferences to get rid of the VisualEditor (or Media Viewer, whichever). I've gotten rid of it on the Commons, but no matter what I do, I can't get rid of in on Wikipedia. Is there a magic trick?

Thanks, Parabolooidal (talk) 21:31, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I was just coming her to ask the same question. Seconded. Is there any way to opt out of the media viewer or a hack to bypass it?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:13, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Visual Editor, the new page editor, is a completely different thing to Media Viewer, the new image viewer. To disable Media Viewer go to Preferences>Appearance>Files and uncheck "Enable Media Viewer". Then save the settings. Visual Editor is currently off by default (its got a lot of problems). You can turn it on at Beta>VisualEditor. Spinning Spark 22:21, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

How to Open Up a Discussion on a Disambiguation Page/Redirect

Hi! I'm a longtime user of Wikipedia but have never opened up a discussion on a disambiguation page before. I am interested in contesting the recent redirect of "UTSA" to a disambiguation page. How should I go about requesting opinions and opening up a discussion with the user who changed the redirect? --Ðrdak (T) 23:27, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion. Spinning Spark 23:58, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Retract that. After looking at the page, it is not actually a redirect. It used to be a redirect, but has been turned into a disambiguation page. You should start a discussion on the talk page in the normal way. Spinning Spark 00:05, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

June 7

I have duplicate users

I registered for wikipedia through the Hebrew wikipedia. There is supposed to be a single sign in policy for all wikis (or so I have been led to believe). At some point, I changed my user name - and now I am left with different user names on the Hebrew and English wikipedias. I would like to have only ONE. My name on he.wikipedia.org is TMagen - how do I replicate it here? TsipiMagen (talk) 11:01, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

To succesfully unify your accounts you need to request that your account is renamed on all the wikis that you edit individually, not just one. See Wikipedia:Changing username for how to do it here on English Wikipedia. Spinning Spark 11:50, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, will do TsipiMagen (talk) 13:38, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Request removal of items in history from 2007

Hi, I've had a Wikipedia account since 2007 and recently have become interested in being more active on Wikipedia and have started contributing to articles related to subjects I am familiar with; mostly related to internet technologies, as I work as a web developer by trade. Unfortunately for me, when I look at my list of user contributions, there are some history entries under my account from when I first created it which i do not remember. I would not be surprised if I did do these, but honestly, I was very much a different person in 2007 and some parts of my past are better off forgotten. I would really hate for one of my professional colleagues to stumble across this list and see these old entries, to the extent I'm actually considering I may have to close this account and set up a new account, but I'd hate to do that because, well I'd rather just not have to do that.

I don't know if it's even possible, but I'd like to beg and plead to an administrator, in hopes that somebody can help me hide or remove these old entries associated with my account. The entries I'm referring to are pretty much everything in the year 2007.

Thank you very much David Condrey (talk) 00:15, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Contributions cannot be deleted, as they must be attributed to someone. But you can abandon your old account completely and make a fresh start by creating a new one. Read Wikipedia:Clean start. You will though have to wait for four days and make ten edits before being auto confirmed. --Fauzan^{✆ talk}_{✉ mail} 07:32, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If I were thinking of hiring you as a web developer, I would not be at all concerned about your interests of seven years ago. But I would be worried by the banner at the top of your user page, "This user page is best viewed at 1280x 1024 resolution". A good web developer creates pages that look good at all reasonable user settings, rather than asking the user to change his screen resolution. Maproom (talk) 07:43, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you do keep the account, rather than going for a clean start, you might want to request WP:oversight on this edit which seems to contain your phone number (possibly not or maybe it's out of date).--Otus scops (talk) 13:00, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

David Marsden - posting error

Hi - Wiki indicates I was born in Stratford. Ontario Canada. Please change to the correct information - born in Toronto, Ontario Canada.

Thanks.

d — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.158.95.242 (talk) 00:29, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pointing out this error. I have removed "Stratford" from the article. I have not added Toronto, since Wikipedia articles should only contain facts that have been reliably published elsewhere - the idea is that readers should be able to check everything for themselves. If your birth place has been published somewhere, then please post at Talk:David Marsden so that someone can update the article. For an uncontroversial detail such as this, a page on your own website would be a good enough reference. -- John of Reading (talk) 02:37, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

name missing

I just looked on your page for list of world war 2 vets still living and don't see my uncle. His name is Gordon MacLeod and is my fathers' brother. He is living in Westville, Nova Scotia in a nursing home with his wife who is a british war bride. I know my uncle was born in October 1920 so this year he will be 94. He served overseas in the Canadian Army, thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drewster79 (talk • contribs) 00:46, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure we have an article that is a list of WWII veterans. Can you provide a link?

Maybe you are looking at Wikipedia category page. This will only include people who pass WP:GNG and have an article about them on Wikipedia - it is not supposed to be a list of all veterans. Formerip (talk) 00:52, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The page is List of surviving veterans of World War II where the OP has already attempted to add the entry. The selection criterion for that list is notability which mostly means they have Wikipedia entries. However, there are a few that have shown notability by citing reliable sources discussing them. Is your uncle famous for anything? Spinning Spark 01:40, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Referencing errors on Draft:Bernardo Ruiz (filmmaker)

Reference help requested. Thanks, Quiet Pictures (talk) 00:54, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your first problem was that each <ref> tag needs a closing </ref> tag. I've added one where it was missing. You also need to be aware that Wikipedia pages can't be used a references, see WP:CIRCULAR. --David Biddulph (talk) 02:27, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Identifying someone who committed act of vandalism or causing moral anguish to another by editing a Wikipedia article

If anything like this happens, is it possible to identify the perpetrator? Does Wikipedia have any legal remedies in place to deal with these kinds of situations? 01:58, 7 June 2014 (UTC)~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.120.155.145 (talk)

Contributors who edit Wikipedia for the purpose of harassment will generally be indefinitely blocked from editing; their edits will generally be deleted from public view.

If the contributor edited without signing into an account, then their IP address (and the time of the edit) will be visible and thus interested parties can pursue their own remedies.

If not, I'm not sure and will defer to wiser opinions... --Demiurge1000 (talk) 02:03, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) Can we figure out who it is? Yeah, that is likely within reason. Is there legal action? Probably not in most cases... See WP:LEGALTHREATS. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 10:04 pm, Today (UTC−4)

Wikipedia itself / the Wikimedia Foundation will unlikely to take any legal action against most vandals- there are hundreds if not thousands of vandal attacks every day. The subject of an article may attempt to take action against a vandal, but they would likely have a very hard time proving a case in court.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 03:06, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, identification is possible (example). -- Hoary (talk) 05:11, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The only process we have on-wiki for identifying users is the CheckUser tool which is only available to a small number of trusted editors and is used to establish that the same editor is using multiple accounts abusively. The IP addresses and other information are not revealed on-wiki by checkusers. However, the Foundation might reveal it as a result of a court order, and the ISP or organisation owning the IP might likewise identify the individual. Spinning Spark 10:09, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Just to further muddy the waters, I'll mention that although what Spinning Shark says above is correct, Checkuser is only used/necessary for registered users. An IP editor as already stated can be traced geographically using all sorts of freely available tools - two of which are at the bottom of their talk page. Although that doesn't personally identify them, it does reveal a bit about them. Chaheel Riens (talk) 10:46, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It is true that Checkuser is only needed for registered users, but is used for two kinds of sock-puppetry. It can be used either to see whether two registered accounts are being used by the same person, or to see whether IP addresses are being used by a registered user. In either case, the sock-puppetry could be for block evasion, or to stuff the non-ballot box on a deletion discussion, or for other reasons. The usual sanction will not be legal action, but blocks. (A blocked user who uses either named sock-puppets or IP sock-puppets is likely to be indeffed.) Robert McClenon (talk) 18:45, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

About (Article) Adrán Silva Moreno

Adrian Silva Moreno was´t just a freelance, at the moment when he was treacherously murdered, he was working for us www.global-mexico.com since April 2012, so he was a Real (formal) duly reporter accredited for us, we have documents filed at the government of Mexico (Secretaria de Gobernación) endorse it as a reporter, not just as a "freelance". Is a fact that you don´t have the right information, for that reason I beg you to change Adrian´s status, because we are a formal printed newspaper and have a web page, our registration information filed at the Government of Mexico is: Certificado de Licitud de Titulo y Contenido No. 15691, datos de Dirección general en derechos de autor numero 04-2012-080810135000-101, exp CCPRI/3/TC/12/19622. Please discuss the case with your staff and Tell them to get in touch with us at contacto@global-mexico.com so that we can provide the evidence that you need, thus you can corrected the word “freelance”, as I said, we have all the legal papers to prove what I said.

The link about Adrián: Adrián Silva Moreno — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xaddad (talk • contribs) 06:27, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, we don't respond by e-mail and Wikimedia staff generally do not take part in editing articles. The editing is all done by ordinary people on a volunteer basis. We take our information from published reliable sources. If you can point to a published work then please post it on the article talk page. Whatever "evidence" you may hold is a primary source and should not form the basis of a Wikipedia article. Spinning Spark 12:01, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

sign up

I am trying to create an account but, every time I enter a letter, a number or symbol under user name, I get a box saying "please choose a different name." Help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.161.92.32 (talk) 12:19, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Just keep typing. If you just type "a" the system will realise that there is already a User:A and inform you, but by the time you get to "a merry christmas to Rudolph and all his friends" you will probably find that there is not already User:a merry christmas to Rudolph and all his friends and the system will let you have it. Spinning Spark 13:56, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

WHY ARE ONLY redirected results given by Wikipedia

why does Wikipedia refuse to allow +non-redirected results ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.237.83.242 (talk) 14:16, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Can you give an example of what you mean? —Anne Delong (talk) 14:24, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

WHY DO PEOPLE ALWAYS SHOUT ON THIS HELPDESK? If you are trying to find the page you were redirected from, there is a small blue link underneath the title of the page you were redirected to. Spinning Spark 14:58, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Being banned from a page

If you get into a discussion with another editor, resulting in them banning you from their page - what is the accepted course of action if you then follow up with something that requires you to inform them of your actions and intent?

Do you abide by their wishes and do nothing, or inflame them by posting?

The reasons for my question are obvious, and I don't ask for input regarding anything other than the actual question above, thanks. Chaheel Riens (talk) 15:59, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I presume we are talking about user talk pages? If someone has asked you to stay away from their page and you don't need to be on their page then it is only polite to comply. We are much more relaxed about what goes on in user space than elsewhere. However, user talk pages are provided for the purpose of allowing communication with other editors and users do not have the power to control who posts on them. The user talk page does not belong to the user, it belongs to the community, same as any other page. If you have a need to communicate with the user, such as delivering one of the user warning templates or an AFD notification, then that is exactly what the page is for. If the user tries to prevent this then there may be a behavioural problem that needs dealing with.

On the other hand, issues with articles can (and usually should) be dealt with on the article talk page. There is really no need to take an article issue directly to a user, and if they don't want you to—then don't. Spinning Spark 17:00, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, talk pages. As per procedure I was required to inform a user of my actions via their talk page, despite them previously banning me from said page. They reverted the notification with the summary of "This editor obviously has comprehension difficulties, he or she is banned form this page" which seemed a bit unfair, nay insulting, hence my request here for clarification. Chaheel Riens (talk) 17:09, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you were required to post to their talk page, such as to notify them that you had reported them at a noticeboard, then you are required to post to their talk page. If they then insult you, then administrators who look into the issue that you raise may take note of the personal attack, and they should look out for the incoming boomerang. Were you notifying them of a report at a noticeboard? Robert McClenon (talk) 18:24, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've seen users add a request for someone else to notify the other user to their noticeboard posts when they've been asked not to visit a person's talk page. Depending on the message left and the entire history of the issue, a polite note should almost always be fine. --Onorem (talk) 18:31, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yup - Dispute resolution, the topic of which is what led the editor to ban me from his page - albeit 4 minutes prior to my required post. Chaheel Riens (talk) 18:47, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've notified the editor of the discussion here and at WP:DRN. Had the notice that you posted referred to dispute resolution, or to an edit war? Robert McClenon (talk) 19:48, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The notice referred to DRN: [1] Removed here with the queried comment.

Given the direction this thread is heading and the detail involved, I'd like to stress that I'm not after any comment on the actual topic - my original question is still the issue - if you are banned from a users talk page, are you within your rights to post a notice when required by Wikipedia process? Chaheel Riens (talk) 21:23, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you are required to post to an editor's talk page, then you are required to post to an editor's talk page. A so-called ban from an editor's talk page is not really a ban of any of the types defined by the Wikipedia banning policy, which include site bans, topic bans, and interaction bans. An editor does not have the right to ban you from his talk page. Respecting his request to avoid your talk page is a courtesy. In the case in point, Wikipedia policy outranks courtesy. Also, the statement that he was removing a bogus edit war notice is incorrect, because it was a dispute resolution notice. The one situation in which you are truly banned from an editor's talk page is if the ArbCom or the community has imposed an interaction ban, in which case posting to the other party's talk page will result in a block, and if there is an interaction ban, you shouldn't be taking the other editor to dispute resolution or to a noticeboard. As Spinningspark said, the user talk page does not really belong to the user, but to the community. If you are required to post to the editor's talk page, you are required to post to the editor's talk page, never mind the non-binding request to avoid posting. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:45, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, since BMK is arguing that the inclusion of the image is against consensus and that there is nothing to resolve at dispute resolution, I would suggest that the next step is a Request for Comments, which can establish a new consensus. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:47, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Users removing notices from their talk page should be ignored, that is a perfectly ok thing to do. We simply take that as evidence that they have read the notice. If they remove it with an impolite edit summary I would recommend ignoring that too. You can work yourself into a frenzy trying to get them censured for it if you want, but my recommendation would be ignore it and move on to something more productive. Spinning Spark 23:58, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that the OP was working himself into a frenzy about the incivility. He was only asking whether he was justified in putting the notice in the first place, which he was, because he isn't really banned from the other editor's talk page. The only questionable conduct was the incivility by the other editor. Since the other editor also has stated that he is planning to ignore the dispute resolution, I have suggested an RFC. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:17, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Robert has summed it up admirably. I just wanted to know the procedure for banned Vs required. As for the other issue, despite remarkable bad faith on the part of BMK regarding my motives, he has since replaced the image with another, rather than removing it full stop. I'm happy with that outcome, and won't be taking it any further. BMK's personal issues are just that - personal, and I doubt I'll make a difference there, nor am I bothered. We've agreed in the past, and disagreed in the past - it will probably continue in that vein. Chaheel Riens (talk) 08:00, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

James Purtill, St. Norbert Football Coach

Please correct the following: 2002 season - SNC did not play in the ncaa national play-offs. Delete the comment on losing in the playoffs. Also, that would make Jim Purtill's playoff record 1-10, not 1-11. Thank you

This can be verified on the SNC football website under schedules, 2002 shows no games played after the season final. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:301:770E:99F0:D464:22CE:E101:39E0 (talk) 16:31, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you have a reliable source for this information, you can edit the article yoruself, being sure to provide a cite to your source. Spinning Spark 17:03, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

question about where to post requests about changes/additions/etc needed to 2 pages

Ok, simple question (Sorry for pia tmi & wasted time). i want to know where to post suggestions about updating/editing info, better more accurate sources, and how to point out changes needed to the 2 pages (including adding info and sources about the Nautilus sub and changes that need to be made to reduce the offensive and inaccurate materials on the Asperger's page that have offended several disabled people who are claiming/and said they'll sue over that page if they get rich).

-Anonymousfemale — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymousfemale (talk • contribs)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymousfemale (talk • contribs) 16:43, 7 June 2014 (UTC) [reply]

This post is too long to read. Please simplify, or it will be ignored. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:26, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

To editor Anonymousfemale: Every article has a talk page, which is the place to discuss changes. Just click the "Talk" tab above the article. Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 22:46, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Contributions and Watchlist are missing

Just wondering if there is some technical error going on. 30 min ago things were fine, I refreshed the page and lost all my contributions and watchlist. Any tips? Thanks! DVMt (talk) 16:48, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you've probably checked this, but did you by any chance accidentally log out? —Anne Delong (talk) 16:59, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The editor may also have been logged out by a glitch without hitting the log out button. When I see that my watchlist has disappeared, I also notice that I am not logged in (and, if I didn't notice and tried to edit, I would be editing as a 71.*.*.*). Robert McClenon (talk) 18:29, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Phone Question

why do some phone say space is going low please remove some data to ensure stability of the phone when you have the external memory that has a lot of space — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.122.108.62 (talk) 17:19, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Does this question has to do with using Wikipedia from a smart-phone? If so, someone who edits Wikipedia from a smart-phone may be able to answer. If this question is about smart-phones in general, please try the Reference Desk. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:29, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Bobby Davison, i Resigned from Ferencvarous not sacked ! Please make sure this is corrected, many thanks Bobby

Bobby Davison

I Resigned from Ferencvarous not sacked , please correct this

Many thanks

Bobby — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.214.127.78 (talk) 19:41, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Post your comments to the article talk page, Talk: Bobby Davison, providing a reliable source stating that you resigned rather than were fired. If you don't have a reliable source, in Wikipedia's terminology, and if the article does have a reliable source, your request will likely be ignored. Your own account is not considered to be a reliable secondary source in Wikipedia's terminology, so find a newspaper article or other reliable source. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:16, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The BBC article cited says 'dismissed' [2] - so yes, we'd need a published source to the contrary. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:35, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Rick Barry

rick barry ...e ABA stands as the highest career total for a player in any professional league...NO...WILT CHAMBERLAIN....50 POINTS PER GAME...FYI — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.131.209.44 (talk) 20:16, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You are probably thinking of Chamberlain's 50.4 points per game in the 1961–62 NBA season. His career NBA average was 30.1 points per game, a little less than Barry's career ABA average. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:39, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Joel Ross

Evening All, I recently made some quite large changes to two pages, namely Jason_King_(radio) and Joel Ross. Since the edits to the latter, a number of IP users have taken exception to a single (sourced and well publicised) paragraph I have added and are removing it on a regulary basis [3][4][5][6][7][8][9]. I have attempted to warn the users about their edits. The reason I am calling for help is this culminated this evening in a newly registered user (User:Expessman89) removing the paragraph again, and adding an unsourced claim [10] (which would seem to be something only Ross would know). As this is a BLP I'm cautious over where to go with this, and how to advise new / IP editors. Many thanks for your time on this one. -LookingYourBest (talk) 20:26, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have a few suggestions. First, engage in discussion on the article talk page, Talk: Joel Ross. I don't see any discussion either by you or by the IPs. Second, you may either request Dispute Resolution or open a Request for Comments to get consensus as to whether to add the paragraph. Third, since the IPs are reverting the addition without edit summaries and without discussion, you may request semi-protection at Requests for Page Protection. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:00, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome, thank you very much for those suggestions, I'll give them a try. -LookingYourBest (talk) 21:20, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Lichfield Gazette (Staffordshire UK)

We are a news gathering publication for our town established in 2008. We run 50% editorial each month in an A4 80 page publication. I have endeavoured to publish an article in the past on Wikipedia but had it refused. Our rival publication has it's own page article on Wikipedia but is part of a larger organisation. Can you help us with getting our own article published? We are recognised by District Council, City Council and Lichfield Cathedral, all who regularly contribute to the magazine. www.lichfieldgazette.co.uk

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.20.213.9 (talk) 21:35, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Subjects of articles in Wikipedia must meet some basic requirements - essentially that reliably published third party sources not related to the subject of the article have considered it worth covering in a non-trivial manner. If your publication has been the topic of discussion by others, then you can bring those sources and follow the process here to request an article. If it hasnt, then, no we cannot help you get an article. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and not a directory nor promotional platform.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 00:01, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Should articles contain link back to disambiguation page?

If the primary entry for a name, such as John Smith, is a disambiguation page, is it expected, optional, or not permitted that the fully disambiguated articles should contain hatnotes or links back to the disambiguation page? Robert McClenon (talk) 21:56, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You will probably get an answer here but you might also ask at the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disambiguation page. MarnetteD | Talk 22:06, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

They generally shouldn't contain hatnotes. See WP:NAMB. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:13, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Referencing errors on Draft:Ayzenberg

Reference help requested. Hi - I was told that I have a missing reference list, but it looks to be included to me and I am unsure how to fix it. Can you help? Thanks, CaroJC9 (talk) 22:27, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

To editor CaroJC9: When you add <ref>...</ref> tags in the article, you do not have to repeat them at the end. Someone else has already removed them, and that fixed it. Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 22:43, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That would have been me, and my computer froze up and crashed in the middle of me explaining that. Anyways, happy editing! — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 22:48, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

June 8

Interwiki linking help

Please, tell me how to link to Wiki articles in another language. I tried using the template Languagecode:Title, as explained in Help:Interwiki linking, but I can't make it work. The link in the saved page appears as Languagecode:Title. The part of Languagecode shouldn't be visible. Thanks in advance.

Bramblebough (talk · contribs) 00:18, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think [[:pt:José Carlos Gomes da Silva|]] which will give you José Carlos Gomes da Silva is what you are looking for. You had only single square brackets instead of double brackets was the only problem. Happy editing! — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 00:42, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That is correct, but it is preferable to use the template {{ill}}, for two reasons: first, it will mark the link with the language it is in; and secondly if somebody subsequently writes the corresponding article in en.wikipedia, the template will thereafter link to the new English article. --ColinFine (talk) 09:35, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Purple cow

Can anyone help restore a reference that was accidentally deleted from "the purple cow " page? [sjpap]] R — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sjpap (talk • contribs) 10:31, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have fixed the article by undoing your edits. For this material to be part of the article, at the very least you will need to include a reference to show that it is a notable parody. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:38, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

images

Can anyone recommend any places to find copyright free photographs, for wikipedia articles?GiraffeBoy (talk) 10:09, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The best place is probably Wikimedia Commons. Hogyn Lleol (talk) 10:40, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Outside of Commons, Flickr is often worth a look. Not all images there are free, but it has a facility for a free image search and Commons has a wizard that makes importing from Flickr easy. I have also found that Flickr users are frequently willing to change the licence to something Wikipedia compatible if you explain tho them what you are doing with it. If the article has versions in other languages, it is also worth looking at them, they are somtimes using images that are not on Commons. Another resource I have found helpful for historical articles (second half of 19th century after invention of photography) is out of copyright books and newspapers. Gbooks and the Internet Archive are useful here and my library membership also gives me free online access to several newspaper and magazine archives. I think that is quite common so check with your local library. Spinning Spark 11:25, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Guy Madison:

The movie HELL IN NORMANDY was not listed in his filmography. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.7.74.139 (talk) 12:49, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Guy Madison#Filmography already includes Testa di sbarco per otto implacabili/Hell in Normandy in 1968. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:35, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Incomplete AFD nom

Could someone complete the AFD nomination at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cooper Seay. (I've been using twinkle to do AFD noms so long I can't rmember how to do it manually.) RJFJR (talk) 14:36, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done per WP:AFDHOWTO. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:52, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Can we add some more difficult items of advanced chemistry in it?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greatsaugat (talk • contribs) 16:21, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Into what? This section is discussing the rock musician Cooper Seay. So on the face of it the answer is no, but I expect you meant some other article. Spinning Spark 17:38, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That might have been humor. On the Internet, no one knows if you are being sarcastic. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:17, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think this person may have just not known to make a header. Happens all the time. If so, Greatsaugat, we need more info, because your question is nonsensical without it. - Purplewowies (talk) 03:37, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

more information on Bill O'Connor

I was merely trying to make a contribution to the article about my father Bill O'Connor of the American league, as you have nothing about his personal life as you do for so many others. But i have yet to figure out how to do that. Cheers Catherine "Kate" O'Connor Cole — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kate. cole (talk • contribs) 18:22, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Kate. Your wording suggests that you tried to edit the article Bill O'Connor (American football), but in some way your attempt did not succeed; but I can't find any evidence of this. As far as I can see, nobody has edited the article since March. However, since you have only just created this account, I guess that you tried to edit the article without logging in, and something went wrong; but I don't know what without you telling us.

In general, anybody, (logged in or not) may edit most articles. However, we strongly prefer that all information added is reference to published reliable sources; and for articles about living persons, this is a requirement: unpublished personal knowledge (even purportedly from the subject themselves) is not acceptable, as readers have no way of verifying it. See WP:verifiability for more about this.

There is a further issue in your case: as he is your father, you have a conflict of interest, which is likely to make it hard for you to write in the required neutral tone.

Please see the articles I have linked. Your best bet is to explain on the talk page Talk:Bill O'Connor (American football) what you would like to see added to the article, with references to published sources, so an uninvolved editor can make the changes to the article. --ColinFine (talk) 18:56, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Reference Desk question

I recently replied to a question on the Reference Desk. The whole thread was almost instantly deleted, because the original poster was a banned sockpuppet. But the thing is, I was genuinely interested in the question and was wanting more input on whether my reply was correct. Am I allowed to make another Reference Desk question about the matter or would that count as helping the banned sockpuppet on their cause? JIP | Talk 18:36, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I would say ask a new question. Posts from known disruptive socks are routinely deleted on sight at the ref desk. There is some disagreement there on what to do if good faith replies have already been made as deleting them can drive away those editors, but a completely new post should be fine. Spinning Spark 18:55, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

how to access 'sheet music'

I want to study the score (sheet music) of a song composed by G F Handel called "Silent Worship". The first line is "Did you not hear my Lady" Hope to learn how to access data from Wikipedia: I certainly do not understand it now - though I've struggled with it all afternoon.MFO 78.150.95.250 (talk) 18:51, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, MFO. I'm not quite sure what you're asking, or expecting. Wikipedia does not usually hold the text or music of works. Occasionally it may, and sometimes it may have a link to a source of the text or music; but in the case of Silent Worship, it does not. I'm afraid that Wikipedia is not an appropriate tool for what you want. On the other hand, googling "Silent Worship music score" led me to this, which may be what you want. --ColinFine (talk) 19:01, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

My user name (moniker)

I recently initiated contributions and chose RDthree as my user name/moniker, but it turns up and displays as Rdthree, which was not intended and makes no sense. How or is it even possible to change the lower-case d to upper-case D without causing undesirable side-effects, such as losing one's contributions altogether and having to start all over again? Thank you.Rdthree (talk) 19:12, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

See, Wikipedia:Changing username. Ruslik_Zero 19:42, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Babel links on sidebar

How does one change the way that a language name is displayed in the babel section of the sidebar? Over at WP:VPR, someone's asked that we change a pair of names ("čeština" to "češky"; "slovenština" to "slovensky"), and the only response so far is someone saying "I don't think that's possible here". I'm inclined to think that's right, but if anyone can think of a MediaWiki page that controls those things, I'd appreciate it. I'd also like to know where to go to request changes in general: is this done at Bugzilla, or Meta, or somewhere else? Nyttend (talk) 19:46, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Nyttend: I would have thought that the ones that are now controlled by Wikidata (ie most of them) would have a page on that project that could be edited, but I can't find it. Possibly the language name is taken from a configuration file on the home wiki, but I don't know. I suggest you ask at WP:VPT or on the #wikimedia-tech online chat channel. Spinning Spark 13:49, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Bruce Jonston

I was privy to have spent time in camp hill with him as my bunky. He has nine bullet holes in the front and eight in his back where they went through n through. One still lodged in his left shoulder i do believe. I heard the story and so too the life as a witness to be protected. The movie didnot do justice to his [plight. To be caught up in a world where the rat was the best friend must'ev been scary. To see how his dad was turned from thief to murderer due to the props that the informant laid out just too stay alive really sucks. Yea i knew bruce, and would like to reminace one day. He was not a mass murderer. Such as his father was turned into. Nor did he condone such the atrocity. Goin straight after his love was too taken really took its toll causing a drug addiction and depression to the extremes. Im sorry he never got freed and so pray he does one day, find freedom and prosperity. Rg3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.103.41.193 (talk) 20:54, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Probably about Bruce Johnston (criminal). Maproom (talk) 06:58, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Article on Kevin Corcoran

There were NO PHOTO'S???? Nothing Currant or Otherwise...I was dying to see what he looked like today lol

I have searched the internet and all I find are photo's when he was a Disney Child Actor.

Jeff — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.201.178.194 (talk) 20:59, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Jeff. Unfortunately, getting decent photos, particularly of living people, is difficult for Wikipedia, because most of the photos which are easy to find (on the net) are copyrighted, and so may not be used in Wikipedia. But you say you've tried looking on the net anyway. In that case, I fear that the only way WP will get a picture of him is if somebody snaps one, and then agrees to donate it (licence it under CC-BY-SA or similar). --ColinFine (talk) 16:13, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Original Article about the subject "Witch"

Hello,

I wish to thank Wikipedia and the contributors which have made this subject grow to its' current level of quality. I am the person that started the subject of the word "witch". When I wrote the first article about the subject, it was my full intention to get other people to improve upon it.

I originally visited Wikipedia with the intention of researching the subject for myself, but there was no such subject on Wikipedia. I decided that if I started this subject, then others would carry on with its' improvement, and I am absolutely overjoyed to see how it has grown! I do apologize for the controversy that it caused. As I said in my original e-mail, my entry, was just one facet of many, and I expected, and was excited to see what others would contribute to it. I certainly was not attempting to "pedal my religion" at all.

Thank you for all of your hard work... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.43.245.5 (talk) 21:38, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Help uploading picture

can someone help me upload a logo to a page it was deleted for copyright reasons. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hallissy (talk • contribs) 23:32, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Place request here: WP:FFU. Mlpearc (open channel) 23:34, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

June 9

reference formats

My references are all pdf & jpg. How do I put those in References. Only 1 docx seemed to work.

Thanks,

Allan Mann re: Earthlight (theater company) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allan H Mann (talk • contribs) 01:05, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

see WP:REFB for help on formatting references. note that pictures and pdfs from your website are generally not going to qualify as reliably published sources. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 01:22, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple subfamilies/subclades

Hello. Is there a way to add multiple subfamilies to a species. I wanted to add one but it didn't show the subfamily I added. I think this would help a lot to find the phylogenies of species. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.207.64.18 (talk) 03:36, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You attempted to add a second sub-family to the genus Cocalodes. A genus cannot simultaneously belong to two different sub-families in the same classification scheme, so there is no facility in the infobox for doing that. The sub family you were trying to add, Spartaeinae, is already listed as a (different) sub-family on the Salticidae page. Spinning Spark 13:59, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest that you read Taxonomy (biology) or Linnaean taxonomy to understand that the tree in biological taxonomy expands from the top, and that one species, or any other lower-level taxon, cannot belong to two subfamilies, or any other higher-level taxons. That is what makes taxonomy contentious, in that there are often arguments about what genus, subfamily, or family a species belongs to. You might not have known that, but that is just the way that biological taxonomy (or any other taxonomy that is modeled on it) works. It is a one-way tree, unlike family trees of individuals, which can have inbreeding (and always have inbreeding if you go back far enough). Robert McClenon (talk) 16:08, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Robert, are you replying to me? Your indent indicates that you are, but your words indicate something else entirely. Spinning Spark 16:57, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I was replying to the OP, as you probably inferred, and so probably should have used a different level of indent. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:05, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

BMD Artists New Zealand

Hi, I'd like to make a page for the Street Artists BMD from New Zealand.. can this be done, please aid.

their site is www.bmdisyourfriend.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Milarkyside (talk • contribs) 05:29, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You can do this at Articles for creation. See Wikipedia:Your first article for some advice on writing articles. Spinning Spark 15:36, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Planet Records Europe

Hello i'm contacting you for a Title name problem. As you can see by yourselves " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_Records_Europe " The title is " Planet Records Europe " this is a problem because the company , first is active, second its name is not " Planet records Europe" but Planet Records, third and last there are a lot of certifications and external links and pages that show that this company is "Planet Records" I saw that there's an existing eng. page with Planet Records name, in this case what we can do to insert in english Planet Records? cause Planet Europe is incorrect ,, the company is known worldwide and is active and i suppose that this causes a bit of issues with the label's image... Contat as son as possible .

Kind Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dottorgrasso1988 (talk • contribs) 09:21, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The usual solution when two articles have the same name is to add a disambiguating term in brackets like Planet Records (<foo>). You could have, for instance, Planet Records (Milan). Decide what you want the disambiguation term to be and then make a request at WP:RM. Spinning Spark 15:57, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

liquid bridge

We were looking for an article on the Australian movie LIQUID BRIDGE starring Ryan Kwanten that is not listed in Wikipedia. The movie was produced and directed by well known Australian Phil Avalon, who discovered Mel Gibson in his film SUMMMER CITY. Can you please add this information it to file. Thank you Olga Kay. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.176.105.215 (talk) 09:44, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It seems it's already there (and has been since November 2012): Liquid Bridge. AndrewWTaylor (talk) 09:48, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

How close is the Wikipedia/Wikidata to the semantic wiki capability?

I am curious how to best obtain the answer to the question such as, for example, "How many people were born in the year XXXX by gender" or "by country" or both. While Wikipedia has categories for "births by year", there's no category for "births by gender by year" or such. It is my understanding that the theoretized semantic wiki could answer such a question, and that Wikidata has aspirations to be (at some point) such a wiki. Correct me if I am wrong, and I'd also appreciate information how one could go about obtaining answers to such questions at this time. (If there are any replies here, I'd appreciate an echo/ping). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:10, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia's categories apply to Wikipedia articles, not to people. So WP may offer a way to answer "How many people notable enough to have WP articles were born in the year XXXX by gender". It may have, or have had, aspirations to answer questions about, for instance, "people"; but I don't think its categories help with this. Maproom (talk) 11:34, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

He is talking about the separate Wikidata: project. I have seen a page on the project giving the state of progress but cannot find it off-hand. You might be better off asking there, but we do have a page on Wikipedia for Wikidata. Certainly there are properties in the database for all the things you mention. For instance a query of "instance of" P31=human, "sex or gender" P21=male, "date of death" P570=31 March 1727 should find all males who died on 31 March 1727 including Isaac Newton. How complete the database is and how comprehensive the answer you would get is another question. @Piotrus: Spinning Spark 12:58, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata item properties can be invoked with the parser function #property. I couldn't explain how to use it, but I know that it is working, I have seen people using it in templates to retrieve the correct national flag for instance. Spinning Spark 13:05, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Spinningspark: I have asked at Wikidata too ([11]) and it appears that project does not have the query functionality live yet; in fact it appears that our article on it seems to be more up to date than the project's official description at [12]. Would you know how to run a query you described there? Also, any thoughts on dbpedia? Seems useful, but their help pages are not very good, and I have no idea how to use their query system neither :( --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Piotrus: You have probably had a better answer at Wikidata than I could give you. I cannot tell you how to format Wikidata queries because the system hasn't been developed yet, and by the sound of it it is not going to be as powerful as you need when it is. The tool Autolist seems to be what you need. I did not even know this tool existed until I saw the answer to your question on Wikidata, but I can interpret the query format for you if you do not understand it already. For your example of female Americans born in the summer of 1914, the query string

between[569,1914-06-21,1914-09-21] and claim[27:30] and claim[21:6581072] and claim[31:5]

was used. The number 569 refers to property 569 (P569) and is the property "date of birth". The statements in the form claim[p,q] mean items that claim to have value q for property p. For instance, claim[31:5] means "instance of human" (P31="instance of" and Q5="human") —needed since you do not want the query returning racehorses born in 1914 for instance. The other two claims are "gender:female" and "citizen of:USA".

The easiest way to find these P and Q numbers is to look in the statements on the Wikidata page of an example of the thing you are trying to find. The statements are arranged with the property on the left in the table and its value on the right. For instance, on the Barack Obama page if you hover over "Sex or gender" the tooltip will tell you this is "property:P21" and if you hover over "male" it will tell you "Q6581097". If you have tooltips turned off you will need to click through the link to find these numbers. Hope that helps. Spinning Spark 09:09, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Request for an article

Hello - if we provide the information, can someone can develop a Wikipedia article for us? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SunderElephant (talk • contribs) 13:09, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, through the request an article process. Make sure that the material you supply includes significant content about the subject that has been published in a reliable source. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 13:12, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I see that you have already created a draft User:SunderElephant/sandbox. it looks like you might have a couple of appropriate sources in there, but wow - i would suggest you read a couple of articles and try bring what you have created more in line with them. here is an article about an animal that would be a decent role model: I'll Have Another -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 13:25, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Computer locks on downloading of .pdf file of article after several hundred kb

Hi,

My quickest solution so far is to turn off the computer and reboot. This problem appeared perhaps a month back. How can I fix this? I like to save some articles for offline. Just a few minutes back I tried to download an article on Thunbergia and it locked. I'm reluctant to shut down files in Windows Task Manager. This is a Windows 8 machine.

Thanks.

D — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doobydander (talk • contribs) 19:54, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps.Template:Z37 Darylgolden^(talk) 00:11, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This looks like a problem with the Wikipedia book creator. I would suggest reporting it to the techie village pump.--ukexpat (talk) 12:33, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

How to change subject

I would like to change the page name Yonkers brewing to Yonkers Brewing Co. Any idea how to do this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JackieRubbo (talk • contribs) 20:58, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If the article in question wasn't blatant advertising, and actually provided evidence through published third party sources that it met the relevant Wikipedia notability guidelines to merit an article, the correct procedure would be as explained in Wikipedia:Moving a page. As it stands, this would be a complete waste of time - we aren't here to provide free advertising space. AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:05, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The original poster doesn't have the Move tab enabled because he isn't autoconfirmed. If he makes at least 8 more edits, including edits to the article to indicate Wikipedia notability guidelines, then he will be autoconfirmed and will be able to change the name of the article. As it is, the article is tagged for speedy deletion as excessively promotional and not meeting notability guidelines. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:13, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the original poster has a conflict of interest, because he is either one of the founders of the company or related to one of the founders of the company, and so should not have created the article. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:16, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Date formats

I'm inputting a lot of dates in a discography, and per WP:DATE#Formats I am using the recommended YYYY-MM-DD format, both because month and day are otherwise ambiguous, and because the year is of primary importance.

The problem I've run into is situations where a recording session lasts for several days. An easy example is e.g. June 4th & 5th, 1950. Rendering this as "1950-06-04 and 1950-06-05" is clumsy and bloated.

Harder examples include, in mdy format, "4/30-5/1/1950" (which looks more natural and easy to interpret than dmy); and in dmy format, "15,17,18/11/1950" (which to the contrary looks more natural and easy to interpret than mdy).

This would be easier if the YYYY-MM-DD format did not require hyphens and disallow slashes. For instance, my examples could otherwise be rendered as "1950/06/04-05"; "1950/04/30-05/01"; "1950/11/15,17,18". (And easier still if Roman months were still allowed, as "1950/VI/04-05", which completely eliminates ambiguity.)

In a long list I'm trying to be as concise as possible while still being clear and unambiguous. Any recommendations? Milkunderwood (talk) 23:29, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

WP:DATERANGE does not cover ranges in this format, but I think the only clear way to do it is to give both ends of the range in full separated by a spaced en dash, eg 1950-06-04 – 1950-06-05. Other than that, use a different date format. Spinning Spark 01:52, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I thought about using a spaced en dash with YYYY-MM-DD for a simple continuous range, but that still leaves something like "15,17,18/11/1950" looking awfully messy. I would tend toward the informal UK format M/D/YYYY as best accommodating these different situations; but as we all know, there are Wikipedia editors who are sticklers for the rules, and I don't see that format listed as being approved. The last thing I want to do is create a long list only to have it objected to (or worse, deleted, which has happened to me). Milkunderwood (talk) 02:10, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Two comments, first YYYY-MM-DD is not really a generally recommended format. Although it is the only acceptable all-numeric format, it's not for general use. Second, the other formats have fewer issues with ranges (as mentioned in the MOS). FWIW, I have occasionally used something like "1950-06-04 to -05" or "1950-06-04 to -07-02" in that situation, but not in the context of Wikipedia. And those aren't really very pretty either, and I'd generally try to use something like "July 4-5, 1950" instead. Rwessel (talk) 01:58, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Aha. I was trying to avoid spelling out months, but this actually does sound like the best solution. Thank you. Milkunderwood (talk) 02:13, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Question: for discontinuous dates, e.g. "Aug 24 & Sep 3, 1950", is the ampersand acceptable or is "and" required? Milkunderwood (talk) 02:52, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:AMP seems a reasonable starting point. Rwessel (talk) 03:07, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you again. Since this list is not running text and I'm trying to conserve space as best I can, I think "similar contexts where space is limited" is probably appropriate advice. Of course it will always depend on the context. For instance, "Aug 10, 1950 and Apr 4, 1951", but "Nov 15, 17 & 18, 1950" seems not inappropriate. Milkunderwood (talk) 03:23, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That's probably a poor example. "Nov 15, 17, 18, 1950" would work better there. Milkunderwood (talk) 03:30, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

June 10

Links to an external site with possible copyright violation

Recent edits to Owain Arwel Hughes and to Gwahoddiad have added a link to a video clip on Youtube that I suspect may be a copyright violation. See talk:Owain Arwel Hughes.

The clip is here. The recent Wikipedia edits say the material is from a BBC television program, Songs of Praise, but it appears to have been posted to Youtube by an individual unconnected to the BBC.

Is it against Wikipedia policy to include links to external sites which we suspect may be copyright violations? We are only posting links to questionable material, but The Pirate Bay were sued for doing just that.

Should these edits be reverted? Verbcatcher (talk) 00:45, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No, copyright material should not be linked, and yes it should be reverted per the WP:CV policy and the WP:ELNEVER guideline. Leaving it up is contributory copyright infringement. Spinning Spark 01:30, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've also removed the links from the talk page too but left enough clue as to what was being discussed should a source be found. CaptRik (talk) 12:55, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Photomontage

I'm trying to design a photomontage for a settlement, however I'm having a massive problem with black bars appearing at the bottom of some of the images, which must have something to do with the ratio of each image. Is there a way to bypass this problem and get rid of the bars? These are the images I'm working with (and the irritating black bars that come along with them)...

Ballarat from Black Hill, St Peters Anglican Church, Queen Victoria statue, Bills Horse trough, the Ballarat Post Office, Her Majesty's Theatre, historic building in Central Ballarat]]

Help, please. Ashton 29 (talk) 07:23, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not to cast dispersions on the Help Desk but you might find better help at Wikipedia:Graphics Lab which is meant for this kind of thing. Dismas|^(talk) 07:43, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict). Dismas is right. But now that I have this typed in here, I'll say it anyway:

Maybe I'm missing something here – but it seems inevitable that you will get these black bars if the images you pair up in the same row have different heights. Or rather, since you have used "size=300" to resize them all to the same width, that they have different aspect ratios.

Here is a tedious way to deal with the problem.

Download all seven images.
For the six paired images, note their aspect ratios, and sort them accordingly. Pair them in sort order, so that each is paired, as far as possible, with another image of similar aspect ratio.
For each pair, trim a little off the width of the relatively longer one, or off the height of the relatively taller one, or both, so as to give them the same aspect ratio.
Resize them all to the same width, that of the least wide; except the double-width one at the top, to twice this width.
Use a graphics program to assemble them into a montage.
Upload the montage to Commons.

Or you could just reduce the black bars by using the Photomontage tag as you have, but pairing the images as described above. Maproom (talk) 07:53, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

How to link a word in 1 article to an article already present in Wikipedia?

Hi, I have recently edited the page Google Hummingbird. There the name "Danny Sullivan" was linked to an article about a racer name "Danny Sullivan" (Danny Sullivan), while the article clearly meant to redirect to Danny Sullivan (technologist). I have removed the link but am not sure how to link to the correct Danny Sullivan. Please advise. BhaskarCopywriter (talk) 11:00, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You do it with a pipe. I have fixed the article. Spinning Spark 11:13, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi sir how create reference links

Hi sir how create reference links — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr.Lokeswara Rao (talk • contribs) 12:09, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Take a look at WP:Referencing for beginners, Dr.Lokeswara Rao. - Purplewowies (talk) 12:28, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Unreviewed Articles

I have several 'unreviewed articles', which are live on the internet but are yet to be 'reviewed'. I have been waiting for one of them to be reviewed for five months. How do I bring these articles to the attention of an 'appropriate' editor? Gomach (talk) 12:35, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Here is as good a place as any, and I have just reviewed William Taylor (ophthalmologist).--ukexpat (talk) 12:44, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks. The others are Croftinloan School (five months), Alan Watson Featherstone (two months) and Doug Mitchell (film producer) (one month).Gomach (talk) 12:52, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Doug Mitchell (film producer)

Done, will look at the others.--ukexpat (talk) 13:00, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done and

Done.--ukexpat (talk) 13:16, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you - very much appreciated. Gomach (talk) 13:33, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

politics in Nigeria

why was my article declined or rejected for publcationDrizu (talk) 13:54, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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