User talk:El C

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For you

El C, contrary to your edit summary- I noticed you were gone, and missed seeing you on recent changes. You are one of my favourite editors. This is for you. Regards, dvdrw 04:34, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Yay! Many chipthanks for the kind words. Greatly appreciated. Best, El_C 06:49, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Well I noticed and missed you! (Official circular here). Novickas (talk) 12:40, 30 September 2008 (UTC) Thought of you while uploading this picture [1]... for all of your work. Novickas (talk) 17:35, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks! El_C 11:27, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm sort of in a hole and am having difficulties submerging. Speaking of holes/that chippie, I got to do some visiting in its burro recently...

Later, adding even more festive decorations, and inspected the whiskers:

And some drinky-drinky as well as rubbing under chin:

Also, two days ago I got to rub a cheekadee's tummy(!); for a handsome reward, of course:

Love, El_C 11:27, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

You look really good in your purple hat! Bishonen | talk 00:19, 4 November 2008 (UTC).

Free hat! Today, while cheekadeepetting, this lady who saw us from a far, came over and said: "Can I tell you something...? You're an angel of God."(!) To which I of course replied: "All hail Atheismo!" [nah, I said: "thank you, maddam, that's very kind of you" — what else could I say?] I took an especially neat cheekadeepetting photograph today: it remained visible between my thumb and index as it flew away, giving the illusion it was bee-sized! What an unexpected, and sweet, effect! El_C 02:48, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Wow, Capitano, where do you get a large enough sweater for a person with that hand? Bishonen | talk 20:18, 5 November 2008 (UTC).

And then there's Skunky! El_C 14:00, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Oooo. Purdy!

Combine obvious love of animals with photography results in photographic win! — Coren ^(talk) 15:09, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Great to learn that peoples (plural!) like! Chickadee says hi! El_C 14:00, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings

Here's some peanuts for Hidey. He hasn't got any!

Hello. Thanks, SqueakBox 23:14, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Wishing you the very best for the season. Guettarda (talk) 00:26, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Thx, everyone! Happy 2009! El_C 12:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Happy Groundhog Day

Happy day! Jehochman ^Talk 19:52, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Chippies

El C, I've been meaning to ask for ages. What is the link between revolutionary socialism and chimpunks? Did I miss that bit in Animal Farm? Is it something to do with resting the means of damn making from beavers? --Joopercoopers (talk) 11:39, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

No link; but are you referring to Groundhog? (see left) There is a Groundhog-Chippie connection, which I was trying to further cultivate (see right). El_C 11:48, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

"Love is in the air ....dooooo .....dooo.dooo ......doooo ......dooo.doooo ." --Joopercoopers (talk) 11:55, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Book?

Let me know when it is out, and you will up your sales by one. :-) KillerChihuahua^?!? 09:22, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

4Tality Fractal

1. Four Facets of existence: 1. Matter 2. Energy 3. Space 4. Time

2. Four Dimensions: 1. 1D 2. 2D 3. 3D 4. 4D (temporal)

3. Four Fundamental interactions: 1. Strong 2. EM 3. Weak 4. Gravity

4. Four States of matter: 1. Solid 2. Liquid 3. Gas 4. Plasma

El_C 07:19, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

tank

free image.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Leclerctank.jpg

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Amanbir Singh Grewal (talk • contribs)

No thanks, it's too low quality. El_C 21:54, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

You live!

It was really nice to see you pop up on my watchlist! Guettarda (talk) 22:07, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, nice to be seen! El_C 22:18, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

• glad to see you active again! —usernamekiran(talk) 12:03, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

• Thanks—let's see how long it lasts! El_C 12:08, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

same ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:10, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

/bows El_C 12:19, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

I saw a similar thread here, also by Guettarda: He lives! - Only, he doesn't. I keep his smile and best phrase on my talk, second-best phrase: "Be sure to kneel as you type." - Great that we live! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:54, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Sad, but yes, it's good to be alive! El_C 13:27, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Paulo Kassoma and President of Liberia

List of Presidents of Liberia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:205:1304:73DA:0:0:75:30A0 (talk) 13:31, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Why are you removing "February 2010" in Paulo Kassoma? El_C 21:02, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Why are you removing images from President of Liberia? El_C 21:12, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Nasty personal attacks in need of revdel

An IP editor (70.235.158.228) you blocked has made some extremely nasty personal attacks and has threatened to out editors. Most, if not all, of their contributions probably should be revdelled under RD2. If you can help, that would be great. – Teratix ₵ 01:37, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, was away. El_C 04:15, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Jones College Prep High School

Thanks for the protection. It's clear we've straightened out the issue, so can you please lift protection? Thanks! John from Idegon (talk) 12:36, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

 Done. El_C 13:38, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. Had a bad day yesterday with noobs. This one worked out. One out of three. Woo hoo. John from Idegon (talk) 16:23, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

2017 Tehran attacks

The category Category:Terrorist incidents in Iran in the 2010s which I added to 2017 Tehran attacks is a valid category and part of a (populated) series re terrorism in Iraq and is similar to other countries Hugo999 (talk) 10:14, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

It was redlinked at the time. El_C 10:16, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

GMO

Thank you. This area has been very quiet for a long time now and we are getting some decent articles up. AIRcorn (talk) 00:14, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Fer sure. Keep up the good work! El_C 00:16, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Revert Reason

Hi, I noticed that you reverted this edit without a reason in the edit summary, and you flagged it as a minor edit. It seems like a legitimate addition to me, so I was hoping you could explain why you did it. Thanks! AlexEng^(TALK) 19:30, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

The same thing was added to 18 articles. El_C 21:22, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying. That makes sense. AlexEng^(TALK) 21:24, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Happy times

Anytime I see your name around. TonyBallioni (talk) 04:39, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

FROM ALL SUBJECT! El_C 04:42, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Notice of noticeboard discussion

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Softlavender (talk) 12:31, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Jeppem

I see you blocked Jeppem7 (talk · contribs), you might want to also take a look at Jeppem2 (talk · contribs). Ivanvector's squirrel (^trees/_nuts) 12:41, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, I blocked all of em. Jeppe123eee (talk · contribs), too. El_C 12:44, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Bordeaux–Mérignac Airport

You locked the Bordeaux–Mérignac Airport page with disputed content which violates several WP policies left in place. I would be grateful if you would revert it to the last revision by User:SovalValtos.Charles (talk) 12:45, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, I can't be favouring versions. El_C 12:48, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

A maintenance template was also incorrectly removed and you should disfavour content which clearly violates policy.Charles (talk) 12:51, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

You are free to take this to RFPP#Current requests for edits to a protected page. El_C 12:56, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Better things to do. The adverts can just stay until the lock expires.Charles (talk) 13:01, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/37.171.126.141

I don't think this was vandalism. Check the article for context. I was just about to make the edit on the IP's behalf then I saw your block. — MusikAnimal ^talk 13:12, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

My bad. Unblocked. El_C 13:21, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Your 3RR block on 46.211.8.191

Hi El C! I'm just letting you know that I've unblocked this IP (a procedural unblock only) because it's part of a range (46.211.0.0/16) that I've just blocked for two weeks due to IP hopping vandalism, disruption, and other abuse. There's little doubt in my mind that this situation is related to the others - take a look at the range contributions and you'll probably agree. ;-) If you have any questions, concerns, objections, or input regarding this range block and what I did - please let me know (ping me in your response here) and I'll be happy to discuss it with you. I doubt that you'll have issue with what I did, but I figured I'd let you know just in case. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 12:17, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi. All good, they can register an account if they wish to continue editing SpaceIL, in light of the disruption from that range. El_C 12:27, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Mughal Maratha wars

Bro, please read this page thoroughly. It's being edited every day. Very many uncited and misleading claims exist in the article. It's heavily biased in favour of a particular faction. Chippy pest (talk) 13:40, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Feel free to correct these, but we don't fully protect pages for these reasons. El_C 13:43, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Can you partially protect it? Chippy pest (talk) 13:46, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

At least, the infobox. Web results Mughal–Maratha Wars - Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki › Mugh...Chippy pest (talk) 13:50, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

It wouldn't make a difference. You are having an edit dispute also with registered users. I suggest you take your (detailed) concerns to the article talk page. El_C 13:52, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Sudan

Hi Reuters confirms the news. --Panam2014 (talk) 08:14, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Not sure a provincial govt. minister counts as a reliable source for us. Best to wait for the official announcement and its confirmation by mainstream sources. El_C 08:17, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Reuters is reliable, so if Reuters decided to cite him, his claim became reliable. --Panam2014 (talk) 08:20, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

They are being more cautious than you about it. Sorry, you're gonna have to wait at least an hour. El_C 08:21, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

In this case, we could write "Sudan's Bashir steps down, government sources say". --Panam2014 (talk) 08:31, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

We are an encyclopedia not a newspaper. El_C 08:32, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Doing it is not writing a newspaper because the sources who relayed the info are reliables. The information is relayed by lots of sources. --Panam2014 (talk) 08:34, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

We wait for official statements, as confirmed by mainstream sources. El_C 08:35, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

It is not enough if we add the fact that it is the claim of sources quoted by Reuters. I think we should ask for others opinions. --Panam2014 (talk) 08:37, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

That's what the article talk page is for. But an hour break from editing the article seems rather mild to me. El_C 08:42, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Masterofthename behaviour

Hi you have warned Masterofthename here Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Masterofthename reported by User:Shemtovca (Result: Warned )

I have tried to have a reasonable conversation, he has suggested that i add it properly to the article which i did earlier today. His response to that was to add most of it again under a different subject and accuse me that he that i am working with some sort of gang and am lying... Can you please help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shemtovca (talk • contribs)

Blocked for 24 hours. El_C 00:36, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. Shemtovca (talk) 00:37, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi, just wanted to highlight that innuendo continues here Shemtovca (talk) 16:14, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Breast Tax

I have told the truth about the breast tax myth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:D08A:7EC6:F414:C38F:FD74:220D (talk) 09:45, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Please use the article talk page to gain the consensus for your changes. El_C 09:48, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Please refer to this - https://rarebooksocietyofindia.org/book_archive/196174216674_10152112262136675.pdf. Women of ALL classes used to bare their breasts. There's no proof for the legend of Nangeli other than from the mid-20th century; which shows that it's a myth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:D08A:7EC6:F414:C38F:FD74:220D (talk) 09:51, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

You need to present this on the article talk page, with a more detailed citation (quotes, page numbers). El_C 09:54, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

OK, will do it. Thanks for the diplomacy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:D08A:7EC6:F414:C38F:FD74:220D (talk) 09:55, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Not at all. El_C 09:57, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadar_climber - I've added a line here with a citation. Is this OK? (I agree that exploitation was there - but most of the sources cited for this breast tax are from books written in the 90s, so it's most likely a myth) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:D08A:7EC6:F414:C38F:FD74:220D (talk) 10:03, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Yet again, please use the Talk page to gain the consensus for your changes. El_C 10:05, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Changing quotes

Hi, can anything be done about this user? They are constantly changing punctuation in direct quotations and adding commas in random places. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 07:46, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi. I dropped them another note. Let me know if this continues. El_C 18:54, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

They are back with a new IP. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 12:01, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

I just semiprotected for a month. El_C 12:15, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. :) Krimuk2.0 (talk) 18:01, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Blocks

I noticed you've been doing very long blocks on dynamic IP addresses, frequently set as a hard block ("Prevent logged-in users from editing from this IP address" set). I also noticed that you marked one of your blocks as a checkuser block – Special:Contributions/84.1.247.135. I assume that was an accident, but only checkusers should mark blocks as checkuser blocks – there are special rules for these blocks, making them harder to appeal. Also, non-checkusers probably shouldn't do hard blocks unless they're blocking something like an open proxy. There's no way for non-checkusers to ascertain the collateral damage. Generally, if you want to do a hard block on a non-proxy, I think it's best to ask a checkuser to see if there's collateral damage. If you see someone evading a block from a mobile network operator, you should definitely not do a hard block, and you should probably keep the block length short, like 24–48 hours. Blocking these IP addresses for 3 months will likely cause many random internet users in the same general geolocation to be unable to edit. If you're blocking these IP addresses because they're proxies, you should label them with {{blocked proxy}}. Proxies, webhosts, and stuff like that can be hard blocked for months (or even years), but they should be properly labeled so that people know how to appeal (for example, {{Colocationwebhost}} gives advice on what to information to provide in the unblock request). I apologize for coming across with an attitude like "hey, only checkusers can do that!", but hard blocks can sometimes cause lots of problems for innocent users. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 01:32, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll try to be more mindful of this. El_C 01:43, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Regarding new article Cow vigilante violence in India

I had created the article Cow vigilante violence in India. As far as my knowledge of rules goes, redirecting a new article is deletion, and that must be done via WP:AFD. But two users are redirecting without consensus. He even reported me as edit warrring to the administrator notice board, which was found as no violation by you [2]. I have mentioned my view on the talk page, but others are not replying anything to it. They just want to merge it to subset of the subject, that is violence after the year 2014. Is consensus required to create a page, or is it required to delete a page? Please let me know. Soarwakes (talk) 08:59, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Consensus is not required to create an article, but it is required for deletion. Redirection is not deletion, however. I fully protected the page to end the chronic edit war, so I suggest you and the various participants (and perhaps others editors via a Request for comment) try reach consensus on the article talk page. El_C 09:06, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

The guy is still reverting instead of taking it to WP:AFD. His report at Admin notice board for edit warring was dismissed as no violation. [3] Should I leave it and move on? Soarwakes (talk) 08:07, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Again, redirection is not deletion, so they are not obliged to to take it to AfD. Maybe try dispute resolution. El_C 13:23, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, I have posted in Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Talk:Cow_vigilante_violence_in_India. Let me see what he replies there. Soarwakes (talk) 04:25, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Fatehpur Sikri

Hey , why u deleted the right content?? Kumarpkp (talk) 11:44, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Because it made no sense and lacked punctuation. El_C 11:47, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Unfair Deletion of the Content

Hello, As per my understanding you have done the unfair deletion of the content from the Page using "Placement is too promotional". If the content is present in the following wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnyaneshwar , how this can be removed. It has been written what Samadhi means and the same was added to the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meditation. Kindly review. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Winchetan (talk • contribs)

Because the Meditation article represents more than just Hinduism, and having that picture at the beginning is biased. It's best you take it to the article talk page and see what other editors think. El_C 11:10, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

protecting the notre dame cathedral fire page

Thank you for doing it, disabling the ability of easy adding nonsense and radicality. Even though users like me then cannot edit entirely, I appreciate it. 208.54.36.166 (talk) 12:52, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Fer sure. You are welcome. El_C 12:53, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:NoCoRadioAdvocate reported by User:MB (Result: 24 hours)

Now using an IP to sock on KBPI, 69.11.193.91 (talk · contribs · WHOIS). Nate • (chatter) 00:03, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Semiprotected for six months. El_C 00:06, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much; can the same be applied to K300CP? Nate • (chatter) 00:09, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Done and done. Also extended the user's block to one week for block evasion. El_C 00:14, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Again, thank you. Nate • (chatter) 00:33, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

The New York Times Best Seller list

Hi, earlier you protected this page due to a long term vandal changing it to "New Fart Times". Within 24hrs of the protection ending, two IPs appeared making the same Fart vandalism. I assume the vandal has some sort of automatic reminder. They usually geolocate to the same city (though not always). -- GreenC 13:21, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Semiprotected for 2 months. El_C 16:18, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Lars Sullivan

Hello, El C. Sorry to say, but I disagree with your comment at WP:RFPP regarding Lars Sullivan. In the last 7 days we have seen deliberate factual error
deliberate factual error
unsourced content
unsourced content
unsourced content
unsourced content
and either vandalism or factual error.
This article is also a BLP, so we should be trying to avoid vandalism even more on an article on a living person. I do understand some of these edits might not stand out as disruptive to someone unfamiliar with the subject matter. StaticVapor message me! 04:36, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Okay, I stand corrected. Not sure how I missed that — I'm usually pretty good when it comes to RFPP (or so I'd like to think!). Semiprotected for one month. El_C 04:41, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Protection

As far as I'm concerned you can throw long or even indefinite semi-protection at them. That LTA is someone with nothing better in his life than this. Drmies (talk) 01:16, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, 3 months is a bit optimistic, isn't it? Feel free to amend. El_C 01:19, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Maybe. Maybe I'm wrong. Thanks--I appreciate the protection. Drmies (talk) 01:25, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Why was Report On The Investigation Into Russian Interference In The 2016 Presidential Election changed to "pending reviews" status?

Hello,

I was curious was to why you applied pending changes to the page? The page is not even a day old and users need to be able to add new information as it comes out without being contested. I find it excessive to apply pending changes so soon. Users can revert content when they see fit, of course appropriately. Thank you. Aviartm (talk) 01:38, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

See WP:RFPP#Report_On_The_Investigation_Into_Russian_Interference_In_The_2016_Presidential_Election. Disruption has already began, and I'm not sure I see the harm of pending changes being attached to the article, even at this early stage. El_C 01:47, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

I see that put for a whole year? And as the user who asked for Pending Changes, it was IP users who were doing the disrupting. Why not WP:SEMI protect? That would've and is the perfect page protection needed instead of a whole year of slowing down updates to the page whilst thwarting IP users disrupting the page. Aviartm (talk) 01:57, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

There wasn't enough disruption to warrant semiprotection, I felt. But as mentioned on the article talk page, I'm more than willing to reconsider if there are further objections. El_C 02:04, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Alright. Let's continue talking over there but don't you think that WP:SEMI is less severe than pending changes? Aviartm (talk) 02:14, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Let's. But no, I do not. Quite the contrary. Since it still allows nonconfirmed users to submit edits — it's just that those edits then need to be approved by confirmed users. Whereas semi wholly excludes nonconfirmed users from making edits. El_C 02:17, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Indef_of_OP

I took the liberty of adding "of OP" [4] to your (Result: Indef) since otherwise it appeared to indicate that I was indeffed. Meters (talk) 10:32, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, that's fine. El_C 18:16, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Partycity

This may be of interest to you. Thanks. John from Idegon (talk) 04:34, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Blocked for 48 hours — I'll update AN3, as well. El_C 06:00, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Telecommunication § Digital cinema

Hi El C

This information is OK see :

Alexandru Georgescu (et al.), Critical Space Infrastructures. Risk, Resilience and Complexity, Springer, 2019, p. 48.

Best,

Stephen C. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.13.234.144 (talk) 10:03, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

I'm just not sure that the passage fits into the article, because it was speaking about one film in particular rather than discuss the phenomenon with respect to how it connects to Telecommunication, in general. You should take it to the article talk page to see what other editors think. El_C 10:08, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Never mind, on closer look, it looks like I was in error. Sorry about that. El_C 10:17, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:Editnotices/Page/Saudi Arabian-led intervention in Yemen

Hi, this dates back to 2017 but was misplaced on this article. The associated 1RR condition is for topics relating to the Syrian Civil War or to ISIS/ISIL, which this article is neither. Thanks. Onetwothreeip (talk) 05:35, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

See Saudi_Arabian-led_intervention_in_Yemen#Al-Qaeda_and_Islamic_State. El_C 05:41, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Pending changes confusing

Greetings El C. You recently applied Pending Changes protection on the Mueller Report article. This is quite confusing as questionable revisions by IPs collide with revisions by auto-approved editors. A lot more work must be done to undo things or apply simple copyedits. Please consider switching to semi-protection. Thanks! — JFG ^talk 08:28, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

I'm just not seeing that much editing by IPs to warrant this change at this time — please feel free to comment at Mueller_Report#Why_was_the_page_applied_with_Pending_Changes_status? As an aside, I noticed you made a similar edit to one of mine (I was immediately reverted). El_C 19:16, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Then why not drop pending changes? Do you think there's ongoing likelihood of vandalism? The flurry of news and analysis following the report's release has calmed down already. — JFG ^talk 16:25, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

There was an IP whose changes was reverted yesterday, so I think it's still fine, for now. But if more editors petition me to remove it, I'll reconsider. El_C 17:19, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Reducing full protection on Template:2018–19 Serie A table

Hi, The edit warring problem on the Template:2018–19 Serie A table has been settled, so you can reduce the level of protection so that edit can be made and also because there's a game today and that edits must be made. RafaelS1979 (talk) 13:31, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

 Done. El_C 19:17, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! RafaelS1979 (talk) 20:10, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for page protection#Alligator gar

I agree with your assessment that RPP isn't the correct board. Per my comments at RPP? - In this case, the person requesting the RPP...yeah, they seem to be wrong on at least one grammatical count... Shearonink (talk) 01:01, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. Yeah, the best way to resolve this is for the involved parties to stop reverting and bring it to the article talk page. El_C 01:05, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	thanks for removing vandalism .localhostdotdev (talk) 01:14, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the recognition! Much appreciated. El_C 01:19, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

RFPP

Hi El C,

Thanks for this page protection a couple of weeks ago, it has dealt with the disruption on the article. Unfortunately, the same person has now taken their campaign to the talk page. Any possibility of some level of protection there? (And/or a block on that IP.)

Thanks, JBL (talk) 12:00, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Okay, I semiprotected the talk page, too (for one week). El_C 18:05, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Monroe additions 23-APR-2019

Hi, I've reviewed the request for addition of material to the Monroe Calculating Machine Company and approved only two items:

1. That Monroe was purchased by Arlington (with a {{cn}} tag added because the provided source did not confirm this)
2. That Bill Ault was COO (along with the reference from Monroe which does confirm this)
3. The request to add anything concerning Monroe beyond those two items above was declined.
4. The request to add information concerning Arlington beyond it being mere owner of Monroe (specifically the executive lineup) was declined.

As you're monitoring this page, I thought I'd let you know here, too. If there is a problem with any of this, please feel free to either revert it, or ask me and I will revert it immediately. Thank you!  Spintendo  22:04, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi. Sounds good, but I'm just the admin who responded to the RfPP regarding this. So I'll leave the content decisions to the respective editors, like yourself. El_C 22:10, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Edit warring

Hey, I just wanted to chime in here, as an independent observer, in case you felt any action was required. You recently locked down List of independent wrestling promotions in Canada over content disputes. One user has specifically stated that they have multiple accounts that they will use to abuse editing [5]. In addition they have made it clear that they do not have any interest in communicating to build an encyclopedia [6]. To me this sounds like a user who is WP:NOTHERE to help fulfill the mission of Wikipedia but to push their own ideas, but I am reaching out to you since you are the admin involved in locking the page. - Galatz גאליץ^{שיחה Talk} 16:04, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Blocked indefinitely. El_C 16:09, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! I just was about to mention this comment too [7] but I guess not needed, ill revert it since its completely WP:UNCIVIL. - Galatz גאליץ^{שיחה Talk} 16:10, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Edit Warring on 'Forum for Democracy'

Yesterday me and MrClog got into an edit war on the article 'Forum for Democracy' and because you were the admin that locked the page because of vandalism, I thought I should reach out to you.

We both accused each other of being biased towards or against the political party and to prevent an edit war I went to his talk page to try to find a consensus there. His point was that you can call a party 'far-right' in the sidebar if some sources (in this case Al Jazeera, Telegraph and Politico; All foreign sources) refer to it as such. I said the party doesn't identify as far-right, has distanced itself from the far-right and that most sources do not refer to the party as far-right (and gave sources, including their own party website arguing the party is actually more of a 'middenpartij', meaning centre-party.), yet he says these do not count as reliable sources. This is fine and we can have a discussion about this, but before we ever reached a consensus he has already reverted all my edits, including edits that don't have anything to do with this discussion and are relatively undisputed. If you ask me this reeks of promoting a political bias on his side and I would love to talk it out, but he doesn't seem to be willing to listen to my points on how to make this page more politically neutral.

Especially because he also removed contributions of mine that had nothing to do with this discussion, it doesn't seem to me like he's acting in good faith.

Thanks for the time -Freerka (talk) 23:31, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

The place to discuss the changes is on the article talk page — why have you yet to do this? The onus to do so is on you as the one who implemented these. El_C 23:37, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Ah, thanks! I will move my criticism on his user talk page to the article talk page. -Freerka (talk) 23:40, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Regarding the Edit Warring on Fraser Anning's Conservative National Party page

Hello, I suppose it's reasonable that the page was locked by you. I have come here to request a reversion of the page as stated here WP:PREFER. I was acting in good faith to keep most of the edits in place, which was why I wasn't simply reverting the page, and why I was allowing most of the content to stay with only minor edits instead of just reverting everything that was posted in a blatantly biased manner. Large numbers of the citations used on the page are almost entirely irrelevant and contradict the guidelines placed out at WP:RS and WP:NPOV in which journalists are used as a factual source despite those journalists not being able to objectively prove their position. Since people on the page have an issue with my edit, and my edit was in issue with their edit, I would request that a previous version before all of this began be reverted to until a consensus has been achieved on the talk page (which I admit I didn't realize was a per-requisite for editing a page, I thought the rules and guidelines on content quality took precedence). This version here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fraser_Anning%27s_Conservative_National_Party&diff=893158435&oldid=893031161 was before all of this dispute began and was an edit that was not made by myself and is therefore more neutral than either of the pages used in the current dispute. Thanks. Sundeki (talk) 02:02, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, I am not familiar enough with the content dispute to be comfortable in applying that edit to the protected page — so, unless you can definitively show that there are BLP violations, etc., you will just have to settle with the wrong version for the duration. El_C 02:08, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Okay. After the lock has run out, will I be able to revert the page to the stated previous page (so clearly I'm not the one getting everything I want either, as I have issue with that page as well, but at least it's not totally biased) without it being locked again if another edit war occurs? I am unfamiliar with administration on Wikipedia, and so I ask: which page takes precedence as the locked page when an administrator locks it? Thanks for your responses. Sundeki (talk) 02:14, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

No version takes precedence — the one that's up at the time of protection is the one that's retained. I wouldn't put the horse before the cart, however. Work on reaching consensus actively, please. El_C 02:16, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Oh I have been trying quite hard to reach a consensus, but now I don't feel as though one particular user is acting in good faith. If you review the relevant talk page, you will see I have written detailed paragraphs of the issues, cited and quoted specific sections of the rules/guidelines as why, and broke down other user's statements specifically. In return I get dismissive one line comments that refuse to engage with anything of note that I've said, instead getting responses that show that they are not acting in good faith to reach a consensus and will reject every piece of evidence and rule quotation I bring forth and then proceed to revert the page immediately. What would happen if this particular user and I will never see eye to eye because they want it all their way and my compromises are not enough to get them to reach a consensus? Will the page continue to be locked over and over with longer times? until the article basically becomes a dead wasteland? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sundeki (talk • contribs)

My suggestion to you would be to try to get more editors involved, if need be via a Request for Comment or other forms of dispute resolution. El_C 02:31, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Okay, Thanks for your help/time. Sundeki (talk) 02:34, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Injustice and vigilantism (but not on Wikipedia)

Hi, I found my way here from a recent block you made, criticized by others but considered long overdue by me. But I'm not neutral on that topic so perhaps not a worthwhile opinion. More importantly, I just wanted to say how wonderful the quote from Che on your talkpage is. In many ways it sums up how I view life (and others) and how we should deal with it. I have added it to my userpage, I hope that is OK with you.

I see you've also been dragged into the excitement over whether articles about Cow vigilante violence should be redirected. I have edited some of these articles repeatedly, but I chose not to get involved in that discussion because I am not totally sure how such decisions are made. And I'm not sure that I want to know :) I hope it all works out for the best. MPS1992 (talk) 21:40, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, yes, that's absolutely fine. Regarding the block, I feel like I've been more than fair in that instance. All the best, El_C 22:43, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Civility Barnstar
	Thank you for being civil during contention. Manabimasu (talk) 02:43, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the barnstar! El_C 02:44, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

UK vs. US spelling

In New York city, doesn't follow "rules": Chinese Community Centre — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:6000:CA82:9800:BD8D:12D3:EC9E:8983 (talk) 04:49, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Because that article involves the US, while the Treaty of Nanking involves the UK. El_C 04:53, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

I also started a discussion about it on the article talk page. Please feel free to participate there. El_C 04:57, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Three-month block

Isn't a 3 month block too much? Can this block be reduced to, at least, one week? -- 177.135.52.200 (talk) 04:41, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

They were already blocked for one week, then 2 week, then one month. So, 3 months was the logical conclusion. The next block is likely to be six months. El_C 07:41, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Is there any necessity to keep this block for so long though? -- 186.213.48.126 (talk) 04:23, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

It's a matter of routine here — keeping disruptive anon IPs blocked for increasingly longer duration. Why do you ask? El_C 05:29, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

I was asking just in case a consensus that the Estado Novo was Fascist is reached, I will need to revert the edits by JPratas if this happens. -- 177.42.139.19 (talk) 20:07, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

I don't understand. What's wrong with your current IP? What IP is this regarding? El_C 20:10, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

My IP keeps changing many times for some reason, I don't know why, I'm not doing this deliberately though. -- 177.42.139.19 (talk) 20:19, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Okay, I figured it out. No IP has been blocked, you are just asking about the 3 month semiprotection that I applied to Estado Novo (Portugal) and related-articles. Regarding this, I have no immediate intention of reducing the protection length as there has been far too much edit warring by multiple IPs — if consensus is, indeed, established thusly, there is no shortage of logged-in users to apply these. El_C 20:28, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Just for curiosity, Wikipedia has for many years considered the Estado Novo a Fascist regime, JPratas then decided (very likely because of personal political views) to try to change that, so, technically, shouldn't JPratas be the one who needs to seek consensus for this?

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User:Afg96

Hello. The reported user (User:Afg96) has now made a fourth revert plus another personal attack, in spite of getting an extra message on their talk page warning them not to continue reverting... - Tom | Thomas.W ^talk 19:31, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Blocked for 24 72 hours. El_C 19:35, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

• And now they're evading their block, using a static IP: 2001:630:D0:5001::/64 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · block user · block log). In their last post on Talk:University of Bologna Afg96 quoted EB, just like this IP does in their edit summary... - Tom | Thomas.W ^talk 20:14, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

• Block increased to 2 weeks; page semiprotected for the duration. El_C 20:21, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	For quickly fulfilling my RfPP requests * Pppery * has returned 20:01, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Many thanks! Glad to help. El_C 20:02, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Facelift the references?

Hi, fellow Wikipedian. I saw your edits on the references in the Poway synagogue shooting article. Why did you delete the cite web templates and replaced them with plain text? What does "facelift" mean? —Wei4Green | 唯绿远大 (talk) 23:28, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

I didn't delete anything — there were just plain urls. El_C 23:31, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

You may have accidentally deleted them in your first edit. —Wei4Green | 唯绿远大 (talk) 23:35, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Oh yeah, sorry about that. But it looks like it's been sorted. El_C 23:44, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

No worries. :) —Wei4Green | 唯绿远大 (talk) 03:09, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/81.99.45.208

The IP keep adding unreferenced genre. Can you block him/her? 183.171.115.47 (talk) 04:29, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

 Done. El_C 04:32, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

Not that protection would hurt

But I'm pretty sure Anaxial and I are quite finished. 199.247.43.106 (talk) 06:50, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

Glad to hear it. Yeah, that was just an emergency measure. El_C 06:54, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

PP

Hi, El C - you PP'd Alligator gar on April 22, and said 4 days - it is now 7 days and it's still full PP. It is possible that I counted wrong, but I doubt it. If it was supposed to auto-unPP by a bot, it failed. ^Atsme _Talk 📧 20:20, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, it looks like the bot was not doing its job. I just removed it manually. El_C 20:36, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Akhtar Raza Khan Page

Hello El C, I just wanted to discuss why the changes on the Akhtar Raza Khan page were removed. The added mentions were just about his son who succeeded him in his position, and that too with appropriate references. Moreover, I notice that you wrote that Kanthapuram A.P. Aboobacker Musliyar was the "Grand Mufti of India" - this is disputed in India as it was a self proclaimed announcement and I think it is wrong to be asserted on Wikipedia as a fact - unfortunately the Kanthapuram A.P. Aboobacker Musliyar page is locked due to vandalism so I am unable to make an amendment to this. I believe that the Wikipedia editors/administrators have been duped into asserting this as fact. For reference of the dispute, see the reputable Indian Newspaper "The Hindu". Please do let me know if you require any futher information. SunniObserver786 (talk) 20:41, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

They were removed and the pages were protected because we have had it on Wikipedia with the back and fourth between the two factions. My suggestion is to launch a proper Request for comment on the talk page of Grand Mufti of India where this can be settled once and for all. El_C 22:48, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

References

seeking advice

I'm new in Wikipedia so I need some help and advice Mustaphajajjage (talk) 00:28, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Sure, what do you need help and advice with? El_C 00:31, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Happy Adminship!

Wishing El C a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Coffeesweet (talk) 18:46, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Has it been x-many years? El_C 18:47, 1 May 2019 (UTC)