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    Requests for page importation

    This is a place to request that pages be imported with history of pages from other Wikimedia Foundation wikis to here. This might be done if a page was copied and pasted from a WMF wiki to here, or, in the case of the Nostalgia Wikipedia, to make very old revisions accessible. Administrators can import pages from Meta, Commons, the Outreach Wiki, the Test2 Wikipedia site, and the German, Spanish, French, Italian, Polish, and Nostalgia Wikipedias to the English Wikipedia (see Phabricator task 22280 for relevant shell permission requests, and to request permissions for importing from more projects). It is also possible to indirectly perform a transwiki import from other projects by using step-wise process through a third project that has a project mapping already created, although using the export/import process may be simpler.

    Guidelines for admins

    Check the history of the source page before importing. If there are overlapping edits between the source and destination page, import the edits into the MediaWiki talk namespace, since it is very rarely used. Follow this procedure, where "foo" is the title of the page in the English Wikipedia and "bar" is the title of the source page:

    1. Import "bar". When asked for the namespace, select "MediaWiki talk".
    2. Move "foo" to "MediaWiki talk:bar". When asked whether you want to delete the page, answer yes.
    3. From the "move succeeded" window, there is a link to the page history at "MediaWiki talk:bar". Activate it, perhaps in another tab or window, and there will be some text in the form "View or restore xxx deleted edits?". Activate the link associated with that text and undelete the imported edits that you need. The remaining edits will stay safely deleted in the MediaWiki talk namespace.
    4. Revert the move you made in step two. Uncheck the box that says "Leave a redirect behind", since redirects from the MediaWiki talk namespace are useless. If you want, you can use the "revert" link in the "move succeeded" window. The page move should go without a hitch.

    The same procedure can be used when there are no overlapping edits, but in this case, it's best to move the page first, so the import appears in the page history.

    In general, do not use the "assign edits to local users where the named user exists locally", leaving this off will indicate in the history the project the edits came from and you won't have to worry about non-created accounts here.

    See User:Graham87/Import for guidelines on importing from the Nostalgia Wikipedia. There is a log of all page imports at Special:Log/import.


    • Language: es:Manuel de Alday y Aspée
    • New name: Santiago Manuel de Alday y Aspée
    • Note: Created with "this article will be translated within a few hours. You are free to help translate it though beforehand", importation will provide attribution regarding the source of the translated text. Please only import up to es:Special:Permalink/19194649. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 00:06, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Note by importing administrator:
      @DannyS712: RFPI is normally pretty quiet - what is driving all of these "ancient" requests? — xaosflux Talk 00:10, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      @Xaosflux: Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/Dr. Blofeld - Should I batch them instead of posting them one by one? DannyS712 (talk) 00:11, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      I'd like to hear what Graham87 thinks about this - as these are requiring not just a transwiki, but also dealing with not incorporating over 10 years worth of edits for example. — xaosflux Talk 00:13, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      @Xaosflux: that is why I check the histories ahead of time to specify which revisions should be imported - so that the histories aren't intermingled. DannyS712 (talk) 00:54, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      In general, is there a policy about whether or not translations should be imported, or if a talk page note is enough? DannyS712 (talk) 00:55, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      @DannyS712: policy not really (the closest would be components of the copyright terms of use) - the {{translated}} talk page template is a good idea, even if doing a transwiki history merge. When using the transwiki import function there is no "only these" versions options either, so it is not like it is "easy". — xaosflux Talk 01:02, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      And when using things like WP:CXT, the histories don't come over at all - so it certainly isn't required. Some languages care a lot more about this (esp. German) so most of the RFPI's we get here are actually from dewiki users. — xaosflux Talk 01:03, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      @Xaosflux: so are you doing all of these via upload? Sorry for the trouble DannyS712 (talk) 01:06, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      @DannyS712:, edited upload - or full transwiki, revision removal - and maybe some page moves depending on how clean we'd want it to look - the import tool hasn't seen much development in a while. — xaosflux Talk 01:08, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      @DannyS712: see File:ImportinterfaceCapture.PNG for a picture of the import interface. — xaosflux Talk 01:11, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      @Xaosflux: I've used the tool a bit. Are there any specific improvements you want? File a phab task and I'll take a crack at it DannyS712 (talk) 01:14, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      @Xaosflux and DannyS712: I'm generally meh about these ... a talk page template is good enough per the page at Wikipedia:Translation, but page imports can be done if you reeeeeeally want to. I prefer imports from old English Wikipedia databases or Meta, personaally. These are relatively easy to do using the upload interface by deleting the relevant parts of the XML ... but I'll cease doing them unless there's a compelling reason/preference for them over a normal talk page template. Graham87 02:12, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      OK, so for the few that are out here, we can do them - but @DannyS712: lets hold off on more without determining a bigger need for this specific use case? Maybe if there can be a rougher estimate on how many there would be? Certainly feel free to (a) make sure there is an interwiki language relationship if the topics still match and add {{translated}} tags to the talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xaosflux (talkcontribs) 14:08, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      @Xaosflux and DannyS712: Redoing ping. Graham87 07:32, 18 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    •  Done, but see above. Graham87 03:45, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      @Graham87: After scanning through Dr. Blofeld's contribs (new pages in mainspace only) and looking at edit summaries to locate likely suspects, I have found at least 32 more created before 20091231235959. I'll try to figure out a manageable way to post them DannyS712 (talk) 08:37, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]