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Notification that and article was successful submitted?
I have written and submitted my first article using the article wizard. When at the end of the wizard, I added "submit" (with the brackets and subst:submit) at the beginning of the article and then clicked "publish". However I never re=eived a notification that it was successful submitted. I am guessing that it is in the public drafting area, but how can I be sure? And if so, how, and how long will it take to find out if the article is successful? Desmond123x (talk) 02:10, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
- Desmond113x Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. "Publish changes" should be understood to mean simply "save changes", it does not actually submit your draft for review. I have added the appropriate information to allow you to do so. 331dot (talk) 02:16, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
Noob/. Grammaraguy52761 (talk) 03:23, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
Desmond123x (talk) 04:41, 2 October 2020 (UTC) 331dot
Hi, I hope that I am writing this correctly. Thanks for your links. I have been thought the beginning intro and I have been practicing the last few weeks using visual editor with a friend - who is also a beginner (but a bit more seasoned). I have also spent the last weeks writing the article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Desmond123x/sandbox. I have been looking at a number of good YouTube videos on how to proceed. They have been enormously helpful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyK-hzYYPfg&frags=wn&ab_channel=WikimedianinResidenceUniversityofEdinburgh and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJooaYYQveY&ab_channel=WritingforWikipedia%28w4w%29.
I have tried to submit our article several times using the methods spelled out in these videos. The "move" tab appears to be missing, so I have gone through the "article wizard" and hit "publish". (with subst:submit on top)
What do I do next to submit my draft for review?
- I have submitted Draft:Brit Bunkley draft of your behalf this time. The next time you can simply put
{{subst:submit}}
on the draft and hit the publish button. If you copy it from here, please copy it as it appears when viewing the page. Reviewing is a slow process, it may take a few weeks or more, but if you are lucky you will hear back a lot earlier. Note that the move button will appear earlier or later on itself when you are WP:AUTOCONFIRMED, though I strongely recommend using the review process, at least until you get the hang of the things. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 06:09, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
Thank you so much! (I thought that I put {{subst:submit}}
in the submission, but I may have put it in the wrong place or spelled it incorrectly. And I put it in a later edit after hitting the publish button.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Desmond123x|Desmond123x Desmond123x (talk) 00:04, 5 October 2020 (UTC)]] (talk • contribs) 23:41, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
Redirecting a song link to the album page
How do I redirect a song title, which doesn't have an article, to its album's article? Countrymusic75 (talk) 00:53, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- Countrymusic75, Wikipedia:Article wizard/version1/Ready for submission may help. Best ─ The Aafī (talk) 01:07, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- Hello Countrymusic75. The magic way to get good advice on many things is to type "WP:" followed by a plausible keyword into the search box. In this specific case, WP:REDIRECT will take you to the main page that explains redirects. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:22, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- And there's this bit of magic, which basically makes the redirect for you: Wikipedia:How to make a redirect —valereee (talk) 12:49, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
New page for existing wikidata item
I would like to create a wikipedia page for St Paul's Church Cambridge.
There is already a wikimedia category: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:St_Paul%27s_Church,_Cambridge
And also a wikidata item: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q26632397
Ideally I'd like to be able to pull facts from wikidata, for an infobox, but I'm unsure how to do that in a draft page. I have seen example markup like: {{Wikidata Infobox}} which seems to use the wikidata item associated with a page. How could I do that in a draft page, which I don't think would have a wikidata item associated with it.
Thanks for your help. AndyGordon (talk) 09:56, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- As you will see from Template:Wikidata Infobox, that is for categories, rather than articles. There are templates for various types of articles, listed at Category:Infobox templates using Wikidata, but I can't see anything immediately obvious for churches, or even for buildings in general. Many editors here in enwiki are reluctant to rely very much on Wikidata. One reason is because of its fundamental problems in being limited to one-to-one mapping whereas the structures vary from one language to another hence the mapping isn't one-to-one. Another reason is that the information in Wikidata is not within the control of enwiki editors. Other editors may have different views. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:10, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
David, thanks for your help! AndyGordon (talk) 11:08, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- @AndyGordon: The alternative is to look at Template:Infobox church for the standard infobox used in mainspace. Then copy/paste the parameters into your draft article and start filling them out from Wikidata or elsewhere. I took a look at a few existing articles on smaller UK churches to get a feel for the sorts of things normally included. Michael D. Turnbull (talk) 13:40, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- @AndyGordon: If this Grade II listed church is your topic, you can find some information (date of construction, etc.) on the Historic England page I've linked useful for filling in parameters of {{Infobox church}}. If you can access a copy, the Pevsner volume cited there under "SOURCES" might also be useful. For the geographic coodinates, you can use {{coord|52.1976|0.1294|type:landmark_region:GB|display=inline,title}}. Deor (talk) 19:25, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
Michael, Deor: thank you for your help! I will try to track down that Pevsner volume.
I've created a draft page here: Draft:St Paul's, Cambridge Not using Wikidata at present. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndyGordon (talk • contribs) 11:14, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
The page is now accepted. Fantastic. How do I link it to the Wikidata item mentioned above? Maybe I add a link to the enwiki page from Wikidata? AndyGordon (talk) 11:57, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- @AndyGordon: One thing you can do is add
{{commons category}}
to the new page and they would in principle link. However, your article title and the Commons category are not the same (Commons uses St Paul's Church, Cambridge), so I'm afraid it goes beyond my pay grade! Help should be at Template:Commons_category#Resolving_discrepancies but perhaps someone more experienced can step in.... Michael D. Turnbull (talk) 13:33, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
Orphan
Hello. How does one go to De-orphan a Motion Picture or Television show article? - Wzth Regvrds, Ghxstee | Dzscussixn 13:04, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- Hello, Ghxstee, and welcome to the Teahouse. You de-orphan any kind of article the same way: by inserting links to that article from other suitable articles. See orphan, --ColinFine (talk) 13:16, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- Yes but what I was asking is how to find related article. - Wzth Regvrds, Ghxstee | Dzscussixn 13:35, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Ghxstee: See WP:DE-ORPHAN. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 14:05, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- Ghxstee, if you let us know which article in particular you are trying to de-orphan, we can give you a step-by-step example if you're having trouble understanding the instructions. —valereee (talk) 12:37, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, I did not find any of these instructions helpful. Thank you. The article is 2 Hours Love. ‘Found it in the category.
- Ghxstee Normally, one goes to the article and checks, for example, its director/stars/production company etc to see if any of them have WP articles of their own. Then you could, if appropriate, go to those articles and add a link back to the orphaned article, stating for example that the director had directed that one. In the specific case of 2 Hours Love I had difficulty finding existing articles but presumably a link from Telugu cinema would be OK? There may be others that occur to you. Michael D. Turnbull (talk) 13:45, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, I did not find any of these instructions helpful. Thank you. The article is 2 Hours Love. ‘Found it in the category.
- Ghxstee, so what I did was this: 1. See how many of the actors have an article. 2. Make a wikilink to those articles. 3. Go to the actor's article. 4. Make a link back to the film's article. That's how you de-orphan, and that's how you find the related articles -- by seeing what in the is mentioned in the article might have an article of its own, then (if appropriate) linking the two articles from both directions. I found two of the actors had an article; you can look at my edits at both articles to see what I did for the first one. See if you can do the same thing for the second actor's name in the film article. —valereee (talk) 14:09, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Yes but what I was asking is how to find related article. - Wzth Regvrds, Ghxstee | Dzscussixn 13:35, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
Hello, I need help from an admin/someone who knows how to help
I know I've made a post here before, but I think I'm gonna need some real help now, I've been debating on the interracial marriage wiki and its clear to me that someone is here to abuse report, but I'm not sure what to do because I also suspect them of sock puppeting, but I might be wrong and I might just have to take it to a Dispute Resolution, I don't wanna do something thats going to get me into trouble because I love editing wiki and I'm so glad I'm part of this community which I have trust in, I just want some help on this situation because I think its way over my head -- Toby Mitches (talk) 15:33, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- Note: Cleaned the talk page up a bit, posted to AN at WP:AN#Interracial marriage, watching the article and editors in dispute as they talk to each other and report one another, will chime in where appropriate or when asked. Usedtobecool ☎️ 03:22, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
Where can I report a user not using the edit summary?
Where can I report a user not using the edit summary? This is his/her chronic behavior already.
Special:Contributions/Sea29
It is very annoying that he is not responding to any messages left on his/her talk page. HiwilmsTalk 20:36, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Hiwilms:, I guess we do not have any procedural guidelines about this? Once I gave same warning to someone and they happily removed it from their talk page saying that they're highly contributing to the encyclopedia and continued using no edit summaries. WP:FIES doesn't say anything such either. ─ The Aafī (talk) 20:51, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Hiwilms. Ideally, every edit should have an edit summary that explains why it was made, but the reality is that many don’t. Sometimes it might be obvious as to why an edit was made, but other times it won’t. Not providing an edit summary might be the kind of thing that is brought up as part of a broader discussion about an editor when there are other more serious problems with there edits, but I don’t think your going to have much success at a place like WP:ANI if that’s the only problem. If you come across edits that you think are clearly problems per some Wikipedia policy and guideline and you can fix them, then feel free to be WP:BOLD and do so; just make sure you leave an edit summary explaining why. If you’re not sure, then you can ask for clarification about the edit on the concerned article’s talk page and see what others think. Whether the editor who made the edit decides to participate in any such discussion is up to them, but they won’t be able to ignore a WP:CONSENSUS established by such a discussion.Editors aren’t required to respond to posts you leave on their user talk pages; of course, it’s often helpful when they do, but they’re not obligated to do so. If, however, they’re “notified” about something, choosing not to respond doesn’t mean they’re not responsible for their edits. If you find they keeping repeating the same problems over and over again, you can seek input from an administrator, either by posting on an administrator’s user talk page or at one of the administrator noticeboards. — Marchjuly (talk) 21:44, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- While there is no designated place to report someone for this, as shown by above responses, there are user warnings for it. They are: {{subst:Uw-editsummary}} (for newer users) and {{subst:Summary2}}. When you put these on a user talkpage, remember to take the parts out of it in the source code that says "nowiki." Ghinga7 (talk) 23:17, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Hiwilms: I can see your point about the "chronic" lack of edit summaries by Sea29. Of their 7,300+ contributions, c.94% have no edit summary (check here), and I see that over the years this has been raised with them on half a dozen occasions. As an administrator, I do find this a little concerning, though they do now seem to be editing in good faith. However, I don't think you were at all fair in leaving your latest request for them to use edit summaries and then coming here just 11 minutes later to complain they have not responded. It is respectful to give people a bit more time than that! I was pleased to see that they did attempt to improve the use of edit summaries after being rather firmly reminded by another editor last May, though their performance has rather dropped off again since, which is a shame. Edit summaries really are helpful - both for other editors and for oneself when trying to differentiate between past edits. You know, they may not even be aware that it is possible to change their Preferences here so that they are prompted whenever they forget to include one. Nobody seems to have ever told them that. (I have this option ticked, and I find it really useful.) I will, however, keep an eye on their edits and their talk page and see if things improve in the future, before perhaps giving them a slightly firmer reminder, as it's clear a number of other editors have found the lack of summaries quite irritating. Let's hope things improve. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:23, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- In fact I'm not sure this person has ever posted to a talk page anywhere, including their own? There are a few talks that show a single edit, but a spot check showed they were automatically generated because the editor moved the page. The edit summaries they've provided are idiomatic, so I don't think it's a communications difficulty. I've provided explanation at their talk both of why people keep harping on edit summaries and how to switch on the prompt (which I keep turned on, too, and find quite useful in keeping me in the habit). —valereee (talk) 13:24, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
Soul Button Page
I want to get an article published about a Berlin-based DJ, but I was only able to create it as a draft (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Soul_Button) and it looks like it will take a while before anything happens with it. What can I do to speed it up? Monwiki1001 (talk) 23:07, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse, Monwiki1001. There is nothing you can do to hasten our team of volunteers, except perhaps ensure that their job is made easier. Some articles get reviewed very quickly, but with a 3,500+ backlog, others can take 2 months or more. To be frank, when revewiers encounter promotional, non-encyclopaedic waffle like
"After deepening his knowledge and now having gained a vast array of experience in the music industry, it was only natural for the culmination of his own label."
or"Having cemented himself firmly in the scene, Soul Button maintains focus on the continuous growth and development of his labels as well as his own personal career"
they're liable either to move on to something easier, or simply glance at the sources and reject it on the basis of failing to meet our notability criteria (see WP:NMUSIC), and lack of any independent, in-depth sources. So, you should look at our notability criteria for musicians and assess whether or not Soul Button meets them. Your task is to ensure sources show that he does. Work on that and perhaps then cut out the waffle - that way you might stand a chance of speeding things up. Hope this helps. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:35, 4 October 2020 (UTC) - @Monwiki1001: You submitted before the draft was ready for review. How do I know? Because the sources are all either "first party" sources, sources which are designed to promote the subject you are writing about, or sources that only give minor coverage to the subject. Please read WP:Notability, WP:Notability (people), WP:Notability (music), WP:Independent sources, WP:Reliable sources, WP:Biographies of living persons, WP:Citing sources, and at least skim WP:What Wikipedia is not before continuing. Also, as others have noted, remove anything that sounds "promotional." davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 00:47, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Nothing. However, if you do nothing, it's going to fail, and for two reasons. First, it's almost completely unsourced. Secondly, it doesn't resemble an encyclopedia article; it's instead like a publicity release. Random quote: Christian’s passion and love for electronic music started when he first listened to Kraftwerk. Growing up in a country [Italy] where everyone only listened to Italian pop music, Christian stayed true to his taste in music. Not just passion, not just love, but passion and love. And if everyone in Italy (tens of millions of them) only listened to Italian pop music, then -- choosing a name at random: Luigi Nono -- is Nono's work "pop music", or is this website merely addressing readers of Italian outside Italy, or what? Therefore: (i) remove all the hyperbole, (ii) back up with reliable, independent sources everything that can be backed up, (iii) remove the rest, (iv) be patient. -- Hoary (talk) 00:45, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Rejected and nominated for Speedy deletion. David notMD (talk) 08:55, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
Semi protected
Please tell me how to edit semi protected pages Eroberar (talk) 06:44, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Hello Eroberar. You have two choices. You can wait until your account is autoconfirmed, or you can file a properly formatted edit request on the article's talk page. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 07:50, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- To edit semiprotected pages you must become autoconfirmed, which means your account is 4 days old and you have made 10 edits. For you, this means doing 4 more edits and waiting 3 days or so (occasionally there is some lag in updating your user rights). Giraffer munch 07:59, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Be aware that semi-protected articles tend to have editors who are avid watchers of every change. As a new editor, you are likely to be reverted for making a change that has already been proposed and rejected in the past. I recommend you first look at the article's Talk pages to see past discussions. David notMD (talk) 08:59, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
Yes, I saw the past discussion in the talk page but I have sources to support what I am claiming Eroberar (talk) 07:52, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
Can barnstars be awarded to IPs?
I know it is meant for editors, but sometimes I see really hardworking IPs who for some reason do not create an account. Are we allowed to give barnstars to IPs? HalfdanRagnarsson (talk) 07:36, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Hello HalfdanRagnarsson. IPs are editors so there is nothing wrong with giving them barnstars. Also, barnstars are entirely unofficial, so you can give one to your puppy or your next door neighbor who has never edited Wikipedia if you want. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 07:41, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- I'll make that two chamomiles and some dog biscuits. Giraffer munch 08:05, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
Artist profile
Hi been trying to create an artist profile for a friend in the industry, am new to wikipedia create page but not new to wikipedia(used resources from here over 10 years ago for my college project). I was able to follow some step and used the visual to create the profile/bio, however, after a while i gotten notifications that is flagging it down, that content are paid. My friend is willing to pay for it, if that is what it entails. would love to know how i can go about this and so he can have his profile of wikipedia like other Nigerian celebrities. Many thanks in anticipation. Smilejorge (talk) 10:07, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Smilejorge Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. First, I will inform you that Wikipedia does not have a single "profile". That is a social media term. Wikipedia has articles. Second, payment to the editor is not required for a Wikipedia article to exist, and if your friend does not pay you, then you don't need to declare as a paid editor, although you would need to declare a conflict of interest. If your friend intends to pay you, then the paid declaration is correct.
- Your draft was deleted as promotional- and I agree that it was. That combined with your use of the term "profile" suggests to me that you have a common misunderstanding as to what Wikipedia is. It is not social media to merely tell about a person. This is an encyclopedia, and as an encyclopedia Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a person, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of (in this case) a notable actress or notable creative professional. Not everyone in a given field merits a Wikipedia article. It depends on the coverage in independent sources completely unaffiliated with the subject. In essence, you need to forget everything you know about this person and only write based on the content of independent sources, and do so without embellishing language(such as "However, her first love was actually singing, which later paved way for her acting career. ") Please read Your First Article for more information. You may find using Articles for Creation helpful if you can do as I have described. 331dot (talk) 10:21, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
Has the 3RR rule been broken here?
Hi there! An editor appears to be targeting some of the articles I've worked on, and I'm trying to get my bearings on what's okay and what is not okay. To start with can you advise me if the 3RR rule has been broken?
On 21 September 2020, between 21:07 and 22:06, one editor made eight reversions to the article on Andrew Hastie (politician), removing about 100,000 bytes of information, which you can see here. At the time I kind of accepted it and started working through the material on the talk page. But I'm starting to realise that, under wiki guidelines, that perhaps I shouldn't have quietly accepted it at all. That the "three-revert rule" means "an editor must not perform more than three reverts, in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material, on a single page within a 24-hour period."
Should I have reported this? Should I now? Should I offer a warning?
I'd appreciate any advice. The Little Platoon (talk) 11:24, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- The Little Platoon, when you make an accusation against another editor, it's polite to notify them. I'll notify Onetwothreeip now. I see the deletions are explained in rather thorough edit summaries, and I'm inclined to agree that they were warranted. In any case, I don't see the 3RR rule as relevant, any more than it would be if they had deleted all the material in one edit rather than eight. What you should do now is discuss the deletions at the article's talk page. Maproom (talk) 11:42, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) No, 8 consecutive edits count as one revert, even if all of them should revert previous edits, per WP:3RR: An edit or a series of consecutive edits that undoes other editors' actions—whether in whole or in part—counts as a revert. In addition, you are misreading the article history slightly: as can be seen here, one editor made a series of edits, not all of them reverts (and in each case explaining their edit) between 21:07 on 21 September and 22:06 on 22 September (UTC). You did the right thing by opening a discussion on the article talk page. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 11:48, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Dispute between editors appears to have spilled over to Tim Smith (Australian politician). Maybe it is something in the water (or beer) of Australia? David notMD (talk) 11:52, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Hey, The Little Platoon, also realize that just because you see the same editor working on two articles you also are interested in doesn't mean they're 'targetting' you or your edits. It's much more likely they just have interests similar to your own. If you can find a way to work with each other, you may have found someone you can collaborate enjoyably with on future work, which can be one of the best parts about editing Wikipedia. —valereee (talk) 12:22, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- @The Little Platoon: you say that you are a lowly staffer receiving a salary in Australian politics. Although I can't tell from those details, I see that you have also said ". If I announced that I was working for a particular person at the top of the page, then people in parliament would work out who I am, and all the anonymity would be undone". It looks as though you may have a choice, forsake anonymity and declare, or stay out of Australian politics. Doug Weller talk 12:50, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- I will express a different opinion. For years, I was a paid consultant to dietary supplement companies while editing Wikipedia articles about dietary supplement ingredients. Since retired. I said as much on my User page, adding that none of my clients ever requested that I edit Wikipedia, nor were any aware that I was doing that. If I was concerned that I might have an unconscious bias rather than a true NPOV on a particular article, I declared as much on the article's Talk page. That said, given that you and other editor(s) are expressing contending opinions on what belongs in Aussie-themed articles, perhaps consider starting discussions on those editor(s) Talk pages before the article itself. David notMD (talk) 15:27, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- The Little Platoon I'd agree with DavidnotMD. As long as you mention on your user page that you've got a potential COI in Aussie politics, and you can draft a list that includes not only your boss but anyone your boss is a big supporter or detractor of. That'll protect your anonymity but reassure the community. —valereee (talk) 18:09, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- My thanks to you @Valereee:@Doug Weller:@David notMD:@Maproom:for your time. I came to see if the 3RR rule had been broken and the consensus is it hasn't. I also note everybody's thoughts on anonymity and disclosure. Roughly, I'm being given the same thoughts that I was given when I outlined my situation on the COI page a couple of months ago: to declare a connection with the subjects (which I do on my talk page and on the talk page of the relevant subject). So, I will continue to do that. I note the suggestion that perhaps I should abandon writing about the topic which I love and enjoy, and I must say that leaves me feeling pretty sad. The Little Platoon (talk) 19:49, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- The Little Platoon, I feel like as long as you declare, you should be able to edit in the areas of your primary interest. You can't change the fact that since you aren't comfortable declaring exactly who you are employed by, other editors may tend to consider you a paid editor at any article. You might consider just not editing boldly except for things no one would ever object to -- unambiguous corrections -- and instead discussing any actual content changes first. That'll go a long way to gaining community trust, even in your situation. —valereee (talk) 10:18, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- My thanks to you @Valereee:@Doug Weller:@David notMD:@Maproom:for your time. I came to see if the 3RR rule had been broken and the consensus is it hasn't. I also note everybody's thoughts on anonymity and disclosure. Roughly, I'm being given the same thoughts that I was given when I outlined my situation on the COI page a couple of months ago: to declare a connection with the subjects (which I do on my talk page and on the talk page of the relevant subject). So, I will continue to do that. I note the suggestion that perhaps I should abandon writing about the topic which I love and enjoy, and I must say that leaves me feeling pretty sad. The Little Platoon (talk) 19:49, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- The Little Platoon I'd agree with DavidnotMD. As long as you mention on your user page that you've got a potential COI in Aussie politics, and you can draft a list that includes not only your boss but anyone your boss is a big supporter or detractor of. That'll protect your anonymity but reassure the community. —valereee (talk) 18:09, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- I will express a different opinion. For years, I was a paid consultant to dietary supplement companies while editing Wikipedia articles about dietary supplement ingredients. Since retired. I said as much on my User page, adding that none of my clients ever requested that I edit Wikipedia, nor were any aware that I was doing that. If I was concerned that I might have an unconscious bias rather than a true NPOV on a particular article, I declared as much on the article's Talk page. That said, given that you and other editor(s) are expressing contending opinions on what belongs in Aussie-themed articles, perhaps consider starting discussions on those editor(s) Talk pages before the article itself. David notMD (talk) 15:27, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- @The Little Platoon: you say that you are a lowly staffer receiving a salary in Australian politics. Although I can't tell from those details, I see that you have also said ". If I announced that I was working for a particular person at the top of the page, then people in parliament would work out who I am, and all the anonymity would be undone". It looks as though you may have a choice, forsake anonymity and declare, or stay out of Australian politics. Doug Weller talk 12:50, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
Suggestion
Hi wikipedians! I have an idea in where there will be a preference where you can see redirects in green. Here is the tip 1,2,3-Benthiadiazole is a red link, nonexistent article. 1,2,3-Benzothiadiazole is a blue link, existing article Benzothiadiazole is disambiguation, some people(including me) see it yellow whereas others see it blue. 1,2,3-Benzthiadiazole is redirect, seen blue but I wish it would be seen green.Acidic Carbon (Corrode) (Organic compounds) 13:19, 4 October 2020 (UTC) Acidic Carbon (Corrode) (Organic compounds) 13:19, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- You can do that, see here: Wikipedia:Visualizing redirects, or as a script: User:BrandonXLF/GreenRedirects. – Thjarkur (talk) 15:30, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
How to reference the same citation without adding it twice to a page?
Hello! Me again, I'm wondering if there's a way for me to add a reference multiple times to an article without creating a duplicate entry in the reference list, as that seems like it would create clutter. Mariaramgon (talk) 13:46, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Mariaramgon, yes, there sure is! Are you using visual editor or source code? —valereee (talk) 13:51, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- valereeeThanks! Just source code, didn't know about visual editor until now :o! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariaramgon (talk • contribs)
- Mariaramgon, That's easy. You just need to name the reference when you use at first place, like <ref name="xyz">reference details</ref>. At the next place, you will need to add <ref name="xyz"/> and this way one citation will be used at two places. Have a look at Yasin Mazhar Siddiqi where I have used a similar citation at seven places. ─ The Aafī (talk) 14:00, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- TheAafi Perfect, that was what I needed. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariaramgon (talk • contribs)
- Good work Mariaramgon but don't forget to sign your comments by adding four tildes ~~~~ at the end of your comment. Also, try indenting your comments. ─ The Aafī (talk) 14:28, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- TheAafi Perfect, that was what I needed. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariaramgon (talk • contribs)
- Mariaramgon, That's easy. You just need to name the reference when you use at first place, like <ref name="xyz">reference details</ref>. At the next place, you will need to add <ref name="xyz"/> and this way one citation will be used at two places. Have a look at Yasin Mazhar Siddiqi where I have used a similar citation at seven places. ─ The Aafī (talk) 14:00, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- valereeeThanks! Just source code, didn't know about visual editor until now :o! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariaramgon (talk • contribs)
sanjeev sharma
i want my contribution towards the society should be recognized and if possible if anyone wants to see my work he can find me in Wikipedia. how to improve my article pls suggest Sanjeevsharma1967 (talk) 14:06, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Until society does recognize your contribution, and writes it up in reliable, independent publications, Wikipedia won't recognize it. Please read WP:V. -- Hoary (talk) 14:14, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Wikipedia frowns on attempts at autobiography but does not forbid. See WP:AUTO. That said, your draft at User:Sanjeevsharma1967/sandbox was Rejected for multiple reasons: you had no evidence that you meet Wikipedia's concept of notability - per Hoary's note that other people have not published stuff about you - you provided no references, no attempt to abide by the format for biographies of living people... David notMD (talk) 15:33, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
Where is the source code for this template? Can it be exported to other non-wmf sites? Starzoner (talk) 14:44, 4 October 2020 (UTC) Starzoner (talk) 14:44, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- At the top of Template:Birth date and age there is a tab labelled "View source". --David Biddulph (talk) 15:01, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- I can't find much. Does that work? Starzoner (talk) 19:31, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, that template works. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:33, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- I can't find much. Does that work? Starzoner (talk) 19:31, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Is there one where the text is consolidated on one page? Not on wikipedia I mean. Starzoner (talk) 20:06, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- The key age calculation is performed by Module:Age. DMacks (talk) 06:53, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Is there one where the text is consolidated on one page? Not on wikipedia I mean. Starzoner (talk) 20:06, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
Starting an article
I want to start a article about a coach of a basketball team, is this allowed?--YBTrece (talk) 15:29, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- YBTrece Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. This coach would need to receive significant coverage in independent reliable sources and be shown to meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable basketball figure. If that's the case, I would suggest that you use Articles for Creation to create and submit a draft. 331dot (talk) 15:36, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- 331dot this is the coach of the Niagara River Lions of the CEBL
- (edit conflict)@YBTrece: in theory yes. Howewer, since you didn't say which basketball coach you want to cover in the new article, I am unable to tell this from a practice site of view. Please be advised that creating a new article is one of the hardest tasks on Wikipedia. If you are sure you want to do this, follow this guide to create it. Victor Schmidt (talk) 15:39, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Victor Schmidt The coach of the Niagara River Lions--YBTrece (talk) 15:41, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- YBTrece Pings do not work unless you sign your posts with ~~~~. So you want to write about yourself; that is strongly discouraged per the autobiography policy. This is because people naturally write favorably about themselves, and also because we are more interested in what others say about you, not what you want to say about yourself. If you meet the definition of a notable basketball figure, someone will eventually take note of your career and choose to write about you. To succeed in writing about yourself, you would need to forget everything you know about yourself and only write based on the content of independent sources. Most people have great difficulty doing that. Even if you succeeded, once the article was created, you could no longer edit it directly and you would be limited to edit requests. You could not lock it to the text you might prefer, or prevent others from editing it. Any information, good or bad, can be in an article about you as long as it appears in an independent reliable source. See WP:PROUD for more information as to why an article is not necessarily desirable. 331dot (talk) 15:43, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- The CEBL is not one of the leagues listed for notability as a basketball figure, meaning that you would need to meet the more general notability guidelines for people. 331dot (talk) 15:45, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Victor Schmidt The coach of the Niagara River Lions--YBTrece (talk) 15:41, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- 331dot no I do not want to write about myself, I am not the coach I am just mentioning who the coach is --YBTrece (talk) 15:47, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, then you can ignore my advice about autobiographies, but the notability advice still applies. 331dot (talk) 15:52, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- 331dot no I do not want to write about myself, I am not the coach I am just mentioning who the coach is --YBTrece (talk) 15:47, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
Inuit culture - wikipedia
My comment is that there is nothing on what the Inuit do for fun or sport or other everyday activity such as washing the blood of their clothing, cleaning the body, swimming - do they swim for fun? Bathroom habits? Games? What other foods do they eat besides fish and animals. I'm talking about the traditional Inuit culture, not the current situation. This is my first foray into Wikipedia, so I hope I am posting this question in the right place! Thank you.Info43hog (talk) 16:27, 4 October 2020 (UTC) Info43hog (talk) 16:27, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Info43hog Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources state. If information is missing from an article, it means that either there are no independent reliable sources with that information, or there is but no one has added it yet. You may wish to express your concerns on the relevant article's talk page. 331dot (talk) 16:30, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Did you see the article Inuit culture? David notMD (talk) 21:02, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
How to change the tittle of my page - how to add again new pictures
Hello, being new I must admit that I do not understand if the page in question is online or under verification.
This is a work I did on the page: "User:Gigiman80/sandbox" in EN edition.
Here is the link in question (if you have access to this page): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gigiman80/sandbox
On Wikimedia Common, it is : EugeneZelenko who refused the files in question. Via my request, I would like among other things:
1. Modify the name of this page that I made because his name that I wanted to put was Jonathan Kubben and not: "User: Gigiman80 / sandbox" 2. Prove and re-add the photos on Wimedia Common which were refused because I hold the rights by various contracts made with the authors in question.
Could you help me please ? Do you advise me to start this work over again? Gigiman80 (talk) 16:30, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Gigiman80:, sandboxe is an userspace area where an editor starts an article that they would later on move to the mainspace. In the sandbox area, they can improve their start-up article. I've fixed few things there but I see this isn't yet ready for mainspace, or simply to get the "Jonathan Kubben" title. You need to improve it with reliable, independent and third party sources having significant coverage about the subject. Once you are done with this, you can either submit it via AfC to get it reviewed from experienced users. You may create it directly then in the mainspace but that's something I would not advise you as of now. Thank you! ─ The Aafī (talk) 16:56, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- And are you uploading images which do not have any copyright issues? ─ The Aafī (talk) 16:59, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- The Images were deleted after c:Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Gigiman80. Gigiman80, we need permissions for ALL of them via OTRS. As for the article title, we can change that once its ready for inclusion in the main encyclopedia. Please be aware that you shouldnt be having any external links in article body and, since you write about a living person, inline citations are absolutely required. Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:06, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- And are you uploading images which do not have any copyright issues? ─ The Aafī (talk) 16:59, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
Citation guidelines.
How do I create citations using footnotes with the visual editor? Captpricee (talk) 17:47, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Captpricee, if I'm understanding you correctly, you place your cursor in the article text (just after the assertion or sentence you want to support), go up to the edit bar and click on "cite", select "automatic", and a form opens up that you paste the URL or doi or ISBN into, click insert, and the software does the rest and creates the footnote in the references section. Is that what you were asking? —valereee (talk) 17:56, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- ValereeeThat's helpful, although I understand that. Typically when a citation is made, it is denoted with a number. But I've seen a couple that had letters with them. How are those made?Captpricee (talk) 18:25, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Captpricee, ah! Try WP:FOOTNOTES. FWIW, you can often find what instructions or explanations of you're looking for by putting into the search box WP:whatever. —valereee (talk) 18:37, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
How do I turn on VisualEditor?
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/14/WikiEditor-choosing_the_editor-en.png/220px-WikiEditor-choosing_the_editor-en.png)
So strange. I wanted to edit an error in the entry for "Better Things" (the TV series). I hit Edit, and Wikipedia said "So you want to try the VisualEditor?" and showed me what it was. I love it! Then it said, "Do you want to sign in?" I hadn't realized I wasn't signed in. So I signed in. And now I can't figure out how to turn on VisualEditor. (!?) I've gone to Preferences. I've gone to Beta. I can't find how to turn it on. Please help. Chandlerburr (talk) 20:12, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Hello Chandlerburr. Please go to Wikipedia:Visual Editor, and you will see "Enable Visual Editor" in the the light blue box at the top. If you click that, you will see exactly how your preferences should be configured. You need to uncheck the box "Temporarily disable the visual editor while it is in beta". Please be aware that Visual Editor is not fully functional, and still has some bugs. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 20:30, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Chandlerburr: In addition: on the tool bar, quite some way to the right of the Help and Cite buttons, you'll see a dark, angled pencil icon. (It's further right than shown here) Clicking that allows you to switch between WP:Source Editor and WP:Visual Editor]] and back again at any time. Nick Moyes (talk) 20:45, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
Regarding Article
When My article will be published ? Magicalabhilash (talk) 21:05, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Magicalabhilash Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Your draft is "published" in that it is live to those who know where to look for it, but it is not "published" in that it is not yet formally part of the encyclopedia. To do so, you must submit it for a review; I will shortly add the appropriate information so you can do so- but if you were to submit it now, it would likely be rejected quickly, as you have few independent reliable sources with significant coverage to support its content and show how she meets the special Wikipedia definition of either a notable cricket player. Please read Your First Article for more information. 331dot (talk) 21:10, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- You have not yet submitted your draft for review, but there would be no point in doing so in its current state. First you need to satisfy yourself that the subject is notable by Wikipedia's definition, then if she is you need to add references to published reliable sources, and remove the misplaced external links from the draft text. You will find further advice at Help:Your first article. --David Biddulph (talk) 21:16, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
Help
Please i created a new wiki page it's is in the main space but has a no index tag any help Amah_Chinbudu Lynn (talk) 22:11, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- You moved this from draft to main space, but in my opinion none of the references establish his notability. Most are name-mentions: picked for team, scored hat trick, scored goal. Perhaps someone with knowledge of sports notability can comment. David notMD (talk) 22:36, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Players that have played in the Nigerian Professional Football League are considered notable. However, the name given by the cited sources is Chibundu Amah, so that needs to be fixed and explained. Usedtobecool ☎️ 07:35, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Newly created articles are NOINDEXed until they have either been reviewed through the new pages patrol process or 90 days have expired. Special:NewPagesFeed shows over 6000 pages awaiting review. --David Biddulph (talk) 22:39, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for your response it's awesome, Usedtobecool ☎️ I've verify the name and move it to Chinbudu Amah Note since he's a football player in Nigerian Professional Football League he's considered notable. Could it be indexed now — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lynndonald (talk • contribs) 10:02, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- It will be indexed when it has either been reviewed through the new pages patrol process or 90 days have expired. Special:NewPagesFeed still shows over 6000 pages awaiting review. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:35, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
Question
How do you add citations? Glome premacamposmercedes (talk) 23:32, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse, Glome premacamposmercedes. The Tools menu in you editor contains a 'Cite' button for you to use. See WP:REFBEGIN for detailed guidance. Nick Moyes (talk) 07:36, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Glome premacamposmercedes, please go through WP:REFB, and we'll be happy to answer any questions that may remain. Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️ 07:39, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
Glome premacamposmercedes (talk) 23:01, 5 October 2020 (UTC)Thanks Usedtobecool and Nick Moyes, I’ve worked out citations.Glome premacamposmercedes (talk) 23:01, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
The Ingrid Bergman article
I'm not quite sure if this is the correct place to submit a question of this nature, but I could not think of a better. If there is a court which judges this sort of thing besides the talk pages, please enlighten me.
Anyway! I unfortunately do not have leisure to improve it right now, but I wished to call attention to the fact that the Ingrid Bergman article is unusually terrible. It is indulgently long, wildly ungrammatical, and at times reliant on a single source for not insignificant portions of the article (viz. the Rossellini affair section.) As of this writing the third body paragraph runs like so:
Ingrid was her father's favorite photographic subject. He made her dressed up in his coat, hat and glasses. He dreamed his daughter might become an opera singer. She got her singing lessons when she was about 8 years old. Ingrid did not like it very much. At this time she was getting piano lessons too, where she always played in front of Justus. He sent her to the Palmgrenska Samskolan, the most prestigious girls' school in Stockholm. Ingrid was not really a good student, but her father doted on her so much. One day, Ingrid asked her father for one krona of weekly pocket money. Justus fished out a handful of money from his pocket and gave to Ingrid. 'There, take as much as you want. Here, take it.' Ingrid would say 'no, no, no, that's too much. You musn't do that, you musn't spoil me. I should just have one krona a week.' Justus replied 'Oh, don't be silly, money is just there to be spent. Take it.' Ingrid relented but not before saying, 'Here, look I'll take two krona. Put the rest away.
Most of the article proceeds in this fashion.
If there are any Wikipedians knowledgeable in this subject I should urge them very strongly to refine this article. Lightcaller (talk) 23:34, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- I fully agree with you. I have just written this on the article's talk page; anyone is welcome to comment there: you of course included. Meanwhile, thank you for bringing this up here. -- Hoary (talk) 03:00, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- And thank you for your time and courtesy. Lightcaller (talk) 04:27, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
Road junctions
I have hard doing road junctions. When I do add to road junctions list or add to it, the list messes up and it looks like vandalism. I would some help. Cwater1 (talk) 00:23, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Are you saying that you have trouble with tables? If so, yes, table syntax is complex and mistakes are easy to make. I can't think of any short cut for avoidance of mistakes. Why not write your suggested changes to the content of a table to the talk page of the relevant article? (Specify your sources, of course.) -- Hoary (talk) 03:10, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Cwater1: To avoid that issue, you should always 'Preview' your changes to check things work OK. Better still, it's worth copying the table code to your sandbox and experimenting with edits to it there. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 07:26, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
Glome premacamposmercedes (talk) 23:07, 5 October 2020 (UTC)Don’t worry ([[User::@Cwater1:, Table syntax is tough, but everyone works it out in good time.Glome premacamposmercedes (talk) 23:07, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
“Confetti” (Little Mix album)
Would anyone like to help me create an article for Little Mix’s new album Confetti? There is both an Instagram post and a tweet revealing the album’s release date, that could be used as citations. It would probably be a stub article, since there isn’t a lot of information and the track list hasn’t been revealed yet, but it would be nice to at least get an article going.
- Well, Crazychickennthang, those sound like dubious sources. Why the rush? Little Mix discography says that the album will be out just one month from now. Just wait a month. -- Hoary (talk) 03:15, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Crazychickennthang: Please see WP:CRYSTAL. We don't like to guess at things that haven't happened yet, at least not in any detail, based on pre-release information (even if it's "official"). You can always start working on it in your sandbox so you'll be ready when it is released. Keep in mind that others may be interested in that artist, too, and may also want to create the articles, so you might want to discuss it on the artist's article talk page (Talk:Little Mix). (Please also take note of MOS:CURLY.) —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 23:42, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
I recently found out that there is a draft; someone has already started an article. I’ll probably try and contribute to it somehow. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crazychickennthang (talk • contribs) 02:39, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
number of edits
how many edits do i have to make before i can edit semi-protected articles Daffyabby (talk) 03:14, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Please see Wikipedia:Protection_policy#Semi-protection. -- Hoary (talk) 03:17, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
Semi protected pages
How to be able to edit semi-protected pages? ShreyasBS1501 (talk) 05:52, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- @ShreyasBS1501: two ways:
- make 4 more valuabke contributions elsewhere so you get WP:AUTOCONFIRMED and can edit the page yourself.
- use the edit requests mechanism. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 06:04, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- What does it mean to make a valuable contribution inorder to edit semi-protected pages? ShreyasBS1501 (talk) 06:17, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- How to make a semi protected page fully protected? ShreyasBS1501 (talk) 06:19, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- ShreyasBS1501, Valuable contributions mean that you improve articles on the Wikipedia and not add something that is vandalism. ─ The Aafī (talk) 06:22, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- ShreyasBS1501, you can post requests about pageprotection on this page: WP:RFPP. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:52, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
Copy-and-paste non-English pages problem
Hello Tea House, there's problem of copy-and-paste wikitable content of Oteckovia in Slovak language to the List of Oteckovia episodes with full translation to English, that I failed to do action. Can you copy the Part section of the Slovak language of Oteckovia to the English Wikimedia list article by yourself? The Supermind (talk) 06:51, 5 October 2020 (UTC) The Supermind (talk) 06:51, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
Article declined
Hey,
I have tried to upload information on a Wikipedia page called " Malgre Tout Media". It got declined because of not enough reliable resources but afterwards, I added one more link from 3rd party sources. Now, it still shows as being declined so I'm wondering why it's still not approved. I think that given the amount of content, there is enough reliable sources. But if not, how much more should I add?
Also, I have seen a lot of other Wikipedia pages that have less sources and references but are still published.
Thank you in advance! Adelina Maria Stana (talk) 06:57, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Adelina Maria Stana: Please see WP:OSE. As this is a volunteer project, we can only act on things we know and its entirely possible for articles to go undetected for years. As for Draft:Malgré Tout Media, it looks better but I am still concerned if this was changed sufficiently to meet WP:NCORP. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 07:09, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Adelina Maria Stana: It's not the quantity of the sources that matters, but the quality. The sources you have offered are not independent reliable sources with significant coverage, showing how the magazine meets the Wikipedia definition of notable web content. All articles should summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a subject; please see Your First Article for more information.
- I see that this digital magazine is the only topic you have edited about. If you have some association with it, please review conflict of interest and paid editing for information on formal disclosures you could be required to make.
- Please feel free to point out these other similar articles that could also be problematic, we could use the help. As noted, it is possible to get inappropriate content by us. 331dot (talk) 09:30, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
Add image
How to add image in wikipedia and how to add introductory columns such as name , born, died etc Charanjeetsinghvirk (talk) 09:18, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Charanjeetsinghvirk Regarding images, your account must be four days old and have 10 edits or more to be able to upload images to Wikipedia, though you can upload certain images to Commons; please see WP:UPIMAGE for more information. 331dot (talk) 09:26, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
Curious
I've been wanting to ask this even if it's very simple, but I just wanted to ask it here anyway for those who want to respond and enlighten me. Why are there other pages that are semi-protected? Is it limited to most editors? And how does an article garner a notice "semi-protected"? Much thanks. Bekkadn (talk) 10:27, 5 October 2020 (UTC) Bekkadn (talk) 10:27, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- We're happy to answer simple questions. You'll find an answer at WP:SEMI. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:30, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
Thank you very much! Bekkadn (talk) 03:52, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
BLP notice on wrong page
Hello, Mulayam Singh Yadav died yesterday. I changed that "blp source" template with "more citation needed" template, but still when I go to edit source, I see the BLP notice. How to change this? Is there any template for that? Lightbluerain❄ (Talk | contribs) 10:37, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Lightbluerain. You probably can't and shouldn't change that. It's called an WP:EDITNOTICE and most likely an administrator or someone with the appropriate WP:USERRIGHT will need to remove it. However, you should be aware that WP:BLP sometimes still applies to articles about persons who have recently died (see WP:BDP for more). My guess is that the notice will be eventually removed at some point so I'm not sure you need to worry about it. -- Marchjuly (talk) 10:44, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks. I juat learned that it was not this person who died. I got confused. Thanks anyways. Lightbluerain❄ (Talk | contribs) 10:50, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
Notability of a rejected article vs other existing articles
The article I wrote about Ardmaleish boatbuilding company the last shipyard to the Scottish island of Bute was rejected for ( not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia ) by Salimfadhley who lives in London in England and is of Arab descent, has rejected my article on part of Scottish shipbuilding history I find this very offensive I wish for a ethically Scottish person to review my article some who should under stand the importance of shipbuilding in Scottish history , I was say this again I find this very offensive that my article was rejected for ( not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia ) by some I believe who does not understand Scottish history .
thank you your time.
when there are other article about other shipyards that have not been rejected
here are 25 article on other British shipyards that were not rejected for being ( not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferguson_Marine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotts_Shipbuilding_and_Engineering_Company https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkol_Marine_Engineering https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall,_Russell_%26_Company https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Dunston https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J_W_Miller_%26_Sons https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McTay_Marine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_%26_McKenzie_Shipbuilders https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appledore_Shipbuilders https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ailsa_Shipbuilding_Company https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swan_Hunter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yarrow_Shipbuilders_Limited https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Shipbuilders https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VT_Group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Lithgow https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vickers_Shipbuilding_and_Engineering https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%26P_Group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooke_Marine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cammell_Laird https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clelands_Shipbuilding_Company https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Govan_Shipbuilders https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackwall_Yard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Robb https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith%27s_Dock_Company https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Doxford_%26_Sons Greenock1998 (talk) 11:39, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Hello there, Greenock1998, as you will find here, the fact that other flawed articles exist does not excuse a flawed article being accepted. It is likely that the rejection of the article has nothing to do with the nationality and heritage of the person who rejected it. Additionally, as you may find here, just because someone may be biased doesn't mean that they definitely have a conflict of interests. If you have a problem with the notability of other articles, it may be advisable to bring this up on the talk page of other articles and propose them for deletion on the grounds of lack of notability. Also, your search was solely of British shipyards, ignoring the other shipyards that would indicate a lack of bias in adding articles about shipyards. I hope this explains this properly, but it probably doesn't because I'm bad at this stuff, sorry
- ––– [ Vedvod | My (bad) contributions to this site | Talk ] 12:41, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- "[T]he importance of shipbuilding in Scottish history" is not the issue. The demonstrable significance of the Ardmaleish boatbuilding company is. Demonstrable via the attention paid to it in independent, reliable publications. Your Draft:Ardmaleish boatbuilding company (2) doesn't cite a single book, magazine or newspaper, and Salimfadhley can see this just as clearly as could somebody who's "ethnically Scots". As long as they abide by Wikipedia's policies, a Londoner (or a Mexican) may write about Scotland and a Scots person (or a Finn) may write about London. There's no ethnicity bar in Wikipedia (though white male speakers of English as a first language are overrepresented). -- Hoary (talk) 13:08, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- I am a U.S. citizen who has never been to a shipyard. I would also reject your draft. None of what you provide in support is formated as references, and simple information confirming that ships were built contributes nothing to notability. If there is not published content ABOUT Ardmaleish this will never be article-worthy. David notMD (talk) 14:09, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Greenock1998, I have raised this on your talk page as a matter of importance. I see your post as displaying racism, and wholly inappropriate Fiddle Faddle 22:58, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
Autoconfirmation Querry
Hello, all! Very happy to be part of this wonderful community. My question is about autoconfirmation. Per the guidelines I've read (4 days and 10 edits), I should be autoconfirmed at this stage. Is this something for which I would receive a notification of some sort, or is it more of a quiet change to the account?
Many thanks! Ryanwwiki (talk) 12:02, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Hello Ryanwwiki, you can find your status here: https://xtools.wmflabs.org/ec/en.wikipedia.org/Ryanwwiki. As revealed, you are in fact autoconfirmed. It is indeed a quiet change. I hope you enjoy your time here!
- ––– [ Vedvod | My (bad) contributions to this site | Talk ] 12:41, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
Who people are
Who are you 24.172.172.171 (talk) 13:10, 5 October 2020 (UTC) Sike
- Click on any user name to find out more. -- Hoary (talk) 13:17, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Teahouse is a place where volunteer hosts answer questions about editing Wikipedia. David notMD (talk) 14:10, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
Quoting an author
Hello! Quick question....Is quoting an author or a book allowed? I just wanted to ask. Also, can anyone see my sandbox, like other people, or is it just me who can see it? Thanks so much, DaniHart08 (Talk). 13:27, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- @DaniHart08: it is sometimes OK to insert brief quotations. More info here. Your sandbox is still public, just like last time you asked. --bonadea contributions talk 13:36, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks!
DaniHart08 (Talk). 13:38, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
TNT (disambiguation). My edit, which was not obvious vandalism, was reverted and labeled a minor edit.
Hi wikiepdians! My edit on TNT disambiguation was reverted and labeled minor edit when it was not obvious vandalism. Please take action. (accusing Bkonrad) (Help given by Dave Biddulph) (Please read Help:Minor Edit before answering if unfamiliar). Acidic Carbon (Corrode) (Organic compounds) 13:56, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Acid Of Carbon, Hi welcome to the teahouse! Ask him on his talk page on why he reverted it. It seems like a reasonable revert, not all reverts are because of vandalism. Heart (talk) 14:02, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- @HeartGlow30797: But i think it is wrong to label a non-obvious vandalism revert as minor edit. See User talk:Acid Of Carbon/Archive 1.Acidic Carbon (Corrode) (Organic compounds) 14:06, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Acid Of Carbon: Sorry for reverting your edit, but on the face of it, it looked a lot like vandalism as it introduced multiple errors. There is no option for NOT marking a revert using rollback function as minor. older ≠ wiser 15:39, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) @Acid Of Carbon: You have far, far more important things to worry about than whether another editor should or should not have marked a revert of your rather daft edit to that DAB page as 'minor'. You are about to get blocked unless you respond immediately to serious questions being asked by Maxim on your talk page about your behaviour and your competence here. Go and address those matters first, my friend! (And whilst I'm here, please don't waste time reporting old, single test edits at WP:AIV, as you did here. As someone who believed themselves competent enough to stand at an RfA, you should have known better. Or are you just trolling us?). Nick Moyes (talk) 15:50, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
Writing and table Seperation
I'm currently adding to the Super Mario Bros. 35 article, in the reception heading. There was a table of info already there, but it needed description, which I started doing. Whatever I write, instead of the table staying in the top right, it moves to the bottom of whatever is written. How can I keep the writing where it is but keep the table in the top right where it should be? Le Panini (talk) 14:19, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Le Panini, hello and welcome to Wikipedia! Does the edit I made help? Heart (talk) 14:54, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- HeartGlow30797 Yes, that's exactly the problem. Thank you! Le Panini (talk) 15:20, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Le Panini, for future reference, just move the template to the top of the section! Happy editing! Heart (talk) 15:34, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- HeartGlow30797 Yes, that's exactly the problem. Thank you! Le Panini (talk) 15:20, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
delete account
hello i wonder how i can delete my account Cimz666666 (talk) 14:47, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Cimz666666, hello, we are sad to see you go. You can't really delete your account. See WP:RETIRE for alternate options. Heart (talk) 14:50, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
New Section
How do i add my biography on wikipedia life time? Lolabiaarif (talk) 14:51, 5 October 2020 (UTC) Aarif Shakeel Lolabi
- Lolabiaarif, before starting, make sure it is notable
--Heart (talk) 15:00, 5 October 2020 (UTC)- To be more clear, Wikipedia is not social media. Articles are about people who are notable. Your not-submitted draft does not contain any information that you meet those standards. If you submit it, it will be rejected. I recommend you abandon it. David notMD (talk) 15:14, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- In addition, you have created article-imitating content about yourself on your User page. This is not allowed. Content on a User page is supposed to be about your intentions and activities as a Wikipedia editor. Please delete it before an administrator does. David notMD (talk) 15:17, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- To be more clear, Wikipedia is not social media. Articles are about people who are notable. Your not-submitted draft does not contain any information that you meet those standards. If you submit it, it will be rejected. I recommend you abandon it. David notMD (talk) 15:14, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
hur raderar jag mitt konto how do I delete my account
hur raderar jag mitt konto
how do I delete my accountCimz666666 (talk) 14:53, 5 October 2020 (UTC) Cimz666666 (talk) 14:53, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Cimz666666, I'm sorry was this an accidental repost? Heart (talk) 14:55, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Cimz666666, another option is WP:RTL Heart (talk) 14:56, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- @HeartGlow30797: That is not a helpful answer to give to a user with just one prior edit to their name. You really should have checked first! Whilst WP:REVDEL might be the place to point Cimz666666 if they want any personal information deleted in that edit, the actual answer is that we don't delete accounts. Just stop using it and forget the password. Talk page or userpage blanking is acceptable, though. Nick Moyes (talk) 16:21, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
I need helping hands
I wanna create a company's page here on Wikipedia... Fist the brand I wanna write about is a fast rising brand and has existed before the creation of the brands website (according to my little research) but I will be needing other people to join in the page creation, how do I do that? Also, how do I really create a company page that would be approved cuz I have seen a lot of time for company pages they often use words that looks like promotion, so how do I avoid all those? Because it's coming from a neutral voice...
Lastly how do I get images that are not copyrighted?
That's all for now.... Dremo24 (talk) 14:57, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Dremo24, first, please make sure that your company is notable, and read WP:PCD and WP:COI before starting your article. Second, you must upload an image, see WP:UPI to learn how to do this. Let me know if you have any more questions. Happy editing! Heart (talk) 15:03, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse, Dremo24 (I'm afraid HeartGlow30797 forgot to say that to you!) They also forgot to point you to these Notability Guidelines for Companies which usually require at least three, in-depth and completely independent sources to have written about that company or business before we accept an article about it. So many people waste time trying to promote their favourite business when it stands no chance of getting over that high bar. I hope that helps. You might wish to read this page about creating your first article here. regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 16:04, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
New section
I am teaching a university class and I want my students to build a tutorial on the use of a certain open-source software. Is Wikipedia an appropriate place for this type of knowledge? I look forward to your advice. Regards, Juan Lorenzo Juanlorenzo (talk) 15:10, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Juanlorenzo, yes it is. See this page to be an official educator. Heart (talk) 15:12, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- No, it is not!!! The guidance for education programs helps teachers enroll students in supervised efforts to improve articles. It is not a place to create a tutorial article on how to use a specific software program. There is a possibility that the software program itself may be notable (in the Wikipedia sense of the word) to warrant creation of an article, but that should not contain how-to-use content. David notMD (talk) 15:21, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Just pinging Juanlorenzo to make sure they see this updated advice from David. I'll also just add that Wikipedia is not an appropriate place if you view it as somewhere to put an article about using certain types of open source software. See WP:NOTMANUAL for the rationale. However, Wikipedia might contain articles about certain notable software programmes and, as such, might be a good starting point for anyone wanting to find citations that link to published information about them. But we would neither want to host nor link to student-built tutorials. It sounds like an excellent project - but just not one for this encyclopaedia. Best wishes, Nick Moyes (talk) 16:13, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for the clarification. I have had students build Wiki projects in the past of a more general nature. But I have not had them build tutorials before and so I was in doubt as to we should proceed in this direction. I can see that I must find another avenue to publish the tutorials. Thanks again for your quick advice. Juanlorenzo
Harassment by admin
Just created an account yesterday after several years away from Wikipedia. Wake up this morning to find that an admin has deleted both my user page and a user box that I created for myself. WTF? LarsJohnson93 (talk) 17:06, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- I would hardly call a WP:U1 deletion request harassment, nor any other deletion, but particularly in this case as you requested it. Praxidicae (talk) 17:10, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- LarsJohnson93, hello, Welcome to the Teahouse! According to the deletion log, you requested to delete it. You can always restore your user page at WP:REFUND. Happy editing! Heart (talk) 17:10, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- I didn't request it!!! This is a fraudulent U1. I never requested to have my page deleted! --LarsJohnson93 (talk) 17:12, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- LarsJohnson93, I did not see the request on your contribs page. Do you have a second account, our admins are careful in deletion of pages and all of Wikipedia. Wait for deleting user to respond to your message on their talk page. Heart (talk) 17:19, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- I didn't request it!!! This is a fraudulent U1. I never requested to have my page deleted! --LarsJohnson93 (talk) 17:12, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
This was a User page deletion followed by an indefinite block (see LarsJohnson93 Talk page). It was not a WP:U1 deletion, so not clear why Praxidicae thought so, but issue is moot. David notMD (talk) 18:30, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
How to write about someone with a name change?
Hello, I'm working on a draft article about someone who originally went by one name and now officially goes by a different name (not a stage name, but a legal name change along with a gender change). I am trying to cite an award he won several years ago, but he won the award under the old name. In the prose where I discuss the win, do I need to say something about how he won the award under the name [name 1]? Because clicking to the citation, his current name is of course not listed, so it looks like I'm incorrect. Does that make sense? Is there a standard for how I should go about this? Apathyash (talk) 17:33, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Apathyash:, You can mention two names in the lead section. For example, This (also known as That). I don't think it is a big issue. Have a look at Sayyid Muhammad Abid and Aziz al-Hasan Ghouri. ─ The Aafī (talk) 17:55, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- @TheAafi:, thank you for your response. My concern is that the individual is openly trans and the old name is considered a “dead name”. Members of the trans community often find it very offensive and upsetting to be referred to by the old name. I know this isn’t really a concern for an encyclopedia. So, I am wondering if there is a compromise I can find. For example, could I explain the name discrepancy on the talk page and avoid using it on the main? Apathyash (talk) 19:57, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- On the contrary, Apathyash, I would say it is a concern for Wikipedia. If you haven't done so already, it's worth consulting MOS:GENDERID. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:07, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- @TheAafi: It is certainly a "big issue", and the subject of much discussion here in recent years (which is hopefully distilled coherently at MOS:GENDERID and the other pages to which it links). @Apathyash: You might also see examples at high-profile articles for people with similar backgrounds, like Caitlyn Jenner and others at Category:GA-Class WikiProject LGBT studies - person articles. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 00:12, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- AlanM1, seeing the above explanation, I see this is definitely a big issue. Thanks AlanM1 for pointing out towards it. ─ The Aafī (talk) 04:20, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- @TheAafi:, thank you for your response. My concern is that the individual is openly trans and the old name is considered a “dead name”. Members of the trans community often find it very offensive and upsetting to be referred to by the old name. I know this isn’t really a concern for an encyclopedia. So, I am wondering if there is a compromise I can find. For example, could I explain the name discrepancy on the talk page and avoid using it on the main? Apathyash (talk) 19:57, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
Question on sidebars
I somewhere read in a policy/guideline that usually there is no need to add a sidebar if there is an infobox in an article. I have tried to search a lot but couldn't find that page. Can anyone give me the link? And am I correct in my understanding about sidebars guideline? Thanks. Zayeem (talk) 17:39, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- There's no need to add a sidebar in general, but I don't recall specific advice against having both an infobox and a sidebar. You might be interested in this recent discussion about just dropping sidebars. – Thjarkur (talk) 18:56, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, I have made an !vote there. And I think this is the page I was looking for. --Zayeem (talk) 19:30, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Kmzayeem: It sounds to me like it's just discussing where to put it, not whether to use it at all. They serve totally different purposes, and I don't see a reason (other than a general dislike of them, which some editors have) not to use both if they're applicable. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 01:47, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, I have made an !vote there. And I think this is the page I was looking for. --Zayeem (talk) 19:30, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
Repeating citations?
Hello,
I am a new editor and still learning the ropes with editing and creating new articles. I recently started a new article on the Kim Loo Sisters, a group of Asian American Sisters who performed in vaudeville circuits and Broadway from the 1930s through the 1940s. I am using a book that have compiled interviews from the sisters and am unsure of whether I should write down all details in the parenthetical in-line citations or if I should use "Ibid" for repeating the author name and publication date.
Thank you!
Zmdrecidoro (talk) 19:15, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- You can use tags to give a citation a name, which means you can then use that name inside its tags to link back to the source in question. The only time this has issues is when referring to specifc pages if required. See this section on the relevant page on citing sources. Koncorde (talk) 19:19, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- "Ibid" doesn't fit very well for Wikipedia since the text could be moved around later. If you're using the VisualEditor you can just copy-and-paste a citation to other locations, that will share the same citation and it will only appear as one at the bottom of the article. You can also write your own short footnotes on the form "Leslie (2020), p. 23–29" if you want to point out specific pages, you just go to Cite > Manual > Basic form to write it in. – Thjarkur (talk) 19:34, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
Fantastic, thank you so much for clarifying that! Zmdrecidoro (talk) 19:39, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Zmdrecidoro: Just to add: to reuse a reference, you give the reference a name, then on subsequent uses you 'call it up' by that name, without having to re-enter all the details again. See WP:REFNAME for a full explanation. You can then use the
{{rp}}
template to add specific page numbers immediately afterwards, like this: - Hope you find this helpful, Nick Moyes (talk) 19:46, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
References
- ^ a b Willmot, A.; Moyes, N. (2015). The Flora of Derbyshire. Pisces Publications. ISBN 978-1-874357-65-0.
Young Spit
can you help publish this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Young_Spit Era257Iwacu (talk) 00:23, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- Era257Iwacu, hi and welcome to the Teahouse! Submit the draft to WP:AfC. Heart (talk) 00:27, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- First, your draft has not been submitted to Articles for creation (as Heart noted, WP:AfC). Second, if submitted, very likely it will be Declined, if not outright Rejected and Speedy Deleted. None of the refs are about Young Spit. Instead, all they do is confirm that he has released songs. The draft uses promotional language. See Wikipedia:Notability (music) for criteria for articles. Third, given that your User name is a composite of two of YS's songs, I am guessing you are either him or connected to him, so WP:COI and/or WP:PAID might apply, ditto WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY. Last, User names cannot be names of companies, so you are likely to be blocked from any more editing unless you do a name change. David notMD (talk) 00:43, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
Reliable sources
I want to know what is reliable sources from where we can add reliable sources if two reliable sources of different types or meaning which one is accepted Adsmohali (talk) 01:00, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- Adsmohali, Have you looked at WP:RS? ─ The Aafī (talk) 06:57, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
the correct way to Contact wikipedia administrator
How i can contact wikipedia administrator for improvement of articles. Adsmohali (talk) 01:02, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- You don't need to bother administrators if your goal is to improve articles. Almost all article have a "talk" page which is where you can talk about ways to improve that article. People have their favorite articles on "watch lists" so they will notice when you put a note on an article's "talk" page. Administrators deal with boring tasks such as keeping internet trolls at bay, deleting pages which don't belong, and enforcing rules when necessary. The rest of us - and administrators too if they have time - get to do the fun work of improving articles. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 01:07, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
What do I need to do?
Hi, I am Peter Schaeffer (Redacted) and would like to edit a Wikipedia article. However, it appears that the article is protected. What do I need to do to edit the article? Thank you Peter Schaeffer Pschaeffer (talk) 04:08, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- Whatever article it is, it will have an associated "Talk" page. Please say there what should be changed (and how), added, or removed. Please specify a reliable, independent, published reference for this if appropriate. -- Hoary (talk) 05:03, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- Appears you have properly raised the issue at the Talk page of 2012 Benghazi attack after having your edits to the article reverted. Continue there until you and other editors reach a consensus. David notMD (talk) 16:03, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
How to use a CC-BY-SA license .
I recently add some of the contents User:Shahoodu/sandbox to Kerala Blasters FC article. Shahoodu gave may permission to use in that article. But how can I use the CC-BY-SA license to the article WhiteFalcon1 (talk) 07:11, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- Hello WhiteFalcon1. Any text added recently to Wikipedia is freely licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0. You can copy that to another place on the encyclopedia, as long as you attribute the source. The easiest way is to say "copied from (specific page)" in your edit summary. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 07:28, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
@User:Cullen328 Thanks for your reply. But i didn't mentioned it in my edit summary.And this {{CWW|User:Shahoodu/sandbox}}
template was added in the Kerala Blasters FC article. So what should I do next ?? WhiteFalcon1 (talk) 08:11, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- Have added an edit summary for attribution (WP:RIA). – Thjarkur (talk) 09:29, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thjarkur Thanks for you help.WhiteFalcon1 (talk) 09:30, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
Political
Political manipulation on Wikipedia regarding acts of self-immolation in Poland after 2010
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[1] Wikipedia article: "Siwiec's death foreshadowed the much better known self-immolation of Jan Palach in Prague four months later. Siwiec was the first person from Central and Eastern Europe to self-immolate in protest of the invasion,[1][2] and one of three in Polish history (the other being Walenty Badylak and Piotr Szczęsny)." There is no link to the article on Walenty Badylak, which favors the reader to click through to Piotr Szczęsny. And it misses out the self-immolation of Andrzej Zydek on 23 September 2011, in protest against the government of Donald Tusk. And the self-immolation of Andrzej Filipiak on 12 June 2013, in protest against the government of Donald Tusk and high unemployment. Again, in front of Prime Minister Donald Tusk's office. Both of these acts of self-immolation were covered very superficially by the Polish media, which at that time was even more in favor of the party of Donald Tusk than it is now. Namely: all three major TV channels were in the hands of strong Tusk supporters, as were all the major daily newspapers and most weekly magazines. Andrzej Zydek, who unlike Piotr Szczęsny, was not being treated for mental illness, set fire to himself in front of Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk's office in 2011 as a protest against corruption in the tax offices and the judiciary. It turned out later that Andrzej Zydek's allegations were correct, allegations for which he lost his job as a tax officer. In fact, matters were far worse than Andrzej Zydek believed: In addition to the VAT gap ballooning from 8 to eventually 30%, Donald Tusk was accused by independent public prosecutors of okaying the illegal importation into Poland of $25 billion worth of tariff-free oil by the Russian mafia, openly in road tankers. And there was a property scam in Warsaw directly linked to Tusk's party and crooked judges worth $1 billion. Andrzej Zydek survived, as Tusk's bodyguards extinguished the flames in time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piotr_Szcz%C4%99sny I looked up self-immolation protests in Poland and found a disturbing inaccuracy in this article, which cannot be corrected. "Following Szczęsny’s death, the government media declared him mentally unstable." It then links to an article laden with propaganda. The related quote from the linked article in the Chicago Tribune is: "Following Szczesny’s death, the government-controlled media declared him mentally unstable but struggled to find evidence of a disease that could have urged him to take his life. Yet the disease that ravaged Szczesny is very much on the outside of his body." The government does not control the media in Poland. At that time (and at present) the vast majority of the media is bitterly opposed to the government. The author of the article Monika Nalepa would surely know this, as she worked for the part of the media most bitterly opposed to the government! I suggest this sentence and link be removed. Moreover, it doesn't fit in with what appears two sentences later in the Wiki article: "He was not involved in any political action of the Polish opposition and had suffered from depression for the last eight years of his life." References |
Warsaw Bruvver (talk) 09:42, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- Warsaw Bruvver Concerns regarding article content should be raised on the talk pages of the articles involved. 331dot (talk) 09:46, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
Speedy deletion notification
I received a notification (or alert) that one of my articles has been tagged for speedy deletion. The instruction leads me to find a button called "Contest this speedy deletion" in the tag which I cannot find. No clickable buttons with this content, can I get some help please? Freshclover (talk) 09:46, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- Freshclover Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. It appears that someone else removed the speedy deletion notice from the article; you no longer need to contest it. If the article has a red speedy deletion notice at the top, the Contest button will be within it, or you may also just post on the article talk page. 331dot (talk) 09:52, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Freshclover: The only such message I see in your talk page history is Special:Diff/785890789, from over three years ago (see the timestamp at the end), which was dealt with long ago. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 11:48, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_Scotia_Power which was updated on 11 July 2020, you folks omitted the Stora =Port Hawkesbury Paper biomass generating plant??? -great resource -thank and take care. Music cb (talk) 11:56, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- Music cb There is no "you folks", just volunteer editors. You, as an editor, can add that facility if you add a reference at the same time. David notMD (talk) 12:34, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
How do I create second article?
Hi, I wish to create another article, but I am not sure if I use the sandbox it won't delete the previous page created by me. Kindly suggest.Thanks 51moont (talk) 14:26, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
@51moont:Hello! You can always create another article without deleting what's in your sandbox. Type in WP:FIRST in the search bar, and an article will explain how to do it all. Le Panini (talk) 14:48, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
Also, for reference, click on your username (which is currently red) and it will allow you to create a user page, for a bio and a personal talk page.
When I Start Edited. Leonardox2020 (talk) 14:56, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- If you go to https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:51moont/sandbox&redirect=no you can blank the page, or edit it to replace with new content. David Biddulph (talk) 15:59, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
How can I create a page for a business that is linked to other Wikipedia articles?
Plytixcommunication (talk) 15:20, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
Problems with a table
Still editing Super Mario Bros. 35. Got a lot of progress, but ran into another problem.
There is a table which shows news sources and their reviews, and I'm trying to add one from imore. It looks like this:
|imore = 2.5/5[1]
It's messed up right now, but if you click edit you can see the coding.
When I preview the article, it shows the old table, and my new source isn't in there. Am I adding the new piece in improperly? Sorry if I worded this question weird. Le Panini (talk) 15:22, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
References
- ^ Cuevas, Zachary (2020-10-04). "Super Mario Bros. 35 review: A unique but lackluster multiplayer experiment". imore.
- I tried a whole bunch of tweaks and the imore rating and ref always shows up in edit mode, but invisible in the article. My only guess is that there is a program that turns MC, JVX, Nlife and SN in edit mode into the names of the rating systems in the table, but imore is not in the program. David notMD (talk) 15:47, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- Indeed. "imore" is not a supported parameter. See Module:Video game reviews/data. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:53, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- Oh, it's up to parameters? That's why. Okay, thank you. Le Panini (talk) 15:56, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- Indeed. "imore" is not a supported parameter. See Module:Video game reviews/data. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:53, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
My draft article published elsewhere...
I created a new article and published it. It exists as a draft waiting for review: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:David_Dobie.
A few days ago I was rather surprised that I found my article on another Wiki: https://wikitia.com/wiki/David_Dobie, even though it has not been reviewed, and not as a draft.
What is the purpose of this "wikitia"? What is the sense of copying draft pages and publishing them elsewhere? Bojustme (talk) 16:11, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Bojustme: once something is submitted on Wikipedia, the licensing allows other sites to cut and paste but they are supposed to provide attribution. Not all do. Wikipedia has no control over reuse. Indeed there are many articles that are submitted and rejected that show up on other mirror sites. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 16:27, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- Wikitia is a separate website, not connected with Wikipedia. To learn about it, try reading https://wikitia.com/wiki/Wikitia:About . Their page does give attribution saying where they had copied it from, so they are complying with the licence under which you released your contribution to Wikipedia. David Biddulph (talk) 16:25, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- Interestingly, Wikitia have added a {{Infobox person}} to your article. You could copy that back into your draft, which would be an improvement and make it more likely to be accepted. For what it's worth, I'd be happy to accept the draft for Wikipedia but I'm not confident to do that, owing to my relative inexperience of these things. Michael D. Turnbull (talk) 16:44, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
How do I properly cite a website so that my article gets approved?
My article has been rejected because I did not cite correctly. Could you please help me cite the following website so that it gets approved by Wikipedia? Here is the website:Jjevtic123 (talk) 16:12, 6 October 2020 (UTC) https://www.andoverprop.com/ Jjevtic123 (talk) 16:12, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse! The problem with your article is not technicalities of creating citations but because it does not use reliable sources. A company website is not a good source for an article on that company. Wikipedia wants third-party sources who have discussed the company extensively to show that it is notable. See WP:COMPANY. Michael D. Turnbull (talk) 16:18, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- Courtesy link. Draft:Andover Properties LLC. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 16:24, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- I declined the draft some 12 days ago for not having any reliable sources and today Theroadislong left a beautiful AfC comment there.
this is just blatant advertising
. Jjevtic123, you need to have a look at WP:42 at least. ─ The Aafī (talk) 16:52, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- I declined the draft some 12 days ago for not having any reliable sources and today Theroadislong left a beautiful AfC comment there.
2601:442:4680:5220:A896:A729:C1F1:D08E (talk) 16:52, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
hello
hi 2601:442:4680:5220:A896:A729:C1F1:D08E (talk) 16:53, 6 October 2020 (UTC)