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Hi! You might find these handy:

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A cup of coffee for you!

What a pleasant surprise to see on my watchlist. signed, Rosguill talk 15:12, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Rosguill - Didn't want to respond to anyone until I made up my mind if I was going to come back. Appreciate your thoughts.Onel5969 TT me 15:19, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Trowbridge Castle

Thank you for your work in new page patrolling and protecting Wikipedia against copyright violations. On investigation, I found that the text you removed from the article Trowbridge Castle was not a copyvio, but was moved (without attribution or suitable edit summary) from the article Trowbridge. In this instance, the outside source had copied Wikipedia. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:24, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

All smiles

I am so glad to see your name on my watchlist again O. Be it full or part time - or even a rare occasion the 'pedia is always better off when you are editing. Best regards and have a nice week. MarnetteD|Talk 22:31, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What MarnetteD said! Welcome back. Even if it's Welcome back-ish. JSFarman (talk) 03:23, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
+1 Happy to see you around, Onel5969. – bradv🍁 15:12, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Learning you were back brought a smile to my face. With whatever you decide to do, we're a better off place when you're around than when you're not. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:12, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you MarnetteD, Bradv, and Barkeep49 - Didn't want to respond to anyone until I made up my mind if I was going to come back. Appreciate your thoughts.Onel5969 TT me 15:20, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Shaikh Siddiqui

If you don't have any Idea about something.. then you are changing that.. Rizvistudent1 (talk) 08:57, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"TLC Travel" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect TLC Travel. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 August 18#TLC Travel until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. YTRK (talk) 14:06, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Templates

Are you trying to be funny? Please (1) read the essay WP:DTTR and try to understand why it's inappropriate to twice "Welcome to Wikipedia" an editor who's been here more than 12 years, (2) try checking the article history before templating the admin who merely refunded a deleted article, (3) realise that you're responsible for the edits you make, including those made via the "Page Curation tool".

If the tool isn't doing the job you need, then don't use it. --RexxS (talk) 17:28, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

RexxS, in Onel's defense, the page was inexplicably restored without its history, so it shows you as the author. The tool appears to be working correctly. – bradv🍁 18:06, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Bradv: I know it shows me as the first editor. That's pretty normal for a deleted article restored directly into draft space. The problem is not that it identified me as the author, it's that it assumes that any author of an article needs to be welcomed to Wikipedia, and that they need have the AfD process explained to them, and that they need to be reminded to sign their posts. I find that templating experienced editors makes the templater look ridiculous. Perhaps they should be reminded to preview their additions to other users' talk pages. And if you're no going to tell me that the tool doesn't allow that, then I'm going to emphatically tell you that it isn't working correctly. --RexxS (talk) 18:17, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
RexxS, yeah there's unfortunately no way around it using the Page Curation tool, unless you count rushing to the editor's page and removing the template as a way around it. We've been recommending that editors use WP:TWINKLE instead for everything except marking the page as reviewed. signed, Rosguill talk 18:49, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi RexxS, first, it's usually polite to provide a link to what you are referring to. Second, the NPP curation tool does not give one the option of not sending the template to the editor who is identified as the article's creator. This is different from the Twinkle tool, which does give one that option. You are correct, templating veteran editors with a "Welcome" is ridiculous, and you have my apologies for that. Since you've brought it to my attention, in the future, if I am reviewing an article at NPP, and I choose to CSD, Prod, or AfD it, I'll switch to the Twinkle tool so I can avoid that issue in the future. Thank you for your civility. And thanks for your input, Bradv.Onel5969 TT me 18:58, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
And thanks for your comment, Rosguill, as you know, I've been off the NPP page for quite some time and was unaware of that. Onel5969 TT me 18:58, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Onel5969: You hadn't guessed that I was talking about the two templates you dumped onto my talk page? Well, not linking to my own talk page must be almost as impolite as your patronising templates. I don't give a flying dingo's kidneys how badly designed the tool is. When you use it, you take responsibility for the edits made. I'm sick to the eye teeth of editors racking up huge numbers of semi-automated edits that have poor results, and then blaming the automated tools, instead of accepting the blame themselves. --RexxS (talk) 20:12, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
RexxS, since I didn't know that the templates had been put on your page, no, I had no clue as to what you were talking about. I was unaware of the issue, but when I understood what you were talking about, I explained what happened, apologized for the inconvenience, and offered to use the alternative method (which I had not known about prior to this). But am so glad you so graciously accepted my apology. Your civility is outstanding. Onel5969 TT me 23:51, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
No, it's my fault. I am normally assiduous about providing links, but I'd forgotten that if you're using an automated tool, you often only know that it's going to notify the "article creator", and of course it wouldn't be at all obvious to you that the templates ended up on my page. It's you who were gracious, so please accept my sincere apology for my thoughtlessness. At least you've had a useful tip about using Twinkle from Rosguill. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 00:49, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
RexxS - No worries, thank you for that. It is greatly appreciated. Onel5969 TT me 03:07, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
RexxS, I would dispute your assertion that it's normal to restore an article without its history. That contravenes WP:CWW. – bradv🍁 18:59, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Bradv: Try refunding directly into Draft: space and see how it goes. Perhaps I should delete the present article as a copyvio? --RexxS (talk) 20:12, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
RexxS, what's wrong with restoring it in place and then moving it to draft so the history is preserved? That's how everyone else does it, as that is what is required by our copyright attribution policy. At any rate, I've restored the history of that draft, although I can't find the specific version you restored in the history. Where did it come from? – bradv🍁 20:20, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Bradv: As it needed considerable more work to be viable, I thought it best to avoid putting it into mainspace even for a short time, so I restored it directly into Draft. I'll make sure that I restore to mainspace in future to avoid what went wrong this time. Thanks for restoring the rest of the edit history, but I think we're still missing some revisions between 2016 and 2020.
Okay, found it. I remember now I became involved because .karellian-24 asked RHaworth to refund Raul Catinas which RHaworth had deleted – see User talk:RHaworth #Raul Catinas – and I've been trying to help mop up those sort of requests as he's not editing much nowadays. There are two different articles with and without diacritics. --RexxS (talk) 20:39, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
RexxS, okay, all fixed up. I deleted Raul Cătinaș, and then restored just the versions going back to the version you copy-and-pasted. Then I restored Raul Catinas and merged its entire history into Raul Cătinaș. Now the history is accurate, and attribution is preserved. Thank you! P.S. If there are other articles that you have refunded like this they should get the same treatment. – bradv🍁 20:49, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Bradv: Excellent work – thank you! We even have a redirect now from Raul Catinas (useful if the article survives AfD). I've just checked my 'articles created' since April 2019 and there are no other refunds credited to me as author. --RexxS (talk) 21:04, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Onel

I expect some kindness from you if you are willing to offer it. Because:

The page was refunded by an administrator because this kickboxer is considered notable. He is a 2-time K-1 WGP Final 16 finalist. Please SEE THIS, Cătinaș was the only fighter on the card without a Wikipedia page until creation. He has also fought at the K-1 World Grand Prix 2012 in Tokyo Final 16. K-1 was an organisation that reunited the best heavyweights in the world. We had no rankings, but we can assume he could have been around the 10th rank so it should pass the rule "been ranked in the world top 10 by an independent publication". Liverkick ceased to exist, and Combat Press (Kickboxing) was created only some years ago. Kickboxing is covered less by media than is the UFC in the USA. I suggest some wisdom and indulgence, please. Thom Harinck, longest coach in the world and one of the best in the history of the sport, names him the "White Tyson" and "perhaps the hardest white hitter in heavyweight history". So being not just fighting in 2 K-1 finals, but also being considered an incredibly heavy hitter by Harinck could be notable.


I really appreciate if you can remove the nomination. Thx!--.karellian-24 (talk) 18:30, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. That's not why it was refunded. The note from the admin was that it was refunded "of deleted article into draft space - this MUST be worked upon to substantially improve it or it will be deleted again." While it has been changed, nothing about it has improved his notability since the last AfD discussion. Onel5969 TT me 17:48, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It was wrongly deleted. He is a 2-time K-1 WGP Final 16 finalist. Please SEE THIS, Cătinaș was the only fighter on the card without a Wikipedia page until creation. He has also fought at the K-1 World Grand Prix 2012 in Tokyo Final 16. K-1 was an organisation that reunited the best heavyweights in the world. We had no rankings, but we can assume he could have been around the 10th rank so it should pass the rule "been ranked in the world top 10 by an independent publication". Liverkick ceased to exist, and Combat Press (Kickboxing) was created only some years ago. Kickboxing is covered less by media than is the UFC in the USA. I suggest some wisdom and indulgence, please. Thom Harinck, longest coach in the world and one of the best in the history of the sport, names him the "White Tyson" and "perhaps the hardest white hitter in heavyweight history". So being not just fighting in 2 K-1 finals, but also being considered an incredibly heavy hitter by Harinck could be notable. I really appreciate if you can remove the nomination. Thx!--.karellian-24 (talk) 18:56, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It was not wrongly deleted. It was deleted as the result of an AfD discussion. Onel5969 TT me 18:59, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

i would appreciated if you would please stop making reverts on PeteStrumentals 3. The album is not until next week. thank you Ceedub88 18:14, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings

The revert on Short Films by Louis C.K. is unwarranted and disgusting vandalism, please stop!! Or I will report you!! IT HAS ENOUGH CREDIBILITY TO EXIST AND HAS ENOUGH SOURCES!! Thank you!!

Aonami Line

Hi,

Wanted to discuss the redirects of the Aonami Line stations. From my understanding & research (WP:RAILOUTCOMES, WP:STATION), heavy rail stations are generally considered notable, especially when the stations are in major metropolises, have large, multiple floor station buildings and serve thousands of people a day. We have tens of thousands of articles of less notable stations and we keep them. It's only generally stations that were/are just a sign on a post that get deleted/merged. If you have anything that disagrees with this, let me know. Jumpytoo Talk 04:20, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Don't disagree with anything you say above, but WP:RAILOUTCOMES and WP:STATION do not relieve the necessity of showing WP:GNG, they simply assume they are notable. Articles which may be notable, but do not show notability, should be redirected.Onel5969 TT me 14:31, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) @Jumpytoo: More importantly, "articles should be based on reliable, published secondary sources and, to a lesser extent, on tertiary sources and primary sources. Secondary or tertiary sources are needed to establish the topic's notability and to avoid novel interpretations of primary sources" (WP:PSTS). If an article lacks reliable, published secondary sources, not only does it fail GNG, it has insufficient proper sources to write any content from. --RexxS (talk) 15:13, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The general consensus disagrees on that viewpoint though [1] [2]. As long we can establish with sources that the station exists it meets notability guidelines, as we have to consider that these stations likely have Japanese offline or historical sources. The state of these articles could definitely need improvement, but not to the point where we should replace them with redirects. Though, I've updated Arakogawa-kōen Station with an two additional sources from a TV channel website & government statistical website to further establish notability. IF you have objections, either AfD or revert & ping. Thanks. Jumpytoo Talk 20:29, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Deletion discussions are not "general consensus" – see WP:CONLOCAL. The necessity of basing articles on secondary sources is policy, while WP:SNGs are guidelines. WP:RAILOUTCOMES has not been vetted by the community, and WP:STATION is an essay. It is useless establishing that an article passes a SNG if there are no secondary sources to create the article content. --RexxS (talk) 00:12, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Resilient Barnstar
I've been away for a few days, and just realised that you were back. This has made my day - glad to see you around again. Cheers GirthSummit (blether) 15:42, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Girth Summit, didn't want to respond to anyone until I made the firm decision to actually come back.Onel5969 TT me 15:21, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Onel5969, I'm hoping that you've made that decision now? Hope you're well physically after that stuff at the end of last year (and everything else that's happened since then...). Cheers GirthSummit (blether) 15:32, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, Girth Summit - my son and I were having a talk last night, and he brought up Ser Armentio, and how he felt this was a worthwhile project. He talked me into giving it another shot. Onel5969 TT me 00:49, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Review Please

Draft:Human Rights Protection Act Draft:Mahadevar Temple, Nelveli — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prasanth202 (talk • contribs) 16:06, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Restoration of three re-directs

Hello, I'm Blue Riband. I'm assuming you've come out of retirement given your recent activity. I noticed that you restored three re-directs: The Charade (D'Angelo song), Jonathan Galkin, and Heart of a Champion (song). Erprert had initially made them with edit summaries that they "didn't seem notable". However in cases where an article fails WP:GNG should we not nominate it for AfD? A unilateral re-direct effectively "blanks" the page as it hides the text from view to the casual user. You noted in your restoration of the re-directs that unsourced material can be removed anytime. I agree that there is a lot of unsourced stuff on Wikipedia that flies under the radar and languishes for years. This does seem to circumvent the AfD process where deletion decisions made by editorial consensus. Blue Riband► 23:12, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Read my response here. Erpert blah, blah, blah... 23:34, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Blue Riband - AfD is unnecessary in cases like this, for the most part. Removing all content in a problematic article and replacing it with a redirect is common practice. Reverting to a redirect, or simply creating a redirect out of an existing article is not bypassing AfD, it is simply not wasting the time of other editors. The moving to a redirect is not a judgement on notability, merely a judgement on the caliber, quantity, or quality of the citations currently in place in the article. Once uncited material is removed it is encumbent on the editor who wishes to restore it to provide references. In 2 of the 3 articles you mention, there was not a single source, and in the third only a single source to Amazon, hardly a source to go towards notability. Feel free to work on those articles if you feel that they are notable, and you can find sourcing to back that up. Hope this explains things. And by the way... still considering whether or not to come out of retirement, but I have some extra time now and thought I'd put my hand in for a bit.Onel5969 TT me 00:04, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the detailed response as I was wondering if there was a situation of an alternate account on the part of Erpert. (A "retired" editor reverting the same three articles did look a bit suspicious.) As for the re-directs, I agree that none of the three are worth keeping as stand alone articles. I'm just frustrated with the AfD process because an article that (to me) clearly fails GNG will end up being retained by default if there is no clear editorial consensus to delete it. Not that it might have multiple defenders (which sometimes does happen) but there are no comments other than that of the nominating editor. It only takes one editor to write a poorly sourced article but it takes about a dozen editors to get one deleted. Blue Riband► 00:16, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Achara Kirk Deletion

Sir/Madam... You made a claim that she hardly deserves notability.... https://www.instagram.com/acharakirk/ Just check the followers.... You will get your answer for notability Rahrumi (talk) 05:18, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry nope. That does not show notability. Please review WP:GNG to see what denotes notability, and how to show it in an article.Onel5969 TT me 13:01, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

heads up

Heya, looks like Agnes Nandutu was a reverse copyvio. The source of the "copyvio" was published 7/24/2020 but the article hadn't even been edited since June. :) Praxidicae (talk) 13:52, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Praxidicae - missed that. BTW, I used to have a tool to check on the date of a webpage's creation, called Carbon Dating. That site no longer exists. Do you have a link to something similar? Onel5969 TT me 13:54, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Huh, I've never even heard of that. Would have been useful too! I don't know of any tool but the posted date on this site at least was more obvious than others. There is a way I think by looking at source code depending on the site too but it's often unreliable. Praxidicae (talk) 13:56, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The article "The Petersens" moved to draftspace

User:Onel5969, shalom. Thanks for telling me about your decision to move "The Petersens" article to draftspace. For your inforfamtion, prior to its move, the article "The Petersens", judging by the stats, had generated far more views than Allison Krauss's Wikipedia page, as you can see here:

(The number of people viewing the page is shown on the left; dates on the bottom)

People were, definitely, taking an interest in their group, and they see them as being quite talented. I will do my best to find other reliable sources that speak about the group.Davidbena (talk) 15:03, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jonathan Galkin Wiki

This page is valid + accurate. I saw you had edited changed it and had it redirect to Hey Dude. I am actually the subject and would appreciate having my page available. Any way it can be reinstated and the redirect to Hey Dude removed? I am new to Wiki so bear with me. thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Falconcrest72 (talk • contribs) 23:28, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

PROD endorsements

As much as I appreciate the votes of confidence, I wonder if endorsing other reviewers' PROD tags is the best use of our time given the length of the backlog. It's equally easy for an editor to remove a PROD even after endorsement, and time spent reviewing a PRODed article could be spent reviewing an additional article. signed, Rosguill talk 20:49, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Don't disagree Rosguill - and normally I skip over articles which are already marked for deletion, but those two I simply hit, and agreed with your assessment. BTW, in the same batch, I saw one you marked for notabiity, but "reviewed" it anyway. I don't make a practice of it.Onel5969 TT me 20:51, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of Node (singer)

I was informed of the deletion of Node article after I saw the article taken off as a copyright infringement. Didn't have a few hours to help save it. But did it occur to all these colleagues behind this decision (just a handful 2-3 colleagues) that the page that is pointed out https://krposts.com/block/ycqf5J44SWgTvMeO1lQ-2w is the one that copied from the Wikipedia article? I recognize the style of the text and it is my Wikipedia style. The page pinpointed is a message board https://krposts.com/ that is a relatively well known message board on Kurdish subjects and they are notorious for copying Wikipedia articles by "copy and paste"? No poster on that message board would have troubled himself or herself to do the necessary research for all that information. The earliest message in the comments section was just 3 months ago whereas our article has been there for quite a long time. You see, what happened is some poster likes the singer and rapper Node from Denmark of Kurdish origin, so he/she pasted what he/she readily found in Wikipedia being oh so happy Node is mentioned on our project. Now because of that copy paste he/she did out of his/her stupid innocent jubilation of seeing something by his name in Wikipedia, that specific copy paste post was used as proof of copyright infringement and resulted in the demise of the article altogether and speedily at that without giving me the chance to respond. So now with our trigger-happy superficial non-discussion of a few hours ago, Wikipedia loses the biography of a Kurdish Danish singer and rapper. So his/her action of copying our article backfired on him/her and he/she was deprived and the whole Wikipedia readership is deprived of any feedback on Node. I am not writing this to blame anybody. But I am so sad we have come to this level that whenever we see a foreign name, we suddenly are over-concerned. This singer rapper started in 2012 and has had tens of charted hits in Danish Hitlisten chart which you can find here https://danishcharts.dk/showinterpret.asp?interpret=Node from 2016 onwards to these days and Wikipedia readers are now deprived of any information on him based on a message board that copied from us and not the reverse. I am getting really tired of this project's obvious sloppiness time and time again when it comes to lesser known non-English language artists. They are already underrepresented in English Wikipedia and we are making it worse like here. But you know what? Let it stay cancelled. I mean what's that big deal. One artist more or one artist less. There are tens of thousands of artists. It's not the end of the world. werldwayd (talk) 18:43, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Werldwayd Yes, I thought it might be, since I rarely find issues with your articles. However the site in question says it owns the copyright. I have no way of checking for checking if a particular website is a WP:MIRROR of WP. I used to have a tool which helped in establishing which came first, but that tool is now a dead link. I'm pinging Jimfbleak who was the admin who actually deleted the article for their input.Onel5969 TT me 20:15, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The biggest proof ours is the original is that the comments are very recent on the krposts dot com page which means that their page is actually the culprit in taking our material. Message boards just live on copy paste particularly Wikipedia. It's the easiest thing to do, copyright or no copyright. Our page of this artist is some time back although I have no way of knowing it now as it is completely deleted. Thanks for pinging Jimfbleak to take a new look on the circumstances. If the page is reestablished solving this misunderstanding, I could at least add more references and updates on the charting discography of Node and remove copyrighted materials if any. I also don't like arguing too often in discussion pages. It's just not my type. But I appreciate your help. It's just that speedy deletions are so unfair as I can't be on my Wikipedia page all the time and we just get one day at best. I like more the AfD discussions. I know copyrighted materials are candidates for speedy deletion, but it seems I can't beat the system. LOL werldwayd (talk) 21:14, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for ping. Since the copyright status has been challenged, I'll restore for now to allow further discussion, ping GF SD nominator Onel5969 for info. This bio is problematic for other reasons, notably the extent of unreferenced text Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:15, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for both colleagues, Onel5969 for following it up and for Jimfbleak for reinstating the Node singer page for reconsideration. I will work on the page to add more references within the next 2-3 days for sure. werldwayd (talk) 20:52, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Special Barnstar
Welcome back, we've missed you! ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 15:34, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, CAPTAIN MEDUSA - thought I'd give it another go.Onel5969 TT me 00:50, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Watching ...

I have been watching and worrying about you since last Christmas, Bil, but keeping my head down. You are an exceptional man; it is hard to understand how worried you and your family must be; first to donate and then hit the coronavirus pandemic. You don't need me to tell you to take every possible precaution, but I am telling you.
Do not take any risks!
All the best, Gareth.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 16:07, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you old friend. Was thinking of you over this past year as well. Hope you are well, and all is well with you. Onel5969 TT me 00:52, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I am doing fine here with just my 12-year-old Staffordshire Bull Terrier, Chancer for company; we are both enjoying good health and feeling content.
Of course, I'm apprehensive about the months ahead and that includes your forthcoming presidential election.
Cheers! Gareth.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 10:26, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Mesodinium (disambiguation)

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I've seen it all

The toilet is notable; the school isn't. I've officially seen it all. John from Idegon (talk) 20:49, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi John from Idegon - Is that what I left in an edit summary? Wow. What was I thinking? Do you have a link so I can slap myself? Onel5969 TT me 21:37, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
No, you didn't say that, it's just a succinct description of all those schools you nominated a couple days ago. It's accurate and struck me as funny. John from Idegon (talk) 21:45, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
LOL, John from Idegon... I thought perhaps I had meant to write, "The town is notable, but the school is not", and perhaps had gotten distracted by a "Scrubbing Bubbles" commercial. But now that you mention it, they did have quite a bit of detail regarding sanitary stuff, didn't they?Onel5969 TT me 22:51, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect notification

Hi. I wanted to thank you for notifying me of the redirection of Tomomasa Nakagawa article in which I put so much effort. Wikipedia is really AWESOME for people with difficulties trying to contribute. Thank you again for your kindness at notifying me. Thank you for refreshing me what Wikipedia is all about ^_^- Good-bye have a nice day. --CoryGlee (talk) 15:50, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Sivaranjani (2019 film) for deletion

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Incorrect disambiguation?

Hi, I wanted to alert you to the fact that while disambiguating links to The Owl House you incorrectly linked to the museum rather than the TV show on two pages: [1] [2] These have both been fixed now, but hopefully this serves as a reminder to double-check before clicking publish. Thanks. Ionmars10 (talk) 18:35, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ionmars10 - Thanks for catching that.Onel5969 TT me 22:35, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

New content added in Chasten Buttigieg page

Hello Onel5969, I am wondering why you reverted Chasten Buttigieg to a redirect stating "Nothing new in this article since AfD closed as redirect" when new content has, in fact, been added. Chasten Buttigieg just published his first book which has received substantial coverage in a large number of major news organizations, some of which were used as new sources. This coverage has been focused on him and his book, not his husband. In addition, his well known status as an activist has received significant coverage besides just his relation to his husband, much of which has happened after the presidential campaign concluded. Together it is clear that, at the very least, the redirect discussion should be reopened; as authors which significant coverage, which Chasten now is, are considered notable enough to have their own pages. Thanks. WestCD (talk) 22:48, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just because new stuff has been added, does not mean that the underlying rationale of the prior AfD does not still pertain. The only reason his book got noticed was due to who is partner is. If the book is still being written about after a few years, it will be significant, and then he would qualify under WP:NAUTHOR.Onel5969 TT me 23:36, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You have redirected Rudhraksh page

Dear Sir, He has done very significant work with lot of Indian celebrities . My request you to check his work on you tube and he his working since last 7 year and worked with lot of prominent Indian actors . Requesting you to please support him and removal of redirection ..thnx. Kanhiyalalsomnath (talk) 02:57, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, unfortunately, all that is irrelevant. He needs to have at least 2 significant roles, with his last role, that is the only significant role he has had. Therefore, he doesn't pass WP:GNG.Onel5969 TT me 13:08, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A goat for you!

Thank you!

Akiva100 (talk) 06:58, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure what for, but you're welcome.Onel5969 TT me 13:09, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A goat for you!

Behhhst Wishes and thanks!

Akiva100 (talk) 07:01, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Elmidae. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Biological rhythm, and have marked it as unpatrolled. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

(Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

Elmidae (talk · contribs) 20:22, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry - slip of the mouse... --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 20:23, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, happens all the time to me . Thanks for letting me know.Onel5969 TT me 22:15, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

September 2020

Information icon Hello, I'm Me-123567-Me. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Naomi Hunter have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse. There was already a discussion on the talk page you could have joined.Template:Z186 Me-123567-Me (talk) 17:01, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Which is where it was explained to you why they did not meet notability criteria.Onel5969 TT me 17:04, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
This takes the biscuit for most inappropriate use of a template I've seen for, oh at least a few days. GirthSummit (blether) 17:12, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Girth Summit - although sometimes it's an auto template thing which can't be helped.Onel5969 TT me 22:37, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Onel5969, that's generous of you, but the only way this would have been done automatically that I can think of would be to have Twinkle set to warn automatically (that's not the default setting), and to have used the red Rollback Vandalism option - which wouldn't really be any better than applying the template manually in my view. GirthSummit (blether) 05:19, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I know, Girth Summit, especially since this user then went and retaliated by tagging two articles of mine with notability tags. Oh well. Onel5969 TT me 12:12, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Plese help stub

You deleted the page, this is not an insentive to build new content... I need one week to create stub and other week to add and review content... Please unrevert it https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Quadratic_funding&action=history

If you want to work on an article, and take your time doing so, the place to do that is in Draft space. Would you like me to move that stub into draft so you can work on it? Onel5969 TT me 22:36, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Danielewicz

  • Hi. Please do not make any action on redirecting Danielewicz to Danielewicz family as this is not correct. I will report action of moving the art. as it was done without any communication with the author. Please await conclusions. It is not correct to redirect to Danielewicz family as it is missleading. There is no one family with this surname but many. Mind the WP:3RR rules Camdan (talk) 10:31, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
What you are doing is called a WP:CUTPASTE move, which is not allowed on WP. You must request that the title be moved.Onel5969 TT me 12:09, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Im the author of the art. "Danielewicz". Then, it have been redirected to "Danielewicz family" by Staszek without any notice! Im just trying to reverse that action. Do you mean that anyone can redirect this art. without any notice but me, the author of the art. can not do so? This is not first time Staszek change with obsession art. names adding "family". We had long issue on that few years ago and he got no support for this action. Now, he do it again, he never learn. So...I need to take this forward and waste time? Why not revert to what it was from beginning - then write on talk page and then suggest to redirect - and give me also chance to make some objections and why I dont think it is good idea? Regards,Camdan (talk) 14:32, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
First of all, have no idea what you mean when you say, "I'm the author of the art". Do you mean you created the article? If so, then please see WP:OWN. Also, you've now been repeatedly told that what you are attempting to do is called a cut and paste move, which is not allowed on Wikipedia. All of your other arguments are moot. If you disagree with how the article is currently titled, you can request it be moved at Wikipedia:Requested moves.Onel5969 TT me 12:38, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I understand what you mean with cut and past move. Repeatedly means second time, I did not get it first time since i have not been edtiting for long time. Sorry for that. What I ment is that I created the art. and if someone wish to redirect or make significant change, it should be notified - at least on Talk page? Thank You for the link to the move request, its usefull. Regards, Camdan (talk) 16:43, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Camdan - no, notification is required, or even suggested. Folks who want to keep an eye on a particular page, simply put it on their watchlist.Onel5969 TT me 15:08, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I thought that it was recommended by en.wiki to notify when doing bigger changes. Must be wrong then. Many thankls for all your kind help and guidance. Camdan (talk) 09:35, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Whats your opinion on Wanga Kingdom return based on sources that passed WP:GNG

Most of the content cited in the article include the following sources1,2,3, 4, 5, 6 ,7 ,8 9 and 10 that make most of the content which was the article. what's your opinion in recreating the same from publicly available sources that pass WP:GNG such as these above. These sources alone without any reference to copyrighted material pass to make an article to pass WP:N. These are genuine reliably referenced sources all in the public domain and clearly detailed to reliably reference the article. The sources that constitute copyrighted material constitute free license use material that were not properly declared on the article previously. --waweruboyWaweruboy (talk) 13:37, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Waweruboy - without looking too deeply, I think it would pass notability criteria. However, you must refrain from putting copyrighted material onto WP. That will get you blocked from editing.Onel5969 TT me 15:10, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Onel5969thankyou for your input. As per this, the sources of apparent violations including this is public news site by Daily Nation which is freely available for re-use. This one too 1 is a public government website with freely available content to use that is not copyrighted. As per this abeingo website lists its content available for free use, website is about luhya news blog with content freely available for use. Can you help expand this to address this issue. I relied on these freely available material to make edits. --waweruboyWaweruboy (talk) 15:22, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Waweruboy - not sure what you're looking at, but both of those sites clearly have copyright symbols, meaning you can't cut and paste material from there.Onel5969 TT me 15:28, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Onel5969 as per this 1 the violation is wording that is not blatant. Can you help fix when you get a chance --waweruboyWaweruboy (talk) 15:39, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Onel5969 as per this 1 specifically under the section main menu, then web resources, then publications the editor explicitly states Feel free to use our collection of Luhya resources for academic, historical or general interest. We have compiled the bibliography from a number of sources for whom we are indebted. If you do find published information not on our list please tell us so that we may keep our records updated. Sent all communication to the editor@abeingo.org.--waweruboyWaweruboy (talk) 16:09, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That does not abrogate the copyright issue, although I see why it could be confusing.Onel5969 TT me 16:13, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Repetitive reversion.

Please do not revert to a page that is written for Garhwali. By doing so, you are misdirecting readers to an inappropriate page. This page is and will be dedicated to the Bangani dialect. Before reverting again, please be kind enough to share the intention for doing so. Thanks. Binsarhills (talk) 11:27, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Clay Beauford

I have some info on Clay that is totally different in some timelines of his life, He is a distant relative I've been doing genealogical research on. Do have docs to back up what I am presenting. Can we talk? Gene Briddle (our last name was Bridwell but my Great Grand father changed it when he left his family in Schuyler Mo and moved his family to Denver Co around 1908. Created account on Wiki under Vortex24AZ, email is vortex24@aol.com just in case. Thank you Gene Vortex24AZ (talk) 21:56, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Vortex24AZ - I can spare some time to help you out. I've created User:Onel5969/Clay Beauford where you can send me information and references, and I'll see what I can do. Onel5969 TT me 22:08, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deprodding of The Quiet Room (2018 film)

Hey there! I'm leaving this message here to notify you that I have removed the {{proposed deletion/dated}} tag from The Quiet Room (2018 film), which you proposed for deletion. As I explained in an edit summary on the aforementioned article, I would concede that some of the sources present in the article do not qualify as significant coverage, but I nonetheless believe that the references to articles published by Dread Central, Billboard, and Rue Morgue provide sufficient justification that the article meets WP:GNG. If you still think it should be deleted, please do not add {{proposed deletion}} back to the page. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thank you! —Matthew - (talk) 23:52, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. I appreciate your characterization of the article as being well-written. I try to do my best. 🥺

Hi MatthewHoobin - I reviewed a few of your articles the other day. All were well written, and this was the only one I had an issue with I think. I'll leave it in the queue for another reviewer take a look at it. It is borderline, imho, but I don't think it passes gng. Keep up the good work though.Onel5969 TT me 22:35, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Results of the 2004 Indian general election by parliamentary constituency

This Article Want To Show 543 Parlimentary Constituencies Results of the 2004 Indian general election by parliamentary constituency

But This Was Redirected To Show Only State Of Andhra Pradesh Which Contain 42 Constituencies

I Have Tried To Expand But You Reverted It. I Have References For That I Can Complete It In A Week

So Please Allow Me Dev Adhi (talk) 15:26, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Dev Adhi the place to work on articles is in draft space. Would you like me to move the article there for you to work on?Onel5969 TT me 22:36, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I Will Work In Draft Space So Please Move The Article
Done. You can find the draft at Draft:Results of the 2004 Indian general election by parliamentary constituency.Onel5969 TT me 03:37, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Baxter Leach

Hi, you reverted my edit here. Just to be clear, I'm not simply reversing an AfD decision, I'm actively expanding an article and adding sources.Citing (talk) 20:59, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Citing - thanks for your explanation, but you are simply reversing an AfD decision, and simply saying your not does not make it so. I reverted again, and in the edit summary left you a note to go through WP:DRV, which is the appropriate process to attempt to get an article recently deleted through AfD back.Onel5969 TT me 22:38, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I am not "simply saying so", I have added new reliable sources (see: [3] [4] [5] [6]) and content as can be seen from comparing revisions.Citing (talk) 01:36, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That's simply saying so, all those were available during the AfD process. I've pointed you to where you need to address the issue, if you see one.Onel5969 TT me 02:05, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Gonna disagree but okay.Citing (talk) 02:17, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It's not a question of agreeing or disagreeing. It's a question of following the rules. It you feel strongly, take it to DRV.Onel5969 TT me 02:18, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
For the reviewing work. Here! Thanks. Kambai Akau (talk) 20:59, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Kambai Akau.Onel5969 TT me 22:39, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Revert of PMCI page

Eliel Louzoun (talk) 06:59, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I see you reverted the page I wrote for PMCI WG[1]. Can you tell why? This page was prepared by the WG itself to create a framework for all the standards developed by it (NC-SI, MCTP, PLDM, SPDM).

References

  1. ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PMCI&redirect=no
Hi. As I said in the edit summary, there is no indication of notability. See WP:GNG on what denotes notability. Simply because something exists does not make it notable. In addition, Wikipedia is not a place for advertising a product. Onel5969 TT me 12:38, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Eliel Louzoun (talk) 08:29, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Eliellou, this topic really isn't in my lane. You might pose a question on the talk page of the computing project, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Computing. Onel5969 TT me 11:48, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the answer. While I agree there isn't much on PMCI as a group, there is a lot more on the protocols developed by this group (MCTP, NC-SI, PLDM, etc.). The intent of this page was to provide an umbrella for all these protocols and describe how they connect one to the other and create a coherent management system. Is there a way to get a discussion on the notability issue, so that we can reach an agreement?

Review

Please review: Chetan Dudi, Deedwana (Rajasthan Assembly constituency) and R Nait Indian Viki BKN (talk) 08:58, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Indian Viki BKN - there is a huge backlog in the review queue. Reviewers take them as they come along. Please be patient.Onel5969 TT me 12:39, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draftifying

I found myself at User_talk:Maxeto0910 to leave a note about stubs, and for some reason had a look at Draft:G. G. Anderson which you'd draftified as "Undersourced, incubate in draftspace ". It has a couple of substantial magazine articles about him, and there are articles in five other wikipedias such as de.wiki. In fact this English version is better sourced than most. By draftifyiing it you also wasted the work of the editor who created a redirect from his alternative name Gerd Grabowski (and there may be more - according to de.wiki's discography he used several names). In short, I wonder if you were overhasty in draftifying this and would encourage you to reinstate it. PamD 09:45, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi PamD - long time no "speak" . Of those two articles, one is an interview, which is considered a primary source, and therefore doesn't go to notability. The second article consisted of three short paragraphs, so felt it was very poorly sourced. Additionally, very little in the draft was actually supported by either article's content. I felt the article has merit (which would be indicated by its appearance in 5 other Wikis, as well as the content of the two existing sources); it does not meet English Wikipedia's standards either for references showing notability, or references verifying content, or for footnotes; and even though it had a little correction recently, it hadn't truly seen any improvement in over a month. I felt that it was pretty much a poster child for draftification. Perhaps I'm missing something. I know I'm not infallible so feel free to move it back into draftspace, if you feel that is warranted.Onel5969 TT me 12:34, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

CSD a7

Actually, unless something's changed, you can. The only reason to remove the CSD tag is if the article asserts significance, a lower standard than notability --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:38, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Might have been better to let an admin detag. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:40, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Deepfriedokra... just that I've seen that rationale used numerous times to remove CSD tags on articles in AfD.Onel5969 TT me 01:14, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
If there is some question of notability, then there is significance. I've declined such iffy A7's myself, believing the AfD would give a purer result. In this instance, I think not, but would have liked a second admin to decide. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:26, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I understand your point, Deepfriedokra, I'm just saying that I've seen dozens of speedy tags added to articles which were already at AfD, and in every single instance they were removed, due to the fact that they were already at AfD. Neither AfD nor CSD state an opinion on this matter. Although CSD does state, "If an editor other than the creator removes a speedy deletion tag in good faith, it should be taken as a sign that the deletion is not uncontroversial and another deletion process should be used." Since it is already part of another deletion process, one might say this has already occurred. Maybe either CSD or AfD should clearly state what the proper procedure should be in this instance, such as WP:PROD does, "It must never be used simultaneously with a deletion discussion". Onel5969 TT me 01:55, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ezra Bridger

Hello, I see that you have undid my revision on the page Ezra Bridger. Please note that the article was still in the process of completion. It may have not improved in three days, but I was going to write more and establish the notability of the subject. Let me know what you think, and I am willing to talk it out if you want. Thanks, Hey now, you're an editor (talk). 2:40, September 17, 2020 (UTC)

Hi Hey now, you're an editor - The place to work on articles, wherein you are not going to have a basic article in a day or two is in draft space. If you feel you can get an article up to speed in less than a couple of days, an {{underconstruction}} is absolutely appropriate. Would you like me to move it into draftspace for you? Onel5969 TT me 21:15, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Onel5969, thanks for letting me know. And yes, I would like you to move it into draft space for me. Many thanks! Hey now, you're an editor (talk). 23:16, September 17, 2020 (UTC)

Alfonso Sancha

Hi, Onel5969, I really appreciate your contribution and I think that together we can make Wikipedia really collaborative. I've been collaborating for some time on articles about motoring and automotive that I'm interested in and like. In addition to the historical part I think it is important to have the people who are currently outstanding in their work in the automotive industry. I have contributed with two more references to show that he is a remarkable person. Just as in the world of cinema and entertainment most of the members of the sector have an article in Wikipedia, I believe that the automotive industry must also have a place. I have received the notice that gives me the possibility, after improving the article, I can remove the template, but I wanted to communicate all this procedure before doing so; because I think it is necessary to respect the work of all wikipedians. Greetings --Fittipaldi92 (talk) 15:32, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Fittipaldi92, Hi. I'll reply on the talk page of the article.Onel5969 TT me 21:19, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Shibutanis Pages

Good morning,

Please do not revert my edits on the pages for the Shibutanis. The person that created the merge page for the Shibtanis also tried to create a merged page for Meryl Davis and Charlie White that I just reverted this morning after the unnecessary merge came to my attention. These retired ice dance teams are now going on their separate paths, and the figure skating community has been complaining about this merge and how it impacts Google search results for months. Not all page merges are necessary – this is definitely one of them.

Nine dots puzzle

Hello. This was intended as a WP:CONTENTSPLIT from thinking outside the box, as it looked to me like the classic puzzle had a strong, standalone pedigree beyond its connection to the 1970s management jargon. Happy to start a talk page discussion if this is contentious, but be aware that I removed some unnecessary detail from the original article as part of the split, which should be restored. --Lord Belbury (talk) 15:26, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lord Belbury, Hi. I was using the rationale as per WP:SPLIT, in which case there was no need for a separate article. I don't think it's contentious, and another reviewer might see it differently. Onel5969 TT me 17:10, 19 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Bang

Hello Onel,

Bang & Olufsen is an respectable hifi-manufacturer. I had the interest, who is/ was the founder. This article is based on the one of Danish wikipedia. You may be right, more references are worthwhile, but please see the Danish original. I visited a wp-meeting (in Germany) and it is quite usual translate articles. This was much work, you may imagine. I think the Danish books named in the Danish original will not help the English readers; of course it is or possible to add them.

And there are many articles in wp that need references, but they are not removed to draft room. From my point of view the removal to draft is too hard. The putting of the citation box is much more useful. So please undo the removal.

Last but not least I'm no employee of Bang and Olufsen, and hifi is not my business, a hobby. (It is strongly discouraged to write about yourself or your own business ... does not apply)

Kind regards, --Wikisympathisant (talk) 16:33, 19 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikisympathisant, I agree, the article is about someone who does meet notability requirements, but that's why I put it into draft, so that it could be worked on. Sources do not have to be in English, so by all means add them, and then we can move it back into the mainspace. Onel5969 TT me 16:38, 19 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, thanks for your fast answer :-).
@Onel5969:Sorry, the information is in the article, please see chapter literature. I guess, bibliography would be a better word, wouldn't it? KR, --Wikisympathisant (talk) 16:50, 19 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Wikisympathisant, The title of the section is really a matter of choice... but I'll move it back to the mainspace, although it really could do with more and better references. Onel5969 TT me 16:54, 19 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Wikisympathisant, The title of the section is really a matter of choice... but I'll move it back to the mainspace, although it really could do with more and better references. Onel5969 TT me 16:54, 19 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Onel5969 Thank you again for your fast reaction. I'm unfortunately not a native English speaker, the wording should be common and/ or handy. Please feel free to amend if necessary. More references are everytime welcome. KR, --Wikisympathisant (talk) 17:16, 19 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Wikisympathisant, well thanks for your contribution. I've rarely done translating into other wikis... I think only about 10 or so articles, and almost always at the request of someone from that other wiki, who then "held my hand" through the translation process. Keep up the good work. Onel5969 TT me 17:20, 19 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Steve Fox

You reverted my edits without explaining the reasons. I added notability to Steve Fox. The reason given for first redirect was not having a reference other then gaming sites. I added references to the page. But, you reverted my edits. --Rocky Two Belts (talk) 19 September 2020 (UTC)

I was pretty clear, there is no real world notability, meaning all the refs are in-universe.Onel5969 TT me 17:07, 19 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Steve Fox is main character of Tekken series. Pages of side characters like Christie Monteiro and Craig Marduk are pretty much like this page. These pages exist on this merit, why? --Rocky Two Belts (talk) 19 September 2020 (UTC)

Rocky Two Belts, there's a lot of crap on WP. That's an WP:OSE argument. Onel5969 TT me 17:18, 19 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks man, that's really helpful. By the way, if you bother to checkout that there was a real world reference about the actor who played the character of Steve Fox in the live adaptation of the video game. --Rocky Two Belts (talk) 19 September 2020 (UTC)

Bubsy: Paws on Fire!

I noticed someone tried to make the page for Bubsy: Paws on Fire!. The user even included some sources. However, you changed it back to a redirect. How much more is needed to make it an article? 172.250.44.165 (talk) 20:46, 19 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deprod of Hannes F. Wagner

I have removed the {{proposed deletion/dated}} tag from Hannes F. Wagner, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think this article should be deleted, please do not add {{proposed deletion}} back to the page. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks!

Looks like Twinkle did its occasional annoying thing and didn't create Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hannes F. Wagner. Did you still want to go through with the AfD? AleatoryPonderings (talk) 16:46, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
AleatoryPonderings, dang. Yes. I'll take care of it. Onel5969 TT me 16:49, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like the same thing happened with Cristian Ristea? AleatoryPonderings (talk) 21:37, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

AleatoryPonderings, yes, another editor just messaged me about that. Will fix it now. Thanks. Onel5969 TT me 00:29, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Essential Link: The Story of Wilfrid Israel

Hi Onel5969, you chose to remove the list of notable screenings while allowing to see them in the film's website. This is problematic, because of two reasons: 1) We want the film's Wikipedia entry to be similar in all of its three language appearances (Hebrew, English and German). 2) The film website may not always be there, or be accessible. It happened in the past that the website went down for quite some time and we didn't know it. Why should the public be refrained from knowing the most relevant places in which this film was screened when wishing to assess and/or be impressed by its importance and/or relevance? I would like to ask you to reconsider and bring back the list as it appeared originally. On further notice, I find it difficult to understand why it is so important for someone to remove/"fix"/correct somebody else's work. This wouldn't be the case if there were errors, mistakes, or intentionally fake news in it. But obviously, this is NOT the case here. Ophirbaer (talk) 09:41, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ophirbaer, well first I would ask who is the "we" you speak about. It would appear that you have a WP:COI issue with the article. Please see the rules regarding Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure. What you want has no bearing on what can be put on Wikipedia. WP is not an advertising platform. Onel5969 TT me 12:08, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Onel5969, Since you asked, I usually use "we" in order to be modest and not talk about myself as the reason for something. In this case, I used "we" also because I represent a team of VOLUNTARY 'memory agents' for someone who died 77 years back, after personally saving and being involved in the saving of many many thousands of people. His story was either never told or completely forgotten. WE came to change that. He was not a family member, nor does telling his story have ANY commercial intention. It's all about spreading a story WE believe, has universal values. That was and still is the intention of the film we created. Indeed the Wikipedia is not an advertising platform, but it is, so I still hope, the best place to get correct and immediate information for educating the general public. Just like for other feature films, people detail the cast and nobody blames them for "advertising" the actors, a list of major screenings is nothing but a quick way to allow the readers to get some impression of the quality of the film. It doesn't conflict with any of the Wikipedia principles. And if it is not clear from the above, there is absolutely nothing to do with PAID-CONTRIBUTION. I'm in this project for the last 10 years, and haven't received a dime, for the THOUSANDS of hours I've put in so far. That's why I care. I hope you understand. And I'm still waiting for you to bring back what you deleted. Ophirbaer (talk) 07:36, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ophirbaer, hi. Yes it is an interesting story, but WP does have some guidelines and policy. One of them is WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Part of the reason is to prevent exactly what you are trying to do. Lists of non-important stuff (and when I say non-important, I'm talking about to an average reader, not an ardent fan or supporter), do not belong on WP. You could return a shorter list, comprised of only those that have WP links, like UK Jewish Film Festival, as long as you provide an independent source showing the film was screened there. Simply linking to the Documentary's website is simply advertising. The same is true about the folks who were interviewed. Irrelevant to the average reader. I've also taken a look at the Wilfrid Israel article, which is woeful shape in terms of referencing. Please remember that anything which is uncited or not cited by an independent, reliable source, can be removed at any time. And once it's removed, it shouldn't be re-added with that sourcing, as per WP:BURDEN. I hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 13:27, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ZIO Article Submission Decline

Hi,

I'm writing because I would like to know why my article has been declined. The only connection that I personally have with the article is that I was on the conference where I took the photo of the creator of ZIO - it was the only photo that I have copyrights to so that's why I used it. Could you please explain the problem? I would like to make all the adjustments that it needs, but first I need to understand the problem.

Nomination of Calumet, Arizona for deletion

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Iraj Azizpour

Hi I see you’ve proposed this article for deletion. I don’t know much about martial arts but it looked reasonably sourced to me and I just wondered what prompted you to propose it? Thanks Mccapra (talk) 14:11, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mccapra, while reasonably sourced, they are all the sort of routine sports coverage one sees, nothing to show notability. The question then became whether or not he passes WP:NKICK. None of his fights meet criteria 1, and he doesn't meet criteria 3. The issue with the SN is that it doesn't clarify what constitutes a major publication. It was deprodded by the rationale, "he was ranked in the top ten by a two major publications, Combat Press and Liverkick". However neither of those magazines has a WP, so I felt they did not qualify. That being said, since it was questioned, I left it for other reviewers to take a look at, since I don't know how authorative those magazines are. If they are indeed major publications, then he does qualify, if they are not, then I don't think he does. Onel5969 TT me 14:18, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I share your view of the issue re the sources and the ambiguity. Anyway always useful to know what other reviewers are thinking. All the best Mccapra (talk) 14:22, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Mccapra, absolutely. And by the way, thank you for all the work you do on WP. Also btw, I just AfD'd an article that you had earlier redirected for not being notable, but you were reverted... keep up the good work. Onel5969 TT me 14:29, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

List of people from County Maeth

Hi there,

You recently changed List of Meath people to "List of people from County Maeth". This is the incorrect spelling for the county, Meath.

Can you please amend this.

Jacobfrid (talk) 10:00, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jacobfrid, Done. My dyslexia was showing through, thanks for catching. Onel5969 TT me 11:57, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata can't link to a Wikipedia redirect; it goes to the target instead. But in instances where the the target is different, and a Wikidata item exists, the redirect must be temporarily disabled to allow the linking. Once done, the Wikipedia redirect can be restored. (These are found in Category:Redirects connected to a Wikidata item.) Anyway, that's just background info, and I was able to link Dance studio before the revert. Senator2029 “Talk” 10:14, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Senator2029, Sorry, I didn't see that you had just made the edit, and might still be working on it. Just saw that the redirect had been blanked. Onel5969 TT me 10:17, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Richard Tucker

Was there any discussion before moving Richard Tucker to a redirect? Anything informing project opera? Nothing wrong with a disambiguation, but could the name still be the article name of one of the greatest singers ever? What if we had some Maria Callas (actor) - would we move Maria Callas? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:47, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda Arendt, hi. No, there wasn't. I didn't think it was a controversial move at the time (not a huge opera fan). But I definitely see your point. I'm slogging through the disambiguations I created and am about 2/3 done. But feel free to revert to the original article title if you feel strongly about it. Onel5969 TT me 12:52, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You invested a lot of work, but I do think he's the primary topic. If you see that also - which the sheer number of links could tell - you please revert the move. I wouldn't revert you without a discussion but wouldn't know where to start one, with this confusion of talk pages. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:56, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Gerda Arendt, this is a tough one for me, since I've just put in all that time dabbing, but I don't disagree with your thinking. Another experienced editor has already looked at the move, and didn't question it, simply changed the dab in the title from (opera) to (tenor), which is indeed better. While he most likely would be considered the primary, I don't think there's harm in leaving the dab. If you want to start a discussion on the talk page of the tenor page, I'll of course abide by the consensus, and take it upon myself to undo all the dabs. Onel5969 TT me 13:02, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
How is this: you stop dabbing, make Richard Tucker a redirect to the singer, instead to the dab page, and await discussion. I'd begin at project opera, later today. - (In the past, we had someone moving Siegfried (opera) to Siegfried (Wagner), who changed all the links and expected help with that nonsense.) - Next time you move an article with so many incoming links, please go via WP:RM, or at least consult with the project(s), - or just leave it as is. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:10, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Gerda Arendt, Sounds fair. One thing though, what I discovered was that out of the 160 or so links, about 30 of them incorrectly redirected to the tenor. Onel5969 TT me 13:15, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Gerda Arendt, and I've just changed the redirect Onel5969 TT me 13:16, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Gerda Arendt, one last note, I will definitely take your advice to heart and check on incoming links more diligently in the future. Onel5969 TT me 13:18, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for finding the wrong ones, and the change of redirect! One last note: one per ping per thread is usually enough for me ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:22, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
lol... sorry about that... I was using the new "reply" feature... I'm like a kid in a candy store with it.Onel5969 TT me 13:23, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
enjoy, lol - go to a park --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:43, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

LME Copper and LME Zinc wording issues?

Hello, you flagged some wording issues for LME Copper and LME Zinc? What are those wording issues specifically? Eric.c.zhang (talk) 01:00, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Eric.c.zhang, Could you please provide a link to the article you are talking about? Thanks. Onel5969 TT me 04:17, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The LME Copper and LME Zinc articles Eric.c.zhang (talk) 02:02, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Eric.c.zhang, okay, thanks for the links. I didn't flag either of those articles. Another editor, Kj cheetham, added tags both articles. I've pinged them on this reply, so they might respond here. If they don't you should ask them. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 03:03, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That's very weird, I got e-mails saying these articles were reviewed and they have your name on it. Eric.c.zhang (talk) 03:11, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Eric.c.zhang, I did review them. But I did not flag them for anything. Onel5969 TT me 03:14, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I tagged them as I felt they could be trimmed down to make them more encyclopedic. Things like the fine details of the date structure sounded more promotional rather than adding information people would come to Wikipedia for. I'm not great at copy editing myself though. -Kj cheetham (talk) 10:08, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined: Tamale Mirundi

Hello Onel5969. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Tamale Mirundi, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: This page was made before any of the creator's accounts were blocked, so was not made in violation of a block. Thank you. Jackmcbarn (talk) 17:15, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jackmcbarn, this article was created on 6/6/2020. I misread the history page of the puppetteer, thinking he was banned back in April, rather than in August. Will go back and correct my errors. Onel5969 TT me 17:17, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Jackmcbarn, see you've already taken care of them. Thank you. Hate making work for other editors.Onel5969 TT me 17:19, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! PSom (talk) 15:29, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks AliS0111. Onel5969 TT me 03:04, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Vince Guaraldi redirects

Hello. I reverted your edits to several Vince Guaraldi article that were arbitrarily redirected and slapped with a WP:NALBUM label. Each article is properly sourced with valid sources and reviews. Not certain why these were randomly chosen, particularly a greatest hits album. Wk3v78k23tnsa (talk) 00:39, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Because they don't pass WP:NALBUM. As was stated.Onel5969 TT me 00:45, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reverts on Changes in Sahaj Marg & Heartfulness Meditation pages

Hello Onel5969,

I noticed you have reverted my changes on Sahaj Marg and Heartfulness Meditation pages made yesterday, with comment given as "Rev cut and paste move". Can you please give more details on the reason as I did not understand exactly? If your concern was that the changes were made by cut/paste of large text, then yes actually I spent hours crafting the wiki text of the article on a text editor before, and then I cut/paste that on the page, as it's just easier to edit in a editor like Notepad++. Also these changes were discussed in the talk pages of both of these pages, in fact since almost 1.5 yrs ago. Please note the practice of Sahaj Marg is more popularly known as Heartfulness Meditation now and there are plenty of good verifiable secondary resources are available, hence the need to swap the content and redirects between the two article. I am not a frequent user so have a lot to learn, your guidance on how we should approach this changes will be much appreciated. Xiantec (talk) 18:39, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Xiantec, Hi. What you did is what is called a "cut and paste" move, which is not allowed on WP. That's a hard and fast rule, and has to do with preserving historical attribution. I thought I put a link to the policy in the edit summary, but here it is again, WP:CUTANDPASTE. What you need to do is ask to have the current redirect deleted, and then move the existing page, Sahaj Marg, to Heatfulness Meditation. I hope that helps. Onel5969 TT me 20:49, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Onel5969, Ok now I get it, thank you for your guidance. I have added the move request on Talk:Sahaj_Marg, can you help with this request please? Xiantec (talk) 18:07, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Xiantec, if the discussion you started appears to support the name change, let me know and I can take care of that for you. Onel5969 TT me 19:03, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Onel5969, Thanks for the quick revert. Yes there is support for this move from other users, as far back as since last year. Recently another user suggested the same as you did i.e., to move the page, after I made the cut/paste blunder :). There has been no opposition to it, as seen in the Talk:Sahaj_Marg page. Xiantec (talk) 19:20, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Xiantec, I understand that, but you've made a formal RFC now, so we have to let folks respond. If no one does within a week, then we can take the prior comments into account. Onel5969 TT me 20:24, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Color Classics redirects

Hello Onel5969,

I see you have redirected the pages I made to the Color Classics article. Dare I ask why you have done so? --ZanyDragon (talk) 23:06, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ZanyDragon, as I said in the edit summaries, they don't meet notability criteria.Onel5969 TT me 00:01, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How does an article meet "notability" criteria? And how could I make those articles meet said criteria? --ZanyDragon (talk) 05:18, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ZanyDragon, well, read WP:GNG in order to understand notability. There is nothing you can do to make something meet notability criteria, it either does or it doesn't. The key is are there enough sourcing from reliable independent references to show it passes WP:GNG. It is doubtful these will ever meet the criteria. Film shorts rarely do. Onel5969 TT me 11:42, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pre-election pendulum for the next Australian federal election

@Onel5969 Why did you revert my edit to the Pre-election pendulum for the next Australian federal election? In case you are not aware, the 2019 AFE has already been held, so the page in question should not redirect there. A new pendulum needs to be added for the upcoming election (on or before 2022). I presented preliminary information for that page which you unfortunately removed. If I do not hear back from you I will revert your edit as you've provided no explanation for it. --Mrodowicz (talk) 14:02, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mrodowicz, I did provide an explanation for the edit, "Restore redirect - wholly uncited". Onel5969 TT me 14:04, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Onel5969 Could you please repeat that in English? I have no time for games. --Mrodowicz (talk) 14:08, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mrodowicz, It is in English. What about wholly uncited do you not understand. It's pretty simple. Onel5969 TT me 14:15, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Onel5969 What is it exactly that you would like me to cite - that the 2019 election ended 16 months ago and therefore the redirect page no longer applies? I struggle to comprehend your logic here. --Mrodowicz (talk) 14:22, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined: Embench

Hello Onel5969. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Embench, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not unambiguously promotional. Thank you. Jackmcbarn (talk) 21:22, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cristian Ristea

Greetings. The discussion page for your nomination here was not created. --Finngall talk 23:58, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Finngall, thanks for letting me know. Will fix it now. Onel5969 TT me 00:29, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cristian Ristea

Hi, buddy,

I know it was deleted but I opened it years later after the kickboxer fought for the ISKA World Title against Florent Kaouachi. Meci de titlu mondial pentru Cristian Ristea. The article is sourced though. So since then there was this important modification which qualifies it as notable on our site. So it passes WP:NKICK today. .karellian-24 (talk) 14:43, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks! No problem. .karellian-24 (talk) 14:53, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Rubbery Figures

Hi there, I see that you took the deletion nomination template off of Rubbery Figures with "closed as Keep", but you didn't actually close it on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rubbery Figures. The article was only nominated yesterday, so I think it's possible that you closed it by mistake. Would you mind taking a look? — Toughpigs (talk) 14:50, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Toughpigs, Not sure how that happened. Was doing NPP, and simply clicked "reviewed" to remove it from the queue, since it was AfD. Have restored the template on the page. Onel5969 TT me 14:57, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, thanks. — Toughpigs (talk) 15:21, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Good Humor
Thank you for giving me good advice! Cheer VocalIndia (talk) 19:45, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you VocalIndia - keep up the good work.Onel5969 TT me 12:02, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Baruch Dov Povarsky

Hello. Regarding the article, Baruch Dov Povarsky, you deleted its contents and turned it into a redirect page, saying that there's "no demonstrated notability." However, the article sourced "Make the Torah Sweet". from Hamodia.com, which clearly demonstrated his notability. Charlie Smith FDTB (talk) 03:40, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Charlie Smith FDTB, hi. First, a single ref does not indicate notability. Second, interviews are considered primary sources, and don't count towards notability. Third, when using niche specialty sources, you'll need several of those , 3-5, which go in depth about the subject to show notability. Onel5969 TT me 12:00, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

For keeping the ship afloat the old fashioned way, I award you...

The Iron Age hand bailer of Nydam Mose
DannyS712 bot III seems be topping the NPR charts these days, but you and a couple of other editors have been nipping at its electronic heels for some time now. Just a few weeks ago we were up at >10,000 articles in the queue - it's been great to see that figure come down, largely due to your amazing contributions. Thanks, and keep it up! GirthSummit (blether) 15:00, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Girth Summit - just trying to do what I can when I can. Onel5969 TT me 16:04, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Revert of false Cryptojacking redirect

Why did you put the wrong redirect back into place (source)? --MartinThoma (talk) 15:56, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

MartinThoma, one source is not enough to show notability. Most likely is, but you need more in-depth sourcing. Onel5969 TT me 16:02, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
So you prefer to have an obviously wrong (and non-cited) redirect instead of a likely correct (and cited) article? --MartinThoma (talk) 16:05, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

COVID-19 pandemic in Solomon Islands

Hi Onel5969, I have resolved the G12 concerns in COVID-19 pandemic in Solomon Islands by removing the infringing content and deleting the revisions which contained the text. As a result, the article only has two references and is probably in WP:TOOSOON territory. I wouldn't, however, suggest draftifying at this time and it may be appropriate to redirect again until more sourcing is available. cc Vikram maingi --TheSandDoctor Talk 17:29, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

TheSandDoctor, thank you. I agree with your assessment and have redirected to COVID-19 pandemic in Oceania, for the moment. Can be easily resurrected if more info comes to light. Onel5969 TT me 17:36, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
--TheSandDoctor Talk 17:43, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Which redirect suppression criteria applied?

When you moved Talk:Pavas District to Talk:Pavas, you did so without leaving a redirect. Which one of the redirect suppression criteria do you believe applied here? I don't see any that seem to, so for now, I've created the redirect. Jackmcbarn (talk) 00:23, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jackmcbarn, Sorry about that. I think that was a round-robin swap, which I screwed up. I don't do many of them, so after I screwed up I didn't think to check to make sure the talk page had also created a redirect. Hopefully, when I do my next one, I won't screw it up, but if I do, I'll remember to check that the talk page follows. Thanks for catching it. Onel5969 TT me 01:19, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
From what I've seen, that usually ends up happening during a page swap if one of the pages has a talk page and the other doesn't, and you do the moves with the "Move associated talk page" box checked. In those cases, unchecking that box and then manually moving the talk page afterwards avoids the problem. Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:28, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Jackmcbarn, okay, thanks for that extra bit of info. Will remember it. Onel5969 TT me 12:21, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Crusading

Hi there, you reverted the removal of the redirect on Crusading and the addition of content with the comment that the info was covered in the target. Understandable, if you weren't involved in the many painful discussions on the Crusades talk page about that article's scope. Consensus is (currently) that the scope of that article is the crusades in the Holy Land c1096-1291. That means there is a requirement for an article to cover the paradigm of Crusading that begins before and continues long after that period as well as spreading across Europe, Africa and Asia. Titles were considered less important than content.

On the back of this some of the wider content needs excising from Crusades.

I hope that makes sense? Thank you. Norfolkbigfish (talk) 16:49, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Norfolkbigfish, yes it does make sense, but this seems like quite a bit of a WP:CFORK. There should be a discussion regarding this prior to creating an entire article which is basically the same as another. It would be one thing if there were other examples of Crusading, other than everything that is already contained in the existing article. Right now the discussion is on the content, but there should be a very specific RfC regarding the need to create an entire new page. Onel5969 TT me 19:10, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That discussion did take place. Consensus was there was a need for two articles:
  • One on Crusades in the Levant between 1096 and 1291;
  • One on wider Crusading that included the Northern Crusades, political crusades in Italy, wars called crusades against the Ottomans, wars against heretics, the Reconquista in Spain/Portugal, the European Wars of Religion as well as the theory and ideology.

Admittedly both articles require further work to remove the overlap but this is a start. Norfolkbigfish (talk) 21:41, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Remove Tag

Hi sir, can i know why you request to delete the articles Piriyadha Varam Vendum (TV series) and other articles. Parkijolli (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:53, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Because they were created by a banned user.Onel5969 TT me 11:58, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sir Then, like so many articles were created by a many banned user, then u tag delete for that articles also?? Parkijolli (talk)
Yes, especially when there has been so much work done by socks of the banned editor.Onel5969 TT me 12:04, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sir, how sir, if it is created by a banned user also, that articles are sourced, please remove from the tag sir. Parkijolli (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 12:07, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Parkijolli, sourcing is irrelevent. If a user is banned, they are banned.Onel5969 TT me 12:12, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sir, then like user:Arnav19 had so many sockpuppet users, and they created so many articles. Parkijolli (talk)
They have to have been created after the user was blocked. So if any of his socks created articles after he was banned in June 2018, those articles are subject to deletion.Onel5969 TT me 12:19, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
If they banned also, that article means a content know sir. Please sir Parkijolli (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 12:22, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Premios CEC

Hello Onel5969, you recently reverted the edit I made on the Premios CEC page, essentially deleting an entire article's worth of work in just one click. Your argument is that there aren't sufficient in-depth citations to support the article. I would contend that there are various online publications which could support each mention of an award win in the article, and instead of deleting the page, you could have tried to improve it by looking up a few of these, or simply added a hatnote stating that the article needed further citations. I understand where you're coming from, presumably, in your attempt to assure that Wikipedia isn't cluttered up with poorly cited articles, and I've done my share of this as well, but the Premios are the oldest film award ceremony in Spain, second in prominence only to the Goya Awards, and as such, I would say they deserve their own page. Perhaps you could also be a little more circumspect about deleting the work of others in such a wholesale way without first trying to make improvements to said work or seeking dialogue with the author of the work. Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 13:39, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Revirvlkodlaku, sorry, not my job to work on articles in which I have zero interest. The work is not gone, it is still in the history. If you want to work on article to bring it up to mainspace standards, the place to do that is in draft. If they are the oldest film awards in Spain, then they certainly meet gng, and so an article is warranted. However, uncited material may be removed at any time, and as per WP:BURDEN, should not be returned without references from reliable sources. Onel5969 TT me 13:44, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Onel5969, how were the references I provided in the article not reliable? Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 15:25, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Revirvlkodlaku, never said they weren't. Onel5969 TT me 16:20, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

my article

Please check out my article, I have been waiting for a long time — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tatowiki725 (talk • contribs) 20:09, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nino Cassanello

Hi, hope you are doing great! How does Nino Cassanello passes WP:PROF ? TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 14:28, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

TheBirdsShedTears, Hi. While NPROF #5, states "The person has held a named chair appointment or distinguished professor appointment...", in practical terms however, at AfD, if an individual achieves a full professorship at an accredited university, they survive the AfD. Onel5969 TT me 14:49, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That being said, I found this thread, which seems to make my reasoning faulty. Sometimes it is difficult to maneuver through what different groups of people want, and what actually occurs on WP. Feel free to put the tag back, or even take it to AfD if you feel strongly. And thanks for your contributions to WP.Onel5969 TT me 14:54, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Onel

What I understand from the admins is that wp:toosoon is applied to the proposed arenas, and that category might disappear. The arenas and stadiums UNDER CONSTRUCTION like SC-Stadion are ok. If a building is under construction normally it will be completed. Rostadia2012 (talk) 19:13, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Rostadia2012, but not necessarily. Onel5969 TT me 01:31, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

Hello Onel5969,

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
I was quite pleased to be notified that you had reviewed my article Yorkton Film Festival Golden Sheaf Award - Indigenous. Thank you!
Kind regards, LorriBrown (talk) 20:10, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, LorriBrown. Keep up the good work.Onel5969 TT me 01:43, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Da'Vonne Rogers

Hey, so I've noticed that you keep undoing my actions. I've also seen that you asked for more info and I have provided. It just seems to me that you don't want to keep her page because she hasn't done anything after the series. However, most houseguests with an actual page have done less than she has. Let me know what you want from me so the page can be kept. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryrymitchell (talk • contribs) 01:09, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ryrymitchell, I want her to have notability outside of the series. But she doesn't. Onel5969 TT me 01:42, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

She does, she wasn't just on Big Brother, she was on The Challenge as well, and on multiple small reality shows as well. Maybe we can give another reviewer a shot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryrymitchell (talk • contribs) 17:42, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Stephanie Cmar

Hi,

I noticed you made the page Stephanie Cmar into a redirect to Top Chef: All-Stars L.A. because "no notability outside show". I was wondering why you thought this was the case. The page clearly showed that she was a contestant on two other seasons of Top Chef (ie. not just notable for one event/one season of Top Chef). There are many sources referring to Cmar (albeit, not cited in the previous version of the article) that predate Top Chef: All-Stars L.A. by several years. Boston Magazine 2014 Article/Other Boston Magazine 2014 Article, 2016 Eater article, 2014 NYT article supporting that Cmar competed in Top Chef season 10, 2017 Mic Article supporting Cmar's notability for Top Chef season 11 calling her "one of the most screwed-over contestants in show history". I could list more, but I don't want to overwhelm you.

I appreciate that your editing is bold, but I think that in light of the existence of such sources it doesn't make sense to have Cmar redirect to Top Chef: All-Stars LA. If you agree that the redirect is possibly inappropriate in light of these sources, I would be more than happy to go back and add the sources and their information to the article Samsmachado (talk) 15:08, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Samsmachado, hi. In reviewing, I have to use my judgement, and in this case, imho, there is no notability outside of the Chef shows. But I'm definitely not infallible. Feel free to revert, and if you do, I'll leave it in the queue and let another reviewer take a shot at it. They may see it differently than. It happens all the time. But, know that my redirect was not a comment on your editing. The article was well written, well-structured, well-formatted, and well referenced. Onel5969 TT me 15:14, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Onel, need your help!

I have recently created a page Neeraj Udhwani keeping all the guidelines in mind and doing so. So I think it will take much time to be reviewed by someone, so if you could help review it, I will be very thankful! Adnanjavidkhan1 (talk) 10:02, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Adnanjavidkhan1, hi. It's in the queue. There's a huge backlog. Be patient, someone will get to it. Onel5969 TT me 12:29, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

UPTOWN! Knauer Performing Arts Center speedy deletion

I went back to revert it from published to sandbox to fix several issues and it was gone. I have spent a couple of hours now and have learned much. I put this site in sandbox over a year ago and came back and pushed publish too quickly. Can I get this back in sandbox? Or do I need to start from scratch? Kanedbender (talk) 19:14, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kanedbender, you'd have to ask the admin who actually deleted the article. It depends on why it was deleted, since you didn't provide a link, I'm not sure what the rationale was. But if it was for a copyvio, then you probably can't get it restored. WP is very strict about copyright violations. Onel5969 TT me 13:29, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

College sports

I saw you write somewhere that you're staying away from reviewing college sports bios. IMO the issue there is that the routine level of coverage for top players at the college level is basically indistinguishable from pro coverage for all but the most elite "changed the history of the sport" players. If GNG is supposed to approximate the level of coverage that makes a subject of encyclopedic, historical interest, the bar is set far too low for athletes. signed, Rosguill talk 02:38, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Rosguill, you and I are on the same wavelength. But I get tired of the incessant arguing with a small group of fanboys. I'm quickly approaching that same point regarding fictional characters, who only get coverage in industry magazines, which are then used to show GNG. But I figure there are plenty of other articles to review, right? Keep up the good work. After my "vacation", I am heartened to see that there are now more than 2 or 3 of us that are pretty active. Onel5969 TT me 12:33, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
With the sports articles, I'm inclined to live and let live and just mark them approved if they meet the guideline, encyclopedic value aside. Fictional characters I feel like I'm usually a bit stricter on, since it's easy enough to collect non-notable characters at a character list page. The one topic I've given up on (more or less preemptively) is professional wrestling, because I genuinely can't tell what a reliable source for that would be. signed, Rosguill talk 16:00, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Rosguill, I am with you on that as well, although I treat those like actor/television show articles (which they kind of are). But when they don't meet notability standards, the grief from fanboys is extreme. Onel5969 TT me 03:17, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much!

Onel5969,  Thank you very much! for reviewing the Emerging Filmmaker award page. LorriBrown (talk)

Redirect in The Karski Report

Hi Onel5969, Recently you have change the stub content of The Karski Report to a redirect to his author Claude Lanzmann arguing not WP:NFILM. I am not agree with your criteria, bc I think that the article meets the needed attributes for notability : "2. The film is historically notable, as evidenced by one or more of the following: * Publication of at least two non-trivial articles, at least five years after the film's initial release." --> There are non-trivial articles in "The Guardian" here, "The New Yorker" here, "Variety" here, "Indiwire" here, etc. The documentary was also projected at the Berlinale (Berlin film festival) , and at The Lincoln center. I know the article is just a stub now, and must grow maybe as the French equivalent fr:Le Rapport Karski (film), but the subject meets the notability criteria to have his own article. Could you please reconsider your decision and restore the stub content ? Thanks for your time to check it. Alexcalamaro (talk) 08:16, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alexcalamaro, hi. Yes, if you add those sources, it does show notability, absolutely. Onel5969 TT me 11:58, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Fine. I will add them. Thanks a lot. Alexcalamaro (talk) 17:12, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan-Mark Parsons

Hello. Thank you for making the recent edit on Ryan-Mark Parsons. There is some confusion, as I didn't want to reopen nomination for deletion discussion, as this has already taken place recently. There is a user who has created an account with the purpose to target and vandalise the page. They inserted the proposal for deletion. Do you have any advice on how to deal with this user who seems intent on targeting and vandalising the page? JPA24 (talk) 12:33, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

JPA24, well, the first thing I would say is stop putting unencyclopedic material in articles. Even in the AfD it was noted that a large portion of the article was based on tabloid coverage, which should never be used in blp's. This can get infuriating to editors who look at WP as an encyclopedia, rather than a fan magazine or fan wiki. Second, just maintain your calm, don't try to bludgeon people, just state your case. It looks like the other editor understands they can't re-open the discussion, and instead is editing it to trim the tabloid stuff. Once they have removed it, remember that as per WP:BURDEN, you can't re-add it, unless you do so with a reliable source. You brought them up at AIV (although I'm not sure that is the correct venue), so an admin will take a look. Again, be patient, and be wary of showing WP:OWNERSHIP tendencies. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 12:49, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the advice. I'm trying to improve the article everyday and I can now see the user has made changes that I think are objective and overall improves the quality of the article. If you look at the page history and edit summaries, I'm sure you can agree there seems to be some kind of targeting taking place. Of course, I see many people edit this page, but never with the same fury behind some of the edits this user is making. Plus, you can see they created an account to initially blank the page, as it was protected, it wasn't possible to do this via IP editing. Even the edit history is bizarre, they have just made many changes and now reverted the edits, just seems very suspect. JPA24 (talk) 13:03, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Hello Onel5969, what do you think https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Zvi_Sever  ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.12.180.134 (talk) 21:34, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jett Rebel article

Hi,

I saw that you took away an article about an album by Jett Rebel that I wrote. I don't really understand why this happened, since I followed all the guidelines? I'm always careful to follow the rules, and I'd like to learn how to prevent this from happening again. The image is legal and meets all requirements. Hopefully you can help me? thank you in advance!--Esther Claassen (talk) 18:35, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]


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